West Side Logging Railroad
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- The most comprehensive video available on this subject. Bert Bergstrom began his West Side Engineman's career in 1916! His often humorous stories breathe life into this documentary based on material from Don Olsen's archives, which as been masterfully crafted by film-maker Warren Haack. www.catenaryvid...
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Hey, Warren. Holed up 6,000' up on the south side of a high desert mountain in northern Nevada. How'ya doin', bud? Still with us? Thanks for the DVD.
The guy that carried a Hawken and rode the strawberry roan in Muerto en la Sierra.
The Shay had lowest gearing, and the three-cylinder ones had very smooth torque delivery, so minimum slippage; great on steep and shoddy track. The Heisler was higher geared, so less tractive effort, but faster; these seemed to be mostly used around the mill, possibly because lots of short trains and wanting to get things spotted quickly. The rod locomotives were used for deliveries outbound from the mills, as they could run at main line speeds.
❤❤❤ logging railroads
I have ridden behind Shays number 9 and 10 in their tourist careers. Nothing beats a Shay for raw power
I rode about 7 miles out from the yard one summer when it operated as Westside and Cherry Valley before Glen Bell's attempt to make a park out of the property. Two friends and I built a 15" gauge Shay after that. The shop had all the patterns for every casting on those Shays. They could have run indefinitely.
Yes I recall that operation, went out to River Bridge. Before the mill burnt we could just walk in and see everything, no one chased you out. Those were different times for sure. I wish the MeWuks would revive the Railroad. They certainly make enough money from their Casino!
This was a "behind the scenes" look at Petticoat Junction filming and then over to Tweetsie Railroad and later the train wound up at Disney World.
wow this is great...i love the tight curve at the beginning :)
3ft Gauge. The most Common Narrow Gauge in the USA.
I have an insane Idea that would most likely Never happen. Imagine if all 3ft Gauge Railroads United together to become a mega Railroad Company (And yes, include The White Pass & Yukon rout).
0:28 it’s Number 2 from Roaring Camp!
Top notch conductor.
This looks like the mc cloud railroad tracks loops and route! In California near Shasta mountains!
I love Shay and Heisler locomotives I have one on my layout that I run with a 2-6-0. Love running them at my train club, unfortunately, the Shay is too slow to run on the club's mainline.
priceless video!
There is still a train hidden up there somewhere in the Stanislaus National Forest. I used to camp in the back country of long barn area and hike and ride ATVs when I was a kid in that area. There is a trail with old railroad trestles and such. Somewhere there is an old train still there. Used to hike to it. Used to hike there in the early 90s. Miss gong up there. If anyone knows about that train or how to find it again, let me know. Really want to learn about that train i visited as a kid.
We would all like to hear about it.
There were lots of railroad cars at Camp 8, Deadwood, Camp 21, perhaps Camp 24, Buffalo Landing and perhaps Flemming. You might be able to find the remains of them at Camp 21 down the hill and to the left at Deadwood.
If you want to find an old train go to the Ghost Train at Scotia, CA on the Northwestern Pacific and some other places in the Redwoods. There are lots of railroad cars in Southern California.
I'm buyin' it!
My grandpa’s brother lost his hand to link and pin couplers.
Very nice video.
I want to tell Angel Camp that we have the same legend here in and around Lassen National Forest. They say the Red River Lumber Co. in Westwood left an engine out in the woods, etc. etc. But I have marked and cruised all over out there. I am disappointed that as we followed the old rail beds, nothing came of it. Been looking since I came here in '74. Nice try though. I'd rather it were true, for your woods and for mine.
So tell me Angel, exactly how you got to that. There were only two trestles left on the Westside in the 90's: Bourland (now gone) and Reynolds (still there). Did you go out 3N01 to get to it? Give me some info and let's try to suss out where it might be. This is the first I've heard of that, and I honestly can't imagine why Westside would have left anything other than maybe some derilect cars out in the woods.
There were 4 or 5 wooden trestles on the narrow gauge logging railroad. River Bridge crossed the North Fork of the Tuolumne River out of Tuolumne city. It is near the city of Tuolumne. You can reach where it was through a campground. Nothing but the track is there.
Clavey bridge is below Camp Clavey off 3N01. Foundations and some debris is left. It is near Buffalo Landing.
