The Quest does not limit you to 1 app at a time. But you have to move the first app away from the center spot before opening a second one or it will close the first one... I know that's the dumbest thing, I don't know who thought that was a good idea!
It's not dumb, 99% of people will want to focus on one app at the time. Your phone works the same way for example. However you can drag a second app from the task bar directly onto a side window slot to skip the whole moving your first app thing.
Image quality sucks when you actually try to read text, nobody really wanna do productivity or read things in quest3. the RUclips video doesn’t show you the actual quality so many people will easily get fooled. And for those who had quest3, they never experienced a better display and see the day and night difference. It’s like someone using 1080 display will be happy with it if he never tried 4K monitor. But once you experienced 4K monitor? You never wanna go back.
@@davidmthekidd 1) You definitly can 2) If you usage of a VR Headset is just having virtual displays on your environment, buy a bigger screen and save money xD
Many people cannot think by themselves so they have others justify their purchases for them. Just the psychology of how that was worded. Phew another RUclipsr just saved you from buying something you know nothing about.
I did the Vision Pro demo, then bought a Quest 3. It gives me everything I need to get started in VR (I’m a newbie) and cost way less. The focus on games also gives it more of a way to fit into my life at this point. I’m sure I’ll buy a different iteration of the Vision at some point down the road, but for now Meta has a winner that’s a good value.
Here's a cool video idea Cnet, 'Spatial Headsets are different price points' $400 for Xreal Air glasses - $500 for Meta Quest 3 - $1000 for some other VR - $3500 for Apple Vision Pro. Compare all of them and see the mutual cases
i have experienced xReal for working productivity, it feels like still at beta, not stable, headache due to feels imbalanced, but very promising , few more tweaks for its balancing, then we have a desktop replacement
The Q3 has a higher field of view, higher fps/hz display options, an internal battery, better distributed weight , tones more VR/MR games, can be used with fitness apps/ u can walk/run around while using it, costs 7x less and haptic Feedback if u want with gaming etc. The AVP has better passthrough, higher resolution, eye tracking, more power (but probably all used up coz of the resolution) and an Oled display
Yeah, I was disappointed when Meta basically abandoned using OLED on their 'mainstream' headsets after the CV1... I actually still use my CV1 for any PC based VR games. I just still seem to prefer the benefits inherent with OLED more than the improved resolution of the Quest/Rift-S LCD displays!
@StreetPreacherr unfortunately oled had problems with mura and smearing that bothered some more than the enhanced contrast would offset. AVP also still has these problems with their displays, according to some reviews
aside for no eye-tracking and 3x less screen resolution, Quest 3 has actually more features, actually working hand tracking and full VR games - all for 1/7 the price. Don't let Apple marketing fool you. And btw, spatial video is nothing special, it's just good ol stereoscopic 3D...
The Quest has a screen resolution of 2064x2208 per-eye and the Apple has 3680x3140 per-eye... not sure where you get 3-times the resolution. Is it because the Apple has a smaller field of view?
As someone who dislikes apple as a company, is a diehard android fanboy, and owns a quest 3, I disagree with this tbh. The vision pro is actually pretty cool. Saying "3x the resolution of the quest 3" isnt a good way to put it. The vision pro has a PPD of around 60-70. For reference, the only other headset on the market right now that has that level of clarity is the 6000 dollar varjo enterprise headset that also requires like a 1 grand a month subscription to use, not to mention a VERY powerful computer. For even more reference, the quest 3 and quest 2 both have ppd's of about 25. It is said that a PPD of 70 is similar to just looking through a window, there are no pixels visible to the naked human eye. On top of that, the vision pro is oled, similar to the bigscreen beyond. This means that you get the deep blacks which make a HUGE difference in an immersive VR experience. Adding on even MORE to this is the M2 chip. Like it or not, the S24 ultra is the first android phone with a chip powerful enough to beat apple's silicon, and thats compared to their MOBILE chipset. The M2 chip is a chip used in enterprise workstations and is incredibly powerful. I am sure it is very clocked down to maintain battery life and heat in the vision pro, but the fact that they are able to pack such a powerful chip into a standalone headset is incredibly impressive. This probably means that the vision pro can run at its native resolution without a computer, unlike the quest 3, which needs a powerful computer to run at its full capability because the chipset just isnt powerful enough to run it at its full potential.
@@covertpuppytwo3857 sceen resolution works exponentially. For example, 1440p is actually almost double 1080p. Quest 3 and vision pro have almost the same fov
@@AutTheWizardthe M2 kind of does native resolution. It relies on fauviated rendering with the eye tracking. I'm not knocking it's but it's a similar amount of compute compared to a Q3 running full res all the time.
Its like a mutual profits.. they get views.. manufacturers gets huge hypes.. do not just swallow any "tech youtuber" eventho they're big.. you already what i mean who they are..
I have been impressed by immersed - I usually have a large tv as my monitor but via immersed I can have multiple monitors with higher res virtual screens even larger than my 60 inch tv - makes davinci resolve much more usable
Thanks for this vid! It's what I've been telling everyone. If you think the AVP is revolutionary, it means you probably haven't tried other VR headsets. This stuff all exists. None of it is new or done so well it warrants spending $3000 more. Thing doesn't even have an internal battery. Even your laptop would survive a bit unplugged
One thing to clarify: Apple did not invent 3d video and of course all VR headsets including the Quest 3 can play 3d 180 degree VR videos. There are thousands of them. And also 3d live sports etc.
Immersed with the Quest3 is the killer combo. Been using it for 3 months now. I spend 2-3 hours working this way everyday. RUclips VR is also a ton of fun. The other day I went paragliding over the great pyramids in full VR.
Amazing video, I've just got my meta quest 3 as a present from a friend, I had so many questions and you answer them all in a really objective video, incredible, thank you!!!
Yeah, the Quest 2 is cheaper, but if you want an actual mixed-reality experience, you're not gonna get it with the grainy black-and-white security-camera passthrough on the Q2. It might be OK if you plan to work fully immersed.
I use immersive when working from home. Add in a bobovr headstrap and remove the facepad and voila. Its like wearing glasses in stead of something pushing on your face all the time
Spatial video is so misleading. From what I gather , that's just 3D video, that you can record with the Quest 3. Look at VR 180 3D videos on RUclips with the Quest 3, that's better than what I see recorded with the AVP, that doesn't have the wide view. I have the Qoocam EGO 3D camera, so I can look at the "spatial video" I made with that, on the Q3. Hopefully there will be a good VR 180 3D consumer camera out soon, my money will be going on that, not the AVP.
