"Living Conditions" (4x2) | *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- I hope you enjoy my reaction to Season Four, Episode Two of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer': "Living Conditions".
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I love this episode. It tickles me whenever writers take a character who holds up well under enormous pressure and have them gradually lose their shit over mundane annoyances.
Rule 1; the crazier Buffy sounds the more likely she is to be right.
The term "Scooby Gang was first used in the season 2 episode "What's My Line.". Xander tells Cordelia "If you want to be part of the Scooby Gang...."
Someone elsewhere thought (a main character's eventual partner) was the first to use the phrase then everyone was quick to correct them that it was used way before s5.
Short Sad Story: in the italian dub they *never* use the term Scooby Gang.😢💔
@@Nicamon awww, that's terrible! 😔
@@Nicamon did scooby doo have the same cultural importance over there that it did here?
@@matte5705 Yes,but I've noticed they avoided to put several pop culture references,including the time they mentioned Xena...I'm not sure why,if it was a copyright problem or a way to make the show more timeless or something else...
In television world, dorm rooms and apartments are always huge. The reason is so they can have room to fit in all the camera equipment on the set.
They managed to do it realistic enough for Gilmore Girls.
My in-world explanation is that this is the only way that Sunnydale U can attract students, cheap education and large dorms (which kind-of makes sense since the property costs in Sunnydale is cheap).
@zenithquasar9623 they don't need room for fight scenes 😅 from what I've read before they were realistic of Yale living quarters, but they varied in size apparently depending on cost.
@@paulinerobertson6836 edit:sorry I'm an idiot and didn't see the contex. Again sorry!
@@Henrik_Holst I love that theory!
I think this one gets somewhat overlooked in favour of the more high profile episodes of S4 which is a shame I think its hilarious.
It is a great comedic episode
This is one of my favourite monster of the week episodes. Its comedy gold
Buffy making eye contact with Kathy as she chugs her milk is iconic.
Oz was not hypnotized or anything else in the scene where he went on patrol with Buffy. After she smashed the park bench he realized she was acting crazy, and when she said something has to be done he said "agreed"-- though while she meant about Kathy, he meant about Buffy.
Your expression when Buffy ripped off Kathy's face. Priceless. You broke the number 1 rule. Never doubt Buffy's intuition.
xander's reaction when he and oz go to check buffy's ropes never ceases to crack me up
Favorite line of the episode
Especially a part that was cut out for RUclips, when Xander chuckles and then says "Oh, dear God!"
@@ronfehr7899 yup
I feel this episode in my bones. Not because of any of my roommates, but because of my parents. My dad used to play that song on repeat, and not only is my mom's name Kathi, but she shares every annoying trait with the character Kathy. And more.
Does your dad own a lot of rainbow flags?
@dubiouswretch No, but I do! Even us queers were getting annoyed by the song, as much as we love Cher. It was way overplayed. My dad was actually a huge homophobe. My entire family still are (my dad is dead). I'm no-contact with my family now
Did your mom's fingernails keep growing after they were cut? Ironing jeans? Those are two sure signs of demonage.
LMAO
@TheRetroGuy2000 I was stupid not to check! She is super controlling, so everything had to have the appearance of perfection, even knowing it wasn't. Everything had to be neatly on display in the home to help hide the fact that it was covered in a layer of dust because we hadn't dusted in almost 2 months. It was all appearances and control... just like Buffy's Kathy.
Your puppy hears the Cher song and is asking Kathy to turn it off too.
It's a funny coincidence that around the same time Cass uploaded this vid another RUclipsr dropped their reaction to a South Park ep which includes a distorted parody version of the same Cher song
@@dubiouswretchi always think of that episode of south park lmao
"Roommate from Hell." heh-heh...
😄 I think it's great how much Oz's interaction threw you off the scent because I don't think I've seen someone so shocked with the reveal.
