@@whitezombie10 so you never heard about the Latin America, specially for Brazil, In other countries is a common sense you finish te school and go to the university, here only the richer people can afford studying after the 18
@@whitezombie10 are you sure about that? But the US always had this policy it’s only during the Great Depression america had government involvement but america always was a policy that people need to learn how to look after them selves and not baby off the government
@@xplicitgoofy1015 Therefore, the USA full of homeless. No thanks, I stay in Germany. I got my college almost for free and no debt. I have never seen so much homelessness like in New York. I have been there.
that will change soon , tons of people are dying right now or getting seriously ill .. in a few years you can decide which company you work for and theyll pay you a great wage
Bull shit. Wojak starts 100k down, the guy that gets the job starts from his dad or uncle’s recommendation. They need to stop telling working class kids a 50k plus loan and hard work puts them on the same footing as the kid that fucks off on European vacations but has parents as partners in the company.
Anything that's entry level or junior shouldn't have any years experience with ofc some basic requirements and major. But whats absurd about company nowadays is them expecting us to work ourselves to death hitting goal and having a decade years old experience.
In my experience, it doesn't really mean anything. They write this to filter out the lazy-asses without drive, applying for the job. If you are the right man for the job, even without experience, they will hire you. So don't be scared by it and apply anyway.
@@FireJach no jobs a turnt just bring a bottle better to be a doomer at work and happy outside of it dont be afraid to smoke weed instead of drinking but thats what i recomend i just meditate at work and put on a smile makes it much better dont forget jogs on my lunch break
@@FireJach It's better to find a job that pays "just ok" but you really enjoy and forget about time, than it is to get a job that pays twice that but you feel miserable and look at your wrist watch every ten minutes to see how long until lunch or you get to go home. There's no point in wasting your life chasing the dollar just to impress your hollow "friends" yet feel miserable all the time.
At least he managed to get a job. Some of us don't even get a call back after applying and are forced to work minimum wage, low-skilled jobs with extremely high turnover rates to survive.
@@sadhu7191 you deserve to have the right eat soy and be furnished by work people or your parents who inflation is eating alive and now they will never get a chance to enjoy because they have to take care of an adult that blames everything except themselves
@@markstewart6069 I was in special Ed in high school. I still get there and their mixed up but I can play go board game and grow cannabis and mushrooms.
@Nope Leave Me Alone Some people have no choice. Not everyone has their brain wired a certain way or access to education. You sound like someone who is talking down on others from a privileged position or that is genetically gifted (or not genetically disadvantaged). We're not all the same. Some people are better in other fields which aren't as brain-cracking and that's perfectly fine. What isn't is being disrespectful to others without knowing what they've gone through.
@@syntax2004 I owned my own business for a while. Frustration, Anxiety, little to no pay (a starting business is a money hole) and extremely long hours (I AVERAGED 80 hours a week)
Things are gotten easier in my area, could be that I am also older, more experienced and also have 2 degree, one is a university certificate and one is a trade skill in electronics.
Sure it has changed.Corporate H.R now has A.I software that filters through the resume A.I wrote for it. Turns out it thinks I was an excellent candidate choice.
I started working straight out of highschool. My school told me to go to college. My dad tried to talk me into going to college. I'm so glad I ignored them. Debt free is stress free. Got a great job and living peacefully.
@@user-tz5uq2bt1s what type of job are you? A car mechanic? A plumber? Those are really the only jobs I know that make a lot of money but they don’t require a college education
Incorrect. I paid my student loan off at just turned 30 and make 100k pound a year before commission. Only people that stay in the same job moving up with that company or switching to a company with a better pay and job title stay wage cucks.
i know. but. look at reality. the corrupt government and companies are the main problem. not really the education itself. I know not all the times it happened. sometimes. when you get finished college degree whether you are in business, accountancy, engineering course , any related to biology and medicine. and you work successfully. after that of course you have pay school debt. if you exactly get what you expect. But even if you finished one of these courses and have a job. if your company would only pay you minimum, or even if you work on government and you also got pay minimum. due to corruptions. nothing will happened. you really need to do is to have business and job at the same time. but sometimes. i would rather choose a school that. you have to pay for tuition fees. at least somehow when you got finished on college. your only problem is to have job and if you got minimum wage salary. at least somehow you will pay nothing.
@@hyperknuckles2258 That is totally f***ed!! I’d feel like telling them to take their “wage waddle” & shove it up their **s! (But realistically would probably suck it up & waddle with the best of them to keep my job.)
The more that companies try to "lift spirits" with something like a fitness room, pies, candy, spaghetti thursdays, dances... and god forbid masked parties... The more it's shite. They will do anything other than a healthy work culture and a good salary, especially combined.
It's crazy how as a felon with no college degree I have an easier time finding a job than people with degrees. I was stocking shelves at Target alongside coworkers who had Master's Degrees. I got my CDL and learned how to drive a forklift, I'm now making $34 an hour
It's not that crazy when you realize just having a degree doesn't really mean anything. What's important is having a degree specifically in a field that is in high demand. Too many people buy into that "follow your dreams" crap and end up wasting their time at college getting degrees in fields that no employers are looking for. You, with your CDL and forklift certification, are much more employable than someone who spent four years studying 18th century French literature or some crap like that.
No idea why jobs are designed to be so hard to apply for. Applying for loans are 100 times easier, and that is with the bank taking on risk of borrowers defaulting on debt.
I'm glad not only Software Development jobs have to deal with the bullshit of "Junior/Entry-level job that requires senior-level experience". Honestly, the people that write job requirements need to be held legally liable for their bullshit
me as a electrical engineer, looked through so many job offers last year and like 90% say at least 1 year work experience, alot even 3 years. and now i got a job where a person with experience is needed, but they found nobody with experience and the situation was dire for them to get one.
You’re supposed to ignore all requirements and just apply anyways Even if you don’t have a degree All you need is the skills Learn them and apply for any job you want
As a career monkey, can confirm. A few things: 1) I love that everybody is Wojak. Feels like a nice touch about feeling like a drone. 2) It's my job as a hiring manager to get the best people at the lowest wage. Even whilst not recruiting, I have a yearly budget, and I pick who gets more money to some degree based on where it is most needed. If you are happy with your salary and don't show growth / ask for more, that's one less mouth to feed, so to speak. 3) When you're asked what your expectations are, you should have some idea based on location / industry / job title / etc. I have in the past accepted lowball offers too, but you need to learn quickly as salary growth compounds. I like to say, "depends on the job requirements", because if you're not happy with the role / offer, they can be things you can offer to include to bridge gaps. If they are still reluctant, "I'm really convinced I'm worth x, and although I'd be happy to accept x -5% to start, once I pass my probation, can we agree on x" (get it written, obvs). Know your worth. Don't let me / hiring / HR / your manager take advantage of you, because we will.
Does this work in Reality or is this some multiverse where HR or whatever it is preffered, suggested, mentioned; Actually does the recruiting? Also is this the 70s, 80s you talk about when there was economic boom and labour was demand based on the skill? I read a book called "Beauty Pays" which beautiful people will get jobs easier. Not to mention I even had an experience in a job hunt, walk-ins where i was with this W@hmen. My Resume was much much, far better clean, to the point and no fluff ( just as youHR would always suggest but somehow still overlook) than this W@hmen, after the interviews were done. The next day W@hmen calls me and said she got the job mind you her Resume had no effort and no achievements were stated and long paragraphs were written, she told me to make a new Resume. I asked her why what's wrong with hers and here is where I got my first sense of the real truth and not some BS HR would say; She told me they dint care about her resume but they asked to make a new resume and fabricate some false experience. Mind you she already lied in her original resume. At this point I wanted to see how it goes, I cleaned the CV used bullet points fabricated so much so that even the fake company name was a generic one which you can google, the fabricared experience was so overblown like as if she discovered gravity or was the CEO of google. So much fluff, so much false responsibility. Guess what, she got the job and a higher pay than advertised. She was sooooo happy. So take your HR advice and shov it right where Bogdanoff Dumps it.
May be genuine advice or just another shitty on lurking around, other than that. Thanks for telling us young'ins how to deal with the work environment.
I just got my Engineering degree recently did some interviews and a few offers. I got lucky I was able to leverage one of my offers in an interview to get a salary increase by a decent margin for a company I wanted to work for. However, I get that feeling of almost desperation looking to land that first job that your willing to take a low salary. I was definitely feeling that because the difficulty of getting an entry level engineering position. Its a difficult, difficult process.
