Damn this intro track might be my favorite so far from you. So fucking well done and this makes me so excited for mine to ship and arrive. Great sounds/tones are wonderful, but good music is even better.
Also, thanks for sharing some of the ox stomp settings! I plan on using that for my direct rig as well and can't wait to try them. Would love to see a deep dive in how you set yours up with all the extra things it can do as well, but it's also fun to explore (when it actually connects to the app at least).
Hey Mark! Have you thought about doing a 2024 pedalboard vid, with all your current essential effects that you would want in a direct rig? Or even a list of what ones are your favorites at the moment? Curious which ones have your favor right now!
I can’t say enough how good this entire demo is, from the writing , playing, deep dive. I’m sold! Such a killer sound and intuitive product. Definitely a step above the rest with the unique features in the eq and outputs.
Sounds good. I’ve been building a bunch of different preamp circuits over the past couple years and some really deliver the goods. I am drowning in killer pedal circuits these days. More than I could ever use. For those who like to tinker (and can’t get their hands/wallet on hyped up pedals like this), I recommend trying your hand at DIY pedal building. It offers more bang for your buck and also allows you to customize your sound. Thanks for the vid. 🤙
I'm not someone who has a good understanding of what eq does a lot of the time, but you did a great job explaining it I think. especially with bass vs depth.
Great point on the output options for future preamp or “amp in the box” type pedals. Only other pedal i’ve seen have this feature of late was the Diezel VH4 pedal. Love the videos as always 🤘
Origin Effects does a good job with the Revival drive for this sort of thing. It's done via a 3 way switch, however. I just preordered this thing. Sounds pretty cool.
Ive actually really been meaning to revisit the revival drive lineup in the modern Ox Stomp context. Last time I used one it was still "as a drive pedal" and it never really connected with me in that context but I really want to dig through the origin amp recreation lineup now.
I've been using the Origin Magma57 with the OX Stomp for a while. The Magma is an insanely awesome thing. So much so that I replaced my OX with a CBA Genloss mk2 and I'm running a strange mix between direct amp-to-tapemachine thing and I love that sound so freaking much. Also could not deal with the UA app.
The UA app’s biggest issue is that the ox stomp’s workflow is just so much worse than the ox box’s. The amp topper’s iPad app is like my favorite app and is half the reason I got an ox. The UAFX app is so much worse.
I love what I heard. Hate that it has a shared eq. But, also love that it’s in the “Hiwatt lineage” of amps. So I mean could still be a fun pedal platform amp for me.
To be fair the original has the exact same shared control set so it’s just being faithful. And channel A is very much a “high headroom pedal platform” kind of voicing and it holds true even in the solid state format.
@@markjohnstonofficial yeah that’s super cool. I love that. I started looking at demos of the actual amp and I’m starting to get obsessed with them. Lol. All their stuff sounds incredible. Plus the aesthetics are really cool.
Does anything come close to this on the dirt side? I had one and sold it pretty quick cause the clean had some crackly aspect if it was pushed even a little. You can hear it once the gain is above noon. Around 18:50 its super apparent to my ear, at least. Like theres a parallel path distorting only in the high end? At any rate i liked the drive side but couldnt unhear the pushed clean crackle. Sad.😢
@Mark Johnston: I love the channel but my wallet is finding it hard to keep up. In terms of preamp pedals; I also saw you be very positive about the milkman stereo amp. Do you prefer that over this one? for whom would you recommend the one or the other?
Sounds great but I hate shared eq! I like to be able to refine my clean and dirt each with their own best eq settings. I do find a great preamp pedal makes a modeler work to its peak.
Welp, even if you aren't... This is yet another pedal I couldn't help but purchase for use in my bass rig because of you. The Mother Special Edition in Hammered Green Finish will be here Monday. I'm sure it's going to sound great in conjunction with the Meris LVX & Mercury X 🔥🔥🔥
Geez just released today and already sold out? Wonder how many they made. I’m not even familiar with this amp builder. Though admittedly my daily “research” generally skews more toward pedals.