I think the first time the word "Scoobie" was mentioned (at least in relation to the gang) is in Season 2, when Cordelia gave Xander a lift to Buffy's house, and they ended up running from a maggot guy and had to endure each other's company in the cellar. Oh, and they kissed for the first time.
This is one of my favourite fun episodes of Buffy. Definitely a good comfort watch.
There have been a few times over the years where my mum has told me that I need to iron my jeans and I always reference this episode when she does 😂
i think we can all agree that this season is the funniest
Definitely
Those tight zooms and squinty eye edits are very well done. First the ketchup on sweater, then Willow eating Buffy's sandwich
People, in-universe and fans of the show talk about how Buffy was losing it over mundane annoyances, but fans tend to forget she was losing her soul. What would Buffy be like if Giles didn't consider Buffy words to be potentially true enough to do research, and she lost her soul to her roommate? When it comes to slaying I will always trust Buffy's slayer intuition (dating intuition is another matter), whether she's under a spell, in the middle of having her soul pulled from her body, or anything else slayer-related. She says Kathy is evil. I would believe it before dismissing it for her just finding Kathy an annoyance and/or being overworked. Especially in Sunnydale. Considering how long the Scoobies have lived there and what they've seen in the last three and a half years, I think them dismissing Buffy all the way until Giles tells them she's right, with them needing to have "big remorse..." that doesn't sit well with me.
"What would Buffy be like if" - What I did notice was that she changed her makeup to be like how Mirror Buffy applied it. Not that no-soul Buffy would be like MirrorBuffy ofc but perhaps a transitional stage :)
There are so many great standalone episodes in S4, it has a few of my most watched ones honestly.
That's why I'll never understand people who say it's the worst season or 1 of the worst.
@@Nicamon Eh, the season long arc falls apart and the big bad is kinda lame in 4 so thats unfortunate. But that was out of their control due to things that happened in real life behind the scenes. I get why that might sour some on the season even if it didn't bother me.
I'll personally take S4's stand alone episodes over S6's arc of pointless misery-porn any day though.
@@troikas3353 Damn right!!
I don't think anyone on-screen has called then the Scooby gang or if they will do again, but fans were already calling them that long before SMG was in Scooby-Doo.
"Well, we should discourage her from doing that." -- Gilesism.
TBH I think Buffy did know Kathy was a demon. Back at the start in S1 when Buffy and Giles were at the Bronze, he told her she should be able to sense a vampire in the room without having to think about it. Now Buffy joked about it by pointing out a vamp purely based on his attire, but when you consider this is meant to be a true slayer skill, it's highly likely she was sensing Kathy was a demon subconsciously and rather than becoming consciously aware of it it may her more susceptible to the little annoyances making her seem crazy.
I think they abandoned that idea, because not only is Buffy not able to tell vampires from "vibe" alone (if they're wearing their human faces and she doesn't have incriminating context clues to go on, she tends to be caught by surprise,) Kendra and Faith don't seem to have that power either (Kendra thought Buffy was a vampire because she saw her kissing Angel and she only seems to realise that Buffy isn't a vampire because Buffy doesn't bring out the fangs during their fight, and Faith can't have had this power because she accidentally staked a human.)
I think Buffy was the stopped clock telling the right time twice a day. When she had all her faculties, she showed no signs of thinking Cathy was anything more than a roommate she was having a little trouble getting used to, and when she does start saying Cathy's evil, she's lashing out at inanimate objects, blaming Cathy for things that are her own fault and getting paranoid that Cathy is _stealing her dreams._ All signs point to Buffy only thinking Cathy was a demon because she was really annoying and they were both being driven over the edge by the partial soul transfer.
I love that Céline Dion + Cher fan = Demon in the Buffyverse (and yeah, in real life too, who’re we kidding?)
I swear this is the second time I have seen a reaction of this episode and a persons pet reacted to that scene. Either it is the song or they know what is going to happen.
