今気づいた… 0:24 weak→弱肉共食 0:45 Bring it,→事変上等 0:50 The pain’s〜,after→アフターペイン 1:26 throw down→スローダウン 1:31 this is how to be in love→愛なんですよ 1:36 half in, half out,→half 1:41 The magic→おまじない 2:19 about Me Me I’ve→MeMe 2:24 Hallowing,→HALLOW 英訳めっちゃ凝ってる… ユノちゃんだけないの気になる。 映像でもフューチャー言ってたし、ユノはエスが「大衆の依代的存在」であることに 気づいてるから、あえて言わせてない…？
gracias por hablar de las siluetas. la silueta perteneciente a Fuuta me confunde. al ser el pecado de Fuuta algo más indirecto resulta difícil de interpretar la silueta
In Es's voice drama, it's revealed that there's an eleventh prison cell that's left unoccupied. Combining this with Es's lost memories leads me to think that there's a link between the two. If you look at the commonalities between the prisoners, each one has a song of their own, a cover of another one of Deco*27's songs, as well as a voice drama, which for some reason applies to Es but doesn't apply to Jackalope. From some of the other prisoners' voice dramas, we find out that Es gets violent with some of the other prisoners. It's quite likely that Es is the last prisoner.
Yes and they also hold like a cube in the beginning with 00 written on it and there were like other cubes too from 01 to 10 so maybe Es is like the 0th prisoner or like an other theory in this comment section the one that has been killed through different dimensions
@@raijin8049 bit late to the party but if you look at 0:18 you can clearly see 11 of those cubes, one for every prisoner and that with the fact that Es opens 000
I'm new here and reading all these advance theories are giving me headaches for someone who just started at step 1, but all seriousness aside, this song is a bop tho and sure will the next ones
I think Es is the personification of their sins. If you look closely around 2:50 the person being hurt/murdered is always them, and Es could not possibly be murdered by all of them. For example, one of the silhouettes (which I understand is Mu) is holding a cutter against the victim, and in Mu's PV she murders a girl the same way. This is a bit of a strech but in Psychology 'Es' is the abreviation of Estimulous, something that changes the behaviour or makes someone react in a certain way. Maybe Es is called that way because they are the reason why the others are being judged, the "turning point" that it's going to determine the rest of their lives.
I think that scene is just the prisoners committing their crimes but their victim is replaced with es. Also, might be a stretch but es is the German way to say id which might be a nod to the id ego and superego theory with how much the word ego is mentioned
I also noted that Yuno 'Es' is well...lying between her legs. Knowing her trial theme is "Abortion" and the people she killed is "Her Childrens". It's as if 'Es' become the representation of her babies
2:08 Boy sitting on a bed in a children bedroom = Haruka Girl walking through an alley = Kotoko Girl standing idk what to write = Yuno Boy sleeping in front of a screen = Mikoto Someone taking a pic of a home = Futa Person lying on the ground = Amane Girl lying on the school floor = Muu Idk how to describe the this = Shidou Person kneeing outside = Kazui Holding hands idk = Mahiru
Here's a little thing about the lyrics, every time Es transition to one prisoner, after the line 'UNDER', the lyrics are as if sang by the prisoner. If you watch the cast introduction, it's similar.
(Edited again after Kotoko 2nd Trial) Another theory, this time overarching the prisoners. As previously mentioned, the prisoners seem to come in pairs, even in release dates. Jackalope explicitly stated the numbers are important somehow. We have yet to learn why, but here’s my thoughts on that. The prisoner’s rooms are arranged in a clock formation, from 000 to 010, and a hallway at the end for the common rooms. Now divide the clock into 6 parts, 2 prisoners in each part (except 000 and the hallway) Each part represents a ‘theme’ of murder: 001-002 = *Family/Attention* (Haruka the Starved Child, Yuno the Tired Parent) 003-004 = *Manipulation* (Futa the Scapegoated Follower, Mu the Arrogant Initiator) 005-006 = *Timeless Love/Passion* (Shidou, trapped in Love Left Behind, Mahiru stuck in Love That Could've Been) 007-008 = *Promises/Commitment* (Kazui the Self-Denying Breaker, Amane the Stubbornly Committed) 009-010 = *Fight or Flight* (Mikoto the Self in Constant Flight, Kotoko the Self-Serving Fighter) As for 000 & the hallway, the theme for them is not direct murder. I think the theme is Bystander. 000 the Deciding Audience/Judge, and the common areas the Helpless Participant/Verdict. I will explain the additional descriptions in a reply. This comment will update after each trial. MAJOR EDITS over the years: - 004's label - 005/006's THEME and labels - 007/008's labels - 009/010's labels
Good catch! I knew something was up with the pairings, but I couldn't figure out what until this comment. It also made me consider something odd that I had noticed, but had dismissed until now. Now, throughout the project, the prisoners have been presented in numerical order; Haruka comes first, then Yuno, then Futa, etc. This has been an invariable constant. EXCEPT for 2:08-2:15, where the scenes for each prisoner are shown in an entirely new order: Haruka, Kotoko, Yuno, Mikoto, Futa, Amane, Mu, Shidou, Kazui, Mahiru This pattern is, as far as I can tell, never repeated elsewhere, and the fact that the scenes are shown again mere seconds later in the "proper" order suggests this was not just an oversite. I had no idea what this new order could mean, but your comment did give me an idea: perhaps this new order is meant to indicate secret, hidden pairings between the cast. What those pairings mean, I'm not entirely sure, but it could be worth looking into.
