From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free | Explained
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- What does the slogan “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free” really mean? What are the historical and geographic roots of the phrase and the practical implications of its real-world implementation?
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00:00 Intro
00:43 Which river and which sea?
01:53 Two states or one state?
03:43 Why one state can't work
05:19 The original Arabic slogan
06:23 Arab rejection of the state of Israel
07:06 Jewish rejection of Palestinian statehood
07:51 The Oslo Accords
08:43 Failure of peace talks
10:40 October 7 and the resulting war
11:18 What does "Free Palestine" mean today?
12:19 Antisemitism on US college campuses
13:31 Neither Israelis nor Palestinians are leaving
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@@practice4523Facts over feelings.
@@practice4523 23, You may wish to first look-up the definition of the word apartheid and then, go sit with an Israeli Arab in Jerusalem's Arab quarter and ask him what he thinks of your version of apartheid.
@@practice4523at least your spelling is perfect.....
@@AccordionandViolinlife Thank you. If by now you don't know how the algorythm favors you and censors us, then you have no clue about the degree of powerful support you enjoy.
@@practice4523 you don’t know how to spell, you don’t have history correct and you don’t have your facts correct. Therefore, your opinions and conclusions are completely wrong!
You cannot chant something, you don’t understand. It’s your responsibility to get educated.
The unholy alliance between the terrorist Islamists and the left-leaning ignorant folks chanting things they don't understand and do not want to understand is really mind-boggling. I already see comments here saying that "stop arguing about semantics". It is too late for the brainwashed Islamism-sympathizing leftists.
I can and I will.
Palestine supporters and education in the same sentence is an oxymoron!
Freedom of speech?
@@oosmanbeekawoo so you dont understand and admit to being uneducated ?! what?
"History is very clear about what happens when you smash together a bunch of hostile populations into one country and tell them to play nice." I think most of us can agree that the British made a colossal mess of things. At any rate, both the Israelis and the Palestinians are here to stay. Somehow, a way to live in peace must be found.
For that racist settlers and the majority of "Palestineans" have to be pretty much "reeducated".
I don't mean that in the way of "reeducation" camps, I mean that by transforming the educational system. Right now Israel can't change the "Palestinean" system, but they can adjust their own.
With that I mean that there should be less of a split between Arab Israelis and everyone else, there should be mainly mixed schools. Maybe excluding the Druze.
Another point is that all the dirty parts of Israeli history should not be neglected. The ugly truths should always be taught. Of course I don't ask for an anti-Israel curriculum, but for example Jewish terrorism prior to the founding of Israel and in general the conflicts should be explored.
I can't say how they could fix the "Palestinean" system. Maybe funding and helping "Palestineans" who promote peace and dialogue could help.
The best way would be to integrate them into the Israeli education system though. But that would be _very_ hard to pull off, considering many "Palestineans" get taught to hate pretty much as soon as they can grasp this concept. And it would require international support instead of mindless promotion of Palestinean statehood.
A huge problem is also Islam. It either needs to be dropped (preferable, but next to impossible), or they need to be taught the "cafeteria" version, which ignores all the hatred and oppression of Jews mentioned in Islamic texts.
The divide is harder than ever, but there is a way towards peace. And while it is not a quick solution, taking steps now could both strengthen Israel, especially the connection between Arab Israelis and Jews, and be a step onto a path towards peace, not just survival.
Yes! I am pro-P4lestine, but Yes, only if everyone would play nice. No mass murders for one.
Chanting "From the river to the sea" is violent to you but "From the Euphrates to the Nile" is peaceful ?
@@ThePandafriend "racist settlers"
oh you mean the biggest slavers in history who castrated millions of "abeeds" for milleniums? you mean Muhhamed Rida who claimed that "selling land to jews is a sin" and thus starting the war?
you mean the arabs who attacked the semitic canaanites and stole their lands? the people who still trade the most amount of "bacha bazi"?
@@ThePandafriendReading your comment...you sound mental.
Before 1964 Arabs in the region did not call themselves Palestinians.
@@smithiscoming they even rejected the term "palestinian" as a zionist label. until the founding of the PLO the arabs in the region considerd themselves southern syrians
@@smithiscomingyes really. 1st time in history a nation of pstine was claimed in wb/aza was 1968. Year AFTER Yiz liberated them from jordan and egyot respectively.
@@the_general7393
That's so interesting.
@useyourdelusion6807
Well...
Most Arabs in the 1930s and 1940s were transient migrants who came for British jobs.
British landownership records show Arabs living in the area owned only 3.3% of the land allotted to Israel by the UN.
The grandparents of Palestinians squatted or rented.
Nonsense, this is not about Arabs, this is about Arabs and Africans who call themselves Palestinian who live in N.E. Africa. You are being disingenuous by including all Arabs. There are Arabs in Yemen, Iraq, Jordan etc, do you mean them too ? Golda Meir called herself a Palestinian, Ariel Sharon was born in 1928 with a Palestinian birth certificate. You people need to stop reading books form middle, and start from the beginning, intelligent people do that.
Chanting slogans like "From the River to the Sea" and "Globalize the Intifada" without knowing what it means and what it can imply to different people is just irresponsible. Educate yourselves, kids. Stop repeating slogans you really don't understand.
Most of them are paid y the very rich puppeteers, they don't have to understand or educate themselves.
Dude, Israelis and palestinian arabs are NOT intertwined, they do not have deep roots in our land, they were created in 1964 by yasser arafat, Imach shemo.