Just had this happen to me. Get you salary increase after probation written on paper. My manager fucked me for around 15%. But its ok, its very easy for me to switch a job in my industry. Lesson learned. Wish i read this 4 months ago :)
When they ask you salary always tell them what people your age is normally paid and make it slightly above that. That way they don't see you as desperate and try to take advantage of you!
@@hugomikhailov3933 I completely agree. I'd also add things like location can matter hugely too (big difference between London and Middlesbrough), experience / qualifications for certain roles can make a huge jump too (newly qualified project managers, accountants and actuaries, as examples). I generally agree though, an average for your age is a bit broad.
Is crazy because I had said it a little bit above because of my years of experience and they whine that oh this position we are paying for this xx hour im like ok well nice to meet you and thanks for the opportunity and I have to walk away from that, a lot of companies are taking advantage of people and then they cry why their company has no employees
god damn im so happy/lucky ive never had to any real job hunting in my life. that shit legit sucks, had a friend go through 8 interviews at apple where she had to take time off for each one, just to be told after 2 months they were on a hiring freeze.
what the hell are u doing if u never had to look for a job?? mommy and daddy spoiling u for money and giving you a business?? or are u just too young for a job
@@heyjeySigma lol good lord my guy you have some built up anger you need to do something with. What I meant is Job hunting in the sense of having to put in 50+ applications and go through dozens of interviews to get a job. Like sheesh that was a very hostile thing to immediately jump to with no context whatsoever 😂
So how did you get the job? Recommendation? Or you had a lucky shot and got hired early? Or you live in an actual functioning country (in that case I want to know where you live)?
i was literally in the same position when starting off to find some software engineering jobs after i graduated from college (undergraduate). it was a nightmare and i applied to over 300+ companies throughout the years to varying position (from intern to fulltime). luck is still with me and i finally landed a fulltime software engineer job, but dear god was it a nightmarish process.. being mediocre sure has it's consequence.
Seasons Security engineer here. Hire fresh college grads. We’ll pay you terribly, but we’ll train and teach you everything. In a year or two if you’ve caught on, you’ll be promoted or quit and take everything you learned to get a better job.
This was literally part of life. A friend eventually got me into a tech job. Taking the risk jumping from a standard job to a job i really like was, it the best career choice I ever did.
As someone with a masters degree and had no “X years of professional experience” in his field after applying and applying and previously had a crappy job, this still hits hard. Fortunately, I began working on a job relevant to my field 9 months ago that will help me with my career development.
Reminds me of what a Service Manager said once: “One of my jobs is to pay the candidate as little as possible, while extracting as much productivity as I can” This holds some valuable lessons: - Know what the job market is for that position and for your experience. - Follow up with the other places so that you have the potential to increase your options as far as an employer goes. - Always continue to build your skill and increase your value. - If you have limited choice and have to take the poor paying position, take it until you find something better and use them as a stepping stone
I felt this hard. I have a bachelor's degree, when I couldn't get a job after graduation, I've done a bunch of gigs, freelance and contract short term work just to boost my resume. I've done lots of internships at University too. Now I'm trying again with the job application process and hoping for the best.
@@Ferdii-sj6bl Sure, here's an update. I finally got my first job in a studio, I got the position because my college professor recommended me to a studio. Doing good so far 👍
Just a heads up, from my experience it's often HR that don't communicate properly with the other departments and start making stuff up or straight up copy paste from similar positions in other companies. If you see an entry level position with 3+ years experience, apply anyways.
This all happened to me. Graduated with a bachelor’s in business administration. Got hired by a mortgage company that paid me $12/hour(I live in Miami)… Got laid of after 6 months and they closed soon after that. Now I work in a grocery store, that pays more money than a mortgage company for some reason. Why the hell I even got that diploma…
Join the military as an officer 🤷🏼♂️ You get good pay plus experience, and veterans usually get hiring preference because companies get tax credits for hiring vets 😉
i've changed my profession and had to work 3 months for minimum wage. after that they started to pay me a little bit more. when i learned everything I needed I immediately quit ! and start my own business.
I don't get paid a huge amount but this makes me realise how much I appreciate my job. I'm a photographer and I'm always late, but I always do a good job so somehow I get away with it, and knowing how some companies treat their staff for lateness even by a minute that seems priceless. My advice is don't apply for big corporate companies, try to find something local that's more in touch with reality and help it grow, or try to start something yourself, you will be more valued. Know your worth when bargaining a wage, never accept the first offer. Use figures and estimations to back up the reasons why you deserve a higher wage and how it will benefit them. All parties just want value for their time or money. You trade your productivity for more money. If you feel you deserve twice as much, work half as hard.
My experience was complete opposite to this. After my stint with a big local media company, I joined a small e-commerce kitchenware startup for a hike and it was a nightmare where a lot of abusive behaviour was normalised in the form of startup culture. Had to leave it in 2 months just because of how toxic it turned out. Now at a huge book publishing corporation and no one here gives a slight fuck when I come in or go, as long as I get my job done. The startup job felt like the owner had his hawk eyes on you. The impersonalisation at big corporates allows me to focus on my work which isn't the case with startups. Startups and even small business too, want a unicorn at peanut wages. Sure, there's growth and I can see from where you are coming from where you might say, that the startup grind is going to take you places, but no. That's just a utopian dream most of them show. These businesses tend to not last very long. I'd rather be employee number 150000 at some company rather than being micro managed by a startup CEO who thinks I should make his startup my whole priority for which I am being paid shit wages.
@@interestingvideosmail5033 Not to mention the intense pressure you get from the owner to get everything done yesterday. And good luck being able to take a vacation under those circumstances.
So true, even for myself I got a Masters at a good uni and eventually got a decent grad job as an Electronics Engineer designing sensors and displays. Meanwhile, my mate makes 50% more than me whilst paying no tax doing Gardening and odd jobs paying no rent. I'm happy for him but the grind for a "good job" and good education doesn't seem worth it and it's a slap in the face even when you do everything right in the right field, schools and etc. In fact,t uni/college students are probably worse off than a NEET because you also waste 3 to 4 except for the NEET also has no job but no debts and you do.
The greatest scam in American history is insurance, you constantly pay for something you may only need once or never at all. The second is college, people occur an egregious amount of debt for a field you may never get a job in.
Are you factoring in benefits? Your mate probably isn’t getting a 401k or some sort of retirement fund or good health insurance. Not to mention odd jobs aren’t exactly a stable source of income. Your position as an electric engineer is way more stable.
So step out of your comfort zone, forget that paid for degree for a moment, and go get a job landscaping, construction, driving, delivery, painting, anything that's making you enough money to support the life you want to live. We work jobs for 2 reaosns, we need money to support our hobbies, nessecities and families (if we have them), and becasue even if it's something we don't like or think we're too good for, it's just 8 hours a day 5 days a week so we can be comfortable and survive. That's not too bad. Or go to trade school, that'll get you to the money if you stick it out.
I graduated from a top 20 business school with an 8th percentile GPA and I can’t even get a call back from the lowest “entry level” jobs. Now I’m a depressed stoner who’s going to run himself into the ground until I call it a night.
yea the feeling is shared with lots of people bro. But don't blame yourself. This is our society, not you. You accomplished something on a personal level and for that you can be proud of yourself. Focus on what you can control!
Was it your choice to graduate at that school or not? If it is I really feel bad for you If not and you were forced to do it by society or parents then you will be depressed even if you got that job, so it's better to follow your actual favourite jobs or live in a humble life.
I was like that on LinkedIn and fresh out of college. 3 years of experience for an entry level engineering job lmao thankfully one of the homies hooked it up with a manufacturing engineer position and it open the flood gates for more possibilities!
This makes me so happy I don't have student debt, and instead have a little savings. Were I to lose my current job, I could take up to a couple months to properly look for something that would be an upgrade from it. For many others though, I wish the government didn't stupidly declare college education as a "human right" 50 years ago, as that's what caused college tuition to shoot through the roof. If young adults weren't able to borrow 100k, college wouldn't cost 100k. But because of the government, they can. Let that sink in.
Seems like a US problem. I just talked to my cousin's gf, she's like 20, and her debt was 25k for an undergrad. That's $CAD. And she lived on res. I paid 15k for my undergrad 13 years ago (no res life for me) so it seems like it's still in step following inflation.
