the interior for me is the worst part... i can understand paint imperfections like dust nibs and scuffs from transporting and improper washing at dealerships , but miss aligned exterior panels , interior trim loose and miss aligned , liner on the sun visor sagging , dome lights improper instillation , rear seat not folding down like it should , i wouldn't have accepted delivery without those issues being fixed first. especially on a midsize car that costs $55,990. in the midsize cross over class 56k can buy you alot higher quality elsewhere.
@@TheDaltonmichaels it's a bullshit company run by a bullshit artist who should rocket to Mars. The good news is EVs from rwal car companies are coming soon, assuming they survive 2020.
@@markreynolds9135 And my concern is that the quality control problems are probably not limited to cosmetic issues. If you've got assembly issues on simple plastic components and things like that. You have to wonder about what issues might be lurking in more mechanical and electrical stuff. You can tell that Tesla is definitely a technology company more than a auto manufacturer. You could go buy the cheapest Hyundai Accent and not have these kind of defects on the exterior or interior. On a $60,000 car this is absolutely ridiculous. I like Tesla's in many ways they're fast and they get a lot of things right but they definitely have issues in this area. And at this point they are 8 years into this and still haven't figured out how to get these minor defects caught before the car leaves the factory.
@@truantray And I hear stuff like that a lot., I think overall they're basically reliable but the cost to repair out-of-pocket if it wasn't covered under warranty is just astronomical. A door handle cost over $900. CV axles which are a common fail in the Model X are $850 each. I can get a door handle for my Prius for 50 bucks and a drive axle for 60 bucks. I realize it's not the same class of car but that would be true with a Camry or a RAV4 or a sienna or any other vehicle. If I do go electric I'm leaning more towards either a used Chevrolet Bolt EV or perhaps a new one if they're offering deep discounts. I'd love to get a Hyundai Kona or Kia e niro but you can't find them. what's crazy is the bolt EV actually has more rear legroom and headroom than a Model 3. And the front seats are decent also although their little thin and some people complain about them being uncomfortable. Supposedly 2019-2020 they resolve that issue and I think 2021 the car is going to get a complete redo interior and exterior
we should compare it to the other $70k cars that have self driving, app connection and control, ota updates, 0-60 in 3.5s..and a million other features. Oh thats right, because there are literally none..
@@rtsstream So that makes it right to sell a car with cut trim, scuffs, not operational folding seats, sagging liner and interior pieces not even installed properly. Do you even listen to yourself? Oh and by ota updates you mean Tesla removing options that were paid for, right?
This stuff just makes my blood boil.Maybe as I was in Toyota"s Quality Assurance Division responsible for exterior quality including panel fit and paint condition you'd understand why, but in my mind, this stuff's just unforgivable 😡
@@bishplis7226 I looked at one last week. Same random issues on almost every car. Problems that cry of poorly trained workers slapping the cars together on a too fast assembly line that that are trying to keep up with. Like 1970s British car level of poor fit and finish. My Mustang by comparison is nearly perfect, solid, and every line and angle is identical throughout. Made in Detroit with union labor. Not even nearly at the level of Mercedes or Lexus - just put together correctly everywhere and done right.
Pitiful that most Tesla owners also try to compare their flaws to other brands. Quit passing the buck and start demanding a quality product from Tesla. Tesla needs to get a grip on their quality control processes.
LotusLambo sorry to burst your bubble bud but I like Teslas for the following reasons: Insane performance per dollar Best driving tech Best interface Simple interior Charging network Mobile rangers I’ve owned many high performance vehicles and most of them were also luxury. Had more fun driving my performance model 3 than all of them. I’ve also spent next to nothing over 60k miles besides tires. I’m swapping to a model Y performance but if not for that, I’d have zero concerns trying to drive my car for 440,000 miles more. Show me the BMW, Mercedes, Lexus or anything else that I won’t have spent 50%+ of the MSRP fueling and maintaining over that amount of miles. Likely double in fact as mechanics for ICE vehicles stop being a thing over the next couple decades. I’m either adding a Bronco or Jeep to our family Later this year or early next and then I’m adding a Cybertruck and that’s it for me and my wife for life. I know both Teslas will last for as many miles as We will drive the rest of the way and we’re not even 40. All three vehicles will be relatively timeless by design so the temptation to replace will likely never be there. In other words in the car world these are the best investments. I’m in the solar business, so all of my fuel comes from my roof except for supercharging and I’ve referred enough people that It’ll be years of road trips before i pay $.01 to charge.
That's a problem for litarally every American brand. They have zero pride in making cars. Management only care about shareholders and the employees just wanna end their shift. That's why i only buy Japanese. Everything in Japan is put together with love and passion even the pens they make
Your comments and observations regarding Tesla paint quality are very accurate. When I was an estimator at Tesla approved body shop we were picking up so many defects that it was unbelievable. We marked up one new silver S so much it looked like a leopard. Sometime it appears their robot paint machines were dramatically out of sync as to be laughable! Sorry to hear it is as bad as ever....😱
@@ChicagoAutoPros Tesla has a direct sales model. No dealers. No dealer to touch up paint issues. Tesla will repair all those paint issues you discovered, for free... even after taking delivery, therefore no need to pay Chicago Auto Pros to do these touch ups. Very poor advice. Very unprofessional.
Especially when you're starting your own detailing business and people think it's just a vacuum and wash but no its more than that what's worth more than just a simple vacuum and wash
I completely agree! As a comsumer of vehiles I do know what it takes to make a car appear "new"! Tesla has a known issue with the details/painting application process. what is a bit of a bummer is that Tesla actually charges for paint other than black/white. They shouldn't based on jsut how subpar there paint is to begin with! Considering who buys a Tesla, it's gonna be owned for several years simply based of the use/intended purpose of the vehicle.
Waste of money on a depreciating "asset" lol. When you trade in the car or sale it no one will care that you spent 5k+ on something that will get trashed after a year of ownership.
probably very similar in quality. but since its fun to hate on Tesla, they made this video. When I was going to purchased a Lexus ES 3 years ago, there were dents in the chrome, the paint was peeling around the door and trunk seals and a whole bunch of small scratches in the paint. This isn't a Tesla problem, every car company has this problem.
@@zacharyking6171 Yea I was thinking the same although the peeling paint issue seems excessive. Although, I know a ton of American cars that have that problem.
