Well to be honest, I'm glad he didn't sign him. J.Cole doesn't fit G Unit. He has built his own brand and came a very long way and is considered one of the greatest artists in this generation! G Unit had who they needed and they were a great group, I still go and listen to some of their older music today. Edited: Then J. Cole put together his own dream team, Dreamville!!
And g unit was trash that's why it didn't last very long at all, cool concept but 50 didn't have no business signing other artist while still trying to manage his own music career, now would of been a perfect time to have a g unit type group of artists
Cole has also signed much better talent than any of them g unit thugs 50 signed except Lloyd banks he was decent as a rapper & the best one out of g unit except w 50 being the boss lol. Although it is 2 very different styles of music and diff eras so kinda stupid to compare eras lol
@@YearOfTheTitan93 facts besides cole would have never looked right joining a rap group like them.. he was always going to be a solo artist... imagine j cole on g unit wtf nah son that's some other universe type shit.
@@Blackwoman12345 exactly lmao He was member of G-unit from 2014 to 2018. He was also a member of Sqad Up way back in the day with Cash Money/Young Money.
Fif called it right, @ a time in Hip Hop a lot of listeners were into street rap, hood rap, came along way from the conscious rap. J Cole was already on a different level of being great not just good. RESPECT
idk when I hear cole I don't think super conscious raps I think of regular hood nigga that work a 9 to 5 that got something to talk about he not a super gansta thug but he ain't no od complex rapper talking about the mother africas and shit lmao js he inbetween to me people stretch it same shit with kendrick lamar I don't get a mos def or tribe called quest when I hear them at all
@@meladgoat nah 50 was right, that era hadn’t start or was just barely getting started around that time J Cole would not have fit in with G-Unit It was all about being street And tbh we shouldn’t be mad, Cole wouldn’t be who he is today if that had happened
@@coldleo4950 any rapper who takes time to engage in introspection and talk about the hypocrisies of this fast life of riches and fame that we idolize is conscious. He is aware of the contradictions in rap music today and the lives of most underprivileged black people. He appreciates things in life that aren’t necessary materialistic, and he tries to inform other young rappers about the dangers of this business. He’s open about how people self medicate with drugs that hurt their bodies yet the very genre he is within glorifies shit that kills niggas. Being conscious and woke doesn’t translate to talking about Africa. He is open about exploring the issues that plague marginalized groups right here in the states. Transparency and vulnerability is consciousness.
To be fair. At that point and time. No one was really trying to hear that type of music. So he was correct in his decision. Just like diddy not signing chris brown early on. Sometimes its just not the right time for that talent to be heard or seen. Update: I didn’t mean to start a debate 🤦🏽
Facts and them signing these artists could’ve also ruined their career. Everything happens at tha right time and at tha right place. It would’ve never worked having j.Cole on tha unit at that time. Real hip hop music wasn’t really putting up them numbers when that gangsta rap was running tha Industry. Only a few and mainly tha Goats.
@@truthbringer-6748 Cap. Do I really need to drop a ton of good talent, underground artists that hardly no one listens to? I argued with people about this on another thread and shut them down quick Talent doesn’t matter much these days. If that we’re true, a lot of the people I’ve listened to on the underground would have been big. It’s more about commercialized music that matters now and marketing
@@cameronboakye8457 correctamundo. but u not saying much by bringing up the present. aint NOBODY dropping a G-UNIT intro call nowadays not even 50 himself. a Hungry, i mean starving artist Cole would have absolutely murdad a GggGggG- man c’mon.
HUSSLEKING Life Exactly bro. 50 was only at that time was signing hip hop artists that had that hardcore street image. Jim Jones said that he & Cam'Ron pass up on signing J. Cole as well because he wasn't street. I personally think that had J. Cole sign to G-Unit or Diplomat it would have not done anything for his career.
This made me rock with Tony Tayo even harder. Real recognize real and he understand you don’t gotta be close minded just because you street. Respect. 💯
Exactly. 50 never said he wasn't talented he just knew Cole wasn't the right type of artist to fit the G Unit image. Ultimately I think 50 not signing Cole was the best move for both their careers
Honestly, that would have been the move for G-Unjt at the time. They were sliding off as everyone was getting older and the newer crowd would have kept it going and then some
@@chezuanvevo cap nigga banks is way better than game name one freestyle Lloyd Banks has repeated the same freestyle and shit just because an artist isn't consistent doesn't make him better
Nobody is ever ready (according to the machine) until it drops and it goes. They're really saying THEY didn't want to promote that at that time. People resonate to what resonates, when available.