You can drive right up to the remains of Bourland Bridge. Go soon. There is less each year.
Little Reynolds Creek Bridge takes a walk to get to . I don't know how much is left after the Rim Fire. It is off 3N01.
Niagara is near Camp Niagara. You can drive near it. I'm told some of it survived the Rim Fire.
Reynolds had an earthen fill and not a bridge.
Excellent Registry, Thank (Temuco, Chile 2020).
I don't see America having the balls these men had to doing anything like this today what it took 150 years to build Environmentalist has stopped in just 30 years never to be seen again. Now they just let the forest BURN in wild fires.
this is aswome
I've got this video.
Warren, I saw in the comments down below talk about an engine left behind in the mountains. I was wondering if you had ever found any information about it or if it just a myth?
I can't see as how they would have left a locomotive in the woods. Maybe some derelict cars. But to my knowledge all the locomotives on the roster are accounted for. If anyone has any other information I certainly would like to hear about it!
@@warrenhaack I wonder if angel was referencing the oil care abandoned at camp 24. Also I was looking at the the engine roster and the stuff that I found online seems pretty conflicting. If there is something out there it would be in an area inaccessible to OHVs as info would be out there on it then. I have some old books/maps at my parents house that would better detail this.
@@warrenhaack I've returned to this video 3 years and a lot more research later. I actually was able to travel back to Soap Creek camp and found out that Pickering had left 2 shays up in the mountains for several years and then removed them via truck. Most likely what the commenter was talking about.
I remember there was either a mine with the train partially hidden in, or a bunch of boulders and rocks blocking the path of the train. It was quite a hike to the train. I would really be interested in learning about it. Been researching and can't find anything. Next spring I want to go up there and see if I could find it. Wondering what its fate is after the rim fire or if the rim fire missed the train.
do you recall any of the roads near that location?
There was one or two small steam locomotives left at Relief Reservoir as well as some frames of railroad cars dumped into the water. A locomotive on the north side had been cut for scrap. I saw it about 1969 or 1970.
where can I get this version of life's like a mountain railway???
yay number 9 shay
did any of those cabooses survive?
There's a few. One is at OERM, there's another in the Nevada County Railroad Museum, and maybe a few more. Fun fact, those cabooses were built by Westside on retired logging disconnects so they didn't ride well at all. They decided to take out one spring per truck side so they'd bounce a little more which gave the cabooses a better ride.
Can you tell me what type of tank car that is @1:32 in on this video. ?
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myself and my cousins would sneak down to the engines and clime all over those Shays , climaxes and other cabooses . then grab a gandy hand car and ( for the lack of a better word ) drive it on the open areas of track and when we were done or an engineer or fireman and yes even the sheriff would catch us we'd put all the switches back to where they were and all ways before. we where home our granddad would be waiting for us .
on one occasion the engineer and his fireman gave us a lesson on how to get it warmed up and to run the Shay .
Oh , and my granddad was at the time Union rep.
George Burner . and I know about his reputation , most of which is prefab by the families of personal he Fired for safety violations ie ... Drinking on the job , coming to work drunk , smoking in restricted areas and worse .
so don't tell me about it . I know from first hand experience . but the most important thing is that I still Love that area and those trains .
can i get this to?
Interesting subject, but appalling quality. I've seen 8 mm film converted with better resolution and colour.
This film was made in 1992, long before digital enhancements were available. You have no idea until you try to do this yourself how much trouble it is first of all to locate the archival footage, and then beg the owners to loan it to you for your project. At that time some of the footage was only available on 3/4" video tape. So please bear that in mind when considering the work involved in making a historical program. I was luck that Bert Bergstrom was alive. He was born in 1900, and was 92 when I interviewed him. When you have finished a similar program I would be interested in seeing what you have come up with.
Damn some people just can't enjoy this for what it is. They just need to complain about something but I don't see him posting any damn videos. So until you do shut the hell up and be happy it's even here for us to enjoy it.
@SierraRailway
email me at: haack @sfsu.edu
we can figure out something.
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To me cutting down mature hardwood tree is like murder one day our great grand children if the earth survives will curse us
Pretty sure our great grand children would like to have a house to live in.
lol
That and those were not hardwoods