This guide is highly outdated and unoptimized. 00:50 Speccing into Subtlety is not at all required. A standard PVE raid spec works just fine. 01:24 Master of Deception is not required at all to do the first boss. 01:44 You will be using 12 Relic Coffer Keys per run, as all coffers can be opened safely. Just save your vanish for the Golems. You can then pull Watchman Doomgrip separately from inside one of the coffers as he is not social with the golems, and after he's dead, you can also loot the Dark Coffer without aggroing the golems at level 60. 01:50 Double Instant Poison is arguably more effective, as you would ideally save a couple of combo points to either stun or burst runners down before they cause any problems. Crippling Poison is only invaluable in difficult solo encounters where kiting is necessary for survival. 02:00 While not really useful, it's a fun parlor trick to pass through the first 2 doors without opening them. Both require a little bit of jumping, and the third door you actually do have to open. 02:15 Killing the Blazing Fireguard is recommended, as they are comparatively weak and have a decent chance of yielding Elemental Fires when dealt with. This applies to all lone fire elementals within the dungeon. 02:40 This macro is not efficient for picking pockets. Tab targeting is far more efficient and user-friendly. 04:15 At the time of recording this, Pick Pocket did not have a 5% chance to be resisted. Also, you don't necessarily need to Vanish, as there are multiple safe spots sprinkled all around the dungeon. You can simply jump down into the arena and climb up a rock on the wall and wait it out if Vanish is on CD. 05:40 Pyromancer Loregrain might very well be the least tricky boss to kill here. Simply Sap a henchman, use cooldowns and prioritize killing his totems because they deal crazy damage. 06:24 It's worth considering using a mouseover macro for Blind if you wish to use it here, as this will save your combo points on your main target. 07:17 Right there to the right here you can see a platform with a statue on it. Jumping on it and going behind the statue is a safe point that can also be utilized when things go wrong. 08:25 You can pick the pockets of the front row without having to circle around everything. Pick Pocket has a decent range, and this can be done safely even with 0/5 Master of Deception. Alright, you get the point, there's a lot that can be improved upon here. I'm not going to go through the whole video meticulously, but I am going to tell you what the optimal route is. 0. Buy a Grim Guzzler Key or obtain one yourself. 1. Go to Pyromancer as shown here. 2. Instead of turning back towards the arena, continue across the bridge. This is difficult at times due to random Bloodhound spawns in the packs, but it is always doable once you master it. The key is to distract the dogs and optimize your own pathing. 3. Once you cross the bridge, you'll be entering the Domicile. Here you are the most likely to pull something if a dog spawns, so you need to save your Sprint and Vanish for this part. Just run through the room, go downstairs around a corner and Vanish. You have to have range from the mobs and you have to be around the corner for it to work against the dogs. 4. Once this sketchy part is done with, you can proceed in peace to the coffer room. 5. Kill Verek and Warder Stilgiss if you can. I personally believe you can do it in any kind of pre-raid gear if you're prepared. Focus on the dog first. As for preparation for those with poor gear, a pre-popped Magic Resistance Potion helps tons with Stilgiss' Frostbolts and Nova and costs almost nothing, but make sure you have a healing potion ready for the fight. 6. Loot 11 of the coffers and then make sure you have Vanish available. Leave 1 coffer unopened in any corner. 7. Open the 12th coffer, but do not start looting the box. Just jump inside and wait for the golems to activate and target you. The second they all target you, just Vanish. From here, you can break stealth and loot the 12th box without aggroing anything. 8. If you were able to dispatch of Verek and Stilgiss, you can now pull Watchman Doomgrip separately. He's a very weak standard elite who mostly relies on his golem army, but you do want to save some combo points for when he goes to ~20% health, because he will be using "Drink Potion" around that time. Using a ranged attack, you can solo pick him from inside of a coffer. 9. When Watchman dies, you can loot him, re-stealth and sneak past the golems into the open coffers right next to the Secret Safe which has now been opened. From here, you can loot the Secret Safe through the wall without pulling any of the golems. 10. Leave the coffers and stealth past any threats. 11. Navigate over to the left, stand on the rail and prepare for a big jump. You're going to jump over the pathway that leads to Lord Incendius to the other side. This absolutely requires Sprint. 12. Jump over the gap. On the other sight you will see the little ramp with the Grim Guzzler Door up it. This jump is 100% safe when it comes to pulling anything, so if you made it, you should be okay to continue. 13. Walk up the ramp and open the door leading to the bar. This door REQUIRES a Grim Guzzler Key and cannot be picked open at any level. The key is obtained by picking Plugger Spazzring's pockets, and you will always be picking another one up when you're doing this farm, so you only have to get the key "the hard way" once. 14. Do your preferred routine in the bar. Vendor, pick pockets, kill stuff. 15. If you have a Gnomish Mind Control Cap, you can kill the goblin for an easy 16 slot bag. You just have to clear up around him using the beers, and then pick him by using your helmet and Vanishing. This allows you to separate him from his goons for an easy kill. The bag is unique, so when you finally get it, you might want to stop killing him as his loot table is not particularly stellar and dispatching of him takes a few extra minutes. 