I think this proves Yayo has a talent that 50 may wanna explore more. Cole is a once in a lifetime talent and Fif passed on it and that’s cool. I think he’s better with Jay anyway but Yayo seen something in him and his excitement says a lot.
Yea plus they had Dre and slim in they corner back then. Imagine how cole's production would've matured being around dre and collaborating with him early on.
@@thenotoriousroc3508 ... You obviously never seen Jim Jones group MOB, it was a bunch of street dudes he signed. Just look at what happened to all the members outside of Jim himself. Stack Bundles, murdered while going back to his project home. Max B, doing life for robbery & murder. Mel Murda, snitched on by Tekashi and went down with the other 9Trey members. Now Cam'ron was bringing out less hood talent between Juelz & Vado but Jim damn near was signing gang members.
Nah he just wanted a hard artist all the time.. it was impossible to think Cole couldn't succeed at that time when Kanye did...Cole was a branch off of Kanye and 50 didn't respect Kanye because he was considered soft That's why when they was promoting their battle, 50 stayed throwing shots at Kanye's rapping by sayin he only likes his production.. Unfortunately, that's also why 50's career went down so quickly because he lost sight of what the culture considered hot and he was full of himself to even challenge Kanye when both of their 2nd albums were 1 mil and 900,000 That alone should've showed 50 that so called soft rap was being accepted.. this is why Jay signed Cole because he seen the masses accept Kanye during the gangsta era.. it was a shift happening that 50 refused to accept.. and that's the real reason for him not seeing Cole's potential and G-UNIT failing
@@tfromcali89 bruh did you even read it to comprehend?? I never said it wasn't conscious rap.... I just said that idk how 50 didn't know if it would be well received by the masses when Kanye was living proof of how well that style was received by the masses.. it all boils down to relateability and good music and he(50) didn't get that point
I remember Jim Jones saying the same thing about J.Cole on why he didn't sign him cause he wasn't representing where he came from.. I.e the Streets etc.
50 is being honest though. Back when Simba, Lost Ones & Lights Please were recorded in ‘07 & ‘08 what was smashing the airwaves in those days? 50’s candy shop, RichBoy’s Throw Some D’s, A Bay Bay!!!
Yes and no, but the sounds of rap are so diversified, it’s kind of hard to distinguish between a backpack/street rapper. Like what would Uzi, Carti and Travis Scott be considered? Lil Baby and Durk are definitely street rappers.
@@tiger_lord305 True, the genre has definitely expanded, & I think Travis and Uzi are in a different wheel house, they don’t have the substance of a Kendrick and Cole, but they’re also not really street artists, maybe the “turn up” rapper/singer should be what they’re considered
@@triplebeans4159 Not true exactly. Hip hop started from giving young black & Latino men & woman opportunities that came from lower income background. The foundation of hip hop wasn’t prioritized for being street. Hip hop became more street after NWA became popular
@@bonginkosipeter8075 I disagree with that Because to me 50 had the hits + vision He said it before he even did it That's with the music, movies and television ect I mean he did sign Banks, Yayo, Buck and Game They did very well with each solo project That was put out At that time And yes 50 & The Unit made a huge impact on the culture But i understand you though And what you saying
@@bonginkosipeter8075 I can't name one But i will say this The unit definitely shook the culture up When they came out Had everybody wanting to be like them Had everybody talking like them Dressing like them Wearing Gunit sneakers and clothes Playing their video games 50 and the unit definitely impacted the culture like Tupac and left their mark I'm from Cali But when 50 and the unit came out They had me wanting to be from New York And this is coming from a dude who loves his State to death Will go anywhere and represent California But they definitely shook up the hip hop culture
It would of been super fire and different, my brother canei finch was signed to sha money as a producer and song writer on a production deal and he was hanging with j cole and just blaze heavy before j cole blew up
Prodigy said on his DVD that he loved all the conscious rappers like Krs One, Mos Def, De la soul n Dem but in reality niggas in the neighborhood wasn't really into that & was into the grimy street music or gangsta rap & I felt where he was coming from. I mean me in my early 40s, I accept rappers like J.cole & Kendrick but when I was younger growing up in the 90s, I didn't care about no conscious rapper & I was only bumping Mc Eiht, Scarface, Mobb deep, DMX, Biggie, Raekwon & Ghostface n all dat, basically all the gangsta rap because I was young & still in the streets & that was all we all related to at that time & we wasn't on dat save the world shit but now as a grown man I wished I accepted the conscious rappers & they actually do have a positive message in their music their music but I love all regardless
to be honest though I think the term ''conscious'' is misused in hip hop because even with some of those street rappers you mentioned were very conscious dmx nas biggie 2pac all them were bringing some level of consciousness awareness and even intelligence to the audience that was not here before. Even 50 cent was somewhat conscious, so I think what people mean is positive rap because they get on their high horse to decide what is positive is and when its just playing respectability politics hip hop has always been about the reality of the streets since the beginning
@@hiphopdagame Banks overooked just in your world clown, J Cole can´t make a classic album, forever Top 60 greatest rappers, Banks still on Biggie, Rakim, G Rap, and Dmx´s level
@@ducatarina I don’t know about classic album, but he definitely has a classic mixtape. Friday Night Lights is Cole’s best project and the Warm Up is another one.
