Somewhere in his mind, Donald Fagen simply has to actually want a long form interview with Rick. Rick is in a nearly unique position to interact comfortably and truly intelligently with Donald. Donald seems to always have been a warrior of sorts, struggling on many fronts. While his victories are legend, they're incomplete without his insights and observations.
What’s always left out of these conversations is these guys were all barely more than kids when they made these records. Just young dudes in their 20’s making some of the best music ever created.
Spot on! Even though I don't really understand the exact meaning of the muso tech speak, I know what they are discussing relative to the story, and I can follow the flow and therefore enjoy the conversation. 😏
Dean Parks - "How you sounded on the read down is important... but it's what you do on the 7th take, and the 12th take, because it has to be like it's the first take." Solid gold wisdom.
“Peg” was a clue in the NYT crossword a few weeks ago. I was doing it with my 22 year old son and his girlfriend. I got them to listen to Peg afterwards for about 30 seconds (TikTok attention span), and they said something along the lines of, “Oh, wow, this is like… a real song.” Small victories.
Always a pleasure to actually meet the guys who really made the music. Amazing talent in one room talking shop. I am just happy I know enough music theory to keep up. Great stories.
As a 75 year old guitarist for almost 61 of those years, I absolutely loved this one! It was wonderful watching you all enjoying the camaraderie and laughter! Thank you SO much for the smile I'll be "wearing" for days to come, as I think back over all the great details and stories!
jay graydon where do I start. I now understand his enthusiasm and his motivation. one of those few guys who are looking to capture some magic in a bottle figuratively. HAaaa how hard he worked on PEG studio session and did not despair and he got that iconic heavenly in your face drop dead guitar solo
Looooooooooove this!! Jay Graydon is a *genius*!! His analog self-designed toys & tricks, production skills, his *ears, guitar skills, chart reading/writing skills, his mad-scientist-level attention to detail in the studio.... total genius :)
I love everything you do, Rick, but Steely Dan is my number One for 45 years. As a non-player but fanatical, obsessed music fan, fascinated with theory and songwriting, I’ve learned so much. I know you can’t do Steely Dan every video, but you’ll always get viewers and likes. PLEASE get Donald on before it’s too late! 🙏🏼
A real gem. Steely Dan has always been a favorite of mine since 1972. And a sentimental favorite. My high school mates were Jeff Porcaro and his brothers.
A couple great quotes from this very insightful and enjoyable video: "It's kind of a rolling jumble of habits." Dean Parks's assessment of drummers - even the best of them - is so apt. And Jay Graydon's "It's all hammer-ons and slides" would surely confound anyone other than a savvy guitarist. And Bernard Purdie not only internalising a tune after one run through, but then directing the rest of the band is a reminder that being a great studio player benefits from talents other than 'just' being able to read and play..
“Magnetic heaven “ I love it. As a kid I read all of the album credits and these guys were all over them. Now I’m in my 50’s and I get to see them and hear what they were up to. Amazing
Absolutely, the Peg and Sultan's solos-yes, totally iconic and burned into mine too! Dopamine heaven indeed! A friend of mine insisted on only having Aja on at every party we had for 6 months straight! She had superb taste!
Jay Graydon is always so infectious in every interview he does. It seems to bring him such joy. It’s like the US government needs to employ someone just to keep him talking about these old sessions as an act of thanks for what he has given the world! (Oh and keep recording for the rest of us, who have wondered for years what happened underneath the vinyl)
I was pleased to have picked up on the modulations in Jay's piece,... and tickled to hear reference to Amos Garrett. He did a great version of "Sleepwalk" when I saw him here in Edinburgh, at The Festival - a few years ago. Dean Park's revelation that the guitar part that Tim had been so rattled, trying to achieve had actually been played by two guitars was priceless! Hats off to Tim!
I saw Amos sit in with a great little Sydney band in the 70s when Maria Muldaur was in town with Jackson Browne . He just dropped in , the singer , Wendy Grace , had a band of some of Sydney's best players , including Tommy Emmanuel's brother Phil ... Of course they did Midnight at the Oasis , just another magic night at French's in Darlinghurst ...
This isn't just reminiscing, it's revealing the musicianship that it took to make classics that no song these days will ever be played 40,50 years from now. The balance between theory and instinct that these artist move through is what makes them icons. It really motivated and excites me even at my age. I can't wait to get back in my studio as soon as I'm finished with this interview! Thanks Rick!!
