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The show definitely interprets Tanya far more psychopathically than the light novels, ironically enough though she hasn't committed a single warcrime.
Even torching Arene was withing the standards of international warfare laws thanks to the rebels executing unarmed Imperial soldiers and claiming that there wasn't a single civilian in Arene. It's important to note that even today insurgents and revolutionaries aren't accorded the same protections that a uniformed soldier is.
Tanya is very much lawful neutral and a legal savant when it comes to exploiting those laws. Arene was a major logistical hub behind the Empire's line and it was imperative to take it quickly. It was full of armed dissidents that claimed there were no civilians in town and executed pows in front of the soldiers.
To show a real world example the US firebombed Tokyo destroying over 15 square miles of the city, killing an estimated 100,000 and leaving over a million homeless just to break moral and try to force a surrender, followed by the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. None of those towns were major logistical hubs behind US lines critical to maintaining the front, it was quite simply a terror campaign to win the war.
As a human being it's morally repugnant, as a soldier, and leader it's a tragic necessity to save lives of your own men.
Tanya isn't evil. She's lawful neutral and her actions highlight the flaws in international and national laws regarding war at the time. Remember it wasn't until after the Nuremberg trials where the international community decided following orders wasn't a legal reason to commit atrocities.
All Tanya wants is a job in central command running orders or making strategies, she just keeps failing her way upwards because she's the most competent mage commander the Empire has. It's also a lot more interesting than making a political/legal thriller where she's making different interpretations of the law and would bore everyone to tears.
"Technically" she hasn't committed any war crimes. She knows all the rules of engagements, & she knows how to bend & stretch them to their limits.
@@TheNightOwl11683 If I remember correctly, Colonel Sioux actually committed a legit war crime in his last fight with Tanya by using a type of shotgun that was banned from warfare.
@@overlordsalem2706 Yeah, shotguns/trench guns were highly frowned upon in combat (especially by the Germans) at the time due to the spread & damage they could do in close quarters, but I don't know if they were actually banned.
This, Tanya as an orphan with magical talent (not exceptional, but enough to merit training as a mage), had two choices: Volunteer for the service, getting her on the officer track Or she will be drafted, willing or not, later on and be shoved into the grunt soldier track. So she volunteers and resolves to be a good soldier so she can get a relatively safe and comfortable role/position to serve out the war in the back lines... Of course that doesnt happen, instead she becomes a combat mage ace and put on the front lines, with Being X poking her or throwing her a curve ball anytime she gets anywhere close to sorting her life out a bit towards getting off of the bloody good times she's seemingly destinied for.
Honestly the vid above really missrepresents her at every step, is getting on her bad side a bad idea? Yes, absolutely... But she's perfectly willing to take prisoners if her orders and circumstances allow for it, obeys the international conventions and regulations to a T and is very much conserned for the wellfare of her subordinates (even if motivated in part due to wanting to be Seen as a competent officer who does right by those in her command rather than being some kind of altruist).
The two officers she stuck in the bunker? Her first choice was to send those dumbasses back to headquarters for additional training so they'd learn to follow orders or get drummed out of the officertrack... Because having officers that defy orders? That's how battles and lives are lost. They refuse and insist they be allowed to remain... so she sticks them in a bunker that... yeah, is an obvious and natural target for enemy artillery units... But like, if it wasnt those two in there? it'd be two other soldiers and they already burned their chances to be under Her direct command or get sent home, so death it is cause that's what happens in war.
Edit: Oh, and that scene in russia? The reason Tanya and crew are able to just fly around doing whatever they want in the enemy capital is cause the russians KILLED all of their mages... just went genocidal on anyone on their own side, civilian or military, that had magical talents... hence they had Zero combat mages of their own meaning Tanya and co had uncontested air superiority. That kind of bullshit is why Tanya was "blow them the eff up" cause what else do they deserve after murdering their own people for daring to have magic? Mary Sue joins that scene cause she and some other allied combat mages where nearby for a training camp but neither she nor anyone in that camp is a russian... cause all the russian mages are dead... cause the russians killed them... in wartime.