I'm lucky to have gotten a great job offer before I graduated college. They lowballed the hell out of me but I negotiated them higher, and I was told by my prof that the offer I got is the highest paying in my college program's history. Don't be afraid to negotiate, the money is worth more to you than it is to them.
@@BlackoutGootraxianthat's not the issue but it's like saying we will do whatever for menial amount of money and that they are ok with this or actually think this is a good thing either way it's depressing
Always remember not to compare your job to others its about skill development and passion wether its all about cleaning toilets to building a software we have different talents college degree is nothing more than a mere paper it will not guarantee your future NEVER stop learning new things.
Same shit happened to me. Didn't have student loan but I did had 2 degrees, bilingual and a war veteran. +300 applications later I received an offering as an accountant assistant. (PART TIME, NO BENEFITS, MINIMUM WAGE) 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
5:03 "Happiness at work" should be fighted and destroyed. 10 - 20 years ago people worked for the pay and the promotions. But they created "happiness at work", people humiliate themselves and because they are "happy" the companies doesn't need to give as much money as before. Hypocrisy increased. I say it again : refuse "happiness at work". They want your soul and make you a smiling slave at minimal wage.
I got a degree in a field that actually exists, got crap pay for the first year then bounced for the next four years until I landed at a place that actually appreciates me. I also started out at a community college and worked while in school. No debt. Sorry to all the people that fell for these college loans backed by the government. That was predatory.
A wise Chinese woman once told me. "our children need to be outstanding because there is just too much competition in the world of work" I guess I know what she meant
Awww man, I remember my first job, I pretty much fucked up my interview like Wojak did when I was asked about my salary expectations. I said that whatever the pay for this average job and I accepted it, got promoted 6 months afterwards but my pay increase was 15%. After one year and one month, I found out I was being paid 40% less the market, asked for a raise, it was denied, quit the next week and got a decent job afterwards....
Lol this is literally me, as a recent graduate in engineering. Most companies want me to have experience, but how am I supposed to have experience if no one hire me in the first place ?
It’s a system designed to put you in a psychological tailspin. You study at college, get into debt, can’t get a job with the degree, you study something else, get into more debt, can’t get a job with that degree, and so on and so forth. It’s all planned. Companies often don’t write their own requirements for job positions, it’s usually outsourced, to whom I wonder. The same companies that own the colleges perhaps? 😂
I remember that job search bs like it was yesterday even if it was over a decade ago. So many companies asking for at least 2 years xp for a starter position. The moment i got those years under my belt I was getting pestered by recruiters non stop.
It should be mandatory for colleges to have contracts with different companies and to give you three job offers from them. If they can't offer you any guarantee after you graduate, they should give you your money back plus some extra money for wasting years of your life with them.
In the summer of last year, I sent in about 200 applications. It took me five months to find an ok job. And when I finished undergrad, it took me 6 months to find a job making $25K a year….lol The job searching process is soul-crushing.
My first job was working across the street from High School at a MOBIL mart. My manager was STEALING. She was even plotting to having the store robbed. When new beers 🍺 came out, we’d taste test them on the job.
I actually got an entry level job in sales 2 months ago, the pay is surprisingly good and the people are really nice. The only con is the unrealistic targets, but most people dont care about them that much anyway, or so they tell me.
@@FinalMythology All via phone and emails, outbound. The only issue I have with this job is the fact that people dont pick up and its starting to irritate me, but Ill push through it since the team and the pay are pretty good.
It's a struggle. I found I would apply to everything I saw online, never even got a callback from 95% of them. Until I said fk it and just went around handing out resumes to all sorts of places. Got the majority of my jobs now from doing that. Never apply online unless you have every single requirement met
I feel so sad watching this video, probably because it is true to the core about what it means to be a fresh grad, with -100k, and no prospect of success beyond those big folder stacks on a dumpster job
Graduated from a small uni in a 3rd world country, so I'm already at a disadvantage when I started looking for a job. I was lucky enough to find one, stayed there for 5yrs. Now I'm a job hopper and able to haggle may salary
1:24, yes i hate this, i am looking for a part time job and i read everytime the nastiest line you can imagine: 'we need people with 1 year of house cleaning experience' i am like, how the fuck?
To me it was an obvious scam. “everyone is doing it.” Well, if everyone does it, then what makes you worth anything to a future employer if they have an entire ocean of faces who studied the same thing as you to choose from? A scarce individual is one who makes it. Someone with a solution to problems others can’t do. Or a person who creates a unique service or product.
@@rainshii5045 multiple revenue streams but my “day job” is in the energy sector. I’m not totally against universities for accredited professionals like doctors, lawyers and engineers but the majority of college kids don’t know what they want to major in and or pick obscure things that have no demand in the real world and then they whine when they get out and have no work. It’s like dude, you just got a basic degree in business or some other liberal arts degree. Nothing about you is unique or can contribute to a company that 300 other candidates can’t offer. Or they major in something worse that’s really off the wall, underwater basket weaving or gender studies.(joke) But, some of these college students pick blows my mind…My buddy got some generic degree and now works in real estate but his degree was never needed. Now he’s in debt and is a wage cuck. I feel sorry for him. And I tried to warn him before he went. I was like is there anything specific you want to major in or specific career path you want to take? Him- “I’ll figure it out when I get there, chill, I have a couple years to figure out.” Guy just wanted the university experience. Now he’s in debt and I own my house free n clear with steady streams of revenue. I’m hoping young people learn from his mistake and what this video is saying. College is a grift for the majority. Unless you’re studying a niche thing that is in demand and are especially talented above the rest about it, or you’re becoming a doctor. Stay away. Better to learn a trade, often times those guys even make more and the training is much cheaper.
@@Linkskyfyre That is why I didnt not leave for the good colleges in the US. Harvard Stanford I give a shit if have to pay so much money. I stayed in europe and could study for much less ( all combined living costs in a foreign city) while still studying at a top university (top50 overall). Turns out: I am still going to do a start-up😂😂 But yes college in the US is not worth it. There I would choose to go through the entrpreneurial path or do a hands on job like carpenter or something like that and start my own biz.
When I lost my job in 2020 I had to apply for 300 positions before I found another one. It was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to go through because the rejections can really affect your confidence. Just keep trying, thats all I can say. Keep trying and you will find something that works. It can get incredibly discouraging but you have to stay positive and just stay at it.
I worked while in college serving tables (had less high interest loans) then got an entry level job in my field. Got promoted, then finished my bs degree. I saved up enough to pay off 80% of my loans the day after I graduated. If the student debt forgiveness passes i can save some savings and put a down payment on a humble starter home. But I’m thinking on living on my own at an apartment for a year or two. I Started college at 23.
Fun fact: If you lie and exaggerate on your resume you might become the CFO or CEO or Head Executive because corporate America favors such psychopathic behavior.
Missed the bit where because nobody is calling back he tries to get an unskilled minimum wage job but they reject him because he is "overqualified" and "clearly not serious about the role". How serious do you need to be to flip burgers and stack shelves.
They always put “x years of experience required” but it’s not really mandatory. Just apply anyway. My IT mentor who makes 6 figures tells me that the experience requirement doesn’t really matter as much as long as you have other things to make up for it like your charisma, skills, qualifications, degree, etc.
Oh my God, in the 1st second of this video, people are standing in front of Chernivtsi National University, it's university in my home city! I'm so glad you decided to choose exactly this photo for your video :)
Honestly, joining the military was the best choice I made in life. 5 years of experience and debt free out of the gate. Plenty of jobs out there that translate very well into the civilian world. I am an air traffic control specialist, after my 5 years of active duty, my first job paid $100k once I finished all of my qualifications which only took about 6 months.
I dont see how the US will be able maintain a highly educated workforce and compete with the other countries economically if college tuitions keeps balloning to absurd levels. Does the US goverment really dont see a problem here? Goverment backed loans and grants to colleges will only make them raise their tuitions. Maybe federal or state run colleges should be a bigger thing in US?
no they benefit from it, colleges and academic types come up with the policies in the first place why would they want a system that caps their own paychecks? student loans means unlimited money for them and their friends
Jobs websites should have a rating system and comments section for all their advertised jobs. That’d quickly let the recruiting companies know what’s ok and what isn’t.