When I heard the Apple announcement I was excited that they made a breakthrough in volumetric video compression. Real let down that spatial video is just their brand of stereoscopic 3D
You cannot record video with the quest 3. The difference with the AVP is the resolution. And eventually Apple will make it easy to edit spatially video. Try editing your qoocam 3d video or any other for that matter.
I'm using immersed now to watch content on my laptop. Works pretty well. My keyboard is a logitec. In my other room I have two PC's of which one is on now and I can access that pc through remote desktop on my laptop and open a second window to see it's content. Unfortunately I can't use my keyboard with remote desktop on my second pc. Just need to use the virtual keyboard from that computer. Maybe I have to get used to controlling it, but in any case, it is much more fun to not need to move my laptop every time I want to use it, but do it with the Quest.
The only let down by using Quest 3 this way is the ppd is too low, Windows will look like 720p or lower depending on the scaling. If the Quest Pro had better displays and cameras the Vision Pro would have been moot. Still like that Apple entered the space even if I'm not personally a fan they tend to bring in more investment into a category.
They kinda had to go for higher resolution otherwise against the Quest 3 it would simply be DOA. But it's clear what that costs to implement displays like this in a stand alone headset is practically out of the consumer market price-wise
I was saying the sameting you was saying so when I saw your video I instantly watched it I use my Macbook Pro through Virtual Desktop and also have immersed but i haven't set it up yet as I have Virtual Desktop and inhave multiple Music Production DAWs like Virtuoso which I use in Mixed Reality mode and Korg Gadget VR and I also have alot of Mixed Reality instruments like pianos guitars etc i play live into Logic Pro X
So the way to go is to wait for the future quest 4 so that It will bring all the stuff the apple vision is now getting hyped for, for less of a quarter of the price.
They need to include spatial snapping in a new version. i want to be able to snap a window on a room and walk away and see other windows that i have snapped previously on other locations inside my house.
virtual desktop does even more in some aspect, on top of being very regularly updated and the developer really liste a lot to the community! If you are going for a quest 3 with the goal of saving up 3000$, I think it's only fair to mention a 20$ app that can pretty much do everything you need. :) maybe mention it next ;)@@CNET
@@CNET You are already buying a $400-$500 VR headset and you worry about $19.99. Your logic is flawed. Not sure if you're still working at CNET but if I was the boss, you would be without a job right now.
@@mikeyr5275What do you need 8k for? BTW to theoretically use 8k would have to have a better processor than it currently has, plus only very expensive TVs can do that
Naked hands as interface is a improvement like it was touchscreen in smartphones. I dont know why other brands doesnt implement it, there is open source code in OpenCV to do it.
Hmm, this wasn’t bad actually, surprisingly thorough. However, when discussing using a Mac with Immersed, you didn’t mention the fact that what it’s actually doing in this case is basically doing a screen recording via SharePlay. It has a lot of limitations on resolution and frame rate unless you pay for a higher tier, and further because its a screen recording you are transmitting everything you see on your screens over wifi and also to Immersed apps servers and so there is a risk when entering banking information or passwords, etc. It’s possible that this limitation is only for the iPhone/ipad streaming, but i was under the impression it worked that way for Mac as well. If thats the case it’s a bit dangerous and irresponsible to not mention these things. I’m not being a nanny, I’m pointing that this is a MAJOR security thing that should get discussed when doing stuff like this
I’ve just started using a meta quest 2 and the immersed app and find that it’s difficult to read text or that it’s only easy to read text when it’s in the middle of the lens or in the “sweet spot”
Word is that Meta is taking notes on the Vision Pro feedback. Ironically, Apple makes the best headstrap for the Quest 3. Solo knit band on Quest 3 is hands down most comfortable headstrap for Quest 3.
ofc avp has better screen resolution, but on quest 3 i can: -i used to use immersed for "spatial computing" xd with my pc up to 5 screens, that u can scale and move even if i dont have that much in real life, i can create virtual ones and my pc detect it as a new screens -then i use fluid to do the same but only with my quest standalone, i can also leave screens arround my around my living room and they pin in the places i put them like the avp, one on my tv, another in my computer, another in the fridge, etc or surround myself with them, i think its up to 5 too that u can scale (+3 of the main menu), avp is up to 12 screens -for media i use bigscreen to watch movies in services or skybox if i want to watch 3d videos or images, (btw theres a ia owl3d for pc that turns normal images or videos into 3d, i was getting fun with that, the result its really nice in half-sbs format for quest) -spatial photos (the same that apple) will be on quest too, now its on beta
I have a quest, the comparison is dumb. the quest software is nowhere near as good as apple's. you can't even easily load android apps on the quest. you can sort of make it work if you're very interested in the tech but the average person is not going to do any of this.
Next time I'm sure meta will produce two version: Quest 4 for about $500, and Quest 4 Pro for about $999. The Quest 4 Pro will have the same resolution of the the Apple vison Pro. I will wait for the Quest 4 Pro (likely would ben for Christmas).
Yeah with no future os and software support, easy to break, missing stock parts after certain year, difficulties finding global official repair location, broken and laggy overtime
Out of all the mice in the world that can connect to the Quest 3 why should anyone ever chose the Apple Magic Mouse - generally considered the worst mouse ever designed?
@@CNET This was a rhetorical question. It really doesn't matter which mouse you use for your illustrative purpose. I just wanted to dunk on the Magic Mouse. Hope you didn't take my comment to personal.
Thank you for this Video, i really Appreciate this, but i think you should compare them side by side, we all know there are things Apple Vision Pro does better than quest 3, but the Big question will be, IS THAT FUNCTION WORTH $3500? Apple is the king of Presentation and also those RUclips influencers thats hype up device to get more views on their channel and deceive people to spend more when they don't really need to do so.
6:05 kinda tells me all I need to know. If CNET hasn't sent him a Vision Pro to compare the experiences, how on earth can you honestly tell me the difference is or isn't worth it. In all other areas of my life having someone tell me "I've not tried the alternative but what I have is just as good" doesn't work for me.