16. Once you're done in the bar, you can jump down to Lord Incendius. If you're geared or buffed up, killing him is entirely possible, but if not, you can just start heading back to the start by running towards the entrance from here. If you decide Incendius has to go, then I suggest another pre-popped Magic Resistance Potion and a Blazing Emblem for this fight, as he deals purely fire damage. Stacking fire resistance gear isn't a great strategy, because he uses a curse that gimps your resistance, but starting off strong with my suggested combination is going to give you your best chance of success. Also, if you're in the habit of carrying weird stuff, a Flame Deflector can be used here to absorb 500 damage for free, as they don't share a CD with any other consumables. + Bonus: You can also solo many of the Dark Keeper spawns by triggering them from the portrait in the coffer room. I typically never did, because some spawns are too inconvenient and to get value out of this, you have to collect other materials to sell Arcanums of Resilience and Rumination. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a huge boon to your farm and should be done, but sometimes it's just not worth the extra trouble. ++ Bonus: Logout skips can be done inside BRD when you're done with the farm. Stand on a ledge, relog and get ported into the entrance, and you could save a solid chunk of time. +++ Bonus: This isn't the best gold per hour for rogues. Hilariously, comprehensive statistics have proven that farming Scarlet Monastery yields slightly more gold per hour when performed ideally. SM has 5 chests per every reset, guaranteed Fadeleaf/Grave Moss and non-trivial pick pocket value. The reason behind the profitability of SM lies in the variety of loot (leveling gear, twink gear, rare recipes [Lesser Block, Star Belt, Steel Weapon Chain, Strong Anti-Venom etc.], coveted trade goods [Grave Moss, Fadeleaf, Goldthorn, Wild Steelbloom, Swiftthistle, Coarse/Heavy Stone, Wool Cloth/Leather, Iron/Silver Ore] as well as 12-slot bags, greys, Blinding Powder and just plain raw gold). SM is also a far more convenient location for the Horde due to its proximity to vendors/mailbox/cities cutting down on downtime to travel and portal costs (damn those Kargath mages!). EDIT: Actually, just obtain the Dark Keeper Key in advance as well. This way you can just immediately open the Dark Coffer while opening everything up. You can then safely trigger another Dark Keeper to spawn and loot the key from him for your NEXT run. This saves a lot of time as you will never have to backtrack at all.
Of all the guides I've searched for, for this specific type of run. This is by far the best. So calm, and soothing at the same time lol. I wanted to see what else you've done but noticed you're more of a streamer, so I threw you a follow on twitch and will tune in when I'm able to. Good job my man.
Hey dude, nice videos you got on your channel. You are well spoken and everything you say is good information. Me personally don't like guides when people just try to be funny or joke all the time, this is actually 30 mins of pure learning content, thanks man! Followed your stream aswell.
excellent guide! i use this macro because you dont have to move your mouse at all. i find it to be "faster" /cleartarget /targetenemy /cast Pick Pocket
Another thing to add is to kill the fire elementals that are patrolling. They quite often drop essence of fire and elemental fire. Depending on your server you can sometimes make up to 10-15g extra per run.
@@sermerlin1 yeah, resisted, sprint out of dungeon, resisted vanish, resisted pop preparation and sprint out, resisted vanish. There's no way I'll get resisted again in 2 min. Resisted dead
at 17:30 with sprint and vanish on CD, and if vanish fails, if you had it up in the arena section, you can jump down into the arena and run up the wall into the evade spot for the mobs to reset so you don't die, it's the same strat as running into the arena when doing arena/anger runs if you have a low lvl that aggros mobs as youre jumping down into the arena. Youll have to run back up but it's much faster than waiting for vanish/sprint or a death, you may have to have a health pot for the ranged mobs though, sometimes they hit through wall until you're actually in the correct spot, somewhat of an annoyance
Thanks for the farming vid. I just re-rolled rogue and now I am looking forward to making some gold. This is the first vids I have seen from you, and one of the better classic vids I have seen since launch. Keep up the good work....
You can survive a resist at the arena even if your vanish is not up. You can jump down to the pit and jump onto an invisible ledge on the left upper corner of one of the gates. This will reset the mobs as they can't reach you. Beware though, when you get on the ledge: any movement will drop you back down.
in order to get all 12 - leave one of the ones on the side back corner to last. either left or right side doesnt matter. then as you open it jump into it and vanish. if you are in the back corner you can then open the box
What I've found very productive is to for the first 4 instances just rush Pyromancer, picking one side of arena to him and the other side on the way out, then on 5th instance you do a coffer run with pyro to extend the time to avoid the lock out and then you can do another 4 pyros and a coffer run et.c. If you calculate it Pyro is significantly more worth than any other soloable boss that's within this route, if you do 12min runs you can keep doing it without instance lock out; it takes about 6-7mins to pocket to pyro and pocket back out, which is why I suggest rushing him and then doing the coffer to extend beyond lock out.
@@Apoptosis808GK Oh and "more stopwatches" best add-on ever, get 5 of these ticking to know exactly how long you have to pickpocket before reset, although I don't know if there might be a better add-on that keep track for you...
