I play a ton of xerath support and i often q + w the waves to hardshove and then often get flamed for it, always fun when your shit adc flames you for pushing while enemies are basing and you want to get a reset too :D
@@38svenson Sometimes you need to freeze the lane. If they have more minions than you, then dont want to shove because they will lose more minions by freezing the wave.
theguyshadows It really depends on the situation.When you want to reset it’s better to push the wave all the way in and when you don’t want to reset just freeze it if possible
It depends on the elo but I will just chat or ping my adc if we need a reset,freeze,slow or shove. You guys can try that too and explain little bit to them so that they'll know what to do next time.
Here in the Philippines server, you are almost always guaranteed to have an SKT jungler; SKT Dodong, SKT Hide on Bush, SKT Boss Uno, SKT Yasuo and so on.
@@Derethic Im a Janna one trick, I can say for certainty some adc hug the turret and when I'm lock screen under-tower on red side the turret blocks the champion. Theres a way to cast on champions only, but very few people key bind properly. I used to run into that issue all of the time. tell them in queue or when the game starts.
I love that you guys make the video assuming people in different elo will unlikely to take the same advantages and saying it's okay to just do so and so instead. Many guides often focus on high elo players making plays then give recommendations as if the viewers are high elo themselves. Of course when they load in a game and goes super-aggro only to die, do they realize the video they watched was heavily biased to high elo only. Guides like this really remind us that the best play doesn't = the perfect play. Thanks for making a support guide!
I main Support. I had a subscription and I canceled because you basically reflected what people think of supports. This video was not in par of the others, but was something. I can appreciate the difficulty in explaining the support role, but hey, this is your product. I suggest pairing with many of the challenger streamers that main support to create those videos. If the next videos will prove useful I will come back to subscribe.
IT'S HERE! Don't worry if you can't subscribe, liking and sharing this video is a good way to help out too! Here's the beta link! www.skill-capped.com/lol/beta/browse Most importantly, who's name are we putting up on the refrigerator? 😎
Support main here, played since season 3, been waiting for you to make SUPPORT content, when I saw this video I became a Infinity Plus Member! User name Zortex, I will remain a member as long as you keep supporting the support mains, I been doing a lot of side by side views of you guys and Pro guides, for last week, nearly bought a pro guides membership on the 19th, but pay check from work was delayed, thank goodness, because I saw you guys are supporting SUPPORTS, I signed up for your content. Keep the SUPPORT content going and I will remain a member! :)
Thanks, this video was really different. It actually addresses solo queue mentality and trends in a way that's focused more on how player ability and experience will affect how you should play, rather than giving broad strategies that apply to general audiences. I'll check out your website!
Finally! Thank you! A bunch of my friends are Support mains and whenever I show them Skill-Capped, they always think "yeah but I'm not a Jungler/ADC/Toplaner/Midlaner so whatevs, bro" -- now they have no excuse >:)
A big shoutout for 5:19 Thank you for pointing out that junglers need to learn it as well, the amount of times when jungers fuck up my minion wave is too damn high.
Waiting for a Skill Capped support guide is like waiting forever for your favorite anime to have a sequel. But unlike the anime studios, Skill Capped actually listens to what their viewers want and finally gave us this LEHENDARY support guide!
I remember the days of the lehends, to truly become a lehend you must adopt the life of a lehend. One must have lehendary focus and lehendary wit in order to truly live a lehendary support life.
If the next guide about supports you do is about roamming it would be appreciated. Even tho I succesfully manage to get my mid laner a kill or set up some good deep wards I always end 1 or 2 levels behind even tho I try to roam only after a shove or recall. Also I can't find a good time to roam top as a support, that ability would come on handy.
The part where you play more safe as support being the more vulnerable at the lv6 is where adc's typically flame and say useless support. Even though you are playing around their kill pressure.
Smurf Teemo support here! Just ignore this guide and carry mid to late game. As mentioned, your ADC is bad in this low elo. Still you gotta remember it's your elo(...)