This isn't a direct compare and contrast, it's just showing that "SpAtIaL cOmPuTiNg" (god, how many focus groups did Apple put that through?) isn't exclusive to Vision Pro. If you want reviews from complimentary headsets sent out you're only going to get them from the Apple approved influencers. At least for now those are the only people I've seen who were given advanced access to the device to have reviews ready on launch. Which, to me, is really suspicious.
@@ItDaBizthat's not totally true. While I don't know the back story, but first of all, there are almost no experienced VR users that are also popular tech reviewers. While it's true that everyone that reviewing it saying how they loved VR and tested everything, that's not true most of the time. The only popular tech reviewer that I know of who used VR semiregularly is Linus Tech Tips. He never received his headset because of his relationship with Apple. and by the way, experienced VR users loving this thing. You can look up VR veterans review of the headset. Yeah most of them say that we are using VR for either VR gaming or social experience, both is almost non-existent in Apple's headset. But they also admit that VisionOS is top-notch and display-passthrough quality is on another level. Even the problems with comfort are kinda overblown by people who never wore a VR headset before longer than one hour.
I think that you don't need to worry about this device, you've probably never thought of VR before, and now hype've started, is it enough to justify it for you? If you're on the fence - just wait or give up on it or at least just try any friend's headset yourself
Thank you ! This really needed to be stated. Vision pro is nothing revolutionary. It is well executed ... but not that well, therefore a 3500$ price tag is certainly too much. It is true that the Quest 3 is not that well executed but the main problems are more on software (horizon) than the hardware itself. I also see that the main use cases can be executed on both, so there's not that much incentive to buy the vision pro.
For a few $$$ more, Meta could've included a nice head strap with the Q3, that would've made a big difference. I think that's probably the main thing Apple got right😂 AVP not having controllers seems as insane. VR gaming is great fun, no idea why they have ignored the gamers, who often have a large budget.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 what about the 12 millisecond latency or the M2 cpu that’s whey faster than the quest 3s cpu or the higher resolution cameras
@@lesleyhaan116 So with Apple's better latency and M2 CPU... can you run PCVR apps better than the Quest 3? Oh wait, the Apple doesn't support PCVR. Never mind... But I guess MS-Word starts up a millisecond faster than the Quest... ok.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Aside from the displays, it has two separate SOC's, 13 cameras, 6 mics, all kinds of different sensors. There's a lot of expensive tech packed in there. Not saying its a bargain at $3500, but the Quest 3 has over $400 worth of parts and Meta is selling it at a big loss.
I listened to this video and bought a quest 3. It sucks compared to my vision pro lol. I’m returning my quest 3 today. Personally I much more enjoy the experience on the AVP.
the Meta Quest 3. This VR headset can do the same things as the vision pro, but for Far less money. Why is everybody treating the Apple vision pro as a new milestone? it's been done already!
Shhhhhh they are trying to convince people it's the same as a the AVP and that it just works. Less people buying the AVP means more stock for the real nerds the ones that actually can and know what the device is.
@theeglobalcitizen He's not making a comparison of which one has better quality. He's simply showing people they can do the same things on the Quest platform. Which is great if you can't afford a vision pro and and want similar experiences. I demoed the Vision Pro and know how good the, displays, hand tracking, and passthrough is but this video is fine. If he came out and started telling you the Quest was better and he never tried it then I would understand your point but he didn't.
So i got enuf points to get either a quest 3, rayban meta ai glasses, or a sony alpha mirrorless DSLR. And guess what im not excited about any one of them. I was with meta raybans but converted siri into siri Ai with my airbuds and im ok with that. I don't need gaming goggles. In fact i don't need goggles period. I'm not even certain i need spatial computing. It's like I'm trying to find a solution to problems that don't exist. Best case just find a sensible use case. The DSLR will be just another thing i have to lug around. My iPhone takes pretty good shots anyway. Honestly who needs more hardware. I'm stuck. Which one should i get?
6:03 this part of the video says it all. A comparison video and he didn’t even try the device he’s comparing the Quest 3 to. How this video got past the editors is beyond me and I normally enjoy CNET tech uploads.
I have a quest 3 and it feels weird watching youtubers acting like the vision pro is the best and unique product. I have not seen them do anything I have not done in the quest 3. They make multiple videos too. Some of these people have the quest 3 as well and barely said anything about it. I. fairness, it seems only the passthrough is cleaner with the built in apps. It's not enough to justify almost $4000
The pass through is very similar. It darkens the screen. I turned the brightness all the way up. One cool thing is using the Digital Crown to go into an immersive environment. But it’s very similar to the Quest 3. Not a gem changer yet for me.
Quest software version v62 coming in gradually starting this last february 7th bring the option to import spatial video from iphone to Quest! One more point for Quest ;)
The clarity, at least on the Quest 2, isn’t good enough to do real work for any length of time. Eye strain sets in very quickly. And typing slows you down because pass through doesn’t work good at all. So I tend to think using the quest as a monitor replacement for work isn’t realistic. Hopefully in their next version.
@@YashrajThakor06 I find the resolution not perfect on quest 3 yet, it's definitely better than the Q2 (it's also A LOT clearer on the edge of the lenses) and can be use without trouble most of the time, but small text that would be readable on a normal screen can often be to pixelated in the headset. It does let you get 3 screens even from a laptop so I still thing it can be better than using just a normal PC in some cases.
@@Mfire33 sorry to say but i think you got a damaged product trust me on this it’s definitely not clearer as vision pro but the quest 3 have clear fonts nothing like that I have noticed even when staring at the text for a while. Lol
I know Word, PowerPoint and Excel is available in the Quest. Don’t use them myself since I prefer using Immersed to access all apps available on my computer instead. If you’re used to having 1-2 screens on your computer, imagine having 5-6 that you can resize and place in the air 🤩
This is just fine. However, if you have a MacBook and are interested in the Vision Pro, the integration for virtual displays and having the ecosystem inside the headset is just too superior
Is there a technical limitation that restricts the AVP to ONLY being able to provide basic SINGLE 'Screen Mirroring' for MacOS computers? It doesn't even give you a SECOND screen, it just provides a single 'larger' copy of the 'real' display?
