MazdaSpeed3 (x3) vs Focus ST

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  • @ThatDudeinBlue
    @ThatDudeinBlue 11 лет назад +11

    Finally some good footage of the ST against some competition! Nice!

  • @slowmk4vr6
    @slowmk4vr6 10 лет назад +4

    As a gen 1 ms3 owner. I love the focus st. I'm glad these were friendly runs with no stupid shit talking like "well if the ms3 had this or the st had that." This video was awesome "commence beat down" and " I need nos" made me lol.

    • @michaelgross9064
      @michaelgross9064 10 лет назад

      I think it was a nice mix and also did a good job of showing why you should get a good tune. The White MS3 was the only one with a custom tune.

  • @camerondpack
    @camerondpack 9 лет назад +11

    SO many haters Keola36! Great video! Its fun to see the comparison. Theres too much dumb machismo in the car scene from people who don't get it. FoST and MS3 both great, quick, daily drivers.

    • @keola36
      @keola36  9 лет назад +4

      camerondpack There will always be haters till the end of time. I just roll with it. Thanks for the kind words brother.

  • @k92392
    @k92392 8 лет назад +1

    bro thanks for the vid, this is a great comparison to ms3's and their upgrades against a stock st. I own a 12 mazdaspeed 3 and I loss to a stock st. I virtually have same mods as the first ms3 on this vid, and the race looked about the same. I wish that the black ms3 didn't slow down at the end, so I could compare the 2nd ms3 to the 3rd. I wanted to see if there was a noticeable difference with the fmic. Awesome vid bro.

  • @ripsco1761
    @ripsco1761 10 лет назад +3

    Cool video man. The ending cracked me up. Need more NOS!!

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thanks Brother. The aftermarket is already getting pretty big. They have bigger turbos in development right now for some pretty nice gains.
    No mods yet for my ST, I've been focused on other things and purchases for now. In due time though!
    Have you done anything new to your snake recently?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Nice! I've heard McLeod is a great brand. How does it feel now? Did it make pedal harder to push?
    Thanks for the kind words brother, I aim to please.

  • @erickfernandez8485
    @erickfernandez8485 9 лет назад +15

    u can hear from the turbo the st is not stock maybe a tune

    • @wendell52688
      @wendell52688 7 лет назад +1

      Erick Fernandez i know this is a year old comment but STs make that noise pretty easily in the cab if even the air box lid is taken off with the stock filter in it even. i enjoyed that little noise until i got a proper intake and bov for my FoST

    • @mamoochie7392
      @mamoochie7392 5 лет назад

      Both are modified

  • @PapaBruno
    @PapaBruno 10 лет назад +1

    Great video, man. I own a '12 MS3. Always awesome to see friendly competition like this. :3

  • @mrca5ual
    @mrca5ual 10 лет назад +1

    Pretty accurate outcomes. I have a 08 Speed3 and lost to a ST but since then "all Motor Mounts, Cat Delete, HKS Catback, Forge BPV, KNN SRI. I can take a ST now and I have 86000 miles. The ST are no joke though. Some mods and it's on!

  • @MrThunderx91
    @MrThunderx91 10 лет назад +5

    Very well made video. Contrary to the video my speed3 with only an intake an rear motor mount absolutely spanks my buddies stock ST. We did 3 runs from a dig and 1 from 45 and he had no chance. Oddly, I'd probably consider him a better driver than I?

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the kind words Jeff, I'm glad you liked it. When it comes to both the ST and MS3, they are so closely matched that one of many factors could influence the outcome of a race.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    For everyday ues this car is perfect. I have no gripes with it.. its so comfortable and nicely equipped and the driving experience is wonderful.. even when not racing around.
    I would go test drive one for yourself and then decide what options you need/want.

  • @MADelectriCITY
    @MADelectriCITY 11 лет назад

    I think I am about to take the plunge into my first new vehicle because of this car. What are some things you don't like about the car? Like for everyday use...