Listening to the pedal (albeit with youtube compression etc) it sounds good. But the comments you made about eq curves and double curves sounds like complete nonsense - you said the company is trying to solve that problem. The reality is all music, studio or live, has countless “eq curves” on it - every pedal except the cleanest of the clean affects the eq even a tube screamer is an eq curve - certainly every part of the single chain from pickup to every pedal to preamp, power amp, and speaker type/size, all eq’s and compression and every insert afterwards will effect the “eq curve” so i think it’s nonsense because the mother pedal can reduce the chance of inadvertently changing the eq when using a different setup that doesn’t involve a preamp pedal like this, it is completely irrelevant to how we produce guitar tones for listeners to listen to. That being said, the pedal sounds fine, I’m just commenting on what i think is a ridiculous selling point of this because it feels like that is meant to mystify a potential buyer when in reality it is completely irrelevant unless maybe a listener can press buttons on spotify to listen to different parts of the many of a guitar signal chain - which we can’t and no one would do.
It sounds like you didnt actually listen to the sound samples where I switch between the two outputs in both the DI and the front of amp configurations because, in my opinion, the difference is pretty striking. Additionally, I am aware that every sound in a recording / live environment is processed through myriad EQs along the way but "an EQ" =/= "an amp curve EQ" and the "double curve" sound is pretty evident when you listen to the pwr amp out into the front of the Milkman amp at the end. It's a similar experience to running an amp sim with a cabinet EQ curve engaged into the front of an amp / other IR loader. Doubling up on the curve of a speaker sim has a jarring and unnatural effect and the two outputs here seek to solve for a similar issue but by way of optimizing this pedal into specific destinations.
@@markjohnstonofficial No I think you missed my point. Of course I agree that doubling up of the speaker curve is jarring - but the talk you gave about what you call an amp curve eq is pretty irrelevant in the supermajority of the situations, unless you are going to to assume an non ideal use case like you just described. Any inadvertent eq isn’t helpful but at the end of the day there is a signal chain from hitting the string all to someone’s ear and the concept that you’re suggesting: that it is a great thing that you can avoid what you call a double curve is really nonsense unless someone plugging in things without understanding what they’re doing. I didn’t say that there isn’t a difference where you sample/listen to a guitar signal - i said the opposite, but that it would only matter if we stopped right there to listen, because of the various sound treatment at every single step of the process which is essentially an eq curve as you say. There’s no mystical amp eq curve that’s not comparable to any other eq curve (yes there are non linearities/dist etc) but my point it is every time the sound is changed (at every step with every pedal) that is an eq curve - so marketing this one to avoid the “problem” you pointed out is ridiculous to me. That being said, nothing I’m writing here is personal, I’m just giving my opinion that what you said is meaningless in actual practical application of how we’d use this pedal vs any other. You like the sound, I agree it’s fine/good, you put a lot of time into your video productions, i appreciate that. But you said something that sound meaningless so Ive just commented so other viewers hopefully wont think what you’ve said is meaningful in application, or at least think about it for a min. (for clarity: “solving for a problem” isnt accurate imo)
@@robdavies9478 not sure i said anything was pointless. what i said was the way the video describes things re an eq curve is meaningless irl and likely confuses people (ie sounds like marketing language designed to confuse ppl). if you read my comments closely you can see my explanation of why i believe this. I would like to make it clear that my criticism is on the video, and how that part is portrayed in the video - not about the pedal or either company. Science is an awesome company in particular - i just heard someone overemphasizing a feature sounding like a marketing person in a way which is very salesman like imo - and i think many ppl who aren’t that familiar with a pedal like this might be getting confused needlessly. You may disagree, but for clarity I am not referring to the pedal, but rather how it is talked about it the video.