And the quest 2 is amazing as well! An used one you can find for $100, I mean $100 dollar. This is crazy how people became so STUPID and STUPID when comes to technology. If a device that cost $100 does more than the a $3400 you must be out of your mind. I have tried both, the Apple Vision Pro and the Quest 2 ($100) and the Quest 2 had more tools like (Games and TONS of free Apps). And actually play PC VR games on it. And not cables attached. This is crazy! You are paying for the resolution, because after using the Apple Vision Pro I felt that my eyes would pop-out because I had to look what I need to click/activate vs you can do what I need and no need to look what you need to click on the Quest 2, plus you feel the feedback. Apple Vision Pro you pay over $3500 to click air with that cost of your eyes motions in witch I don't think it is normal and you may have later on eyes problems, where is the study that shows that you can keep moving your eyes like that? Will in the eyes muscles/tensions become larger like a bodybuilder? You know what I mean, Think like the astronauts, they still have to fake gravity so their body function, with Apple Vision Pro you are doing something un-natural to your eyes and hands.
@@ReptilianRichardRamirezWell for one the chip sets are not comparable since Quest uses a solid mobile chip set, but Apple Vision Pro has an M2 chip set. The Vision Pro has more power than my M1 iMac 😭😭
@@covertpuppytwo3857 that’s relative depending on what you’re after. Gaming wise I agree bc the Quest 3 is taking advantage of Meta’s gaming infrastructure which has been on the market for 5-6 years now. If you compare the AR functions and flow imma have to give it to the Vision Pro, the seamlessness of windows and apps with the addition of multitasking is eons ahead of the choppy quest 3 but the quest 3 is a solid vr headset! On a tech scale Vision Pro is a full on computer and the Quest is like a smart phone.
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The Quest does not limit you to 1 app at a time. But you have to move the first app away from the center spot before opening a second one or it will close the first one... I know that's the dumbest thing, I don't know who thought that was a good idea!
the idiot didn't even do a right job showcasing the strengths of the quest lmao.
Is it limited by quest 3 or by their default app?
Yeah I noticed that was incorrect too. The best way to open different apps is to just drag them from the dock to the space you want to see it in.
It's not dumb, 99% of people will want to focus on one app at the time. Your phone works the same way for example.
However you can drag a second app from the task bar directly onto a side window slot to skip the whole moving your first app thing.
Image quality sucks when you actually try to read text, nobody really wanna do productivity or read things in quest3.
the RUclips video doesn’t show you the actual quality so many people will easily get fooled.
And for those who had quest3, they never experienced a better display and see the day and night difference.
It’s like someone using 1080 display will be happy with it if he never tried 4K monitor.
But once you experienced 4K monitor? You never wanna go back.
The biggest problem for the Apple Vision Pro is that the Quest 3 is good enough
and you can workout on the quest 3.
have you tried vision pro?
@@wonderlandzhao1514 yes I took it home for a weekend, it’s really incredible. Better than the Quest 3 just not 7x better
@@wonderlandzhao1514Buy a Vision pro with your money and give him to try it 😂😂. I can see he mostly choose Quest 3 cuz because of games.
@@davidmthekidd 1) You definitly can 2) If you usage of a VR Headset is just having virtual displays on your environment, buy a bigger screen and save money xD
Quest 3 : For 15% of the price you get 90% of the functionalities + thousands of games !
And better field of view, that's one of the most important things for a good VR experience.
@@sharpvidtube so better field of view is more important than screen resolution and low latency
@@lesleyhaan116for some yes, personally I’d rather have both lmao
@@lesleyhaan116The resolution of the Quest 3 is fine. This isn’t the Rift.
@@lesleyhaan116 Quest 3 is 120hz so yes it also has lower latency
I’m very happy you made this video because this is what I’ve been thinking all week
whether you think or not you wouldn't have bought the Vision Pro😊😊
Many people cannot think by themselves so they have others justify their purchases for them. Just the psychology of how that was worded. Phew another RUclipsr just saved you from buying something you know nothing about.
I did the Vision Pro demo, then bought a Quest 3. It gives me everything I need to get started in VR (I’m a newbie) and cost way less. The focus on games also gives it more of a way to fit into my life at this point. I’m sure I’ll buy a different iteration of the Vision at some point down the road, but for now Meta has a winner that’s a good value.
I did this with the quest 2 and it's amazing using immersed. I can work about 2 hours on a charge.
How do you find reading text? It’s a little difficult for me to
Here's a cool video idea Cnet, 'Spatial Headsets are different price points' $400 for Xreal Air glasses - $500 for Meta Quest 3 - $1000 for some other VR - $3500 for Apple Vision Pro. Compare all of them and see the mutual cases
That would be an epic versus video.
Hololens 2 is what people need to be comparing the Vision Pro with.
@@CNET all you need to do is get the vision pro and compare it at the same time with what you just did there.
@@asifrasheed6 why the Hololens 2 is a real AR headset while the Vision Pro is a VR headset with Mixedreality passthrough capabilities.
i have experienced xReal for working productivity, it feels like still at beta, not stable, headache due to feels imbalanced, but very promising , few more tweaks for its balancing, then we have a desktop replacement
The Q3 has a higher field of view, higher fps/hz display options, an internal battery, better distributed weight , tones more VR/MR games, can be used with fitness apps/ u can walk/run around while using it, costs 7x less and haptic Feedback if u want with gaming etc. The AVP has better passthrough, higher resolution, eye tracking, more power (but probably all used up coz of the resolution) and an Oled display
Yeah, I was disappointed when Meta basically abandoned using OLED on their 'mainstream' headsets after the CV1... I actually still use my CV1 for any PC based VR games. I just still seem to prefer the benefits inherent with OLED more than the improved resolution of the Quest/Rift-S LCD displays!
Will it make me feel as nauseous as the original quest did? 🤢🤷🏾
@@Tonabillity That side has been improved in newer headsets like the Quest 3
@@HenleyBailey Thx
That’s good to know 👍🏽
@StreetPreacherr unfortunately oled had problems with mura and smearing that bothered some more than the enhanced contrast would offset. AVP also still has these problems with their displays, according to some reviews
aside for no eye-tracking and 3x less screen resolution, Quest 3 has actually more features, actually working hand tracking and full VR games - all for 1/7 the price. Don't let Apple marketing fool you. And btw, spatial video is nothing special, it's just good ol stereoscopic 3D...
The Quest has a screen resolution of 2064x2208 per-eye and the Apple has 3680x3140 per-eye... not sure where you get 3-times the resolution. Is it because the Apple has a smaller field of view?