When we ask them which river and which sea, and they can’t answer those same people will try to deflect or get angry. We are showing them they know nothing and are just obsessed. I find those are so angry and hate-filled.
Chanting "From the river to the sea" is violent to you but "From the Euphrates to the Nile" peaceful ?
@@themuhammadalifan8693 : We know what it really means. Why are you bringing up nonsense no one knows about and is not part of this conflict?
What's on the Likud charter is peaceful?
@@ivanj.conway9919 You do all, Don't run away. You hate when Palestinians say from the river to the sea don't be hypocrites. Palestinians don't say Greater Israel nor do they wanna conquer the world as your Zionist ideology. You wanted to wipe out Palestinian Christians and Muslims so you came up with this Oct 7 thing like you've been doing since 1948.
Unfortunately, the option of a two state solution has now almost certainly passed into history. What comes next is completely unknown!
gazans must go to arab countries. They are arabs not palestinians.
Two state has been achieved.
West Bank and London
It was never an option Israel wanted. They prevented it decades ago. This comment shows your ignorance.
@@mattvball17 who rejected the Peel commission proposal in 1937? Hint it wasn’t the local Jewish community
@@mattvball17 who said no to United Nations resolution 181(ii) in 1947 that created a two state solution? Hint: It wasn’t Israel.
The big question is why don't the Arab countries help the Palastine people.
Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan do not help because they have wlways tried to overthrow there governments.
Why Europe don't make Israel in Europe or their stolen 3 continent (n-s America and Oceanian) ?
Because they do not want to deal with terrorists.
Well, if this happened before arab spring pretty sure everything would be different
From what I know, Lebanon was a Christian state and today it is controlled by Hezbollah
@@nurulhudavijapurwala4936 Because Isreal is the holy land of the Jewish faith?
Man in one of the Montreal protests the speaker was chanting “Palestine arabiye, Palestine will be there.” Blatantly misleading all the non Arab speakers into thinking he’s making a translation.
The bottom line is that palestine will be free and the europeans will go back to europe
@@practice4523 23, Please, educate yourself on the Misrahi.
@@davidshapiro5616 I am very much aware of the Mizrahi. That's why I said the Europeans will go back to Europe. The true Middle Easterners will remain behind. Remember that 500000 Israelis left after Octo 7, so it has already begun. Those who belong will stay, and those who don't will return to where they actually came from
@@practice4523 While there was a dip in migration from Israel with more leaving that coming the tide has now turned the other way. Unfortunately, many that arrive seem to be from the the US with extreme nationalist views following the religious ideology of Rabbi Meir Kahane. I probably don't need to tell you about Rabbi Kahane.
@@davidshapiro5616 I know all about Kahane. My point remains unchanged, the transformation of Israel into anti-democratic repressive state began long before Oct 7. It was cemented by the election of Ben Gvir and Smotrich. Those people are incompatible with the West yet fit perfectly well in the Middle East. Whether or not Hamas loses, the extremists have taken over and will drive out the sane Israelis. If Hamas doesn't destroy Israel, it will either implode or be pariah-ed into oblivion. Either ways Ashkenazim will not stay and find out
College students chanting something they didn't know it's meaning? how do they even achieve to go to a college?
Language enthusiast here.
I'm pretty sure that the river in question is the Jordan, and the sea is the Mediterranean. Stop me right now if I'm wrong, otherwise, please indulge me in a detour.
I like to see languages thrive, and I'm always enthusiastic to see moribund language groups pull themselves out of a hole -- one usually inflicted by hostile enemies in pursuit of territory. I root for Irish, Navajo, Cherokee, Nahuatl, Guarani, and the countless other languages that define ethnic groups even more than their creation myths and whatnot.
In my own country of America, there was a popular expression that said "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". At some time in history, the perpetrators of that idea began to notice that it wasn't very nice -- "unchristian", you could say. So they changed the phrase to "Save the boy, kill the Indian." Not much better, IMHO. Even though most of the original Americans are now Christian speakers of European languages, they still live at a clear social and economic disadvantage. Are we, as modern Americans, willing to say that we must be Euro-Christian "From sea to shining sea"? Is there NO room for ANYBODY ELSE, even if they were here a long time ago?
Now, right before I return to the topic at hand, let's put this in the back of our minds: Anglophones have always had an affinity for one another, more or less. However, people in The US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or other part-English speaking places like South Africa, India and Nigeria never call ourselves English, or "Englishmen". We acknowledge our kinship with Britain and its offspring, but we don't call ourselves a group -- except "Anglophones." Arabic speakers, on the other hand, DO indeed call themselves Arabs, regardless of their genetic makeup or what state issues their passport. I remember Nasser's call for pan-Arabism. It didn't come to pass, but the concept IS a thing, and there IS an affinity between, for example, Algerians and Iraqis -- of a different sort than exists between Americans and Scots -- neither of whom is "English". That special affinity comes up often. (There's even an extended affinity with non-Arab coreligionists, but we'll skip that for now.)
So, let's get back to "The river to the sea". Arabic culture already exists from the Atlantic ocean (Mauritania and Morocco) to the border of Iran. While there are normal linguistic differences over a three-thousand mile span, there's an "official" Arabic dialect (based on classical language) that is mutually intelligible over the whole swath of land.* It's pretty clear that the byword a long time ago was "The only good non-Muslim is a dead non-Muslim." Maybe the conquerors, a bit apprehensive about participating in genocide, chose to relax things and say "Well, if you recognize God as Abraham did, then you can still live here -- as long as you pay a special infidel tax." I suppose there was redlining too.
