Has anyone noticed how the concept of saying sorry is recurrent in a lot of Milgram songs? Futa says people learn to apologise before they learn to speak. Then Mu says her sorry magic spells aren't working anymore. Amane mentions the people who punish her say sorry afterward. And now Kotoko's song with saying sorry won't let them off
i think thats even more interesting since we need to decide if theyre guilty or not , if we will forgive them or not . people apologize to gain forgiveness .
Easily my favorite part about this series! I love how differently “Sorry” is viewed between the prisoners, it helps get a grasp of their true personality
i feel like theyre all asking for forgiveness for their crime in that way and the people who say that saying sorry isn't enough might more strongly believe they should be guilty
I kind of have a connection it’s just with the name milgram. It reminds me of the milgram experiment wich tests people’s obedience wich shows in decos songs
i would like to remind the milgram fandom that voting isn’t about whether they’re innocent or guilty, it’s about if you forgive them or not! you can forgive or not forgive them for any reason (and remember they’re all written in a way that makes them morally gray) and there isn’t really much canon information, it’s all mainly theories. while it’s okay to think your theory is plausible don’t go attacking other people for their theories since it’s still the first trial and we do not have much information other than our own theories! that and milgram doesn’t want us to attack others and remember the mvs come from their perspective! like for example, mu thinks she’s innocent and forgivable so her mv came from a perspective which showed her in a good light, and shidou thinks he’s guilty so his mv came from a very guilty perspective! just keep that in mind when you theorize.
this is what i LOVE about MILGRAM, the subjective POVs. But question: what do you think Undercover? I feel like it wasn't from Es' POV but a general one (not to mention, he doesn't even have memories), but then again...? (I just feel sometimes that Es could be the mastermind which is why I really need Es theories)
@Oi Josuke As for me, I believe(d) in going with what _should_ be right, because I feel our perception is twisted after the prisoner appeal to us. Which is why I wanted Amane to be voted guilty--so that she'd know her ideals are twisted (and wrong), and so that she could get some help, if MILGRAM had that system. But my expectations were completely thrown out in Shidou's BDay convo, when they said the guilty prisoners aren't doing well. So as of now... I'm actually confused as to how we should be voting. But Mikoto? That guy is a special case. He just seems TOO EASY to vote guilty. His MV legit proved that he knew about everything (since he shouldn't be able to lie). The DID theory was mentioned by Kotoko but I don't think we'll get the answer so easily. Therefore, I was kinda torn and hoping he'd get voted innocent somehow- ofc it didn't happen, so I guess we wait and watch. I also love talking about MILGRAM!! ^^
@Oi Josuke I'm glad you understand my method. ^^ I, too, don't like the situations they've been in tbh. All of it is so toxic. :< I hope they can find their happiness one day... (Jackalope said he was good with relationships within the Prison so I'm hoping this will be used sometime) Yeah, same here! Mikoto... well, he speaks to US, like the audience (especially that part before he punches us) so he pretty much knows it's an ACTUAL (?) reality show - how though? How much does he know? I'm not sure. But is Mikoto cheating the system (with being able to hurt Es and all)? YES. So I don't believe much in the MV either. I don't know what's a lie and what's not. And... does being voted guilty even affect Mikoto? I am a mess of theories and questions (not to brag but here's a theory I had written: ruclips.net/video/nwpNaqTd54k/видео.html&lc=UgxV10fAUE5FbVfu_B94AaABAg (summary: I don't think the innocent and guilty side are working together. Also, according to me, the seemingly innocent side is the true guilty, so I assume we're voting for him and I'm content with the current guilty verdict.) Well... tbh I felt Fuuta didn't deserve the guilty vote. Yes, his perception was off, but he himself wasn't like Amane (am I biased?). Of course we could say the same - vote Fuuta guilty to correct his ideals, but I just felt like Fuuta isn't... wrong. Just extreme, I would say. What do you think? ALSO I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS A HARUKA VS. MIKOTO even though I'm unclear if Haruka suicided or actually killed the dog... any theories? Really love talking to you!! Thanks for your points too and hope we can continue discussing more theories!!
@Oi Josuke The writer of MILGRAM, Takuya Yamanaka, is really good at handling sensitive and personal topics with nuance (re: Caligula 2), so I fully expect some extra layer to Mikoto's MV because 'just DID' is far too blatant.
After watching the MV, I think that Kotoko is using her vigilante justice as a way to make peace with who she is as a person. A lot of the imagery and some of the lyrics made me think that Kotoko doesn't like herself very much. She doesn't take care of herself, and she devotes herself entirely to this thing, in which she really wants to know that she's right. There's also the fact that she seems to be targeting people who are committing child abuse, so it's possible that she herself suffered in some way, which is why she feels so strongly about it. I also think the fact that her fangs only appear at the very end of the video could imply that this is her first kill. She's obviously risen to violence before, but it seems like this might have been a turning point for Kotoko in terms of what she's actually done. I think the thing we're being asked to judge in terms of guilt is just "what punishment does someone deserve?" Kotoko says death penalty and executes it. However, Kotoko is now on trial for her own crimes. It makes sense that Kotoko has gotten a lot of focus so far, because the question of her morality is the question for all of Milgram: can you forgive them? What punishment do they deserve? EDIT: After looking again with more sleep, I think that the final person who Kotoko kills is the person who hurt her. Lots of people have been saying that the girl with the shadow (3:03) is Kotoko when younger, and I agree. That would be consistent with Kotoko potentially only killing the last one, because she has a lot more fury towards him, and, as represented by the change in lyrics from "I'll gouge you out with my fangs" vs. "I want to gouge you out with my fangs." The only things that hold me back from this theory are the change in outfits from the outfit with the hat to the red hooded jacket (little red riding hood--innocence?) and the fact that the guy doesn't necessarily look like he's aged, even though Kotoko has.
i dont think she is just targeting only child abusers based on 黒猫 comment which shows translations of certain news articles throughout the video at 1:30 she can be seen beating up an assaulter/swindler for harming others. However i agree that she seems to be overly dedicated to her cause and is willing to cross the line to kill if the need arises
You know, both futa and kotoko seem to have taken the role of judging and punishing the *evil* they see as no one else has. They're also standing highest on the stairs in the key visual, where we (Es, the Guard) are at the very top. Idk where I was going with this
Yeah Futa was my favorite along with Haruka before Kotoko appeared. Too bad Futa lost it a bit in his way of delivering justice,but I agree until the end w Kotoko;she's at the top of my list now
OK. Wassup English Milgram, it's me. Let's cut straight to the case, Kotoko TOLD US and showed us that she was gonna punish bad people harshly, but she even shows us that she's willing to cut us off and replace us as well. First 30 seconds , we see that Kotoko isn't alone in her room. There's a wolf pack around her. She was taught and trained to hunt criminals as a part of her wolf pack and at 1:05 we see that she's not exactly in the lead. Indicative of her actions in the real world at some point, we can assume she solved crimes or was a detective. However, the pack thins out throughout the song as she pulls ahead of them. As things become more and more extrajudicial, she leaves behind her pack that was, at one point, keeping her stable. It's here where we lead up to our final kill at 3:01. We first need to recognize at 2:32 that she's way ahead of the pack and alone. Except for ONE wolf who's encouraging her again. When she starts running again, it's no coincidence that the scene around her becomes too hard to recognize and foggier. She's become obsessed and lost sight of why she's doing all this leg-work in the first place. The only other new insight: 3:15. Why is the wolf-pelt hanging off of her chair? Her companions are gone. Why? Cause she's brought them to justice and replaced them. Kotoko WILL replace ES as the prison warden if she has the chance, and for sure be as harsh as possible to current and future prisoners.
This is a great insight, especially with the information we now have. It is really fun to watch the videos again after the start of season 2. It is definitely going to be interesting how her relationship with Es is going to evolve/devolve
@@zakelinos this is not an anime. milgram is an interactive music project. I suggest watch the first 3 videos on this channel to understand what's going on.
Imo, one of the reasons why i think people vote futa guilty but kotoko innocent because unlike futa, the justice he presents barely have concrete evidence. It's mostly accusations. But, kotoko on the other hand, her justice actually have evidence and she makes thorough research about it. Of course, I'm not saying i agree with what kotoko did to the prisoner, just giving my personal thoughts.
I mean, at least Fuuta only beat up people and killed that one person by accident, and regretted it, and stopped doing it altogether, while Kotoko was always intentionally killing all those crooks, instead of arresting. Why didn't she just arrest them? Is it because she knew that the justice system was corrupted?
@@Max-iq8hi probably that. Who knows? But either way, both kotoko and fuuta are guilty but at least fuuta tries to redeem his actions unlike kotoko. I was just giving my thoughts on why people voted him guilty that's all
Thinking about how it gets difficult for each prisoner in ascending over... Prisoners like Mahiru and Mikoto are confusing as hell already and it's kinda scary to think about how hard Kotoko's crime would be as well, seeing how the prisoners are more likely to be confident in what they did was "right" the more you go on. Makes you wonder what the hell did Kotoko do?
Especially since she looked happy about the murder... I feel like she'll screw our internal "right-wrong" compass. I mean, it might be that the guy she killed is a serious offender... and she actually did a good job? But... she's a murderer? Is she guilty or is she innocent?
@@asha_013 I mean the real question is is wether or not you can FORGIVE her. Like yuno she just had an abortion- it’s nothing compared to actual murders.. but for others like haruka and shidou it’s a lot more harder to choose and decipher- They are so many questions it’s either “Haruka straight up killed somebody” or “he actually killed himself (he’s child self)” and for shidou… uhhhh.
@@rokia7334 That's really what I mean. Kotoko WILL screw our logic. And you know what that means? She'll get the vote she wants. Basically I mean, Koto might have done something wrong but if you notice from her confidence and song lyrics, she frames it as a good deed, a needed murder. Aka she's twisting our perception. Now, if I go ahead and vote her innocent, that's not what I'd probably do if the facts were laid bare ahead of me. If I vote her guilty, then maybe I'm scrutinizing her too much? So when I vote, it is really ME forgiving/not forgiving her or is it my perception? Am I complicating it too much (I'm sorry; I have a tendency to overthink)?
After the voice lines that released with the drop of the Milgram second trial website today, my theories have changed quite a bit about this song. Before, the consensus was that she was a neutral good vigilante who did what was right for others, but now many are not so sure. From the beginning I was wondering if Kotoko was really killing bad guys for moral reasons, or if it was for personal satisfaction, and now that is almost confirmed. In the voice audios, while Es was sleeping, Kotoko beat up many of the guilty verdicts, including Mikoto, Futa, Amane, and nearly killed Mahiru if it weren't for Kazui stepping in. She then spoke to Es, claiming she should have been the prison guard instead, and that she had been "helping them out" while they were in forced sleep. Es seems caught off guard and she doubles down, basically saying she would have deemed more things as unforgiveable if she were in Es' place. Overall, I believe the voice segments drastically change Kotoko's character and now all we can do is wait for more clues as to who she really is. It feels like she is looking for any excuse to hurt others, and the one she has landed on is the idea of moral obligation.