Glad it didn’t happen…As someone who has been following Cole since the mixtape era he wouldn’t have fit…He made his own lane and it fits for him..Let alone Dreamville…Best move 50 never did…
This is why I say kayne West was important in hip hop because before graduation came out. All the rappers before graduation relied on the same gangster formula that has been working for years up to that point. But when 2007 hit the rap game changed people like Soulja Boy was getting popular. The internet was more influential in how we listen to music. But when Kayne dropped Graduation that album literally killed gangster rap. The formula that dipset and 50 cent used wasn’t working anymore. So in 2005 and 06 a j Cole wouldn’t work but when kayne dropped his album in 2007. People like J Cole, Kendrick and Drake were able to slip in and reach unimaginable heights. This is relevant still to this day since we are literally a few weeks away from the 15 anniversary of graduation and Curtis being dropped. 50 Cent never fully recovered after Curtis.
It was a good pass up. Even now, I couldn't see Cole as a believable part of G. Unit. Cole is my all time favorite rapper, and the one flaw I find with his music is that he pretends like he's a shooter when he's clearly not a killer. The lines are dope, though. But, he doesn't fit with the image or vibe of G-Unit. I'd see him signing, not getting along stylistically, ending up beefing with 50, and his career being hindered because of it. It's for the best he passed.
One thing that’s definite, is that he would have eventually ended up disrespecting J. Cole in public over something. Not sure for what reason but him going at J. Cole would have been inevitable.
It didn’t fit during that time 50 cent just hit the vitamin water deal he was set for life!!! He was dating Ciara and was suppose to Marry her so he was not focused on music!
@@AA-ji2my Kanye West didn’t fit during that time neither but he made that time fit, instead of worrying what the wave is at the time someone has to create the wave get what I’m saying?
@@LilGrimey5Star you're making your own things up There's no way JCole would've got in with G-unit it has nothing to do with talent just different styles.
@@triplebeans4159 different styles? Are you dumb? G Unit is a record label, it doesn’t have a style, Interscope is a record label, it doesn’t have a style, a record label signs different types of talent, singers, rappers, whatever 🤦🏽♂️
Same interview they asked him "did Game write What up Gangsta" He said "Game wasn't around back then". Yet J Cole was and NO one knew him. I'm saying is Game could had been around, but no one KNEW him.
Let me say this, there is a good reason this didn’t happen. He would be the J Cole we all know. He wouldn’t have gotten the same beats or attention. Remember G Unit was big but people wasn’t messing with them like that.
I feel the same way no offense to j Cole & Kendrick but I was listening to mos def which did introduce j Cole which he did fit in the ecstatic album but I heard atcq, the roots, common, black sheep, da bush babeez, de la soul & their music is way more complex. But I like that they are successful & inspiring positivity but I haven't even reached their music yet.
By 2010 skinny jean, blog era rappers where already getting popular, kid cudi, drake, wale , j.cole, wiz khalifa, big krit, currensy all were poppin. The writing was on the wall when kanye did 808s, point is passing on cole for that reason was dumb cuz those type of rappers were already proving to be the new trend, while gangster rappers at this time were tired and played out, and the new ones weren’t breaking out unless u was trap rapper from the south
He coulda signed him and let him do features until he thought it was his time. Let him get some money in his pocket and exposure... but everything worked out the way it should have. And he's showing no signs of fatigue. Just waiting for the Tobe Nwigwe feature...
I'm grateful that J Cole didn't change himself just to fit in the streets. He stayed true to himself since day one and in the end, it all paid off.
Facts 💯
Well to be honest, I'm glad he didn't sign him. J.Cole doesn't fit G Unit. He has built his own brand and came a very long way and is considered one of the greatest artists in this generation! G Unit had who they needed and they were a great group, I still go and listen to some of their older music today.