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thanks for the comment David.
    I've been to track day and the drag strip and still prefer street runs. I've been doing for over 10 years without incident. Just gotta be smart about it.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    I think they are pretty closely matched performance wise, its just a matter of personal preference.

  • @jojomajesty
    @jojomajesty 11 лет назад

    nice! i believe the video. i think the st is a lil bit lighter than the speed and it puts down a lil bit more hp/tq at wheels on a dyno from what i've seen..Which race did u brake boost at? doing that makes a big difference...I think the ms3 and st are pretty much equal because theres so many mix reviews..i remember the ms3 running a 3:16.2 at lightning lap and the st running a 3:21:4. But the reviews out there now claims the st is faster at a track..

  • @TheScottiem303
    @TheScottiem303 10 лет назад

    I like how you handle comments. No bs.

  • @saareee3
    @saareee3 11 лет назад +5

    explain how the black speed roollled on you in the last race?

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад +2

      Heat soak my friend.

  • @nca877
    @nca877 11 лет назад

    Depends on conditions, the track, the drivers, etc. They seem to be pretty close.

  • @djowxs9
    @djowxs9 11 лет назад

    saw this video when i started looking at hatchbacks, mainly mazdaspeed 3's, great video man!

  • @thegame8791
    @thegame8791 10 лет назад +1

    Hell of a vid. Sweet ST. R.I.P Paul Walker

  • @IECStang
    @IECStang 8 лет назад +1

    Love the little Fast and Furious skit at the end lol.

  • @Thelastoftheprimes
    @Thelastoftheprimes 10 лет назад

    Great video quality. Love the way you incorporated both views! With that being said, I think for proper credibility, you should allow a reputable MS3 guy to drive the MS3 vs the FST. Ive already smoked 4 FST's in my stock MS3 from rolls so I sincerely have to question your outcomes. Great videos though, props!

  • @masonhatch5705
    @masonhatch5705 11 лет назад +1

    I absolutely love the style of the new focus ST, I have an older focus, 09 SE and I'm thinking of upgrading to the newer ST, either that or a mustang v6

  • @rfreemanmodeling
    @rfreemanmodeling 10 лет назад +1

    Man, great video, love the ending!!! Much love to Paul Walker!

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Thanks Rahmel, glad you liked it.

  • @ChargerSRT392
    @ChargerSRT392 11 лет назад

    very impresive video man. I was suprised you took down those mazda speed 3s. I thought they were really fast with bolt ons. Thats why we line and race them baby!

  • @realeyesrealizereallies7134
    @realeyesrealizereallies7134 8 лет назад

    Good vid. man. I'm indecisive between the two as far as buying one. I drove the St and loved it.

  • @MJC-GSXS750
    @MJC-GSXS750 10 лет назад

    I'm so happy I subscribed to you :) Love ur vidz, keep up the great editing/work *thumbsup*

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Appreciate the support JayD. Your avatar makes me wanna go find a boosted RSX to run (and lose too) LOL.

    • @MJC-GSXS750
      @MJC-GSXS750 10 лет назад

      HAHA I will be boosted June 14th to be exact lol. jrsc is getting installed after 3 years of sitting in my room lol. I have seen 3 focus ST's in my city, but no luck getting any to do a 3 honk unfortunately.

  • @jeffreyaue4976
    @jeffreyaue4976 10 лет назад

    coming from an 09 Junior Tuned Full Bolt on WRX with e85 tune as well(low 12s all day on stock clutch just with 93) and i absolutely love the ST. obviously not nearly as quick but i enjoy it much more. sold it because they're selling high now and I got what i paid for it ;) had a g37 but thank you flood damage...ST has me smiling much more.

  • @danielyepes7433
    @danielyepes7433 11 лет назад

    hey keola u miss your stang i can see that! the st runss good man hey what kind of tune was made to the speed 3 that run u before the gt??? have myself a speed 3 ..

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Yeah, they are so closely matched that it could go either way. Alot of factors like drivers and weather and road conditions could sway it either way.
    I didn't brake boost any of those races, but the Black one did on the last race with the 5.0 (3 way race).
    Yeah, I've also seen MotorTrends comparison of the 2 cars where their pro driver ran 1 second quicker around Willow Springs with the ST. So definetly closely matched cars.

