Intel Core i9-11900K Review, The Worst Flagship Intel CPU... Maybe Ever!

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    Intel Core i9-11900K, The Worst Flagship Intel CPU... Maybe Ever!
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  • @ravignir
    @ravignir 3 года назад +2612

    Everyone is roasting this CPU, but no one thought of roasting on this CPU.

    • @1nfiniteloop
      @1nfiniteloop 3 года назад +46

      I c wot u did there... 😃

    • @Knee-Lew
      @Knee-Lew 3 года назад +44

      The CPU is roasted... figuratively and literally.

    • @Superiorer
      @Superiorer 3 года назад +62

      Kfc wanted to roast chicken with an intel based pc/oven.

    • @sammyfromsydney
      @sammyfromsydney 3 года назад +48

      11900 Kebab

    • @Premosilva
      @Premosilva 3 года назад +5

      Pun intended 😂😂😂😂

  • @mahmutpekkara
    @mahmutpekkara 3 года назад +956

    If you ever feel useless, remember 11900k exists..

    • @SanjeevKumar-ik7xs
      @SanjeevKumar-ik7xs 3 года назад +6

      😂👍

    • @Nunya58294
      @Nunya58294 3 года назад +4

      🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏

    • @angelvids6024
      @angelvids6024 3 года назад +18

      That made me feel much better about myself today :D

    • @charizard6969
      @charizard6969 3 года назад +8

      I'm dead😂😂 but it totally worked haha my day is a little better now

    • @suchti9049
      @suchti9049 3 года назад +1

      This makes everything even worse 3 seconds later because then you'll remember that this thing is still better known then u and will generate more money than you will in your whole life......

  • @VerdyBerdy
    @VerdyBerdy 3 года назад +899

    Everyone: "the 5800x is bad value for price" The 11900k: "hold my msrp"

    • @Taurus_Play
      @Taurus_Play 3 года назад +9

      100-150 euro cheaper ... oh or this logic dont count to other way ?

    • @Narcostic
      @Narcostic 3 года назад +44

      @@Taurus_Play ??????

    • @Speedey64
      @Speedey64 3 года назад +90

      @@Taurus_Play I think you misunderstood the joke.. He was saying that the 5800x is bad value compared to 5600 and 5900. But compard to the 11900K it seems reasonable again!

    • @neiliewheeliebin
      @neiliewheeliebin 3 года назад +4

      @@Speedey64 Not long ago the 5800x was the same price as the 5600x here.....

    • @AntonChigurh-
      @AntonChigurh- 3 года назад +4

      @@neiliewheeliebin You can easily get a 5800X for MSRP prices in Europe now.

  • @Wak3UpAm3r1ca
    @Wak3UpAm3r1ca 3 года назад +97

    Oh boy. That guy from twitter who got mad at GN for the "Waste of Sand" title must be losing his mind 🤣

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 3 года назад

      Wak3UpAm3r1ca That's OK GN is being boycotted as well.

    • @tuank624
      @tuank624 4 месяца назад

      @@wysetech2000for what?

  • @ia3630
    @ia3630 3 года назад +978

    "It's better than going backwards" We lived to see Intel's Bulldozer 🤣

    • @arned432
      @arned432 3 года назад +12

      Well, 10th gen Core was like !!!mORe CoREs!!!. And still it's not work. Buldozer has problems because of shit cashe and shity north brige.

    • @XD-cr3du
      @XD-cr3du 3 года назад +66

      @@arned432 Your English it's not work.

    • @conorf8091
      @conorf8091 3 года назад +23

      @@XD-cr3du it’s fine, jog on

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices 3 года назад +23

      We really have, it even has the qualifications of being worse than the previous generation at certain tasks. It’s also somewhat of a repeat of the Pentium 4.

    • @Dimondminer11
      @Dimondminer11 3 года назад +1

      Such a shame tbh

  • @MacA60230
    @MacA60230 3 года назад +923

    Intel really took the whole "the roles are reversed" thing at heart, releasing a new generation worse than the previous one is straight from the AMD bulldozer book

    • @sickbastard82
      @sickbastard82 3 года назад +90

      It's event worse than buldozer times. The FX8350 could beat the competition at least in multicore tasks /games. Especially in newer games which could use more than only 4 threads

    • @Superiorer
      @Superiorer 3 года назад +88

      The 11900k has no place in any pc, but the lower end parts are pretty good actually. The 11600k is keeping up with the 5600x in productivity at a lower price. Intel should have skipped the i9 in this line up, now it will be a shit ton of negative publicity and money spend on a stupid product.

    • @XD-cr3du
      @XD-cr3du 3 года назад +15

      Not really, the whole line up of bulldozer was dogshit. At least the 11600k seems like good value. The 11900k is worse than a dogturd though.

    • @arcadeuk
      @arcadeuk 3 года назад +62

      @METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS It's not worse, other that the wasteful single generation motherboard you need to buy to run it, the cost, the large heatsink requirement (not included) and the absolutely ridiculous power draw under full load. Oh wait, it's worse

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 3 года назад +64

      bUt iT's FasTeR iN tHeSe tOtAllY nOt chERrY pIckEd nIcHE BeNChMArKs vS pReVIoUS gEn!
      Also the horror of Intel marketing showing 11900K being faster than 10900K in games... while later disclosing 10900K was power locked at PL1 125W and 11900K was almost power unocked at PL2 250W... Freaking disgusting.

  • @BKnight_
    @BKnight_ 3 года назад +161

    Wait, guys, April Fools is tomorrow. We can't be discussing this joke of a processor a day early.

  • @hhectorlector
    @hhectorlector 3 года назад +412

    Intel fanboys: he didn’t even talk about the new integrated graphics ..... 😔

    • @I_killed_that_beard_guy
      @I_killed_that_beard_guy 3 года назад +2

      Are iris graphics good?

    • @QuixoticPenguin
      @QuixoticPenguin 3 года назад +79

      @@I_killed_that_beard_guy No.