Edited: Then J. Cole put together his own dream team, Dreamville!!
That's exactly what I was thinking he won't a g unit fit
He also didn’t fit Roc Nation either G, mans was standing out at the roc building tryna get Jay’s attention.
@@johntemple2347 exactly what 50 said, he didnt fit the g unit image
And g unit was trash that's why it didn't last very long at all, cool concept but 50 didn't have no business signing other artist while still trying to manage his own music career, now would of been a perfect time to have a g unit type group of artists
@@cole7313 Stay on topic, this is about G Unit, not Roc Nation
If 50 did signed J. Cole, I would love to see J. Cole and Lloyd Banks in a track.
The metaphors from those two would've been insane!
Lloyd Banks can't rap
@@stephenoroupade you must have not heard his 2 latest studio albums 🤔
@@Steveisthename I did bro, he's not so good bro. Least most talented in G Unit
@@stephenoroupade YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
@@stephenoroupade you have downs lol
Basically he’s saying that Cole wasn’t street enough for G-Unit.
Dipset passed up on signing him for the same reason.
that "street" mindset makes you see no further than your own shadow.
@@genocidejoe It's more to do with genre. Gangster rap still exists somewhat. No point signing an artist that doesn't fit in with that concept
@@GoGetYourShinebox facts. Cole would have not worked out @ all w them. He was always supposed to be a solo artist.
Cole has also signed much better talent than any of them g unit thugs 50 signed except Lloyd banks he was decent as a rapper & the best one out of g unit except w 50 being the boss lol. Although it is 2 very different styles of music and diff eras so kinda stupid to compare eras lol
@@genocidejoe 50 wasn’t or isn’t a conscious rapper like Cole and them. Gorilla Unit …not Kumbaya , my Lord
Basically he was only trying to sign stereotypical street dudes. And it sounds like Yayo should have his own label.
Exactly
And it wouldn't have worked anyway
Because 50 and Gunit wasn't on that type of music 🎵🎶
@@YearOfTheTitan93 facts besides cole would have never looked right joining a rap group like them.. he was always going to be a solo artist... imagine j cole on g unit wtf nah son that's some other universe type shit.
Facts and had the nerve to sing kidkid hella lame lol
@@triggathegod6162 Who is kid kid I never heard Anything from him
@@Blackwoman12345 exactly lmao
He was member of G-unit from 2014 to 2018. He was also a member of Sqad Up way back in the day with Cash Money/Young Money.
Thank God he didn't sign Cole. We would have never had him like we have him now. THANK GOD!
FACTS Cole woulda been doing club music lol all the time if he signed back then
Lol facts
50 > Jay Z
Big facts
@@tired783 cry
Fif called it right, @ a time in Hip Hop a lot of listeners were into street rap, hood rap, came along way from the conscious rap. J Cole was already on a different level of being great not just good. RESPECT
idk when I hear cole I don't think super conscious raps I think of regular hood nigga that work a 9 to 5 that got something to talk about he not a super gansta thug but he ain't no od complex rapper talking about the mother africas and shit lmao js he inbetween to me people stretch it same shit with kendrick lamar I don't get a mos def or tribe called quest when I hear them at all
but kanye, lupe were big, then drake came. 50 messed up that's it no excuses
@@meladgoat nah 50 was right, that era hadn’t start or was just barely getting started around that time
J Cole would not have fit in with G-Unit
It was all about being street
And tbh we shouldn’t be mad, Cole wouldn’t be who he is today if that had happened
💣💣💣
@@coldleo4950 any rapper who takes time to engage in introspection and talk about the hypocrisies of this fast life of riches and fame that we idolize is conscious. He is aware of the contradictions in rap music today and the lives of most underprivileged black people. He appreciates things in life that aren’t necessary materialistic, and he tries to inform other young rappers about the dangers of this business. He’s open about how people self medicate with drugs that hurt their bodies yet the very genre he is within glorifies shit that kills niggas. Being conscious and woke doesn’t translate to talking about Africa. He is open about exploring the issues that plague marginalized groups right here in the states. Transparency and vulnerability is consciousness.
To be fair. At that point and time. No one was really trying to hear that type of music. So he was correct in his decision. Just like diddy not signing chris brown early on. Sometimes its just not the right time for that talent to be heard or seen.
Update: I didn’t mean to start a debate 🤦🏽
i aint know that. 😮
This isn't true, you put good music out people will listen. This why the game so f..d up now.