@@robdavies9478 i said right at the beginning that the “comments are nonsense”. you’re talking about the pedal. i’m talking about how the pedal is presented in this video and talking about double eq curves in that way. not sure how i can make it more clear to you that my criticism is in the way it’s discussed and presented in the video but at least it’s written there if you want to read it.
Stunning intro track, Mark!
Ahh thanks homie. Someday we need to finally do a track together.
Damn this intro track might be my favorite so far from you. So fucking well done and this makes me so excited for mine to ship and arrive.
Great sounds/tones are wonderful, but good music is even better.
Also, thanks for sharing some of the ox stomp settings! I plan on using that for my direct rig as well and can't wait to try them. Would love to see a deep dive in how you set yours up with all the extra things it can do as well, but it's also fun to explore (when it actually connects to the app at least).
That last sentence of yours should be pinned on top of the comments under EVERY music related video!
Most FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH!
Hey Mark! Have you thought about doing a 2024 pedalboard vid, with all your current essential effects that you would want in a direct rig? Or even a list of what ones are your favorites at the moment? Curious which ones have your favor right now!
I'd like to see this as well.
Same! As much as individual pedal demos are fun, I learn much more from rig rundowns.
I can’t say enough how good this entire demo is, from the writing , playing, deep dive. I’m sold! Such a killer sound and intuitive product. Definitely a step above the rest with the unique features in the eq and outputs.
Sounds good. I’ve been building a bunch of different preamp circuits over the past couple years and some really deliver the goods. I am drowning in killer pedal circuits these days. More than I could ever use. For those who like to tinker (and can’t get their hands/wallet on hyped up pedals like this), I recommend trying your hand at DIY pedal building. It offers more bang for your buck and also allows you to customize your sound. Thanks for the vid. 🤙
I own a Science Mother 100W tube amp and I love it. Maybe need this as well.
Run a mother preamp into a mother amp fx return and have motherception
I've always wanted to try out one of their amps, this looks sick
I'm not someone who has a good understanding of what eq does a lot of the time, but you did a great job explaining it I think. especially with bass vs depth.
Damn!! That intro track is sooooo good! Your videos keep getting better and better.
_Hoe-Lee-Fuckballz,_ your playing on that intro track is pristine and good and *swee heat,* sir!
This is probably ny favorite demo track ive heard from you. Im biased towards ambient post rock and this is killer
Love the video, love your playing! Can both outputs be used simultaneously? I have Wet/Dry plans…😊
Just found this channel. That intro track was so rad. Liked, subbed
Am I thinking right that this has a Ridley Scott Alien vibe?! Wish there was an LV223 reference somewhere. 😂
first,, i love your current video aspect ratio
The ultra wide really just makes a mix sound bigger. There’s no getting around it.
Dude sick intro song. Has some Circa Survive-Juturna lil bit of Hopesfall-The Satellite Years. Thank you for the feels of that nostalgia.
Great point on the output options for future preamp or “amp in the box” type pedals. Only other pedal i’ve seen have this feature of late was the Diezel VH4 pedal. Love the videos as always 🤘
Origin Effects does a good job with the Revival drive for this sort of thing. It's done via a 3 way switch, however. I just preordered this thing. Sounds pretty cool.
Ive actually really been meaning to revisit the revival drive lineup in the modern Ox Stomp context. Last time I used one it was still "as a drive pedal" and it never really connected with me in that context but I really want to dig through the origin amp recreation lineup now.
I've been using the Origin Magma57 with the OX Stomp for a while. The Magma is an insanely awesome thing.
So much so that I replaced my OX with a CBA Genloss mk2 and I'm running a strange mix between direct amp-to-tapemachine thing and I love that sound so freaking much.
Also could not deal with the UA app.
The UA app’s biggest issue is that the ox stomp’s workflow is just so much worse than the ox box’s. The amp topper’s iPad app is like my favorite app and is half the reason I got an ox. The UAFX app is so much worse.