So everybody from the old school is gone. Nobody in Egypt speaks Coptic, except a few Christians in church -- and even they're on the way out just as surely as Jews were pushed out. ALAS, there's a fly in the ointment. Those pesky Hebrews on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean keep inviting their coreligionists in diaspora to come back! WHAT A HORROR. There's no place for THOSE PEOPLE -- ANYWHERE FROM MOROCCO TO PERSIA, or South Asia, or Xingang, or the 'stans. NO PLACE WHATSOEVER. REMOVE THEM!
This is a matter of religion, specifically supernatural religion, even more specifically among frightened people in parochial and provincial places who depend on the approval of neighbors as much as they depend on air and water. To say it's not a matter of religion is like saying the American Civil War wasn't about slavery.
So there you go. Depending on the scope you choose, you can make any group a majority or a minority. (After all, pale Caucasian people form a minority in the world, but in America we call them the majority.) You can call the Arabs of Palestine "an oppressed minority" if you have severe myopia, but the Jews of the area are the real minority. Unlike Kurds, Yazidis, Roma, and other stateless people, Jews DID have a state that got put out of business about 2000 years ago. They returned and rebuilt the language. The basic laws and customs had been kept largely intact, even in diaspora. They integrated skills they had learned elsewhere and put it all to good use. But those small-time, small-town gossips of Arab Palestine can't stand them. (Although Israeli Arabs might see things differently.) So, if you think about the phrase "river to sea", and expand your view a little, you get to see how stupid a sampling it is. If all you see of a hand is the fingernail, you won't get a very good picture of the whole thing.
Finally (at last), let me continue to wear out my welcome with this parting thought on language, this time regarding the word "genocide". There are 4 million native Hebrew speakers. There are 350 million native Arabic speakers. If you kill 4 million Hebrew speakers, that's a genocide. The language, thus its people, will be dead. If you kill 4 million native Arabic speakers, -- no let's make that 40 million, or 1/2 the population of Egypt -- you'll only have 300 million left. That would be a disaster and a crime, but not a genocide. So please, people, open your scope of view and use words that mean something.
End of rant.
*The history of how that happened is not known to me, but I find it difficult to believe that the indigenous people from Morocco to Egypt deliberately abandoned their languages, cultures and mythologies simply because they were impressed by the Arab businessmen who were expanding their trade routes to Spain. I suspect coercion and violence were involved -- just like in the Americas -- but it was a long time ago, so we can let is slide for now.
Only one "small" correction: the PLO decree is from 1964. Prior to the six day war.
Another brilliant video and educational briefing with a responsible and reconciling conclusion. Thank you.
Now show the video of the persecution of Jews and Christians in the 1000 years that Islam conquered the area.
Where did the large Jewish and Christian communities in the Arab countries go?
Yep, we have videos about a lot of that:
What Happened to Mizrachi Jews of Arab Countries? ruclips.net/video/Y4NjZBD9fW4/видео.html
What Happened to Iraq's Jews? ruclips.net/video/DnXSOQqzaKA/видео.html
The Rise and Fall of Jews in the Ottoman Empire: ruclips.net/video/UMFYBNMR3pg/видео.html
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Thank you for explaining this in a way that diverse people can understand. Thank you again for furthering my knowledge.
It’s going to need to be furthered more than this, personally, this does a horrible job of education anyone.
@@ABBCoffical what would you want people to know that was not mentioned m?
@@ABBCoffical😂 nice try but fail
It's really a very sympathetic video. That's what all videos on the conflict should be like
@@Butterfly-ADHD : Apparently, if it does not fit in with their M brainwashing agenda, it is not proper information and education.
As always I appreciate the fact that you present an honest and objective viewpoint.
What a joke😂
@@ABBCoffical wow. How insightful.
@@user-rv2zj8zu5b if you want an honest viewpoint might I suggest Al jazzeera for news and Norman finklestine for history
Honest. If this video is honest then I'm fucking Joe Biden.
I would recommend doing more research into this, this is really not totally honest and not objective Ilan Pappé would say on this
I would not consider an identity, that only originated in 1964, as deeply held. Sixty years ago, Palestinian meant the native people, the Jews, and the Arab occupiers were simply called Arabs. Anyway, the Arab invaders already have a country, that comprises 78% of the Jewish homeland, Jordan. That is more than enough for the invaders.
The Zionists are the invaders, and Jordan isn't another "land without a people for a people without a land."
The Arab Palestinians are the natives.
It is an identity made up of theft from others... The flag from Jordan, the anthem from Saudi and Egypt... Apartheid from South Africa.... Genocide from Rwanda....
keep fantasizing, Palestine is now a member of the UN and yours is a Pariah State
So? And hate to break it to you, but WE are not the ones fantasizing --we already have a country! We have won every other war they have started and we will win this one too!@@practice4523
population wise the ppl living in Israel today are not even the same people of the Judaic kingdom. Their own historians like Ben Gurion or whatever his name is after he changed his name from David Grön wrote that the Palestinian fellahin (peasant) were by-and-large descended from Judean Jew, until it wasn't convenient to mention this after the Palestinian revolt in 1929. The genetically distinct people that aren't from the region choosing the name of Israel (by forcing themselves in that region) is not an actual argument that can be connected to the 2000 - 3000 year old kingdom. For the less than 450 years. It wasn't the first nor the longest reign in the region.
Wait a second, Are we really surprised that the same Americans that flunk geography and get it wrong when asked where a country is in a map to know which river and which sea they are alluding to?