BTW if u want to be more aggresive in lane by playing sustain supp, even if "Ashe has R, and mograna bind:" u can pick Guardian rune, and with it u can outrade them easily! Of course it all goes into team comp. but i would not take Soraka with comet instead of aery, cuz comet doesnt shields. Thus u loose good portion of utility. So even if u take sustain supp, and u want to win vs another sustain supp poke - just take Guardian instead of comet, and when u block some spells like Sona's R... oh boy, oh boy, do the enemy's bot lane screwd? After all, that way or another, there is no way any of sustain supp can do damage at all.
Can you make a guide for every champion? Like weaknesses, power spikes, abilities and range, runes, how to dodge and aim the champions skillshots. For every season. That would be useful.
Yeah and how to play those champions into different champions and all the matchups! And update them every season and if something gets changed! I mean, there are only +360k statistically viable potential matchups to cover in botlane!
Hey, don't think we are dumb just cause we don't CS, okay? :P Obviously there are exactly 3 possible reasons why Lehends could get level2 first. However, assuming you did not cut the gameplay in a way to prevent us from seing his team getting a kill on like a 5 man invade or so, and knowing he did not leash and "accidently" steal XP from his jungler, there is only the ward left as a reason, and not a new one to be fair. I remember a time when midlaners internationally would start red trinket on some Assassins to cheese level 2 xD
You talked about how Kai'Sa and Soraka had different ideas on how to push the wave. I like the explanation you gave for why you would want to hit casters first. What is the idea behind hitting melee minions first then? My best guess is that it allows your minions to get closer to the enemy tower. I don't see the point in that though, as you won't be able to crash them into it. Something else I often hear about, is not hitting any minions (except last hits) while the enemy leashes. That way, you stay in the middle of the lane while as many as possible of your minions die. The enemy might even start pushing, allowing for easier ganks. Am I correct in thinking that this strategy is just a worse version of the "hitting casters only but leaving them on low hp" one?
As a support, one thing I find myself doing to help push the lane in solo Q is by hitting the caster minions while the ADC focuses on NOT MISSING the CS on the melee's. Reason for this is because generally it is the melee minions that are taking the hits from your own minions and so naturally they will die first. Then your ADC has a small window and an easier time of clearing out the caster minions while not missing any CS. If you help with the melee minions instead of hitting the caster minions.. this often causes confusion to your solo Q ADC partner and can mess up their strategy/ability to CS each one consistently.
To answer your second question: Correct. You want your own minions to die, if possible, while only last hitting for CS when your opponent hasn't reached the lane yet. Each one of your own minions that dies means one minion worth of XP advantage you will have since they were not there to get it. Then boom.. you can abuse your lvl 2, 3, and 4 level advantages to their fullest by knowing how many minions worth of XP the missed.
Hi Skill Capped, I really WANT to sign your course, but I'm Brazilian and I can only understand your videos because of youtube subtitles. If you could put subtitles for English and Portuguese on your site I would be happy to sign and refer to 3 other friends of mine who are looking for a coach, thanks for your attention!
I personally think that all champions do way too much damadge right now like, squishy champs get deleted in less than 2s in 1v1 without any competed items and tanks are just here to endure like 5s but deal massive dmg wtf 😅
I got the ward was why they hit level 2 early. This is only ever something that will happen in extremely high elo. I'm talking high challanger even then something like this would be rare without a duo. Really good move though.
Joshua Attard not exactly. These scenarios can happen from time to time in solo queue, even in low elo, the issue is people don't pick up on small things like that.
@@Lamb666 that is excactely my point. Unless you are in extremely high elo or duo this will not happen. It doesn't matter if you get level 3 or level 2 off a minion less if both players don't know and are not ready to capitalize on it. Again the the level up happens everywhere and very often in all elos, but using it to your advantage does not happen.
7:50 i bet its that one ward kill at the start of the game, my friends and i almost always says "its worth, xp advantage" whenever we kill a ward in an invade xdd
Guess I gotta wait for trading patterns of melee and engage supps. Watching this one only really tells me decision making since I don't and won't use enchanters
It's so frustrating when your support auto's minions when you're playing senna or jhin or if you're low on attack speed and you can't claim every minion and they get confused when you ?? ping them. Or playing Aphelios where you sneeze and push the wave so you're 50 Janna auto is just going to create more opportunity for lost minions.
In gold we don't dodge morgana q, we catch it.