  • @juanjcorredor
    @juanjcorredor 11 лет назад +2

    Do you think the first two mazdas need a better driver? or they can't just keep up?, great video!

    • @keola36
      @keola36  11 лет назад +2

      They drive just fine, this was just a video made for fun with some friends. Take what you want from it.

  • @bobby_4505
    @bobby_4505 8 лет назад +1

    This is weird because I have a mostly stock (just intake and blow off valve) 08 Speed3 and I smoked a stock 2015 ST from a dead stop yesterday. Maybe there's a difference in performance between first and second gens?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Only Speed that had a passenger was the Black one (2nd Speed). No weight reduction on the ST, but I did have about 30 pounds of camera equipment in my back seat.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    I'm sorry you feel that way Justin, but you are entitled to your opinion. I can assure you my ST is bone stock.. I have no reason to lie. I am friends with the MS3 drivers and we dont BS each other.
    The reason this car is getting all the hype is because it performs.. and delivers a great driving experience. The Speed3 is still a great car, it just comes down to personal preference as far as styling, and interior design.

  • @chunkstar121
    @chunkstar121 9 лет назад

    Great video mate.. I shall be making some soon when my car arrives

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Hey Daniel, nah I dont really miss the stang to be honest. 2 of my neighbors have a '13 GT and 1 has a '14 Boss so I can always go bug them when I want my stang fix lol.
    The last Speed in the video has a Freek Tune, from what I hear it is the best and most aggressive tune for the Speed 3.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Right, because these 3 speed3's were just Mazda3's with Mazdaspeed3 badges on them.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Of course, gonna wait a few thousand more miles before I mod it to make sure nothing breaks.. scared because the car is in its 1st year production.
    After that, gonna do the usual intake/exhaust/tune.. then look into putting a bigger turbo on it.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    The insane Torque this car produces transformed my face forever =(

  • @itsbeiko
    @itsbeiko 8 лет назад +4

    why is it always a hating argument? why can't it just be a fun race between two cars that are very similar in terms of power and looks?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Appreciate it, both are great cars. Can't go wrong with either.

  • @Chris-ox7tr
    @Chris-ox7tr 11 лет назад

    Great video man. Enjoyed it. Good to see the ST run the way it did against those guys.

  • @brandongeorge6316
    @brandongeorge6316 8 лет назад

    I know this is old but those lugs on the white speed3 are HIDEOUS

  • @QuesoTornado
    @QuesoTornado 8 лет назад

    I love my focus st, had it for 2 years, it was my second car after a Honda civic

  • @jeremy6844
    @jeremy6844 11 лет назад

    GJ with the camera work, love it.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Yes Sir, thats what its all about! Respect, and having fun!

  • @sithaboveall
    @sithaboveall 10 лет назад +2

    So....why did the black ms3 walk you so much more at the end than mid clip....?

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      My poor ST was heat soaked by that last run, the stock intercooler can only do so much.

    • @pwnedbygary
      @pwnedbygary 10 лет назад

      The STs weakest link is its intercooler, and it also had a slight .3l displacement deficit comparative to the ms3. Quick car either way, it'd give my stage 2 GTI a run for my money

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thats great man, I know in the past usually upgrading the clutch made it harder to push. I had a buddy who had a supercharged '00 Mustang GT and he got a upgraded clutch and that sucker was a leg press to push down lol.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Yeah, I've been wanting too. Might try this weekend.

  • @AlessandroTheGreek
    @AlessandroTheGreek 8 лет назад +1

    stock vs stock...... the st is faster?
    On paper the ms3 schould be a bit faster

    • @MonRoeTheory
      @MonRoeTheory 5 лет назад

      I have owned both.
      The MS3 has a lot of tq, but its gear ratios are short. It's puts out roughly 15.6 boost.
      The ST has 11hp less, but it has a twin scroll turbo with 21psi and taller gears.
      Both are great, I loved my MS3. It's truly a special car. But in regards to performance; ST is a better car.