I have no college roommate stories - UK unis generally have single rooms and you only have to share a bathroom. I’m so glad, because I went to boarding school and by 18 I had had more than my fair share of sleeping in a room with other people! 😂
This episode was better than I remembered it being. I normally skip past it! Thank you for the fun recap.
This is exactly why s4 is probably the best season when it comes to monster of the week episodes, they are all iconic and Cass is gonna have a blast😂❤
i love how cathy finds a ton of literal weapons, stakes and crosses hidden in the closet and is like "ah, whatever, I just want a clean shirt"
Even if she wasn't a demon, this pretty much sums up the average Sunnydale student's reaction to anything odd or supernatural 😆
I have to admit that I had three different roommates during my first 2 years in college in a dorm. We generally got along just fine, and no one hated anyone. But seriously, the size of that room? I went to a very small college, expensive in the day (even more so today) and the dorms were nowhere near that big. We had a really bad Resident Assistant, named Manny, but I will assume that you were a good RA. But those of us in the dorm detested him so much that we would often block his door by moving a soft drink dispensing machine in front of his door. And he would have to call campus security to get out of his room unless he wanted to crawl out of a window.
You asked for college dorm stories, and there you go. Do I feel bad about the way we treated Manny? No, not at all. He tried to control us, and we demonstrated that he should have just left us alone.
Now, to the episode. Could Parker be a romantic interest? We'll see.
Thank you as always for reacting. I always look forward to your take on each episode.
Such a fun reaction! I think there are quite a few episodes in season 4 that have a good 'comfort rewatch' quality, so I think you'll really enjoy it!
I didn't expect this so soon. Thank you so much.
Since you asked about College Dorm experiences: My cousins roommate sophomore year (who would be my roommate Junior and Senior year) built a second floor complete with carpet in their dorm. He built it by buying 5 lofts and adding plywood between the raised beds. It was incredibly sturdy too. An Offensive lineman for the school's team did pullups on it, from the beams, without it shifting or swaying even a millimeter. After that year, the school banned students from purchasing and using their own lofts as a result of his 2-story dorm room (and yes, they confirmed that they changed the policy because of him).
My senior year, he had 8 computers in our dorm room (9 in total counting mine) 3 of the computers where powerful enough to play Diablo 2 on and we had Diablo 2 and Starcraft lan parties in our room Friday nights from 8pm till Saturday morning 8-10am. The dorm we lived in Senior year had what where called "pods" that were 4 bedrooms with a common living room that connected to the hallway. We were only allowed 1 fridge per 3 students so we could only have 2 total fridges for the 8 of us in 4 rooms, so we kept both fridges in the common room and declared 1 fridge to be the common fridge (anything inside was fair game) and the other fridge was the private fridge (If you didn't put it in, you didn't take it out). That system worked really well. No one violated the sanctity of the Private fridge. We'd each pool in some money and once every couple of months we'd take a trip to Walmart and buy about a dozen cases of pop to keep the common fridge stocked.
I aways wondered where the Scooby phrase came from too, and I basically thought for the same reason that you did.
and you thought wrong!
At least Willow asked permission before taking a bite from Buffy's sandwich.
The live action Scooby Doo movie starring SMG came out in 2002, so no, they were not calling themselves that because of the movie, that role came later
I think it was in season 1 when Willow had her C.S.I. kit in a Scooby-Doo lunch box.
"Hypnotization situation" I love that!
Buffy swallowing the gum so she could deny leaving gum on the nightstand.
Willow said "you gonna finish this?" That's a good start...but you're supposed to wait for an answer, not make an assumption that the answer is what you want it to be! Willow might be just a little self-centered... 😂
Awesome way to end this episode. I almost dropped my coffee cup. LOL
Before I start watching, I just want to say that I appreciate the thumbnail. A+ job.