@@Apoptosis808GK after some more running I've found 3xpyro 2xcoffer&pyro to be suuper consistent and efficient and around 60g/h and I don't need to use the timers because 2 coffers makes it very comfortable
You open the last one with one in the corner on the side of the Dark Coffer safe. Open the last door and jump into the back corner. Wait until the alarm goes and the golems run at you. Vanish. Done.
I don't use a mouse over macro, to high of a risk for your character to autoattack. I use bartender, and make 1 bar a single button, enlarge it and position its right on my character. In bartender I have out of range option turned on, so when pickpocket is out of range it turned red. I have found staying at max distance helps reduce the resists. And having this button up makes it really easy to speed through the run. When not in BRD you just disable the bar.
With a notarget cleartarget macro you can just walk up to npcs and spam the pickpocket button. With autoloot and faster looting it will mostly just open the last pickpocket window and every guy in reach will be pickpocketed. Really usefull to pickpocket in dungeons with a group without losing dps.
Combine this with a loot addon that removes the loot window with autoloot turned on and this is even better. While we are on topic of addon if dont want to waste a bind for lockpicking grab a lockpicking addon, mine just lets you hold alt and left click on a box to crack em open. Idr the name of these two but they are both available on the twitch ap and should be easily found with keyword searches. If you don't use the twitch app for addons I would highly recommend it. I don't know if wow matrix still works but if you know what that is its basically what the twitch ap is.
Good guide, would throw in that if you have a little gear, its worth to kill the patrolling fireguards, they have like 6k health and drop elemental fire/essence of fire, which on my server are 5g+ each
Nice will be doing this tonight. TO help with the dark iron ale. Go into the room where the thorium guy is and put the ale on top of the barrels just inside on the left. You can pull 2-3 of the dwarves per ale.
Hey mate, i think i found a little cheat. I could be wrong, but I think after killing loregrain, jumping through that little window is faster to get to the coffers as you dont need to run all the way to pugger and pickpocket him etc. So I do, loregrain -> jump out window go to coffer -> plugger, sell, reset
When i did it as combat sword spec a few weeks ago i could easily kill pyromancer+2 adds no problems but everythingelse was really slow and a lot of deaths from resists when vanish on cooldown :p. Then i tried it again as prep pvp spec with cold blood and harder to zerg the bosses but more reliable overall runs. I feel like it's such a drag to farm this all day though, how about you? I simply made a mage now farming ZF instead hehe
At the 17 min mark, you mention that there is no chance you can live there since everything is on CD. Jump into the arena and stand on the side wall and it's a reset point.
Awesome! Together with the "balcony" out the window, and just sprinting out, that covers a lot of ground, only missing something for all the guys down between bael'gar and gate.. :(
I've been doing this for the past 3 days a couple hours every night, like you said to farm for epic mount. I'm combat sword pve spec. No points in sub. Full preraid BiS gear. The first boss, I sap one add, pop CDs, and kill the boss and the second add.. I almost always kill them before my sap expires. I bandage back to full hp then kill the last. Dont have to have the points in sub to do the boss.
@@HolisticHabits88 I haven't tried to solo angerforge, I imagine I probably could with CDs and a sapper charge, but I think you would need vanish once he spawns in the second wave of adds
Hi, please how do I exactly use this macro on a pickpocket? When I write this macro, what should I do with it? I click or how pls? I'm sorry, I don't understand at all.
Yea. Frankly Cold Blood/Prep Hemo build is great here. Its also great for when you get bored and want to pvp outside the instance after doing this for a few hours. You can also do the pyromancer quite easy with decent gear or if your undergeared with some tea and pot maybe, frankly with prep you shouldn't really have a problem because you can get to CB 5 pointers on the boss.
There is a way to kill pyromancer without vanishing. After you kill him fast enough ( use one of superiour healthpots) you can go back and right before the pack theres a statue on the left that you can jump into losing every1 and resetting combat. Meanwhile you can either heal up/ unlock boxes!
how to do pyromancer as combat: sap one add while the energy tick is halfway trough, insta pop AR+evasion+blade flurry, start hitting the add left and do 1 SS then pop SnD, burst down the add. Blind pyromancer, bandage yourself (gouge first if u've the dot up). just finish the fight, loot, vanish. If u haven't got vanish up u can solo the other add my gear and spec: classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/rogue/human/AjwQMFMDEE8yABUgIAUBUCMf8AExKwI8MwMuYgVBUQZBSQc61ghBRwlBRgo61wtJhQxFMQ02jQ5IIQ8zQhBFKRE9vhI0RA edit: my chest is enchanted with +100 hp, my weps with fiery wep, my gloves with 7agi & my leggins with +8agi
u dont need sub for pyromancer. far from pre-raid bis as combat i just sap one, blind the second straight away, adrenaline rush and interrupt what i can, loot, gauge the second add, run, vanish... however you'd be foolish to do pickpocket runs as non sub :)
It's costing me so much to spec back all the time for raiding. So done a few as combat recently. Definitely slower but save me 50g each respec so it's worth it
Can anyone confirm if you can get arcane crystals from the gem bags? I clearly remember it not being a thing but a rogue in my guild is claiming he got one the other day.