  • @Rowganlife
    @Rowganlife 8 лет назад

    dig the win/loss ratio of vids

  • @markrevere105
    @markrevere105 10 лет назад

    Great vid dude. Just bought an st a week ago. Is their any bolt on's you can do without voiding the warranty?

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Thanks brother. I think only the parts from Ford Racing dont void the warranty completely. You should talk to your service department if your thinking of getting something to see what they consider good and bad.

    • @dtdeb99
      @dtdeb99 10 лет назад

      An intake and catback system wouldnt void it but once the car is catless or tuned its voided. I have intake, catback, tune, and motor mounts and i wasnt messed with when i brought mine in for warranty work, just make sure the stock tune is on before bringing it in.

  • @bdix1985
    @bdix1985 10 лет назад

    Amazing vids man. Hope you used the cold weather up there to get some good runs in

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Thanks Brian, got a few runs in with the cold weather.. but once a few bolt ons come.. there will be alot more =D

  • @broncoKING24
    @broncoKING24 11 лет назад

    Very nice video Man! I love watching your videos

  • @bludragon3205
    @bludragon3205 11 лет назад

    Awesome video...like how you through in the Mustang at the end :-) The ST stood its ground nicely

  • @nilnine1231
    @nilnine1231 7 лет назад

    I know this is kinda a necro, but with the speed 3 (Just bought one for a daily) all you need is high pressure fuel pump internals and a tune and you will be much faster than an ST. Mazda left the tune massively rich for cooling. There is a TON of tuning room even stock (You really should upgrade the fuel internals first though)
    Just figured id post this for people trying to decide what to buy.

  • @augustortiz
    @augustortiz 10 лет назад

    The 5.0 just took off! and so did the third speed, just shows what mods do to turbo cars

  • @elaxel1469
    @elaxel1469 10 лет назад +3

    I would like to see the fastest mazda (white) vs the mustang

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      They are brothers, the mustang beats it pretty bad to.

  • @TcToshi
    @TcToshi 11 лет назад

    I love the competition. Inspires good builds. I hope

  • @officernate4460
    @officernate4460 11 лет назад

    u got any mods in mind for it? or are u not going to upgrade this one?

  • @TravelingxMan
    @TravelingxMan 10 лет назад

    I'm looking at both these cars. So thanks for the awesome video. I used to have a mustang (cobra). But I need something that is going to be needing something better on fuel economy for now. So it's either the mazda or the ford.. What you guys think I should do ? Feedback is always good :-)

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад +2

      You're welcome TravelingMan, Both cars are in fact great.. it all comes down to your personal preference as far as interior and exterior styling. I would recommend just going out and test driving both equipped the way you would want them and see which one calls to you.

  • @3point7v6Stang
    @3point7v6Stang 11 лет назад

    AWESOME video! those are some sweet speed3's too. The freak 5.0 was funny

  • @MAXpaowers
    @MAXpaowers 6 лет назад

    You took on everyone, damn Daniel

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thanks man, I've been checking your channel every week looking for new vids! Been busy with the fam n work?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thanks Jpac, glad you do!

  • @Socialjusticewarriorsaretrash
    @Socialjusticewarriorsaretrash 11 лет назад

    Hey how r u pulling on that speed my speed pulls stock st focus...Im bone stock all the way to the filter...running 93 octane i is got my speed Saturday :-)

  • @jojomajesty
    @jojomajesty 11 лет назад

    how many passengers on the speeds? any weight reduction on the ST?

  • @Zsword92
    @Zsword92 8 лет назад

    Classic movie. R.I.P Brian

  • @diegochiggy2665
    @diegochiggy2665 11 лет назад

    how come on the last run the ms3 chopped u and the other runs it was a good run?

  • @Jonah_w
    @Jonah_w 10 лет назад

    I don't get it, today I test drove a focus st and it seemed very underpowered, it did not seem like it could ever keep up with a ms3 or wrx. Maybe stock tunes are not very strong? It didn't really "push" me against my seat at all like I had hoped for

    • @ProDc5M
      @ProDc5M 10 лет назад

      sounds about right.