You can try to skirt the question with a broad answer, such as, “My salary expectations are in line with my experience and qualifications.” Or, “If this is the right job for me, I'm sure we can come to an agreement on salary.” This will show that you're willing to negotiate.
This makes me glad I didn't pursue collage/university right after high school. My senior classmate gave me the advice to do a job first to save up for collage/university. Sometimes I feel like i'm missing out on university life but the fact I don't have debt is reassuring.
Is because they expect from you to be an intern for almost a year then spend 2 years as an employee in the same company for almost no salary promotion. Then when you are looking for a new job at an entry level they will be sure you have some knowledge in the field and won't quit the job even when is stressful and don't they have to pay you like a senior because you are still 23 or 25. Then after 5 to 10 years working in the same company they will begin to considering you for a manager position.
Yep, never think about ask your salary in the interview or something like that. Ask for a good price and put a limit in the floor, make your self worth or they will abuse you
I got a lawfirm job right outta highschool. Connections. Connections land you jobs. But not good ones. I got screwed over bad. I got knowledge from the place though. But I felt stuck. I also realized white collar jobs arent for me. And i jumped into a blue collar maintenance gig for almost double the money.
10 commandments for you zoomers when you start your first interview(s) post grad: 1. If you scored an interview, they want you, so you have bargaining power 2. If they say, 'We are like family" - run 3. If they say, "You will not get rich here." - run 4. If the most recent hire has been there for 5+ years - run 5. If the grand majority of employees have been there for 10+ years - run 6. If the online job description does not match with what the manager is saying during the interview - run 7. If they ask, "where do you see yourself in 5 years?", what they're really asking is, "are you willing to do the same thing for 5 years and be happy? if not then leave." 8. Make sure that if you make a deal with the hiring manager that you either get a verbal or written agreement depending on the situation, "e.g. You have to take care of your children and are required to leave at 3 P.M. everyday, make sure you get that in writing." 9. Make sure you know how to get in touch with human resources when sh*t inevitably hits the wall 10. If you are allowed a tour of the workplace, only talk to grunt workers. Supervisors and other managers will lie through their teeth to get you to sign on Even if you are in absolute dire straights, please consider these commandments because there is no point in taking the job then quitting 2-3 months later and having to explain it to the next interviewer
About #3 and #4, I would not suggest to run but to check how the hiring company gets jobs done. For instance, how junior can evolve in this company? Are they stuck because of the manager etc. Anyway, if people are treated nicely, a junior position gets you the necessary experience at the end to apply to a better position somewhere else. Anyway, nice commandment checklist!
My only thing is that you don’t need to add the 2-3 months of work experience from the last job you quit onto the resume. It’s not like they have a way to find out (I guess they could look up your name in a system or ask around with people from other companies but they have so many people that they physically can’t keep track about every little detail)
Boomers: "It's so easy to get an entry-level living wage job right after graduating college". Also boomers: *Wants you to have 10 years of experience, a master's degree, and be a member of the X-Men for at least 5 years. Pay is 35k a year*.
That's it guys. Work hard, study hard and than dump it immediately.
The USA really have lots of problems with jobs and student debt. Luckily here in Europe we don't have these problems, or at least they're less present
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@@whitezombie10 so you never heard about the Latin America, specially for Brazil, In other countries is a common sense you finish te school and go to the university, here only the richer people can afford studying after the 18
@@whitezombie10 are you sure about that? But the US always had this policy it’s only during the Great Depression america had government involvement but america always was a policy that people need to learn how to look after them selves and not baby off the government
@@xplicitgoofy1015
Therefore, the USA full of homeless. No thanks, I stay in Germany. I got my college almost for free and no debt.
I have never seen so much homelessness like in New York. I have been there.
Job title: junior engineer
Job requirements: 10 yrs of experience. PhD in mechanical engineering.
😂😂😂😂
The System wants slaves
that will change soon , tons of people are dying right now or getting seriously ill .. in a few years you can decide which company you work for and theyll pay you a great wage
😢😂 true
Literally saw that a few days ago. Junior Data Analyst = Msc or PhD and 5+ years of experience of programming
"Everyone starts from zero" No Wojak, u start from -100k
Also lost 4 or more years of his life
🚫🧢
Bruh.... It's sooo true
In my country India I started from zero.
Bull shit. Wojak starts 100k down, the guy that gets the job starts from his dad or uncle’s recommendation. They need to stop telling working class kids a 50k plus loan and hard work puts them on the same footing as the kid that fucks off on European vacations but has parents as partners in the company.
We as a society need to create a major stigma against requiring prior formal experience for entry level jobs
Anything that's entry level or junior shouldn't have any years experience with ofc some basic requirements and major.
But whats absurd about company nowadays is them expecting us to work ourselves to death hitting goal and having a decade years old experience.
In my experience, it doesn't really mean anything. They write this to filter out the lazy-asses without drive, applying for the job. If you are the right man for the job, even without experience, they will hire you. So don't be scared by it and apply anyway.
It would be a great start to just start valuing ourselves better tbh
@@vitman2409 they do it so they can not hire any domestically qualified people, and complain to the government to increase h1b's actually
Yeah good luck with that when society cares more about feminism and genders.
Unemployed: "i wanna cry"
Employee: "i wanna die"
you all are so negative and me as a young dude i am literally afraid to work because thru my entire life I have been told: A JOB IS SHIT
@@FireJach because it is.. you feel like you life isn't yours anymore, you are a slave in exchange of some money..
@@FireJach no jobs a turnt just bring a bottle better to be a doomer at work and happy outside of it dont be afraid to smoke weed instead of drinking but thats what i recomend i just meditate at work and put on a smile makes it much better dont forget jogs on my lunch break
@@FireJach because they are
@@FireJach It's better to find a job that pays "just ok" but you really enjoy and forget about time, than it is to get a job that pays twice that but you feel miserable and look at your wrist watch every ten minutes to see how long until lunch or you get to go home. There's no point in wasting your life chasing the dollar just to impress your hollow "friends" yet feel miserable all the time.
When the Boomer calls your new workplace a family, run
Ahahahahgahaahaahahhahaahha 100%
Just had someone hired in my work place and one of the boomers did this. It’s definitely not a good look
It happens to me and I couldn't agree more.
@@tonyh1345 Why tho. It might just mean that they take extra care for each other.
@@AgentSmith911 But they don't
I once saw a job offer which was asking for 8+ years of experience in a programming language, which only existed for 5 years. I'm not joking.
XDDD OMG
These days, it's 5-10 years "data science" everywhere... Even though nobody heard that term 10 years ago.
my father works in tech and he sees this all the time
That was a test whoever noticed that gets the job
@@MitchelPie 😂😂
Biggest red flag ever is "We are family here".
Boomer welcoming wojak to the family immediately after deciding to lowball him is absolute gold lmao
My last job was like that, I wanted to vomit every time someone said those words.
I’ve had good jobs and bad jobs (currently in a good job). All the bad jobs have one thing in common: you’re a part of the “family”
All the same in the world, really😂
At least he managed to get a job. Some of us don't even get a call back after applying and are forced to work minimum wage, low-skilled jobs with extremely high turnover rates to survive.
…………………..
Yes it happens to dumb people. I am dumb but i feel I should be able to work more then a year at job
@@sadhu7191 you deserve to have the right eat soy and be furnished by work people or your parents who inflation is eating alive and now they will never get a chance to enjoy because they have to take care of an adult that blames everything except themselves
@@markstewart6069 I was in special Ed in high school. I still get there and their mixed up but I can play go board game and grow cannabis and mushrooms.
@Nope Leave Me Alone Some people have no choice. Not everyone has their brain wired a certain way or access to education. You sound like someone who is talking down on others from a privileged position or that is genetically gifted (or not genetically disadvantaged). We're not all the same. Some people are better in other fields which aren't as brain-cracking and that's perfectly fine. What isn't is being disrespectful to others without knowing what they've gone through.
Unemployed: Anxiety & Frustration
Employed: Frustration & Anxiety
When you work at corporate.....
@@syntax2004 I owned my own business for a while. Frustration, Anxiety, little to no pay (a starting business is a money hole) and extremely long hours (I AVERAGED 80 hours a week)
Find a counsellor
@@Squidbush8563What business may I ask? 😅
lower your ego.
NOTHING changed in the last 20 years with this job hunting BS.
Things are gotten easier in my area, could be that I am also older, more experienced and also have 2 degree, one is a university certificate and one is a trade skill in electronics.