@@zacharyking6171 no in no way did he ,,hate,, Tesla. In general a golf has better quality control than Tesla does, at least the European ones. You guys often seem to get worse cars with the same badge over there. Of course as he said you can't expect the paintwork to be absolutely flawless, but I have never seen a car being delivered to the customer here, with the interior looking like this Tesla's did. I have as of yet not encountered peeling paint, the amount of dust nibs I can't judge, as I have never looked for them. Every other Brand at least gets their car to work when it's being delivered
That $20k still spews brain destroying exhaust particulates, and has to be fueled with a corrosive substance that emits brain damaging fumes. Maybe there's more to consider here than just paint?
@@T1Oracle How about the nuclear reactor that generates unspent highly radioactive waste with a half life of 50000 years, the coal burning power plant, the bird killing wind farm or the hydroelectric dam that destroyed the environment, displaced 5000 homeowners and flooded the nesting grounds for multiple defenseless species. Enjoy your Tesla.
Doe Joe; And now it’s time for DJ to take a warm 🛀 bath and chill TF out. You are all over the place. We are burning coal, and yet we have wind farms...We have Hydroelectric Damns that are dangerous. How come you didn’t take a shot at the Solar Industry? You surely have some issues with them as well... What the world wants to know is what Doe Joe would do? Oh please tell...
Say what you want about how your luxury electric car is saving the earth. The point here, and to people who like keeping their cars shiny, is the cosmetic condition. Fortunately, a good shop can fix most of these things and do what the manufacturers are not willing to do.
not to mention when an amateur painter/dept tries to "match" an effect coat or pearl XD talk about multiple days worth of work/waste and man hours/$$$ that a shop will never get back
"We're gonna do it over and over till we get it..." The Chicago Auto Pros moto and mantra... Love your work if only you were on this side of the pond!!!
I notice some car manufacturers truck their cars about with lots of white or blue plastic wrap. On JLR cars we receive them with a lot of this covering on the body and even foam inlays/panels covering the interior pieces like door cards and centre consoles. All to protect the paint, leather etc before the customer gets it.
Love2FFu Mister Can anyone confirm that the Tesla 3 and Y are the safest vehicles on the road, even ahead of Volvo and Mercedes Benz? If true that’s a good reason for a pass on detailing and perfect panel alignment. They also have the most advanced electric motors of any EV on the market and cost half the amount of an ice vehicle to run. There’s your free pass on aesthetics.
@BLACKVIEW USA Munro & Associates Engineering who subcontract for Lockheed Martin and Boeing from time to time have pulled apart a Model Y and they were once again critical of some aspects of the panel alignment and especially critical of the paint job, in fact at the end of the series Munro pleaded with Elon Musk to contact a world-leading connection he has in the automotive industry to get the paint issue fixed in the Tesla factories. But they’ve been very impressed with everything else about the Model Y, even blown away with some of the advanced tech they found, saying that no other manufacturer does some of the things he found in the Model Y. Sandy Munro doesn’t recommend a vehicle if it has too many faults, he didn’t recommend the Tesla Model 3, but he found major improvements in the Model Y over the Model 3 and highly recommended the Y. This take down series of the Model Y was very good and worth watching. Enjoy: ruclips.net/video/0onKJm4aYfU/видео.html
Wow! this video inspired me to slap a wrap on my Tesla (way far in the future currently non-existent car) as soon as i get it! slap a satin black on it and paint the Dual Motor badge and the break calipers blue- and VOILA! my dream car!
Unfortunately what you see with their paint and fitment issues is a symptom of bigger problems. Their production quality and quality control issues on the outside are also on the inside, as shown by them being ranked 23rd in reliability amongst the major automotive brands.
I feel you, just spent 20 hour correcting a Tesla Model 3, were the dealership tried to get rid of the adheisive residue with a rotary. My good it looked awful... the owner was shoked! There is also missing Base-Coat on several parts of the car (hood, fender, trunk), and i also found 2 Dustnibbs. If I would order a car by myself, I would take it completly covered in the protective plastics and unwrap it myself. The amount of work I had das unbelivable. First when I wanted to pickup the car with the customer, they didn't want to hand over the car to the customer, because they saw that I carried an inspection light on me :D If you pickup a Tesla, bring a small LED light.
Please do one of these videos on some of tesla's competitors,like the taycan,im having same issues with my taycan and can you please show the taycan's paint issue aswell thank you.
I have a question for you. Wanted to know if you have seen this issue. I received my Tesla Model Y. White. Around the edge of both headlights in the corner the paint is missing. Almost like it wasn't painted all the way to the edge. The head lights don't cover it. So, it does stand out. Is this something that can be touched up or does the bumper have to be repainted. Like your input. Thank you.
I’m in Chicago and I am wondering if this is out of the Lombard or glen view location. I will be picking up a new car soon and would like to bring it in for a few services.
This is why I cancelled my model X 10 minutes after ordering it online. I’ve seen some bad things from them as the Quality just isn’t there. Thanks for the video!
Shittiest paint I've ever worked on so many different thickness readings on a brandnew model X door jambs had very minimal paint you almost see the base coat and at the door hinges it was all white base coat and imagine it being a red car. Then only opened the doors to find somany already broken brittle plastic trims ie. Around the bottom of the seats
I work for Honda R&D and we had 2 Tesla’s which we inspected. It was so bad we couldn’t believe it left the factory.. panel fitment is a real issue with them.
Tesla will usually correct those issues - problem is that after you take the car in to get the issues confirmed, it takes months and months before anything more happens.
Dude that is one car. Btw I am from germany. I live between Ingolstadt (Audi HQ) and Munich (BMW HQ) and daily drive a BMW, but these things are common. The new Porsche Taycan has issues like this (180k car) and the Audi e-tron as well. The speaker in the a pillar was not fitting properly and was looking like it was falling out. So yeah
if the car i snot washed how can they drive it? i have gotten cars to get ready for use and they have vax all over, a thick coat that make the windscreen impassible to look thru. and grease markers all over. numbers and letters all over the windscreen. some times we found the remains of the lush from the workers etc. tools forgotten in the car ++ it have papers glued to the windows with factory info. import routs etc. so you need "some preparation" befor you get it.