    • @Unknown-tx1gj
      @Unknown-tx1gj 3 года назад +11

      if the 11100f had Iris XE igpu graphics it would have probably been godlike plus the b560 ram oc thing then it would beat AMD's carelessness to the Consumer APU Market

    • @Disnamesucksass
      @Disnamesucksass 3 года назад +26

      When they talk about the new graphics but do so only to roast intel for not providing drivers to consumers at release lmao

    • @hi9580
      @hi9580 3 года назад +1

      @@QuixoticPenguin but they got 5K 60Hz support

  • @mkcristobal
    @mkcristobal 3 года назад +415

    Intel can't even complain at these reviews, they know perfectly well what they have done, and there's no way they didn't see the shitstorm coming...

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices 3 года назад +22

      They’ve had this coming for years, this is what resting on your laurels gets you.

    • @earthbound8809
      @earthbound8809 3 года назад +14

      @@EvilTurkeySlices Good thing AMD has been working with YANNI and not resting on the laurels xD

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices 3 года назад +3

      @@earthbound8809 i both love and hate this comment.

    • @justindiffenderfer7484
      @justindiffenderfer7484 3 года назад +7

      They did see this coming. It's why they've been telling us to stop looking at benchmarks.

    • @mkcristobal
      @mkcristobal 3 года назад +4

      @@justindiffenderfer7484 Yeah, right 😁 "Stop looking at benchmarks, just trust us: higher number = better"

  • @cao7064
    @cao7064 3 года назад +192

    So i9 11900K is Intel‘s "Flagshit" in 2021...And I9 10900K is the true flagship from Intel..

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 3 года назад +19

      I have my criticism of 10900K (or "10th gen" in general)... but at least it arguably actually deserved the title of Intel flagship.
      Now this 11th thingy... this is just shit. Flagshit is spot on.

    • @jayd6916
      @jayd6916 3 года назад +5

      Got a 10700k for $269

    • @pyramidschemer4083
      @pyramidschemer4083 3 года назад +1

      Man 10th gen was way better than whatever this is. There were some actually good processors which were decent value albeit running hot.

    • @mmeatheaddd
      @mmeatheaddd 3 года назад +4

      i got a i9 10900k last month to replace my 12 year old i7 2600 :) only thing i seen that beats a i9 10900k in gaming is the new amd 9 and were talking about only a few fps in SOME games not all!

    • @cao7064
      @cao7064 3 года назад +2

      @@mmeatheaddd 10700k is enough for all gaming for sure, Ryzen 9 is a much much better CPU for workloads than i9.

  • @M365ITTuts
    @M365ITTuts 3 года назад +52

    It's not ever "AMD murdered Intel" anymore. It's like Intel engineers were pressured so much they decided to play an internal joke on the company before handing in their resignations and joining AMD. The only hope this "radiator compatible" cpu will sell is if it's priced less than $300 or maybe offered at i5 prices.

    • @Klasus357
      @Klasus357 3 года назад

      Haha that would make sense now!

    • @ultranerdprime7468
      @ultranerdprime7468 3 года назад +4

      Sorry to inform you that it sold, and indeed sold well enough that on Amazon it's currently only available from third-party listings starting at $838. Welcome to the bold new market, where the rules are made up and the value doesn't matter... sigh.

  • @Tophu5301
    @Tophu5301 3 года назад +142

    “THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.”
    “Why would a Wookie... An eight foot tall Wookie, live on a planet with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks?”

    • @robertthompson7242
      @robertthompson7242 3 года назад +1

      They are good backscratchers!

    • @averagerobert8211
      @averagerobert8211 3 года назад

      Bc alpha

    • @alphadragongamingFTW
      @alphadragongamingFTW 3 года назад

      *Wookiee :P There, fixed it for ya. Just messin with ya. Even among Star Wars enthusiasts it is misspelled.

    • @Tophu5301
      @Tophu5301 3 года назад +1

      @@alphadragongamingFTW yeah sorry I’m actually more of a Star Trek fan. Star Wars is cool too though.

    • @xariotatriox6284
      @xariotatriox6284 3 года назад +1

      @@averagerobert8211 Burning Crusade Alpha? Bruh it's in Beta already!

  • @wayanoregano6282
    @wayanoregano6282 3 года назад +859

    Here again, the new Bulldozer Lake Architecture 😂

    • @vickyvishalful
      @vickyvishalful 3 года назад +46

      How the turntables

    • @Zellonous
      @Zellonous 3 года назад +45

      Except bulldozer is still relevant 8-9 years later. Somehow taking less energy than this new Intel lol.

    • @monkeslayer-km5ho
      @monkeslayer-km5ho 3 года назад +6

      @@Zellonous actually no bcs bulldozer is 32nm

    • @monkeslayer-km5ho
      @monkeslayer-km5ho 3 года назад +5

      @@Zellonous and the single core is far more worse

    • @Zellonous
      @Zellonous 3 года назад +37

      @@monkeslayer-km5ho you can still play games with it that were released last year. That makes it relevant. Nm means nothing (for relevancy) . Popular xeons have high nm too and look at the performance you can get with those old bastards. Multithread > single thread. Clock speed OC records are still held by fx chips so even on the enthusiast level they're still relevant. Now I just wish I could convince everyone they're super awful so I can buy them cheaper.

  • @wisdoom9153
    @wisdoom9153 3 года назад +424

    Oh god, both Steve(s) are roasting this cpu.😅
    I want it well done.

    • @gamingunboxed5130
      @gamingunboxed5130 3 года назад +19

      Put an Intel box cooler on it and you'll get boot leather.

    • @uglyduckling81
      @uglyduckling81 3 года назад +6

      Hardware Shillucks are almost certainly singing praises if your more interested in a positive look at this turd sandwich.

    • @NicolaiSyvertsen
      @NicolaiSyvertsen 3 года назад +17

      @@uglyduckling81 Hardware Canucks are just photography enthusiasts that happen to shoot videos about PC hardware now and then. They know way more about how to set their cameras to the best settings than PC hardware.