I wanna point out that at 2:30 Kotoko seems pretty exhausted from all that running and fighting for justice until one of the wolves smirk at her [according to one comment's theory about how wolves represent how judgemental people are] so I’d rather say that something must’ve pushed her to the point where she cannot return from, pretty sure it's related with the flashbacks scattered in the MV. And I guess that’s when everything changed including Kotoko (she feels satisfied from killing whom she thought as guilty)
@@monolinny1817 yeah basicaly she hate the system that go easy on criminal and they got free after said "sorry" or "i will not do it again" even tho the victim life ruined then a crazy pedo that torture many kid and one or some ended dead but the man got for said go free because his father a goverment official to make it worse he do that s**t again until kotoko decided to k*il him. But she still lose and ask us/es to tell her that what she did is right, that is she do this "eyes for eyes" thing to guilty prisoner after she given innocent vendic
@@AliferousAngelsNah, Amane wasn't beaten up by Kotoko, as revealed in the post-Trial 1 video with Jackalope explaining Es what happened in which only Fuuta, Mahiru, and Mikoto were the ones physically attacked by her. It doesn't seem in character for a vigilante who killed a child kidnapper to beat up a child just because that child was deemed guilty once. Not to mention, Kotoko seems to have a pretty horrible childhood since in one of the translated official Milgram Twitter timeline posts where Amane asked Kotoko to teach her, Amane asked why she accepted Amane's request and didn't treat her like a child, to which Kotoko responded that she "likes ambitious people like Amane" and that back when she was Amane's age, she was already the person she is right now. Meaning, she had to grow up too early which made more sense of her aggressive actions to "protect the weak" since she might have not had anyone who protected her when she was weak in the past.
I found a pretty nice detail about thumbnails. Everyone except Kotoko is like meter or 2 away, but she is looking directly with her eye, like she is observing us/Es on her jail camera or something
Hi~ just some quick things I noticed from the video. In the beginning when all the purple eyes are looking at the camera I think it shows that everyone is very judgemental, not just Kotoko. (Edit: near the end, her teeth turn purple, meaning she's gone from judging to attacking) In the choruses she sees the other wolves running towards something and feels forced to go with them (express her opinions) and the “gouge you with my fangs” part in the end goes from “I’ll” to “I want to” , I think it means she goes from starting threats to actually having violent intent. A lot of people think that each pair of prisoners have contrasting themes or motivations, so for this her contrast with Mikoto is how she’s not denying anything and is killing for the sake of others (I think she killed an abuser or kidnapper shown in the vid) so it’s probably something like “Because of me vs because of others” Lastly, I think Kotoko’s case is about the double standard that people have (?) cuz honestly, everyone has a sense of justice in them and everyone is very judge-y inside, it’s just that very few of them actually go as far as she does. So in the end, I feel like she sort of got pressured a bit too hard and just acted on her instincts (somewhat like a wolf). I think that sort of sums up what I think of the vid
Text summaries 0:36 - A sign the Japanese police put in car accident sites asking for information 0:38 - A man and woman in their 20s were arrested for snatching a woman's purchased bag at a department store 0:39 - The police are looking for a man who impersonated himself as a banker and stole 500,000 yen ($5000) from an elderly woman 0:40 - A 46 year-old man was arrested for peeping photos of a high school girl at a train station 0:41 - Right article: A man in his 30s stole expensive bicycles and sold them on online forums Left article: A series of phone scams in Tokyo, seeming to be committed by the same criminal group 0:53 - Flash news: A girl's dead body was found near her home, presumed to be another victim of a killing spree targetting little girls 0:55/1:52 - The person who killed 10 people in two years was the spoiled son of an upper-class citizen. He ran over an elementary-school girl and she died, which may have been concealed due to his father's power 1:21 - Mikio Oshii, a man wanted for theft was found unconscious yesterday night and taken to the hospital, his face and stomach beaten up. Footprints of a man's sneakers were found at the site, and the police are searching for a male culprit 1:25 - Another swindling case, this time an old woman was knocked down by a man impersonating himself as a banker to steal cash, breaking her left wrist (5 weeks to heal). The culprit seems to be Mikio Oshii (age 34), previously prosecuted for assault 1:47 - New evidence: tire marks, same as the marks found near where the girl's corpse was abandoned. The culprit seems to have kidnapped her by car, murdered her, and dumped her body near her home 1:49 - Top left: Elementary-school student's tracks unknown after the 7th Top right: Something bumped into the power pole? (bumper scratch since the 12th) Center right: B1F (too blurry to read) "Checking if true!" Bottom left: Eyewitness information (27th: 2) (28th: 1) (31st: 4) Bottom right: Must keep watch 2:18 - A name card traded for a 10,000 yen ($100) bill. The card implies this man is an outside director of Shoko Newspaper Office Co., Ltd.
KOTOKO THEORY TIME Disclaimer: My only knowledge of Kotoko is through this MV, I haven't listened or read TLs of the voice drama yet so if I'm wrong, I apologize in advance. This MV is a bit more straightforward of what it presents of Kotoko. I think her schtick is that she is a vigilante, as a lot of people established. She snoops around and tries to find people who she perceives as "criminals", she also does a lot of research about their target as seen with the huge board pinned of information she has on her wall. However, there is something I haven't seen anyone comment about, which is that throughout the MV and most especially in 0:50 and 3:02, we see possibly glimpses of her past that are heavily rooted to why she acts this way. Trauma that she may have watched a loved one beaten up (to death, most likely) is surely enough fuel for someone to want to go after those villains she says. Actually if you squint, the guy's hair in the present and the flashback (3:02) is the same. I think what the MV shows is her actually trying to find the person who killed her loved one. The wolf could symbolize that she is on the hunt for something-*someone*. And in 2:24 she most likely finds the one she is looking for, and he is *still* doing crimes and trying to hurt others. Her pent up desires to hurt this person all explode to her in 2:43-when the wolf looks at her in the eye and it smirks and she returns it. Realizing she finally found what she's looking for-she finally runs after it and takes the kill. Tldr: She is a vigilante who is also hunting down the person who killed her loved one (Mother? Sister? Unclear). She finally finds him and she kills him-and she doesn't regret it. I forgive her.
What are the TLs? I’m new here lol I literally started watching all the MV last night lol. I’m still pretty confused on some stuff but I’m not sure where I can find some of the information and I was wondering where I can read those, like the voice drama…(? LOL SORRY IDK THE NAME but yes, I was wondering if you could tell me ^^*
I feel like the person (child) in her flashbacks is her past self when she was a kid. The man is probably the one who abused her ( I might have said her father but idk ). She seems to target criminals who abuse children most of the time, that's probably the reason I think she was abused as a kid too.
the man she kills and the man shes looking for has different hair, theres a theory on twt that she couldnt find her target and killed someone else convincing herself it was the one she was looking for
Kotoko answered 20 questions (taken from her wiki): 1.) Just who are you? “Yuzuriha Kotoko. Someone who plans to fight for your sake. Well, that depends on you too, though.” 2.) Can you speak any other languages besides Japanese? “English. If it's just basic day-to-day conversation, then I can speak some Mandarin and Korean as well.” 3.) Can you forgive the other prisoners if they committed the same crime as you? “Of course. I believe what I did was the right thing, didn't I say that before?” 4.) When did you start learning martial arts? “In elementary school, perhaps. Without enough power, you can't enforce justice and do the right thing, can you?” 5.) How do you spend your time in the prison? “Training and meditation.” 6.) Who's the prisoner you have the most interest in? “It's hard to say. As of now, if it's about whose character I can't quite grasp, it'd be Kazui with his strong sense of intellectual curiosity.” 7.) What did you study at university? “For a while, I studied at the faculty of law. There's something I want to do, so I'm currently taking a break from studies, though.” 8.) Tell us your family structure. “Grandmother, father, mother, older brother.” 9.) Which prisoner do you think resembles you the most? “Hard to say. Their actions are always out of my scope of reasoning. Wouldn't the one most similar to me be Futa? Although at the same time, he's also the most different from me.” 10.) What do you think about the word 'feminimity'? “It's one of the means you can take. It's something you can freely choose depending on the scene, so it's not something to cling onto.” 11.) Do you have a lover? “I don't. But if necessary, I'll get one.” 12.) Do you have a quote you live by? “There is no other path which allows me to live my life, so I will walk this path.” 13.) Do you regret anything? “No.” 14.) Is there a prisoner you dislike? “Mikoto. He’s noisy and also a nuisance.” 15.) Which is more important, the goal or the means you take to achieve it? “The goal. Isn't that just obvious?” 16.) What do you think about extenuating circumstances? “I think it's a necessary way of thinking. I don't think that committing a crime in itself is evil, so it's only natural to judge while taking a person's situation into account.” 17.) Tell me what the merits are for teaming up with you. “I'll act according to your will. And I'll protect you from harm too. Have you forgotten about that time when you were on the verge of dying?” 18.) Have you ever been bullied in the past? “No. Are people who've had such pasts the only ones who're allowed to hate evil?” 19.) How much do you know about MILGRAM? “I don't know anything. Everything I say is just guesses and speculation. Isn't that true for you too?” 20.) What do you think is evil? “Oppressing innocent weaklings.” Hope this helps! There was another comment who had posted the questions, but only the first 10, so I decided to post all of them since the second half I feel like has more hints to Kotoko’s personality and story.
“Oppressing innocent weaklings.” I wonder how she would feel if some the prisoners she attacked and 'weakened' were voted 'innocent' after the 2nd trial, and how much stronger that inner and outer conflict would become should she be voted guilty.
I feel like Kotoko definitely has a black and white way of seeing things and like another commentator said, she doesn't seem to like herself a whole lot so she is also doing this to feel better about herself by "protecting" the "weak" while taking down the "evil" ones. This mindset is as harmful to her as it is to others, even if she may not realize or not care.
Harrow: An implement consisting of a heavy frame set with teeth or tines which is dragged over plowed land to break up clods, remove weeds, and cover seed. (Google's definition). Hallow: 1. honor as holy 2. Archaic: a saint or holy person ] Hollow: 1. having a hole or an empty space inside 2. without significance And according to Wiki: In the Shinto belief, the ōkami ("wolf") is regarded as a messenger of the kami spirits and also offers protection against crop raiders such as the wild boar and deer. (Whether Kotoko is religious or not, it doesn't really say). --- It's clear in the MV that Kotoko is looking for a specific type of people: child abusers. She does the "harrowing", seeing them as "weeds" who need to be rid of in society. While the children, they are the crops who are just growing and blooming into adults. On another note, it looks like Kotoko works out a lot too, she is seen wearing athletic outfits throughout the entire video. From that, we can conclude that she is trying to get stronger to protect the "weak". (And from Mikoto's audio, she was able to protect Es from getting hurt by him). Kotoko sees herself as a wolf, or in other words: a protector. Hallow meaning she is a saint/holy person, and a wolf, a protector of children. 1:26-1:53, she finds out where one abuser is hiding and beats him up. She doesn't kill him, saying "I'll teach you the pain you caused". She doesn't accept their apologies, even after they say "I didn't mean to offend," or "I won't do it again." 1:49, (if someone could translate the article, please do!) She hears about something that really gets on her nerves, wondering what the punishment will be. She ends up losing it, and the punishment ends up being death. This is her first kill. She smiles and seems to relish in it. Whether Kotoko was abused or not as a child is unclear, but I believe the possibility is more than likely. Having been neglected and abused as a child myself, this song REALLY spoke to my heart. She often sings about how many dreams must be damaged (0:14, 1:12, 2:07, 3:02) so perhaps she wanted to be someone else when she got older? She didn't want to become someone who had to fight the evil in the world; however, since she "sweared", (0:08, 1: 06,...) that is all she is doing. 0:30 - "Stained emotions. What is winning or losing" Kotoko probably has depression (she feels hollow inside). The only thing she feels is the thrill of beating up child abusers, and reading (0:54) "the surrounding net covered with poison". She clearly feels distressed about it, having to imagine the things she had already been through. 0:42, 2:02, she explains how she doesn't believe she is normal. All in all, Kotoko is a girl who is suffering from depression from abuse as a child. She feels "HOLLOW" inside. Her dreams have been shattered. She has nothing to believe in other than the swears she took upon herself to protect the children from evil. She finds herself becoming a beast, or a "HALLOW" for them. Who then happens to be "HARROWING" out the 'weeds' of society, believing what she is doing is right. [ And, if someone is able to translate 0:37-0:43, 1:26, 1:52, and 2:19 that would be great! :) ] Sorry if my analysis is outta order/chaotic. This was a fun song to go through.