As someone who dislikes apple as a company, is a diehard android fanboy, and owns a quest 3, I disagree with this tbh. The vision pro is actually pretty cool. Saying "3x the resolution of the quest 3" isnt a good way to put it. The vision pro has a PPD of around 60-70. For reference, the only other headset on the market right now that has that level of clarity is the 6000 dollar varjo enterprise headset that also requires like a 1 grand a month subscription to use, not to mention a VERY powerful computer. For even more reference, the quest 3 and quest 2 both have ppd's of about 25. It is said that a PPD of 70 is similar to just looking through a window, there are no pixels visible to the naked human eye. On top of that, the vision pro is oled, similar to the bigscreen beyond. This means that you get the deep blacks which make a HUGE difference in an immersive VR experience. Adding on even MORE to this is the M2 chip. Like it or not, the S24 ultra is the first android phone with a chip powerful enough to beat apple's silicon, and thats compared to their MOBILE chipset. The M2 chip is a chip used in enterprise workstations and is incredibly powerful. I am sure it is very clocked down to maintain battery life and heat in the vision pro, but the fact that they are able to pack such a powerful chip into a standalone headset is incredibly impressive. This probably means that the vision pro can run at its native resolution without a computer, unlike the quest 3, which needs a powerful computer to run at its full capability because the chipset just isnt powerful enough to run it at its full potential.
@@covertpuppytwo3857 sceen resolution works exponentially. For example, 1440p is actually almost double 1080p. Quest 3 and vision pro have almost the same fov
@@AutTheWizardthe M2 kind of does native resolution. It relies on fauviated rendering with the eye tracking. I'm not knocking it's but it's a similar amount of compute compared to a Q3 running full res all the time.
Let's not overlook the most important thing. No VR adult content with the APV.
you can add more browsers if you know how to sidequest and use apks on quest
6:05 I wonder what hes doing lol
That is why I dislike social media influencers, because they always hype Apple at the expense of other manufacturers.
It has some benefits, people that were so snobbish about the Quest 3, will soon have an AVP gathering dust😂
Mmm 🍎
Its like a mutual profits.. they get views.. manufacturers gets huge hypes.. do not just swallow any "tech youtuber" eventho they're big.. you already what i mean who they are..
Lol you wanna compare this to Vision Pro, come on mate. It’s not even close
@@TechWithShonHe made a compelling case
what .......they already announced iphone spatial video works on Q2 Q3 and Qpro the day before they released Vpro
I have been impressed by immersed - I usually have a large tv as my monitor but via immersed I can have multiple monitors with higher res virtual screens even larger than my 60 inch tv - makes davinci resolve much more usable
AND watch your wide screen TV 👁️😜
Thanks for this vid!
It's what I've been telling everyone. If you think the AVP is revolutionary, it means you probably haven't tried other VR headsets. This stuff all exists. None of it is new or done so well it warrants spending $3000 more. Thing doesn't even have an internal battery. Even your laptop would survive a bit unplugged
The most reasonable video on this topic I have seen.
One thing to clarify: Apple did not invent 3d video and of course all VR headsets including the Quest 3 can play 3d 180 degree VR videos. There are thousands of them. And also 3d live sports etc.
Finally someone posted a video who actually knows about the capabilities of the Quest 3. And no battery brick to carry around.
this is so far the best quest video I've seen.
Immersed with the Quest3 is the killer combo. Been using it for 3 months now. I spend 2-3 hours working this way everyday. RUclips VR is also a ton of fun. The other day I went paragliding over the great pyramids in full VR.
How was your yt vr experience? Last i checked it was lo-res. Fun but grainy. Maybe depends on the author source res?
Not a fan of Zuck but I love the Quest 3 !
Same here, but I think as soon as there's a decent rival, I'll be switching to it. Seems like the only sensible option at the moment.
@@sharpvidtube Yes I agree 100%!
Amazing video, I've just got my meta quest 3 as a present from a friend, I had so many questions and you answer them all in a really objective video, incredible, thank you!!!
Love my quest 3!
great guide, but surprised you did not mention Virtual Desktop.
I was focusing on free apps. Virtual Desktop is $19.99.
@@CNET oh okay good point.
Yeah, the Quest 2 is cheaper, but if you want an actual mixed-reality experience, you're not gonna get it with the grainy black-and-white security-camera passthrough on the Q2. It might be OK if you plan to work fully immersed.
That's a Quest 3
@@Kayzef2003 He refers to the Quest 2 as an option in the video, without mentioning the substantial downside that I referenced.
For games, I prefer the black and white passthrough, its less distracting. I asked if they could add it to the Quest 3, still waiting for a response😂
@@sharpvidtube options/accessibility features are always nice to have, but I think many people prefer color, doubt they will add it anytime soon
I use immersive when working from home. Add in a bobovr headstrap and remove the facepad and voila. Its like wearing glasses in stead of something pushing on your face all the time
I prefer quest 3 as the best headset that is cheap and great
I'm personally really looking forward to more competition using 4k per eye displays. One product in the pipeline is Visor by Immersed!!
Quest 3 isnt limited to do 1 app at a time. Since quest 1 you can do multitasking with apps
Yes. I mention that you can use some apps side by side. Not the games though.
@@CNETnot to seem rude but duh how can you play 2 games at a time
Spatial video is so misleading. From what I gather , that's just 3D video, that you can record with the Quest 3. Look at VR 180 3D videos on RUclips with the Quest 3, that's better than what I see recorded with the AVP, that doesn't have the wide view. I have the Qoocam EGO 3D camera, so I can look at the "spatial video" I made with that, on the Q3. Hopefully there will be a good VR 180 3D consumer camera out soon, my money will be going on that, not the AVP.
Spatial is another word for 6DOF
@@n9ne That has nothing to do with 3D video?
When I heard the Apple announcement I was excited that they made a breakthrough in volumetric video compression. Real let down that spatial video is just their brand of stereoscopic 3D
@@n9neApples spatial videos are misleading and not 6dof videos but only sidebyside 3d videos, not even 180° 3d videos.
You cannot record video with the quest 3. The difference with the AVP is the resolution. And eventually Apple will make it easy to edit spatially video. Try editing your qoocam 3d video or any other for that matter.
Quest V62 brings spatial video to headset. They included a demo in the "files" folder.
Awesome I gotta try it
I like using the Fluid app with quest 3
I'm using immersed now to watch content on my laptop. Works pretty well. My keyboard is a logitec. In my other room I have two PC's of which one is on now and I can access that pc through remote desktop on my laptop and open a second window to see it's content. Unfortunately I can't use my keyboard with remote desktop on my second pc. Just need to use the virtual keyboard from that computer.