@@kristenburnout1 LOL..you are saying your ONE car has no problems. Thats a huge sample size there..great thanks for settling that. In the same way my Tesla has zero paint or alignment issues. So that means this video is obviously false, right? I have a 2018 golf, 2019 tacoma, 2019 cr-v...they ALL have paint issues. actually some of them have panel alignment issues as well. One thing none of them have is LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE THE TESLA OFFERS. I love how people act like we buy teslas for the paint. As if you can compare some ICE car with zero features to a car that can literally do anything. And then just concentrate on some minor paint defects as if every other feature of the car has no cost and the 70k price is just for a painted body. SMH
kristenburnout1 I disagree with your assessment - my $125k E63s has vibrations and design issues like every other car on the road. Tesla issues are magnified and scrutinized/hated on cause they are they are the “Pioneers” in the industry - Just like Apple. Haters will hate.
My Model 3 doesn't have any of these issues, but it had a big scrape on the front bumper which they replaced completely after a couple months. The problem is states are very restrictive because Tesla doesn't play the dealership game. They have to truck these things around quite a bit and they sometimes get beat up.
I bought a new car recently and I'm so glad I asked not to prep the car. Beyond having the satisfaction of taking off all the plastics and protectors, when I went to the dealership the cars we're really dirty from the transportation and I saw the guy 'washing' the other car with a quick detailer. I washed mine carefully and did not find any imperfections!
So sad to see that they can't get a handle on these things from the factory, my Model 3 had some issues to, but to Tesla's credit they fixed it all with no issue.
This is a great video, great inspection for us consumers: Don’t get details from dealers Bring an LED light to the dealership and scope out flaws Understand both exterior and interior flaws Negotiate Wow, the fabric, the trim and the scuffs? Brand new vehicle? That’s pretty insane!! Good video 😢
Pretty normal actually, in the new taycan we had lots of panel gap issues. The e tron has issues with the speakers in the a pillar. They sometimes look like they are falling off. So it is pretty common for cars to be produced like this. Usually the dealer will take care of this. Oh and btw, the dealer never details the car. Every bmw, audi, vw, Porsche, mercedes etc. Car dealer brings them to a local detailer.
I thought Tesla didnt do negotiation pretty much? No matter what you say the price is the price or else just don't buy it. That might just be because I never bought a Tesla that I dont know how it's really done though.. I also agree that lots of cars have those outside marks, but I think the inside here looked pretty bad honestly.. I think thats pretty common for the first 1000-2000 or so teslas of each production line though and after that they seem to get it better over time. (not talking about alignment or dust in the paint now but rather big flaws in the interior).
what would be the price of doing paint correction on this model Y? i realize every car is different, but now that you made me paranoid about my yet to be delivered Y, I'd like to get an idea of what i'm looking at. I am interested in only correction and ceramic coating, due to the high cost of film.
I would like to give a shout out to Car Guy Supplies. I stopped in your Lombard facility a couple weeks ago to take a look and get a small fix for my addiction of collecting detailing products. Sorry, I cant remember his name but he looks like you with a shorter beard. Great guy, knowledgeable and friendly. He recommended a few products that I already have but we finally found one and it is a winner. I will definitely be returning for other products and would love a tour of the shop if possible. About this video I will say Tesla is undoubtedly a technology company first and an automotive manufacturer second. Experienced in the Dealership world for 28 years I worked every position from Porter to Service Director. I believe you can safely make the "Blanket Statement" of "Sell them, Repair them, but please don't clean them. For the last 11 years I have been with the Federal government in vehicles and believe me in my 38 years dealing with cars both professionally and personally I have seen all types of vehicle conditions as well as the need for detailing shops such as yours.. Thank you!
I 100% agree, when a vehicle leaves the factory it can come with some paint defects. Also at a car dealership the personnel that work in the washbay sometimes won't care about the way a car looks because they just want to get paid. It's sad people just don't care about cars these days.
Kyle Nicholas ; If you were one of those people making $15.00/hour how much would you care? They are not high end professional detailers. They are grunts who work in the back at a car dealership cleaning up Chevy’s. 98% of the clientele don’t know a nib from a bib. Nor do they care. Oh look Harold they washed our Traverse for us. Isn’t that nice of them? Most people don’t even wash their car...ever. They were told that with today’s clear coat paints you don’t even have to wash your car anymore. Magic! I’ll just use a little of this waterless wash in a bottle I saw on FB and it’s got 2K five star reviews on Amazon. How can I go wrong?
This has been Teslas problem since day one. The have to go faster than they can go to stay afloat, and they sacrifice on detailing, build quality and finish. No matter how much of a fan you are, you have to recognize its ridiculous to have these problems on a car that costs 70k. All its plussides don't excuse the fact that a 25k Kia has better quality... Upping the price from 70 to 75k doesn't fix anything. They simply don't have the time or capacity to finish these cars properly. They have to be pushed out asap in order for the company not to go bankrupt
Holy crap I saw the channel name and was like oh maybe they r nearby, then I saw that u guys r in glenview and freaked out cus my parents work and GBS.
I have owned several new cars and NONE of them have had any build quality issues like these, panel misalignment or paint defects. VW Golf GTi mk4 BMW 320ci VW Golf GTi MK6 BMW520d Audi TT The TT had a slight dull spot but polished right out.
The exterior is about what I expected, the interior is unforgivable... my Model 3 has an excellent interior. I'm surprised they have those QC issues on the Y.
Wow. As a Tesla owner, I’m disappointed!! I got my model 3 and luckily I was aware of the paint and door gap issues. Well I inspected mine as best as I could and did notice one issue. They were great and offered to fix it immediately!
When I get a new car always look forward to the first chip, bird poop and mark. Having a new car stress is over with. Then I can drive for the next 15 to 20 years without a concern.
Leo Zalewski within the first six weeks of having my new car I had reversed into my garage with the boot hatch lid up, tore a small hole in the drivers seat with the button on my jeans, scraped the underneath of the (admittedly low) front spoiler by hitting a high kerb and oh, someone went into the back of me 🤦🏻
When my mom bought a new rav4 in 2018 a taxi took a turn way to close to the car and hit us, had to replace the whole front bumper; car only had a month when it happened
This is exactly how I just try to go about this. I've been OCD since June and its taking over my life rather than just using the car for what it's meant to do.... transport me.
