Great workflow breakdown! Thank you! I think I’d make a small grasshopper script that references the center of the section lines and the make 2d lines and then get the difference between points to get a movement vector to automate the alignment process. (more for a big project with lots of sections).
@@ashuri8184 Sure, essentially you are dealing with two planes. 1 plane is your original section cut, the 2nd plane is the plane that the resulting Make2d lines end up on (typically world XY), if you evaluate/get both of these planes, you can use Orient component in Grasshopper to transform from the world XY planes of the Make2d line output and move those to the Section Cut planes at each location. The Section Cut plane doesn't have to be the destination though. You could move them to be oriented on a layout sheet, positioned "flat" around the overall building like a box with its flaps down, etc. Once you have the planes you can orient however you want... Hope that helps!
I usually make use of the rhino clipping plane tool and link them to my viewports in my layout tabs. It automatically updates, no need for any manual work, no heavy duty make2D commands It does the hatching (one solid color) It shows what's visible with the options shaded/arctic/rendered/technical etc. Even annotations update automagically when I make changes to the annotated objects. Easy export to pdf/dwg/image whatever. This combined with the coming Rhino8 Clipping plane functionalities will take care of all my 2D Sectioning needs. The only thing that I miss in this method is adjusting the hatch style per object and actual clipping plane geometry but that will soon be solved for good ;)
@@zoilinar Q1: How does one link clipping plane to viewports. - make sure u have a layout tab with a "detail view" on it. - make sure u have a clipping plane - select the clipping plane and go to the properties tab on the right menu. - where it says "views clipped" there's a drop down menu which by default is on "model views" - Select "layout views" in the drop down menu and check mark the detail views you want to link to the clipping plane Q2: how to export Clipping plane View without make2d - Select the right view in which the clipping plane will be oriented "top/bottom/left/right/perspective/back" (You can create a new viewport tab which is clipped keeping your original viewports unaffected Like "RightSect" Or "Planview") (Drawing the clipping plane in this tab will make it automatically active otherwise you need to select the viewport, go to properties tab and check the right view under the model views tab) - Draw the clipping plane and move it in a different unaffected viewport to where you want the section to be - Do the "print" command - Select "Rhino PDF" as destination - Set size to "custom" - Make the dimensions large enough to contain the section/object/drawing etc. (30000X30000 Cm would do the trick for the building I suppose) - Under "Output type" select "Vector Output" - Under "view and output scale" Set scale 1:1 - Make sure all geometry is contained in the print preview if not under "view and output scale" you can set a window for the area you want to print. (say no to changing the scale) - Press Print Vector PDF files can be imported as Curves and hatches in Rhino with objects retaining layer information. Whilst printing in vector pdf there is not much fine tuning in which curves get exported. This method exports all of the visible geometry in front of the clipping plane in wireframe mode. If you want to go for aesthetically pleasing annotated layouts for documentation or presentation select "raster" pdf. With this function you can export your detail views in all of Rhino's viewport styles (wireframe,shaded,rendered, arctic, etc) These pdfs cannot be imported as DWG files though but are excellent for presentation purposes or to create printable drawings for the builders, council, client, etc. They usually don't need dwg. Just a pdf or piece of paper with some annotations on it are usually plenty to get the information across. These PDFs look vectorized so that they behave like vector drawings when zooming in and such in your pdf viewer of choice but are in fact "rasterized" they import as pictures in rhino. If you need an aesthetically pleasing DWG file of your clipping plane for post processing in illustrator, autocad, lasercutting or something then the workflow in the video is probably the best way to go. But I suspect most will need a quick and easy way to create multiple (clipped) views of a design for annotated drawings and export to PDF.
I think you should deal with this feature again. New section tools for Rhino 8 has been shipped now. Background (projection behind the sections) is now automatically created and updated.
Once there is an update, I'll definitely take a second look at it. As it is right now - it's just a few "teaser" posts from the dev, so it's hard to construct a video around them.
Yup! Also if you're a Revit user - check out the two newest vids on the channel - I cover the Rhino.Inside.Revit bridge there. Also a pretty damn good workflow for drawing creation.
Nice tool but not yet completed. 2D projection should be one of the parameters of the dynamic section. However your explaining work was great, thank you!
I think that you know that, but I have seen that you have change your viewport clucking in the left top button and select perspective 5:15 If you press shift+cntrl and drag with right click you can change all your viewport futhermore you have the top, left, right... view as snaps.