Maybe I have to get used to controlling it, but in any case, it is much more fun to not need to move my laptop every time I want to use it, but do it with the Quest.
The only let down by using Quest 3 this way is the ppd is too low, Windows will look like 720p or lower depending on the scaling. If the Quest Pro had better displays and cameras the Vision Pro would have been moot. Still like that Apple entered the space even if I'm not personally a fan they tend to bring in more investment into a category.
They kinda had to go for higher resolution otherwise against the Quest 3 it would simply be DOA. But it's clear what that costs to implement displays like this in a stand alone headset is practically out of the consumer market price-wise
Great job with the video, helped a lot and my decision process
I suggest first using the AVP, then make this kind of video.
This was not a versus video. Just showing how you can enjoy spatial computing on the Quest 3 since that’s a new term we’re all coming to terms with.
Do the spatial videos you download to the Quest 3 play in 3D?
No mention of virtual desktop?
I was saying the sameting you was saying so when I saw your video I instantly watched it I use my Macbook Pro through Virtual Desktop and also have immersed but i haven't set it up yet as I have Virtual Desktop and inhave multiple Music Production DAWs like Virtuoso which I use in Mixed Reality mode and Korg Gadget VR and I also have alot of Mixed Reality instruments like pianos guitars etc i play live into Logic Pro X
Sounds like fun!
Yeah, it's also $3000+ more.
I used Linux with immersed too. 3 virtual monitors.
The quest is missing 1 huge thing... The apple logo. To some people, that's the only thing that matters.
Being able to admit that apple does SOME things better as a predominantly android user, is maturing
@@jamesramsey2400 One thing they do better than anybody else is marketing. To make you feel important or elite because of a logo is brilliant.
If it is, I bet its cost will be at least $999.
Great video!
I’m a big Apple fan. However I meta quest and I can’t see myself paying what Apple wants for the Vision Pro. The Meta quest is good enough.
Using the vision pro is so much better tbh
So the way to go is to wait for the future quest 4 so that It will bring all the stuff the apple vision is now getting hyped for, for less of a quarter of the price.
That’s my plan 😂
This was a great video, well done 👏
They need to include spatial snapping in a new version. i want to be able to snap a window on a room and walk away and see other windows that i have snapped previously on other locations inside my house.
Virtual Desktop does everything you just explained without any of the limitations described in this video. Even better, it supports Apple MAC O/S
Exactly
It’s $19.99. I was showing off free apps. This video was about spatial computing without spending a fortune. 🥠
virtual desktop does even more in some aspect, on top of being very regularly updated and the developer really liste a lot to the community! If you are going for a quest 3 with the goal of saving up 3000$, I think it's only fair to mention a 20$ app that can pretty much do everything you need. :) maybe mention it next ;)@@CNET
But Virtual Desktop does not support multi-window viewing compared to Immersed and Meta Workroom Horizon app…that’s a dealbreaker for many
@@CNET You are already buying a $400-$500 VR headset and you worry about $19.99. Your logic is flawed. Not sure if you're still working at CNET but if I was the boss, you would be without a job right now.
Great video
Not a bad overview! Would've been nice to point out some of the issues, e.g. you mentioned the RUclips app, which is capped at very poor quality.
Nope. There was update 2 weks ago. Now is perfectly sharp a new.
@ Oh nice, yeah that’s much better! I was able to play up to 4K. Maybe still no 8K? I’ll have to do a better check later.
@@mikeyr5275What do you need 8k for? BTW to theoretically use 8k would have to have a better processor than it currently has, plus only very expensive TVs can do that
Naked hands as interface is a improvement like it was touchscreen in smartphones. I dont know why other brands doesnt implement it, there is open source code in OpenCV to do it.
How can you put that title and compare them without having tried the Vision Pro?
Hmm, this wasn’t bad actually, surprisingly thorough. However, when discussing using a Mac with Immersed, you didn’t mention the fact that what it’s actually doing in this case is basically doing a screen recording via SharePlay. It has a lot of limitations on resolution and frame rate unless you pay for a higher tier, and further because its a screen recording you are transmitting everything you see on your screens over wifi and also to Immersed apps servers and so there is a risk when entering banking information or passwords, etc. It’s possible that this limitation is only for the iPhone/ipad streaming, but i was under the impression it worked that way for Mac as well. If thats the case it’s a bit dangerous and irresponsible to not mention these things. I’m not being a nanny, I’m pointing that this is a MAJOR security thing that should get discussed when doing stuff like this
i don’t think you tried vision pro yet
He said he never tried it. That shouldn't matter because he's doing a Quest video.
I’ve just started using a meta quest 2 and the immersed app and find that it’s difficult to read text or that it’s only easy to read text when it’s in the middle of the lens or in the “sweet spot”
If meta updates pc oculus app so the dash can be passthrough now that it can be passed thru on pc and airlink, it would essentially be a windows avp
Very cool spacial computing looks like it can help with focus and productivity.
"Spatial Computing" is nothing new. It's just VR and AR.
Word is that Meta is taking notes on the Vision Pro feedback. Ironically, Apple makes the best headstrap for the Quest 3. Solo knit band on Quest 3 is hands down most comfortable headstrap for Quest 3.
I was just going to make this exact video as my first RUclips video....
Do it! I'm sure your take would be a little different. E.g. maybe you would show more realistic scenarios, or have put more time in.
Also you can open 3 apps on quest 3, he said the wrong thing
ofc avp has better screen resolution, but on quest 3 i can:
-i used to use immersed for "spatial computing" xd with my pc up to 5 screens, that u can scale and move even if i dont have that much in real life, i can create virtual ones and my pc detect it as a new screens
-then i use fluid to do the same but only with my quest standalone, i can also leave screens arround my around my living room and they pin in the places i put them like the avp, one on my tv, another in my computer, another in the fridge, etc or surround myself with them, i think its up to 5 too that u can scale (+3 of the main menu), avp is up to 12 screens
-for media i use bigscreen to watch movies in services or skybox if i want to watch 3d videos or images,
(btw theres a ia owl3d for pc that turns normal images or videos into 3d, i was getting fun with that, the result its really nice in half-sbs format for quest)
-spatial photos (the same that apple) will be on quest too, now its on beta
I have a quest, the comparison is dumb. the quest software is nowhere near as good as apple's. you can't even easily load android apps on the quest. you can sort of make it work if you're very interested in the tech but the average person is not going to do any of this.