Rick, as a 70 year old guitarist watching your interviews with the likes of Tim, Dean and Jay at this stage of my life all I can say is thank you, thank you, thank you. It is sooooo interesting to hear these guys talk about their careers and their music...simply fascinating. I started playing in 1970 and can identify with all the various musical trends they lived. Thank you so much for being who you are and making this available.
Wow. Hearing Jay's story about hiw New Frontier was developed was amazing. The fact that they did all that work and ended up with Marotta's drum part, tearing the song down and REBUILDING all of it, with his groove as THE groove was very insightful to Fagen's process. "Do the work to find the magic element, and then build on that." Amazing.
LOVE Steely Dan. So many great guitarists have played on their albums and have been in the band. Skunk and Denny were a great guitar duo in particular. Glad I got to see Steely Dan live on the Two Against Nature tour. RIP Walter.
14:06 Donald Fagan's Nighfly album. The song is New Frontier for those on their music educational journey. 18:42 Midnight at the Oasis by Maria Muldaur.
Rick, I LOVE this!!! I am a drummer, 29 years old. I make my living as a private drum teacher. I am a massive fan of your channel and always try to show my students Steely Dan.
Rick I am not a musician but that interview was pure GOLD! Always loved those musicians but my appreciation of them has gone through the roof! Thank you! Thank You!
Hands down, probably my favorite interview, Rick. When I was coming up as a young guitarist; late 70s, early 80s, all these guys, Jay Graydon, Dean Parks, Larry Carlton, Steve Lukather, etc. were all on my moms albums. I would sit, as we all did and study the liner notes, As I found out who was playing, I would seek out more albums they played on. That was, of course much more challenging because there was no internet.
What a gift to us Rick! Thank you. Jay at 16:32 sharing how he worked out in his mind DF suggestion “Think Blues” might be some of the most fascinating moments I have seen in your incredible work.
I am a sucker for interviews like this. Rick Beato interviewing (more like hanging out) with three world class studio guitar players. Having Dean Parks there makes it even more special to me. Rick should do a regular round table discussion with studio musicians where they just tell stories, talk about music, and discuss the history of a side of the music business that is just about extinct. Nobody is talking about the studio world after the Wrecking Crew. The entire history of the L.A. studio world needs to be documented and preserved!
I was at GIT in '91, Steve Dudas (great guitarist) did a Steely Dan performance class, every week we'd learn a different song and we'd get up and try our best to get thru it. The best of times! This is pure gold Rick.
I'm really speechless. Being Steely Dan my favourite band of all time, here Rick, you give me anther tonne of reasons to know for sure that I'm completely right. I love Tim, don't et me wrong but Dean Parks and Jay Graydon are, simply put 2 of the very best session musicians in history. their knowledge but over all their humble approach is the stuff that make a music lover like me to feel that this is it. Another viewer here says that we are getting more and more close to the Donald Fagen interiew.... I know I know but this is your fault because I'm convinced after these years that there is nothing impossible within The Beato World of Dreams. Much love and admiration as always from West Spain.❤
For those who only know Jay's guitar work from "Peg", check out Marc Jordan "I'm A Camera", Steve Kipner "The Ending", and the Airplay album. All '79-'80.
To me, Graydon is the definition of that best ”early 80’s L.A. sound”. He had David Foster as his songwriting/producing partner, and they did a TON of classic stuff. Chaka Khan, George Benson… But he’s produced and co-written one of the greatest AOR albums ever: ”Pages” by Pages (1981)!!
A room full of giants sharing licks, laughs and wisdom. Pure gold. Thank you all for the music. If Don had walked in at the end to shake all your hands I would not have been all that surprised.
Hey Rick. Don’t worry about getting Fagan for a interview ( from what I’ve heard, he’s weird anyway) 😉 The interviews you have done and this one give us a clear picture how these sessions were done. I love to think that whoever you interview, the main thread is getting as much info about how these Steely Dan recordings happened. We all LOVE Steely Dan SO MUCH we can’t get enough of them. I also love the fact that Tim and you are in awe of Dean and Jay’s stories and of course their craftsmanship. Greetings pal. 👍🏻 Ps. Hearing that Walter was a heavy supporter of Chuck Rainey is as a bass player myself cool to hear. Love the man AND his playing.
Just finished listening to the interview...their stories are so amazing! Great musicians but also wonderful, mysterious lyrics. When I listen to Steely Dan it is like listening to fine art because everything just comes together perfectly and that is what separate's them from most other bands.
Rick, THANK YOU for the impromptu recording/filming this get together! What a priceless telling of lived history! When you can get him to sit down with you in Atlanta, please interview Billy Strings! Nuf said! Thank you. Cheers!