Umm yea, making those sections in Rhino is quite manual as you frankenstein together multiple make2d's. Section Tools or VisualArq might help with this, but the solution will never be as streamlined as that of Archicad or Revit. That's the price you pay for the flexibility of Rhino
It feels like it should be possible to use this to make a dynamic plan since a plan is just a section at a different angle but I'm finding it hard to make that happen, am I missing something?
I mostly use details in layouts looking into model space. Front, top, right, perspective, the usual kind of 4 view layout. I dimension in each detail to the objects (LxWxH) of a cube for example. When using SECTION TOOLS is there anyway NOT to create a bunch of 2d objects and still show a slice through objects like a normal clipping plane. You can set a standard clipping plane to clip layout views (horizontal section through a cube) without creating more 2d objects and without modifying the cube. Can SECTION TOOLS do that? Can a SECTION TOOLS section be used to clip a layout view without creating 2d objects that I have to have a separate layout for?
Hi, I just joined your Patreon and hoped to download this architecture model. The google doc spreadsheet gives no references to let us know what video the links reference, or date they were posted, so how do we find specific models such as this one? Thanks!
Seems like the file for this video has been left out. Now it's fixed. You should be able to search (Ctrl+F) for the files by typing in the names of the videos
If I recall correctly - you simply draw the section in any elevation view (front, left, right or back) and it will create a horizontal section (which is what a plan is)
i tried the tutorial but for me the dynamic section doesnt work i change the volumes and the section stays the same does anyone know what im doing wrong
Amazing videos thank you so much. Do you think there is a more dynamic workflow for this using grasshopper somehow? a combination of geometry referencing using 'dynamic geometry pipeline' from Human? and intersecting planes with referenced geometry etc? I was trying something like that but the data trees got too complicated for my abilities 😅 - any thoughts?
Of course! BUT (and it's a big BUT) - automating something that is inherently pretty subjective/custom via Grasshopper usually becomes very nasty with really bad user experience in using the script/tool. So there is a bit of a tradeoff that I personally wouldn't want to take.
@@DesignGoBrr I see! Good to know that it can work :D will keep going then! Thanks for your reply! Looking at all your unreal engine series now ! very exciting!
thanks for sharing 3rd video i wanna ask something please reply.lagging problem during work in rhino . I have PC i9 9900k RAM 16 rtx 3070ti .what should I do .do I upgrade the Ram ? during work system showing me 85 99% usage of the Ram. need advice
The fact that theres no cranked section is just plain stupid, I need a clipping plane that only cuts a certain part of the building, not the whole the whole thing
@@DesignGoBrr I tried, and I found the only way to do it is to make a standard dynamic section but in the FRONT viewport, or any elevation viewport, a bit wonky but it does the trick.
@@rdn1929 Ah yea - I forgot to mention that you specify a plan cut in any elevation view and an elevation cut in the top/perspective view. It's all about the Cplane orientation.
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Please dont stop making these videos. You taught me everything i know about rhino
Ah, happy to read this! Rhino tutorials will continue comming in (once there's new material that should be covered with Rhino 8)
omg this is saves so much time!
Almost 10 year rhino user, first time I am hearing about this! Was I under a rock?
Thank you!
Happy to help out! Enjoy the SPEEED
Can you please make part number 2 for the more advanced steps!! Thank you so so so helpful!! Literally saving my career
Unfortunately more advanced steps are sitting down and cleaning up the generated drawings.
Great workflow breakdown! Thank you! I think I’d make a small grasshopper script that references the center of the section lines and the make 2d lines and then get the difference between points to get a movement vector to automate the alignment process. (more for a big project with lots of sections).
Could you explain what you mmean an by this a bit?
@@ashuri8184 Sure, essentially you are dealing with two planes. 1 plane is your original section cut, the 2nd plane is the plane that the resulting Make2d lines end up on (typically world XY), if you evaluate/get both of these planes, you can use Orient component in Grasshopper to transform from the world XY planes of the Make2d line output and move those to the Section Cut planes at each location. The Section Cut plane doesn't have to be the destination though. You could move them to be oriented on a layout sheet, positioned "flat" around the overall building like a box with its flaps down, etc. Once you have the planes you can orient however you want...
Hope that helps!
I usually make use of the rhino clipping plane tool and link them to my viewports in my layout tabs.
It automatically updates, no need for any manual work, no heavy duty make2D commands It does the hatching (one solid color)
It shows what's visible with the options shaded/arctic/rendered/technical etc.
Even annotations update automagically when I make changes to the annotated objects.
Easy export to pdf/dwg/image whatever.
This combined with the coming Rhino8 Clipping plane functionalities will take care of all my 2D Sectioning needs.