This is definitely how I thought of it too! I really love how detailed this theory is, I too really want to know the translations for the news ,•__• I think she might just be targeting one person tho. She had multiple people on her board but when she found the first guy she only beat him up (she had no fangs yet) so I think she just got info from him. When she finds her target she kills him and gets her “fangs”. I heard this fang metaphor from another theory. I think yours makes a lot of sense, sorry if I’m just adding confusion or anything. I didn’t mean to invalidate your theory in anyway.
Thank you, ^^ And no, you're not confusing me or making it sound like you're invadlidating my theory! You have a good point that she could be targeting only one person since she ultimately killed one at the end because she got info from him. I just don't think that was the case because she says "losing it" (can't pinpoint where atm ^^" but somewhere near the end of the song), and she just happened to have a breaking point where she lost complete control. And to add, on the bullet board she had multiple faces of men... but not sure if she got info from them either. Not invalidating your theory, either. It's a good one! :)
I don't think she's only after child abusers. The newspapers are about scams, robberies (the guy at 1:30 robbed an old lady and pushed her causing her to break her hand) and one guy taking up-skirt-shots at a train station. The guy at the end is apparently guilty of killing 10 people in 2 years (a new record!) and the sign by the road is asking for information about a hit-and-run that happened there that he also was responsible for. I don't think she killed anyone until she got to that guy who to be fair, someone should murder if he hasn't gone to jail even though he must be one of the most efficient serial killers in history.
@@CanIswearinmyhandle Okay, thay makes much more sense. Thanks for the clear up about the newspapers :) I guess I'll have to think of something new for the mean time
Still best girls for me, bad guys should be punish no matter their ages or status. Tell me did u forgive mass shooting because she is a cute 12 years old ? Or a rap**r becase he is famous ? F NO, somehow I agree with kotoko "eyes for eyes" way.
The fact that the story is so straightforward makes me think that she's painting herself in a positive light and what she's done is more sinister. Pretty sure there's more too this
A part of me feels that she's too perfect to be innocent. Again, the MVs and music are based on the prisoner's thoughts. So this MV might just be Kotoko painting herself in a positive light because she's completely convinced herself that she has done nothing wrong and that the scene at the end of her killing the girl's abuser is an illusion she created for herself. Forgiven or not, either way, she's best girl.
I mainly relied on the Twitter translation function but here’s Kotoko’s interview: Q1: After all who are you? A: Yuzuriha Kotoko. Someone who plans to fight for your safety. Well that's up to you too Q2: Can you speak any language other than Japanese? A: English. If it's just everyday basics, then I speak a little Mandarin and Korean too. Q3: Would you forgive other prisoners if they had committed the same crime as you? A: Of course. I believe what I did was the right thing, didn't I tell you this before? Q4: When did you start learning martial arts? A: In elementary school, maybe. Without enough power, you can't do justice and you can't do the right thing, can you? Q5: How do you spend your time in prison? A: Training and meditating Q6: Which prisoner are you most interested in? A: It's hard to say. Now, if it's about a character I can't quite understand, it would be Kazui with his strong sense of intellectual curiosity. Q7: What do you do in college? A: For a while I studied law. There's something I want to do so I took a break from studying. Q8: Tell us about your family structure A: grandma, dad, mom, big brother Q9: Which prisoner do you think is most like you? A: Hard to say. Your actions are always outside my scope of reasoning. Wouldn't the most similar to me be Fuuta? Even if at the same time he looks the most different from me. Q10: What do you think of the word "femininity"? A: It's one of the means you can take. It's something you can freely choose depending on the scene, so it's not something to cling to.
If you notice, during some of the flashing scenes in the beginning, it shows the same maroon-haired guy at the end, as well as what I can only assume to be a younger Kotoko. My theory is that, the guy who Kotoko murdered in the end, is the same guy who kidnapped her at a younger age, since the maroon-haired guy had kidnapped another child-like victim. In the second flash near the end, you see a different girl (supposedly young Kotoko when she was kidnapped) all tied up. I assume that Kotoko feels like she, a survivor, must be the leader of her pack and be the "voice" of people who were kidnapped just like her. She kills the kidnapper who kidnapped her and the other young girl, with her goal being accomplished. I don't think she killed anyone other than the kidnapper because her main goal was to look for the kidnapper. You can see, near the bottom right of the corkboard, there is a circled face who you can slightly tell he has maroon-colored hair, resembling the guy at the end. She is checking the news and looking at recent crimes to see if she can spot out any similar actions of the guy she aims to kill. With the lyrics, "Let’s end this! “HARROW HARROW” / I can’t forgive the evil hurting the weak / It’s unforgivable, I won’t allow it, I sweared" perhaps meaning she sweared to take revenge? Harrow means something like despair, then meaning "lets end this "despair"", regarding her traumatic experience? Also! Must mention that Kotoko is the first of the prisoners who has a long-term intent to kill someone specific. She's been hunting this guy with full intent to kill them, and it's a specific person--compared to the other prisoners. I personally forgive Kotoko. She avenged her younger self and killed the kidnapper. Good on you, Kotoko! What do you guys think?
So hyped for the last soundtrack in the first trial!! This will definitely be a banger and maybe shocking as well! There could be a plot twist during the story or something like that, who knows
Honestly I'm just really curious because the song is already out... so we can confirm there's no twist like Mikoto's! But there's that feeling of something being there, for sure.
@@asha_013 I gotta check out the song then haha. And yeah, there's gotta be something in this mv! I think they could add something symbolic to represent rebelion, justice, etc or maybe a look into her mind and how/why she does what she does.
@@chopper3726 It's on spotify! :) I think Koto-chan is gonna do the opposite of Miko. As in, since Miko showed his crimes straight-forwardly and threatened us, maybe Koto will hide her crimes to show us she's 'right' and butter us/try to get the innocent vote.
in the voice drama there is a really interesting words said by kotoko, when Es is talking about whether all of them are guilty or not kotoko said "your role is not only to judge their guilt, but also found out who is innocent". this actually says that she truly understand what is she doing and what will it caused. However she lost of the sense of how precious a life is, she dont think killing someone is a guilt, thats why she only focus on whether a person is guilty or not and excluding the action of killing since killing is just a tool.
The fact that she basically says she wants to be validated by being told she’s in the right now makes so much sense with that happens after the first trial
Kotoko's MV seems to revolve around her tracking or hunting down criminals that she finds online and/or someone told her about, before acting as an unknown vigilante and punishing said criminals as she fits. At first, she did purely out of the goodness in her heart to hunt down evil-doers that the police or local authorities have either let go or yet to catch. But as the hunt went on, her motive or reason for hunting down these criminals had changed. From being the unknown vigilante that gives them the punishment they deserve, to a hunter that purely just wants to hunt someone down. In her own pursuit of Justice, she began to lose herself in the process. Slowly becoming a hunter driven by bloodlust or the thrill of participating in a hunt. In the opening scene where Kotoko wears a blindfold and seemingly refuses to remove it, the lines "I want to be drowning in the knowledge that I am right", "Losing it, losing it, losing it" and "What should I hope for", and the scene where she looks like she had barely gotten any sleep can all signify that with each and every hunt she had made, she loses her sense of reason and herself each time, and/or that she refuses to see the world for what it truly is. Kotoko knows that killing a person is wrong, that's why she had tried avoiding doing it on her previous hunts. She only got the criminals beaten up, but as she kept hunting criminals down, her mind slowly began to break down to the point where she had rationalized the idea of killing in her mind. She was uncertain about her actions and decisions. Uncertain about the morality of her actions. Until she had finally accepted that she had changed, that her drive for chasing down criminals had changed. From trying to protect the weak. to enjoying the thrill of hunting down a criminal and being able to punish them herself. Kotoko's motive had changed over time. After staring into the abyss, the abyss had gazed back onto Kotoko.
Something interesting with this MV thumbnail is that you only see kotoko's eye. In other character MV you would always see a thumbnail with at least the whole face showing. Not in this one. I haven't really thought of any theorie, just wanted to pinpoint that out.
I was thinking the same !!! And also why are the prisoners arranged in this order? I know smth abt them being divided in two who has the same kind of case like num 3/4 , mu the bullied and futa the bully num 9/10 mikoto the criminal kotoko the cop And it goes on
@@shiroyay I’ve seen a theory that said the prisoners are divided based on how guilty they feel for what they did. For example, Futa is the 3rd and u could see he was shocked in his MV. While Kotoko here doesn’t feel any regret or remorse from what she did as she is placed the last. (The reason why I didn’t choose Haruka and Yuno cause it wasn’t very obvious and after that second trial it’d be rather confusing) But with the thumbnail theory? I still have no idea either but it seems interesting!
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メモ
ハルカ:見てほしい
ユノ:見たくない
優しさが欲しい
フータ:懲らしめたい
ムウ:甘やかされたい
悪いヤツに謝らせたい
シドウ:愛する人のために
マヒル:愛される自分のために
愛のためなら何でも
カズイ:不誠実
アマネ:忠実
素直になっちゃだめ
ミコト:悪いことして何が悪い？
コトコ:良いことして何が悪い？
自分を正当化
うおーめちゃんこ優秀
А это откуда? Я просто не разбираюсь 😄
Но очень зацепило
自分に当てはまるというか共感するキャラ達を好きになってることにこのコメントで気づいてしまった、、
ミコト(悪)の言い分っぽいですね
Has anyone noticed how the concept of saying sorry is recurrent in a lot of Milgram songs? Futa says people learn to apologise before they learn to speak. Then Mu says her sorry magic spells aren't working anymore. Amane mentions the people who punish her say sorry afterward. And now Kotoko's song with saying sorry won't let them off
i think thats even more interesting since we need to decide if theyre guilty or not , if we will forgive them or not . people apologize to gain forgiveness .
Easily my favorite part about this series! I love how differently “Sorry” is viewed between the prisoners, it helps get a grasp of their true personality
Mahiru being completely unapologetic is also notable
i feel like theyre all asking for forgiveness for their crime in that way and the people who say that saying sorry isn't enough might more strongly believe they should be guilty
I kind of have a connection it’s just with the name milgram. It reminds me of the milgram experiment wich tests people’s obedience wich shows in decos songs
i would like to remind the milgram fandom that voting isn’t about whether they’re innocent or guilty, it’s about if you forgive them or not! you can forgive or not forgive them for any reason (and remember they’re all written in a way that makes them morally gray)
and there isn’t really much canon information, it’s all mainly theories. while it’s okay to think your theory is plausible don’t go attacking other people for their theories since it’s still the first trial and we do not have much information other than our own theories! that and milgram doesn’t want us to attack others
and remember the mvs come from their perspective! like for example, mu thinks she’s innocent and forgivable so her mv came from a perspective which showed her in a good light, and shidou thinks he’s guilty so his mv came from a very guilty perspective! just keep that in mind when you theorize.
this is what i LOVE about MILGRAM, the subjective POVs.
But question: what do you think Undercover? I feel like it wasn't from Es' POV but a general one (not to mention, he doesn't even have memories), but then again...?
(I just feel sometimes that Es could be the mastermind which is why I really need Es theories)
@Oi Josuke As for me, I believe(d) in going with what _should_ be right, because I feel our perception is twisted after the prisoner appeal to us. Which is why I wanted Amane to be voted guilty--so that she'd know her ideals are twisted (and wrong), and so that she could get some help, if MILGRAM had that system. But my expectations were completely thrown out in Shidou's BDay convo, when they said the guilty prisoners aren't doing well. So as of now... I'm actually confused as to how we should be voting.