Facts and them signing these artists could’ve also ruined their career.
Everything happens at tha right time and at tha right place. It would’ve never worked having j.Cole on tha unit at that time.
Real hip hop music wasn’t really putting up them numbers when that gangsta rap was running tha Industry.
Only a few and mainly tha Goats.
@@truthbringer-6748 good music has nuthin to do with it at all.
Tha wave at tha time was gangster rap, beef rap etc.
@@truthbringer-6748 Cap. Do I really need to drop a ton of good talent, underground artists that hardly no one listens to? I argued with people about this on another thread and shut them down quick
Talent doesn’t matter much these days. If that we’re true, a lot of the people I’ve listened to on the underground would have been big. It’s more about commercialized music that matters now and marketing
COLEWORLD That shit worked out how it was supposed to 💯
He made the right choice. 50 understands hip hop and is a marketing genius he knew the world at the time wasn't ready for conscious rappers to shine
I can't imagine J Cole going Ggggg unit
i can. 🥶
Early Cole for sure, current Cole nope.
@@cameronboakye8457 correctamundo. but u not saying much by bringing up the present. aint NOBODY dropping a G-UNIT intro call nowadays not even 50 himself. a Hungry, i mean starving artist Cole would have absolutely murdad a GggGggG- man c’mon.
I could hear it .. and him flipping it to J Unit
50 had an image to uphold . Simple as that
HUSSLEKING Life Exactly bro. 50 was only at that time was signing hip hop artists that had that hardcore street image. Jim Jones said that he & Cam'Ron pass up on signing J. Cole as well because he wasn't street. I personally think that had J. Cole sign to G-Unit or Diplomat it would have not done anything for his career.
50 really not a good business man
But you could say that about Jay Z too lol, they just missed out bro
@@onlypostthebest610450 is a great business man. What he isn’t is an great musician with a ear for talent
This made me rock with Tony Tayo even harder. Real recognize real and he understand you don’t gotta be close minded just because you street. Respect. 💯
💎✨🚀
50 cent knew it wasn't time, or the right fit for G Unit, Jay Cole might not have the success today that he has, if 50 did ...
Exactly. 50 never said he wasn't talented he just knew Cole wasn't the right type of artist to fit the G Unit image. Ultimately I think 50 not signing Cole was the best move for both their careers
Honestly, that would have been the move for G-Unjt at the time. They were sliding off as everyone was getting older and the newer crowd would have kept it going and then some
Cole really went through the mill...Jim Jones, 50 Cent passed on him even Jay Z passed on him the first time
Like he did with West
I remember Cole telling that story on his “Villuminati” track where Jay-Z passed on signing him the first time around.
NY-Times by Cole ft 50 and Bas was a smooth track. We need more 50 and Cole on a same track.
If that happened, Banks would've had motivation to drop waaaaay more music, cuz we all know Banks was better than everybody on the Unit
Not game
I always thought g unit was corny lol
@@chezuanvevo cap nigga banks is way better than game name one freestyle Lloyd Banks has repeated the same freestyle and shit just because an artist isn't consistent doesn't make him better
Yeah but he’s out of shape and fat which means he has a laziness about him that didn’t sit well with 50 same for yayo them niggas didn’t age well
Banks is a beast. They all got their own lanes but Lloyd is a lyrical genius str8 up! 💯
Nobody is ever ready (according to the machine) until it drops and it goes. They're really saying THEY didn't want to promote that at that time. People resonate to what resonates, when available.
As a rap fan and a country fan I feel for these humble goats who didn’t have social media and music sharing back then like there is now.
I think this proves Yayo has a talent that 50 may wanna explore more. Cole is a once in a lifetime talent and Fif passed on it and that’s cool. I think he’s better with Jay anyway but Yayo seen something in him and his excitement says a lot.
yayo sucks
Yea plus they had Dre and slim in they corner back then. Imagine how cole's production would've matured being around dre and collaborating with him early on.
He had Danny brown too.
Bruh j cole my favorite rapper but it so easy to look back and say what a person should have done
Jim Jones pretty much said the same thing about passing up J Cole.
@@thenotoriousroc3508 He's simply not a fit what is it with you j Cole fanboys?He's successful as hell and I'm sure he's forgotten about all of that.
@@thenotoriousroc3508 ... You obviously never seen Jim Jones group MOB, it was a bunch of street dudes he signed. Just look at what happened to all the members outside of Jim himself. Stack Bundles, murdered while going back to his project home. Max B, doing life for robbery & murder. Mel Murda, snitched on by Tekashi and went down with the other 9Trey members. Now Cam'ron was bringing out less hood talent between Juelz & Vado but Jim damn near was signing gang members.