I love this. Super granular and amazing to hear them play the part of the solo on Peg. Great to hear. Some day Fagan will join Rick and hopefully talk about THE BLUES influence of Steely Dan!
Rick, one thing no one discusses is you are alike all of those guys in one thing. You are a perfectionist. Things CAN always be better. Any band who says a song is as good as it can be is probably not all that great. Kudos to the artists of the world!
Neil Young, Jack White, are fantastic artists who don't shoot for perfection but 'good enough'. We just don't knowxhow of these solos were incredible because as Jay said, they're in magnetic heaven!
Since when was music about perfection? Motown's recording sessions alone blow that theory out of the water. The seventies was when a lot of musicians climbed up their own technical asses - hence the punk revolt against it, and the popularity of disco etc. I've ofen read how a rough guide vocal became the official recorded version, Here's a famous example. When asked where the single for the new album release was Randy Bachmann said, “We have this one song, but it’s a joke. I’m laughing at the end. I sang it on the first take. It’s sharp, it’s flat, I’m stuttering to do this thing for my brother.” All attempts to improve the vocals failed "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" went to #1 in the States and 22 other countries - his brother, the butt of the joke, even stopped stuttering. This said, I very much enjoyed Rick's video!
@@alfonslemel5745 does my comment say music is about perfection? Sure, you can find these random examples of joke songs becoming big. But generally speaking, the greatest collections of music are detailed extremely drawn out recording processes from highly competent musicians. Look at every album that has millions of millions of sales. I just am happy people still value not being satisfied with 4 chords, throwing a solo in the middle, and calling it art. It’s not a crime to try very hard or not at all!
ah, the artistry is knowing when a work is complete. but... a good producer, even with time constraints or budget limitations, can produce an "excellent product" because of his talent and experience.
Storm at Sunup was a popular jazz fusion album with me and friends who were into Chick Corea and Weather Report. Looking at his discography, I was blown away by the albums Graydon played and/or collaborated on. He's a major talent that I was only marginal familiar with.
This ended way too soon....I could listen to these guys for hours...hoping for Larry Carlton or Steve Lukather, Danny Kortchmar, Nile Rogers to pop in.
Rick, I discovered your channel as a Steely Dan fan, and I've enjoyed your examination of other artists and the histories of the rock Era, the stories. But I have never been as impressed by this interview, when your four Old Masters sat around laughing about the "soundtrack of my life". Through you I've found Tim Price and Adam Reder. You guys are reintroducing me to the music I always loved in ways I never knew.
I come from an area where a lot of the local guitarists look at each other as competitors mostly, which I didn't subscribe to. Seeing these legendary guys like this so super refreshing to me. I loved it.
You can play any Steely Dan album today and it sounds relevant and better than anything. These kids listen to today. Now with that being said, I can’t wait to listen to the interview.
Rick my dear boy, YOU, are an absolute legend thank you. I want to thank you in advance for your Buckethead and John Frusciante interviews ....🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤣
❤we all love talented Tim Pierce so very much-Musical Dean-yus Parks gave him well-deserved relief today about his jingle bell rock experience, I will not soon forget this and then there is Jay Graydon and I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a chill interview from him prior…..Rick Beato, we cherish you so much ❤thank you for bringing this to us.
And to make further connections, Dave Brubeck was name checked in the "bomb shelter' song these guys were talking about from Fagan's "The Night Fly"record: "New Frontier." "I hear you're mad about Brubeck. I like your eyes. I like him, too."
To an 'old' guitar player and long-time Steely Dan fan like me, this is GOLD. Listening to these guys talk about what they played and how they played it is unbelievably cool.
This is pure gold! Would love a full episode with Jay about his production and engineering part as well ...he's such a character. A bass player hang would be great too ...with Abe, Chuck and some of that ilk ;)
I know Rick’s interviews are usually well thought out and orchestrated, and that’s brilliant, but this for me is the reason RUclips is great. A hang with no filter. The best!
Every time I watch any of these guys, I feel I learn more than any other source (school, lessons, other videos, etc.). I have to watch this another 80 times before I really get it, but that's ok.
Oh my goodness Rick you, continue to inspire us! As a semi-retired musician myself who was lucky enough to perform with some of my heros & with the LSO Etc. it's so wonderful to hear you guys chewing the fat about real music. Godspeed!
I know these guys' names because I was a voracious reader of album liner notes. That's one of the reasons I miss vinyl records -- they had the lyrics and liner notes. I'm not a musician but I have so much respect for professional (real) musicians.
Cool timing! I just bought the Citizen Box set! (Which I used to borrow constantly from my buddy when it was first released) So I finally got my own after all these years! Better late than never. Steely Danny Whatever!!!