I enjoy when Buffy refers to herself with pop culture things like "no fun Buffy"
Or Saint Buffy ... B.C. Buffy it's so sorry on the spot fun adds to what I am a Scoobie Gang for ...and about the Scooby gang thing yes she was in Scooby movie but the fans refer to them early on as Scooby gang that it was implemented into the show as the culture as you see xander refer to it then came Buffy casted in Scooby doo movies ..I called her Buffy haha, Sarah Michelle Gellar casted in those movies.
plus Sarah Michelle Gellar wasn't in the Scooby Doo movie until around season 6. so this is definitely still way before she even knew she was gonna play Daphne in the live action.
Your predictions were excellent for this episode.
Hi Cass, I know you were watching Angel on your Patreon, and I’m not ready to commit to that right now. But if you see a connection between the two shows, while you were watching angel, could you just give a little nod to it in your Buffy commentary? Like I know in the first episode of Angel, we see that it was Angel who called Buffy on the phone and hung up. You don’t need to give a long chat about Angel, but it would be nice to know if you’re seeing the connections/crossover storylines while just watching BtVS.
People really need to listen to Buffy, shes a demon expert duh.
My college life:
I actually didn't live on campus during college. I rented a separate place with my youngest brother, who was also I college.
I had gone to Bible school for two years prior to going to college, which explains why my brother and I were going there at the same time.
Buffy was an only child that's why she's a little bratty when she gets a roommate as she's not used to sharing a room with someone and it was easy of us audience to side with her because Kathy was pretty quirky and later slowly sucking her literal soul.
In college, I'd go to the dining hall in a hoodie and military BDU pants. I could smuggle half a dozen donuts out in the pockets and hood.
Not sure when else, but they call them the scoobies all the way back in Go Fish.
One thing I think it's important to remember is that Buffy is an only child - she's never had to share before. She's bound to be on the back foot when it deals with having a roommate. That's not to excuse Kathy 'borrowing; hersweater and things like that - but, yeah, if Buffy had ever had a little sister she might have been a bit more forgiving.
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I just noticed recently that Parker is in a couple of Law & Order or SVU episodes. He’s not only gorgeous, but quite a good actor, in one he plays a high school senior whose been sexually abused by his adopted dad since he was 8, and he finally ends it. I don’t know if he is still acting or not but I hope so.
Adam Kaufman, who played Parker, is still acting. He was married to actress Poppy Montgomery ("Without A Trace", "Unforgettable").
I caught him in an ep of Veronica Mars, too.
But I'm dying to know Cassie's reaction to Angel? And the cast! I respect Cassie's decision, but can we at least discuss it in the Buffy videos?
You will need to react to Angel as well as Buffy. Also you need to react in episode order with Angel after Buffy.
That discussion has been had, and it's already in order.
@@vampyre_with_a_suntanRUclipsrs have a right to beg for Angel. Normally when you start an episode of Buffy you reference Angel and talk about both from this point on.
@@jeanetteking434No need to beg! As she’s declared, she’s not doing Angel on RUclips, and that’s the end of the story. You can find that on Patreon if you would like (:
She doesn't NEED to do either of those things lol
You can certainly feel a certain way about it .. but the reasons for things being the way they are have been explained 118 times at this point. @@jeanetteking434
Lovely reaction as always!
My dog is called Buffy
first time scooby gang was in season 2
I miss Angel Long live Angel Buffy did get over him fast though
I’m pretty sure (though my memory may be tricking me) that “Scooby Gang started on the official posting board for the show (called “The Bronze” for obvious reasons), and that the writers picked it up from there and started using it in the show. But regardless, as others pointed out it first showed up in Season 2. (I started watching it and joined the posting board around then, which is why I may be wrong about which came first.). So it does fast predate the Scooby movies. 😂
02:54 - 03:12 For a moment I thought the barking was from the episode and I was like:"I don't remember a dog being in this scene.🤨"then I realized it was _your_ dog.😄🐶
05:53 - 05:58 Not _this_ one.😁😉 08:27 - 08:58 The Scooby Gang _is_ a thing,but not in the italian dubbing,unfortunately.😭💔 The 1st movie came out when"Buffy"was almost over.