    • @KleinMeme
      @KleinMeme 3 года назад +1

      @@uglyduckling81 Yah, PCGH reviewed them as positive and even faster then any Ryzen. Lol
      It's a bit doubtful if these are even honest reviews.

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 3 года назад +2

      Wouldn’t “blue” be more appropriate? Seeing as this chip is so woefully underdone?

  • @Gnomleif
    @Gnomleif 3 года назад +23

    Steve burned the 11900k so hard that Australian news just reported an unexpected heat wave.

    • @rvh1702
      @rvh1702 2 года назад

      BOOOMM!! (Slow clapping)

  • @roninvampire05
    @roninvampire05 3 года назад +21

    I really love how the mellow intro music is a stark contrast to the brutal murder that followed.

  • @3800S1
    @3800S1 3 года назад +413

    It's not even DOA, it's dead on the drawing board but somehow went through with it anyway.
    It's like Tejas back in the day but they didn't cancel it this time.

    • @uglyduckling81
      @uglyduckling81 3 года назад +29

      It's only dead because of it's price. It's performance is fine. It chews power like an Nvidia GPU. It just needs to be half it's current price to make sense.

    • @azurai3934
      @azurai3934 3 года назад +13

      @@uglyduckling81 that would put it below the 11700K no way Intel would do that

    • @jatxemo6156
      @jatxemo6156 3 года назад +3

      Is that plane done yet?

    • @shaynegadsden
      @shaynegadsden 3 года назад +27

      @@azurai3934 it should be the 11700k and they shouldnt have offered an i9

    • @jannegrey593
      @jannegrey593 3 года назад +1

      @@jatxemo6156 Tejas? First combat iteration is done. It's not a great plane yet, but that isn't the point. Tejas is preparing India's industry to be able to make current and maybe next generations planes on their own - they succeeded more than they failed in this. But Intel is basically like saying Tejas is equal, no - better than newest F-16. No. If this was engineering sample to test something - then it would be a viable comparison.

  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech 3 года назад +1372

    lmao@thumbnail

    • @gamingunboxed5130
      @gamingunboxed5130 3 года назад +43

      Hey at least I didn't use Tim's first version :D

    • @Lockstar64
      @Lockstar64 3 года назад +5

      @@gamingunboxed5130 I dread to think xD

    • @marlbartony1621
      @marlbartony1621 3 года назад +7

      💩💩💩💩 11900K
      🤡🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩💩 Intel

    • @lordstevewilson1331
      @lordstevewilson1331 3 года назад +2

      Yeah that thumbnail is EPIC.

    • @theofficialpollo
      @theofficialpollo 3 года назад +2

      Hello Jarred, just watched a video of yours.

  • @blvk3
    @blvk3 3 года назад +27

    I've almost mistaken this video for review of 5900x by just looking at the charts

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd 3 года назад +80

    Here comes the “performance doesn’t matter” slides and claiming that they have the better “platform”.

    • @QuixoticPenguin
      @QuixoticPenguin 3 года назад +4

      At this point it's not even a better platform. Even apple dropped them after like 20 years of partnership

    • @bidomo
      @bidomo 3 года назад +1

      @@QuixoticPenguin 15 to be more accurate

    • @airshaped
      @airshaped 3 года назад +4

      have fun with your 400W power consumption

    • @vogonp4287
      @vogonp4287 3 года назад

      @@airshaped My Opteron 6276 uses less power.

  • @snozzmcberry2366
    @snozzmcberry2366 3 года назад +108

    This is hilarious. I don't know if I've ever seen such a clear cut turning of the tables. It's insane how Intel have taken EXACTLY the position AMD held with the FX series.

    • @apachelives
      @apachelives 3 года назад

      The higher end FX series had more cores (yes it had poor single thread performance) but here and now its actually doing better than similar aged Intel parts in newer benchmarks, they were a little ahead of their time if anything, at least it has that going for it.

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 года назад +12

      They sort of didn't.
      Intel released a newer gen with:
      Less cores
      A one gen old uArch (11th gen desktop is Ice Lake, not Tiger Lake)
      Backported a 10nm uArch to a 14nm bigger node.
      AMD never did this.
      While most people make a meme out of AMD's Bulldozer uArch, quite a lot of people liked Piledriver (lower prices, higher IPC, higher clocks, lower observed power usage, higher OC potential, higher ram support, better northbridge OC, lower temps)
      It's just sad in retrospective AMD never refreshed their desktop parts for Steamroller, Excavator and Excavator v2.
      Excavator v2 on DDR4 would've had tremendously more IPC if it would've kept L3 cache as well vs Piledriver cores. Somewhere close to the 35-40% mark.

    • @paulmayer8782
      @paulmayer8782 3 года назад +6

      FX was shit but at least it was cheap.

    • @jondonnelly4831
      @jondonnelly4831 3 года назад +1

      Not quite. FX was hamstrung due to how Windows managed the cores. Intel has no excuse. Also AMD added cores while Intel removed 2. So its kinda the opposite problem. Not exact sorry.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 3 года назад

      Nothing wrong in that. Everytime there is one company who has better products. But the price is not good. At $350 this would be quite nice!

  • @FredrikLiljeblad
    @FredrikLiljeblad 3 года назад +121

    You should have done the tests with AMD radeon as the nvidia drivers don't do so well with slow CPUs. 😉

    • @dudebroguymate
      @dudebroguymate 3 года назад +18

      😂😂😂😂 got 'eeem.

    • @oskarelmgren
      @oskarelmgren 3 года назад +7

      Harsh. Harsh but fair :D

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 3 года назад +2

      Destroyed

    • @PadaV4
      @PadaV4 3 года назад +2

      rekt

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 года назад +2

      OOOOF man! Don't portray us Scandinavians as savages who don't even flinch at splattering someones brain up on the back wall like that! :P

  • @jays8287
    @jays8287 3 года назад +16

    Still loving seeing Teddy just chillin in the background. We still miss you TechShowdown

    • @nathanallen7596
      @nathanallen7596 3 года назад +1

      Seeing the Mr. Bean teddy always made me smile, but it sounds like there is a history to it? Care to share?