Sorry for the late reply friend, missed this comment. You have to be in range and have your mouse hovering over the target you want to use this macro on. Then you hit the keybind you set that macro to (lets say 1) and itll pick pocket your hover mouse target. Hope this helps!
"You can't kill the first boss unless you're sub" - I kill him all the time as combat easily. You used a potion and vanished the adds. As combat I dump all 3 in 30 seconds
@@Apoptosis808GK I can see where you're coming from here but I actually believe the contrary. I noticed you did significantly less damage as sub, taking significantly more damage. As combat I kill all 3 mobs with ease. No potion or bandage if I want. I may try to post a clip here soon.
I second this, I do this farm as my combat swords raid spec, don’t have any points in sub and can always kill this guy without issue. I usually just sap him blade flurry Adds and then burn him down after. I still think sub would be the way to go as it speeds up your pick pocketing and g/h but if you don’t want to respec, combat is still viable
@@Apoptosis808GK Because I'm not emotional, desire attention, or care to do woman-like activities. That's just me though. I don't care if you do though, it's your body and humanly right, to do as you please with your body. Was just asking out of curiosity.
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This guide is highly outdated and unoptimized.
00:50 Speccing into Subtlety is not at all required. A standard PVE raid spec works just fine.
01:24 Master of Deception is not required at all to do the first boss.
01:44 You will be using 12 Relic Coffer Keys per run, as all coffers can be opened safely. Just save your vanish for the Golems. You can then pull Watchman Doomgrip separately from inside one of the coffers as he is not social with the golems, and after he's dead, you can also loot the Dark Coffer without aggroing the golems at level 60.
01:50 Double Instant Poison is arguably more effective, as you would ideally save a couple of combo points to either stun or burst runners down before they cause any problems. Crippling Poison is only invaluable in difficult solo encounters where kiting is necessary for survival.
02:00 While not really useful, it's a fun parlor trick to pass through the first 2 doors without opening them. Both require a little bit of jumping, and the third door you actually do have to open.
02:15 Killing the Blazing Fireguard is recommended, as they are comparatively weak and have a decent chance of yielding Elemental Fires when dealt with. This applies to all lone fire elementals within the dungeon.
02:40 This macro is not efficient for picking pockets. Tab targeting is far more efficient and user-friendly.
04:15 At the time of recording this, Pick Pocket did not have a 5% chance to be resisted. Also, you don't necessarily need to Vanish, as there are multiple safe spots sprinkled all around the dungeon. You can simply jump down into the arena and climb up a rock on the wall and wait it out if Vanish is on CD.
05:40 Pyromancer Loregrain might very well be the least tricky boss to kill here. Simply Sap a henchman, use cooldowns and prioritize killing his totems because they deal crazy damage.
06:24 It's worth considering using a mouseover macro for Blind if you wish to use it here, as this will save your combo points on your main target.
07:17 Right there to the right here you can see a platform with a statue on it. Jumping on it and going behind the statue is a safe point that can also be utilized when things go wrong.
08:25 You can pick the pockets of the front row without having to circle around everything. Pick Pocket has a decent range, and this can be done safely even with 0/5 Master of Deception.
Alright, you get the point, there's a lot that can be improved upon here. I'm not going to go through the whole video meticulously, but I am going to tell you what the optimal route is.
0. Buy a Grim Guzzler Key or obtain one yourself.
1. Go to Pyromancer as shown here.
2. Instead of turning back towards the arena, continue across the bridge. This is difficult at times due to random Bloodhound spawns in the packs, but it is always doable once you master it. The key is to distract the dogs and optimize your own pathing.
3. Once you cross the bridge, you'll be entering the Domicile. Here you are the most likely to pull something if a dog spawns, so you need to save your Sprint and Vanish for this part. Just run through the room, go downstairs around a corner and Vanish. You have to have range from the mobs and you have to be around the corner for it to work against the dogs.
4. Once this sketchy part is done with, you can proceed in peace to the coffer room.
5. Kill Verek and Warder Stilgiss if you can. I personally believe you can do it in any kind of pre-raid gear if you're prepared. Focus on the dog first. As for preparation for those with poor gear, a pre-popped Magic Resistance Potion helps tons with Stilgiss' Frostbolts and Nova and costs almost nothing, but make sure you have a healing potion ready for the fight.
6. Loot 11 of the coffers and then make sure you have Vanish available. Leave 1 coffer unopened in any corner.
7. Open the 12th coffer, but do not start looting the box. Just jump inside and wait for the golems to activate and target you. The second they all target you, just Vanish. From here, you can break stealth and loot the 12th box without aggroing anything.
8. If you were able to dispatch of Verek and Stilgiss, you can now pull Watchman Doomgrip separately. He's a very weak standard elite who mostly relies on his golem army, but you do want to save some combo points for when he goes to ~20% health, because he will be using "Drink Potion" around that time. Using a ranged attack, you can solo pick him from inside of a coffer.
9. When Watchman dies, you can loot him, re-stealth and sneak past the golems into the open coffers right next to the Secret Safe which has now been opened. From here, you can loot the Secret Safe through the wall without pulling any of the golems.