I was hoping Tesla had finally figured out the paint on the cars, guess not. I rejected my first Model 3 based on the paint, the 2nd had a few very minor issues. I was thinking about a Y, but will give them time, who knows maybe they will figure it out...I doubt it.
Guys this is a business.... This is an add for detailing. Can we look at other cars besides tesla like lambo a koenigsegg or Bmw or benz. There's soo many panel gaps but we drive them all the time. And the car will get dented somewhere somehow. Shopping trolleys. Other car doors chips from the freeway... Its called life
It's my opinion that any Tesla these day especially the 1st batch should get the paint refinished. That means buffing and sanding off part of the top coat in some area and then having another layer of top coat over and then finish it. Some people are reporting orange peel on the paint that is unacceptable for car at this price level. The total cost of doing this can easily add another $2000.
I love the channel. I love to detail my cars. For me it’s literally therapy especially during times like now where we have a lot of TIME we never had before. With that said: You can’t make yourself into an OCD Klean Kar Phreak. YES! that is what we are but seriously it’s a car! Cars get driven. Cars are going to get dirty, scratched, dented....You can’t keep a daily driven car perfect. You can keep it nice but don’t make yourself sick with the auto detailing people. Have Fun!
Yeah, I have to agree with you. You can work forever and make your car look perfect, but you also have to drive it. Once you start driving you start getting things on your car that damage it and ruin your hard work. So my thing is -- as long as the paint protects the car from rust, I'm good.
Great instructional video. Most people are so caught up in taking possession of their new car, they don't look closely enough. This car is expensive, and I'm honestly shocked the Tesla dealers let it ouf their show room with the defects in the body (seats not going down, broken seat back -used headrest and cut in the plastic. Really pathetic. I want one of these cars and when I do get one, I'll be going over it with a fine tooth comb before I drive it away. Great point about not washing it.
@@Bryan-Hensley yeah I was just going to comment this, most of the price is the battery & the motors… the paint work & body alignment shows where the budget didn’t reach.
No car of the lot is perfect, ever. But, peeling paint...bro, that's unforgivable.
Yeah, that's really bad.
the interior for me is the worst part... i can understand paint imperfections like dust nibs and scuffs from transporting and improper washing at dealerships , but miss aligned exterior panels , interior trim loose and miss aligned , liner on the sun visor sagging , dome lights improper instillation , rear seat not folding down like it should , i wouldn't have accepted delivery without those issues being fixed first. especially on a midsize car that costs $55,990. in the midsize cross over class 56k can buy you alot higher quality elsewhere.
Chicago Auto Pros unacceptable bullshit wow!!
Gossip Heart Your base model was flawless? Please...
@@TheDaltonmichaels it's a bullshit company run by a bullshit artist who should rocket to Mars. The good news is EVs from rwal car companies are coming soon, assuming they survive 2020.
The exterior defects, I can forgive. But that interior? I would have taken it back right away. F that
Hamim Mahatab Tesla is notorious for poor quality control.
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And my concern is that the quality control problems are probably not limited to cosmetic issues.
If you've got assembly issues on simple plastic components and things like that. You have to wonder about what issues might be lurking in more mechanical and electrical stuff.
You can tell that Tesla is definitely a technology company more than a auto manufacturer.
You could go buy the cheapest Hyundai Accent and not have these kind of defects on the exterior or interior.
On a $60,000 car this is absolutely ridiculous.
I like Tesla's in many ways they're fast and they get a lot of things right but they definitely have issues in this area.
And at this point they are 8 years into this and still haven't figured out how to get these minor defects caught before the car leaves the factory.
@@markreynolds9135 the are a cult, selling to cultists.
@@kens97sto171 my neighbor loves her model X, but Tesla had to replace the entire vehicle twice in two years. Lease car.
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And I hear stuff like that a lot., I think overall they're basically reliable but the cost to repair out-of-pocket if it wasn't covered under warranty is just astronomical. A door handle cost over $900. CV axles which are a common fail in the Model X are $850 each. I can get a door handle for my Prius for 50 bucks and a drive axle for 60 bucks. I realize it's not the same class of car but that would be true with a Camry or a RAV4 or a sienna or any other vehicle.
If I do go electric I'm leaning more towards either a used Chevrolet Bolt EV or perhaps a new one if they're offering deep discounts. I'd love to get a Hyundai Kona or Kia e niro but you can't find them.
what's crazy is the bolt EV actually has more rear legroom and headroom than a Model 3. And the front seats are decent also although their little thin and some people complain about them being uncomfortable. Supposedly 2019-2020 they resolve that issue and I think 2021 the car is going to get a complete redo interior and exterior
Don't worry I hear they're working on a software update that will fix these problems over the air any day now!
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This is unacceptable for a 70k car.
we should compare it to the other $70k cars that have self driving, app connection and control, ota updates, 0-60 in 3.5s..and a million other features. Oh thats right, because there are literally none..
@@rtsstream So that makes it right to sell a car with cut trim, scuffs, not operational folding seats, sagging liner and interior pieces not even installed properly. Do you even listen to yourself? Oh and by ota updates you mean Tesla removing options that were paid for, right?
@@QuitProcrastinating dont let it bother you mate. These comments come and go. Were almost at escape velocity :)
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@@rtsstream Lol, the model Y doesn't have self driving
I do like Tesla and have to doubt about their Tech. but quality is very important to customer as well, Tesla needs to step up their game on that.
"The door will have to be repainted to look right" also "Minor issues" LOL right
Minor for a Tesla..
This stuff just makes my blood boil.Maybe as I was in Toyota"s Quality Assurance Division responsible for exterior quality including panel fit and paint condition you'd understand why, but in my mind, this stuff's just unforgivable 😡
Since Teslacustomers aren't carguys, they probably won't care about these issues.
i get a better finish with spraycans in my garage, tesla is a criminal company
@@bishplis7226 I looked at one last week. Same random issues on almost every car. Problems that cry of poorly trained workers slapping the cars together on a too fast assembly line that that are trying to keep up with. Like 1970s British car level of poor fit and finish. My Mustang by comparison is nearly perfect, solid, and every line and angle is identical throughout. Made in Detroit with union labor. Not even nearly at the level of Mercedes or Lexus - just put together correctly everywhere and done right.
Tesla’s quality control - hope you’re watching. I’d be annoyed as a new owner.