    • @jays8287
      @jays8287 3 года назад +4

      @@nathanallen7596 there was a tech youtuber named Kevin. He ran a channel called Tech Showdown. He unfortunately passed away due to medical complications. Teddy was his co host on his channel. After he passed, Steve brought teddy to the hardware unboxed studio and he has been there ever since as a way to remember Kevin.

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 3 года назад +5

    would love to start seeing audio software in the benchmark line up, studio one, cubase, ableton live any of those would be great

  • @errorcode503
    @errorcode503 3 года назад +107

    The retail price of this i9 11900k CPU may as well be scalper pricing considering what you get for the money. Sad but true.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 3 года назад +10

      🤔 isn't that how Intel pricing has always been???

    • @errorcode503
      @errorcode503 3 года назад +1

      @@shaneeslick no.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 3 года назад +2

      @@errorcode503 so they didn't discount 10th gen by up to 50% (=$1000) from the same spec 9th, 8th, 7th Gen CPUs, 🤔 might wanna go for an Early Onset Alzheimer's test

    • @errorcode503
      @errorcode503 3 года назад +1

      @@shaneeslick They have made more than just 10th gen CPUs and the i5 10th gen CPUs were actually a good option for the price.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 3 года назад +5

      @@errorcode503 really they didn't start at 10th Gen 🙄,
      If you read my comment I didn't say 10th Gen were over priced, I said 7th, 8th & 9th Gens were overpriced, which was shown when they dropped prices for 10th Gen up to 50% which for some CPUs equaled $1000USD

  • @sadieangelina
    @sadieangelina 3 года назад +41

    Intel i9 11900k users:
    "The processor feels good, much slower than before. Amazing"

    • @Jack-ng3wr
      @Jack-ng3wr 3 года назад +5

      GP2 processor gp2

    • @OCX600RR
      @OCX600RR 3 года назад

      You win the internet haha! Love the reference

  • @kronusaerospace8872
    @kronusaerospace8872 3 года назад +1

    I was very interested to see this review after watching GamersNexus' coverage, since this cpu seems quite power hungry yet they test with the TDP limits in place.
    However as your results show, even when allowed to consume as much power as it can fit in its gob it still underperforms against just about every possible competitor.

  • @TomsManShed
    @TomsManShed 3 года назад +1

    Love the thumbnail...nice to see you don't beat about the (Australian) bush :) Still happy with my Ryzen 9 3900XT I got end last year for £390 ...think it will do me for a while yet.

  • @dcphillips1991
    @dcphillips1991 3 года назад +40

    You know the saying "dress for the job you want, not the job you have", well Intel has done the same thing with pricing, "price it for the CPU you want, not the CPU you have"

  • @aquapendulum
    @aquapendulum 3 года назад +132

    I'm gonna predict the stock for this CPU will be abundant.
    Due to low demand.

    • @MrBALAKUMARA
      @MrBALAKUMARA 3 года назад +9

      there are shintel fangirls scattered around this world more than you can imagine.

    • @TheDeadfast
      @TheDeadfast 3 года назад +4

      Intel must be banking on desperate customers buying anything that is in stock.

    • @dsm828
      @dsm828 3 года назад +5

      Some people creates a rock solid thought like 'Intel always worked for me'' then they procced to only buy intel and not looking into reviews and opinions on the competitors product.

    • @ioanbardan5150
      @ioanbardan5150 3 года назад +9

      @aquapendulum "I'm gonna predict the stock for this CPU will be abundant.
      Due to low demand."
      You severely underestimate the stupidity of corporate fanboys. I literally had a conversation with a real life friend of mine who said he's gonna buy the 11900k anyway cuz he needs to upgrade his 6700k. I told him to go for a 5900x instead, his reply was "nah I'll just go intel".

    • @queenform
      @queenform 3 года назад +1

      if the AMD 5000 is next to impossible to find, this will be a clear win for Intel

  • @Techtablets
    @Techtablets 3 года назад +79

    Nice thumb!

    • @anmolagrawal5358
      @anmolagrawal5358 3 года назад

      Yo, nice reviews!

    • @thebranch4756
      @thebranch4756 3 года назад

      Thats the weirdest comment ive ever seen........... Though if youre the sort bloke who likes in thumbs in bums, i can see why you'd say that. But either way its still pretty farkin weird XD XD XD

    • @anmolagrawal5358
      @anmolagrawal5358 3 года назад

      @@thebranch4756 I think you misunderstood what he said. He meant "thumbnail" and used a shorthand

    • @thebranch4756
      @thebranch4756 3 года назад

      @@anmolagrawal5358 OH sorry thankyou.

    • @roxy_xcxc6869
      @roxy_xcxc6869 3 года назад

      12 gen 16c/24T. Yeah Z690 motherboard coming. Time to throw away lousy 11Gen 8c/16t disaster waste of sand CPU into dustbin quicker.........

  • @vollezar
    @vollezar 3 года назад

    I'd love to see you review that case.

  • @jamesfereira154
    @jamesfereira154 3 года назад +246

    Are we not gonna talk about how the 5800x beats it at almost everything at almost 200 dollars less?!

    • @jimmylim5015
      @jimmylim5015 3 года назад +20

      So glad I have one though I recommend everyone to spend the extra $ to get the 5900x

    • @Amusia727
      @Amusia727 3 года назад +88

      The fact that this makes a 5800X look like a good deal is hilarious

    • @jimmylim5015
      @jimmylim5015 3 года назад +11

      @@Amusia727 and it outperforms it in many ways while being cheaper

    • @chico20m
      @chico20m 3 года назад

      Why??? There is not stock.