Instead they got Kidd Kidd…
Man, that dude stole my name...sort of.
Kidd fit wit g unit though
@@lacedace5029 Fr though Cole wouldn’t though.
@Benjamin David Lurie kidd kidd
@@lacedace5029 trash
Tony Yayo was always the Quincy Jones of G-unit. He should’ve started his own label if 50 cent didn’t see any potential in J Cole
@No Jive 😂
Tony Yayo was the one that told 50 to keep “many men” on the album after 50 said the song was too slow tempo than the rest of the songs on the album
@@martinezandy15 that's a solid flex
You do know Quincy Jones produced Thriller right.... Micheal Jackson's Thriller just to make sure we talking about the same Quincy lol
Agreed
So many stories like this especially in hip hop
This feels like everything happens for a reason
Nah he just wanted a hard artist all the time.. it was impossible to think Cole couldn't succeed at that time when Kanye did...Cole was a branch off of Kanye and 50 didn't respect Kanye because he was considered soft
That's why when they was promoting their battle, 50 stayed throwing shots at Kanye's rapping by sayin he only likes his production..
Unfortunately, that's also why 50's career went down so quickly because he lost sight of what the culture considered hot and he was full of himself to even challenge Kanye when both of their 2nd albums were 1 mil and 900,000
That alone should've showed 50 that so called soft rap was being accepted.. this is why Jay signed Cole because he seen the masses accept Kanye during the gangsta era.. it was a shift happening that 50 refused to accept.. and that's the real reason for him not seeing Cole's potential and G-UNIT failing
@@tfromcali89 bruh did you even read it to comprehend?? I never said it wasn't conscious rap.... I just said that idk how 50 didn't know if it would be well received by the masses when Kanye was living proof of how well that style was received by the masses.. it all boils down to relateability and good music and he(50) didn't get that point
"So, truthfully, only calling me Kweli and Common proves that ignorance is bliss." - Kendrick Lamar
One of his best
BLACK THOUGHT
I remember Jim Jones saying the same thing about J.Cole on why he didn't sign him cause he wasn't representing where he came from.. I.e the Streets etc.
50 is being honest though. Back when Simba, Lost Ones & Lights Please were recorded in ‘07 & ‘08 what was smashing the airwaves in those days? 50’s candy shop, RichBoy’s Throw Some D’s, A Bay Bay!!!
He would of been to g unit. What Kanye was to the roc
Yep
I need more Cole and 50 tracks though… *New York Times* an underrated gem off Born Sinner…
& now we’re back at the same place in hiphop, where mostly street rappers are given a spotlight in the mainstream sense
Yes and no, but the sounds of rap are so diversified, it’s kind of hard to distinguish between a backpack/street rapper. Like what would Uzi, Carti and Travis Scott be considered? Lil Baby and Durk are definitely street rappers.
@@tiger_lord305 True, the genre has definitely expanded, & I think Travis and Uzi are in a different wheel house, they don’t have the substance of a Kendrick and Cole, but they’re also not really street artists, maybe the “turn up” rapper/singer should be what they’re considered
Hip-hop is from the streets.
@@triplebeans4159 Not true exactly. Hip hop started from giving young black & Latino men & woman opportunities that came from lower income background. The foundation of hip hop wasn’t prioritized for being street.
Hip hop became more street after NWA became popular
@@anthonycelestin3559 the streets was made up of many things and the gangster part was one part of it.
Wow it's crazy to hear some of the behind the scenes music industry stories that are just as entertaining as the art
Danny Brown said 50 had him wear big ass jeans with rhinestones on em. Fif don't fuck with skinny jeans ctfu
fif said: Common Sense...not Common...he.s legit with that time and era...
Imagine J Cole on the hook screaming G-Unit Soilders!!
Imagine Cole saying G-G-G- G Unit 😂 would be dope to experience in an alternate timeline
I can understand wat 50 was getting at that wasn’t his lane or his type
Fif is an honest human being fr.
Thank God. Cole good right where he's at
that would have been so interesting if 50 signed cole
50 never had the vision, he just had the hits.
he had both
same goes for the guy running the game rn
@@ducatarina Name an artist he actually signed with a cultural impact and continued success until now compared to the ones he did not sign...