@@overlordsalem2706 Never banned. Not a warcrime. Though it was formally opposed by the Germans in WW1. If I recall correctly, they threatened to execute anyone using one. Their argument was that it was banned by the wording
"it is especially forbidden to employ arms, projections, or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering"
The American government responded by saying that if the Germans did that, they would execute anyone with a flamethrower or saw bladed bayonet. Neither side did anything because it was all blustering and few guns were used anyway in comparison to far worse weapons.
Interesting to note, a lot if early Isekai had female protagonists. Two that come to mind immediately are Inuyasha, and Twelve Kingdoms/Juuni Kokuki.
Her Majesty Swarm is an amazing one too if you want a cold blooded female protag
And the whole isekai sub-genre of reincarnating into a villainess in a novel/game and so on is mostly female protagonist as well, though cases like Tanya's exist
Inuyasha
So a tiny bit of backstory because I fucking love this show.
Tanya was given her powers by God like the literal God (She refuses to call him god and calls him Being X) and she curses him because she hates that he sent her there in the first place and removed her from her job and everything she had before in the real world. Through out the show God sends attack after attack at her to keep her on her toes and she keeps winning so God literally over powers Mary Sue in order to give her a rival and attempt to put her in her place because he was getting bored of her winning every fight.
And we all see how that worked out
That and she still almost killed her.
This isn't really accurate, Tanya wasn't really given any special powers. Sure, she was born a mage, but as mages go she has average power. Her second "magic orb" is a Relic though, literally blessed by an angel, and it allows her to store mana externally so she can build up huge amounts of it over time. The only downside is that the Relic might be a _little bit mind controlly_ so she tries not to use it.
@@vladerag to witch the scientist was given inspiration by god himself and then god cursed the orb in order for her to make it work and for her to use overpowered firepower she needed to pray to him to witch she hates completely considering she hates god but she also wants to live throughout the book series the orb is slowly getting control of her mind with each prayer
Talk about God being petty on someone who is just doesn't want to acknowledged God as God, but I get his point though.
The guy summarizing took some minor liberties, but yeah, this is largely how it went. I highly recommend the show.
In short, you have a psychopathic businessman i.e. short on empathy, heavy on logic. He really likes following rules and wants to climb the corporate ladder to retire in a comfortable life. He fires someone who he already gave a second chance. The guy pleads he has a family, he doesn’t care, the guy should have improved then.
The guy murders him by pushing him in front of a train. But before his death, a higher being stops time to have a philosophical conversation why so many people don’t have faith in a higher being. The businessman runs rings around him largely saying it’s because people are comfortable and not in peril, he’s a bad at management, plus he refuses to call him God because he thinks he’s incompetent and calls him Being X instead.
Being X says so if I put you in peril, you will have faith?, says he’s reincarnating him once and only once, and the businessman reincarnates as Tanya with memories intact in another world similar to ours just before World War I, in what would be our Germany, but where a very small percentage of people have magic and countries use it for military purposes.
Tanya tests high for magic at a young age, decides to volunteer before being conscripted to try to climb the military ladder to retire comfortably. But every now and again, because Tanya is not developing faith, Being X nudges things to put her in peril. And she of makes it her side mission to piss off Being X.
Very good show in my opinion, alternate WW1 with magic, staring a psycho who cares about following rules and protecting herself, with a low tolerance for stupid people (and stupid higher beings).
Saga of Tanya the Evil is one of my favorite anime of all time.
CJ kept some important details out but I'm sure it was needed to keep things short and sweet.
Other comments have already answered your questions so I'll just sign off saying I enjoyed your reaction. Cheers!
You NEED to see that scene with Tanya cursing god. That fcking epic and cool.
You can find it with "Youjo Senki Tanya Degurechaff s Speech about God" search, 3:09 long, original sound and eng sub - dont you dare to go for eng dub, only sub.
Thats the best way to take this on.
You won't forget it ever.
Yeah, I don't know why of all people they gave Monica Rial the English VA role for Tanya
If I were to describe Tanya, I would say that she's fighting her own war and she has no rules, no boundaries. She doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. She's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals. She trades blood for money.