I see a lot of comments about the last prisoner being Es, but I don't think that's all there is to it. I say they're representing a much larger group, like how the prisoners each represent wider issues-teen pregnancy and abortion, bullying, growing up in a cult, etc. So yes, Es is a prisoner, but the prisoner they're representing? It's us. The audience. The power of public opinion is a double-edged blade. On one hand, people can be really supportive. They can raise cash for charities, they can volunteer for relief after major disasters, or even help an old lady cross the street. On the other hand, people are absolute monsters. Take every single bullying situation where an entire class gangs up on a single person, a bunch of people canceling someone online, or maybe an entire city marginalizing social minorities. In this case, Milgram is harnessing the power of social opinion to judge whether the prisoners should be condemned or forgiven, but is it really our place to? Frankly, we're not the ones they killed. We're not even related to the ones they killed. But we have a say in whether or not they should be forgiven. Us, as total strangers? To put in perspective, imagine if your mother was murdered. You love her, she loves you, you have a happy and healthy relationship, and then all of a sudden, she's gone. Her murderer is put on trial. The circumstances regarding the murder are unclear enough that it's a fifty-fifty on whether the murderer is declared guilty or walks free from self defense. Somehow, the case blows up and now the whole nation knows and has their opinions on it. You listen to their comments everyday, speculating. Maybe your mother deserved to be murdered. Maybe the fault lies elsewhere. Maybe the murderer should be forgiven. Maybe the murderer isn't bad, but another victim. Whatever the case, it all boils down to this: you have a bunch of strangers butting in on something that's not their business and trying to influence the outcome of the case. Similarly, we're doing the same thing as the audience. We're breaching the privacy of the prisoners by looking into their thoughts via the mv's and we're the ones judging their crimes despite not being related to them. So again, is it really our place to judge them?
I really like how you write this. This is an interesting perspective. I always wonder about this myself too. Before I judge someone, I always asks myself: "Am I even better?" I still make sins. Sure, not to the extent of murder like the prisoners, but that still doesn't mean I should feel righteous. That's why I like the lines sung by Es from this song. "Is it really okay to be done deciding with just your Ego?" It's true. We judge mostly from our Ego. I can't wait to see how this project will go from here. If it actually inspired from the real Milgram experiment, then it's likely we're the subjects here.
THIS. milgram's whole point isn't about guilty or not, but forgive or not. they constantly talk about forgiveness and even the voting system is based on condoning.
I'm not the best at making theories but here's my attempt. If there's anything you'd like to add, please let me know. Everything in this MILGRAM project represents something. 000-ES: The audience. Are we in the right to judge? 001-HARUKA: Maturity. People laugh when you're acting immature. 002-YUNO: Teenage pregnancy. Is it pro-life or anti-choice? 003-FUTA: Cancelling. At what point does justice become a criminal offense? 004-MU: Bullying. 005-SHIDOU: Hopelessness. 006-MAHIRU: Stalking. Doxxing has taken this one even further. 007-KAZUI: Neglect. 008-AMANE: Religion. 009-MIKOTO: Identity. Are you really the same person you claim to be in the eyes of others? 010-KOTOKO: Justice. And I only need four letters to tell you exactly what this has to do with the real world: ACAB. JACKALOPE: Society itself. Always watching, always silently judging. Except we're pretty much a whole bunch of these characters combined in some way or another.
