Very helpfull video Mr. Webb ! Im going to use the same controller for my cnc mashine . I was very confused which wire goes where before this video ! So thanks for the help !!!
😀Hellos Roger, thanks for the very good videos. I have a question for the SMC5-5-n-n controller : is it possible to connect an external switch for the feedrate? does the control have a single block function in automatic modus? thanks in advance for the help.
@@rogerwebb9600 Do you think this controller could be used on a Lathe CNC conversion. I have a mill and lathe and thought about converting them as well as building a rougher CNC.
Roger this is great I bought the rotary attachment but I'm using the onefinity cnc which uses grbl I'm wanting to switch over to be able to have rotary capability My question is sir Full set up Controller stepper driver etc What's the price
@@rogerwebb9600 hi Roger I love my machine What I'm interested is converting to my controller which is grbl to the one you showed the smc5 I'm asking how much will it cost to convert to your controller?
I am interested in doing the same with a Onefinity Journeyman. It seems the SMC5-5 could replace the Onefinity controller (which has the drivers mounted inside the controller box I suspect) and the external display. If you drop those two pieces off the price of the Onefinity then that's about the same as the SMC5-5 with the drivers and PS would cost and I think in the end you would have a more capable machine overall because of the 4th and 5th axis.
Great video Roger! Have you contacted the manufacture to get a copy of the latest firmware? I have a while back but have not received anything from them. I’m hoping that they will include being able to slave two stepper motors together. I have my Y and A axis slaved to run two motors on my Y axis and still be able to use two homing switches to square up my gantry. I’m looking forward to more videos on this stand alone SMC5-5NN controller.
Mr.Web this is great and I am very interested in adding this to my cnc to switch over, but I want to know first does this have rotary capability, like the mach 3 you can configure rotary on one of theaxis???
@@rogerwebb9600 what configuration changes will I need to do will it be like configuring the Mach Please help as far as tutorials or information on this controller you're like the top informant any help you would give I'd appreciate it sir
Hi Roger i have followed along with you i am using Nema 34 closed loop system with same controller am having some great difficulty getting it work not sure where on earth im going wrong there is no alarm so wiring appears to be correct have followed data sheet specs as supplied with driver /motors have even changed out drivers and motors to see if that may troubleshoot the issue but still no good any help would be greatly appreciated at this point have spent the whole day going over it and am stumped shall we say.. Best regards TJ
@@rogerwebb9600 On my SMC5-5-N-N i don't see a setting for a 3D probe. I do have a 3D probe too but only use it manually. I'd love to see how to use the 3d touch probe with the SMC5-5-N-N.
Are you able to point me to some online documentation that explains how it works ? Oa short video by any chance ? Every job I do has a bore that needs to be probed first to set zero
Roger great video. I really enjoy all of your videos and they have gotten me interested in CNC routers. FYI - I tried using your discount code for Carveco and it did not work. I contacted them and they are fixing the problem. I am building my first CNC router and my SMC 5-5 controller will arrive on Monday 14th. I am a little confused about the pulse per rev setting for the drivers. I know you can use higher pulse per rev settings than your stepper motor to improve accuracy but what is the limit. I am using the same driver type DM542T you have in the video and my stepper motors that I purchased are 200 pulses/per rev @ 1.8 deg per pulse. I was going to use 400 pulses/rev should I use higher pulse rate? How did you arrive at 2000 pulse/rev setting? I cannot find any sites that accurately explains this. Thanks for your help!
Hi Scott, this is an example only. Formula: step per inch = (motor steps * microstepping) / (travel at one turn of the motor in inches) if microstepping is set at 16 (1/16 on the driver) then and you are using a sprocket and chain with a pitch of .25 inches and 12 teeth on the drive sprocket = (200 * 16) / (12 * .25) = 3200 / 3 = 1066.666 steps per inch For lead screw that has a travel of .5 inches at one turn like the 5 start 1/2 inch lead screw and using 4 microsteps per step (1/4): = (200 * 4) / (.5) = 800 / .5 = 1600 steps per inch There is a facility on my Patreon pages for any further assistance Help support my channel and become a Patron www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773
Hello. I've been watching your videos on this 5-axis controller, and I'm almost buying one. I researched and found one of a 4-axis model, inferior to this one. it works with 50 khz, what is the biggest problem I will have if I use the 50 khz, and not this one with 500 khz.abs ...