    • @r.j.sharkey
      @r.j.sharkey 3 года назад +5

      The are in stock at Newegg right now.

  • @EriIaz
    @EriIaz 3 года назад +100

    Pentium 4 1500: FINALLY! A WORTHY OPPONENT!

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 3 года назад +10

      I don't know, I think the Pentium still has the advantage 😂

    • @minbcraft
      @minbcraft 3 года назад +5

    • @suhail-msk
      @suhail-msk 3 года назад +3

      This made me laugh for 5 mins straight 😂😂

    • @ave6358
      @ave6358 3 года назад +3

      I dont know... Pentium D would like to have a word with that P4...

    • @EriIaz
      @EriIaz 3 года назад +5

      @@ave6358 that one was so bad I forgot it even existed :D
      But to give Intel credit, they actually tried there. Pentium D wasn’t a step back, it was a weird step sideways intended to keep up with AMD Athlon 64 X2 which turned out to be the main trend in the future, but was badly implemented and not supported by contemporary software and motherboards very well. It derives from Pentium 4 and merely inherits its main flaws. The engineer who came up with an idea of adding more cores was right, but the problem was Prescott cores were only able to scale heat output :D When Intel did the same thing with Core Duo architecture, which essentially was a modernized mobile Pentium III, they got much better result. Not the best processors, sure, but they were good enough and actually had performance gains.
      Pentium 4 itself, on the other hand... Oof! Whoever thought that NetBurst was a good idea for an ordinary desktop PC had to be kidding. Maaaaybe it was useful in some predictable server applications and data transfer oriented tasks, but that’s pretty much it, and the power requirements along with IPC losses made this series completely irrelevant. You were not going to sport so much data at the time for it’s advantage to matter, but you always have a perform and hit necessary for that. As the result, from an end-user perspective it was a processor with less IPC and bloated frequency, almost as if gigahertz were the only selling point. Almost as if they were designing a CPU to perform on paper. More jigahertz, less performance. Anything based on Pentium 4 architecture was doomed to turn out as a failure. Also Rambus. Same strory. More bandwidth for huge theoretical data transfers, but dogshit latency in the real world scenarios. Apparently they kept it for communication with GPUs, but I refuse to believe they did not see GDDR coming. All of that was advertised at nearly 900 USD for the top notch model on Pentium 4 release. At 1500MHz. That’s with Pentium III still existing and outperforming it without sweating. It was so bad Intel had to come up with a refresh couple of months later and cut the price for 1600MHz version by 2,5 times, and even that did not help sales. Then they doubled the frequency with Prescott, but got little to no performance improvement. Pentium 4 was the reason of all major Intel failures for several years to come. Of corse I think Intel realized the mistake, but it took a lot of time to roll back to P6 architecture and sufficiently modernize it.
      And I think AVX512 is the new NetBurst gimmick all over again. More energy consumption again. Huge-ass bloated cores again. It may be useful in some server applications again, but it has marginal real world improvement because tasks which benefit from AVX512 do benefit from GPU computation even more, so suitable only to report “20% gen-over-gen advantage”. Sure it’s an IPC gain, in AVX512 optimized tasks, but it’s an IPC loss if anything without it due to AVX offsets. KEKW!

  • @GearandGaming
    @GearandGaming 3 года назад +23

    "It's sh*t". Love that you guys don't bury the lead. 😂

  • @gamingmarcus
    @gamingmarcus 3 года назад +4

    Compating your review and the GN review to LTT I'm shocked how little they mentioned the fact that the 11900k literally can't even beat its previous model most of the time.

  • @Panrogo
    @Panrogo 3 года назад +81

    I love you guys, keeping it 110% real with us even if it angry big companies

    • @brandonclark8736
      @brandonclark8736 3 года назад

      This channel is better than that long-hair guy or linus.

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 3 года назад +36

    The only upsides of 11th gen release are... sales of 10th gen.

    • @dudebroguymate
      @dudebroguymate 3 года назад +2

      @John Jenkins Just buy AMD.

    • @whitehavencpu6813
      @whitehavencpu6813 3 года назад

      @@dudebroguymate No there are really good deals for Intel 10th gen, especially the 10700K.

    • @dudebroguymate
      @dudebroguymate 3 года назад +1

      @@whitehavencpu6813 Yes but right now you should buy AMD.

    • @whitehavencpu6813
      @whitehavencpu6813 3 года назад +6

      @@dudebroguymate yeah but AMD is not always in stock and sometimes the prices are high. Buy whatever you can find that gives you best price-to-performance.

    • @dudebroguymate
      @dudebroguymate 3 года назад

      @@whitehavencpu6813 A M D

  • @theexmann
    @theexmann 3 года назад

    Keep up the great work, and I hope your channel reaches the 1 Million subscriber milestone this year.

  • @Brattoes
    @Brattoes 3 года назад +1

    Good to hear about the 10400f with b560 mb. I am currently looking for most performance for the least buck, need to upgrade from my 2500k but I dont need a powerhouse; as long as I can play games decently (currently salvage my 570 gpu for the new system) I am happy.
    Since the launch of 10400f all suggestions were negative and preferred the 3300x. But that one is nowhere to be found and ryzen 2000's are not cheap either. 3600 is now +70 euro, depending on whether a wraith is added. Then there are the differences in prices for the mb's, can be 40-120euro differences. Some combo's with 10400f are as expensive as a 3600 system, which I wonder if its worth it. Hope your review is going to give my answer.

  • @georgemorley1029
    @georgemorley1029 3 года назад +36

    This is not a lake, it’s a canal. “Far-canal”.

  • @MaveRick01
    @MaveRick01 3 года назад +52

    could you also color the previous gen part next time? That makes it just that little bit easier to compare the generational improvement (or in this case, decrease)

    • @frozen4blade313
      @frozen4blade313 3 года назад

      Do you have eyes???????👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 3 года назад

      +1

    • @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis
      @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis 3 года назад +3

      Just pause it brother!!