Will the quest three make me as nauseous as the original quest did, or have they gotten better?
Not to mention that you can play actual games plus workout on the quest 3, and, quest 3 has SUPER RUMBLE!
I am waiting for Pocco to launch it's VR. 💥 HEADSHOT💥
Wait? you can connect all your apple products to a Meta Quest 3?! whats the point of vision pro?! no doubt apple will try quash this soon enough
you get it.
Next time I'm sure meta will produce two version: Quest 4 for about $500, and Quest 4 Pro for about $999. The Quest 4 Pro will have the same resolution of the the Apple vison Pro. I will wait for the Quest 4 Pro (likely would ben for Christmas).
Or just get Samsung's. Will interface better with your Google ecosystem than Meta's will.
Yeah with no future os and software support, easy to break, missing stock parts after certain year, difficulties finding global official repair location, broken and laggy overtime
If it’s really that good and close to the Vision Pro why is it that cheap compared to the other one? 👀
Out of all the mice in the world that can connect to the Quest 3 why should anyone ever chose the Apple Magic Mouse - generally considered the worst mouse ever designed?
Because I was demonstrating how you can connect all of your Apple devices.
@@CNET This was a rhetorical question. It really doesn't matter which mouse you use for your illustrative purpose. I just wanted to dunk on the Magic Mouse. Hope you didn't take my comment to personal.
How big can a screen be? I believe the Vision Pro can have a 100 foot screen and an infinite number of screens. How big and how many on the quest 3?
I can watch movies, do internet stuff in IMAX screen size on Quest 3.
Finally! Someone said it. Quest 3 can do "spitial computing too! Without the overhype from apple
Apple is the type that would call fire something new and then claim they invented fire.
Thank you for this Video, i really Appreciate this, but i think you should compare them side by side, we all know there are things Apple Vision Pro does better than quest 3, but the Big question will be, IS THAT FUNCTION WORTH $3500?
Apple is the king of Presentation and also those RUclips influencers thats hype up device to get more views on their channel and deceive people to spend more when they don't really need to do so.
6:05 kinda tells me all I need to know. If CNET hasn't sent him a Vision Pro to compare the experiences, how on earth can you honestly tell me the difference is or isn't worth it. In all other areas of my life having someone tell me "I've not tried the alternative but what I have is just as good" doesn't work for me.
Apple didn't send any headsets out to anyone who has experience with VR. They're terrified of direct comparisons.
This isn't a direct compare and contrast, it's just showing that "SpAtIaL cOmPuTiNg" (god, how many focus groups did Apple put that through?) isn't exclusive to Vision Pro. If you want reviews from complimentary headsets sent out you're only going to get them from the Apple approved influencers. At least for now those are the only people I've seen who were given advanced access to the device to have reviews ready on launch. Which, to me, is really suspicious.
@@ItDaBizthat's not totally true. While I don't know the back story, but first of all, there are almost no experienced VR users that are also popular tech reviewers. While it's true that everyone that reviewing it saying how they loved VR and tested everything, that's not true most of the time. The only popular tech reviewer that I know of who used VR semiregularly is Linus Tech Tips. He never received his headset because of his relationship with Apple.
and by the way, experienced VR users loving this thing. You can look up VR veterans review of the headset. Yeah most of them say that we are using VR for either VR gaming or social experience, both is almost non-existent in Apple's headset. But they also admit that VisionOS is top-notch and display-passthrough quality is on another level. Even the problems with comfort are kinda overblown by people who never wore a VR headset before longer than one hour.
I think that you don't need to worry about this device, you've probably never thought of VR before, and now hype've started, is it enough to justify it for you? If you're on the fence - just wait or give up on it or at least just try any friend's headset yourself
Thank you ! This really needed to be stated. Vision pro is nothing revolutionary. It is well executed ... but not that well, therefore a 3500$ price tag is certainly too much. It is true that the Quest 3 is not that well executed but the main problems are more on software (horizon) than the hardware itself. I also see that the main use cases can be executed on both, so there's not that much incentive to buy the vision pro.
It's basically only priced that high because it's over 4k per eye and it's an apple device. No other reason.
For a few $$$ more, Meta could've included a nice head strap with the Q3, that would've made a big difference. I think that's probably the main thing Apple got right😂 AVP not having controllers seems as insane. VR gaming is great fun, no idea why they have ignored the gamers, who often have a large budget.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 what about the 12 millisecond latency or the M2 cpu that’s whey faster than the quest 3s cpu or the higher resolution cameras
@@lesleyhaan116 So with Apple's better latency and M2 CPU... can you run PCVR apps better than the Quest 3? Oh wait, the Apple doesn't support PCVR. Never mind... But I guess MS-Word starts up a millisecond faster than the Quest... ok.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Aside from the displays, it has two separate SOC's, 13 cameras, 6 mics, all kinds of different sensors. There's a lot of expensive tech packed in there. Not saying its a bargain at $3500, but the Quest 3 has over $400 worth of parts and Meta is selling it at a big loss.
I listened to this video and bought a quest 3. It sucks compared to my vision pro lol. I’m returning my quest 3 today. Personally I much more enjoy the experience on the AVP.
sucks in what way?
the Meta Quest 3. This VR headset can do the same things as the vision pro, but for Far less money. Why is everybody treating the Apple vision pro as a new milestone? it's been done already!
I do a lot of mix reality with the quest but nobody wanted to use the quest mix reality and monitors because of clarity
Monitors look clear to me. I had no issues seeing text or editing videos in pass through. You just gotta move the screen to a comfortable distance.
The pass through is weak but vr work space is fine short term.
Virtual desktop works to
Yes, but it’s not free.
Would be cool I just don't think my work would allow me to download the app necessary for it to function
Excellent work
Well done 👍
*opera gx
Opera and opera gx are different browsers
Netflix is broken for me on the MQ3. App and browser doesn’t work.
Shhhhhh they are trying to convince people it's the same as a the AVP and that it just works. Less people buying the AVP means more stock for the real nerds the ones that actually can and know what the device is.
How’s the video editing experience? I was hoping for multiple adobe premiere docks/windows open while editing.