Hello. Do you have a choice of letters for the 4th and 5th axis? I need it to read the letters in g Code B and C. Can I assign the letter B to the 4th axis, and the letter C to the 5th axis?
@@rogerwebb9600 All the drives I have ever used require the enable to be addressed. This might be the problem with the small silver drives. If they are not 'enabled' they won't work.
Did you reorder the same DM420Y drivers and do you expect them to work. I already have my DM420Y drivers and would hate to have to purchase something different.
@@rogerwebb9600 hello, for this, have you plugged a step motor in A and set A as slave of Y or have you plugged both in Y ? (ps : thx a lot for this video :)
I just got mine all hooked up the homing switches work. I can set the work coordinates to zero. When I jog the machine manually it moves in the correct directions.... But when I run a tap file the machine make all kinds of odd moves and does not follow the correct movements. The files I’m trying are existing tap. files that I have run many time when I ran the CNC with Mach3. Are there setting that I need to be looking at? The TAP. files were made in Fusion 360.
@@rogerwebb9600 ok I tried to find the MDI screen on the SMC5-5-N-N but couldn’t find what button to push to find that manual input screen. Also if I run the included file that comes with the controller is appears to air cut it fine, but still does not like my Mach3 TAP. Files Been working on this issue for 2 days now lol 😂
@@rogerwebb9600 yes that’s exactly what I did this morning 100 x 100mm but it still goes wacky. It appears to be a coding problem with G28 and tool offsets G43. I’m hand editing the code. The latest firmware allows G53 instead of G28 use so that should help. I’ll try the new edited code tomorrow and see if that fixes the problem. The sample cutting file that comes with the controller works great. I made a 3D curving of a Buddha and it turned out great. There appears too be some G codes that the SMC5 just doesn’t like.
Hi Glen, I have dun some looking around and found that other users are using the mach3 postprocessor output in Fusion 360 for the SMC 5 with no problems.
Very helpfull video Mr. Webb ! Im going to use the same controller for my cnc mashine . I was very confused which wire goes where before this video ! So thanks for the help !!!
You are welcome
Thank you for the upload Roger. You have saved me lots of cash!👍
Glad to help
Great Info keep on trucking!!
😀Hellos Roger, thanks for the very good videos.
I have a question for the SMC5-5-n-n controller :
is it possible to connect an external switch for the feedrate?
does the control have a single block function in automatic modus?
thanks in advance for the help.
Hello, does it have backlash compensation ? Thanks for the video.
Hi, there is a facility on my patron pages for technical help
www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773
Awesome, can SMC5-5-N-N connected to Servo motor driver?
Yes
I just order my controller today..thank you for share this video..
Hope you enjoy it!
Just ordered my smc55 Thanks
smc5-5-n-n cnc controller is also suitable for running an 8 * 4 cnc machine, thanks you
Yes, you are right
Great video and thank you for your time. Do you still like the SMC 5-5 as much as you did when you posted this video.
Yes I do!
@@rogerwebb9600 Do you think this controller could be used on a Lathe CNC conversion. I have a mill and lathe and thought about converting them as well as building a rougher CNC.
well I would like to see the build of the box if possible please.
Roger this is great
I bought the rotary attachment but I'm using the onefinity cnc which uses grbl
I'm wanting to switch over to be able to have rotary capability
My question is sir
Full set up
Controller stepper driver etc
What's the price
Hi, the MIDI CNC router was about $1000 to build. The MAXI CNC router was about $4300 all up to build.
@@rogerwebb9600 hi Roger
I love my machine
What I'm interested is converting to my controller which is grbl to the one you showed the smc5 I'm asking how much will it cost to convert to your controller?
OK, you would need the SMC5 $500, a driver for each stepper motor $70 to $100, and a power supply about $50+
Ty sir
This will run rotary add true rotary line using the wrap in aspire?
I am interested in doing the same with a Onefinity Journeyman. It seems the SMC5-5 could replace the Onefinity controller (which has the drivers mounted inside the controller box I suspect) and the external display. If you drop those two pieces off the price of the Onefinity then that's about the same as the SMC5-5 with the drivers and PS would cost and I think in the end you would have a more capable machine overall because of the 4th and 5th axis.
Thanks a lot for your demonstration TEACHER
You are very welcome
Great video Roger!