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Fair.A large percentage of Americans could not answer the question"what country is located between Canada and Mexico.
unfortunately you are tight@@milascave2
right
Not all. Unfortunately, culture got too touchy feely lately so no one seems to have much of common sense or survival instincts these days. You apparently even need safe rooms to hide in when talking about unpleasant topics nowadays at school, so forget about failing kids who didn't actually learn common knowledge or calling them out for it... For some people, even butchering a chicken to cook dinner is too graphic of a concept to talk about or watch... I sure wonder what these kinds of people will do if they are ever stranded out in the woods... I sure hope they know which berries to pick and which mushrooms to eat, and that that will somehow provide enough calories til they get back to civilization, because well... humanity became intelligent because of meat eating; berries and mushrooms didn't exactly provide enough calories for us to grow a brain that uses 20% of our total energy intake.
@@milascave2 You're not wrong. I once saw a stat more than a decade ago that 40% of Americans couldn't say which country borders Minnesota to the north.
They are Arabs not Palestinians who came from Egypt and Jordan
Correct ✅
@@richierich440007they are canaanites, speaking arabic
@@Bengalinationalistthe Canaanite people disappeared from the historical record approximately 2500 years ago. But hey, today’s self identified Palestinians - the majority of whom are descendants of 19th/20th century immigrants from surrounding countries - will claim any ancestry to try to solidify their ahistorical claims. Do, first they claim to be canaanites, then philistines. And did you know Jesus was a Palestinian? Repeat lies often enough and they are accepted as truth, as Goebbels taught.
@@Bengalinationalist how many tribes lived in Canaan when the Hebrews came?
@@Baruch2109lots - read the Bible
Good to know what INTIFADA really means
I always think of Taylor Swift when I think about what INTIFADA really means
We all know in means shaking off but it is the means by which you implement the shaking off. INTIFADA in implementation means killing Jews.
Intifada simply means uprising
@@hello6437 "uprising" like the communists against the starving farmers
"antifa" that uses quotes from Mein Kampf
"resistance" that enslaves their own people for pleasure, like "bacha bazi"
@@hello6437 , well... not any more.
Its too far gone to have a two state. They will never play nice.
I would recommend looking for what Israeli far right (ruling party now) say about two state solution, you will see that not only Palestinians are the obstacle here. Some Israelis are even calling for building settlements in Gaza
From the river to the sea means palestinians soon will be living in a sea.
Mossab Hassan Youssef said that Palestine only existed less than 30 years, in the Mandate period.
Fully agree with him and almost everything else he says!!
The Israeli spy? Yeah very trustworthy unbiased source
There's no name of a lybia in history yet it's exist right now.
We can't claim anything on the name of 4000 years of history. And if we then Europeans hasn't right to live on north American Oceanian and south american continent because it's not belongs to them according Bible and history
how long did the kingdom of Israel last for?
@@abbotsful kingdom of israel/Judea/Land of Canaan existed for a few centuries before the arabs and romans attacked. it then was occupied, taken back by the semitic canaanites and eventually lost to romans who renamed it to "syria philistina" by Hadrian
Mossab is crazy traitor hhhh read history babe u are ignorant
That’s true. The original 1964 PLO charter even renounced claim to Gaza which was ruled by Egypt, and the West Bank which was ruled by Jordan. The creation of a Palestinian Arab identity was to destroy Israel and then an attempt at pan-Arabism
There was no Israel before 1948, and the whole Jewish nation was created after a promise by UK, a colonial power that occupied the land. This was one colonizer handing the land to another colonizer, and even if no national identity as Palestinian existed for the local population, no body has the right to force them off their land where they have lived for centuries.
@@MbekAla The Jews were slaughtered by the Romans and exiled. They never forget their ancient homeland. Even in exile at Passover they say ‘ next year in Jerusalem’. King David made Jerusalem Israel’s capital 3000 years ago. There has never been a Palestine. It is a British colonial creation. Several hundred years ago, a Dutch explorer explored the Holy Land. The villages all had Hebrew, Greek, or Latin names - nine Arab in origin. Can you even name one Arab village there from 2000 years ago ? Archaeology is filled with evidence of Jewish existence there. And yes, Jesus has even used the word Israel
You should have tell the whole slogen :"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free -
of Jews"
There is no such legal statehood or country named Palestine. The Gaza Arabs are free and they have always been free to return to their countries of origins , away from the Jews, which is Jordan and Sylvia and Egypt. It's not Israel problem that these countries will not accept them back😅. I wonder why that is so😅.
So we are supposed to be offended by people chanting for a 'maybe genocide' rather than an actual ongoing one? Got it man...
I teach the History of the Middle East. This is a good video. I made a similar video, a bit shorter, a couples months ago on this as well. More recently I made a video debunking the lie that Israel is commiting "genocide"
I wish you could have taught my college class back in 2013, my professor was so incredibly biased and said it had nothing to do with religion. Terrible class.
@AmethystEyes thank you. Good news is today anyone can watch my lectures
Wish for you all the best ♥️
I'm sorry for your students...
@@madjames1134 I know it must drive you crazy that not all professors are antisemitic people like you.
Nice job once again Unpack'd!! Always reliable, quality content one can trust to have been well researched and factual! Thank you!!
57 Muslim countries, among them 22 gargantuan Arab countries chock-full of oil. 1 Jewish state. Seems fair.
Exactly what I said and the land was left as infertile and useless
We just don't want jewish state in our Muslim's land.