That's why I permaban morgana
Rip gold 2010-1018
Gold member here, can confirm!
@@headhunterz1000 my name better
It's easily dodgable lmao
If you auto the wave in any Elo under Plat as a support you usually get told to kill yourself then the ADC goes AFK. Fun times
I play a ton of xerath support and i often q + w the waves to hardshove and then often get flamed for it, always fun when your shit adc flames you for pushing while enemies are basing and you want to get a reset too :D
Not true.
@@38svenson Sometimes you need to freeze the lane. If they have more minions than you, then dont want to shove because they will lose more minions by freezing the wave.
theguyshadows It really depends on the situation.When you want to reset it’s better to push the wave all the way in and when you don’t want to reset just freeze it if possible
not in gold at all actually, ever.
0:36 I love every single one of your guides but there is no way the red part is 20% of the circle
i mean there's a hidden "200% memes" under "20%youtube" that makes up the total number to 300%
everything makes sense now
Ye the red part is 1/12 and not 1/5
What a scam xD
You are right. It is 10%. oops?
I don't know how up to the scale the graphic rly is. It s prob just some random representation and they didn't bother making it actually 20%
I am watching -> I am thinking
I am watching -> I am knowing
I am watching -> I am the best
I am playing -> I am dying..
9:10 getting ready for the world championship, SKT Haru and his Inting strategy to recall faster
LOL/ I didn't noticed the first time while watching the video.
What ?
@@SquaulDuNeant look at that moment and what the announcer said
@@hotlinekrapfen i dont understand im dumb :'(
@@SquaulDuNeant he died to jungle camps
"Just because you're a support, doesn't mean you can't auto waves."
Typical marksman PH: *triggered*
Me, a tank support: *spams relic shield item pings*
@Angel Felipe A legitimate concern, especially in the lower elo's.
Effin legit. Even in Diamond elo, they will ping you if you hardshove the wave to get a reset.
It depends on the elo but I will just chat or ping my adc if we need a reset,freeze,slow or shove. You guys can try that too and explain little bit to them so that they'll know what to do next time.
can hear the "?" ping just for read this
I know this is a support guide but... god DAMN that Kai'sa was good.
That's a Kai'sa one trick at about Challenger 1000LP. So yeah he's an okay player I guess. And btw the Morgana is RNG Ming.
It Cracks! 1000lp challenger > okay player i guess > lol ok
It Cracks! Ming!?!? Holy shit he got dismantled
@@studiouphori4208 Ruler is a "decent" (world champion) player
It Cracks! Could be better tbh. Didn't hit the 0/7 "supp is shit gg ff15 you suck" into dc powerspike
Skill Capped: "Because they have an SKT jungler..."
Me: Looks at 9:10
Nice catch :D
LMFAO
faster recall
omg xD
Faster recall if you don't have a buff... only kr stuff
"hes also playing against ruler a pretty alright adc"
Drake yeah I was thinking this too
AKA 2017 World Champion and Tournament MVP . . .i don't know if this guy is being sarcastic xD
@@mycrush23 and previously to that a worlds finalist as well
Here in the Philippines server, you are almost always guaranteed to have an SKT jungler; SKT Dodong, SKT Hide on Bush, SKT Boss Uno, SKT Yasuo and so on.
Thats pretty cool
Yes, SKT players are almost as common as different variations of ZÊD or YÂSÛÔ clan players!
These players are the worst of them all XD
@@mrwong4578 ikr
"[...] since there's no way he gets hit by a Morgana Binding at this distance"
You have no idea.... *starts crying* there is..
WE ARE THE SUPPORTS! Thx for a Supp guide =).
Support in my elo: afk under turret and shield himself
lmao
its better than steal your farm :D
Or shields your turret (Janna) instead of shielding you when the enemy pokes you under turret.
@@Derethic Im a Janna one trick, I can say for certainty some adc hug the turret and when I'm lock screen under-tower on red side the turret blocks the champion. Theres a way to cast on champions only, but very few people key bind properly. I used to run into that issue all of the time. tell them in queue or when the game starts.
@@cameronquinlan1712 I'll tell them to shield me from my champion icon :D
Thank you LORD for a support guide
@Sergey zkr - Learn english more better
0:26 i see, the high quality is apperent in the title as well. Absolutely lehendary wordplay!