Have you contacted the manufacture to get a copy of the latest firmware? I have a while back but have not received anything from them.
I’m hoping that they will include being able to slave two stepper motors together. I have my Y and A axis slaved to run two motors on my Y axis and still be able to use two homing switches to square up my gantry.
I’m looking forward to more videos on this stand alone SMC5-5NN controller.
Hello, it seems a nice solution. Do you know what is the comptaibility with G code post processors generators ?
See this video
ruclips.net/video/y9mkWX17t-k/видео.html
can that controller be loaded with complex programs from a cad cam system?
Yes
Why did you choose this over the DDCV expert? The expert seems more modern and better value for the money.
Steppers are controlled by Pulse and Direction..(PUL + DIR).
Mr.Web this is great and I am very interested in adding this to my cnc to switch over, but I want to know first does this have rotary capability, like the mach 3 you can configure rotary on one of theaxis???
Hi, yes this is a 5 axis controller X,Y,Z,A and B, so yes it will run the A rotary axis.
@@rogerwebb9600 what configuration changes will I need to do will it be like configuring the Mach
Please help
as far as tutorials or information on this controller you're like the top informant any help you would give I'd appreciate it sir
Hi Roger i have followed along with you i am using Nema 34 closed loop system with same controller am having some great difficulty getting it work not sure where on earth im going wrong there is no alarm so wiring appears to be correct have followed data sheet specs as supplied with driver /motors have even changed out drivers and motors to see if that may troubleshoot the issue but still no good any help would be greatly appreciated at this point have spent the whole day going over it and am stumped shall we say.. Best regards TJ
just found info on pulse frequency controller 500 kHz per axis and driver is 0-200 kHz is that potentially my problem? cheers TJ
Yay..... worked it out😊😊 was the enable just needed a signal i had put a positive and negative on 😂👍 i think i had been stairing at for too long.. 👍
Hello, does touch probe xyz function exist on this controller ? Thank you for your vidéo.
Yes it does
@@rogerwebb9600 On my SMC5-5-N-N i don't see a setting for a 3D probe. I do have a 3D probe too but only use it manually. I'd love to see how to use the 3d touch probe with the SMC5-5-N-N.
Well done! Thanks so much!
You're very welcome!
Well done, Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Can you advise if this has a automatic XY bore probe function please ? I want to buy one as my DSP A11 doesn’t have it
Yes
Are you able to point me to some online documentation that explains how it works ? Oa short video by any chance ? Every job I do has a bore that needs to be probed first to set zero
Hello.
Is there support for RTCP function?
No support at all for anything only what I video for RUclips
Спасибо за информацию@@rogerwebb9600
The Chinese from Ali Express answer the same question, which supports. 支持RTCP功能-вот так ответили@@rogerwebb9600
hello sir , can I use the outpins to oprate 24 voltage DC relays ?
No, the output is 5 volt and 12v to 24v input to run the SMC5
@@rogerwebb9600 so I can use the output to run 24 volt relay if I use 24 volt DC as a Vin?
How do you get a post processor for G Codes? Does it have anti backlash settings? Does it read in inches?
All information and assistance for this CNC build is available on my Patreon pages
www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773
Where Did you get your 12v from. From your original parts list the power supply you indicated was for 24v.
Sorry, 12v for the controller
An old HP printer
Can you slave an Axis to a master one if one axis has 2 motors ?
Hi, there is a facility on my patron pages for technical help
www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773
Roger great video. I really enjoy all of your videos and they have gotten me interested in CNC routers. FYI - I tried using your discount code for Carveco and it did not work. I contacted them and they are fixing the problem. I am building my first CNC router and my SMC 5-5 controller will arrive on Monday 14th. I am a little confused about the pulse per rev setting for the drivers. I know you can use higher pulse per rev settings than your stepper motor to improve accuracy but what is the limit. I am using the same driver type DM542T you have in the video and my stepper motors that I purchased are 200 pulses/per rev @ 1.8 deg per pulse. I was going to use 400 pulses/rev should I use higher pulse rate? How did you arrive at 2000 pulse/rev setting? I cannot find any sites that accurately explains this. Thanks for your help!
Hi Scott, this is an example only.