You've summed it up so well. There's a child in my life who has such strong opinions on subjects she doesn't even understand. Everything is black and white to her and it scares me whenever she talks to me about, say, how someone deserves to lose their job, their life, everything, after bullying someone. But that's the thing. What if the "bully" was never even a bully at all? We're not the "bully". We're not the "victim", either. So why do you think it is your place to judge so matter-of-factly? And it isn't just her, either. There are millions of other children, just like her, banding together to blindly play God with other peoples' business.
OK so I'm a psychology student and i noticed a lot of references to popular psychological theories in this series. Of course the Prison or the whole project is called "MILGRAM", a study about authority. BUT that is not what i want to focus about in my little theory here. The prison guards name or "the audience" is called ES, which is the german word for Id in the outdated but still popular structural model of personality by Freud. He argues our psychological apparatus is made up of three parts, ID (Desires, repressed memories, etc.), the EGO (the mediator between Id and super-ego and the only aspect which has a connection to the outside world) and the super-ego (morals, oftentims restricting a lot of desires of the Id). In this song we are asked "You get to know them, tie them with THEIR Ego" and later on "Is it really okay to be done with deciding with just YOUR EGO?". This stood out for me, the EGO is the part that mediates, the part that lets through some desires, represses some cause of the super-ego etc. We - so our ego - decide upon the fates/who is forgiven or not. So maybe it is also a Test for the protagonist ES to decide which cases the super-ego finds okay or which cases don't. A Test of the EGO you might say, which tests ES desires to forgive/not forgive and their super-egos alignment. Because remember, the EGO is the one mediating between the Id/EGO and the super-ego. Because we still dont really know much about the prison guard ES itself. Maybe ES is tested upon their own morals using Freuds psychoanalytic understanding of our psychological structure. But these are just my ramblings i thought about watching this video. Sorry if this might sound confusing at times, English is my second language. :)
And another thing, why do I notice this just now? Everytime a prisoner is shown there, Es says "UNDER", which would normally be something the Ego would do, the ego suppresses desires, not the ES. So its really intriguing why the so called ES here is seeing all these sins and is saying "under" (suppression). It doesn't Really fit in to the role of an ES and more of an ego. Oh im so interested into this whole project and how es relates to the characters or maybe - symbolizations of some type of sins? Archetypes of something the Es wants but is suppressed by something higher? Ah so many interesting possibilities. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but it's a really interesting project.
Hi, i'm a psicology student too. Thank u, you are the only who talk about Freud's structural model of personalities and reading this i feel less alone lol, I thought i was the one who noticed that. I know i'm very late for this game but i found about it 3 days ago rip.
Anyone else notice how Kazui seems to be the only one (with the exception of Yuno who's just holding a knife over Es's body, we don't see her harming them directly) who isn't touching the Es body in any sort of harmful way in the final sequence? Haruka has his hands around Es's throat, Futa is roughing Es up, Mu appears to be stabbing Es (its hard to tell?), Shidou looks as if he's physically ripping out an organ?? Mahiru is supporting Es's fallen body, however she does have her arms around their neck, symbolizing how she strangled her partner in their relationship with her overattachment. Amane is beating Es with a bat, Mikoto is beating Es from behind with a bat, and Kotoko is kicking Es (presumably to death). Kazui is on his knees, holding Es's body and seems to be in distress. Kazui seems to be the most innocent if you solely watch Undercover alone. With Undercover and Half, I still firmly hold Kazui innocent.
Hey do you know where i can find these images because they go by too fast in the video and even when paused i cant make out all the details and cant see who's who (except kazui, that one was obvious)
something intresting to add, I saw a theory on twitter about how Futa might not have been directly the murderer, but was most likely scapegoated aswell as gaslighted into being a murderer, till he believed it himself. While he was part of the group, he was not the main person who caused the death of the person. You note that they are "roughing" es up, which doesnt mean they killed them, but did cause some damage. Haruka-well we saw the entire strangling his child self thing, whatever that means(murder,probably) Yuno-Abortion, presumably with a knife.(Not murder, unless you're one of those people who believe abortion is murder, or you live in a place where abortion IS murder.) Mu-well we saw that in the video.(murder) Shidou-Organs!(murder,unless you believe the theory that it wasnt directly organs he was taking, but rather knowledge on how to save a life, or whatever else he could be taking from a terminally ill patient or person in need of surgery.) Mahiru-Overattachment stuff(cause of death, but not murder) Amane-Cult shit (murder) Kazui-If we had to guess, Kazui did something that caused his wife stress to the point that they committed suicide. It might be cheating, or he might be working in a bar, or it might just be a normal lack of communication or Misunderstanding between them. (cause of death, but not murder) Mikoto-We saw that they obviously beat the fuck out of a person with a bat in like the first 10 seconds of the MV(murder) Kotoko-Well that video hasnt come out yet, but probably vigilante justice if i had to guess, probably killed.(murder)
@@matchari2712 Is it 100% abortion for Yuno. Because I don't remember exactly what's it called, but it's a type of manslaughter where a mother after giving birth because severely depressed and murder's her baby. It has a sentence of 5 years in Canada.