(Reference to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, if you didn't get it)
No rules would actually be wrong. That is the thing about her. She follows orders and rule to the letter, but is smart enough to use and interpred them to her own benefit. For example that part in exhibit B were she bombs the town, she came up with the loophole which allowed that. Because before that they issued an order for all civilians to flee the city and for the prisinors to be freed. After a time she argued that since all civilians must have left, afterall why would a innocent civilian stay in a warzone, so all that could be left would be resistance fighters and enemy soldiers and after filming that one soldier bing killed she now could do as she pleased, since she could proof that she was just protecting her own allies.
That's very wrong though. Tanya is without a doubt lawful neutral. Everything she does is within the international standards of the law of land warfare and the empire's uniform code of military justice.
@@bohicagaming4462 i would argue lawfull evil, since she is always using the law/rules for her own gains. Lawfull neutral would be more if she did it for the fatherland and not her own benefit. Also she is clearly taking some joy in the stuff she does. At least in the anime, in the LN I would agree with the lawfull neutral statement.
this show has the best plot armor because its actually IS plot armor because God is fucking with Tanya old testament style.
most classic isekai's were actually female protagonists and aimed largely at young girls until around 1998 or so, where it started to really take off for the male demographic.
sekai means world and isekai just means another/different/other world. The story can be anything with any gender of protagonist as long as the main character is transported to another world. IIRC one of the oldest isekai stories I've watched is a shoujo (for girls) anime called fushigi yuugi in 1995. There are more earlier examples but just giving my own experience.
old isekai's I can think of are El Hazard, Rayearth, Zero no Tsukaima, Digimon, Now and then, here and there, Inuyasha (technically not since it's still the same world just a different time).
Inuyasha still takes place in a different world than ours because of the presence and general acceptance of physically distinct "demons" and other Ayakashi, but Kagome is from the future of that Isekai, so she is only travelling through time to the Sengoku Era. It's a rare example of a purely time travelling isekai but with a twist.
"Sengoku Komachi Kurou Tan" is an example of a purely time travelling type isekai that takes place in OUR world (no magic or demons)
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@@Nichols_Santa even if it's set on a different world than ours, the fact that it is the same world that she's from make it more time traveling than isekai. isekai would be something more like kagome traveling to our world in the past.
world a -> world a past is still in their world so not an isekai. but that's just my perspective and I understand and somewhat agree with your definition as well.
on another note, love to see someone else who reads komachi.
Being X had the understanding that the only way and best way for Tanya to ever 'accept' Being X as God is to put her in a 'dire situation', because Tanya before she was reincarnated, said as much, so she basically dug her own grave. Twice.
The problem is her refusal to accept God's existence despite the clear contradiction of her knowing they exist and still denying it. Realistically and in terms of anime logic, even in this world, she will never win against God because God is the one who gave her powers. Although she won't win against God, God may not be able to win her over either. The best result is a stalemate and truce because the harder she fights against God, the closer to death she'll get. On the other hand, the harder God tries to win her over, the more likely she'll be to overcome the challenges, so its a really pointless fight between an atheist and "deity".
Her presence also ends up bringing out the faith of God around her. She's literally being used as a tool so God, or Being-X, can get more people to become a lot more faithful to him.
The guns they are firing are relatively normal and so is the ammunition, what isn't normal is that they are using them as a delivery mechanism for magic. Also, Tanya has access to special equipment - for reasons I won't get into here - that allows her to use way more power than most others, so you will occasionally see her do some really crazy stuff.
Of course, there is a downside, that equipment also tries to control her mind so she doesn't use it much.
5:50 It’s not the guns, or the bullets. It’s magic. They cast explosion spells on the weapons to make the bullets explode on impact
when he said siux had power of god, he ment it literaly that god blessed them to rival tanya to fuck with her
I love this character, she is very evil , I also read the manga , pls react at the anime
Very evil, but also very lawful & by the book, at least as far as she can stretch & bend that book
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There’s actually a reason Mary was able to overpower Tanya for most of their second fight. It’s the same reason Tanya is so formidable despite her size. And that’s their computation jewels. The gems they wear around their necks. They allow them to channel and control magic. Tanya had an experimental jewel that only she could use, superior to all others because God helped a scientist make it, cursing it so that she can only use it if she prays to God. Because Tanya is an atheist(she doesn’t believe the being claiming to be God is actually God, so she calls him Being X), and the entire reason he reincarnated her is to *force* her to believe he is really God. Mary had an even more superior computation jewel that God helped make. You see, Mary and her father are both people that God has sent as obstacles to kill Tanya. The deal is, if Tanya manages to survive long enough to die a natural death without becoming a Christian, she can continue to reincarnate like everyone else(but without her memories) but if she doesn’t, the reincarnation cycle ends for her. So those obstacles(Mary and her father) are meant to kill Tanya. In other words. God is stacking the deck against her. That’s why he reincarnated her as a girl during wartime(to increase her chances of dying) and he also gave her a high aptitude for magic to ensure she would be drafted into the military. Tanya decided to enlist anyway, earlier than she would’ve been drafted, because her plan was to rise through the ranks as quickly as possible to get a nice cushy desk job(but it keeps backfiring because her constant promotions make her essential on the battlefield). So the entire show is basically Tanya vs God.