@@lordlampard7510 read my comment again mate, a bit more carefully this time
imagine somebody commenting without really thinking about what they just read. Crazy right?
@@lirimiri7034
Haha sorry, i got you now.
I hope you have a great day mate.
I love that you guys make the video assuming people in different elo will unlikely to take the same advantages and saying it's okay to just do so and so instead. Many guides often focus on high elo players making plays then give recommendations as if the viewers are high elo themselves. Of course when they load in a game and goes super-aggro only to die, do they realize the video they watched was heavily biased to high elo only.
Guides like this really remind us that the best play doesn't = the perfect play. Thanks for making a support guide!
"Luckily he has an SKT jungler on his team" proof that this guide won't work in low elo XD
I main Support. I had a subscription and I canceled because you basically reflected what people think of supports. This video was not in par of the others, but was something. I can appreciate the difficulty in explaining the support role, but hey, this is your product. I suggest pairing with many of the challenger streamers that main support to create those videos.
If the next videos will prove useful I will come back to subscribe.
7:54 they killed ward with sweeping lens, it gave them portion of xp, please send pic of my name at the refrigerator ^^
Better KNOWING than GUESSING
Love this guide, i'm gonna apply it inmediatly so i don't forget
IT'S HERE! Don't worry if you can't subscribe, liking and sharing this video is a good way to help out too! Here's the beta link! www.skill-capped.com/lol/beta/browse
Most importantly, who's name are we putting up on the refrigerator? 😎
I actually love it next time make a tutorial in which you learn ppl who play mele supps against poke it whould be great
love you guys ❤
its the same concept as sololaners melee vs ranged.. dont take too much poke before getting ur all in combo
Support main here, played since season 3, been waiting for you to make SUPPORT content, when I saw this video I became a Infinity Plus Member! User name Zortex, I will remain a member as long as you keep supporting the support mains, I been doing a lot of side by side views of you guys and Pro guides, for last week, nearly bought a pro guides membership on the 19th, but pay check from work was delayed, thank goodness, because I saw you guys are supporting SUPPORTS, I signed up for your content. Keep the SUPPORT content going and I will remain a member! :)
Welcome friend! Thank you so much! =]
Awesome that new website. Super Happy about it. I'v been watching all your guides for 2 years. Grateful for your effot
9:11 when you die to gromp [*]
GregorMessi10 omg
SKT jg btw
2017 World Champion btw
Happens to everyone. Specially when u rly want that 60 missing gold to buy ur item but just came out of a gank with no smite, 8%hp and a dream.
Finally support Guides
Lol the holy support guide finally arrived :D looking forward to subscribing to skill capped
We already have way more created on our site friend, looking forward to seeing you there!
I absolutely love how it says "super high quality standard" as they show LS 'Low Standards' at the beginning haha
Thanks, this video was really different. It actually addresses solo queue mentality and trends in a way that's focused more on how player ability and experience will affect how you should play, rather than giving broad strategies that apply to general audiences. I'll check out your website!
Finally! Thank you! A bunch of my friends are Support mains and whenever I show them Skill-Capped, they always think "yeah but I'm not a Jungler/ADC/Toplaner/Midlaner so whatevs, bro" -- now they have no excuse >:)
"A minion has slain SKT T1 Haru"
0:26 the editor knows they need to put a high-standard image to match what the narrator says.
LS aka Low Standards
A big shoutout for 5:19 Thank you for pointing out that junglers need to learn it as well, the amount of times when jungers fuck up my minion wave is too damn high.
THE FIRST LEGITIMATE SUPP GUIDE!
THANK YOU!
did that Kai'sa seriously last hit Soraka's ward :O !? hope soraka reported him for that
I sincerely hope u are trolling
As a support, I leave wards to my adc. Supports don't need money.
Waiting for a Skill Capped support guide is like waiting forever for your favorite anime to have a sequel.
But unlike the anime studios, Skill Capped actually listens to what their viewers want and finally gave us this LEHENDARY support guide!
7:52 I expect to see my name on that fridge :)
I remember the days of the lehends, to truly become a lehend you must adopt the life of a lehend. One must have lehendary focus and lehendary wit in order to truly live a lehendary support life.