Middle East is for muslims right now. It's not belongs to Jews and Christian if both religion was originated there in history it does not matters and if you impose jewish state and Christianity on Muslim middle East then we know according history history Christianity doesn't belongs to Europe. We impose Islam on Europe. So decide your self you want to impose jewish state on Muslim's middle East or you want a Islamic Europe
So when land is unused by its original people, European settlers could come and take it ? I think that sounds a bit like what colonialism is O_O
Europeans did not believe Africans were using the continent properly, came might white man to properly use the resources and claim the land for their own.
@@garimakaya3403 for European settlers to use ?
@@MbekAla The Jews made the desert flourish. Look at the Saudis: still surrounded by sand, although they have more than enough money to green their whole country. But extravagant palaces, expensive private orgies, mega yachts, training of terrorists and building thousands of mosques and "cultural centers" worldwide are more important. The result of marrying their cousins for 1400 years...
Your analysis truly earned my subscription for your channel. Good job man
Nice effort juggling words not to say the blunt truth and being "cancelled" , the fact that no Arabic nations want to accept any refugees from Gaza already tells the story. Also, Israel has many Arab people living their lives in its territory, but how many Jews live in Gaza, Iran, Lebanon, etc... ?
That shows how compassionate those neighbour Arab countries are towards anyone that is not Arab ... or even towards their Arab Gaza neighbours...
Yup. There's a reason population of Jews in most Muslim countries dropped so hard that ethnic cleansing is a term that should be used to describe what happened.
right around 1903 jews started dissapearing. even more started dissapearing once the grand mufti visited germany in 1937, and met the painter in 1941 as the pictures show
wonder where they "dissapeared", with trucks heading to Auschwitz.. surely it was supply trucks right?
It means free of jews, from the Jordan river to the med sea, be honest. It's not confusing at all. They can't live as neighbors how you expect them to live together? Maybe don't attack Israel and nobody will die. Let's try that.
This brother cannot express what he really feels.
It means free of occupation. That the occupiers/settlers happen to be Jew is irrelevant. It is not about them being Jewish, but about an occupation that has killed and displaced people since more than 7 decades. Please read beyond Zionist propaganda.
thought it meant no jews between river volga & red sea lets try that
Unfortunately my comment was deleted. If they keep on deleting it then I hope you guys feel suspicious and curious about the narrative you are being told.
Here it goes again:
It means free of occupation. That the occupiers/settlers happen to be Jew is irrelevant. It is not about them being Jewish, but about an occupation that has killed and displaced people since more than 7 decades. Please read beyond Zionist propaganda.
Oh wouldn't that be nice?
good job explaining things
It's a very problematic slogan. What about the jews who bought the lands and the ones who farmed in it?
Hamas is the one stalling the peace, and who is supported by hamas? Iran, who's ironically also destablizing the whole region
You’re going to ignore the decades of oppression? Thought so.
@@ABBCofficalnope. Plo been oppressing its owm since 1964 when fake nation of pstine was invenred. Thats the only oppression by their own leaders
@@ABBCoffical
Palestinian oppression:
No elections
No free speech
No civil rights
No women's rights
No LGBTQ rights
State sponsored murder of hamass and fatah by their elected governments.
All of this daily oppression is ftom PA and hamass.
Bonus round: hamass has morality police to force women's to dress as hamass dictates.
Married women need a note to leave their homes.
There's your oppression.
@@ABBCofficaloppression brought on by themselves by being violent?
@@aaronlol6703 no? Unjustified, unprovoked, systematic oppression started by Britain. This started when they decided they wanted the land and they took it. But no, when they fight back it’s violence.
The Golan Heights are not and never have been part of Palestine. It is occupied Syrian Territory, which is recognized as such by the U.N. and the vast majority of the world. Please stop including it as part of Palestinian claims. And the Arab citizens still call themselves Palestinian.
They don't "Still" call themselves Palestinians. It's a new phenomenon of the past few decades.
@@asafschreiber7941 I never knew 1898 was a few decades ago. Here are a few facts 1898, Khalil Beidas (1874-1949) was the first person to use the term "Palestinians" to describe the Arabs of Palestine in the preface of a book he translated. The term became more common in newspapers from 1908 to 1914, and in June 1913, the concept of a Palestinian identity began to form in the media. For example, Ruhi al-Khalidi, an Ottoman parliamentarian and Muslim Jerusalemite, wrote an article titled, “The Palestinian Race” for the Palestinian newspaper Filastin in June 1913. I'm
I love how you say you dont wanna shame anyone... Relax they shame themselves very nicely
If the Arabs of Palestine were truly interested in peaceful coexistence they would have accepted one of the many offers for their own state next to Israel over the past 80 years.
The PLO and Hamas tend to act as talks get serious.
@@Butterfly-ADHDif by act u mean regusing peace, then sure
@@Butterfly-ADHD😂😂😂 by refusing peace yea
@@useyourdelusion6807 act as in violence
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PlO and hamass tend to act when Iran is doing something they want quiet. PLO and hamass are beards.
I had family that served in both world wars and I lived next to several veterans.
They had to sacrifice so much for peace their innocence there best years there conscience.
All they wanted for us in return was for us to think for ourselves to show kindness and live good and peaceful life.
It makes me sick seeing ignorant people advocate for violence and genocide.
Anti-semitism is disgusting.
My slogan is:
"Palestine free without Hamas!
Israel free without hate!"
In the one area where I do have some personal experience, the narrative does not seem to me to be correct. The story that the pro-Palestine camps on college campuses are anti-Semitic and or make Jews unsafe. I spent some time in one, and boy were there a lot of Ashkenazi Jewish faces. Although the Jews and the Arabs tended to hang out in operate small groups within the camp, they were clearly working together to maintain the camp, with takes effort, organization, and a fair bit of team work. It was actually pretty gratifying to see.