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 9 лет назад

      Did you floor it? The ST has a really odd throttle map on the stock tune. It's not very linear at all.

    • @Jonah_w
      @Jonah_w 9 лет назад

      i did only for a short time, i did hit max boost however

    • @myfakeevo
      @myfakeevo 9 лет назад

      *****
      when the car is bone stock if you arent completely flooring it its not using the overboost feature which adds 15hp and like 50lb of torque. with a retune the torque goes up even more.

    • @Jonah_w
      @Jonah_w 9 лет назад

      hmmm maybe thats it, thanks for the info

  • @JAMinguitardude1
    @JAMinguitardude1 11 лет назад

    You cannot brake boost in Mazdaspeed 3s. But, you don't really need to with a stock k04. It seems like the ms3s in this video, need a little bit of a driver mod. Especially in that second ms3. Shouldn't hear that HKS until he shifts into 6th gear.

  • @bdix1985
    @bdix1985 10 лет назад

    Awesome looking forward to more vids

  • @akipadre9752
    @akipadre9752 8 лет назад +3

    Somethings not right here???

  • @christianstack2673
    @christianstack2673 11 лет назад

    Black ms3 did let off, but the focus ST is a factory freak with an excellent driver. I have videos of the black ms3 running the freak tune one and a fully bolted stratified tuned gen 2. Will post when I get the time.

  • @Elwood32617
    @Elwood32617 10 лет назад

    Great video, with some nice runs :)

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Oh I see.. so the Speed3 is faster because it felt faster when you test drove it? Sweet! Car Magazines should be asking for your resume very soon!

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Thanks Kent, Enjoy it!

  • @99MCougar
    @99MCougar 11 лет назад

    Great video! I had to laugh at the end. That Mustang is a different animal. That ST sure holds its own!

  • @rsmithwrx
    @rsmithwrx 11 лет назад

    Now that you have started racing it, are you thinking of making any 0-60 and 0-100 speedo videos?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Appreciate it Chris.

  • @danielyepes7433
    @danielyepes7433 11 лет назад

    what kind of chiller does the speed 3 has ?? thank u!

  • @keepsoulfree
    @keepsoulfree 11 лет назад

    All I wanted to see...!!!! The Focus is FASTER than the Mazda ! Love that video!

  • @SelimxBradley
    @SelimxBradley 10 лет назад +2

    Great editing.

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад +1

      Thanks Donny!

  • @JAMinguitardude1
    @JAMinguitardude1 11 лет назад

    agreed. if you want the ricey vent to atmosphere, they need to at least get a 50/50 turbosmart bpv/bov. I myself, have a forge bpv on my ms3

  • @mzr3553
    @mzr3553 Год назад

    Remember stock the speed 3 or mps boost 0.9bar boost from factory.st boost 1.5 bar.so it spools up faster.

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Entertaining post my friend, gave me a good laugh.
    The bov you hear is not my ST.. its the Speeds making it. I forgot to add in the video description that the first Speed I race has a BOV as well. But hey, nice try.
    My ST is bone stock.. and all 3 Speed drivers can confirm it. Thats cool that you have been racing a while... I have been racing even longer I assure you =).
    But hey.. its all good man.

  • @ricardopr54
    @ricardopr54 11 лет назад

    Men, that last race really made your video. That was funny. There was no possible way for your little Ford to beat that beast, though! ... But I really give you credit... you make me laugh with your last race. Nice video, though! .

  • @5spd5thgen
    @5spd5thgen 8 лет назад

    love your race vids. see if you can have the speed3s race the blue Si you raced

  • @nezerac
    @nezerac 11 лет назад

    Didn't know a stock st would hang with a ms3. Great filming skill by the way. lol

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    He didn't brake boost in the 2 races against me, only the last 3 way.