Not really, Mary is all powerful because she has THREE blessings from the Gods (as explained in the LN). Her compjewel is nothing special, she is pretty much overloading and bypassing it, she is a pure powerhouse of magic but has trouble controlling it. The impression given later is that she dies after the war is over because she burned her body out channeling so much magic through it trying to kill Tanya. Like her dad, she is mentally unstable.
The LN seems to be confused about Tanya's magic ability; on the one hand it says she has a huge "mana" reserve, but Victoria says there are plenty of mages with more magic than Tanya has. But it is her cursed Jewel and her emotion maturity, that makes her so powerful. Tanya is also psychotic; in that she feels almost no empathy for others and sees them as nothing but tools for her advancement. She knows this so she does NOT trust herself to make moral decisions, she puts her faith is the rules, allowing them to make her decisions for her.
Basically Tanya has to survive non stop interventions from god trying to get him to submit to him. Also her powers are powered by prayers so she has to pray to him to overcome a lot of her fights. She wouldn’t be as op if she didn’t pray to god who she has beef with for the entire series.
Gimme one of them GUNS and I promise yall... I'll be the hardest menace of 'em all!!🤣🤣🤣😂
To explain the weapons. In this world magic is a thing. The guns use magitec to fire spells along with the rounds.
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It's not guns that do the nuking it's them because their mages and the rifles and bullets are mediums to channel their spells
I see myself in Tanya.
Normally yes since that is a Trope for Isekai for male character to be sent to another world but there's a few times that a woman have been anime character has been Isekai. But on that note yeah Tanya is a freaking spawn of Satan seeking world domination!😈
The dynamic was changing that's why when the male character die the either turn into a woman or resemble one
isekai is a genre where the mc or a group of mc's are killed off and then transported/summoned/reincarnated into a different world
"i-sekai" Literally "different world" any story where a person is placed in a different world - usually with a different commonsense and different "rules" (physics/magic) Such worlds may be analogous to games, stories, or even historical periods (with slight differences)
Tanya is an amazing series. Watch it.
You should read the manga and watch the anime. The manga gives a bit more detail, context, and some comedy. As well as a different art style. Both are really good
The guns they are using are basically WW1 guns. I mean, the war she is in is basically WW1 (trench warfare) with a bit of WW2 mixed in
It's not the gun she is using, it's God's power. Whenever she prays and offers God worship, she can use instant kill power. But she chooses not to do so unless absolutely necessary because she wants to spite him
Tanya the evil is amazing and i highly recommend you watch it
Well, whatever relationship Tanya is in is forever going to be gay no matter what.
I am soo looking forward to Season 2 of Tanya.
One of the classic Isekai Fushigi Yuugi has two girls so it’s not always guys.
TWO girls?! Yooo, I need to check that one out! 🤩
1:38 No, there are some Isekai where a female protagonist is isekaid
isekaied to another world is not just for guys, here are a few female isekia, acendance of a book worm, so i'm a spider, i spent 500 years killing slimes now i'm OP, and make my stats avarage.
They use magic
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you keep asking what the guns are and i Do think they're just regular ass rifles (mostly) but are reinforced with magic and using artillary spells and the like.
Basically, if magic and science worked together. No mysteries, everything is laid out in the open, with potential Mages always been searched for training and recruitment.
Mages from the Fate franchise would be flipping out at this other world. Ain't gonna lie, I would love a crossover just to see their reactions! 🤣
@@MrDibara I thought Fate was mostly swordsmen.