I"m not saying that I agree with everything I heard. I would have preferred that the messaging focus on a call for a cease fire, instead of all the other complex issues. Regardless, a young Jewish woman was probably safer walking though that camp alone at night than she would be on many city streets.
Sure they tolerate the ones who have pledged loyalty to them. But an unidentified Jewish person would be accosted walking through at any time of day. Just like in the Islamic Revolution they use those types (along with Feminists and LGBTQIA+) to gain numbers until they win and betray them
The thing is, all of those Jews were part of the protest. The question is, would they still be/feel safe if they weren't? There were some Jewish students who complained about being harassed by protesters simply for being Jewish. No one bothered to ask them their political opinions...
One of the best videos of your channel so far. Good job on this.
It means destroying the apartheid regime and integrating the minority and majority populations as in post-apartheid South Africa. Many Jewish leaders such as Miko Peled are leading campaigns to increase the proportion of both Israelis and Palestinians willing to consider such an essential evolution.
From the chip shop at the sea, fish and chips should be free😂
Awesome to my mind very unbiased and well explained content showing both sides. Thanks a lot. It is very much needed in these heated times
They don’t know the Jordanian River but claim enough knowledge to make a judgment..interesting
This stupidity is still going on all over the world 😢
Change from the river to the sea with slogan from the kill to the hell. What about your opinion ?
Sunak got it right. Good for the Prime Minister.
Sunak should have said that by looking into a mirror and he will surely see who that idiot is.
*Israel 🇮🇱 has been in existence before the birth of the Prophet of Islam and from River to Sea, Israel will live forever*
I don't think so. Your time will come. From a Christian that has had enough of Zionists.
You fast forwarded a whole 20 years of military occupation
Israel left Gaza in 2005. Judea and Samaria are disputed territory, previously occupied by Jordan and before that by the British.
If someone says from the River to the Sea Eretz Yisrael will be free, does that automatically call for the elimination of all Palestinians?
There is no such thing as Palestine since 1948. This was a name given by the colonialist British Empire. There are Israelis who are Jewish, Christian, and Moslim. There are Jordanians who lived in Samaria and Judea and there were Egyptians who lived in Gaza. The Arabs are all a mixture of different tribes.
It was not. Palestine has been a thing forever, it was not an empty land before the colonialist state of israel
The Romans named it as such.
@@savxired And who is Israel a colony of? And Why did Zuheir Mohsen assert that the Palestinian identity is just a political tool in its effort against Israel. Or why did Fathi Hamad proclaim that Paleatinians are either Egyptian or Saudi? Or why did the first Arab charter not lay claim to the territory of Gaza or the West Bank?
Lastly where is the line of Palestinian figureheads prior to the Hajj Amin al Husseini, that held a position created by the British?
@@savxired I meant the name. Herodotus described it as Palaistine, the Romans called it Syria Palaestina after a failed revolt led by Bar Kochba was suppressed. Way before the Greeks, it was called by many names: Peleset, Palashtu, Philistim. The Ayyubids called it Jund Filastin.
@@savxired this is nonsense. the romans called it Palestine. then the first few Muslim colonizers called it Palestine. but before the British it wasn't called that for about a thousand years
and Israel isn't a "colonialist state"... they decolonized the land. the colonizers are the arabs
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@@UNPACKED Why are you mentioning The Oslo Accords as "things got more hopeful"? Like, dude... the video almost ok, but man, do you really have to say that the Oslo Accords were a good thing?
Snap out of it already....
P.S.: it SURELY brought soooo much hope, when Yasser Arafat compared Oslo Accords to the the agreement that Mohammed signed with the elders of the Kureishite tribe (which Mohammed then treacherously violated)
@@googleuser2470 He said things were hopeful. There were alot of people all over the world that were hopeful. Many were doubtful. He never endorsed the Oslo nonsense. .
@@dbach1025 things (Oslo accords) were hopeful for the same kind of people who are happy and hopeful when the Biden & Co. are now saying that the "palestine state" should be created as a piece solution.
that's all there is to it, but guess what? for some people it can be a hard pill to swallow...
(imho, of course, but I am not the one who thinks this way)
@@googleuser2470 Really think we are nitpicking now.
How is it different from what's written on Likud charter?
11:45 Sounds like have you ever lived through the Soviet siege of Berlin to me
"many students walked back after realizing their mistake" is that a fact? i wish it was, but those students dont seem to be going away, even after learning taht they are standing in support of terrorism and genocide. if they had the mental capacity to actually learn and be inquisitive they would be on the side of israel..
Resistance is not terrorism and only the blind will not see that a genocide is going on. These students have the mental capacity to learn and be inquisitive and with the correct knowledge acquired they are not standing on the side of Israel.
The one state solution is quite possible. It already happened after 1948 nakba/war of independence. Although the arabs and the jews were at each other's throats (many died and many were expelled from their homes). The remaining arab population in Israel lives largely peacefully with the jews in Israel, even though they were subjected to military rule for the first 20 years of the establishment of Israel.
This is really what this slogan should mean.
The 2 state solution was possible in the 70s or 80s, now its dead. the only alternative is the one state.
Best video I’ve seen on the conflict! Thank you.
great info
Thanks for watching!
You unpack things brilliantly. Great video.
Keep on unpacking!
well explained 👍
Just to remind you- Israel is controlling the area for 80 years and nothing bad happened to Palestinian arabs - their population even tripled under Israel rule.