  • @loonjake4509
    @loonjake4509 7 лет назад

    Great vid, wish I seen this earlier

  • @okaythen001
    @okaythen001 10 лет назад

    got a question I got a focus st and I live 1 mile from the highway and I like to drive fast. In the morning how long should I warm up the car or how should I drive it since I am so close to the highway, and have to get up to at least 55mph after 1 mile. thanks

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Honestly, cars made these days don't need to be warmed up as much as they used to. However, I like to wait about 1 minute or until the idle drops down to normal before taking off for work. As long as you keep up with oil changes you should be fine with the way you are driving.

    • @okaythen001
      @okaythen001 10 лет назад

      keola36 nice thanks a lot. so let idle drop to normal then is it ok to go 65mph on highway? and to drive hard on the car I should let the oil temp reach around 150F or something?

    • @1987slim
      @1987slim 10 лет назад

      Good rule of thumb is wait for the oil temp to be at 1/4 before really romping on it.

    • @taylordarr3
      @taylordarr3 10 лет назад

      Yeah usually once the revs go down to normal idle you're good to go. I wouldn't romp on it but you will be fine getting on the highway.

    • @okaythen001
      @okaythen001 10 лет назад

      Taylor Darr nice thanks, yeah usually the rev drops after I set the destination in my GPS, then I go 75mph but not romping on it.
      just wondering exactly what's bad for the car if you drive away right away in the morning?

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Not too worried about it, one of the perks of living 15 mins from the Border =)

  • @Makav3ll1
    @Makav3ll1 11 лет назад

    Awesome video man!

  • @SK8ZERO15
    @SK8ZERO15 10 лет назад

    How well did the mazdas run without the fuel pump internals?

    • @michaelgross9064
      @michaelgross9064 10 лет назад

      Fine...until the stocker can't keep up which can be very early on in modding. Then all kinds of fun things can happen.

  • @christianstack2673
    @christianstack2673 11 лет назад

    Nice bro! Looks like the black mazda found some extra power (break boosting lol) against that 5.0

  • @keola36
    @keola36  11 лет назад

    Still nice man! I'm itching to get a tune!

  • @bboy4050
    @bboy4050 9 лет назад +13

    hmmmmm.... those ms3 drivers must have sucked mad balls at driving lolol. nice race. I never lost to an ST even when I was stock though... regardless, both are cool cars.

    • @keola36
      @keola36  9 лет назад +7

      Mabye the ST's you raced had "drivers that sucked mad balls". Anyways, Talk is cheap. I let my videos do my talking.

    • @bboy4050
      @bboy4050 9 лет назад

      keola36 maybe, who knows. Where your general vicinity so I can roll by and whoop that focuses ass ;) hahaha. Nice video though. Any new mods since?

    • @fsflip3111
      @fsflip3111 9 лет назад

      bboy4050 hey OP, you said you were stock with your speed3. im assuming you upgradded it, is it a huge gain in the low gears ??? (becuase i know they are limited boost? i drove a few speed3s. i really like them but they didn't pull like i hoped for. im guessing that could be why. )

    • @bboy4050
      @bboy4050 9 лет назад +1

      fsflip3111 hey broski! And yeah I'm pretty much maxed on bolt ons minus a larger turbo lol. They make a huge difference than stock too btw. My dad shortly after me bought a ms3 (he did like the ST but didn't like the price) I pull on him hard lol. Bolt ons so far are downpipe, race pipe, catback, short ram intake, fuel pump internals, fmic, bov, itv22 plugs, rmm, cobb accessport with a custom tune and I'm at 347whp.

    • @fsflip3111
      @fsflip3111 9 лет назад

      bboy4050 nice, 347 is alot for fwd.. congrats! normal fuel or e85? so once you tune it, and toss some bolts ons, it pulls you back in your seat?

  • @XFaithfulToTheCorps
    @XFaithfulToTheCorps 10 лет назад

    For a comparison , every pound counts , mazda guy had a passenger and adds more weight to be pulled , and for the fact that the ST wasn't modded that's kind of not a fair match but what ever, it looks like you guys had fun

    • @keola36
      @keola36  10 лет назад

      Well said Faithful. Rematch will be coming soon after a couple bolt ons.