Make that 30 years.
So yea, it hasn't changed in at least 20 years
ATS
Sure it has changed.Corporate H.R now has A.I software that filters through the resume A.I wrote for it. Turns out it thinks I was an excellent candidate choice.
I started working straight out of highschool. My school told me to go to college. My dad tried to talk me into going to college. I'm so glad I ignored them. Debt free is stress free. Got a great job and living peacefully.
U got savings?
@@jonovodss Yeah just over 65k in my account.
@@user-tz5uq2bt1s what type of job are you? A car mechanic? A plumber? Those are really the only jobs I know that make a lot of money but they don’t require a college education
I went to college and biden forgave all of my student loans, wojak
@@xplicitgoofy1015 I work on communications equipment on vessels. Ie radios, satellite communications, etc.
5;04 I worked at walmart and that stupid walmart cheer still haunts my dreams, so humiliating and degrading
wait so that cringey walmart dance isnt just a rare thing?? many walmarts require it?
@@heyjeySigma maybe not that complicated but they probably do something
Would you be reprimanded for not participating? I really don't think I could bring myself to do it.
@@chrischickering1959 oh yeah and the morning shift had to do it in front of the customers
@@hyperknuckles2258 so degrading wtf 😐
sometimes. we shouldn't fall for the words study now. pay later. otherwise you'll literally turn into wage slave. just to pay your school debt.
Incorrect. I paid my student loan off at just turned 30 and make 100k pound a year before commission. Only people that stay in the same job moving up with that company or switching to a company with a better pay and job title stay wage cucks.
Or you get a really cool Job that you like
I mean if you study to be an engineer you’ll do just fine with student debt not everyone goes to college for liberal arts
i know. but. look at reality. the corrupt government and companies are the main problem. not really the education itself. I know not all the times it happened. sometimes. when you get finished college degree whether you are in business, accountancy, engineering course , any related to biology and medicine. and you work successfully. after that of course you have pay school debt. if you exactly get what you expect. But even if you finished one of these courses and have a job. if your company would only pay you minimum, or even if you work on government and you also got pay minimum. due to corruptions. nothing will happened. you really need to do is to have business and job at the same time.
but sometimes. i would rather choose a school that. you have to pay for tuition fees. at least somehow when you got finished on college. your only problem is to have job and if you got minimum wage salary. at least somehow you will pay nothing.
This was the plan for you the whole time
The wagie waggle was just sad...those poor, poor employees...
That's Walmart for you bro. When I worked there we had to do it after meetings.
@@hyperknuckles2258 That is totally f***ed!! I’d feel like telling them to take their “wage waddle” & shove it up their **s! (But realistically would probably suck it up & waddle with the best of them to keep my job.)
@@hyperknuckles2258 can you refuse it? There is no way I'd do it
@@SF-eo6xf Cuck for walmart
The more that companies try to "lift spirits" with something like a fitness room, pies, candy, spaghetti thursdays, dances... and god forbid masked parties... The more it's shite. They will do anything other than a healthy work culture and a good salary, especially combined.
It's crazy how as a felon with no college degree I have an easier time finding a job than people with degrees. I was stocking shelves at Target alongside coworkers who had Master's Degrees. I got my CDL and learned how to drive a forklift, I'm now making $34 an hour
It's not that crazy when you realize just having a degree doesn't really mean anything. What's important is having a degree specifically in a field that is in high demand. Too many people buy into that "follow your dreams" crap and end up wasting their time at college getting degrees in fields that no employers are looking for.
You, with your CDL and forklift certification, are much more employable than someone who spent four years studying 18th century French literature or some crap like that.
Probably because you're actually willing to work like a man. People who can't find jobs realistically just have social problems.
$34 an hour driving forklift trucks and didn’t need to go to college. Thats crazy. Congratulations
@@Commodore22345Now this is straight facts
@@Commodore22345me:
literally studying medieval french and Latin literature right now
How the hell can you gain experience if nobody gives you the job to gain experience!!!!? Some employers act like we come out the womb with experience.
Reddit Karma gaining logic as well. The reality is "just get lucky bro"
Man, I'm currently going through he application phase. This helps so much...
good luck getting a job, WoJay
@@heyjeySigma thanks wojey
Lol same here
No idea why jobs are designed to be so hard to apply for. Applying for loans are 100 times easier, and that is with the bank taking on risk of borrowers defaulting on debt.
Good luck bro , im sure you will be a good wagecuck.
I'm glad not only Software Development jobs have to deal with the bullshit of "Junior/Entry-level job that requires senior-level experience".
Honestly, the people that write job requirements need to be held legally liable for their bullshit
It's mostly to scare off not skilled people. Those who are confident with their skills will apply anyway
Find a contracting company to go through.
me as a electrical engineer, looked through so many job offers last year and like 90% say at least 1 year work experience, alot even 3 years. and now i got a job where a person with experience is needed, but they found nobody with experience and the situation was dire for them to get one.
@@christian9125abd good as it being flawed it should fail
Just lie on your resume like everyone else. If employers can put bullshit requirements, you put bullshit experience.
You’re supposed to ignore all requirements and just apply anyways
Even if you don’t have a degree
All you need is the skills
Learn them and apply for any job you want
Only if you're a woman. Guys have to meet 100% of the requirements and not be selected
I've done that with a degree and it never worked
@@GhostofTradition Meaning you couldn’t learn the skills?
Damn fasho. Many times I didn’t apply bc this or that.
That doesn't work for most people. I'd really recommend people not do that
As a career monkey, can confirm. A few things:
1) I love that everybody is Wojak. Feels like a nice touch about feeling like a drone.
2) It's my job as a hiring manager to get the best people at the lowest wage. Even whilst not recruiting, I have a yearly budget, and I pick who gets more money to some degree based on where it is most needed. If you are happy with your salary and don't show growth / ask for more, that's one less mouth to feed, so to speak.
3) When you're asked what your expectations are, you should have some idea based on location / industry / job title / etc. I have in the past accepted lowball offers too, but you need to learn quickly as salary growth compounds. I like to say, "depends on the job requirements", because if you're not happy with the role / offer, they can be things you can offer to include to bridge gaps. If they are still reluctant, "I'm really convinced I'm worth x, and although I'd be happy to accept x -5% to start, once I pass my probation, can we agree on x" (get it written, obvs). Know your worth. Don't let me / hiring / HR / your manager take advantage of you, because we will.
Does this work in Reality or is this some multiverse where HR or whatever it is preffered, suggested, mentioned; Actually does the recruiting?
Also is this the 70s, 80s you talk about when there was economic boom and labour was demand based on the skill?
I read a book called "Beauty Pays" which beautiful people will get jobs easier.
Not to mention I even had an experience in a job hunt, walk-ins where i was with this W@hmen. My Resume was much much, far better clean, to the point and no fluff ( just as youHR would always suggest but somehow still overlook) than this W@hmen, after the interviews were done. The next day W@hmen calls me and said she got the job mind you her Resume had no effort and no achievements were stated and long paragraphs were written, she told me to make a new Resume. I asked her why what's wrong with hers and here is where I got my first sense of the real truth and not some BS HR would say; She told me they dint care about her resume but they asked to make a new resume and fabricate some false experience. Mind you she already lied in her original resume.
At this point I wanted to see how it goes, I cleaned the CV used bullet points fabricated so much so that even the fake company name was a generic one which you can google, the fabricared experience was so overblown like as if she discovered gravity or was the CEO of google. So much fluff, so much false responsibility.
Guess what, she got the job and a higher pay than advertised. She was sooooo happy.
So take your HR advice and shov it right where Bogdanoff Dumps it.
May be genuine advice or just another shitty on lurking around, other than that. Thanks for telling us young'ins how to deal with the work environment.
I just got my Engineering degree recently did some interviews and a few offers. I got lucky I was able to leverage one of my offers in an interview to get a salary increase by a decent margin for a company I wanted to work for. However, I get that feeling of almost desperation looking to land that first job that your willing to take a low salary. I was definitely feeling that because the difficulty of getting an entry level engineering position. Its a difficult, difficult process.
Just had this happen to me. Get you salary increase after probation written on paper. My manager fucked me for around 15%. But its ok, its very easy for me to switch a job in my industry. Lesson learned. Wish i read this 4 months ago :)
#3 First sentence noted. Thanks brah.