It looked crisp and clean and the audio played through the headset. I didn’t try using multiple windows from Premiere but I’ll give it a go.
the view with the outside is really limited tho
not really some times I forget my headest is on my head
pensé que era una video sobre las implicaciones de salud y éticas del uso de apple vision pro
Can I watch my HTC EVO 3D from 2012 videos as well? 😂
Yes, it seems spatial video is BS, it's just 3D video. The Quest 3 is OK for viewing that.
Good video 👍🏾
Why would CNET get someone that hasn’t actually tried the Vision Pro to do this video though smh 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Why does that matter when he's making a Quest video?
@@MobileDecay because he’s clearly comparing it to the Vision Pro maybe ?
@theeglobalcitizen He's not making a comparison of which one has better quality. He's simply showing people they can do the same things on the Quest platform. Which is great if you can't afford a vision pro and and want similar experiences. I demoed the Vision Pro and know how good the, displays, hand tracking, and passthrough is but this video is fine. If he came out and started telling you the Quest was better and he never tried it then I would understand your point but he didn't.
6:05, oh my ghad. lmao
Never do that action while wearing a VR. 🤣
So you have motion sicknes ?
So i got enuf points to get either a quest 3, rayban meta ai glasses, or a sony alpha mirrorless DSLR. And guess what im not excited about any one of them. I was with meta raybans but converted siri into siri Ai with my airbuds and im ok with that. I don't need gaming goggles. In fact i don't need goggles period. I'm not even certain i need spatial computing. It's like I'm trying to find a solution to problems that don't exist. Best case just find a sensible use case. The DSLR will be just another thing i have to lug around. My iPhone takes pretty good shots anyway. Honestly who needs more hardware. I'm stuck. Which one should i get?
Take your iPhone/camera on a trip with your points and make some memories.
6:03 this part of the video says it all. A comparison video and he didn’t even try the device he’s comparing the Quest 3 to. How this video got past the editors is beyond me and I normally enjoy CNET tech uploads.
I have a quest 3 and it feels weird watching youtubers acting like the vision pro is the best and unique product. I have not seen them do anything I have not done in the quest 3. They make multiple videos too. Some of these people have the quest 3 as well and barely said anything about it. I. fairness, it seems only the passthrough is cleaner with the built in apps. It's not enough to justify almost $4000
The pass through is very similar. It darkens the screen. I turned the brightness all the way up. One cool thing is using the Digital Crown to go into an immersive environment. But it’s very similar to the Quest 3. Not a gem changer yet for me.
Quest software version v62 coming in gradually starting this last february 7th bring the option to import spatial video from iphone to Quest! One more point for Quest ;)
My Quest 3 now has an option for Live Streaming which is pretty cool
The clarity, at least on the Quest 2, isn’t good enough to do real work for any length of time. Eye strain sets in very quickly. And typing slows you down because pass through doesn’t work good at all. So I tend to think using the quest as a monitor replacement for work isn’t realistic. Hopefully in their next version.
It’s clear and crisp on quest 3 you can do general productivity work.
@@YashrajThakor06 I find the resolution not perfect on quest 3 yet, it's definitely better than the Q2 (it's also A LOT clearer on the edge of the lenses) and can be use without trouble most of the time, but small text that would be readable on a normal screen can often be to pixelated in the headset. It does let you get 3 screens even from a laptop so I still thing it can be better than using just a normal PC in some cases.
@@Mfire33 sorry to say but i think you got a damaged product trust me on this it’s definitely not clearer as vision pro but the quest 3 have clear fonts nothing like that I have noticed even when staring at the text for a while. Lol
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but what's the point?
Can you use Microsoft Excel, outlook, teams in here? Would love to be able to have multiple screens for Excel
You can log into a Microsoft account. I’m able to use Google Docs the same way I normally do.
@@CNET He asked about Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, and Teams. He didn't ask about Google Docs.
I know Word, PowerPoint and Excel is available in the Quest. Don’t use them myself since I prefer using Immersed to access all apps available on my computer instead. If you’re used to having 1-2 screens on your computer, imagine having 5-6 that you can resize and place in the air 🤩
Hmmm interesting , def might do this lol
This is just fine. However, if you have a MacBook and are interested in the Vision Pro, the integration for virtual displays and having the ecosystem inside the headset is just too superior
Is there a technical limitation that restricts the AVP to ONLY being able to provide basic SINGLE 'Screen Mirroring' for MacOS computers? It doesn't even give you a SECOND screen, it just provides a single 'larger' copy of the 'real' display?
And the quest 2 is amazing as well! An used one you can find for $100, I mean $100 dollar. This is crazy how people became so STUPID and STUPID when comes to technology. If a device that cost $100 does more than the a $3400 you must be out of your mind. I have tried both, the Apple Vision Pro and the Quest 2 ($100) and the Quest 2 had more tools like (Games and TONS of free Apps). And actually play PC VR games on it. And not cables attached. This is crazy! You are paying for the resolution, because after using the Apple Vision Pro I felt that my eyes would pop-out because I had to look what I need to click/activate vs you can do what I need and no need to look what you need to click on the Quest 2, plus you feel the feedback. Apple Vision Pro you pay over $3500 to click air with that cost of your eyes motions in witch I don't think it is normal and you may have later on eyes problems, where is the study that shows that you can keep moving your eyes like that? Will in the eyes muscles/tensions become larger like a bodybuilder? You know what I mean, Think like the astronauts, they still have to fake gravity so their body function, with Apple Vision Pro you are doing something un-natural to your eyes and hands.
I was with you until you said you hadn't tried the Vision Pro 🤦♂
The Vision Pro is light years ahead of the Quest 3. It is not even close.
Lol.. How so?
@@ReptilianRichardRamirezWell for one the chip sets are not comparable since Quest uses a solid mobile chip set, but Apple Vision Pro has an M2 chip set. The Vision Pro has more power than my M1 iMac 😭😭
And yet, you can do more with the Quest 3!
the price isn't even close either XD
@@covertpuppytwo3857 that’s relative depending on what you’re after. Gaming wise I agree bc the Quest 3 is taking advantage of Meta’s gaming infrastructure which has been on the market for 5-6 years now. If you compare the AR functions and flow imma have to give it to the Vision Pro, the seamlessness of windows and apps with the addition of multitasking is eons ahead of the choppy quest 3 but the quest 3 is a solid vr headset! On a tech scale Vision Pro is a full on computer and the Quest is like a smart phone.