The repeating 1/2 step modulation that Jay made in his spare time is such an awesome end to the show. Displaying both the genius and the musical mad scientist abilities Jay possesses. With those sweet guitar riffs at the end of each passage, evoking riffs on so many Al Jarreau tunes he produced. Loved it... and the 3 other geniuses in the room had to hand it to him for creating the 'musical rubiks cube'.
Awesome interview Rick! Love how they take me back to the 70's and 80's with all their anecdotes. I hope one day you discover Stanley Jordan. He would be another awesome interview!
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I feel we’re getting closer and closer to witness an interview with Donald Fagen 🙏🏽
"Build it and he will come".
Amen
Somewhere in his mind, Donald Fagen simply has to actually want a long form interview with Rick. Rick is in a nearly unique position to interact comfortably and truly intelligently with Donald. Donald seems to always have been a warrior of sorts, struggling on many fronts. While his victories are legend, they're incomplete without his insights and observations.
Tho everyone wants this to happen Donald is ever so reclusive as he gets older.
This HAS to happen before Donald is too old or gone. Get it done Rick!
What’s always left out of these conversations is these guys were all barely more than kids when they made these records. Just young dudes in their 20’s making some of the best music ever created.
But kids who went to the best music school in the country and played multiple instruments there. We underestimate youth.
Yes and they studied the greats and added their own twist.
as a non musician, I understood about 10% of what you were talking about, but as a music lover, I loved listening to every moment.
Spot on! Even though I don't really understand the exact meaning of the muso tech speak, I know what they are discussing relative to the story, and I can follow the flow and therefore enjoy the conversation. 😏
Ditto!
Me too!
God almighty JAY GRAYSON sends me to guitar solo heaven.
That very thought went through my mind. :) 😄
Dean Parks - "How you sounded on the read down is important... but it's what you do on the 7th take, and the 12th take, because it has to be like it's the first take." Solid gold wisdom.
Dean Parks is such a treasure, he is so humble,polite but a legend and a monster player in guitar scene, top notch
“Peg” was a clue in the NYT crossword a few weeks ago. I was doing it with my 22 year old son and his girlfriend. I got them to listen to Peg afterwards for about 30 seconds (TikTok attention span), and they said something along the lines of, “Oh, wow, this is like… a real song.” Small victories.
A real song by real musicians! Great job Dad
Bravo! 👍
Saw Steely Dan live (for the second time) a couple years ago with my daughter. She got to see Hey Nineteen live when she was actually 19!
Fantastic! A huge small victory, tbh¡
I cant help but feel depressed by your sons comment, did you not introduce him to music as a child?
Oh my Rick… Another homerun!!!!
I’ve said and I’ll say it as long as it’s true : BEST CHANNEL FOR MUSICIANS EVER!
…BEST MUSIC INTERVIEWS HANDS DOWN.
Absolutely 😮🎉
Totally agree!
Amen To that Another Gem 💎💎💎💎
...and for non-musician music-lovers, too!
Always a pleasure to actually meet the guys who really made the music. Amazing talent in one room talking shop. I am just happy I know enough music theory to keep up. Great stories.
As a 75 year old guitarist for almost 61 of those years, I absolutely loved this one! It was wonderful watching you all enjoying the camaraderie and laughter! Thank you SO much for the smile I'll be "wearing" for days to come, as I think back over all the great details and stories!
I'm with you brother. 68 here, been playing guitar & bass for 55 years.
With you too, 71 and the same. Playing since 14.
@robertthornburn101 I liked when the guitar was passed around and every body took a " silent crack " at peg solo. I was laughing and nodding yes
I am watching Jay Graydon show Dean Parks the Peg solo. My mind is BLOWN
As he tells Dean he plays it better than he himself can 😂 lol!
It's just total magic 😂
absolutely man, I never ever thought that one day I would witness this wonders
Great stuff Rick. Keep em coming!
Just amazing ears. Being able to remember and hear a half-step difference in that solo.
Proof that musicians make great storytellers. These guys are legends. Thank you Rick for this Hangout. Much appreciated.
jay graydon where do I start. I now understand his enthusiasm and his motivation. one of those few guys who are looking to capture some magic in a bottle figuratively. HAaaa how hard he worked on PEG studio session and did not despair and he got that iconic heavenly in your face drop dead guitar solo
The thing where Jay re-teaches the Peg solo to Dean and then to Rick and THEN to Tim is pure gold. This is fun to watch.