When they ask you salary always tell them what people your age is normally paid and make it slightly above that. That way they don't see you as desperate and try to take advantage of you!
It should be dependant more on what the average salary for the position you are applying to, rather than average pay for everyone your age
@@hugomikhailov3933 I completely agree. I'd also add things like location can matter hugely too (big difference between London and Middlesbrough), experience / qualifications for certain roles can make a huge jump too (newly qualified project managers, accountants and actuaries, as examples).
I generally agree though, an average for your age is a bit broad.
The demand of personel is a big factor. If a lot of skilled people are applying you have no bargaining power.
@@Stealfos was just thinking this.. lol. Companies only value you based on perceived skill and past experience.
Is crazy because I had said it a little bit above because of my years of experience and they whine that oh this position we are paying for this xx hour im like ok well nice to meet you and thanks for the opportunity and I have to walk away from that, a lot of companies are taking advantage of people and then they cry why their company has no employees
This stories are getting too realistic.
god damn im so happy/lucky ive never had to any real job hunting in my life. that shit legit sucks, had a friend go through 8 interviews at apple where she had to take time off for each one, just to be told after 2 months they were on a hiring freeze.
what do you do for a living?
what the hell are u doing if u never had to look for a job??
mommy and daddy spoiling u for money and giving you a business?? or are u just too young for a job
@@heyjeySigma lol good lord my guy you have some built up anger you need to do something with. What I meant is Job hunting in the sense of having to put in 50+ applications and go through dozens of interviews to get a job.
Like sheesh that was a very hostile thing to immediately jump to with no context whatsoever 😂
@@Joriszx im a production manager for a startup
So how did you get the job? Recommendation? Or you had a lucky shot and got hired early? Or you live in an actual functioning country (in that case I want to know where you live)?
If you are a recent college grad with no aid, it will be hard to pay down the debt. Colleges robs the youth of their financial dreams.
In Most european countrys College education is free and they will even fund your housing
@@Thronsohn nothing is free. You pay through high taxes and lower wages.
@@Thronsohn nothing is free, high taxes
@@thelonercoder5816 Higher taxes for extremely high earners. but keep swallowing the globalist propaganda about European welfare states.
The youth and*
i was literally in the same position when starting off to find some software engineering jobs after i graduated from college (undergraduate). it was a nightmare and i applied to over 300+ companies throughout the years to varying position (from intern to fulltime). luck is still with me and i finally landed a fulltime software engineer job, but dear god was it a nightmarish process.. being mediocre sure has it's consequence.
Health experts recommend that you stand up at your desk, leave the office and never go back.
True bro! That’s what I did 😂
Seasons Security engineer here.
Hire fresh college grads. We’ll pay you terribly, but we’ll train and teach you everything. In a year or two if you’ve caught on, you’ll be promoted or quit and take everything you learned to get a better job.
This is how it's supposed to work
This was literally part of life.
A friend eventually got me into a tech job. Taking the risk jumping from a standard job to a job i really like was, it the best career choice I ever did.
What tech job?
As someone with a masters degree and had no “X years of professional experience” in his field after applying and applying and previously had a crappy job, this still hits hard. Fortunately, I began working on a job relevant to my field 9 months ago that will help me with my career development.
damn never felt as much as a Wojak as when I watched his interview
Poor Wojak he’s always so hopeful and optimistic at the start but the grim reality slowly dawns on him 😞
That's why nearly 100% of anyone on YT watching resonates; they're all EXPERIENCING this right *now*. 😕
Reminds me of what a Service Manager said once:
“One of my jobs is to pay the candidate as little as possible, while extracting as much productivity as I can”
This holds some valuable lessons:
- Know what the job market is for that position and for your experience.
- Follow up with the other places so that you have the potential to increase your options as far as an employer goes.
- Always continue to build your skill and increase your value.
- If you have limited choice and have to take the poor paying position, take it until you find something better and use them as a stepping stone
I felt this hard. I have a bachelor's degree, when I couldn't get a job after graduation, I've done a bunch of gigs, freelance and contract short term work just to boost my resume. I've done lots of internships at University too. Now I'm trying again with the job application process and hoping for the best.
well, how was it
@@nbabasketball7965 fluffing up your resume isn't an issue, but any good HR person is going to see through your bullshit in an interview. Don't lie.
Mannnn listen, I lied on my resume & I got the job. They trained me anyway.
My boy did the same & got the job that he wanted also. Gotta play dirty.
Update ?
@@Ferdii-sj6bl Sure, here's an update. I finally got my first job in a studio, I got the position because my college professor recommended me to a studio. Doing good so far 👍
Just a heads up, from my experience it's often HR that don't communicate properly with the other departments and start making stuff up or straight up copy paste from similar positions in other companies. If you see an entry level position with 3+ years experience, apply anyways.
This all happened to me. Graduated with a bachelor’s in business administration. Got hired by a mortgage company that paid me $12/hour(I live in Miami)…
Got laid of after 6 months and they closed soon after that.
Now I work in a grocery store, that pays more money than a mortgage company for some reason. Why the hell I even got that diploma…
Join the military as an officer 🤷🏼♂️ You get good pay plus experience, and veterans usually get hiring preference because companies get tax credits for hiring vets 😉
@@flanagamer I will do that probably, when I decide to die
@@danielgerich bruh stop being dramatic I worked in aircraft in North Carolina for 4 years in the Marines I didn’t even get close to combat 😅🤷🏼♂️
@@flanagamer Are you the only child in the family? Or you have siblings?
@@danielgerichor join the Air Force, as officer, you probably will be working at your desk forever.
One of my biggest regrets in life was to go to general high school and College. Ambition, sophistication and culture can be gain OUTSIDE school
My regret is college
High school was kind of a waste of time, tangibly. But i gained a lot from it, spiritually. As weird as that sounds
i've changed my profession and had to work 3 months for minimum wage. after that they started to pay me a little bit more. when i learned everything I needed I immediately quit ! and start my own business.
That's what everyone should do
What you do, May I ask 😢
8+ years needed for a junior role 🤣🤣
50 year for senior role
Nest step is heaving a past life job experience
Love your stories. They give me a good time while Im struggling for my thesis :D Thanks bro
What's your thesis about ? Just curious
I don't get paid a huge amount but this makes me realise how much I appreciate my job. I'm a photographer and I'm always late, but I always do a good job so somehow I get away with it, and knowing how some companies treat their staff for lateness even by a minute that seems priceless. My advice is don't apply for big corporate companies, try to find something local that's more in touch with reality and help it grow, or try to start something yourself, you will be more valued. Know your worth when bargaining a wage, never accept the first offer. Use figures and estimations to back up the reasons why you deserve a higher wage and how it will benefit them. All parties just want value for their time or money. You trade your productivity for more money. If you feel you deserve twice as much, work half as hard.
My experience was complete opposite to this. After my stint with a big local media company, I joined a small e-commerce kitchenware startup for a hike and it was a nightmare where a lot of abusive behaviour was normalised in the form of startup culture. Had to leave it in 2 months just because of how toxic it turned out. Now at a huge book publishing corporation and no one here gives a slight fuck when I come in or go, as long as I get my job done. The startup job felt like the owner had his hawk eyes on you. The impersonalisation at big corporates allows me to focus on my work which isn't the case with startups. Startups and even small business too, want a unicorn at peanut wages. Sure, there's growth and I can see from where you are coming from where you might say, that the startup grind is going to take you places, but no. That's just a utopian dream most of them show. These businesses tend to not last very long. I'd rather be employee number 150000 at some company rather than being micro managed by a startup CEO who thinks I should make his startup my whole priority for which I am being paid shit wages.
@@interestingvideosmail5033 Not to mention the intense pressure you get from the owner to get everything done yesterday. And good luck being able to take a vacation under those circumstances.
So true, even for myself I got a Masters at a good uni and eventually got a decent grad job as an Electronics Engineer designing sensors and displays. Meanwhile, my mate makes 50% more than me whilst paying no tax doing Gardening and odd jobs paying no rent. I'm happy for him but the grind for a "good job" and good education doesn't seem worth it and it's a slap in the face even when you do everything right in the right field, schools and etc.
In fact,t uni/college students are probably worse off than a NEET because you also waste 3 to 4 except for the NEET also has no job but no debts and you do.
Here in the Uk you don’t have to pay back the loan at least until you are earning an equivalent of $32000 a year
The greatest scam in American history is insurance, you constantly pay for something you may only need once or never at all. The second is college, people occur an egregious amount of debt for a field you may never get a job in.