I agree about passive-aggressive people. I can't deal with them.😡💢 14:21 - 14:28 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐 20:13 - 🤣🤣🤣😱😱😱
I feel bad for Kathy. I didn't like her,but I feel bad for her.🙁 23:03 Look at our short king!!🥺🧡
Its one of the most funniest episodes of buffy
This episode is hilarious 🤣
I've never thought about this despite all the times I've watched this ep but -- What was she doing with a carton of eggs? Even if they have a hotplate, the whole room would smell like a diner all the time. Obviously evil!!
13:17 god ive never looked at the plastic baggie box parker gives her, "Tightly" brand "stays really tight" "seals tighter than ..."
I reckon it's one of them fake prop brands, like Let's potato chips.
@@Xhalph definitely, it's just funny prop design
kathy lol ,nothing but love stories
had my own apartment for my brief time in college
I love my college roomate... great dude. But man... he used to walk around and would randomly close one nostril, and shoot boogers out the other one. I caught him doing it in the apartment with nothing to catch it. Roomates are... complicated.
The best season 🙏🏻
I feel a little bad for Kathy, she was only trying to get an education
Living Conditions, was quite and interesting episode in that it is showing Buffy going from adolescent to adult. Having now to cope with things that as a child she didn't have to deal with. I am sure that many watching it have been in similar situations when leaving home and having the share with flatmates, and being irritated by the smallest things. Again S4 was strange in that after the High School years the show had to find a new direction. A fairly decent episode, but with some great comedy moments.
On the 'Scooby Gang' thing - this was broacast in the early 2000s - the internet - and internet fandom was just, just starting to be 'a thing;'. - and the beginnings of the quick feedback loop that fed directly from the fans into the writerrs' room also began about this time. I can't remember of 'Scoobies' came from the fandom or not - but it might well have done.
I wouldn't be surprised. Spike was only made a main character because of intense positive fan reception.
there was an unofficial fan forum and also WB had a forum called "The Bronze" where we all gathered online, it was like a chat room and we would go there and react and comment on episodes, fan theories etc, I don't remember fans calling the gang the scoobies then, but could have been in one of those forums where it was cooked up. I remember it was fun though because writers, actors and even Joss himself would pop in from time to time, they had a special VIP color to their handles, so you always knew when it was them on the official forum. Good times!
Another solid reaction. There are few things that are put into place for the future but they are not germane to the story. Typical BTVS… things and stories for later having seeds planted before the audience or anyone else can know but on rewatch you go … aahh. So when you think you notice something just relax and enjoy. It will be explained later… sometimes years later. You are great fun to react and watch with and keep doing what you have fun doing.Many times we fans of Buffy try to examine and interpret so much and we forget how much fun and entertainment value the show has In every episode from now to the end. BTW.. when I watched this originally I knew Kathy was evil when she was clipping her toe nails and having them stay on the floor. Only a demon could do that without any shame.
I'm a season 4 supporter. At least 5 top 25 episodes in S4. Sadly it takes awhile before we get to any of them...
I believe The Scooby Gang was started by fans in S1. I think.
I despise "Believe."
Oz didn't say, "about you." Just that something needs to be done.
I didn't have horrible college roommate issues.
Prob by fans in S1 and then the show picked it up in S2 (they where quite receptive to pick up fan things from the Internet), replacing "The Slayerettes" that they used early in S1.
@Henrik_Holst Joss and some of the other writers were regulars on the Buffy Posting Board (The Bronze) as was Alyson in 1997-98. Joss loved getting fan feedback immediately after the episodes aired.
A roomate from hell. Only in the hellmouth. Welcome to Sunnydale U.
yay
Kathy effectively being hauled off by the ear by her dad will never not be hilarious.
I do feel for her though.. all girlie wanted was to sharpen her pencils, keep tabs on the phone bill and bang it out to Cher.
4x3 is a "skip credits!!" btw.
Angel 1x1 Reaction Жду будет круто.
Не дождёшься.