@@emircanozad914 *You know TOO LITTLE if that's your take on the Fate franchise.*
@@MrDibara I mean I kind of saw through some vids but still though. Fate has many parts like Jojo. That wide.
@@emircanozad914 It's not about Parts.
Fate is literally *multiverse personified.*
Every single entry is almost its own timeline, where the lore was different at one point or not.
The CLOSEST to a chronology we have is:
Fate/Zero --> Fate/Stay Night --> Lord El-Melloi II: Case Files _(happens almost at the same time as FSN)_ --> Lord El-Melloi II Adventures _(dunno if that's the title, I forgot)_
And EVEN THEN, _some argue Fate/Zero might not even be a true prequel._ Even IT could be its own timeline.
However, all entries share a lot of world building in common.
Namely, the society of the Mages
You learn how they work in one entry, that's their modus operandi in general.
And I repeat myself, they would be FLIPPING THE FUCK OUT at the world of Tanya for mixing magic and science together! 🤣
theres actually some anime where a woman go isekaied into another world i can name some if you want
There are some originally female characters that got isekaid.
Why haven't I seen that last part with the daughter, Did I miss an OVA or something??
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Isekai is just dying and being reincarnated in another world
Dave, did you post this video at like 4:00 am or something?
Bro, it's 8:30am more or less here and RUclips's saying you posted this only *four hours* ago!
*Oh well... fire reaction.* 👍
Still, you could've just posted this by morning! No need to sacrifice your sleep.
And yes, I know time-zones are a thing, but I'm from Brazil. Pretty sure there's not that much difference between both of our time-zones if you live in the US. So take care, mate.
By the way, isekai is just when you go to another world. That's it.
Yes, there _is_ a very big prevalence of isekai protagonists all originally being male, but that's not always the case. Azusa Aizawa and the girl from "Ascendance of a Bookworm" are two examplea of isekai protagonists that were women (or even just girls) in their prievious life.
Personally, I wanna find more isekais with female protagonists. Aside from a few great exceptions, most isekais with male protagonists just feel "more of the same", if you catch my drift.
No sleep is sacrificed. I do all my recording at night for the next day. I just choose to release some of them now as opposed to my regular schedule because I want to be one of the first to have an upload. Does well for the algorithm as you can see 😁
@@whatitdodave Oh, I see.
Smart move, mate! Hope you're doing well, then! 😁👍
Ironically, Isekia used to be considered a girls genre: they nearly always had female protagonists and were largely romance/historical based; then you got a few anime that crossed those over with shonen tropes, Inuyasha probably being the most famous; then you got some fanservice heavy harem romance isekai LN and anime, like, "guy falls through his mirror and ends up on a female only planet"; then some shonen combat isekai; then sword art's profitability inspired lots of power fantasy imitators and the existing Korean/Chinese LN isekais lead a shift towards reincarnation isekias.
Isiki is when a person gets rencarnated. They can be male or female
Isekai is usually male characters, but there are some female Isekai characters out there.
for isekai its not always a guy theyres alot of ones who are girls like kumo and i forgot her name but a dating sim one.
more often than not, yeah its a male if we are talking about the MC, they will throw women too but they will be supporting characters. i dont remember a female MC being thrown into Isekai. Unless they literally reincarnate the male into female body. but that doesnt really count i think lol.
Oh wait as im typing typing this i remember there was 1 that released a few years ago where the MC was female lol. The Saint's Magic Ability is Omnipotent (聖女の魔力は万能です, Seijo no Maryoku wa Bannou
its not always a male, Ascendance of a Bookworm is female mc
nah nah nah nah nah......... this video does not do marry sue justice. you wanna know why tanya was getting beat like that you gotta watch the fight shit was insane.
I can't name them but there are a couple of easy guys that that a female it's isekai
Isekai is in your own body isekai tensei is reincarnated into another world in another body infant or not
Reincarnation in another world counts as isekai. "Isekai" literally means another world. Technically Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid could be considered an isekai as the dragons came from another world into the regular world.
Nope, Isekai can be male, female, other, animal, object, etc.
definitely etc lol there is one where the person comes back as a vending machine lol
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