Not bad for new model. My Mercedes was 3x worse for twice the price
@@Deriggs007 yeah ofc. Your new Mercedes would have broken functions, misalignment and basically "chiped" paint in the corner. BS.
Pitiful that most Tesla owners also try to compare their flaws to other brands. Quit passing the buck and start demanding a quality product from Tesla. Tesla needs to get a grip on their quality control processes.
LotusLambo sorry to burst your bubble bud but I like Teslas for the following reasons:
Insane performance per dollar
Best driving tech
Best interface
Simple interior
Charging network
Mobile rangers
I’ve owned many high performance vehicles and most of them were also luxury. Had more fun driving my performance model 3 than all of them. I’ve also spent next to nothing over 60k miles besides tires. I’m swapping to a model Y performance but if not for that, I’d have zero concerns trying to drive my car for 440,000 miles more. Show me the BMW, Mercedes, Lexus or anything else that I won’t have spent 50%+ of the MSRP fueling and maintaining over that amount of miles. Likely double in fact as mechanics for ICE vehicles stop being a thing over the next couple decades.
I’m either adding a Bronco or Jeep to our family Later this year or early next and then I’m adding a Cybertruck and that’s it for me and my wife for life. I know both Teslas will last for as many miles as We will drive the rest of the way and we’re not even 40. All three vehicles will be relatively timeless by design so the temptation to replace will likely never be there. In other words in the car world these are the best investments.
I’m in the solar business, so all of my fuel comes from my roof except for supercharging and I’ve referred enough people that It’ll be years of road trips before i pay $.01 to charge.
That's a problem for litarally every American brand. They have zero pride in making cars. Management only care about shareholders and the employees just wanna end their shift. That's why i only buy Japanese. Everything in Japan is put together with love and passion even the pens they make
Your comments and observations regarding Tesla paint quality are very accurate. When I was an estimator at Tesla approved body shop we were picking up so many defects that it was unbelievable. We marked up one new silver S so much it looked like a leopard. Sometime it appears their robot paint machines were dramatically out of sync as to be laughable! Sorry to hear it is as bad as ever....😱
Correction.. When you first pick up your brand new car from the dealer you bring it straight to Chicago Auto Pros... Is what Jason meant to say guys😁💯
YES!
@@ChicagoAutoPros Tesla has a direct sales model. No dealers. No dealer to touch up paint issues. Tesla will repair all those paint issues you discovered, for free... even after taking delivery, therefore no need to pay Chicago Auto Pros to do these touch ups. Very poor advice. Very unprofessional.
@@KurtKobain01 Only problem is that it'll take 5 months before they find time to do the repair..
@@KurtKobain01 Tesla will actually make it worse, I wouldn't trust them, especially on a brand new vehicle.
@@harrisonhoffman5461 if you distrust them that much why would you even buy the vehicle?
I wish all people would understand how important car detailers are, we’re not normal people lol we notice everything🙌
Especially when you're starting your own detailing business and people think it's just a vacuum and wash but no its more than that what's worth more than just a simple vacuum and wash
I'm not a detailer, but a machinist, and I notice every imperfection in pretty much everything as well. It's a curse.
I completely agree! As a comsumer of vehiles I do know what it takes to make a car appear "new"! Tesla has a known issue with the details/painting application process. what is a bit of a bummer is that Tesla actually charges for paint other than black/white. They shouldn't based on jsut how subpar there paint is to begin with! Considering who buys a Tesla, it's gonna be owned for several years simply based of the use/intended purpose of the vehicle.
Waste of money on a depreciating "asset" lol. When you trade in the car or sale it no one will care that you spent 5k+ on something that will get trashed after a year of ownership.
Why can't you send your car back if it's this bad?
Can you do this kind of a video for a German luxury brand car curious how it compares
Similar
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probably very similar in quality. but since its fun to hate on Tesla, they made this video.
When I was going to purchased a Lexus ES 3 years ago, there were dents in the chrome, the paint was peeling around the door and trunk seals and a whole bunch of small scratches in the paint.
This isn't a Tesla problem, every car company has this problem.
@@zacharyking6171 Yea I was thinking the same although the peeling paint issue seems excessive. Although, I know a ton of American cars that have that problem.
@@zacharyking6171 no in no way did he ,,hate,, Tesla. In general a golf has better quality control than Tesla does, at least the European ones. You guys often seem to get worse cars with the same badge over there. Of course as he said you can't expect the paintwork to be absolutely flawless, but I have never seen a car being delivered to the customer here, with the interior looking like this Tesla's did. I have as of yet not encountered peeling paint, the amount of dust nibs I can't judge, as I have never looked for them. Every other Brand at least gets their car to work when it's being delivered
The paint on the corner of the hood you showed and some of the interior defects are unacceptable for a $20k car, and this cost 3x that probably.
That $20k still spews brain destroying exhaust particulates, and has to be fueled with a corrosive substance that emits brain damaging fumes. Maybe there's more to consider here than just paint?
@@T1Oracle How about the nuclear reactor that generates unspent highly radioactive waste with a half life of 50000 years, the coal burning power plant, the bird killing wind farm or the hydroelectric dam that destroyed the environment, displaced 5000 homeowners and flooded the nesting grounds for multiple defenseless species. Enjoy your Tesla.
@@T1Oracle Greta is that you?
Doe Joe; And now it’s time for DJ to take a warm 🛀 bath and chill TF out. You are all over the place. We are burning coal, and yet we have wind farms...We have Hydroelectric Damns that are dangerous. How come you didn’t take a shot at the Solar Industry? You surely have some issues with them as well... What the world wants to know is what Doe Joe would do? Oh please tell...
Say what you want about how your luxury electric car is saving the earth. The point here, and to people who like keeping their cars shiny, is the cosmetic condition. Fortunately, a good shop can fix most of these things and do what the manufacturers are not willing to do.
Man what a piece, I can drive a car 20k miles and 3yrs and still not have any of that besides micromarring
TheWolf Düde you are SO awesome! Can we hang out later today?
Great video, and glad to see someone highlighting the things a detailer’s eye sees in new car prep.
Should've seen some of the Model 3s I've seen with their uneven panel gaps and paint issues. Yikes.
Nice work as always, CAP.
not to mention when an amateur painter/dept tries to "match" an effect coat or pearl XD talk about multiple days worth of work/waste and man hours/$$$ that a shop will never get back
Tesla's motto: "Ehh...good enough."