I can forgive fuuta that mean did some shit but even I think he don’t mean it to take it far and everything. Hes a lot remorseful in the second trial cause it’s a lot going for if you listen to the 2nd voice drama and his questions and anwser. Mikoto I can forgive but not John so you can say it’s 50/50
I just thought about it when reading the theory comments.. Maybe we’re the ones being tested? The Milgram experiment is something about obeying orders I guess . And we’re doing exactly what jacklope told us to do in the earlier videos. Watch the prisoners’ MVs and judge them, and most are doing as he told us to...
YeahOh Welp In real life, that’s the most likely answer~ But the votes aren’t asking “Guilty” or “Innocent” , in Japanese version , they’re asking if we would whether forgive them or not~ So I believe this is all to test peoples’ experience~ Most people tend to forgive the ones who went through similar to them so~ But I guess in real life they would have been given death penalty already as you said-- Edit- Typo
when you think about it, the rabbit told us to judge the prisoners without any explanation to why, or what would happen in the end. Es or any of the prisoners could get killed because of our votes for all we know yet we keep voting. The original experiment had 'a teacher', who would be the rabbit, a test subject, and an actor. If we're the ones being tested, then does that make the prisoners the actors..?
@@tvheadtrash_6936 the prisoners after the 3rd trial: you've been fooled! we were paid actors this whole time! es who suffered so much controlling a bunch of 'murderers':
I don’t know how I just found out about MILGRAM today, but I am so happy I got Mikoto’s song in my recommended. Es’s voice is really nice! I’ll definitely keep up with it from now on.
Kotokos 2nd trial vid finally came out and she mentions a number 11 prisoner as inept guard, most likely referring to Es. So maybe Es is seen as a prisoner as well?
Here is my theory that Es is one of the prisoners • At 2:39 we can see Es with a prisoner suit • The box that Es' holding have a number "000" • the room for prisoners have 11 rooms, 000 to 010 • while Es is sitting in these MV, there are 11 box around them. the other one is next near to them • in this music video, you can see that there no door iron bars for the prisoners, that means. Those full iron bars can be open by sliding it to the side or opening it to the top. Im not sure about this iron bars part because when I listened the Voice Drama of Es, before the prisoner's exit their rooms, there is this mechanical sound that can guess that these iron bars can be open by going it to top or sliding it by side - plus, Es mentioned that the room of 000 has no iron bars/lock that's what makes me think • And at the end of the MV, Es disappears and then Jackalope is the only one left, when the "000" box closed - probably mean that the box "000" is belong to a prisoner, and that is Es. I mean if its belong to Prison Guard, Jackalope should be disappear too I also have a theory that Es probably have connection with Mu • Because at Es' voice drama, while Jackalope introducing the prisoners to them. Es only remember Mu's name • Also before this MV ends, when Es' eyes get near, you can see Mu's reflection on
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地獄を観てきたから帰ってきた
エスと全囚人で歌っているアンダーカバーかと思ったら違ったし、マヒルにいたってはライブも演者が欠席だったため一度も聴けていない
でも、12月15日にはいたね。確実に
ハルカがいる……シドウさんも……マヒルもいる………
ｲﾙﾖ…ﾐﾝﾅｲﾙﾖ…（致命傷）
みんないる……よ……そうだよこれがホントのだよ……
It hurts listening to this, now
True
very real
Man
Agreed
It's kind of a good pain, but it is still pain.
アンダーカバー見比べに戻ってきたけど、歌詞聴いてたら囚人たちを許す許さないもそうだけど全てを知った俺たちは選択をした俺たち自身を許せるかな………になってて考察どころではないメンタルになってる
マヒルさんの監獄生活踏んだり蹴ったりすぎる、、
殺人も意図的じゃないって判明したしMVの笑顔見るだけでもう……(涙)
See? They're alive and well!
i agrees!
In the past, yes. xD
i remember wondering what this would sound like with the prisoners voices..........
RIGHT 😭 i never thought they would do it
@@limebeanz_ just without 3 of them 🥲
最新の動画が衝撃的すぎて本家見に来た。お願いだから生きててほしい😢
After the new video, it doesn't hit the same. It hurts...