10. Leave the coffers and stealth past any threats.
11. Navigate over to the left, stand on the rail and prepare for a big jump. You're going to jump over the pathway that leads to Lord Incendius to the other side. This absolutely requires Sprint.
12. Jump over the gap. On the other sight you will see the little ramp with the Grim Guzzler Door up it. This jump is 100% safe when it comes to pulling anything, so if you made it, you should be okay to continue.
13. Walk up the ramp and open the door leading to the bar. This door REQUIRES a Grim Guzzler Key and cannot be picked open at any level. The key is obtained by picking Plugger Spazzring's pockets, and you will always be picking another one up when you're doing this farm, so you only have to get the key "the hard way" once.
14. Do your preferred routine in the bar. Vendor, pick pockets, kill stuff.
15. If you have a Gnomish Mind Control Cap, you can kill the goblin for an easy 16 slot bag. You just have to clear up around him using the beers, and then pick him by using your helmet and Vanishing. This allows you to separate him from his goons for an easy kill. The bag is unique, so when you finally get it, you might want to stop killing him as his loot table is not particularly stellar and dispatching of him takes a few extra minutes.
16. Once you're done in the bar, you can jump down to Lord Incendius. If you're geared or buffed up, killing him is entirely possible, but if not, you can just start heading back to the start by running towards the entrance from here. If you decide Incendius has to go, then I suggest another pre-popped Magic Resistance Potion and a Blazing Emblem for this fight, as he deals purely fire damage. Stacking fire resistance gear isn't a great strategy, because he uses a curse that gimps your resistance, but starting off strong with my suggested combination is going to give you your best chance of success. Also, if you're in the habit of carrying weird stuff, a Flame Deflector can be used here to absorb 500 damage for free, as they don't share a CD with any other consumables.
+ Bonus: You can also solo many of the Dark Keeper spawns by triggering them from the portrait in the coffer room. I typically never did, because some spawns are too inconvenient and to get value out of this, you have to collect other materials to sell Arcanums of Resilience and Rumination. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a huge boon to your farm and should be done, but sometimes it's just not worth the extra trouble.
++ Bonus: Logout skips can be done inside BRD when you're done with the farm. Stand on a ledge, relog and get ported into the entrance, and you could save a solid chunk of time.
+++ Bonus: This isn't the best gold per hour for rogues. Hilariously, comprehensive statistics have proven that farming Scarlet Monastery yields slightly more gold per hour when performed ideally. SM has 5 chests per every reset, guaranteed Fadeleaf/Grave Moss and non-trivial pick pocket value. The reason behind the profitability of SM lies in the variety of loot (leveling gear, twink gear, rare recipes [Lesser Block, Star Belt, Steel Weapon Chain, Strong Anti-Venom etc.], coveted trade goods [Grave Moss, Fadeleaf, Goldthorn, Wild Steelbloom, Swiftthistle, Coarse/Heavy Stone, Wool Cloth/Leather, Iron/Silver Ore] as well as 12-slot bags, greys, Blinding Powder and just plain raw gold). SM is also a far more convenient location for the Horde due to its proximity to vendors/mailbox/cities cutting down on downtime to travel and portal costs (damn those Kargath mages!).
EDIT: Actually, just obtain the Dark Keeper Key in advance as well. This way you can just immediately open the Dark Coffer while opening everything up. You can then safely trigger another Dark Keeper to spawn and loot the key from him for your NEXT run. This saves a lot of time as you will never have to backtrack at all.
Of all the guides I've searched for, for this specific type of run. This is by far the best. So calm, and soothing at the same time lol. I wanted to see what else you've done but noticed you're more of a streamer, so I threw you a follow on twitch and will tune in when I'm able to. Good job my man.
Couldn’t agree more. Great video. Lvl 60 rogue here on Grobbulus, about to try this farm next time I play
Edit; 60 not 69
Informative stuff, zero useless or irrelevant information! Keep it up buddy!
Hey dude, nice videos you got on your channel. You are well spoken and everything you say is good information. Me personally don't like guides when people just try to be funny or joke all the time, this is actually 30 mins of pure learning content, thanks man! Followed your stream aswell.
You can reset agro if you go behind the pillar on each side at the Pyromancer ^^
excellent guide! i use this macro because you dont have to move your mouse at all. i find it to be "faster" /cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Pick Pocket
Another thing to add is to kill the fire elementals that are patrolling. They quite often drop essence of fire and elemental fire. Depending on your server you can sometimes make up to 10-15g extra per run.
this should be the top comment they have such little health that its absolutely worth taking a min or 2 to kill them
Great video, Bro. Very thorough and informative without being boring or slow. Well done, liked and subbed.
Pro tip: use Wardrobe addon (you need to find the "c" version for classic) to unequip durability items when pickpocketing without vanish up
Amazing video! Extremely well-explained!