Looooooooooove this!! Jay Graydon is a *genius*!! His analog self-designed toys & tricks, production skills, his *ears, guitar skills, chart reading/writing skills, his mad-scientist-level attention to detail in the studio.... total genius :)
Right?! I need to get you into the studio for an interview next!!
I could listen to these guys all day every day.
Same here!!
I love everything you do, Rick, but Steely Dan is my number One for 45 years. As a non-player but fanatical, obsessed music fan, fascinated with theory and songwriting, I’ve learned so much. I know you can’t do Steely Dan every video, but you’ll always get viewers and likes. PLEASE get Donald on before it’s too late! 🙏🏼
I'd love to hear a Beato/ Fagen conversation but....wonder if it's a good idea? If you know what I mean.
Jay’s solo on Peg is a musical monument
And Dean Parks is one of the greatest session guitarists of all time
Can you IMAGINE the amount of collective guitar licks in this room!?!?
A real gem. Steely Dan has always been a favorite of mine since 1972. And a sentimental favorite. My high school mates were Jeff Porcaro and his brothers.
A couple great quotes from this very insightful and enjoyable video:
"It's kind of a rolling jumble of habits." Dean Parks's assessment of drummers - even the best of them - is so apt.
And Jay Graydon's "It's all hammer-ons and slides" would surely confound anyone other than a savvy guitarist.
And Bernard Purdie not only internalising a tune after one run through, but then directing the rest of the band is a reminder that being a great studio player benefits from talents other than 'just' being able to read and play..
“Magnetic heaven “ I love it. As a kid I read all of the album credits and these guys were all over them. Now I’m in my 50’s and I get to see them and hear what they were up to. Amazing
me too
That’s an album but Wax , Graham Gouldman and Andrew Gold
That Peg solo is as iconic to me as the solo in Sultan’s. It’s burned into my brain circuits. Dopamine machine.
I know what you mean. hair stands up on my arms dopamine. floods my left brain my inner ear dialates all halfway through the double stops.
Absolutely, the Peg and Sultan's solos-yes, totally iconic and burned into mine too! Dopamine heaven indeed! A friend of mine insisted on only having Aja on at every party we had for 6 months straight! She had superb taste!
New series 'Hangout with.....' - really appreciating this window into the world of well known and great musicians!
Yeah 100 % agreed, Rick should start that with this being the first episode.
That’s it right there!
It’s a moral imperative !!
Jay Graydon is always so infectious in every interview he does. It seems to bring him such joy. It’s like the US government needs to employ someone just to keep him talking about these old sessions as an act of thanks for what he has given the world! (Oh and keep recording for the rest of us, who have wondered for years what happened underneath the vinyl)
I was pleased to have picked up on the modulations in Jay's piece,... and tickled to hear reference to Amos Garrett. He did a great version of "Sleepwalk" when I saw him here in Edinburgh, at The Festival - a few years ago.
Dean Park's revelation that the guitar part that Tim had been so rattled, trying to achieve had actually been played by two guitars was priceless! Hats off to Tim!
I loved that bit!! Ha ha
I saw Amos sit in with a great little Sydney band in the 70s when Maria Muldaur was in town with Jackson Browne . He just dropped in , the singer , Wendy Grace , had a band of some of Sydney's best players , including Tommy Emmanuel's brother Phil ... Of course they did Midnight at the Oasis , just another magic night at French's in Darlinghurst ...
Love how Dean Parks listens to Graydon’s parts with such a big smile and respect.
I love this, but I keep thinking about how much I would love hearing from Denny Dias.
Yes!
For a band famous for its hired guns, their original guitarists were no slouches. Denny Dias' solo in "Your Gold Teeth II" is ethereal.
@@61hink YES
This isn't just reminiscing, it's revealing the musicianship that it took to make classics that no song these days will ever be played 40,50 years from now. The balance between theory and instinct that these artist move through is what makes them icons. It really motivated and excites me even at my age. I can't wait to get back in my studio as soon as I'm finished with this interview! Thanks Rick!!
Jay Graydon was a SENSATIONAL guitarist. Sensational ! Skilled and so musical !
These kinds of interviews will be treasured for a long, long time. Thank you, Rick.
This stuff NEVER gets old!
This will be treasured by Steely Dan fans for decades.
All these guys are my idols--and I’m a drummer. Great job on this one, Rick!
Me too...and I'm a drummer as well.
@@jackdemeis16 Excellent! Pleased to meet ya, fellow percussionist! 🥁
Same here!
@@bryangibson8479 Right on, Brotha!