The only thing that I miss in this method is adjusting the hatch style per object and actual clipping plane geometry but that will soon be solved for good ;)
Yup - this is correct.
how do you link the clipping plane to the viewports? and how to you export it to dwg without make2d ?
@@zoilinar
Q1: How does one link clipping plane to viewports.
- make sure u have a layout tab with a "detail view" on it.
- make sure u have a clipping plane
- select the clipping plane and go to the properties tab on the right menu.
- where it says "views clipped" there's a drop down menu which by default is on "model views"
- Select "layout views" in the drop down menu and check mark the detail views you want to link to the clipping plane
Q2: how to export Clipping plane View without make2d
- Select the right view in which the clipping plane will be oriented "top/bottom/left/right/perspective/back"
(You can create a new viewport tab which is clipped keeping your original viewports unaffected Like "RightSect" Or "Planview") (Drawing the clipping plane in this tab will make it automatically active otherwise you need to select the viewport, go to properties tab and check the right view under the model views tab)
- Draw the clipping plane and move it in a different unaffected viewport to where you want the section to be
- Do the "print" command
- Select "Rhino PDF" as destination
- Set size to "custom"
- Make the dimensions large enough to contain the section/object/drawing etc. (30000X30000 Cm would do the trick for the building I suppose)
- Under "Output type" select "Vector Output"
- Under "view and output scale" Set scale 1:1
- Make sure all geometry is contained in the print preview if not under "view and output scale" you can set a window for the area you want to print. (say no to changing the scale)
- Press Print
Vector PDF files can be imported as Curves and hatches in Rhino with objects retaining layer information.
Whilst printing in vector pdf there is not much fine tuning in which curves get exported. This method exports all of the visible geometry in front of the clipping plane in wireframe mode.
If you want to go for aesthetically pleasing annotated layouts for documentation or presentation select "raster" pdf.
With this function you can export your detail views in all of Rhino's viewport styles (wireframe,shaded,rendered, arctic, etc)
These pdfs cannot be imported as DWG files though but are excellent for presentation purposes or to create printable drawings for the builders, council, client, etc. They usually don't need dwg. Just a pdf or piece of paper with some annotations on it are usually plenty to get the information across.
These PDFs look vectorized so that they behave like vector drawings when zooming in and such in your pdf viewer of choice but are in fact "rasterized" they import as pictures in rhino.
If you need an aesthetically pleasing DWG file of your clipping plane for post processing in illustrator, autocad, lasercutting or something then the workflow in the video is probably the best way to go. But I suspect most will need a quick and easy way to create multiple (clipped) views of a design for annotated drawings and export to PDF.
Thank you for the reply, I tried it , but can't make it work that well, I guess I have to look more into it
how do you make a clipping plane with hatch?
Don't give up mate, that was my first day to use soft soft and i will work on it for a long ti!
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Glad you like them!
LOL THE MERCH IMAGE IS FIRE
Thank you Gediminas, really useful for me that new to rhino. Appreciate your work, man!
I think you should deal with this feature again. New section tools for Rhino 8 has been shipped now.
Background (projection behind the sections) is now automatically created and updated.
Once there is an update, I'll definitely take a second look at it. As it is right now - it's just a few "teaser" posts from the dev, so it's hard to construct a video around them.
Awsome tutorial as always! Will be implementing this im my future workflow for sure, can see it being very useful for generating plans aswell
Yup! Also if you're a Revit user - check out the two newest vids on the channel - I cover the Rhino.Inside.Revit bridge there. Also a pretty damn good workflow for drawing creation.
Nice tool but not yet completed. 2D projection should be one of the parameters of the dynamic section. However your explaining work was great, thank you!
Yes, you are right - hopefully the functionality will increase with the new version of Rhino
Is it possible to create different plans to define different types of line to give it deepness? thank you so much for your videos!!
I think that you know that, but I have seen that you have change your viewport clucking in the left top button and select perspective 5:15
If you press shift+cntrl and drag with right click you can change all your viewport futhermore you have the top, left, right... view as snaps.
Muscle memory too strong, tried using Ctrl+Shift+RightClickDrag , but after a week or so defaulted back to clicking the damn top left corner again.
Wow this will save so much time, good lord!
Yup, should increase productivity quite a bit!
Been long Gediminas! Great video as always.
Yo! Welcome back!
Thank you for making these videos
My pleasure!
Yay ...shoowww...c planesss!
Much appreciated. Thanks. C-Planes!
This is amazing! Thank you!