    • @MaveRick01
      @MaveRick01 3 года назад +3

      @@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis That is very inconvenient.

    • @brenlouissurio2404
      @brenlouissurio2404 3 года назад +2

      Given that 10th gen is a major comparison to this new release, I agree that they should have highlighted it too. Good suggestion.

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 3 года назад +6

    You can sum up most of the "real" 11900K reviews in one word. SAVAGE! I love it!

  • @cheozuka
    @cheozuka 3 года назад +1

    Liked instantly based on thumbnail 🤣 great honest reviews as always!

  • @SMACKYOURB1TCHUP
    @SMACKYOURB1TCHUP 3 года назад +45

    coffin lake 🕺🏿🕺🏿⚰️🕺🏿🕺🏿

    • @00ii0i9
      @00ii0i9 3 года назад

      🧛‍♂️ I’m gonna drrrrink yo 🩸 and 💰

    • @RobVee.
      @RobVee. 3 года назад

      rofl good one

    • @perothing
      @perothing 3 года назад

      Covid Lake

  • @tomstech4390
    @tomstech4390 3 года назад +56

    Reviewers and gamers: Roasts the cpu
    Rocket lake: Hold my beer... [roasts itself]

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 года назад +3

      Or rather "hold my charcoal" :P

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 3 года назад

      I mean, I'd at least give the Rocket Lake i5s a shot.
      It's a real shame that my takeaway from the various Rocket Lake reviews is that only the lower-end SKUs can be considered at least passable...

  • @yosnielectrico
    @yosnielectrico 3 года назад

    steve you are amazing bro, your videos are extremely good. thank you for your hard work. of course your friend is pretty good too at this. you guys are the best.

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau 3 года назад +2

    You know it's going to be a good one when Mr. Poopy is in the thumbnail :D

  • @antal1207
    @antal1207 3 года назад +53

    Thankfully I bought the 5900X :P

    • @Kevin-ij9wt
      @Kevin-ij9wt 3 года назад +3

      Me too... Wasn't easy to connect with, but its a true beast.

    • @erichall090909
      @erichall090909 3 года назад +3

      Mine comes in a few hours

    • @sparkypvp2167
      @sparkypvp2167 3 года назад

      Cheers 🍻

    • @sparkypvp2167
      @sparkypvp2167 3 года назад

      @@incrediLance well good thing is that you have option on the cpu side right now

  • @FilipinoFinesse
    @FilipinoFinesse 3 года назад +42

    I’m so happy I purchased the 5900X. A perfect sweet spot for my needs.

    • @ProdigyQb
      @ProdigyQb 3 года назад +10

      "sweet spot"

    • @SlayerSeraph
      @SlayerSeraph 3 года назад

      I can't find it anywhere...
      What Motherboard and RAM exactly did you pair with it?
      And SSD?

    • @sparkypvp2167
      @sparkypvp2167 3 года назад +4

      "Sweet spot"

    • @TheBadassOne17
      @TheBadassOne17 3 года назад

      Same I got one too

    • @dracer35
      @dracer35 3 года назад +2

      @@SlayerSeraph I got my 5900x from Micro Center. Had to drive two and a half hours but I walked in around noon and got one no problem. Paired it with an Asus x570-i Strix mini itx board and RTX 3090 FE. Everything watercooled in the Lian Li 011 mini case with 3 radiators (2- 360mm and 1-240mm). Oh and 32gb of Flare X 3200 C14 ram. I have my old 9900k system for sale now lol.

  • @TimoBirnschein
    @TimoBirnschein 3 года назад +1

    great review, thank you!

  • @tobygroves2112
    @tobygroves2112 3 года назад +9

    Huge thumbs up for 11400F on B560 - that will be interesting!

    • @tobygroves2112
      @tobygroves2112 3 года назад

      There was never any guarantee of forward 11th gen CPU compatibility for all Socket1200 chipsets. B460 was garbage anyway due to the lack of memory overclocking, hence why B560 is so interesting, especially in concert with a 10400F or 11400F. Will be interested to see how these two CPUs compare.

  • @Ja.KooLit
    @Ja.KooLit 3 года назад +66

    AmD: Lets proceed with smaller nodes
    Intel: F that. Lets get bigger. Bigger nodes, bigger price, bigger heat. Bigger price. Biggest Powaaaahhhhhhh...... Consumption

  • @irishgiant5150
    @irishgiant5150 3 года назад +56

    Since Core i9 isn't a mandatory part of their lineup historically, you'd think they'd have just branded it i7 this gen and avoided most of the flak from reviewers. I'd personally be fine if they had said, 'hey, 8 cores is the best we can do this go around, so i7 is flagship for this gen".

    • @dashkataey1740
      @dashkataey1740 3 года назад +10

      I posted a similar comment on another review. If they would have just been honest and said, hey, we will only have i7's for 11th gen and priced them all at 11700k prices, Intel would have looked pretty good. But because they had to be greedy, they decided to make this god-awful CPU and price it way too high.

    • @QuixoticPenguin
      @QuixoticPenguin 3 года назад +7

      This seems like the fault of a shitty marketing team again. It's a no brainer for a lot of the engineers to probably just forgo the i9 this time

  • @JeremyArchie
    @JeremyArchie 3 года назад +7

    Oh, the simple, brutal savagery of that thumbnail. 🤣

  • @JohnSmith-yx8kf
    @JohnSmith-yx8kf 3 года назад +6

    Intel feels like the Call of Duty of the hardware world: release something every year, even if nobody wants it, nobody asked for it, and there's no reason to stop playing the old one.

  • @Carpenter92
    @Carpenter92 3 года назад +12

    "Intel's New Flagshit CPU."

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 3 года назад +1

      This ship is going to sink.

  • @Karozy4869
    @Karozy4869 3 года назад +9

    3:38 "That being the case"
    Most overused pun that I rarely get tired of 🤣

  • @MozartificeR
    @MozartificeR 3 года назад +1

    The least they could have done is bump the cache, if they are bringing nothing more to the table.