Same Here
Rick, as a 70 year old guitarist watching your interviews with the likes of Tim, Dean and Jay at this stage of my life all I can say is thank you, thank you, thank you. It is sooooo interesting to hear these guys talk about their careers and their music...simply fascinating. I started playing in 1970 and can identify with all the various musical trends they lived. Thank you so much for being who you are and making this available.
Masterclass. Period. I sometimes forget how many light years ahead of most of us that these guys are. Jay is a beast!
Wow. Hearing Jay's story about hiw New Frontier was developed was amazing. The fact that they did all that work and ended up with Marotta's drum part, tearing the song down and REBUILDING all of it, with his groove as THE groove was very insightful to Fagen's process. "Do the work to find the magic element, and then build on that." Amazing.
LOVE Steely Dan. So many great guitarists have played on their albums and have been in the band. Skunk and Denny were a great guitar duo in particular. Glad I got to see Steely Dan live on the Two Against Nature tour. RIP Walter.
There is so much to digest in this video. Thank you so much Rick, for all you do for us. I really appreciate your effort. You know what people need.
Jeez, these guys are such pros - beautiful stories. Amazing to be a fly on the wall.
The interaction between the four of you was wonderful! Glad you were able to piece this one together.
14:06 Donald Fagan's Nighfly album. The song is New Frontier for those on their music educational journey. 18:42 Midnight at the Oasis by Maria Muldaur.
Awesome tune
that was amos garrett on lead and it was bad ass....
Do you know the song at 49:30?
@@ethanpelletier9998 most likely you could check the jay graydon diskography ...licks sounded a lot like the ride he took on josie
I’d kill to know the name of that song. It sounds really interesting. They don’t reference it at all other than playing it.
I love these get-togethers of multiple musicians. There are always great stories.
I clicked the Like button before I even started watching. There is no way this will be bad. 🙂
Rick, I LOVE this!!! I am a drummer, 29 years old. I make my living as a private drum teacher. I am a massive fan of your channel and always try to show my students Steely Dan.
Rick I am not a musician but that interview was pure GOLD! Always loved those musicians but my appreciation of them has gone through the roof! Thank you! Thank You!
So much fun to listen to. And Rick, your humility always impresses me. You're the host and yet you let everyone else do all the talking.
Hands down, probably my favorite interview, Rick. When I was coming up as a young guitarist; late 70s, early 80s, all these guys, Jay Graydon, Dean Parks, Larry Carlton, Steve Lukather, etc. were all on my moms albums. I would sit, as we all did and study the liner notes, As I found out who was playing, I would seek out more albums they played on. That was, of course much more challenging because there was no internet.
What a gift to us Rick! Thank you. Jay at 16:32 sharing how he worked out in his mind DF suggestion “Think Blues” might be some of the most fascinating moments I have seen in your incredible work.
I love these interviews with legends
ALWAYS love watching a RB interview with serious players - Theres nothing like it on YT or anywhere else - THANK YOU Mr. Beato
Love the banter. Graydon is a hoot. His playing is SO lyrical.
I am a sucker for interviews like this. Rick Beato interviewing (more like hanging out) with three world class studio guitar players. Having Dean Parks there makes it even more special to me. Rick should do a regular round table discussion with studio musicians where they just tell stories, talk about music, and discuss the history of a side of the music business that is just about extinct. Nobody is talking about the studio world after the Wrecking Crew. The entire history of the L.A. studio world needs to be documented and preserved!
This interview belongs in the Rock n Roll Musical Hall of Fame.
Pretty wild discussion. Now I know the geniuses behind all the great "Steeley Dan" sounds.
A lot of the 70s LA Studio Guitar scene relating history. It doesn't get much better than this. Kudos, Rick.
I was at GIT in '91, Steve Dudas (great guitarist) did a Steely Dan performance class, every week we'd learn a different song and we'd get up and try our best to get thru it. The best of times! This is pure gold Rick.
Jay Graydon produced two of the best albums that The Manhattan Transfer released -- Extensions from 1979 and Mecca for Moderns from 1981.
And his solo on Twilight Zone is perfection🎸🤘🏻
I'm really speechless. Being Steely Dan my favourite band of all time, here Rick, you give me anther tonne of reasons to know for sure that I'm completely right. I love Tim, don't et me wrong but Dean Parks and Jay Graydon are, simply put 2 of the very best session musicians in history. their knowledge but over all their humble approach is the stuff that make a music lover like me to feel that this is it. Another viewer here says that we are getting more and more close to the Donald Fagen interiew.... I know I know but this is your fault because I'm convinced after these years that there is nothing impossible within The Beato World of Dreams. Much love and admiration as always from West Spain.❤
For those who only know Jay's guitar work from "Peg", check out Marc Jordan "I'm A Camera", Steve Kipner "The Ending", and the Airplay album. All '79-'80.