Much love for the another great guide and plus karma points because it's for support role 😘
YAY! we got a support guide! :DDD Thank you
The support guide actually came! After all this time!
Thanks a lot solid content as always. I will be utilizing this since I already have a 6 month sub as a support main
Awesome! Thanks for the support =]
Thank you for your "first" supp Guide. I hope, that way i get an autofill supp who at least knows the basics,...one day.
If the next guide about supports you do is about roamming it would be appreciated. Even tho I succesfully manage to get my mid laner a kill or set up some good deep wards I always end 1 or 2 levels behind even tho I try to roam only after a shove or recall.
Also I can't find a good time to roam top as a support, that ability would come on handy.
You also have to tax xp from the lane you ganked. But you probably will still endup missing xp, thats just the support lifestyle.
2:00 THAT THRESH PREDICTION HOOK
the most important thing in the video (;
Thank the gods we finnaly get to see a support guide. Keep it up!
The part where you play more safe as support being the more vulnerable at the lv6 is where adc's typically flame and say useless support. Even though you are playing around their kill pressure.
Smurf Teemo support here! Just ignore this guide and carry mid to late game. As mentioned, your ADC is bad in this low elo. Still you gotta remember it's your elo(...)
Thanks for showing us supports the love
YES ! Finally a support guide :) thank you, you rock !
Yayy i learned how to become a lehend
Wait what...
it's even in the video haha like:🤪🧐
Soo excited for the supp guides :D
thanks for the support demo review.
big suport i have been a fan from a year now
BTW if u want to be more aggresive in lane by playing sustain supp, even if "Ashe has R, and mograna bind:" u can pick Guardian rune, and with it u can outrade them easily!
Of course it all goes into team comp. but i would not take Soraka with comet instead of aery, cuz comet doesnt shields. Thus u loose good portion of utility. So even if u take sustain supp, and u want to win vs another sustain supp poke - just take Guardian instead of comet, and when u block some spells like Sona's R... oh boy, oh boy, do the enemy's bot lane screwd?
After all, that way or another, there is no way any of sustain supp can do damage at all.
Finally a support guide thank you
Maybe my game knowledge is finally starting to add up, it took me about 20 secs but I realized finally it was the ward that gave the exp
Thankkkk you so much. Your work is awesome
7:47 Lehends went in at that moment due to xp from killing a ward early :^)
Oh finally support guide ty
Can you make a guide for every champion? Like weaknesses, power spikes, abilities and range, runes, how to dodge and aim the champions skillshots. For every season. That would be useful.
Justuo only iron/bronze players would want this
Yeah and how to play those champions into different champions and all the matchups! And update them every season and if something gets changed! I mean, there are only +360k statistically viable potential matchups to cover in botlane!
Yeah!! More of this please!
Thank u skill capped for listening to our pleas
Hey, don't think we are dumb just cause we don't CS, okay? :P
Obviously there are exactly 3 possible reasons why Lehends could get level2 first. However, assuming you did not cut the gameplay in a way to prevent us from seing his team getting a kill on like a 5 man invade or so, and knowing he did not leash and "accidently" steal XP from his jungler, there is only the ward left as a reason, and not a new one to be fair. I remember a time when midlaners internationally would start red trinket on some Assassins to cheese level 2 xD
At 10:20 u can see kha is top by using the plant u guys have to mention that too
FINALLY. Now I have a reason to subscribe!
I love how for all other roles they grant a 5 division guarantee but for supports it's 3. Don't bother playing this role until high plat
You talked about how Kai'Sa and Soraka had different ideas on how to push the wave. I like the explanation you gave for why you would want to hit casters first. What is the idea behind hitting melee minions first then? My best guess is that it allows your minions to get closer to the enemy tower. I don't see the point in that though, as you won't be able to crash them into it.
Something else I often hear about, is not hitting any minions (except last hits) while the enemy leashes. That way, you stay in the middle of the lane while as many as possible of your minions die. The enemy might even start pushing, allowing for easier ganks. Am I correct in thinking that this strategy is just a worse version of the "hitting casters only but leaving them on low hp" one?