But Mikoto? That guy is a special case. He just seems TOO EASY to vote guilty. His MV legit proved that he knew about everything (since he shouldn't be able to lie). The DID theory was mentioned by Kotoko but I don't think we'll get the answer so easily.
Therefore, I was kinda torn and hoping he'd get voted innocent somehow- ofc it didn't happen, so I guess we wait and watch.
I also love talking about MILGRAM!! ^^
@Oi Josuke I'm glad you understand my method. ^^ I, too, don't like the situations they've been in tbh. All of it is so toxic. :< I hope they can find their happiness one day... (Jackalope said he was good with relationships within the Prison so I'm hoping this will be used sometime)
Yeah, same here! Mikoto... well, he speaks to US, like the audience (especially that part before he punches us) so he pretty much knows it's an ACTUAL (?) reality show - how though? How much does he know? I'm not sure.
But is Mikoto cheating the system (with being able to hurt Es and all)? YES. So I don't believe much in the MV either. I don't know what's a lie and what's not. And... does being voted guilty even affect Mikoto?
I am a mess of theories and questions (not to brag but here's a theory I had written: ruclips.net/video/nwpNaqTd54k/видео.html&lc=UgxV10fAUE5FbVfu_B94AaABAg
(summary: I don't think the innocent and guilty side are working together. Also, according to me, the seemingly innocent side is the true guilty, so I assume we're voting for him and I'm content with the current guilty verdict.)
Well... tbh I felt Fuuta didn't deserve the guilty vote. Yes, his perception was off, but he himself wasn't like Amane (am I biased?). Of course we could say the same - vote Fuuta guilty to correct his ideals, but I just felt like Fuuta isn't... wrong. Just extreme, I would say.
What do you think?
ALSO I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS A HARUKA VS. MIKOTO even though I'm unclear if Haruka suicided or actually killed the dog... any theories?
Really love talking to you!! Thanks for your points too and hope we can continue discussing more theories!!
it’s like unreliable narration and personally i love unreliable narration
@Oi Josuke The writer of MILGRAM, Takuya Yamanaka, is really good at handling sensitive and personal topics with nuance (re: Caligula 2), so I fully expect some extra layer to Mikoto's MV because 'just DID' is far too blatant.
なんだろう、曲の前半と後半で、｢この牙で抉るよ｣が、｢この牙で抉りたい｣にかわってるのゾッとした、、、
初めは｢悪いことした人は許さない！｣って感じだけど、後半は｢悪いことした人をいたぶりたい｣って感じた(´・ω・｀)
だけど、｢正しさに溺れていたい｣んだろうな〜
追記
HARROWの意味
⇒まぐわ(農具の1種。水田の土をかきならす)
(精神的に)苦しめる
調べたらこう出てきました。もしかすると、オオカミ(？)のきばがこのまぐわを表していて、世の中を平等にする(水田を平らにする)ため、犯人を苦しめているという意味なのかと思いやした。
一か月前のコメントに失礼。狼は本能のままに生きる強さのシンボルでもあるらしいから、コトコは最終的に本能で他人を裁いて快感を得ているのかも…
コトコがエスに協力的というか手を組もうと接触してくるのは、罪人を裁くということに対しての興味があったからなのかな
囚人達を有罪にしてもらおうとしてるんかな？
ミルグラムってさ、ほぼ全ての曲で殺した動機とかそういうのが大雑把には見えてくるんよ。でも「具体的に説明して」て言われたら頭こんがらがるってところがホンマに凄い。全貌が見えそうで見えてこないんですよね。
第一審だけでは絶対辿り着けないようにしてるというかなんというか。
めっちゃわかりますそれ。
なんか初見ではあーそういうことね……みたいに理解した気になるんですけど、深いところまで理由を聞かれるとあれ、わからんってなってくる感じがあるんですよね。
第2審にも期待です。
@@田中未琴
今回のコトコもなんとなくは分かりますよねえ…。正義の心が段々「獲物を狩りたい」というただの欲求に変わっていって最終的に狼みたいになってしまったみたいな。
最後の「正しさに溺れてたい」が「楽しさに溺れてたい」にも聞こえる。
ボイスドラマ聴いてても思ったけど、やっぱり「自分は正しいことをしている」という自信がある子だなぁ。
何よりとても美人。
コトコの行動は何となくミルグラム実験を彷彿とさせますよね………
自分が裁く側に居ると無意識に錯覚してて、悪人に加虐的になってる、それを楽しんでる、みたいな…
その節はある。だから俺らにはコトコを裁く権利はない。
他の女の子勢は可愛い系の曲なのに、コトコだけバチクソにかっこいいの反則じゃん…
仕事だったけどようやく聴けたー！
一回だけ聴いて感じた印象は、なんだかフータの過去と対比になってる気がする。
フータはネットで軽犯罪を犯した人を徒党を組んで炎上させ、精神的に追い詰める。コトコは現実で重犯罪を犯した人を一人で探してボコボコにして、肉体的に追い詰める。とことん真逆だけど、やっぱり似てる気がする。
そんで動画の行動の始まりも、フータはわりと軽い気持ちで、悪とかに憎しみとかはないけど自分が強者になったと勘違いして得られる優越感に浸りたかったから。コトコは自分の弱さを痛感するような出来事があったからこそ悪人を憎むようになり、それを乗り越えるため、あるいはかつての自分のような弱い人のためにとかっぽそう。自分本位←→他人本位の対比。
結末も真逆で、フータは命が失われてからようやく自分が追い詰めていたのは現実の人間だったのだと自覚した。でもコトコは動画で見る限り悪人を暴行すればするほど、目の前の命に現実感を持てなくなってしまってる気がした。初めは楽しんで人を傷つけていたフータは最後に自分の犯した過ちに恐怖して、悪を成敗するという正義感から悪人をボコボコにしてたはずのコトコは最後には暴力そのものに快楽を見出すようになる。
考えれば考えるほどに対比的だねこの二人。あんまり絡んでる印象ないけど
After watching the MV, I think that Kotoko is using her vigilante justice as a way to make peace with who she is as a person. A lot of the imagery and some of the lyrics made me think that Kotoko doesn't like herself very much. She doesn't take care of herself, and she devotes herself entirely to this thing, in which she really wants to know that she's right.
There's also the fact that she seems to be targeting people who are committing child abuse, so it's possible that she herself suffered in some way, which is why she feels so strongly about it.
I also think the fact that her fangs only appear at the very end of the video could imply that this is her first kill. She's obviously risen to violence before, but it seems like this might have been a turning point for Kotoko in terms of what she's actually done.
I think the thing we're being asked to judge in terms of guilt is just "what punishment does someone deserve?" Kotoko says death penalty and executes it. However, Kotoko is now on trial for her own crimes. It makes sense that Kotoko has gotten a lot of focus so far, because the question of her morality is the question for all of Milgram: can you forgive them? What punishment do they deserve?
EDIT: After looking again with more sleep, I think that the final person who Kotoko kills is the person who hurt her. Lots of people have been saying that the girl with the shadow (3:03) is Kotoko when younger, and I agree. That would be consistent with Kotoko potentially only killing the last one, because she has a lot more fury towards him, and, as represented by the change in lyrics from "I'll gouge you out with my fangs" vs. "I want to gouge you out with my fangs." The only things that hold me back from this theory are the change in outfits from the outfit with the hat to the red hooded jacket (little red riding hood--innocence?) and the fact that the guy doesn't necessarily look like he's aged, even though Kotoko has.
banger comment
This is a really well-done comment, I agree!
Banger indeed
W comment, I agree
i dont think she is just targeting only child abusers based on 黒猫 comment which shows translations of certain news articles throughout the video at 1:30 she can be seen beating up an assaulter/swindler for harming others. However i agree that she seems to be overly dedicated to her cause and is willing to cross the line to kill if the need arises
「抉るよ」「教えてあげる」とかミコトみたいな自分が上に立ってること前提？にしてるとこあるし、最後笑ってたり爽快感あるから悔いはなさそう．．．
コトコちゃん、最初は純粋な正義感から悪い人をこらしめてたのかなぁ…？
でも最後らへんだと笑顔だから楽しんでる…？
最終的に「正義感」ではなく「楽しいから」やるようになっちゃったのかな…もしくは「あいつは悪人だから」っていう免罪符を作ってやったり……
何処かの誰かと似てるなぁ……
歌詞を見直したら、コトコちゃんは過去に知り合い、もしくは自分自身が何らかの暴行被害にあってそうな感じがする？そしてそれを泣き寝入りしてしまって相手に何もできなかった。
「自分みたいな思いはさせたくない。」という気持ちで悪人を懲らしめてたのかもね…
馬鹿だからわかんないので考察繋げてってくれ〜〜すごい人〜〜〜！！！！
@dwoudwurpl
天才ですね…？言われてみれば確かに…と納得しました。
しかもわかりやすく解説されててありがたいです！ありがとうございます！
序盤の考察は同意です
ラスサビ前で今まで追従してた狼がにやける場面があって、狼=コトコの暴力性だと仮定すると恐らくあの瞬間に自分の正義より殺しの快楽が勝ってしまったんでしょうね
You know, both futa and kotoko seem to have taken the role of judging and punishing the *evil* they see as no one else has. They're also standing highest on the stairs in the key visual, where we (Es, the Guard) are at the very top. Idk where I was going with this
I love this! Such a cool detail to notice!
yes 🤭 it’s interesting how their motives are quite similar
No, no, you may have a point here...
Like how Futa and Kotoko are judging people's evil deeds, Es is judging there's...
Yeah Futa was my favorite along with Haruka before Kotoko appeared. Too bad Futa lost it a bit in his way of delivering justice,but I agree until the end w Kotoko;she's at the top of my list now
HARROWの意味が恥ずかしながら分からなくて調べたんだけど、まぐわをかける、まぐわでならすって意味の他に、人を精神的に苦しめるっていみがあって、受け身でも使われるって知って鳥肌がたった…
私は英語を話す人ですけど、その言葉は知らなかったですw
harrowは異教の寺院という意味の言葉(haerg)が語源らしい。罪人を社会に罰させず自分の正義を信じ自分で罰する人間には異教と言う言葉はお似合いゾね。
むしろコトコが苦しめられているんじゃないか？何かを追っているような。
@@hamham-siromo確かに。一瞬迷ってたシーンあったよね。
@@nasubi_0 個人的に、家族を法で裁けない凶悪犯に殺されたとか、そういう系統の展開があると思う。
「命を使って消したい物があるから」
コトコちゃんは誰の為にその牙を使っているのかな。
アンダーカバーでも同じ歌詞がありましたね
OK. Wassup English Milgram, it's me.
Let's cut straight to the case, Kotoko TOLD US and showed us that she was gonna punish bad people harshly, but she even shows us that she's willing to cut us off and replace us as well.
First 30 seconds , we see that Kotoko isn't alone in her room. There's a wolf pack around her. She was taught and trained to hunt criminals as a part of her wolf pack and at 1:05 we see that she's not exactly in the lead. Indicative of her actions in the real world at some point, we can assume she solved crimes or was a detective.
However, the pack thins out throughout the song as she pulls ahead of them. As things become more and more extrajudicial, she leaves behind her pack that was, at one point, keeping her stable. It's here where we lead up to our final kill at 3:01. We first need to recognize at 2:32 that she's way ahead of the pack and alone. Except for ONE wolf who's encouraging her again. When she starts running again, it's no coincidence that the scene around her becomes too hard to recognize and foggier. She's become obsessed and lost sight of why she's doing all this leg-work in the first place.