Their cars are just embarassing.
@@hasangenc2922 their cars are actually so substantial in the market its amazing. But ay what would you know
@@YungEagle3k not really. Everyone who wants to be political correct drives a Tesla. Mandatory
fucking brilliant video, every tesla owner is now inspecting their paint thru delivery 👏👏
"We're gonna do it over and over till we get it..." The Chicago Auto Pros moto and mantra... Love your work if only you were on this side of the pond!!!
Wow! Thanks for posting this detailed look
I notice some car manufacturers truck their cars about with lots of white or blue plastic wrap. On JLR cars we receive them with a lot of this covering on the body and even foam inlays/panels covering the interior pieces like door cards and centre consoles. All to protect the paint, leather etc before the customer gets it.
Why does ppl give a pass to Tesla on all the quality issues? 😱
Because Tesla fanboys are Elons cuck sheep
Love2FFu Mister Can anyone confirm that the Tesla 3 and Y are the safest vehicles on the road, even ahead of Volvo and Mercedes Benz? If true that’s a good reason for a pass on detailing and perfect panel alignment. They also have the most advanced electric motors of any EV on the market and cost half the amount of an ice vehicle to run. There’s your free pass on aesthetics.
Because they think they save the world and get to paradise after death
@@wattlebough they're not
@BLACKVIEW USA Munro & Associates Engineering who subcontract for Lockheed Martin and Boeing from time to time have pulled apart a Model Y and they were once again critical of some aspects of the panel alignment and especially critical of the paint job, in fact at the end of the series Munro pleaded with Elon Musk to contact a world-leading connection he has in the automotive industry to get the paint issue fixed in the Tesla factories. But they’ve been very impressed with everything else about the Model Y, even blown away with some of the advanced tech they found, saying that no other manufacturer does some of the things he found in the Model Y. Sandy Munro doesn’t recommend a vehicle if it has too many faults, he didn’t recommend the Tesla Model 3, but he found major improvements in the Model Y over the Model 3 and highly recommended the Y. This take down series of the Model Y was very good and worth watching. Enjoy: ruclips.net/video/0onKJm4aYfU/видео.html
Lookin forward to se how they hold up over time.
The thumbnail makes it look like you have a temperature! 😋
Fantastic video guys, hope you are all well.
...And when we opened the hatch we found two hobos making love. Completely unacceptable straight from the factory.
"Thanks for the f shack
Love,
Dirty Mike and the boys"
Great job,keep up the good work!
The man is a master of his craft. Nice to see that.
Good inspection 👌
Wow! this video inspired me to slap a wrap on my Tesla (way far in the future currently non-existent car) as soon as i get it!
slap a satin black on it and paint the Dual Motor badge and the break calipers blue- and VOILA! my dream car!
Unfortunately what you see with their paint and fitment issues is a symptom of bigger problems. Their production quality and quality control issues on the outside are also on the inside, as shown by them being ranked 23rd in reliability amongst the major automotive brands.
@@stupidas9466 just check out Model 3 whompy wheels. Common issue, but possibly seriously dangerous.
I feel you, just spent 20 hour correcting a Tesla Model 3, were the dealership tried to get rid of the adheisive residue with a rotary. My good it looked awful... the owner was shoked! There is also missing Base-Coat on several parts of the car (hood, fender, trunk), and i also found 2 Dustnibbs. If I would order a car by myself, I would take it completly covered in the protective plastics and unwrap it myself. The amount of work I had das unbelivable. First when I wanted to pickup the car with the customer, they didn't want to hand over the car to the customer, because they saw that I carried an inspection light on me :D If you pickup a Tesla, bring a small LED light.
Thanks
I'd be pissed
The dust under the paint is unforgivable imho.
Tesla is notorious for poor quality yet Tesla owners seem to be willing to continue taking it in the backside.
Most paint is applied by robots these days on most cars, what do you expect.
Andre Rodriguez I expect the seats in my 50k car to fucking work lol.
Please do one of these videos on some of tesla's competitors,like the taycan,im having same issues with my taycan and can you please show the taycan's paint issue aswell thank you.
Great video
I have a question for you. Wanted to know if you have seen this issue. I received my Tesla Model Y. White. Around the edge of both headlights in the corner the paint is missing. Almost like it wasn't painted all the way to the edge. The head lights don't cover it. So, it does stand out. Is this something that can be touched up or does the bumper have to be repainted. Like your input. Thank you.
Respect for not BS about nothing for another 15 seconds to hit 10 min mark
The process before delivery is PDI which stands for pre delivery inspection
Nice video! Subscribed!
Those can be fixed with an in app purchase
I’m in Chicago and I am wondering if this is out of the Lombard or glen view location. I will be picking up a new car soon and would like to bring it in for a few services.
This is why I cancelled my model X 10 minutes after ordering it online. I’ve seen some bad things from them as the Quality just isn’t there. Thanks for the video!
That looks pretty serious, especially the interior. I wonder to what degree you'll find these marks and defects on a more experienced OEM
You find one thing they missed. The best tesla off the line has 10.
How much would it cost to do a was, a ppf, ceramic coating on the whole model Y?
Shittiest paint I've ever worked on so many different thickness readings on a brandnew model X door jambs had very minimal paint you almost see the base coat and at the door hinges it was all white base coat and imagine it being a red car. Then only opened the doors to find somany already broken brittle plastic trims ie. Around the bottom of the seats
I work for Honda R&D and we had 2 Tesla’s which we inspected. It was so bad we couldn’t believe it left the factory.. panel fitment is a real issue with them.
Great video Jason.
Tesla will usually correct those issues - problem is that after you take the car in to get the issues confirmed, it takes months and months before anything more happens.
Siempre buscando si los Tesla tienen problemas de pintrura. me gustaria saber si hacen lo mismo con otras marcas de automoviles.
Would reject a new car in that condition.
Raphael knowing Tesla they might take the car and never give you the money.. they’re horrible, they’re the Boeing of the car industry.
Made in the U.S.A ! What do you expect?!
Dude that is one car.