Formula:
step per inch = (motor steps * microstepping) / (travel at one turn of the motor in inches)
if microstepping is set at 16 (1/16 on the driver) then and you are using a sprocket and chain with a pitch of .25 inches and 12 teeth on the drive sprocket
= (200 * 16) / (12 * .25)
= 3200 / 3
= 1066.666 steps per inch
For lead screw that has a travel of .5 inches at one turn like the 5 start 1/2 inch lead screw and using 4 microsteps per step (1/4):
= (200 * 4) / (.5)
= 800 / .5
= 1600 steps per inch
There is a facility on my Patreon pages for any further assistance
Help support my channel and become a Patron
www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773
Hello. I've been watching your videos on this 5-axis controller, and I'm almost buying one. I researched and found one of a 4-axis model, inferior to this one. it works with 50 khz, what is the biggest problem I will have if I use the 50 khz, and not this one with 500 khz.abs ...
I would. go for the 5 axis controller as it will do 3D work
Nice work you sir
Thanks
Will we be able to control the spindle speed with this controller instead of the rheostat that came with the power supply.
I think so, I will be testing this out myself
Hello. Do you have a choice of letters for the 4th and 5th axis? I need it to read the letters in g Code B and C. Can I assign the letter B to the 4th axis, and the letter C to the 5th axis?
they are named A B
O 5 volts alimenta os 4 drivers na mesma saida??
Yes!!
“Pul” is actually a shortened version of the word “Pulse”
i guess it's kind of randomly asking but do anybody know of a good site to stream newly released tv shows online?
@Cassius Juan I would suggest flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@Byron Hugo definitely, been using FlixZone for since march myself :)
@Byron Hugo Thank you, I signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it !
@Cassius Juan happy to help :D
How are the stepper drives working without any connection to the Enable?
?!?
@@rogerwebb9600 All the drives I have ever used require the enable to be addressed. This might be the problem with the small silver drives. If they are not 'enabled' they won't work.
Hi. Somebody know if is it possible to slave two stepper motors together, meaning Y and A axis slaved to run two different motors on Y axis ?
Yes! YL and YR on the same outlet
@@rogerwebb9600 Thanks Roger
Did you reorder the same DM420Y drivers and do you expect them to work. I already have my DM420Y drivers and would hate to have to purchase something different.
Hi Paul, no I ordered 4x TB6600 Stepper Motor Driver Controllers from Australia as it would take 6 week to come from China
Can this controller be be wired with two stepper motors slaved together (Y Axis)?
Yes it can, and I did ;-))
@@rogerwebb9600 hello, for this, have you plugged a step motor in A and set A as slave of Y or have you plugged both in Y ? (ps : thx a lot for this video :)
@@rogerwebb9600 please, can you post a wiring diagram for this, or give some information how to do that because i'm stuck...
I just got mine all hooked up the homing switches work. I can set the work coordinates to zero. When I jog the machine manually it moves in the correct directions.... But when I run a tap file the machine make all kinds of odd moves and does not follow the correct movements. The files I’m trying are existing tap. files that I have run many time when I ran the CNC with Mach3. Are there setting that I need to be looking at? The TAP. files were made in Fusion 360.
Hi, go into the MDI screen and input X50 Y50 X-50 Y-50 and air cut and see what it will do
@@rogerwebb9600 ok I tried to find the MDI screen on the SMC5-5-N-N but couldn’t find what button to push to find that manual input screen.
Also if I run the included file that comes with the controller is appears to air cut it fine, but still does not like my Mach3 TAP. Files
Been working on this issue for 2 days now lol 😂
Hi, try a 50mm square in Fusion 360
@@rogerwebb9600 yes that’s exactly what I did this morning 100 x 100mm but it still goes wacky. It appears to be a coding problem with G28 and tool offsets G43. I’m hand editing the code. The latest firmware allows G53 instead of G28 use so that should help. I’ll try the new edited code tomorrow and see if that fixes the problem. The sample cutting file that comes with the controller works great. I made a 3D curving of a Buddha and it turned out great. There appears too be some G codes that the SMC5 just doesn’t like.
Hi Glen, I have dun some looking around and found that other users are using the mach3 postprocessor output in Fusion 360 for the SMC 5 with no problems.
it supports automatic tool change?
Yes!!
Hello! which post processor for it?
Standard G-code mm tap
I use Fusion 360 for cad,cam and post process. I Set up Fusion for TAP. Files. I tell Fusion to make a file for Mach3 for this controller.