The only other new insight: 3:15. Why is the wolf-pelt hanging off of her chair? Her companions are gone. Why? Cause she's brought them to justice and replaced them.
Kotoko WILL replace ES as the prison warden if she has the chance, and for sure be as harsh as possible to current and future prisoners.
wow...
thank you so much for this insight!
This is a great insight, especially with the information we now have. It is really fun to watch the videos again after the start of season 2. It is definitely going to be interesting how her relationship with Es is going to evolve/devolve
This is a great teory!
this is brilliant.
idgaf let her do it I love kotoko
MVと歌詞からしてコトコさんの殺人は「犯罪者への私刑」で間違いなさそうですね。MVの中で映る事件の記事やニュースの内容が男性から女性に対しての事件や高齢者が騙された事件である事から見て「強者が弱者から奪う(権利を侵害する)」事が許せないのではないのではないでしょうか。「失って 失って」という歌詞がありますし彼女も昔犯罪の被害にあったのかもしれません。
犯罪者への私刑を赦すか赦さないかは人によって考えが大きく異なる部分なので、投票結果がどうなるか楽しみです。
コトコの人格とか罪とかはさておき見た目と声と曲が好きすぎるんだよな………愛美さんの力強い歌声助かる…
コトコが犯罪者を裁いてるつもりで殺していっているんだとしたら、他のミルグラムの囚人達もその対象に入るのかもしれない。だとしたらヤバそう。
天才か？天才か占い師か？
実際にフータくんとマヒルさんガチフルボッコにされちゃったからその通りやな
後コメ主のコメ一年前のやつやんか…予言じゃねぇか…ホントにその通りになっちまった…
닥터 스트레인지 씨가 나타났다..!!
bro predicted it 😭😭
blud was correct
I waited over a year for this and it's finally time for the HARROWing, this is gonna be amazing
FR THOOO AHHHH I'M SO EXCITED
LET THE HARROWING COMMENCE!
In 6 days ofc....
@@firestar6302 Heyyy sorry for disturbing but I have a question. Is this an anime and if yes what’s its title???
@@zakelinos this is not an anime. milgram is an interactive music project. I suggest watch the first 3 videos on this channel to understand what's going on.
もしコトコが罪のある人を裁いてるんだとしたらやってることほぼMilgramじゃんってなって鳥肌
裁く権利があるかどうかの違いよね。今のところは
@@haise873 私達には裁く権利があるの？
@@オルカ-v5w あれそーゆーコンテンツじゃないっけ？
@@D4DJ_2525 そういうコンテンツですね(*´･ω･｀)
@ たまむぅー
そういうコンテンツなだけで、実際に裁いてもいいのかっていうのは結構怪しいよね、ボイスドラマでも囚人のみんなそこに不満を感じてたっぽいし
狼が複数なのにコトコはずっと孤独に見えるのが気になっていて 最後に共に走る1匹だけがコトコの意識で、あとの狼は……被害者の会のメンバーとかなのかな
共に犯人を探したとても、その更に先に進んでしまったのはコトコだけ、とか…
いつもクールなお姉さんって感じなのにめっちゃ情熱的な歌い方でびっくりした……
どっちも好きです
Imo, one of the reasons why i think people vote futa guilty but kotoko innocent because unlike futa, the justice he presents barely have concrete evidence.
It's mostly accusations.
But, kotoko on the other hand, her justice actually have evidence and she makes thorough research about it.
Of course, I'm not saying i agree with what kotoko did to the prisoner, just giving my personal thoughts.
I mean, at least Fuuta only beat up people and killed that one person by accident, and regretted it, and stopped doing it altogether, while Kotoko was always intentionally killing all those crooks, instead of arresting. Why didn't she just arrest them? Is it because she knew that the justice system was corrupted?
@@Max-iq8hi probably that. Who knows? But either way, both kotoko and fuuta are guilty but at least fuuta tries to redeem his actions unlike kotoko. I was just giving my thoughts on why people voted him guilty that's all
Thinking about how it gets difficult for each prisoner in ascending over... Prisoners like Mahiru and Mikoto are confusing as hell already and it's kinda scary to think about how hard Kotoko's crime would be as well, seeing how the prisoners are more likely to be confident in what they did was "right" the more you go on. Makes you wonder what the hell did Kotoko do?
Especially since she looked happy about the murder... I feel like she'll screw our internal "right-wrong" compass. I mean, it might be that the guy she killed is a serious offender... and she actually did a good job? But... she's a murderer? Is she guilty or is she innocent?
@@asha_013 Mhm. On the outside she seems like a logical person... A far cry from what she mightve done
@@iluVioletLink Agreed. So excited for this MV. Feel like the prisoners get more complex as time goes on. Wonder if it's some foreshadowing.
@@asha_013 I mean the real question is is wether or not you can FORGIVE her. Like yuno she just had an abortion- it’s nothing compared to actual murders.. but for others like haruka and shidou it’s a lot more harder to choose and decipher-
They are so many questions it’s either “Haruka straight up killed somebody” or “he actually killed himself (he’s child self)” and for shidou… uhhhh.
@@rokia7334 That's really what I mean. Kotoko WILL screw our logic. And you know what that means? She'll get the vote she wants.
Basically I mean, Koto might have done something wrong but if you notice from her confidence and song lyrics, she frames it as a good deed, a needed murder. Aka she's twisting our perception.
Now, if I go ahead and vote her innocent, that's not what I'd probably do if the facts were laid bare ahead of me. If I vote her guilty, then maybe I'm scrutinizing her too much?
So when I vote, it is really ME forgiving/not forgiving her or is it my perception?
Am I complicating it too much (I'm sorry; I have a tendency to overthink)?
最初は正義感だったのかもしれないけど最終的には殺したいから殺してもいい人(犯罪者) を探してるようにしか見えないんだよな…
ディカバ(ディープカバー)の歌詞に「大義名分が欲しい」とか言っていたから自分の行いを悪いとも思ってなさそうなのが…気がかりすぎる…
ムウちゃんみたいな予想外なことが起きるのではないかと赦すか赦さないか躊躇しているのは私だけだろうか、
We all know Deco*27, famous pun-master, is working on this. "Harrow" in Japanese sounds very similar to howl in English, thus the wolf symbolism.
bruh madlad
個人的にラスサビ前の、オオカミが笑って牙をみせたのを、見て、コトコも笑って牙を見せる演出神すぎるし、好き
pre-mv theory is that she's very pretty !!!! ^__^
EDIT. AFTER WATCHING THE MV I SEE THAT MY THEORY IS VERY CORRECT!
Agreed!! ^^
I'm with you!!
Lmao yess
Kasumi pfp I see.
(Kasumi and Kotoko share the same VA btw)
@@monolinny1817 WTFFFFFFFFF
とにかくカッコイイ…愛美さんの絞り上げるような声とコトコの孤独な雰囲気が噛み合いすぎてて最高です
アンチビートも最高でした
なぜか100万視聴をこえたのにコトコの曲がエスにカバーされてなくて、運営さん忘れてしまったのかなと思ったけど、あえてカバーを公開してないのかもって思った。
コトコはエスに曲をカバーさせず、エスが歌う「アンダーカバー」を「ディープカバー」として追加要素を加えてカバーすることで、ミルグラム内で主導権を握りたいことを表現したかったのかもと。
After the voice lines that released with the drop of the Milgram second trial website today, my theories have changed quite a bit about this song. Before, the consensus was that she was a neutral good vigilante who did what was right for others, but now many are not so sure. From the beginning I was wondering if Kotoko was really killing bad guys for moral reasons, or if it was for personal satisfaction, and now that is almost confirmed. In the voice audios, while Es was sleeping, Kotoko beat up many of the guilty verdicts, including Mikoto, Futa, Amane, and nearly killed Mahiru if it weren't for Kazui stepping in. She then spoke to Es, claiming she should have been the prison guard instead, and that she had been "helping them out" while they were in forced sleep. Es seems caught off guard and she doubles down, basically saying she would have deemed more things as unforgiveable if she were in Es' place. Overall, I believe the voice segments drastically change Kotoko's character and now all we can do is wait for more clues as to who she really is. It feels like she is looking for any excuse to hurt others, and the one she has landed on is the idea of moral obligation.
I wanna point out that at 2:30 Kotoko seems pretty exhausted from all that running and fighting for justice until one of the wolves smirk at her [according to one comment's theory about how wolves represent how judgemental people are] so I’d rather say that something must’ve pushed her to the point where she cannot return from, pretty sure it's related with the flashbacks scattered in the MV. And I guess that’s when everything changed including Kotoko (she feels satisfied from killing whom she thought as guilty)
@@monolinny1817 yeah basicaly she hate the system that go easy on criminal and they got free after said "sorry" or "i will not do it again" even tho the victim life ruined then a crazy pedo that torture many kid and one or some ended dead but the man got for said go free because his father a goverment official to make it worse he do that s**t again until kotoko decided to k*il him. But she still lose and ask us/es to tell her that what she did is right, that is she do this "eyes for eyes" thing to guilty prisoner after she given innocent vendic
Amane??? This whole ass adult beat a child because she was declared guilty???
@@AliferousAngelsNah, Amane wasn't beaten up by Kotoko, as revealed in the post-Trial 1 video with Jackalope explaining Es what happened in which only Fuuta, Mahiru, and Mikoto were the ones physically attacked by her. It doesn't seem in character for a vigilante who killed a child kidnapper to beat up a child just because that child was deemed guilty once.
Not to mention, Kotoko seems to have a pretty horrible childhood since in one of the translated official Milgram Twitter timeline posts where Amane asked Kotoko to teach her, Amane asked why she accepted Amane's request and didn't treat her like a child, to which Kotoko responded that she "likes ambitious people like Amane" and that back when she was Amane's age, she was already the person she is right now. Meaning, she had to grow up too early which made more sense of her aggressive actions to "protect the weak" since she might have not had anyone who protected her when she was weak in the past.
I found a pretty nice detail about thumbnails. Everyone except Kotoko is like meter or 2 away, but she is looking directly with her eye, like she is observing us/Es on her jail camera or something
oh dear fuking fuk shit why did you have to mention that
Hi~ just some quick things I noticed from the video. In the beginning when all the purple eyes are looking at the camera I think it shows that everyone is very judgemental, not just Kotoko. (Edit: near the end, her teeth turn purple, meaning she's gone from judging to attacking) In the choruses she sees the other wolves running towards something and feels forced to go with them (express her opinions) and the “gouge you with my fangs” part in the end goes from “I’ll” to “I want to” , I think it means she goes from starting threats to actually having violent intent.
A lot of people think that each pair of prisoners have contrasting themes or motivations, so for this her contrast with Mikoto is how she’s not denying anything and is killing for the sake of others (I think she killed an abuser or kidnapper shown in the vid) so it’s probably something like “Because of me vs because of others”
Lastly, I think Kotoko’s case is about the double standard that people have (?) cuz honestly, everyone has a sense of justice in them and everyone is very judge-y inside, it’s just that very few of them actually go as far as she does. So in the end, I feel like she sort of got pressured a bit too hard and just acted on her instincts (somewhat like a wolf). I think that sort of sums up what I think of the vid
やっぱコトコちゃんはこのミルグラムの謎を解く鍵になりそう
タイムラインの時コトコしゃんがエスくんに向かって
「………さぁ 一緒に戦おう…エス」みたいな返信があった為謎を解く鍵は間違いなく有り得ますね
俺はこの曲聴いて逆に他の9人と大差ないと感じたけどなぁ。
聴く前は最後の1人、精神的には周りより強か、別格なのかなって印象だったけど、
聴いた後は他と変わらず同じように事情を抱えて、同じように命を奪ったんだって印象になった。なんなら直接か間接かってだけで｢悪を裁く者｣ってやってる事自体はフータと一緒だと思ったわ。
@@kochiya.