And what happened with Jews during 8 hours of "Hamas rule" we all seen
@unpacked Please don't continue using the fake, propaganda term "palestinian". There's never been a palestinian state or people. Palestina (or philistine in arabic) was a region, kinda like saying Middle East, or North America, or New England. I do feel compassion for the arab/jordanian people living in Israel. Their arab brothers have forsaken them and use them as fodder for their jihad and political aspirations.
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I thought this was a vey fair and objective explanation.
95% of Palestine fanboys don't know what river and sea they refer to.
Once again they never bring up 402 years of being colonized by the Ottomans. It is highly relevant
tell us more
@@carrier411 Ottoman Empire conquered the entire region for centuries, like Roman empire there was no single state there, most of the middle east if not all of it was part of the empire.
Even though the states did not exist, people lived there for centuries and they had right to that land as opposed to refugees coming from Europe and taking the land.
This means.....Asking them to build Tunnels 🕳from RIVER , which ends at SEA.....🤣
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Thx for the clarification and information 👍 many people in the world dont get it too !
Rishi Sunak is calling those who chant "From The River To The Sea" as idiots. If he says this while looking into a mirror, he will see who that idiot is for suggesting that chant as a notion to wipe out the Jewish state fro the map.
From the mountains lol
These from the river to the sea people can't name the river or the sea hell they can't even find Israel or Palestine on a map
What did it mean when Benjamin Netanyahu said from the river to the sea?
Good question that needs to be Unpacked
Scary that 30% does NOT say they will walk it back after learning what it means!
One day.... (as in "one day my prince will come....")
Because being wrong is hard. Mental gymnastics to defend your rightness is the instinct for the unprincipled.
1:53 UN had no business giving over half the land to a group that made up less than a third of its population
As far as I understand it, technically the UN didn't give anything to anyone. They had no ownership or jurisdiction over the land. The British Mandate was coming to a close and the Jews and the Arabs were still fighting over the land, so the UN *proposed* a partition plan that in their views would be the best way to resolve the conflict.
As for the "half the land to a third of the population", my understanding is that the borders were drawn based on where the majority of the Arab and Jewish populations were settled, which coincided with the idea that the Jews would get more of the less valuable land, such as deserts, swamps, and areas with outbreaks of diseases.
@@AndreyKrichevsky Alas, the info you have is incorrect - There would've been something like 400 thousand Arabs in what was deemed to become Israel as opposed to 500 settlers.
The other part was 99% Arab
@@ZS-rw4qq That doesn't really contradict what i said... There were about 1.2 million Arabs in Palestine at the time. So as you say, most of the Arabs, about 800,000 of them, lived in the parts the UN proposed for the Arabs, and practically no Jews lived there. Pretty much all the Jews lived in the part allocated for the Jews, and of course many Arabs lived there too, but 400,000 is about a third of 1.2 million, so it was a relative minority.
So a different partition would give Jews more land that they didn't even settle in, where Arabs lived, and would also put more Jews under Arab sovereignty, where they were viewed as foreign invaders and wouldn't be tolerated.
@@AndreyKrichevsky The line was intentionally drawn to make the settlers a majority, yes.
I mean it doesn't really matter because they expelled over 700 thousand of them in the Nakba
@@ZS-rw4qq Its very funny that Hamas supporters are trying to bring any topic to some pseudo-historical discussion of 1948 thing. It's like to describe all history of German 20-21 century as a "Nakba" of Germany in 1945-48 and count only how many Germans were expelled in that period from Czechia Poland and Russia. Out of any context.
I am also curious if germans will stab rape and burn people in Liberec and Wroclaw in 2024, woud you excuse them by Nakba they faced in 1947?
Obviously none of them are even born that time.
PM Sunak is right.
Very nice job👍🏼❤️
From all the rivers to the Persian sea Iranian people will be free!!!!
I am a zionist from Massachusetts who is 72 years old. In June we are going to Israel for a wedding and to Petra and Eilat.
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free…
From Hamas
hamass lies.
You gave one example.
Apartheid era South Africa tried to get black South Africans to accept a multi-state solution in which they would have autonomous tribal microstates with names like Transkei and Bophuthatswana. The ANC rejected this and insisted on majority rule in a united South Africa.🇿🇦 Ultimately the ANC got what it wanted and white South Africans had to accept it.
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I would emphasize that the people that call themselves "Palestinians" lived over a much wider area than what is now the State of Israel. The language they speak is Arabic, the ethnonym "Palestinian" refers to a regional people who live or originate in a geographic region designated during the Roman Empire as "Palestine", while it was mainly inhabited by Jews and Hebrew and Aramaic speaking people.
If there was displacement that needs to be talked about, needs to be somehow resolved - the solution should not be further "displacements".
Um 50% of their ancestors, pal muz specifically, only arrived in 19th and 20th century from places like egyot, bosnia, iraq, turki etc.. and if they cant live or refuse to live with the indifenous hevrews in peace they need to move on. Most of them have no long term or cultural connection to the land
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More than 50%.
Based on last name, the Palestinians came from Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, and Egypt and were transient migrants.
British landownership records show they didn't own land: this is reiterated by hamass leadership.
@@useyourdelusion6807 That is what is so "bizarre" about that region. Everyone came from "everywhere". There is not a "Jewish" hegemony of 2 million sq. km. around Israel, but there is a "Arab hegemony of 2 million sq. km. around Israel.
Clearly, people of Jewish origin were displaced into "Palestine". It was part of the 1948 UN solution to give a persecuted people a "homeland". The 1948 resolution stipulated a "Jewish portion" and an "Arab portion". There was no mention of Palestinians.