Btw I am from germany. I live between Ingolstadt (Audi HQ) and Munich (BMW HQ) and daily drive a BMW, but these things are common. The new Porsche Taycan has issues like this (180k car) and the Audi e-tron as well. The speaker in the a pillar was not fitting properly and was looking like it was falling out. So yeah
So are the worlds best missiles shut up peasant
@@Batvolle No these things are def not normal. Tesla quality is sub part, the paint is worst in the industry
@@mattbrew11 Those missiles will be very useful against COVID.
okleydokley if we stuck one into Wuhan on January 5 it would have cured it
if the car i snot washed how can they drive it? i have gotten cars to get ready for use and they have vax all over, a thick coat that make the windscreen impassible to look thru. and grease markers all over. numbers and letters all over the windscreen. some times we found the remains of the lush from the workers etc. tools forgotten in the car ++ it have papers glued to the windows with factory info. import routs etc. so you need "some preparation" befor you get it.
We sending that back if it were mine! Looks like a hire car after 4 months 😆
How does the condition of this Tesla compare to other car manufacturers when you get them in the shop with only 20 miles or so?
Every Tesla fanboy: "Paint issues, is that the best you got?"
I didnt buy a tesla for the paint. and all other new cars have the same problems., they just dont have everyone on youtube analyzing them
@@rtsstream But they don't though. We have the cheapest VW, and it didn't have nearly as many paint (or panel gap) issues as this 70 000 dollar car.
@@kristenburnout1 LOL..you are saying your ONE car has no problems. Thats a huge sample size there..great thanks for settling that. In the same way my Tesla has zero paint or alignment issues. So that means this video is obviously false, right? I have a 2018 golf, 2019 tacoma, 2019 cr-v...they ALL have paint issues. actually some of them have panel alignment issues as well. One thing none of them have is LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE THE TESLA OFFERS. I love how people act like we buy teslas for the paint. As if you can compare some ICE car with zero features to a car that can literally do anything. And then just concentrate on some minor paint defects as if every other feature of the car has no cost and the 70k price is just for a painted body. SMH
It’s a $60k car people.... not “Mona Lisa”. Eventually It’ll get dirty and scratches abound. Just drive and enjoy it.
kristenburnout1 I disagree with your assessment - my $125k E63s has vibrations and design issues like every other car on the road. Tesla issues are magnified and scrutinized/hated on cause they are they are the “Pioneers” in the industry - Just like Apple. Haters will hate.
This channel is a fking gem. Keep up the good work !!
Great work, is there someone you can recommend in the Los Angeles area ?
This video needs to be forwarded to Tesla's QA department. They need to see this. Or maybe Tesla doesn't even have one...?
I know it might vary by where you live but does anyone know how much fixing these types of issues might cost just ballpark what it might be?
Then there's me with my 2001 proton with touchup paint from the previous owner on the hood before of rock chips xD
My Model 3 doesn't have any of these issues, but it had a big scrape on the front bumper which they replaced completely after a couple months.
The problem is states are very restrictive because Tesla doesn't play the dealership game. They have to truck these things around quite a bit and they sometimes get beat up.
I bought a new car recently and I'm so glad I asked not to prep the car. Beyond having the satisfaction of taking off all the plastics and protectors, when I went to the dealership the cars we're really dirty from the transportation and I saw the guy 'washing' the other car with a quick detailer. I washed mine carefully and did not find any imperfections!
Yes, you saved your self a lot of money and time.
So sad to see that they can't get a handle on these things from the factory, my Model 3 had some issues to, but to Tesla's credit they fixed it all with no issue.
Super Video. 👍
I never check my car, I know that within a week it will have new scratches on every door, but the interior is another story.
I got a full cermic coat... it did little. Your car/truck will scratch you cant stop it. Best thing to do is get a lighter color. I got black
My local dodge Jeep fiat dealer ships their new vehicles directly to the nearby detail shop to be prepped
what paint inspection light?
Wow I’m shocked with all the defects
This is a great video, great inspection for us consumers:
Don’t get details from dealers
Bring an LED light to the dealership and scope out flaws
Understand both exterior and interior flaws
Negotiate
Wow, the fabric, the trim and the scuffs? Brand new vehicle? That’s pretty insane!!
Good video 😢
Pretty normal actually, in the new taycan we had lots of panel gap issues. The e tron has issues with the speakers in the a pillar. They sometimes look like they are falling off. So it is pretty common for cars to be produced like this. Usually the dealer will take care of this. Oh and btw, the dealer never details the car. Every bmw, audi, vw, Porsche, mercedes etc. Car dealer brings them to a local detailer.
I thought Tesla didnt do negotiation pretty much? No matter what you say the price is the price or else just don't buy it. That might just be because I never bought a Tesla that I dont know how it's really done though.. I also agree that lots of cars have those outside marks, but I think the inside here looked pretty bad honestly.. I think thats pretty common for the first 1000-2000 or so teslas of each production line though and after that they seem to get it better over time. (not talking about alignment or dust in the paint now but rather big flaws in the interior).
Tesla’s motto: “We don’t have time to do it right, but have time to do it twice “ 😜
Perfect 😆
What is the color name of the model Y in this video? I like it a lot
Matteo Mori Midnight silver PMNG
8:00 that plastic is slightly above c5 corvette quality
what would be the price of doing paint correction on this model Y? i realize every car is different, but now that you made me paranoid about my yet to be delivered Y, I'd like to get an idea of what i'm looking at. I am interested in only correction and ceramic coating, due to the high cost of film.
I'd bet they paid $600-$1000 at a quality shop like that.
Hello What is the paint tickness to expect on a tesla? Other car manufactures?
German and japanese cars are fine.
I would like to give a shout out to Car Guy Supplies. I stopped in your Lombard facility a couple weeks ago to take a look and get a small fix for my addiction of collecting detailing products. Sorry, I cant remember his name but he looks like you with a shorter beard. Great guy, knowledgeable and friendly. He recommended a few products that I already have but we finally found one and it is a winner. I will definitely be returning for other products and would love a tour of the shop if possible. About this video I will say Tesla is undoubtedly a technology company first and an automotive manufacturer second. Experienced in the Dealership world for 28 years I worked every position from Porter to Service Director. I believe you can safely make the "Blanket Statement" of "Sell them, Repair them, but please don't clean them. For the last 11 years I have been with the Federal government in vehicles and believe me in my 38 years dealing with cars both professionally and personally I have seen all types of vehicle conditions as well as the need for detailing shops such as yours.. Thank you!