@@blueewasabi yea but in the uk the interest starts right when you take the loan out
Are you factoring in benefits? Your mate probably isn’t getting a 401k or some sort of retirement fund or good health insurance. Not to mention odd jobs aren’t exactly a stable source of income. Your position as an electric engineer is way more stable.
So step out of your comfort zone, forget that paid for degree for a moment, and go get a job landscaping, construction, driving, delivery, painting, anything that's making you enough money to support the life you want to live. We work jobs for 2 reaosns, we need money to support our hobbies, nessecities and families (if we have them), and becasue even if it's something we don't like or think we're too good for, it's just 8 hours a day 5 days a week so we can be comfortable and survive. That's not too bad. Or go to trade school, that'll get you to the money if you stick it out.
I graduated from a top 20 business school with an 8th percentile GPA and I can’t even get a call back from the lowest “entry level” jobs. Now I’m a depressed stoner who’s going to run himself into the ground until I call it a night.
yea the feeling is shared with lots of people bro. But don't blame yourself. This is our society, not you. You accomplished something on a personal level and for that you can be proud of yourself. Focus on what you can control!
Stop smoking
Was it your choice to graduate at that school or not?
If it is I really feel bad for you
If not and you were forced to do it by society or parents then you will be depressed even if you got that job, so it's better to follow your actual favourite jobs or live in a humble life.
Any updates?
I was like that on LinkedIn and fresh out of college. 3 years of experience for an entry level engineering job lmao thankfully one of the homies hooked it up with a manufacturing engineer position and it open the flood gates for more possibilities!
This makes me so happy I don't have student debt, and instead have a little savings. Were I to lose my current job, I could take up to a couple months to properly look for something that would be an upgrade from it. For many others though, I wish the government didn't stupidly declare college education as a "human right" 50 years ago, as that's what caused college tuition to shoot through the roof. If young adults weren't able to borrow 100k, college wouldn't cost 100k. But because of the government, they can. Let that sink in.
Seems like a US problem. I just talked to my cousin's gf, she's like 20, and her debt was 25k for an undergrad. That's $CAD. And she lived on res. I paid 15k for my undergrad 13 years ago (no res life for me) so it seems like it's still in step following inflation.
Does college actually cost that much in the US?? At the university I’m applying to in the UK it’s £7,500
@@user-ui7tn1fq2b7.5k? Universities in the UK charge 9.25k for bachelor degrees per year. So total is like 27k.
Lol here in Czech republic education is completely free. High schools, colleges and universities as well. Can't even imagine living in the US.
I'm lucky to have gotten a great job offer before I graduated college. They lowballed the hell out of me but I negotiated them higher, and I was told by my prof that the offer I got is the highest paying in my college program's history. Don't be afraid to negotiate, the money is worth more to you than it is to them.
the scene at 5:04 is so sad. So sad on so many levels.
Since i am an introvert and dancing in public is the last thing i would ever do, im glad my country does not have walmart
@@BlackoutGootraxianthat's not the issue but it's like saying we will do whatever for menial amount of money and that they are ok with this or actually think this is a good thing either way it's depressing
@@kero-x8l Exactly it's beyond degrading. This whole system is honestly a joke.
Always remember not to compare your job to others its about skill development and passion wether its all about cleaning toilets to building a software we have different talents college degree is nothing more than a mere paper it will not guarantee your future NEVER stop learning new things.
What your college degree is depends on what university you visited.
Same shit happened to me. Didn't have student loan but I did had 2 degrees, bilingual and a war veteran. +300 applications later I received an offering as an accountant assistant. (PART TIME, NO BENEFITS, MINIMUM WAGE) 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
5:03 "Happiness at work" should be fighted and destroyed. 10 - 20 years ago people worked for the pay and the promotions. But they created "happiness at work", people humiliate themselves and because they are "happy" the companies doesn't need to give as much money as before. Hypocrisy increased.
I say it again : refuse "happiness at work". They want your soul and make you a smiling slave at minimal wage.
Yup I got that too
Tru
i love when wojak screams out of pain
Gachi
relax brother
ya local sadist boi
How many animals have you killed so far, Vishal?
It's reality for many people unfortunately.
I got a degree in a field that actually exists, got crap pay for the first year then bounced for the next four years until I landed at a place that actually appreciates me. I also started out at a community college and worked while in school. No debt. Sorry to all the people that fell for these college loans backed by the government. That was predatory.
A wise Chinese woman once told me. "our children need to be outstanding because there is just too much competition in the world of work"
I guess I know what she meant
As a college student im scared now, this is literally the one thing I want to avoid.
As a 16 year old I’m also scared.
As 19 year old living in a African country: pain
@@Susisidee I wish the best for you,
@@GenericUrbanism dont play the game dont waste time and money on colledge watch hamza and andrew tate and you should be good
Good luck 😂😂😂
Awww man, I remember my first job, I pretty much fucked up my interview like Wojak did when I was asked about my salary expectations.
I said that whatever the pay for this average job and I accepted it, got promoted 6 months afterwards but my pay increase was 15%.
After one year and one month, I found out I was being paid 40% less the market, asked for a raise, it was denied, quit the next week and got a decent job afterwards....
These videos motivate me and are a little to realistic to what I have done in the past 😭😂
Lol this is literally me, as a recent graduate in engineering. Most companies want me to have experience, but how am I supposed to have experience if no one hire me in the first place ?
This is the reality for every fresh graduated.
Can confirm this is true
It’s a system designed to put you in a psychological tailspin. You study at college, get into debt, can’t get a job with the degree, you study something else, get into more debt, can’t get a job with that degree, and so on and so forth. It’s all planned. Companies often don’t write their own requirements for job positions, it’s usually outsourced, to whom I wonder. The same companies that own the colleges perhaps? 😂
@@glurp2661 this is depressing...
@@dniilii I know, but it’s factually true. Just gotta rise above it. Inner strength prevails.
I remember that job search bs like it was yesterday even if it was over a decade ago. So many companies asking for at least 2 years xp for a starter position. The moment i got those years under my belt I was getting pestered by recruiters non stop.
I went to college just because it is free in my country. I can't imagine going to college and then having super big debt
Do the Wagie Waggle!
It should be mandatory for colleges to have contracts with different companies and to give you three job offers from them. If they can't offer you any guarantee after you graduate, they should give you your money back plus some extra money for wasting years of your life with them.
In India colleges actually give you placement 😋👍 or a interview 😀 🎉🎉🎉
In the summer of last year, I sent in about 200 applications. It took me five months to find an ok job.
And when I finished undergrad, it took me 6 months to find a job making $25K a year….lol
The job searching process is soul-crushing.
My first job was working across the street from High School at a MOBIL mart.
My manager was STEALING.
She was even plotting to having the store robbed.
When new beers 🍺 came out, we’d taste test them on the job.
Based
That’s excellent.
OMG this is EXACTLY what it’s like starting out!
I feel his pain. I now have an entry level job that pays $17 an hour that I'll be starting soon.
Wagie
@@henryg9059 not anymore, I’m self-employed now
I actually got an entry level job in sales 2 months ago, the pay is surprisingly good and the people are really nice. The only con is the unrealistic targets, but most people dont care about them that much anyway, or so they tell me.
Does that involve going door to door on people's houses or is it all by phone?
@@FinalMythology All via phone and emails, outbound. The only issue I have with this job is the fact that people dont pick up and its starting to irritate me, but Ill push through it since the team and the pay are pretty good.
so the target is just a random figure?
I'm glad I didn't fall for the college scam.
what are you doing now
@@Mayochup191🦗
It's a struggle. I found I would apply to everything I saw online, never even got a callback from 95% of them. Until I said fk it and just went around handing out resumes to all sorts of places. Got the majority of my jobs now from doing that. Never apply online unless you have every single requirement met
I feel so sad watching this video, probably because it is true to the core about what it means to be a fresh grad, with -100k, and no prospect of success beyond those big folder stacks on a dumpster job
Graduated from a small uni in a 3rd world country, so I'm already at a disadvantage when I started looking for a job. I was lucky enough to find one, stayed there for 5yrs. Now I'm a job hopper and able to haggle may salary
Wojak is our hero
Hi Ray.