I think the people that today call themselves "Palestinians" should be supported by their "Arab brothers and sisters". The two state solution can be achieved - if the "Arab hegemony" stops using "religious ideology" to separate the "Palestinians" from their responsibilities.
Of course, the question that needs to be answered is: Why can an "Arab hegemony" of 2 million sq. km. not live peacefully with a "Jewish state" of 20 thousand sq. km. (One percent of the area). The only explanation can be religious intolerance and "racism".
What was liqud party thinking in the 70,s when they spreading the slogan from the river to the sea
You get it
Some precisions that need to be addressed: the "river" is actually a sea, the Dead Sea or the Salt Sea, which is also the lowest place in the world and is located in eastern Israel. Another fact that is important to mention, from 1949 to 1967, for almost 19 years, it was Jordan that controlled the west Bank and calls for a Palestinian state were never heard during this period.
Thanks for the truth 👍
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13.9 Million sq km vs. 22K sq km. You cannot even write the ratio.But they don't care, it's not about numbers, they want the jewish people erased. Long live Israel! Love from Romania!
Which is being built on the blood of the native children on the land.
Well said, brother.
The way that was recently put by some politicians it means that not only gaza but the west bank gets full sovereignty, stopping the settlers which the israely goverment has allow since 1967 and for what it has been hardly critized after the Oslo Accords. So from the jordan river where the west bank is, to the mediterranean sea where Gaza is. Not denying that some people want the end of Israel too, but usually is Gaza and The West Bank having Jerusalem in shared control is how politicians had view it historically and also what has been negociated historically with palestinian authorities.
6:50 I see no problem with this, the problem would be if they said that there would be no place for the Jewish people
IF????
Why does everyone love the expression "When someone tells (shows) you who they are, believe them the first time!" EXCEPT when it comes to H'mas??
Doesn't matter if they "updated their charter"--which is ALL available online for anyone to read! And they are VERY CLEAR! They want ALL the Jews in the world GONE! Starting with ISR! (And they even say who they are coming for next!)
They are taught to hate us from birth, as a toddler, when they go to school, when they go to summer camp.... and again, it is ALL online for everyone to watch! And it is truly frightening!
That's pretty much what is says though... Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to self determination in their ancestral homeland of Zion (which is an older name for Jerusalem). So to outlaw Zionism and ban it's operations would mean to outlaw and ban the idea and operations of Jews self determining in Palestine... So Jews would have no place in Palestine. Or at the very least, no right to determine their place in it.
As a non Jew in fact I am simply not religious. I am a man who believes extremism is rife globally and the Jewish fight centuries old deserves full support. Thanks for such an insightful summary. You have my thoughts Jewish community
Thank you !
Jews indeed have been facing lots of difficult times in Europe, but isn't it problematic that Europeans threw their failure of accepting the jews as their own citizens at Palestinians who have lost their land ?
Isn't a Jew born in Poland same as Christian born in Poland? if so, why would Europeans promise them a land to establish an ethnicity while they all come from various etnicities in Europe ; religion is not an ethnicity, you can find Arab Jews, Black African Jews, European jews ; they share the same religion but they do not share an ethnicity.
no one has a problem with Jewish people having peace, its a problem when they unlawfully colonize the land thats not theirs and deliberately cause instability in the region.
Jewish people were living peacefully before the creation of Israel.
@@MbekAla Sounds amazing the fact you just described the holocaust as "their failure of accepting the Jews"....There is no such thing as Arab Jews! With the British conquest, Jews who had been expelled by the Ottomans were able to return after 1917, making your whole paragraph incorrect. A homeland for the Jewish people is an idea rooted in Jewish history, religion, and culture. The Jewish aspiration to return to Zion. No matter where the Jewish community was from, we were wishing to get back to our land .Maybe you should check Ethnoreligious group online.
This was really good Unpacked major kudos to you guys for giving a very unbiased and factual based analysis of the horrific situation.
exactly!
"From the river the Sea, Palestine is Arab" is the original slogan 🙃🙃🙃
The original slogan came from the isrli in 1977 but nice try the likud charter 😂😂😂
yeah but it doesn't rhyme. I prefer "free"
@zhubinphua2824 yeah that's why they are mad I guess they made it sound better🤷♂️
It still doesn't make sense because there never was a country called Palestine, only an area that has not been consistently surveyed and was not incorporated.
Israel is already a country, not a concept in someone's mind. There has been a country there called Israel, Judea and Samaria, and then Israel again. This is all since about 1400 BCE. And no, just because there was an Arab state there a couple of times, that is not the original civilization on that land.
They have already tried this, but the Muslims want it all. They have 22 other Arab countries. The "two-state solution" was tried and the result is the "radicalized area called Gaza that is technically a theocracy (nothing holy there) because they are 80% or more terrorists' regime directly connected to "The Islamic Republic of Iran". The terror cell group is called HAMAS.
I wonder if the protesters actually know what it means? I think a lot of people only say it because it rhymes.
They don't. I've seen a video of an Israeli who was walking through a pro-Palestinian protest, and just to make a point he started to curse Palestine and Hamas in Hebrew, and the whole crowd started chanting the same curses. They just heard someone screaming in a middle eastern language and assumed those were pro-Palestinian slogans...
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Sure they know. Antisemitism never been about facts the name of the river or the sea are minor details. It means genocide and the destruction of Israel and it fits well their world view
Well said
But ultra Orthodox Jews also used the same phrase.
When? Where? If you're talking about Satmar, they're a crazy cult that believes Israel must not exist until their Messiah comes. It has nothing to do with Judaism.