Hey mate another great guide. Finished getting my BiS and now farming for my epic mount. Cheers again
Very cool! Grats my friend :D
Nothing like getting resisted on pick pocket 3 times in a minute.
happened to me today not 3 but 5... I died 2 times that run.
same.....every guide i watch is like 0-2 resists ez, then i run it and its atleast 5 resists lmao
@@sermerlin1 yeah, resisted, sprint out of dungeon, resisted vanish, resisted pop preparation and sprint out, resisted vanish. There's no way I'll get resisted again in 2 min. Resisted dead
at 17:30 with sprint and vanish on CD, and if vanish fails, if you had it up in the arena section, you can jump down into the arena and run up the wall into the evade spot for the mobs to reset so you don't die, it's the same strat as running into the arena when doing arena/anger runs if you have a low lvl that aggros mobs as youre jumping down into the arena. Youll have to run back up but it's much faster than waiting for vanish/sprint or a death, you may have to have a health pot for the ranged mobs though, sometimes they hit through wall until you're actually in the correct spot, somewhat of an annoyance
Thanks for the farming vid. I just re-rolled rogue and now I am looking forward to making some gold. This is the first vids I have seen from you, and one of the better classic vids I have seen since launch. Keep up the good work....
this is a great guide, thanks for sharing
No problem!
@@Apoptosis808GK literally as im typing this I've looted 2 sacks of gems, its lit
@@SirSpycrab Siiiiiiiiiiiiick! Enjoy the loot
You can get all 12 coffers if you save a specific one to be the last then jump into that one go in the corner wait for the enemies then vanish
You can survive a resist at the arena even if your vanish is not up. You can jump down to the pit and jump onto an invisible ledge on the left upper corner of one of the gates. This will reset the mobs as they can't reach you. Beware though, when you get on the ledge: any movement will drop you back down.
in order to get all 12 - leave one of the ones on the side back corner to last. either left or right side doesnt matter. then as you open it jump into it and vanish. if you are in the back corner you can then open the box
@@Apoptosis808GK oh you have to open that nearest box from inside the safe of the second nearest vault.
I’ve only managed to get that closest coffer to boss once. Can’t seem to find the right spot again without agro’ing.
What I've found very productive is to for the first 4 instances just rush Pyromancer, picking one side of arena to him and the other side on the way out, then on 5th instance you do a coffer run with pyro to extend the time to avoid the lock out and then you can do another 4 pyros and a coffer run et.c.
If you calculate it Pyro is significantly more worth than any other soloable boss that's within this route, if you do 12min runs you can keep doing it without instance lock out; it takes about 6-7mins to pocket to pyro and pocket back out, which is why I suggest rushing him and then doing the coffer to extend beyond lock out.
@@Apoptosis808GK Oh and "more stopwatches" best add-on ever, get 5 of these ticking to know exactly how long you have to pickpocket before reset, although I don't know if there might be a better add-on that keep track for you...
@@Apoptosis808GK after some more running I've found 3xpyro 2xcoffer&pyro to be suuper consistent and efficient and around 60g/h and I don't need to use the timers because 2 coffers makes it very comfortable
Keep up the great content brotha 🤘
You open the last one with one in the corner on the side of the Dark Coffer safe. Open the last door and jump into the back corner. Wait until the alarm goes and the golems run at you. Vanish. Done.
I don't use a mouse over macro, to high of a risk for your character to autoattack.
I use bartender, and make 1 bar a single button, enlarge it and position its right on my character. In bartender I have out of range option turned on, so when pickpocket is out of range it turned red. I have found staying at max distance helps reduce the resists. And having this button up makes it really easy to speed through the run. When not in BRD you just disable the bar.
Range has nothing to do with resists.
@@Estocolmo97 has nothing to do with resists, it is about being caught, which is different than resist
@@Gantzz321 "i have found staying max distance helps reduce the resists" that is what i was reffering to, it is false.
Fantastic video my dude! Keep it up
Thank you so much , dude! Exactly what I needed. Awesome walkthrough and commentary
With a notarget cleartarget macro you can just walk up to npcs and spam the pickpocket button. With autoloot and faster looting it will mostly just open the last pickpocket window and every guy in reach will be pickpocketed. Really usefull to pickpocket in dungeons with a group without losing dps.
#showtooltip
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Pick Pocket
/cast [nostealth] Stealth
Nice and easy, very spammable
Combine this with a loot addon that removes the loot window with autoloot turned on and this is even better. While we are on topic of addon if dont want to waste a bind for lockpicking grab a lockpicking addon, mine just lets you hold alt and left click on a box to crack em open. Idr the name of these two but they are both available on the twitch ap and should be easily found with keyword searches. If you don't use the twitch app for addons I would highly recommend it. I don't know if wow matrix still works but if you know what that is its basically what the twitch ap is.
Good guide, would throw in that if you have a little gear, its worth to kill the patrolling fireguards, they have like 6k health and drop elemental fire/essence of fire, which on my server are 5g+ each
Nice will be doing this tonight. TO help with the dark iron ale. Go into the room where the thorium guy is and put the ale on top of the barrels just inside on the left. You can pull 2-3 of the dwarves per ale.
Solide video. Subbed!
I usually do ribble also in guzzler, with prep or mc cap pretty easy and he has chance to drop 16slot bag also
You can get all 12. You open them from inside the vault
I really liked this video man! keep it up!