動機に関して言えば、コトコはフータより｢自分のため｣って感じがしたかな。最初は｢誰かを助けるため｣に手を汚してたのかもしれないけど、最終的には｢悪を裁く存在でありたい｣=｢自分のために｣殺してた印象。
でも一番の違いはやっぱり直接殺したか間接的に殺したか、になってくると思うな…直接ではないからこそ止めるタイミングを誤って死に追いやったフータと、最初から止める気がなくて手にかけたコトコ。何か特別な何かがあるとするならきっと、この心の差なんだろうね。
“正しさに溺れてたい”
この歌詞が、猟奇的殺人鬼な彼女の衝動を正当化するために犯罪者を狙った殺人を行ったようにしか見えない、
冒頭の記事漁ってたのはターゲットにする犯罪者を選んでいたと思う。
狼じゃなくてハスキー犬が使われてるのは
一般人＝イエイヌ。殺人鬼＝オオカミ。で比喩るとして
ハスキー犬はイエイヌだけどオオカミのDNAを濃ゆく持ってるから、“殺人鬼の本能を濃く持って産まれた一般人”を表してるように見える。
Text summaries
0:36 - A sign the Japanese police put in car accident sites asking for information
0:38 - A man and woman in their 20s were arrested for snatching a woman's purchased bag at a department store
0:39 - The police are looking for a man who impersonated himself as a banker and stole 500,000 yen ($5000) from an elderly woman
0:40 - A 46 year-old man was arrested for peeping photos of a high school girl at a train station
0:41 - Right article: A man in his 30s stole expensive bicycles and sold them on online forums
Left article: A series of phone scams in Tokyo, seeming to be committed by the same criminal group
0:53 - Flash news: A girl's dead body was found near her home, presumed to be another victim of a killing spree targetting little girls
0:55/1:52 - The person who killed 10 people in two years was the spoiled son of an upper-class citizen. He ran over an elementary-school girl and she died, which may have been concealed due to his father's power
1:21 - Mikio Oshii, a man wanted for theft was found unconscious yesterday night and taken to the hospital, his face and stomach beaten up. Footprints of a man's sneakers were found at the site, and the police are searching for a male culprit
1:25 - Another swindling case, this time an old woman was knocked down by a man impersonating himself as a banker to steal cash, breaking her left wrist (5 weeks to heal). The culprit seems to be Mikio Oshii (age 34), previously prosecuted for assault
1:47 - New evidence: tire marks, same as the marks found near where the girl's corpse was abandoned. The culprit seems to have kidnapped her by car, murdered her, and dumped her body near her home
1:49 - Top left: Elementary-school student's tracks unknown after the 7th
Top right: Something bumped into the power pole? (bumper scratch since the 12th)
Center right: B1F (too blurry to read) "Checking if true!"
Bottom left: Eyewitness information (27th: 2) (28th: 1) (31st: 4)
Bottom right: Must keep watch
2:18 - A name card traded for a 10,000 yen ($100) bill. The card implies this man is an outside director of Shoko Newspaper Office Co., Ltd.
Thank you🙏
tysm for these!!
That's really useful! Thank you!
THANK YOU!
:0 thanks this really helps
KOTOKO THEORY TIME
Disclaimer: My only knowledge of Kotoko is through this MV, I haven't listened or read TLs of the voice drama yet so if I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.
This MV is a bit more straightforward of what it presents of Kotoko. I think her schtick is that she is a vigilante, as a lot of people established. She snoops around and tries to find people who she perceives as "criminals", she also does a lot of research about their target as seen with the huge board pinned of information she has on her wall.
However, there is something I haven't seen anyone comment about, which is that throughout the MV and most especially in 0:50 and 3:02, we see possibly glimpses of her past that are heavily rooted to why she acts this way. Trauma that she may have watched a loved one beaten up (to death, most likely) is surely enough fuel for someone to want to go after those villains she says. Actually if you squint, the guy's hair in the present and the flashback (3:02) is the same. I think what the MV shows is her actually trying to find the person who killed her loved one.
The wolf could symbolize that she is on the hunt for something-*someone*. And in 2:24 she most likely finds the one she is looking for, and he is *still* doing crimes and trying to hurt others. Her pent up desires to hurt this person all explode to her in 2:43-when the wolf looks at her in the eye and it smirks and she returns it. Realizing she finally found what she's looking for-she finally runs after it and takes the kill.
Tldr: She is a vigilante who is also hunting down the person who killed her loved one (Mother? Sister? Unclear). She finally finds him and she kills him-and she doesn't regret it. I forgive her.
What are the TLs? I’m new here lol I literally started watching all the MV last night lol. I’m still pretty confused on some stuff but I’m not sure where I can find some of the information and I was wondering where I can read those, like the voice drama…(? LOL SORRY IDK THE NAME but yes, I was wondering if you could tell me ^^*
I feel like the person (child) in her flashbacks is her past self when she was a kid. The man is probably the one who abused her ( I might have said her father but idk ). She seems to target criminals who abuse children most of the time, that's probably the reason I think she was abused as a kid too.
the man she kills and the man shes looking for has different hair, theres a theory on twt that she couldnt find her target and killed someone else convincing herself it was the one she was looking for
judgeが意外と赦すに傾いてて驚いた
最初は正義感で追い詰めて狩ってただろうけど
最終的には追い詰めて狩る事自体に快感覚えちゃったように見えたから
私としては赦さないかなぁ
本当に色々凄かったとしか言えない。
Kotoko answered 20 questions (taken from her wiki):
1.) Just who are you?
“Yuzuriha Kotoko. Someone who plans to fight for your sake. Well, that depends on you too, though.”
2.) Can you speak any other languages besides Japanese?
“English. If it's just basic day-to-day conversation, then I can speak some Mandarin and Korean as well.”
3.) Can you forgive the other prisoners if they committed the same crime as you?
“Of course. I believe what I did was the right thing, didn't I say that before?”
4.) When did you start learning martial arts?
“In elementary school, perhaps. Without enough power, you can't enforce justice and do the right thing, can you?”
5.) How do you spend your time in the prison?
“Training and meditation.”
6.) Who's the prisoner you have the most interest in?
“It's hard to say. As of now, if it's about whose character I can't quite grasp, it'd be Kazui with his strong sense of intellectual curiosity.”
7.) What did you study at university?
“For a while, I studied at the faculty of law. There's something I want to do, so I'm currently taking a break from studies, though.”
8.) Tell us your family structure.
“Grandmother, father, mother, older brother.”
9.) Which prisoner do you think resembles you the most?
“Hard to say. Their actions are always out of my scope of reasoning. Wouldn't the one most similar to me be Futa? Although at the same time, he's also the most different from me.”
10.) What do you think about the word 'feminimity'?
“It's one of the means you can take. It's something you can freely choose depending on the scene, so it's not something to cling onto.”
11.) Do you have a lover?
“I don't. But if necessary, I'll get one.”
12.) Do you have a quote you live by?
“There is no other path which allows me to live my life, so I will walk this path.”
13.) Do you regret anything?
“No.”
14.) Is there a prisoner you dislike?
“Mikoto. He’s noisy and also a nuisance.”
15.) Which is more important, the goal or the means you take to achieve it?
“The goal. Isn't that just obvious?”
16.) What do you think about extenuating circumstances?
“I think it's a necessary way of thinking. I don't think that committing a crime in itself is evil, so it's only natural to judge while taking a person's situation into account.”
17.) Tell me what the merits are for teaming up with you.
“I'll act according to your will. And I'll protect you from harm too. Have you forgotten about that time when you were on the verge of dying?”
18.) Have you ever been bullied in the past?
“No. Are people who've had such pasts the only ones who're allowed to hate evil?”
19.) How much do you know about MILGRAM?
“I don't know anything. Everything I say is just guesses and speculation. Isn't that true for you too?”
20.) What do you think is evil?
“Oppressing innocent weaklings.”
Hope this helps! There was another comment who had posted the questions, but only the first 10, so I decided to post all of them since the second half I feel like has more hints to Kotoko’s personality and story.
Tysm this made me understand her character more
“Oppressing innocent weaklings.” I wonder how she would feel if some the prisoners she attacked and 'weakened' were voted 'innocent' after the 2nd trial, and how much stronger that inner and outer conflict would become should she be voted guilty.
Wow there are a lot of red flags
The 16th answer.... Ha. Ha... haha.........
thank you ! :D
2:06
SHE’S ADORABLE IN THESE FRAMES WHAT
I feel like Kotoko definitely has a black and white way of seeing things and like another commentator said, she doesn't seem to like herself a whole lot so she is also doing this to feel better about herself by "protecting" the "weak" while taking down the "evil" ones. This mindset is as harmful to her as it is to others, even if she may not realize or not care.
最初の方の囚人紹介みたいな動画でノイズの後にコトコさんが「気持ちいい」みたいなこと言ってたから、もしかしたら最初は正義目的で行っていた犯罪者退治も段々快楽を得る為に行うようになってきたのかも。
あと狼は七つの大罪で憤怒を表すらしい、好戦的で常に何かに怒りを感じていることを表すらしいけれど、これは犯罪に対して怒っており、犯罪者に制裁を下すために自分から戦っているコトコさんにピッタリでは・・・？
あと最初のほうでも犯罪者に制裁を下しているシーンはあったけれど、この時点では殺人というものをしたことはなかったけれど、最後の女児に乱暴しようとしていた男性で初めての殺人だったと考えられる。もしかしたらコトコさんは幼い頃に乱暴されて被害者側もしくは友達や姉妹などが被害者になったことがあり、強く怒りを抱いたのかもしれない。
考察は以上です┏○ﾍﾟｺ
英語がさっぱりだからひとつひとつ翻訳で読んでいるけど、推察がみんな高度ですごいし、ほんとすごい(語彙力がない)
あ、これ頭から離れなくなるやつですね、ありがとうございます。
コトコさんかっこいいいいいい！！！
てかこの子めっちゃ頭いいな。たとえ不正な手を使っていても警察より犯人に辿り着くのが早いって常人には無理だろ…
A bit late but this song feels so much like an anime opening for a series. The running around and all, with an upbeat tune, kinda like sao
Harrow:
An implement consisting of a heavy frame set with teeth or tines which is dragged over plowed land to break up clods, remove weeds, and cover seed. (Google's definition).
Hallow:
1. honor as holy
2. Archaic: a saint or holy person ]
Hollow:
1. having a hole or an empty space inside
2. without significance
And according to Wiki: In the Shinto belief, the ōkami ("wolf") is regarded as a messenger of the kami spirits and also offers protection against crop raiders such as the wild boar and deer. (Whether Kotoko is religious or not, it doesn't really say).
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It's clear in the MV that Kotoko is looking for a specific type of people: child abusers. She does the "harrowing", seeing them as "weeds" who need to be rid of in society. While the children, they are the crops who are just growing and blooming into adults.
On another note, it looks like Kotoko works out a lot too, she is seen wearing athletic outfits throughout the entire video. From that, we can conclude that she is trying to get stronger to protect the "weak". (And from Mikoto's audio, she was able to protect Es from getting hurt by him).
Kotoko sees herself as a wolf, or in other words: a protector. Hallow meaning she is a saint/holy person, and a wolf, a protector of children. 1:26-1:53, she finds out where one abuser is hiding and beats him up. She doesn't kill him, saying "I'll teach you the pain you caused". She doesn't accept their apologies, even after they say "I didn't mean to offend," or "I won't do it again."
1:49, (if someone could translate the article, please do!) She hears about something that really gets on her nerves, wondering what the punishment will be. She ends up losing it, and the punishment ends up being death. This is her first kill. She smiles and seems to relish in it.