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 3 года назад

    So much for that change of leadership creating a better business strategy... For my money, the only 14nm Intel CPUs worth buying the last 12 months were the 10100 (I bought one for a file server) and maybe the 10850K (I might have bought one if I could have also gotten a 6800XT at retail) for kicking gaming build.

  • @xlinnaeus
    @xlinnaeus 3 года назад +76

    Hello Steve! Really enjoyed the Moore’s Law is Dead episode!

    • @gamingunboxed5130
      @gamingunboxed5130 3 года назад +28

      Hey mate, glad you enjoyed it. Good stuff!

    • @lighttechzeon7026
      @lighttechzeon7026 3 года назад +3

      @@gamingunboxed5130 is this really Steve XD

    • @lighttechzeon7026
      @lighttechzeon7026 3 года назад +3

      @@gamingunboxed5130 no way your a legend bro 👍 💪 keep doing these amazing benchmarks i trust no other tech channel except yours and Jarrod's tech

    • @tappy8741
      @tappy8741 3 года назад +4

      @@lighttechzeon7026 Well his profile pic isn't upside down but he did say mate so it must be

    • @humdrum7033
      @humdrum7033 3 года назад

      Moore didn't account for crony capitalism

  • @High_Alpha
    @High_Alpha 3 года назад +4

    Love the thumbnail! Don't hold back Steve, tell us what you really think! 🤣

  • @Mani-aX
    @Mani-aX 3 года назад

    wow. glad to see this. ill stick with my 10-900K until the next refresh from AMD and intel. 5900X would be awesome... if you can find one at the correct MSRP. thanks for the work done here benchmarking all of this.

  • @a.j.8926
    @a.j.8926 3 года назад +4

    We appreciate the honesty
    I love my 10700K... and I'm certainly glad I didn't wait

  • @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
    @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 3 года назад +3

    Another stellar review Steve!

  • @drunksupportcharacter
    @drunksupportcharacter 3 года назад +10

    I swear at this point intel released this waste of sand as a meme.

  • @joshpearson4256
    @joshpearson4256 3 года назад

    Just out of curiosity it would be great to see the iGpu performance over 10th Gen. Ive had to advise some builds rcently using 10700k over 5800x or 3800x because they have been discounted to $260 at Microcenter and come with iGpu, where AMD does not.
    It would be great to know how the iGpus stack up to low end dedicated gpus to know how much value they actually offer

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 3 года назад +20

    Payback time for Intel, for milking its users with their "4 cores is enough" line for the better part of the decade.

  • @claudiucojobv
    @claudiucojobv 3 года назад +12

    Brutally honest review, just what I've come to expect from you guys. Great stuff!!!

  • @post-leftluddite
    @post-leftluddite 3 года назад +19

    Alder lake is going to havw a tough time too, leaks of early engineering samples have show Zen4 has a 29% core for core performance improvement. It's also said that the 5nm process it's on will reach 5Ghz, so it's looking like Zen4 will have 30%+ core for core performance improvements, so Intel doesn't have an easy road ahead

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 3 года назад +1

      I believe AMD isn't scared to fight back again

    • @HexaBlade007
      @HexaBlade007 3 года назад +1

      i think that when zen 4 is out, amd will rise to the top once and for all

    • @andrescarrasco1248
      @andrescarrasco1248 3 года назад +3

      Don't worry Intel will have the 14nm +++++++++++-&&$##_&+(-$#-(+-***+++ process ready by 2023

    • @monkeslayer-km5ho
      @monkeslayer-km5ho 2 года назад

      I'm from the future,this comment will age like a hardened sour cheese milk

  • @TrynaBeCray
    @TrynaBeCray 3 года назад +10

    Intel: "we can't beat AMD in multicore, but i have an idea"
    Intel: drop the i9 core count to equal cheaper models, so we can increase core clock.
    Intel: we still have higher clock speeds than AMD!

    • @kemas9604
      @kemas9604 3 года назад

      Amd can overclock above intel bruh

    • @ProphetKrix
      @ProphetKrix 2 года назад

      @@kemas9604 source?

    • @kemas9604
      @kemas9604 2 года назад

      @@ProphetKrix gamer nexus, supertune 5600x and many review from jarrod linus etc

  • @Timmy_Horsenutz
    @Timmy_Horsenutz 3 года назад +5

    At least the box looks nice. Great job, Marketing!

  • @TomsGotPowers
    @TomsGotPowers 3 года назад +8

    Love how impartial you are, harshly so, it's brilliant 🤣

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 3 года назад +4

    Intel wants you to change your editorial direction with that thumbnail.

  • @pc-ninja
    @pc-ninja 3 года назад

    Hi I Like your reviews but not including things like Adaptive Boost Technology in your review isn't a fair review
    I do have a question could you do a video talking about using AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-core, 32-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor, and Thread ripper using RTX 3090. As I am not sure if they would work well together. I heard there are performance issues with adobe software and blender. I really don't want to get an Intel 11th Gen as they are not worth it. Please advise many thanks.

  • @marlowmarshall5686
    @marlowmarshall5686 3 года назад

    I currently have a Z490 board with a 10900k and a GTX 3090, and a samsung 980 pro (which is locked to PCIe 3.0 on the Comet Lake architecture) with Rocket Lake being able to unlock PCIe 4.0 on my MSI Godlike, do you think the 11900K would be worth the overall performance increase?

  • @kierenevans2521
    @kierenevans2521 3 года назад +5

    Not pulling any punches with the thumbnail, lol.

  • @TheSickness
    @TheSickness 3 года назад +32

    At this point I'm guessing Intel will bring a GT1030 class GPU for $999 to the market and act all proud. 😂

  • @Dastivus
    @Dastivus 3 года назад

    Appreciate your brutal honesty sir. Is there anything redeemable for the platform that the 11th gen runs on? Is the Intel UHD Graphics 750 any good or different from the 630?