Hey mate, i think i found a little cheat. I could be wrong, but I think after killing loregrain, jumping through that little window is faster to get to the coffers as you dont need to run all the way to pugger and pickpocket him etc. So I do, loregrain -> jump out window go to coffer -> plugger, sell, reset
When i did it as combat sword spec a few weeks ago i could easily kill pyromancer+2 adds no problems but everythingelse was really slow and a lot of deaths from resists when vanish on cooldown :p. Then i tried it again as prep pvp spec with cold blood and harder to zerg the bosses but more reliable overall runs. I feel like it's such a drag to farm this all day though, how about you?
I simply made a mage now farming ZF instead hehe
At the 17 min mark, you mention that there is no chance you can live there since everything is on CD. Jump into the arena and stand on the side wall and it's a reset point.
whats the name of the addon u have on top of the screen ? thx
I didn't got the plus part. Can you explain what happens after the last gnome boss ?
damn didn't even flex with the FELSTRIKER
rich thorium in silitus is really good too
there is a savespot in the arena when you jump down you can klimb up on the side and so all enemys reset. cheers and thx for the vid
Awesome! Together with the "balcony" out the window, and just sprinting out, that covers a lot of ground, only missing something for all the guys down between bael'gar and gate.. :(
Where is this safespot exactly?
What enemy nameplate addon are you using?
I've been doing this for the past 3 days a couple hours every night, like you said to farm for epic mount. I'm combat sword pve spec. No points in sub. Full preraid BiS gear. The first boss, I sap one add, pop CDs, and kill the boss and the second add.. I almost always kill them before my sap expires. I bandage back to full hp then kill the last. Dont have to have the points in sub to do the boss.
Anger boss?
@@HolisticHabits88 I haven't tried to solo angerforge, I imagine I probably could with CDs and a sapper charge, but I think you would need vanish once he spawns in the second wave of adds
@@Apoptosis808GK how about RFD
What Is the name of the addon the bar on the top of you scream?
I believe that one is Titan Bar!
Is it worth trying to kill Stilgiss if he drops any decent loot? I've tried a couple times but his dog hits pretty hard
Started using this run, well put together! Sadly I was a bit slow leveling so the coffer keys are slightly rarer
I buy the keys if i find them under 35s. Any closer to 40s and they start losing value and rely on RNG too much.
Hi, please how do I exactly use this macro on a pickpocket? When I write this macro, what should I do with it? I click or how pls? I'm sorry, I don't understand at all.
with mouse overs you hover your cursor over the target and press the keybind on your keyboard
you fit the Undead Rogue stereotype very well XD
Am I the only one that gets a fuckton of resists? like 3-4 per round of pickpocket
@@Apoptosis808GK Just unsure if it's wort it anymore :(
I tried ZF last night because I heard you could make some decent cash, I wasnt impressed, but yeah I had several resist
@@Apoptosis808GK maybe, tried for 6 hours yesterday... 4 to 5 resists a lap, gonna try after I can respec tomorrow
I read somewhere that pickpocket succes is influenced by hit% or spellhit%. Don't know if it's true.
@@GULAGMONK I'm not sure if you're right about this, but I do seem to get less resists now that my rogue is geared.
Keys are really expensive in sulfuras NA. Like 7 g for 12
pyro boss tip: sap the boss kill the adds first with blade fury. then kill the boss solo easy.. kick all caste. kill totem with autohit.
pick disenchanting to de the gear and sell the mats
Very cool goblin avatar dude
is it rly worth to pick pocket all the Mobs? It would be much faster only kill Bosses/open Coffers, or?
Do you know if you could kill the 1st boss in hemo spec?
what is the addon you use that shows the combo points on the target
Hey man great videos keep going! Subbed to you my friend.
Subbed. Thanks for the help!
Do u need to keep the keys once you're 300Lock Picking?
@@Apoptosis808GK how about such as doors so we don't have to carry the other keys?
Some advice I can give is that you go prep spec for the double vanish and blind
Yea. Frankly Cold Blood/Prep Hemo build is great here. Its also great for when you get bored and want to pvp outside the instance after doing this for a few hours. You can also do the pyromancer quite easy with decent gear or if your undergeared with some tea and pot maybe, frankly with prep you shouldn't really have a problem because you can get to CB 5 pointers on the boss.
The deed of darrowshire I think it’s called from the coffers is actually worth the most from the coffers. Around 2.3g/deed.
Another good deed to get is thordril span. It if worth a little over 2g.
does this still work? I heard a rumor it was patched?
Havent tried it in a while to be honest! Not sure if this is patche dout or not. What in particular are you referring to?
@@Apoptosis808GK i heard they nerfed the amounts of gold they carry and increased their stealth detection to combat bots
There is a way to kill pyromancer without vanishing. After you kill him fast enough ( use one of superiour healthpots) you can go back and right before the pack theres a statue on the left that you can jump into losing every1 and resetting combat. Meanwhile you can either heal up/ unlock boxes!
What is the pickpocking macro?, the last line is blurry! Thanks for the grate guide!