You met Jimmy. He's always at the front desk. Knows his stuff!
Serious car defects. I would get the PP done but I don't have the time to take care of it during the winter.
This is not a new Car. We here in Germany would say this is an accident Car and it was cheaply repaired in Russia. 😟
I 100% agree, when a vehicle leaves the factory it can come with some paint defects. Also at a car dealership the personnel that work in the washbay sometimes won't care about the way a car looks because they just want to get paid. It's sad people just don't care about cars these days.
Kyle Nicholas ; If you were one of those people making $15.00/hour how much would you care? They are not high end professional detailers. They are grunts who work in the back at a car dealership cleaning up Chevy’s. 98% of the clientele don’t know a nib from a bib. Nor do they care. Oh look Harold they washed our Traverse for us. Isn’t that nice of them? Most people don’t even wash their car...ever. They were told that with today’s clear coat paints you don’t even have to wash your car anymore. Magic! I’ll just use a little of this waterless wash in a bottle I saw on FB and it’s got 2K five star reviews on Amazon. How can I go wrong?
@@metaljew4456 there is no reason to wash your car if youre not living near sea/freezing weather
This has been Teslas problem since day one. The have to go faster than they can go to stay afloat, and they sacrifice on detailing, build quality and finish.
No matter how much of a fan you are, you have to recognize its ridiculous to have these problems on a car that costs 70k. All its plussides don't excuse the fact that a 25k Kia has better quality...
Upping the price from 70 to 75k doesn't fix anything. They simply don't have the time or capacity to finish these cars properly. They have to be pushed out asap in order for the company not to go bankrupt
U were almost there. 😁
Holy crap I saw the channel name and was like oh maybe they r nearby, then I saw that u guys r in glenview and freaked out cus my parents work and GBS.
OK. Now I understand why they make this "contactless delivery". I would like to know how you come back to them with all those flaws,
You simply report it, return or have it picked up for you and they take care of it.
@BLACKVIEW USA For most it is, there are plenty of reviews on it on YT.
@BLACKVIEW USA that's exactly how the Tesla sales model works. Service in Germany is almost non existent for that reason.
Where to go in SoCal?
I have owned several new cars and NONE of them have had any build quality issues like these, panel misalignment or paint defects.
VW Golf GTi mk4
BMW 320ci
VW Golf GTi MK6
BMW520d
Audi TT
The TT had a slight dull spot but polished right out.
Amazing build quality 🤣
The exterior is about what I expected, the interior is unforgivable... my Model 3 has an excellent interior. I'm surprised they have those QC issues on the Y.
mcgaurya000 the first few model Ys will have these problems. I imagine these issues will be improved going forward. Tesla is new at this.
You are lucky then. Model 3s have the same issues here in Germany.
@@hasangenc2922 Same issues as of a week ago. Massively overpriced for what you get.
Wow. As a Tesla owner, I’m disappointed!! I got my model 3 and luckily I was aware of the paint and door gap issues. Well I inspected mine as best as I could and did notice one issue. They were great and offered to fix it immediately!
I like Tesla hopefully they get it right down the road.
When I get a new car always look forward to the first chip, bird poop and mark. Having a new car stress is over with. Then I can drive for the next 15 to 20 years without a concern.
Leo Zalewski within the first six weeks of having my new car I had reversed into my garage with the boot hatch lid up, tore a small hole in the drivers seat with the button on my jeans, scraped the underneath of the (admittedly low) front spoiler by hitting a high kerb and oh, someone went into the back of me 🤦🏻
When my mom bought a new rav4 in 2018 a taxi took a turn way to close to the car and hit us, had to replace the whole front bumper; car only had a month when it happened
This is exactly how I just try to go about this. I've been OCD since June and its taking over my life rather than just using the car for what it's meant to do.... transport me.
I love Teslas but damn. The interior problems are not good at all.
I would take the car back for sure.
I was hoping Tesla had finally figured out the paint on the cars, guess not. I rejected my first Model 3 based on the paint, the 2nd had a few very minor issues. I was thinking about a Y, but will give them time, who knows maybe they will figure it out...I doubt it.
Lots of new Ferraris have/had problems as well. Sanding marks and overspray. So in that light it's not THAT bad.
Would it be better to get a car in say white and then get the whole thing repainted?
Guys this is a business.... This is an add for detailing. Can we look at other cars besides tesla like lambo a koenigsegg or Bmw or benz. There's soo many panel gaps but we drive them all the time. And the car will get dented somewhere somehow. Shopping trolleys. Other car doors chips from the freeway... Its called life
Cool!
It's my opinion that any Tesla these day especially the 1st batch should get the paint refinished. That means buffing and sanding off part of the top coat in some area and then having another layer of top coat over and then finish it. Some people are reporting orange peel on the paint that is unacceptable for car at this price level. The total cost of doing this can easily add another $2000.
I love the channel. I love to detail my cars. For me it’s literally therapy especially during times like now where we have a lot of TIME we never had before. With that said: You can’t make yourself into an OCD Klean Kar Phreak. YES! that is what we are but seriously it’s a car! Cars get driven. Cars are going to get dirty, scratched, dented....You can’t keep a daily driven car perfect. You can keep it nice but don’t make yourself sick with the auto detailing people. Have Fun!
Yeah, I have to agree with you. You can work forever and make your car look perfect, but you also have to drive it. Once you start driving you start getting things on your car that damage it and ruin your hard work. So my thing is -- as long as the paint protects the car from rust, I'm good.
Would love to see a M3 US vs M3 China Quality comparision. Wouldn't be suprised if the China M3 is much better.
As ammo says the dealer had installed the swirls for him
(correction) the Tesla 3 I just detailed only had 4.1 mils total with my depth gauge! Brand new car!
That's scary 😱
Great instructional video. Most people are so caught up in taking possession of their new car, they don't look closely enough. This car is expensive, and I'm honestly shocked the Tesla dealers let it ouf their show room with the defects in the body (seats not going down, broken seat back -used headrest and cut in the plastic. Really pathetic. I want one of these cars and when I do get one, I'll be going over it with a fine tooth comb before I drive it away. Great point about not washing it.
The car is very cheap. The battery is $24,000 of the price.
@@Bryan-Hensley yeah I was just going to comment this, most of the price is the battery & the motors… the paint work & body alignment shows where the budget didn’t reach.