And of course the fantastic Al Jarreau records!
To me, Graydon is the definition of that best ”early 80’s L.A. sound”. He had David Foster as his songwriting/producing partner, and they did a TON of classic stuff. Chaka Khan, George Benson… But he’s produced and co-written one of the greatest AOR albums ever: ”Pages” by Pages (1981)!!
Rick! what a life! your friends are my guitar heros! God bless you!
Love it at 6:23 when the camera zooms in on Tim and Rick smiling at the mention of polychords.
Thnks for this I went back to look, I was nodding too
I love that 70s-80s LA studio sound. These guys are my heroes. You should get Mitch Holder on here. Really underrated.
Are you freaking kidding me!
While Rick teases one particular 'interview ', he hits you with another doozie😎
What a hang!! Could watch/listen for hours and hours....endless stories of my musicical path through life
That was so cool! Nothing beats the old stories to the soundtracks of our lives.
A room full of giants sharing licks, laughs and wisdom. Pure gold. Thank you all for the music. If Don had walked in at the end to shake all your hands I would not have been all that surprised.
Hey Rick. Don’t worry about getting Fagan for a interview ( from what I’ve heard, he’s weird anyway) 😉
The interviews you have done and this one give us a clear picture how these sessions were done.
I love to think that whoever you interview, the main thread is getting as much info about how these Steely Dan recordings happened. We all LOVE Steely Dan SO MUCH we can’t get enough of them. I also love the fact that Tim and you are in awe of Dean and Jay’s stories and of course their craftsmanship.
Greetings pal. 👍🏻
Ps. Hearing that Walter was a heavy supporter of Chuck Rainey is as a bass player myself cool to hear. Love the man AND his playing.
This is next level for us guitar geeks. I love this, please do more of these group remembering things
I can’t begin to count everything I’ve learned from your content. Thank you.
Just finished listening to the interview...their stories are so amazing! Great musicians but also wonderful, mysterious lyrics. When I listen to Steely Dan it is like listening to fine art because everything just comes together perfectly and that is what separate's them from most other bands.
I'd love to see and interview with Boz Scaggs
Rick, THANK YOU for the impromptu recording/filming this get together! What a priceless telling of lived history!
When you can get him to sit down with you in Atlanta, please interview Billy Strings! Nuf said! Thank you. Cheers!
❤ fantastic 😊 thank you for your getting them altogether ☺️
Jay's enthusiasm is so infectious. 🙂 This is a real guitarist barbecue chat. All it needed was a few beers. Wonderful!
Looking forward to a Donald Fagen interview one day.
I love this. Super granular and amazing to hear them play the part of the solo on Peg. Great to hear. Some day Fagan will join Rick and hopefully talk about THE BLUES influence of Steely Dan!
Rick, one thing no one discusses is you are alike all of those guys in one thing. You are a perfectionist. Things CAN always be better. Any band who says a song is as good as it can be is probably not all that great. Kudos to the artists of the world!
Neil Young, Jack White, are fantastic artists who don't shoot for perfection but 'good enough'. We just don't knowxhow of these solos were incredible because as Jay said, they're in magnetic heaven!
Since when was music about perfection?
Motown's recording sessions alone blow that theory out of the water.
The seventies was when a lot of musicians climbed up their own technical asses
- hence the punk revolt against it, and the popularity of disco etc.
I've ofen read how a rough guide vocal became the official recorded version,
Here's a famous example. When asked where the single for the new album release was Randy Bachmann said,
“We have this one song, but it’s a joke. I’m laughing at the end. I sang it on the first take. It’s sharp, it’s flat, I’m stuttering to do this thing for my brother.”
All attempts to improve the vocals failed "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" went to #1 in the States and 22 other countries - his brother, the butt of the joke, even stopped stuttering.
This said, I very much enjoyed Rick's video!
@@alfonslemel5745 does my comment say music is about perfection? Sure, you can find these random examples of joke songs becoming big. But generally speaking, the greatest collections of music are detailed extremely drawn out recording processes from highly competent musicians. Look at every album that has millions of millions of sales. I just am happy people still value not being satisfied with 4 chords, throwing a solo in the middle, and calling it art. It’s not a crime to try very hard or not at all!
ah, the artistry is knowing when a work is complete.
but... a good producer, even with time constraints or budget limitations, can produce an "excellent product" because of his talent and experience.