@@bonginkosipeter8075 I disagree with that
Because to me
50 had the hits + vision
He said it before he even did it
That's with the music, movies and television ect
I mean he did sign Banks, Yayo, Buck and Game
They did very well with each solo project
That was put out
At that time
And yes 50 & The Unit made a huge impact on the culture
But i understand you though
And what you saying
@@bonginkosipeter8075 I can't name one
But i will say this
The unit definitely shook the culture up
When they came out
Had everybody wanting to be like them
Had everybody talking like them
Dressing like them
Wearing Gunit sneakers and clothes
Playing their video games
50 and the unit definitely impacted the culture like Tupac and left their mark
I'm from Cali
But when 50 and the unit came out
They had me wanting to be from New York
And this is coming from a dude who loves his State to death
Will go anywhere and represent California
But they definitely shook up the hip hop culture
Gotta say, there was "brains/smarts", behind 50 cents decision at least.✊✊, he should've passed J.coles, material onto another label to help him out.
Wasn’t meant to be that’s all …
Exactly
Cole would've been off brand. But the experience must've given him some validation.
Jay Z was the perfect person to sign J. Cole
Ultimate Respect coming from 50 voice
What ya don’t realize is we probably would’ve got a cole and Em collab
It would of been super fire and different, my brother canei finch was signed to sha money as a producer and song writer on a production deal and he was hanging with j cole and just blaze heavy before j cole blew up
Prodigy said on his DVD that he loved all the conscious rappers like Krs One, Mos Def, De la soul n Dem but in reality niggas in the neighborhood wasn't really into that & was into the grimy street music or gangsta rap & I felt where he was coming from. I mean me in my early 40s, I accept rappers like J.cole & Kendrick but when I was younger growing up in the 90s, I didn't care about no conscious rapper & I was only bumping Mc Eiht, Scarface, Mobb deep, DMX, Biggie, Raekwon & Ghostface n all dat, basically all the gangsta rap because I was young & still in the streets & that was all we all related to at that time & we wasn't on dat save the world shit but now as a grown man I wished I accepted the conscious rappers & they actually do have a positive message in their music their music but I love all regardless
to be honest though I think the term ''conscious'' is misused in hip hop because even with some of those street rappers you mentioned were very conscious dmx nas biggie 2pac all them were bringing some level of consciousness awareness and even intelligence to the audience that was not here before. Even 50 cent was somewhat conscious, so I think what people mean is positive rap because they get on their high horse to decide what is positive is and when its just playing respectability politics hip hop has always been about the reality of the streets since the beginning
Those days the street affairs and the correspondence had to be representative of the life ...j cole didn't fit in. Glad he finally carved his niche!
Thank you 50 for not signing cole it wouldn't be right plus cole better
G-unit forever. But no more violence we’ve killed each other enough in the name of misguided w/ ill mentored aggression. Cole World!
I wonder what J Cole would be like if fifty signed him
probably like Lloyd Banks, overlooked and underrated still...
@@hiphopdagame Banks overooked just in your world clown, J Cole can´t make a classic album, forever Top 60 greatest rappers, Banks still on Biggie, Rakim, G Rap, and Dmx´s level
@@ducatarina Forrest Hills is a classic.
@@ducatarina I don’t know about classic album, but he definitely has a classic mixtape. Friday Night Lights is Cole’s best project and the Warm Up is another one.
@@hiphopdagame you literally said it all
at that time 50 was at the top thats why he didn´t sign J cole, and because he signed Kidd Kidd
In 2011?? 😂
@@somaliguy worldwide based on tours yes in 2011
@@ducatarina he wasn't at the top though..
@@ducatarina What a ridiculous comment
@@schmoove_ yes, 2011 50 was the biggest rapper in the world
He said it was too much like right and people dont want that......that's deep
Glad it didn’t happen…As someone who has been following Cole since the mixtape era he wouldn’t have fit…He made his own lane and it fits for him..Let alone Dreamville…Best move 50 never did…
This is why I say kayne West was important in hip hop because before graduation came out. All the rappers before graduation relied on the same gangster formula that has been working for years up to that point. But when 2007 hit the rap game changed people like Soulja Boy was getting popular. The internet was more influential in how we listen to music. But when Kayne dropped Graduation that album literally killed gangster rap. The formula that dipset and 50 cent used wasn’t working anymore. So in 2005 and 06 a j Cole wouldn’t work but when kayne dropped his album in 2007. People like J Cole, Kendrick and Drake were able to slip in and reach unimaginable heights. This is relevant still to this day since we are literally a few weeks away from the 15 anniversary of graduation and Curtis being dropped. 50 Cent never fully recovered after Curtis.
