Did I Make a Mistake Buying the H90?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- This is Part 5 of my in-depth tutorial on the Eventide H90 multi-FX pedal. This video shows you how to quickly get the most out of your H90 and avoid buyer's remorse.
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00:00 Intro
01:19 User Lists
03:42 Routing
04:47 Tempo Sync
05:22 Banks
06:47 Quick Knobs
08:05 Lights
09:14 Snapshots
10:49 Outro
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Brilliant video and incredibly timely. First, THANK YOU for the approach. I just spent a lot of time this weekend with Eventide's three H90 videos. They are long, comprehensive, and poorly designed in an instructional sense. I understood them, but I just got more disenchanted with the unit as the videos unfolded. (And yes, the terminology is quite obtuse and unnecessarily so.) Second, I found this was the perfect antidote. It helped to clarify and provide context for the information dump that those videos were. Third, based on this alone, I'm subscribing to your channel and I'm going to check out your entire H90 series. I wish you much success as you build your channel!
Oh wow! Thanks for such a great comment. As a new “RUclipsr” it’s great to get some feedback that I’m on the right lines. I’m still trying to improve with each video.
Thank you for making this video. I was thinking of buying one but it looked like a lot of work. This video clears up a lot of the confusion in a concise way.
Glad I could help!
I love mine more than ever now… once I took the time to really dive deep into the menus and adjustmemts… it’s next level.. and now the the Ipad bluetooth control?!? Game changer!!! Not selling and it is awesome with synths too
Agreed! Note I have a video on the Bluetooth app dropping on my channel 6pm today (UK time).
I'm still catching up on kit I bought last year. I totally get your video.
The ability to buy kit quite often overpowers the ability (and time!) to learn it!
I too agree with your take on terminology!
The H90 is fantastic. It’s actually really simple
to use. 😂
One thing I noticed is to make a lot of the presets sound half decent is to sort the dry wet balance.
Totally agree. Temptation is to have far too much wet balance. The art of subtlety has been lost…
Let's just count money. There are few types of fx you need. 1 Drive 2 Modulations 3 Delays 4 Reverbs and 5 (Maybe you don't need it) Harmonic fx. H90 Has ALL of them and more. We can erase drive from th list we all know why. So we have four types. Three of them we all need. There's a few brands who make multifx pedals with one type of fx. For example, Strymon. If you go this way you have to buy Mobius, Timeline and Bigsky. Each of them about $600. $1800 total (I don't count shipping and I take prices couple years after release). But how many of them you need at once? Mostly 2. So H90 has two. And it costs $900. Twice cheaper than a bunch of Strymon. And that is not all. There are some algorithms that has two fx in one in fact. For example TimeSpace (Delay+Reverb), Just simple delay and simple reverb, that is everything we often; or some of harmonic algorithms have delay in itself. And you can still add something more, any modulation or harmonizer, whatever, to second preset of the program. And this is still not all. H90 can do muuuuuch more FX than a Strymon "holy trinity", Strymon don't have none of harmonic fx and even if they does, Eventide do it BEST. They are still producing new algorithms that are free to update your H90. PolySynth is a game changer in some terms. Yes you can buy Merit Enzo, but then add +500$ to the first 1800$ and you have four pedals instead of one. And yes, there are something like TC Plethora. This is good if simple drive/mod/delay/reverb is enough for you. No need to say that all brands mentioned here are making HI-END STUNNING sound. So there are two ways. 1. Cheap. You buy Plethora or some cheap processor for all FX and 2. Relatively expensive - One H90 if you want super flexibility, fancy, modern, experimental sounds for AAAANY case, if you want to sound unusual an fantastic some times, not only excellent like everybody. The third way of buying dedicated pedals for each type of fx have gone IMHO. It still works but time goes and some really interesting products are appearing, why not to use them?
Nice perspective. I have QC and strymon ( a nice problem to have ) i tend to venture for pedals to QC
Strymon for Ambience and QC for drives. Im keen to try this out. Thanks for the insight
Yes 🙌 NIKO‼️‼️‼️🙏🙏🙏✅✅✅👌👌👌 thank you for clarifying this in detail because i saw the title of this YT clip and was bit worried - but then again it’s a matter of choice and preference…
I’m a KeyBoardist, Vocalist and producer with my own home studio in a serious upgrade mode so been just buying new gear and i researched this device extensively watched tons of videos and decided on the EVENTIDE … I’m old school music guy in my 60’s and would most likely just use the presets and i wanted something i can just sort of patch into my PRESONUS STUDIOLIVE SX2 - 32 channel mixer and my patchbays and this thing seems to fit in nicely … no regrets but when I see titles like this video here i get a Bit nervous thinking i made a mistake until i read your comments … THANK YOU 🙏 The Real Sam Swing from the 1980’s / 1990’s NYC MUSIC SCENE LOL
The problem with all of these shock and awe effects devices is that while they are full of stunning sonic possibilities, most of them aren't terribly useful or they will quickly begin sounding gimmicky. The most sophisticated delay I ever bought is like this - and so I spent countless late nights tweaking sounds and hitting buttons, with the impact of diminishing time better spent writing songs or playing. Of course, all of this comes to one much more painfully when you consider how much a a high-end unit costs. The older I get, the less patience I have in learning some manufacturers piece of gear that is confusing and massively non-intuitive. The reality is, one could do almost anything with 4 to 5 versatile pedals encompassing Reverb / delay / ambient, fuzz / overdrive/ boost, compression, chorus / vibrato. The rest is mostly novelty. I will say I'm excited about the Electroharmonix pedals that emulate other instruments - pure alchemy! Perhaps, in another 10 years, the multi-effects and amp modelers will become must better sounding and logical to manipulate.