Excellent job Mark, excellent pedal...have to hold off on this pedal though as I've just bought the trio of newish UAFX pedals.
we out here for Heavy Mark. This pedal is so good it's not even funny
Definitely some of the heaviest I’ve done so far. And once I get my hands on a mother 50 we’re NEVER. GOING. BACK.
I for one welcome our Heavy Mark overlord.
I love what I heard. Hate that it has a shared eq. But, also love that it’s in the “Hiwatt lineage” of amps. So I mean could still be a fun pedal platform amp for me.
To be fair the original has the exact same shared control set so it’s just being faithful. And channel A is very much a “high headroom pedal platform” kind of voicing and it holds true even in the solid state format.
@@markjohnstonofficial yeah that’s super cool. I love that. I started looking at demos of the actual amp and I’m starting to get obsessed with them. Lol. All their stuff sounds incredible. Plus the aesthetics are really cool.
Sold out !
Breathtaking intro as always, you are a talented boyyyy
Ahh thank you 🙏🏻
Another killer intro track. And another killer pedal/collab from John Snyder.
super cool intro song
Rad intro jam, my man.
Thank you! Probably my favorite mix I've done for this channel. The Mother just sounds MASSIVE
Love the arrangement, good way to start the work day
Does anything come close to this on the dirt side? I had one and sold it pretty quick cause the clean had some crackly aspect if it was pushed even a little. You can hear it once the gain is above noon. Around 18:50 its super apparent to my ear, at least. Like theres a parallel path distorting only in the high end?
At any rate i liked the drive side but couldnt unhear the pushed clean crackle. Sad.😢
Crushing take!
@Mark Johnston: I love the channel but my wallet is finding it hard to keep up. In terms of preamp pedals; I also saw you be very positive about the milkman stereo amp. Do you prefer that over this one? for whom would you recommend the one or the other?
Sounds great but I hate shared eq! I like to be able to refine my clean and dirt each with their own best eq settings. I do find a great preamp pedal makes a modeler work to its peak.
Mark, are you playing the Bass through the Mother in the intro song as well?
Welp, even if you aren't... This is yet another pedal I couldn't help but purchase for use in my bass rig because of you. The Mother Special Edition in Hammered Green Finish will be here Monday. I'm sure it's going to sound great in conjunction with the Meris LVX & Mercury X 🔥🔥🔥
A Kaisen!
Geez just released today and already sold out? Wonder how many they made. I’m not even familiar with this amp builder. Though admittedly my daily “research” generally skews more toward pedals.
It’s the EAE effect man. Just good stuff.
Sounds immense, Immediately sold out. The lion will have to do for now! Great demo.
Good news is that the lion is phenomenal. Mine has been out on loan to a friend and I miss it dearly
@@markjohnstonofficial I was shook when I first plugged it in with how quickly I got my sound out of it. It has put my helix on the gear selling list.
all this blasphemy out the gate with the Preamp MkII sitting right there, but ill hear you out 🙏😂
Edit: Ok its pretty damn good.
I think I make a strong case for the point I am making here
Cba preamp can't chug 🤷♂️
@@markjohnstonofficial I heard you out and I must say, it’s damn good.
@@markjohnstonofficial fair point.
True. Beyond that I think the preamp mkii always serves better as a drive pedal than an amp replacement.
Too bad it’s sold out. How untimely 😐
You can pre-order it on reverb
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Intro sounds like God Is An Astronaut
Ehh.
Yeah, likewise. Just got mine in the mail, played with it for an hour - not for me.
Well... Not the best.... Just ok average amp. Little bit boring even. Nothing special. 🤷
And not so versatile as was claimed....