Whether Kotoko was abused or not as a child is unclear, but I believe the possibility is more than likely. Having been neglected and abused as a child myself, this song REALLY spoke to my heart. She often sings about how many dreams must be damaged (0:14, 1:12, 2:07, 3:02) so perhaps she wanted to be someone else when she got older? She didn't want to become someone who had to fight the evil in the world; however, since she "sweared", (0:08, 1: 06,...) that is all she is doing.
0:30 - "Stained emotions. What is winning or losing" Kotoko probably has depression (she feels hollow inside). The only thing she feels is the thrill of beating up child abusers, and reading (0:54) "the surrounding net covered with poison". She clearly feels distressed about it, having to imagine the things she had already been through. 0:42, 2:02, she explains how she doesn't believe she is normal.
All in all, Kotoko is a girl who is suffering from depression from abuse as a child. She feels "HOLLOW" inside. Her dreams have been shattered. She has nothing to believe in other than the swears she took upon herself to protect the children from evil. She finds herself becoming a beast, or a "HALLOW" for them. Who then happens to be "HARROWING" out the 'weeds' of society, believing what she is doing is right.
[ And, if someone is able to translate 0:37-0:43, 1:26, 1:52, and 2:19 that would be great! :) ]
Sorry if my analysis is outta order/chaotic. This was a fun song to go through.
This is definitely how I thought of it too! I really love how detailed this theory is, I too really want to know the translations for the news ,•__• I think she might just be targeting one person tho. She had multiple people on her board but when she found the first guy she only beat him up (she had no fangs yet) so I think she just got info from him. When she finds her target she kills him and gets her “fangs”. I heard this fang metaphor from another theory. I think yours makes a lot of sense, sorry if I’m just adding confusion or anything. I didn’t mean to invalidate your theory in anyway.
Thank you, ^^
And no, you're not confusing me or making it sound like you're invadlidating my theory! You have a good point that she could be targeting only one person since she ultimately killed one at the end because she got info from him. I just don't think that was the case because she says "losing it" (can't pinpoint where atm ^^" but somewhere near the end of the song), and she just happened to have a breaking point where she lost complete control. And to add, on the bullet board she had multiple faces of men... but not sure if she got info from them either. Not invalidating your theory, either. It's a good one! :)
I don't think she's only after child abusers. The newspapers are about scams, robberies (the guy at 1:30 robbed an old lady and pushed her causing her to break her hand) and one guy taking up-skirt-shots at a train station. The guy at the end is apparently guilty of killing 10 people in 2 years (a new record!) and the sign by the road is asking for information about a hit-and-run that happened there that he also was responsible for. I don't think she killed anyone until she got to that guy who to be fair, someone should murder if he hasn't gone to jail even though he must be one of the most efficient serial killers in history.
@@CanIswearinmyhandle Okay, thay makes much more sense. Thanks for the clear up about the newspapers :) I guess I'll have to think of something new for the mean time
コトコが義憤に駆られて悪人を単身裁くようになったきっかけは、目の前で「誰かの夢が止まる」光景を過去に目撃してしまったからかもしれない
二審楽曲MVが出た時の反応が「赦さない」一辺倒になるかもしれないのがとても怖い。
罪の内容に目を向けていない人が現時点ではあまりに多すぎる。確かに内容は衝撃が大きいものだったけれど、それにつられて罪に目を向けられないのは本末転倒では。
いや、これが狙ったものなのかもしれない。色眼鏡で見ないよう自戒したいところ。
追記)赦そうが赦さまいがどちらになっても構わないが、インターバル中の出来事と二審楽曲が出た時点で、ただその雰囲気だけで判断を下す人がとても多い印象を抱いている。
もう少し立ち止まって考えてはどうか。例えば、一審楽曲を振り返る、恐らく二審楽曲の対となっているであろうアンダーカバーを今一度振り返ってみる、とか。
それ。俺は赦す。
kotoko is GUILTY of having the best milgram song. this is a bop
y'all remember when she used to be milgram's best girl? me too.
Feel so bad for Mahiru Fuuta and Amane...
still is
i ahve mixed feelings about her but i still love her
things were really simpler back then, huh?
Still best girls for me, bad guys should be punish no matter their ages or status. Tell me did u forgive mass shooting because she is a cute 12 years old ? Or a rap**r becase he is famous ? F NO, somehow I agree with kotoko "eyes for eyes" way.
最初らへんは「この牙で抉るよ」だったけど最後らへんで「この牙で抉りたい」だったからどんどん人を殺すのが好きになってって「抉りたい(殺したい)」という願望が歌詞に出てきてるのかなとかいう考察もどき。コトコちゃんかわいい最高。
トレーラーが公開されてから約1年半
ずっとずっと待ってた最高がここにある...
ただただかっこいい...
何回も見てるうちになんとなく考えがまとまってきました。
2:40 位からのコトコ突入シーンですがコトコが犯人を撲殺しながらフラッシュバックが入ります。交通事故の立て看板、ハンマーを振り下ろす人、ハンマーと死体、縛られた女の子と人影(ハンマーを振り下ろしていた人？)が順に出てきます。
女の子についてはコトコが助けに来た子とは服装も髪型も違うため、コトコの幼い頃かと思われます。始めはハンマーを振り下ろす人がコトコを縛り付けた犯人かとも思いましたがそれだとコトコはほぼ確実に殺されてるはずですし、何よりハンマーを振り下ろす姿が犯人を撲殺する大人コトコか重なって見えたためコトコを助けに来た人間(正義のヒーロー)だったのではと考えました(死体が犯人)。
交通事故の看板は解釈の仕方は多く考えられますがコトコが縛られ暴力に曝されるきっかけを表しているんじゃないかと思います。(家族が死んだことによる家庭内暴力など)
そして頻繁に登場する狼ですが日本に狼信仰が存在したようにコトコにとっての目指す神(正義)を表しているのではないでしょうか。最後の立ち止まった時の先導するように寄り添った狼はコトコを助けた人を表し、同じ道を歩めている歓喜から笑っていたのだと思います。
これは完全に想像の域を出ないですがコトコは「正しさに溺れていたい」という歌詞の最後のように子供のように正義のヒーローを目指しており、それがキックを主に使っていることや苦しみなどを表す「HARROW」という単語を観なければHELLOにしか聞こえない歌詞にも現れていると感じました。
MILGRAMは１０人それぞれにの罪についてのコンセプトがあると思いますが、コトコは「悪の怪人を殺す(倒す)正義のヒーローは正しいのか」それを問われてる気がします。
＊自分はエスとの共闘が見たいのでinnocentを連打しておりますが。
読み辛い長文失礼いたしました。
そろそろ曲来るかな？って思ってた時に来た！！
コトコ、ミルグラムのキャラの中で人間味がある方だし、謎多い感じだから凄い楽しみ！！
【追記】
シンプルにかっこよすぎて、考察することを忘れて、普通のアニソンを聴いてる気分ですね笑笑
これは考察しがいがありそうですね、、
途中途中に出てくるオレオレ詐欺と殺人事件が関係してるのかが分からんな、、
殺人事件の犯人を見つけて最後コトコが〇しちゃったんだろうけど、殺人事件でコトコの大切な人が〇されたのか？何か関係はあるはず、
第二審で分かったけどマジでコトコしゃんはミルグラムの中で一番赦してはいけない人物やな
自分はコトコしゃんのPVとかボイドラもじっくり見て聞いて考察はしていたけど絶対赦しちゃいけないなぁって思って投票はしていたけどまさかの赦すになるなんて…
聞いている限り反省の色というか途中から明らかに正義に快楽によって正常じゃなくなっているしPVでも見ると自分の為に守っているようにも感じて少し怖かった…
なのに何故赦されてしまったのか未だに謎
他のコメでも言われてはいるけれどフータくんも正義感に強くて自分の行いを反省しているのにも関わらず赦されないってのも謎やし可哀想…
次の第二審でも赦さないに投票するつもりです(dyコトコしゃん推し)
推してるのにか？
@@Hongou-Kazuto推し＝赦せるでは無いでしょw
悪役キャラが好きな人もいるしw
The fact that the story is so straightforward makes me think that she's painting herself in a positive light and what she's done is more sinister. Pretty sure there's more too this
まじで待ちくたびれたぐらいよ😭
ありがとう無事に出来上がってくれて…
運営さん感謝いたします🥲
A part of me feels that she's too perfect to be innocent. Again, the MVs and music are based on the prisoner's thoughts. So this MV might just be Kotoko painting herself in a positive light because she's completely convinced herself that she has done nothing wrong and that the scene at the end of her killing the girl's abuser is an illusion she created for herself.
Forgiven or not, either way, she's best girl.
idk if you saw but kotoko beated up all the guilty people after the results, almost killing Mahiru in the process. Which is very yikes of her to do.
@@storybloxs3497 mahiru is so lucky that people were hypnotised enough to vote shidou as innocent
語彙力ないから上手く伝えられないんだけど、愛美さんの歌声の魅力が最大限引き出されててなおかつちゃんとコトコの歌声なの本当に天才……
リニューアルしたHPでコトコがやったことを知って、ちょっと「ひえ…」ってなったわ。
赦さない判断は私達がやったことではあるけど、違う、そうじゃない感がすごい
コトコのキャストを愛美さんにした人ガチで天才だと思う
pre MV observation: kotoko has beautiful eyes 💕💕 also for those who havent listened to the song yet: it's a banger, you'll love it
I mainly relied on the Twitter translation function but here’s Kotoko’s interview:
Q1: After all who are you?
A: Yuzuriha Kotoko. Someone who plans to fight for your safety. Well that's up to you too
Q2: Can you speak any language other than Japanese?
A: English. If it's just everyday basics, then I speak a little Mandarin and Korean too.
Q3: Would you forgive other prisoners if they had committed the same crime as you?
A: Of course. I believe what I did was the right thing, didn't I tell you this before?
Q4: When did you start learning martial arts?
A: In elementary school, maybe. Without enough power, you can't do justice and you can't do the right thing, can you?
Q5: How do you spend your time in prison?
A: Training and meditating
Q6: Which prisoner are you most interested in?
A: It's hard to say. Now, if it's about a character I can't quite understand, it would be Kazui with his strong sense of intellectual curiosity.
Q7: What do you do in college?
A: For a while I studied law. There's something I want to do so I took a break from studying.
Q8: Tell us about your family structure
A: grandma, dad, mom, big brother
Q9: Which prisoner do you think is most like you?
A: Hard to say. Your actions are always outside my scope of reasoning. Wouldn't the most similar to me be Fuuta? Even if at the same time he looks the most different from me.
Q10: What do you think of the word "femininity"?
A: It's one of the means you can take. It's something you can freely choose depending on the scene, so it's not something to cling to.
最高ありがとう…これで10人揃いましたね…最後の第一審、どうなるか楽しみにしてます！！
正義感が強すぎるのもあるかもしれないけど、他の悪人を裁いてるのは自分の探してる悪人を裁くために心を正常に安定させるための行動やったりするんかな
自分が悪を捌くことで世界は平和に近づくっていつてるけど｢悪を捌く｣っていう名前のヒトゴロシにちょっとハマってそう
過去に泣き寝入りの経験があって、最初は正義感から自分でいろんな事件について調べてたのかな？
「正しさに溺れていたい」っ歌詞をみるに最後は過剰な制裁に快感覚えちゃったようにみえるけど…
フータくんも正義振りかざすタイプだったけど、後から後悔、恐怖？があったフータくんと違って、コトコちゃんは今でも自分は正しいことをしたって信じてそうなイメージ
考察とか何にも出来ないのでみんなのコメント見て「あーなるほど」しか言えないけど
私これだけは言える
あいみん最高
あとカッコ良すぎる
あいみん呼びとそのアイコンはブシロの民ですね、宜しくお願いします(？)
@@No-ii7do
よろしくお願いします(？)
コトコちゃんの家族構成がわからないからあれだけど、この交通事故の被害者がコトコちゃんの妹だったりしないかな？
それじゃなくても自分の仲の良かった子が殺されて、それが原因でこの事件に関係していそうな事件を調べていたりしそう。（情報屋から情報を買ってるくらいだから相当この事件にこだわっているんだと思う）
普通の顔をしてても、コトコちゃんの心はボロボロなのかも。
だから泣きたくても泣けなくて笑ってしまうのかもしれないし、最初にアイマスクをつけていたのもあの裏で泣いていて、最後のシーンは泣き笑いしているのかもしれない。
I like how nobody rly caught on, until after the first trial, that she's just has Light's philosophy from Death Note?