I completely understand where you're coming from. Sometimes, simplicity is key when it comes to gear. It's all about finding what works best for you and your sound.
If you got one and want to do the new update, update the control software before the firmware. (the new effect is great fun)
Awesome. Can't wait to try the new effect. Thanks
I have similar problems last year I bought 3 complex bits of kit in quick succession, and been bouncing between them forgetting what I’ve learnt. But there’s worse problems to have 🤔
Yeah it’s a fun problem to have tbh.
@@JonKayeLearning yep but theres definitely something to be said for mastering on bit of kit before moving onto the next .
I imagine the h90's routing possibilities are a bit of a headscratcher!
Did you keep it in the end?
No. I sold it actually. I had fun playing with it but I think I found that I prefer pedals (or synths) that are just really good at one thing rather than able to do 100 different patches.
@@JonKayeLearning i agree im somewhat similar, i have the eventide space which i love but often get lost in, in a good way, so not 100% sure i need or gel with the h90.
Hearts set on the meris lvx really quite deep but apparently very intuitive . Primarily a delay but with a few tricks up its sleeves.
Thanks for the chat its helped me clarify my decision 👍🏼
Hola. Saludos desde Argentina!
crees que podria reemplazar mis pedales Strymon mobius, timeline y bigsky por el H90?
Yes!
By far the best tutorial so far for the H90. Thank you
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback. And glad you enjoyed it.
But can it do Boss RV-5 Modulate sounds?
i just got the hx effects cause it looked a lot simpler. but this did make me hungry. do you like to cook?
If it makes any difference at all, I’ve since sold my H90…
GREAT video! I don't even have an H90 but its nice to see how it varies to the H9. The parameter editing seems like a missed chance, on the H9 going into advanced mode lets you quickly cycle all the parameters in an algorithm - all. I don't know why they didn't let you cycle parameters in sets of 3 on the H90 for each algorithm. Maybe its an additional mode? Does the hotswitch function turn off the bank mode? Would have been cool if both could work together, bank mode and hold a switch to cycle through snapshots. Bugs me when multieffects don't allow this as it makes for a massively powerful format (i.e. Alexander Pedals Neo Series). I think the whole market needs to catch up to Alexander. In an example, on the Sky 5000 you have 4 presets, tap, ramp/alt modes and on/off (at least) across 2 switches. That's 4 presets each with tap and alternate modes and only 2 switches, it drives me nuts when the bigger companies don't follow this kind of logic in switch management (Boss, Eventide, etc.). The same thing on a Boss 500 pedal would need 4 banks of 3 switches where each bank is 2 modes with tap and requiring pressing 2 switches to go up and down. Imagine if you could hold a preset switch to enter an alternate mode or access a secondary function - it would double its power. Its all just software limits, drives me nuts!
I’ll definitely check out the Alexander pedals. They sound awesome. Thanks for the info.
I'm a bass player, I own the boss gt6b. I bought it twenty years ago. I felt the same way about it for years, how I wish there were RUclips videos of people going through how to write patches. I was so frustrated. So much so that I will probably never buy a multi like that again. I did eventually get comfortable with it but I do know exactly what you mean! (I'm a dinosaur-get off my lawn!)
Yeah I agree. I am hoping to help with others’ frustration. My H90 series of videos should get new owners over the hump of beginner to proficient as quickly as possible.
That’s why it is important to do your research before you buy something. What do I want it for? Ease of use? Quality of the effects? Does a Ferrari owner regret buying his car because he cannot ride around 350 kms per hour? It ultimately depends on yourself. So if it is a waste of money, you shouldn’t have bought it. I have had mine for a month now. Sounds amazing processing synths and voice also. Haven’t used it, but because I do not have time. Do I regret it? No, it is my decision.
Yeah I don’t actually think it is a waste of money (which is the whole point of the video!). You just need to take the time to get to know it. You should watch my whole series on the H90. Will really help you get to know it quickly. Especially if you’re pressed for time.
It’s kinda sad seeing ppl compare these to Ferraris
@@LochNessAnthony I totally agree. Who would want a car that you cannot use to it's full potential?
@@doubleohdutch2108 People are really like, “I bought a $700 guitar pedal. It’s not useless it’s a Ferrari. 😎” about their multi-effects.
@@doubleohdutch2108 I'd like to. To drive around Compton to show off lol
Why bother menu diving? Just get H90 Control. I wish more pedal manufactures created control software for the efx units.
Totally agree. Of course the Control app wasn’t out when I made this video. I’ve done a quick tutorial on the app here:
ruclips.net/video/QzuYCYbnGCo/видео.html
Returned mine. Horrible interface and too confusing. Went back to a tried and true time factor and couldn't be happier
Well I certainly understand your reaction! It takes time to get the hang of it and the H90 is much more confusing than it needs to be. I’ve just started using the mac app with it and this makes it much quicker to set up and organise stuff. I’m going to do a video on it next week.
Dude you have to learn how to use it! Nothing good comes right away. This is a powerful box that allows sounds that have never been used before. Good things take time
Things Junk. Strymon all the way!
The H90 is absolutely not too complicated. If you can navigate a computer interface, you’re more than equipped to master the h90. I adore mine and the sounds I get from it are so inspiring.