Listening to the pedal (albeit with youtube compression etc) it sounds good. But the comments you made about eq curves and double curves sounds like complete nonsense - you said the company is trying to solve that problem. The reality is all music, studio or live, has countless
“eq curves” on it - every pedal except the cleanest of the clean affects the eq even a tube screamer is an eq curve - certainly every part of the single chain from pickup to every pedal to preamp, power amp, and speaker type/size, all eq’s and compression and every insert afterwards will effect the “eq curve” so i think it’s nonsense because the mother pedal can reduce the chance of inadvertently changing the eq when using a different setup that doesn’t involve a preamp pedal like this, it is completely irrelevant to how we produce guitar tones for listeners to listen to. That being said, the pedal sounds fine, I’m just commenting on what i think is a ridiculous selling point of this because it feels like that is meant to mystify a potential buyer when in reality it is completely irrelevant unless maybe a listener can press buttons on spotify to listen to different parts of the many of a guitar signal chain - which we can’t and no one would do.
It sounds like you didnt actually listen to the sound samples where I switch between the two outputs in both the DI and the front of amp configurations because, in my opinion, the difference is pretty striking. Additionally, I am aware that every sound in a recording / live environment is processed through myriad EQs along the way but "an EQ" =/= "an amp curve EQ" and the "double curve" sound is pretty evident when you listen to the pwr amp out into the front of the Milkman amp at the end. It's a similar experience to running an amp sim with a cabinet EQ curve engaged into the front of an amp / other IR loader. Doubling up on the curve of a speaker sim has a jarring and unnatural effect and the two outputs here seek to solve for a similar issue but by way of optimizing this pedal into specific destinations.
@@markjohnstonofficial No I think you missed my point. Of course I agree that doubling up of the speaker curve is jarring - but the talk you gave about what you call an amp curve eq is pretty irrelevant in the supermajority of the situations, unless you are going to to assume an non ideal use case like you just described. Any inadvertent eq isn’t helpful but at the end of the day there is a signal chain from hitting the string all to someone’s ear and the concept that you’re suggesting: that it is a great thing that you can avoid what you call a double curve is really nonsense unless someone plugging in things without understanding what they’re doing. I didn’t say that there isn’t a difference where you sample/listen to a guitar signal - i said the opposite, but that it would only matter if we stopped right there to listen, because of the various sound treatment at every single step of the process which is essentially an eq curve as you say. There’s no mystical amp eq curve that’s not comparable to any other eq curve (yes there are non linearities/dist etc) but my point it is every time the sound is changed (at every step with every pedal) that is an eq curve - so marketing this one to avoid the “problem” you pointed out is ridiculous to me. That being said, nothing I’m writing here is personal, I’m just giving my opinion that what you said is meaningless in actual practical application of how we’d use this pedal vs any other. You like the sound, I agree it’s fine/good, you put a lot of time into your video productions, i appreciate that. But you said something that sound meaningless so Ive just commented so other viewers hopefully wont think what you’ve said is meaningful in application, or at least think about it for a min. (for clarity: “solving for a problem” isnt accurate imo)
@@robdavies9478 not sure i said anything was pointless. what i said was the way the video describes things re an eq curve is meaningless irl and likely confuses people (ie sounds like marketing language designed to confuse ppl). if you read my comments closely you can see my explanation of why i believe this.
I would like to make it clear that my criticism is on the video, and how that part is portrayed in the video - not about the pedal or either company. Science is an awesome company in particular - i just heard someone overemphasizing a feature sounding like a marketing person in a way which is very salesman like imo - and i think many ppl who aren’t that familiar with a pedal like this might be getting confused needlessly. You may disagree, but for clarity I am not referring to the pedal, but rather how it is talked about it the video.
@@robdavies9478 i said right at the beginning that the “comments are nonsense”.
you’re talking about the pedal. i’m talking about how the pedal is presented in this video and talking about double eq curves in that way. not sure how i can make it more clear to you that my criticism is in the way it’s discussed and presented in the video but at least it’s written there if you want to read it.
@@robdavies9478 you don’t understand how someone can be misleading in how they talk about something? then nothing i write can help you man.