Not you again
@@erone4293 sob
1:24, yes i hate this, i am looking for a part time job and i read everytime the nastiest line you can imagine: 'we need people with 1 year of house cleaning experience' i am like, how the fuck?
So glad I didn’t fall for the “college dream” trap.
😭😭
To me it was an obvious scam. “everyone is doing it.” Well, if everyone does it, then what makes you worth anything to a future employer if they have an entire ocean of faces who studied the same thing as you to choose from?
A scarce individual is one who makes it. Someone with a solution to problems others can’t do. Or a person who creates a unique service or product.
and what are you doing atm?
@@rainshii5045 multiple revenue streams but my “day job” is in the energy sector. I’m not totally against universities for accredited professionals like doctors, lawyers and engineers but the majority of college kids don’t know what they want to major in and or pick obscure things that have no demand in the real world and then they whine when they get out and have no work. It’s like dude, you just got a basic degree in business or some other liberal arts degree. Nothing about you is unique or can contribute to a company that 300 other candidates can’t offer.
Or they major in something worse that’s really off the wall, underwater basket weaving or gender studies.(joke) But, some of these college students pick blows my mind…My buddy got some generic degree and now works in real estate but his degree was never needed. Now he’s in debt and is a wage cuck. I feel sorry for him. And I tried to warn him before he went.
I was like is there anything specific you want to major in or specific career path you want to take? Him- “I’ll figure it out when I get there, chill, I have a couple years to figure out.”
Guy just wanted the university experience. Now he’s in debt and I own my house free n clear with steady streams of revenue. I’m hoping young people learn from his mistake and what this video is saying. College is a grift for the majority. Unless you’re studying a niche thing that is in demand and are especially talented above the rest about it, or you’re becoming a doctor. Stay away. Better to learn a trade, often times those guys even make more and the training is much cheaper.
@@Linkskyfyre
That is why I didnt not leave for the good colleges in the US. Harvard Stanford I give a shit if have to pay so much money.
I stayed in europe and could study for much less ( all combined living costs in a foreign city) while still studying at a top university (top50 overall).
Turns out: I am still going to do a start-up😂😂
But yes college in the US is not worth it. There I would choose to go through the entrpreneurial path or do a hands on job like carpenter or something like that and start my own biz.
When I lost my job in 2020 I had to apply for 300 positions before I found another one. It was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to go through because the rejections can really affect your confidence. Just keep trying, thats all I can say. Keep trying and you will find something that works. It can get incredibly discouraging but you have to stay positive and just stay at it.
The Job Market is a business. they're not out here to help you, only themselves, even if it means they can scrap you whenever they please.
The dance thing was hilarious
Don't work hard, be lazy, play video games and sponge every cent you can get from the state. Putting the effort in won't get you any further forward.
Could you please explain why putting any effort wont get you any further.
@@jeshurandianga1251 he's lazy
I worked while in college serving tables (had less high interest loans) then got an entry level job in my field. Got promoted, then finished my bs degree. I saved up enough to pay off 80% of my loans the day after I graduated. If the student debt forgiveness passes i can save some savings and put a down payment on a humble starter home. But I’m thinking on living on my own at an apartment for a year or two. I Started college at 23.
Nothing is ever free. They will ruin the economy and country
Fun fact:
If you lie and exaggerate on your resume you might become the CFO or CEO or Head Executive because corporate America favors such psychopathic behavior.
Missed the bit where because nobody is calling back he tries to get an unskilled minimum wage job but they reject him because he is "overqualified" and "clearly not serious about the role".
How serious do you need to be to flip burgers and stack shelves.
They always put “x years of experience required” but it’s not really mandatory. Just apply anyway. My IT mentor who makes 6 figures tells me that the experience requirement doesn’t really matter as much as long as you have other things to make up for it like your charisma, skills, qualifications, degree, etc.
Oh my God, in the 1st second of this video, people are standing in front of Chernivtsi National University, it's university in my home city! I'm so glad you decided to choose exactly this photo for your video :)
Job descriptions are a fkin meme HR has no clue what they’re looking for
Honestly, joining the military was the best choice I made in life. 5 years of experience and debt free out of the gate. Plenty of jobs out there that translate very well into the civilian world. I am an air traffic control specialist, after my 5 years of active duty, my first job paid $100k once I finished all of my qualifications which only took about 6 months.
I dont see how the US will be able maintain a highly educated workforce and compete with the other countries economically if college tuitions keeps balloning to absurd levels.
Does the US goverment really dont see a problem here?
Goverment backed loans and grants to colleges will only make them raise their tuitions. Maybe federal or state run colleges should be a bigger thing in US?
no they benefit from it, colleges and academic types come up with the policies in the first place why would they want a system that caps their own paychecks? student loans means unlimited money for them and their friends
We have state runned colleges though
Jobs websites should have a rating system and comments section for all their advertised jobs. That’d quickly let the recruiting companies know what’s ok and what isn’t.
damn that amount of detail 00:28 ... Wojak "Anderson" referring to the Matrix 10/10
You can try to skirt the question with a broad answer, such as, “My salary expectations are in line with my experience and qualifications.” Or, “If this is the right job for me, I'm sure we can come to an agreement on salary.” This will show that you're willing to negotiate.
This makes me glad I didn't pursue collage/university right after high school. My senior classmate gave me the advice to do a job first to save up for collage/university. Sometimes I feel like i'm missing out on university life but the fact I don't have debt is reassuring.
Go start a trade as soon as you finish high school
That dance is insanely funny
Always apply, even if you see the years, sometimes companies are desperate. The amount of jobs I got that I didn't quality for.
Ikr, its insane that they ask you for years of expirience when you are starting off
Is because they expect from you to be an intern for almost a year then spend 2 years as an employee in the same company for almost no salary promotion.
Then when you are looking for a new job at an entry level they will be sure you have some knowledge in the field and won't quit the job even when is stressful and don't they have to pay you like a senior because you are still 23 or 25.
Then after 5 to 10 years working in the same company they will begin to considering you for a manager position.
Idk how im about to be standing this for the rest of my life. This shit is real, it happens. Im really worried.
Yep, never think about ask your salary in the interview or something like that. Ask for a good price and put a limit in the floor, make your self worth or they will abuse you
I got a lawfirm job right outta highschool. Connections. Connections land you jobs. But not good ones. I got screwed over bad. I got knowledge from the place though. But I felt stuck. I also realized white collar jobs arent for me. And i jumped into a blue collar maintenance gig for almost double the money.
Omg these r pics from my University! So unexpected 😅
“I’m sure it won’t take long to find a decent paying job.” Hah! This is relatable! LOL!
10 commandments for you zoomers when you start your first interview(s) post grad:
1. If you scored an interview, they want you, so you have bargaining power
2. If they say, 'We are like family" - run
3. If they say, "You will not get rich here." - run
4. If the most recent hire has been there for 5+ years - run
5. If the grand majority of employees have been there for 10+ years - run
6. If the online job description does not match with what the manager is saying during the interview - run
7. If they ask, "where do you see yourself in 5 years?", what they're really asking is, "are you willing to do the same thing for 5 years and be happy? if not then leave."
8. Make sure that if you make a deal with the hiring manager that you either get a verbal or written agreement depending on the situation, "e.g. You have to take care of your children and are required to leave at 3 P.M. everyday, make sure you get that in writing."
9. Make sure you know how to get in touch with human resources when sh*t inevitably hits the wall
10. If you are allowed a tour of the workplace, only talk to grunt workers. Supervisors and other managers will lie through their teeth to get you to sign on
Even if you are in absolute dire straights, please consider these commandments because there is no point in taking the job then quitting 2-3 months later and having to explain it to the next interviewer
About #3 and #4, I would not suggest to run but to check how the hiring company gets jobs done. For instance, how junior can evolve in this company? Are they stuck because of the manager etc. Anyway, if people are treated nicely, a junior position gets you the necessary experience at the end to apply to a better position somewhere else. Anyway, nice commandment checklist!
great commandments
My only thing is that you don’t need to add the 2-3 months of work experience from the last job you quit onto the resume. It’s not like they have a way to find out (I guess they could look up your name in a system or ask around with people from other companies but they have so many people that they physically can’t keep track about every little detail)
requiring experience for starter positions should be illegal.
Boomers: "It's so easy to get an entry-level living wage job right after graduating college".
Also boomers: *Wants you to have 10 years of experience, a master's degree, and be a member of the X-Men for at least 5 years. Pay is 35k a year*.