Love to hear pros talk. I don't understand much but ,hell, it's history. and it's fascinating. Rick, nice shirt. Can I have it?
Love to hear those guys reminisce. Jay playing on the early Gino Vannelli album was excellent.
Storm at Sunup was a popular jazz fusion album with me and friends who were into Chick Corea and Weather Report. Looking at his discography, I was blown away by the albums Graydon played and/or collaborated on. He's a major talent that I was only marginal familiar with.
That last song that Jay played with the ascending chords sounded very Gino Vannelli-esque.
This ended way too soon....I could listen to these guys for hours...hoping for Larry Carlton or Steve Lukather, Danny Kortchmar, Nile Rogers to pop in.
Rick, I discovered your channel as a Steely Dan fan, and I've enjoyed your examination of other artists and the histories of the rock Era, the stories. But I have never been as impressed by this interview, when your four Old Masters sat around laughing about the "soundtrack of my life". Through you I've found Tim Price and Adam Reder. You guys are reintroducing me to the music I always loved in ways I never knew.
I come from an area where a lot of the local guitarists look at each other as competitors mostly, which I didn't subscribe to. Seeing these legendary guys like this so super refreshing to me. I loved it.
Love it. Every one of these videos is a time capsule of the music industry.
You can play any Steely Dan album today and it sounds relevant and better than anything. These kids listen to today. Now with that being said, I can’t wait to listen to the interview.
Fantastic…Jay Graydon is such a trip!
I’m sooo grateful any time I can hear Dean Park’s magnificent wisdom.
Rick my dear boy, YOU, are an absolute legend thank you. I want to thank you in advance for your Buckethead and John Frusciante interviews ....🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤣
❤we all love talented Tim Pierce so very much-Musical Dean-yus Parks gave him well-deserved relief today about his jingle bell rock experience, I will not soon forget this and then there is Jay Graydon and I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a chill interview from him prior…..Rick Beato, we cherish you so much ❤thank you for bringing this to us.
The jazz tune mentioned by Dean and Jay was "Take Five" by the Dave Brubeck quartet. Go check it out. Amazing
One of my dad’s favourite tunes. It’s a classic 50’s classic of jazz.
And to make further connections, Dave Brubeck was name checked in the "bomb shelter' song these guys were talking about from Fagan's "The Night Fly"record: "New Frontier." "I hear you're mad about Brubeck. I like your eyes. I like him, too."
@@doublelifeatributetothecar2185 I caught that too! 👍😊
To an 'old' guitar player and long-time Steely Dan fan like me, this is GOLD. Listening to these guys talk about what they played and how they played it is unbelievably cool.
This is pure gold!
Would love a full episode with Jay about his production and engineering part as well ...he's such a character.
A bass player hang would be great too ...with Abe, Chuck and some of that ilk ;)
I know Rick’s interviews are usually well thought out and orchestrated, and that’s brilliant, but this for me is the reason RUclips is great. A hang with no filter. The best!
Every time I watch any of these guys, I feel I learn more than any other source (school, lessons, other videos, etc.). I have to watch this another 80 times before I really get it, but that's ok.
Oh my goodness Rick you, continue to inspire us! As a semi-retired musician myself who was lucky enough to perform with some of my heros & with the LSO Etc. it's so wonderful to hear you guys chewing the fat about real music. Godspeed!
Tim is a great listener! Not much out of him that day. I really enjoyed this video!
This Jay guy is a fascinating teacher!, makes me want take a lesson from him....Is he teaching??
Jay Graydon and Rick in one video. I didn't know I needed that, but I welcome it
I know these guys' names because I was a voracious reader of album liner notes. That's one of the reasons I miss vinyl records -- they had the lyrics and liner notes. I'm not a musician but I have so much respect for professional (real) musicians.
Cool timing! I just bought the Citizen Box set! (Which I used to borrow constantly from my buddy when it was first released) So I finally got my own after all these years! Better late than never. Steely Danny Whatever!!!
The repeating 1/2 step modulation that Jay made in his spare time is such an awesome end to the show. Displaying both the genius and the musical mad scientist abilities Jay possesses. With those sweet guitar riffs at the end of each passage, evoking riffs on so many Al Jarreau tunes he produced. Loved it... and the 3 other geniuses in the room had to hand it to him for creating the 'musical rubiks cube'.
"Who are the guys with the beards?!?" Tim Pierce is losing it, and so am I 🤣🤣🤣
In Canada we call them Zed Zed Top. :^)
Awesome interview Rick! Love how they take me back to the 70's and 80's with all their anecdotes. I hope one day you discover Stanley Jordan. He would be another awesome interview!