As a support, one thing I find myself doing to help push the lane in solo Q is by hitting the caster minions while the ADC focuses on NOT MISSING the CS on the melee's. Reason for this is because generally it is the melee minions that are taking the hits from your own minions and so naturally they will die first. Then your ADC has a small window and an easier time of clearing out the caster minions while not missing any CS. If you help with the melee minions instead of hitting the caster minions.. this often causes confusion to your solo Q ADC partner and can mess up their strategy/ability to CS each one consistently.
To answer your second question: Correct. You want your own minions to die, if possible, while only last hitting for CS when your opponent hasn't reached the lane yet. Each one of your own minions that dies means one minion worth of XP advantage you will have since they were not there to get it. Then boom.. you can abuse your lvl 2, 3, and 4 level advantages to their fullest by knowing how many minions worth of XP the missed.
@@charlescook3089 That was quite informative, thank you!
When you ask Support players to support site they be like: I was born for this.
Finally jesus christ now I'll actually watch videos on this channel
lehendary video
Finally a support guide!
Hi Skill Capped, I really WANT to sign your course, but I'm Brazilian and I can only understand your videos because of youtube subtitles. If you could put subtitles for English and Portuguese on your site I would be happy to sign and refer to 3 other friends of mine who are looking for a coach, thanks for your attention!
I got the exp question right - where's my fridge sticker?
Okay, I paused the video at the 7:52 mark. I know the answer.
It was because of the ward.
*claps and nods furiously*
Keep up the support content please!
more support guides plz , thnx 👏
Lehends is my fav pro suppprt
God bless a support guide
I personally think that all champions do way too much damadge right now like, squishy champs get deleted in less than 2s in 1v1 without any competed items and tanks are just here to endure like 5s but deal massive dmg wtf 😅
this was fantastic, thank you guys
I was worried I have to listen to *PÖÖÖSH* all game but fortunately the narrator is changed for the most part
Who can I reach out to at skill capped for business inquiries?
I got the ward was why they hit level 2 early. This is only ever something that will happen in extremely high elo. I'm talking high challanger even then something like this would be rare without a duo. Really good move though.
Joshua Attard not exactly. These scenarios can happen from time to time in solo queue, even in low elo, the issue is people don't pick up on small things like that.
@@Lamb666 that is excactely my point. Unless you are in extremely high elo or duo this will not happen. It doesn't matter if you get level 3 or level 2 off a minion less if both players don't know and are not ready to capitalize on it.
Again the the level up happens everywhere and very often in all elos, but using it to your advantage does not happen.
killing the ward at the beginning gave them more xp , hence why they got level 2 before the ennemy botlane
i knew the XP advantage on the ward kill :) supp main Janna one trick - Plat 2
K
7:50 i bet its that one ward kill at the start of the game, my friends and i almost always says "its worth, xp advantage" whenever we kill a ward in an invade xdd
Guess I gotta wait for trading patterns of melee and engage supps. Watching this one only really tells me decision making since I don't and won't use enchanters
or subscribe and see them now 👀 we'll probably release an engage one as the next free though!
@@skillcapped if you mean to the RUclips channel, I have been for a long time now (^:
@@skillcapped otherwise I have no money )^: to do so
Finallyyyy **
Anyways, I knew about the ward thing :D Where do I get the prize?
yay FINALLY a support guide :D
Also in plat when i accidentally hit one minion adc start flame and cry "dont tuch my farm" xD
They killed the ward with the sweeper in the beginning...
Now, give me the spot on the refrigerator !! :)
It's so frustrating when your support auto's minions when you're playing senna or jhin or if you're low on attack speed and you can't claim every minion and they get confused when you ?? ping them. Or playing Aphelios where you sneeze and push the wave so you're 50 Janna auto is just going to create more opportunity for lost minions.
Guys I love youuuu
This vid gave me new knowledge!
Every time enemy does not catch my Q I get angery. :9
Use heal to dodge morg q... what dimension are they in?
7:50 ... my answer was that she double checked her EXP bar and knew she was going to level up
I got the puzzle right, can I get my name on the fridge now?
Woah I can't believe rito added a whole new role in the new patch wack
Aha! Support videos... Time to be $18.99 less rich!
Ok now put my name on your fridge, good sir. I want a picture of it.