Danny brown on G unit would’ve been wild
Love to see a project with g unit and cole.
It was a good pass up. Even now, I couldn't see Cole as a believable part of G. Unit. Cole is my all time favorite rapper, and the one flaw I find with his music is that he pretends like he's a shooter when he's clearly not a killer. The lines are dope, though. But, he doesn't fit with the image or vibe of G-Unit. I'd see him signing, not getting along stylistically, ending up beefing with 50, and his career being hindered because of it. It's for the best he passed.
Everything worked itself out they way it was supposed to
People passed on me too..... they'll learn 🗣💯
A dub got a voice from heaven
Thank god because I don’t think we would have gotten the same version of him
At least we have New York Times.
He fits with J-Zay. I do think he could have fit with G-Unit with Workout and some of his earlier stuff.
He got Kid Kid from Wayne’s clearance rack and thought that was a better choice.
If we're being honest, almost every gunit artist aside from the core including Game & Buck flopped heavy. Glad J.cole escaped that fate.
One thing that’s definite, is that he would have eventually ended up disrespecting J. Cole in public over something. Not sure for what reason but him going at J. Cole would have been inevitable.
Everything happens for a reason. God is good
Makes a lot of sense
wtf is that j cole pic in the thumbnail lmao
Lowkey this makes me want a g-unit documentary like they really buzzed with that cocaine and gun slinging talk
To keep it short, 50 didn’t like J Cole and he didn’t think he was good enough because he wasn’t a gangsta rapper 😂
It didn’t fit during that time 50 cent just hit the vitamin water deal he was set for life!!! He was dating Ciara and was suppose to Marry her so he was not focused on music!
@@AA-ji2my Kanye West didn’t fit during that time neither but he made that time fit, instead of worrying what the wave is at the time someone has to create the wave get what I’m saying?
@@LilGrimey5Star you're making your own things up There's no way JCole would've got in with G-unit it has nothing to do with talent just different styles.
@@triplebeans4159 different styles? Are you dumb? G Unit is a record label, it doesn’t have a style, Interscope is a record label, it doesn’t have a style, a record label signs different types of talent, singers, rappers, whatever 🤦🏽♂️
Not G Unit He Would’ve Well On The Dipset tho.
j Cole is way better than drake
The difference between a good business man and man with a higher Consciousness
Cole actually dodged a high bullet, maybe 9. 50 would have never let him shine.
That was not a genuine answer, he was being really careful with his words.
Same interview they asked him "did Game write What up Gangsta" He said "Game wasn't around back then". Yet J Cole was and NO one knew him. I'm saying is Game could had been around, but no one KNEW him.
Imagine Cole with G-Unit now that’s crazy
Cole would have never been a name if he signed with the unit. The pieces don’t fit
Cole tha G.O.A.T
Just like when Fat Joe didnt sign Eminem
I don’t think J Cole would of fit, I think 50 knew that at the time either way he picked the right route!
Its business matter and commercial perception of the group. It was a business move.Thats all
Let me say this, there is a good reason this didn’t happen. He would be the J Cole we all know. He wouldn’t have gotten the same beats or attention. Remember G Unit was big but people wasn’t messing with them like that.
I feel the same way no offense to j Cole & Kendrick but I was listening to mos def which did introduce j Cole which he did fit in the ecstatic album but I heard atcq, the roots, common, black sheep, da bush babeez, de la soul & their music is way more complex. But I like that they are successful & inspiring positivity but I haven't even reached their music yet.
The roots
Ok Cole and Black thought would be dope😌..
By 2010 skinny jean, blog era rappers where already getting popular, kid cudi, drake, wale , j.cole, wiz khalifa, big krit, currensy all were poppin. The writing was on the wall when kanye did 808s, point is passing on cole for that reason was dumb cuz those type of rappers were already proving to be the new trend, while gangster rappers at this time were tired and played out, and the new ones weren’t breaking out unless u was trap rapper from the south
Basically he's saying the money wernt there at that time (As in for 'woke' artists)...I respect it...
It’s humorous to hear 50 speak as if he can rap.
J.cole on G-unit would’ve been wild 😂
Thank God he didn’t sign him. His music would be his music today. He’d be too commercial and making radio-friendly records
Ngl it makes sense .
Thank god hov did
Danny Brown that dude!!!
He coulda signed him and let him do features until he thought it was his time. Let him get some money in his pocket and exposure... but everything worked out the way it should have. And he's showing no signs of fatigue. Just waiting for the Tobe Nwigwe feature...