  • @davidgunther8428
    @davidgunther8428 3 года назад +1

    I think they must have been far along in development with this before they had a breakthrough with Superfin. This was a lot of work to make, I'm sure this didn't meet original performance expectations. I don't think we will see anyone back-port architectures for a while, after this.

  • @YaKillaCJ
    @YaKillaCJ 3 года назад +39

    I wonder if they also took a performance hit because they finally incorporated some security this time?

    • @tomunterwegs1206
      @tomunterwegs1206 3 года назад +18

      it has AVX-512, the killer feature 👍

    • @Warump
      @Warump 3 года назад +1

      Exactly what I thought, took them some years tho..

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas 3 года назад

      Still needs a complete architecture overhaul to address these issues.

    • @oskarelmgren
      @oskarelmgren 3 года назад

      Probably yes.

  • @alexgabriel5877
    @alexgabriel5877 3 года назад +6

    that CPU should've been released on April 1st

  • @Jcrash1
    @Jcrash1 3 года назад

    Thanks for the informative review, i think I’ll upgrade my 10900k to the new 11900k now

  • @Davethreshold
    @Davethreshold 3 года назад

    Thank you for mentioning intel 12th gen. I was wondering when they would shrink it to 10NM!

  • @Winnetou17
    @Winnetou17 3 года назад +5

    Intel, if they weren't so hopelessly arrogant, should've just released this as the i7 11700K and have no i9 parts. Because this is a pretty good 8-core CPU, and it really trade blows with R7 5800X. Which is quite a feat, given it's 14nm vs 7nm. Yeah, on power usage there's no competition, but that's the manufacturing process forcing the laws of physics. The chip design is genuinely impressive. They only needed to release this part as $400-450 and there would have been less "why is this even released ?" "waste of sand" etc conclusions about this CPU and lineup in general. Also, truly, there no 11th gen CPU that should have the i9 branding. Nothing about it is extreme performance.
    If only they weren't so arrogant... Well, I guess they're hoping that they'll sell anyway, and I don't know the numbers there. But I still feel that, longer term, it would have been the better decision to be more honest.

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn 3 года назад +14

    Love the thumbnail

    • @gamingunboxed5130
      @gamingunboxed5130 3 года назад +1

      Mate you should have seen Tim's first version, it was not work safe :D

  • @DaddyWesker
    @DaddyWesker 3 года назад

    hey, what about temperatures? Thanks for the review though.

  • @gerardfraser
    @gerardfraser 3 года назад

    awesome ,thanks for sharing

  • @KiamKweli
    @KiamKweli 3 года назад +20

    If you're a gamer the 5600X for $299 from Microcenter felt like a phenomenal deal.

    • @jonathanlarsen4177
      @jonathanlarsen4177 3 года назад +8

      @@maverick7376 get over it. Tech deals was wrong. Not even a surprise, dude's a salesman.

    • @isakh8565
      @isakh8565 3 года назад +14

      Idk man, 10600K for $190 seems like a much better deal to me.
      Or get the 10850K for $320. Just 20 bucks extra and you get a 10 core instead.
      5600X should rot on shelves for $300 imo.

    • @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis
      @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis 3 года назад

      If u a gamer U buy the intel 10600k!
      Or like Steve said 10600kf
      Intel 10 gen cpus are the budget option now 🤣

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 3 года назад +4

      @@isakh8565 I’d say the 3600 is the better deal, pair with a X570 and then in a year or two, upgrade to a 5900X. With the Intel parts, you’re stuck with what you have in that generation. The 10850k isn’t too bad beyond a much higher power consumption vs AMD parts, but if you build with that in mind, it’s not insurmountable.

    • @turboqzma
      @turboqzma 3 года назад +1

      And Intel Core i7-10700K with +2 cores more and $50 cheaper than 5600x is even better deal.

  • @576turky
    @576turky 3 года назад +9

    the truthiest thumbnail in RUclips 😂

  • @madfrosty5228
    @madfrosty5228 3 года назад +2

    The vulnerabilities might have been fixed , that would explain the drop in performance , does anyone know if they are fixed ?

  • @qpwodkgh2010
    @qpwodkgh2010 3 года назад +2

    A two word review. Forking awesome! I love this new plan. Review the item, tell everyone "It's Sh!t!" as the review, the prices drop. What's not to like?

  • @ValentineC137
    @ValentineC137 3 года назад +4

    Im interested as to why they're using the 3090 rather than the 6900XT for CPU testing, since the 6900XT is faster on average in both 1080p and 1440p ultra testing in thier own benchmarks

  • @patrickang7739
    @patrickang7739 3 года назад +42

    A wise man once said these are "a waste of sand swept into the ocean".

  • @summushieremiasclarkson4700
    @summushieremiasclarkson4700 3 года назад

    The biggest problem for Rocket Lake is the node, 14nm++++++++++++ is just no longer scalable. This would be a much better release on a higher density, efficient node with 16 cores for instance.

  • @catsspat
    @catsspat 3 года назад

    What kind of properties does the sky-blue block in the logo have in Minecraft? And how do we get one in Minecraft?

  • @MaZEEZaM
    @MaZEEZaM 3 года назад +5

    PLEASE CAN YOU INCLUDE THE AUD PRICE for your Australian viewers.

  • @undertaken5200
    @undertaken5200 3 года назад +6

    Intel: “yea just remove cores, they won’t care...”

  • @virtual-viking
    @virtual-viking 3 года назад

    It takes me back to 2004, when Intel "updated" the Pentium 4 HT from the 130nm _Northwood_ to the 90nm _Prescot_ - decreasing performance while increasing the TDP from 82W to 103W.
    It took over 2 years to repurpose an notebook architecture for the desktop back then, but I fear it will take Intel longer to recover this time.

  • @miweneia
    @miweneia 3 года назад +1

    You know shit's real when hardware unboxed puts a poop emoji in the thumbnail