In Archicad I can make a section that idk how to call it goes like......__________>
Umm yea, making those sections in Rhino is quite manual as you frankenstein together multiple make2d's. Section Tools or VisualArq might help with this, but the solution will never be as streamlined as that of Archicad or Revit. That's the price you pay for the flexibility of Rhino
Hi. Thank you for the video. Have you tried the sections tools of VisualArq for Rhino?
Nope - their pricing is too steep for me.
@@DesignGoBrr I thought the same, but I purchased this and Lands Design and never looked back. One of the best purchases I’ve made.
Thank you for sharing!!
cplanes yeeeeeeeeeah
all I can say is hell yeah
Hell yea indeed
thank you!
Welcome!
How you open "section tools" toolbar on the top?
It feels like it should be possible to use this to make a dynamic plan since a plan is just a section at a different angle but I'm finding it hard to make that happen, am I missing something?
thank you sir
Most welcome!
I mostly use details in layouts looking into model space. Front, top, right, perspective, the usual kind of 4 view layout. I dimension in each detail to the objects (LxWxH) of a cube for example.
When using SECTION TOOLS is there anyway NOT to create a bunch of 2d objects and still show a slice through objects like a normal clipping plane. You can set a standard clipping plane to clip layout views (horizontal section through a cube) without creating more 2d objects and without modifying the cube. Can SECTION TOOLS do that? Can a SECTION TOOLS section be used to clip a layout view without creating 2d objects that I have to have a separate layout for?
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show it. wooohoooo, YEAH C PLANES
Hi, I just joined your Patreon and hoped to download this architecture model. The google doc spreadsheet gives no references to let us know what video the links reference, or date they were posted, so how do we find specific models such as this one? Thanks!
Seems like the file for this video has been left out. Now it's fixed. You should be able to search (Ctrl+F) for the files by typing in the names of the videos
Can we use this for floor plan? And how to do that
If I recall correctly - you simply draw the section in any elevation view (front, left, right or back) and it will create a horizontal section (which is what a plan is)
Is this feature exclusive to Rhino 7?
Should work in Rhino 5 and Rhino 6 as well. Search for SectionTools in Food4Rhino.com
i tried the tutorial but for me the dynamic section doesnt work i change the volumes and the section stays the same does anyone know what im doing wrong
Amazing videos thank you so much. Do you think there is a more dynamic workflow for this using grasshopper somehow? a combination of geometry referencing using 'dynamic geometry pipeline' from Human? and intersecting planes with referenced geometry etc? I was trying something like that but the data trees got too complicated for my abilities 😅 - any thoughts?
Of course! BUT (and it's a big BUT) - automating something that is inherently pretty subjective/custom via Grasshopper usually becomes very nasty with really bad user experience in using the script/tool. So there is a bit of a tradeoff that I personally wouldn't want to take.
@@DesignGoBrr I see! Good to know that it can work :D will keep going then! Thanks for your reply! Looking at all your unreal engine series now ! very exciting!
can you please make tutorial of the model
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/CR462DBnSV4/видео.html - 11 hours of fun-time modeling experience with Gediminas
Can you explain Twinmotion?pls
Sure - I'll add it to the to-do list!
thanks for sharing 3rd video
i wanna ask something please reply.lagging problem during work in rhino . I have PC i9 9900k RAM 16 rtx 3070ti .what should I do .do I upgrade the Ram ? during work system showing me 85 99% usage of the Ram. need advice
Well it's pretty clear that RAM is the issue - upgrade it to 32GB and it should be fine.
@@DesignGoBrr OK thanks you so much
c planes! 😁
Doooooooooo it!!!!!!
Anyone failed to install this from package manager in Rhino 7? I installed it and it just pop up a failed to load windows after I restart rhino
The fact that theres no cranked section is just plain stupid, I need a clipping plane that only cuts a certain part of the building, not the whole the whole thing
Rhino 8 will have clipping plane exceptions as a function. So that's something to look forward to..
What about dynamic plan drawings? Should be easy to make this plugin work for plans, have you tried?
Yeeah! show Cplanes
A plan is just a horizontal section isn't it
@@DesignGoBrr I tried, and I found the only way to do it is to make a standard dynamic section but in the FRONT viewport, or any elevation viewport, a bit wonky but it does the trick.
@@rdn1929 Ah yea - I forgot to mention that you specify a plan cut in any elevation view and an elevation cut in the top/perspective view. It's all about the Cplane orientation.
Can I get the code for your plant in Petreon?
for my what now?
@@DesignGoBrr usb 🪴
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If only make 2d with clipping plane would draw solid parts like solid...
I think it will in Rhino 8 - they are improving many things about it.