個人的にコトコ復讐説を推していきたいのでその根拠と考察を書いていきます(滅茶苦茶長いです)
・3:02からの所で殺された少女と拘束されている少女が写っている→拘束されている少女がコトコで目の前で友達か家族を殺された。ミルグラムの映像は本人の記憶からつくられるのでその少女がコトコじゃないのは可能性低い気がする。その少女がコトコに依頼した説もなくは無いが可能性激薄。
・コトコがボードで○を付けていた人物＝「女児10人殺害の箱入り息子」＝最後に殺していた男＝3:02の回想シーンの男→髪型や服装的に多分そう。ボードのシーンから本気で探していた事が分かる。
・他の犯罪者も殺してない？→殺してはない。多分暴行だけ。そんな殺してたらどこぞの男みたいに揉み消さない限り一瞬で捕まる。
コトコが蹴った男も出所しては窃盗などの犯罪を繰り返していたようなので犯罪を繰り返すという点でロリコン男との共通点を感じ制裁を加えた。これに関しては復讐とは全く関係ないので、ここら辺から法的には許されたがクズな犯罪者を追い詰めることに快感を覚えている節がある。だかあくまで目標はロリコン男への復讐。
・蹴られ男とロリコン男以外この様な事をしている描写はない→「犯罪者を見つけては制裁を加えていたが、快感を覚える様になり殺してしまった」はない気がする。それならもっと色んな人を追い詰めてる描写があるはず。
以上の事からコトコは復讐目的でロリコン男を殺し、男を蹴っていた描写は「常日頃犯罪者に制裁を加えていた事」を表すものではなく、「ロリコン男への復讐を目指していたが標的を追い詰めることに快感を覚え始めていた事(明らかに不要な寄り道)」を表していたのではないかと思います。狼もその表現かな。この考察通りなら自分としては赦すつもりです。正義に溺れている、行きすぎた正義であるといった意見がちらほらある様ですが復讐説が本当なら正義と思ってやってはないと思います。法的に連続殺人ロリコン男を裁く事はできず、コトコの行動は必要悪だった思いますし立場的にも殺したいと思っても仕方ないと思うからです。復讐だったら人殺していいのか？と言われれば、勿論法的にはダメですがここミルグラムにおいては赦してもいいんじゃないかと…コトコが殺さなければもっと犠牲となった人も増えてたと思いますし。ただ追い詰める事に快感を覚えている様なのはよくないので焦点は①復讐で殺人者を殺すのは赦されるのかと②追い詰める事に快感を覚えていたのは赦されるのか の2つですかね
自分で挙げるのもなんですが復讐説の疑問点
・連続殺人親の七光りロリコン野郎について雑誌で「2年間で10人殺害」とあるのでコトコの友達が一人目だったとしても、コトコは2年間で拘束されてる時の幼そうな見た目から今の見た目まで成長している事になる。おかしい。←あくまで雑誌の情報であるので本当はもっと前にも殺人があった可能性や男の親の情報統制によって疑われないほど完璧に揉み消された可能性が考えられる。
If you notice, during some of the flashing scenes in the beginning, it shows the same maroon-haired guy at the end, as well as what I can only assume to be a younger Kotoko.
My theory is that, the guy who Kotoko murdered in the end, is the same guy who kidnapped her at a younger age, since the maroon-haired guy had kidnapped another child-like victim. In the second flash near the end, you see a different girl (supposedly young Kotoko when she was kidnapped) all tied up.
I assume that Kotoko feels like she, a survivor, must be the leader of her pack and be the "voice" of people who were kidnapped just like her. She kills the kidnapper who kidnapped her and the other young girl, with her goal being accomplished. I don't think she killed anyone other than the kidnapper because her main goal was to look for the kidnapper. You can see, near the bottom right of the corkboard, there is a circled face who you can slightly tell he has maroon-colored hair, resembling the guy at the end.
She is checking the news and looking at recent crimes to see if she can spot out any similar actions of the guy she aims to kill.
With the lyrics, "Let’s end this! “HARROW HARROW” / I can’t forgive the evil hurting the weak / It’s unforgivable, I won’t allow it, I sweared" perhaps meaning she sweared to take revenge? Harrow means something like despair, then meaning "lets end this "despair"", regarding her traumatic experience?
Also! Must mention that Kotoko is the first of the prisoners who has a long-term intent to kill someone specific. She's been hunting this guy with full intent to kill them, and it's a specific person--compared to the other prisoners.
I personally forgive Kotoko. She avenged her younger self and killed the kidnapper. Good on you, Kotoko! What do you guys think?
Good theory and I also thought the same while watching
So hyped for the last soundtrack in the first trial!! This will definitely be a banger and maybe shocking as well! There could be a plot twist during the story or something like that, who knows
Honestly I'm just really curious because the song is already out... so we can confirm there's no twist like Mikoto's! But there's that feeling of something being there, for sure.
@@asha_013 I gotta check out the song then haha. And yeah, there's gotta be something in this mv! I think they could add something symbolic to represent rebelion, justice, etc or maybe a look into her mind and how/why she does what she does.
@@chopper3726 It's on spotify! :)
I think Koto-chan is gonna do the opposite of Miko. As in, since Miko showed his crimes straight-forwardly and threatened us, maybe Koto will hide her crimes to show us she's 'right' and butter us/try to get the innocent vote.
@@asha_013 ooh yeah that's probably going to happen.. Also, I'll be sure to check it out, thx!
@@chopper3726 :D
in the voice drama there is a really interesting words said by kotoko, when Es is talking about whether all of them are guilty or not kotoko said "your role is not only to judge their guilt, but also found out who is innocent". this actually says that she truly understand what is she doing and what will it caused. However she lost of the sense of how precious a life is, she dont think killing someone is a guilt, thats why she only focus on whether a person is guilty or not and excluding the action of killing since killing is just a tool.
エスver.聴きたいから早く100万いってくれーー！！
正直、コトコが一番共感できる。
人を殺すことに正義感を見いだしちゃうのはダメだけど、何故か共感できる。
トレーラーボイスの"賭け引き"
アンダーカバーの"命を使って消したいものがある"って歌詞
全てが繋がった気がする
考察捗る〜コトコちゃんすき🥲
MV待ってました！！！
楽しみに待ちます！！
ほんとにほんとに待ってました😭😭😭
コトコちゃん楽しみすぎます🤭💖💖💖💖
The sudden jump in views after S2 from people rewatching thinking about what went wrong
｢正しさに溺れたい｣自分が正しいってやってることは正義なんだってそう言い聞かせてるふうに聞こえる。
最初は犯人が許せなくて殺してたけど、いつの間にか殺す事が目的になってた感じですかねぇ
歌詞のやらせないは自分が殺したいから他の人には殺らせない的な
ガチの「犯罪者」って感じだ...
声優さんが「コトコはやばい」的な事をどこかで言っていたし、
やっぱり何回も罪を犯してるんだろうなぁ....
コトコちゃんは自分のしていることは正しいことで間違っていないって思ってるのかな、最後の演出が人を×す味を覚えた、という捉え方もできるから赦す赦さないだと赦さない方がいいのかもしれない...。
いやにしても可愛いな...顔好き声好き歌好きオオカミ可愛い、赦しちゃおうかな...かわいい....
外国の方のファンの方が多いw
ミルグラムを好きな人がたくさんいる
ってことだからうれしいけどさ！
そしてコトコがかっこよすぎるんだよ、
本当に最高だね。(*´∇｀*)
コメ欄英語が多くてビビりました笑
The fact that she basically says she wants to be validated by being told she’s in the right now makes so much sense with that happens after the first trial
何で見たかは忘れたしネットの情報だから正しいか分かんないけど、
狼は一匹だとそんなに強くなくて、群れるとめっちゃ強いらしい
Waiting for the smart people to write their cool theories in the comments
kotoko's voice is so.. beautiful
このシリーズほんとに表情が素晴らしいと思いますまる。
すごい……
映像に夢中になってました…！！
続きが欲しいです、、笑
Kotoko's MV seems to revolve around her tracking or hunting down criminals that she finds online and/or someone told her about, before acting as an unknown vigilante and punishing said criminals as she fits.
At first, she did purely out of the goodness in her heart to hunt down evil-doers that the police or local authorities have either let go or yet to catch. But as the hunt went on, her motive or reason for hunting down these criminals had changed.
From being the unknown vigilante that gives them the punishment they deserve, to a hunter that purely just wants to hunt someone down. In her own pursuit of Justice, she began to lose herself in the process. Slowly becoming a hunter driven by bloodlust or the thrill of participating in a hunt.
In the opening scene where Kotoko wears a blindfold and seemingly refuses to remove it, the lines "I want to be drowning in the knowledge that I am right", "Losing it, losing it, losing it" and "What should I hope for", and the scene where she looks like she had barely gotten any sleep can all signify that with each and every hunt she had made, she loses her sense of reason and herself each time, and/or that she refuses to see the world for what it truly is.
Kotoko knows that killing a person is wrong, that's why she had tried avoiding doing it on her previous hunts. She only got the criminals beaten up, but as she kept hunting criminals down, her mind slowly began to break down to the point where she had rationalized the idea of killing in her mind. She was uncertain about her actions and decisions. Uncertain about the morality of her actions.
Until she had finally accepted that she had changed, that her drive for chasing down criminals had changed. From trying to protect the weak. to enjoying the thrill of hunting down a criminal and being able to punish them herself. Kotoko's motive had changed over time. After staring into the abyss, the abyss had gazed back onto Kotoko.
MV公開前から何度か聞いてたけど「正しさに溺れていたい」って意味がようやくわかったわ…うぁーこれ悩む、赦す…赦さない…難しいなぁこれ
We are approaching the end of the first trial. I wonder if they're going to release a trailer for the 2nd trial.
彼女の正義を暴走させるのは危険だと思う
とても独りよがりで短絡的に感じるなあ
Something interesting with this MV thumbnail is that you only see kotoko's eye.
In other character MV you would always see a thumbnail with at least the whole face showing.
Not in this one.
I haven't really thought of any theorie, just wanted to pinpoint that out.
I was thinking the same !!! And also why are the prisoners arranged in this order? I know smth abt them being divided in two who has the same kind of case like
num 3/4 , mu the bullied and futa the bully
num 9/10 mikoto the criminal kotoko the cop
And it goes on
@@shiroyay I’ve seen a theory that said the prisoners are divided based on how guilty they feel for what they did. For example, Futa is the 3rd and u could see he was shocked in his MV. While Kotoko here doesn’t feel any regret or remorse from what she did as she is placed the last. (The reason why I didn’t choose Haruka and Yuno cause it wasn’t very obvious and after that second trial it’d be rather confusing) But with the thumbnail theory? I still have no idea either but it seems interesting!
@@monolinny1817 hmmm sounds interesting indeed
Hope this trial shows us more abt it