@@migmit Это почему не дождусь надо и Ангела смотреть если его не смотреть потом нечего не поймёт дальше в сюжет они связаны оба сериала. все так делали кто Реагирует.
@@user-tx8ic5yl5c Потому что она уже сказала, что реакции на Ангела будет выкладывать только на Patreon.
@@migmit Тут надо тоже это выкладывать а то Фанаты обидятся все так делают кто реагируют сейчас на эти сериалы они ина Ютубе это в сё выкладавают ина Патрионе ну на Патрионе там за деньги всё.
@@user-tx8ic5yl5c Most fans who would take offense - already did and left. The only ones who remain are idiots who can't comprehend what is clearly stated in the very video they watch. Everybody else is just grateful for what they've been given.
I remember thinking...we had Cordelia (if buffy wasn't the slayer) faith (if buffy went dark) kathy...must be if buffy had a sister, I think my guess holds up.....but the looking position thing is better
Hi, please don't take this as an offense here but what about a season 3 summary episode like the ones you published at the end of the first 2 seasons? I liked those a lot and would really appreciate it.
Hope you go on to enjoy S#4
Spoilers
"Is he going to be evil or dead by the end of the episode" If only...
Your mistake was assuming Buffy was "the one". that colored the rest of the events in your head trying to figure out what was happening instead of Kathy being "the one" the demons were looking for. Classic Whedon
Did kind of feel sorry for Kathy. If her family had just left her alone none of this would have happened as Kathy was only sucking Buffy's soul to throw those hunting her off her trail.
They were both passive aggressive, and Buffy was a terrible roommate almost the entire episode.
That can happen when someone is stealing your soul.
gottem
Only tuned in for the intro to see if you had changed your nind about angel
She explained her decision last episode, she did change her mind. Instead of not filming Angel at all, she’s filming it and throwing that rough uncut footage on Patreon! (:
Obviously I was talking about RUclips reactions.
@@syprior1138 No worries, she’s already made her decision there, nothing to change her mind about! That bonus Angel is there on Patreon now if you want it!! (:
If it was edited footage on patreon I could consider it, I don't have time to watch whole episodes. I respect her decision and will miss their reactions.
The definition of cult is not "a group of people."
"Promo SM" 😀
Where is angel series
As she explained last episode, instead of not filming Angel at all like she initially planned, she’s filming it and putting the rough uncut footage on Patreon! (:
@@coreyissus that doesn't make sense
@@matthewlangley5794 what do you mean by that? seems fairly clear, how can i help clarify
SLAYYYY
Your nonsensical takes on things are hilarious.
why the hell do americans share rooms in college? its weird.
in my opinion season 4 is one of the worst seasons. the weirdest thing? it has some of the best episodes. I think that is definitely an accomplishment
This is by far my least favourite episode... Pure filler without anything interesting to add in the big picture department...
Probably I won't find it so annoying if it wasn't for the ending of the previous episode...
The writer of this episode is almost a guaranteed Star Trek Original Series fan. Some Trelane action going on here.
Maybe - but I think it's more similar to Trouble with Tribbles. They both derive humour from the stalwart hero of the series, who has saved civilisations by keeping their cool in a crisis, completely failing to keep their cool when confronted by minor annoyances.
Kirk doesn't descend into a murderous rage, but he spends most of the episode either huffily trying to hold onto his dignity and utterly failing or getting very catty with his irritating bureaucrat bosses.
@@Talisguy I meant the powerful other worldly creature that was being bad getting dragged away by it's parents and saving the protagonists in the end.
I think it would go without doubt that many of the writers including Joss was TOS fans. Babylon 5 was also a huge inspiration (and also compare S4x22 of B5 with S4x22 with Buffy, very strange coincidence).
@republicoftexas3261 Nicely spotted! I think of that Star Trek episode ending every time I watch this one. I think it's been pretty well established that the whole Mutant Enemy team are (like us 😁) pop culture fanboy geeks.