#showtooltip Pick Pocket
/cast [@mouseover] Pick Pocket
/tm [@mouseover] 1
is there an auto unlock addon or macro
2:45 pick macro
how do you autoloot?
how to do pyromancer as combat:
sap one add while the energy tick is halfway trough, insta pop AR+evasion+blade flurry, start hitting the add left and do 1 SS then pop SnD, burst down the add. Blind pyromancer, bandage yourself (gouge first if u've the dot up). just finish the fight, loot, vanish. If u haven't got vanish up u can solo the other add
my gear and spec: classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/rogue/human/AjwQMFMDEE8yABUgIAUBUCMf8AExKwI8MwMuYgVBUQZBSQc61ghBRwlBRgo61wtJhQxFMQ02jQ5IIQ8zQhBFKRE9vhI0RA
edit: my chest is enchanted with +100 hp, my weps with fiery wep, my gloves with 7agi & my leggins with +8agi
u dont need sub for pyromancer. far from pre-raid bis as combat i just sap one, blind the second straight away, adrenaline rush and interrupt what i can, loot, gauge the second add, run, vanish... however you'd be foolish to do pickpocket runs as non sub :)
It's costing me so much to spec back all the time for raiding. So done a few as combat recently. Definitely slower but save me 50g each respec so it's worth it
thx man!
Hey great vidz dude, can you tell me the name of your nameplate with enemy cast bar ?
Thanks :)
@@Apoptosis808GK Thanks Bro :)
Do you have to be 60 to do this?
Hey man! Do you think lvling will be near impossible come P2 in two weeks? Love this guide!
Can you not pickpocket the first boss before you get him down? Nice video btw.
Can anyone confirm if you can get arcane crystals from the gem bags? I clearly remember it not being a thing but a rogue in my guild is claiming he got one the other day.
@@Apoptosis808GK I think I would remember sense that would be a 40-50 gold per run.
I don't understand how this macro works :-S What's the keybinding? Mine just says you have no target.
Sorry for the late reply friend, missed this comment. You have to be in range and have your mouse hovering over the target you want to use this macro on. Then you hit the keybind you set that macro to (lets say 1) and itll pick pocket your hover mouse target. Hope this helps!
how much gold you think it is without doing the coffer keys?
Apoptosis 808 coffer keys going for 30-35s each on my server so doesn’t seem worth
Apoptosis 808 one last question, can you get epics from pickpocketing or just the coffers ?
I’m defs gonna need that improved sap I got bodied without it
Does this still work or did patch it out?
I don't think it's been patched out but I haven't tested it in a long time!
just spec hemo coldblood, then u have 2 vanishes so you pretty much never fuck up
Really nice Video !
But I wouldn't risk to pickpocket when my vanish is on CD haha~
What's the addon that shows the castbar of the enemy ?
@@Apoptosis808GK appreciate man !
YOU HAVE FELSTRIKER?!! lmao
Jesus lol how many runs?
@@franciscorodriguez9020 He got it on the first UBRS run from trash.
"You can't kill the first boss unless you're sub" - I kill him all the time as combat easily. You used a potion and vanished the adds. As combat I dump all 3 in 30 seconds
@@Apoptosis808GK I can see where you're coming from here but I actually believe the contrary. I noticed you did significantly less damage as sub, taking significantly more damage. As combat I kill all 3 mobs with ease. No potion or bandage if I want. I may try to post a clip here soon.
@@Apoptosis808GK clips.twitch.tv/BombasticDeterminedWrenJKanStyle
I didnt get any early crits here either. He usually dies much much quicker
I second this, I do this farm as my combat swords raid spec, don’t have any points in sub and can always kill this guy without issue. I usually just sap him blade flurry Adds and then burn him down after. I still think sub would be the way to go as it speeds up your pick pocketing and g/h but if you don’t want to respec, combat is still viable
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13:26
Awesome
Both bosses are way easier as combat not sub.
bruh u said NOTHING about an immolate...
lol Hagrid does playing WoW!?
click click click
vanish is broken
>dagger rogue
>using sinister strike
are you the guy? You are the guy aren't you...
almost broke into character at or about 4:20.
just sayn...
@@Apoptosis808GK Ha! its you!
@@1richardknowles oh man...you're right! I think... he definitely might be the guy. If so, I love it. Nothing like a good rivalry ;]
@@Apoptosis808GK dont worrie, your secret will be well guarded lol
Why did you paint your nails black...
@@Apoptosis808GK Because I'm not emotional, desire attention, or care to do woman-like activities. That's just me though.
I don't care if you do though, it's your body and humanly right, to do as you please with your body. Was just asking out of curiosity.
@@Apoptosis808GK Well then keep on, keeping on. All power to you, if it makes you happy than do it. Thanks for the video as well
clickin every mob to PP is way too time consuming dude .. at least TAB thru them .. way faster
plugger dosnt aggro, when you pickpoket him ^^
atleast not for me
Everyone making gold guide , and they all got little gold on their bags
keeping a lot of gold in your inventory is a sign that you don't know how to invest :)
Another one :D
19:23 lol dude paints his nails black ''scary'' rogue fella
Dagger and double crusader ? Yikes
this is no where near 60 gold! ITS A SCAM
Shut up noob.