Before it was “wow what a banger song” and now it’s “everything is in place…as it should be :,)”
今気づいた…
0:24 weak→弱肉共食
0:45 Bring it,→事変上等
0:50 The pain’s〜,after→アフターペイン
1:26 throw down→スローダウン
1:31 this is how to be in love→愛なんですよ
1:36 half in, half out,→half
1:41 The magic→おまじない
2:19 about Me Me I’ve→MeMe
2:24 Hallowing,→HALLOW
英訳めっちゃ凝ってる…
ユノちゃんだけないの気になる。
映像でもフューチャー言ってたし、ユノはエスが「大衆の依代的存在」であることに
気づいてるから、あえて言わせてない…？
全然気付かなかったです、、、すごい、、
うわ、英語でも歌詞がすごい…
エスって黒い手袋をしてるけど、黒い手袋って「私の穢れを見せたくない」っていう意味があるらしい…。
やっぱエスなんかあるわぁ…
小説読んできた直後のクソデカ感情のままコメントしてるんだけど、
「赦すなら共犯者」
「全てを知った僕はちゃんと赦せるかな」
がもうほんと天才のそれすぎて
共感
hey... at least they're still alive in this version...
I literally thought about the same thing just now 😭
2:38から（恐らく）エスに対して囚人たちが暴力を振るう様な描写があるのですが…
これを見て何となく思ったのが、
実はエスも囚人たちと同じく罪を犯した事のある人で、
囚人たちが最終的に赦されるか赦されないかが決定した後、
エスの罪に関する曲が公開されて、
囚人たち若しくは視聴者たちによって赦すか赦さないかを決められるんじゃないかな…と。
もし、囚人たちによって裁かれるのであれば、
エスが囚人たちに対してどのような判断を下していたか、
それによって彼らがどのような経験をして、どのような心境の変化があったのか、
そんな要素から囚人たちが下す判断が変わってきて、
最終的にエスが赦されるか否かが決まりそうだなーって。
ただ、エスの罪が彼らを自分勝手に裁いていたことだったりしたら、
エスを通して判決を下していた私たちもまた、囚人たちによって裁かれることになるから…
それもそれで面白そうだなと何となく妄想を…してしまいました…。
中性的な声だけど女性キャラの時はちょっと女性っぽく、男性キャラの時はちょっと男性っぽく聞こえる…すご…
第一審MV視聴前 「なんやこれみんなかっこいいやん！！こんなん無罪や！！」
第一審MV視聴後 「倫理観ぶっ飛んでる奴おるやんけ 赦さん」
無罪有罪から赦す赦さんになってるのファンになったって感じしてすこ
i can never watch this video the same way again
I'm scared n devastated 😭
ハルカの「赦すなら共犯者」ってムウのことだったのかな､､､
「ミルグラム」2周目説ってあるかな?最初のジャッカロープの反応といい空いている11番目の牢といい、エスはもともとは囚人で、唯一赦されたから2周目では記憶を消して「看守」役についた…っていうのがあってもおかしくない気がしてきた。
ジャッカロープ、いつもこうなんだって言ってましたし、それありそうですよね。
許すなら共犯者って歌詞あるし、許したらエスが11人目になるって可能性もある気がする
誰かを死刑にしたら殺した罪でエスはやっぱり11人目になるとか
全く同じこと考えてる人おったわ(最近どっぷりハマってきた新参)
一番最初に開けてた０番目の箱、それと同じ形で用意されたほかの10個の箱、やっぱり同じ「裁かれる」側の人間なんじゃないかなって僕も思いました
ちなみにその11番目の牢の描写ってどこですか？
@@N_mirra13 エスのCDのボイスドラマで聴けます！
ヒトゴロシにこんな感情を抱くとは思ってなかった
エスの声優さんの、男とも女ともつかない声質が、性別が分からないエスにあっててすごく好き。あと、歌い方もとても好き。
『痛いのはいつまで続くのかな』の音の切り方とか、『赦せるかなーｧｩｯｯ』(語彙力)みたいな切なそうな音の切り方がドツボすぎて。。
decoさんより、エスの声優さんには各キャラのパートはそのキャラの歌い方を真似て歌ってもらったそうです。素晴らしいですね。「さぁしっぽ巻いて黙ってどうぞ」とかわかりやすいですね。好きです。
最高かよおおおおお！
フータからムウの変わり方がわかりやすいですよね
(荒い感じから弱くなった感じが)
@@mtm9603 マヒルさんとかカズイおじも分かりやすい
DECO*27が1番
「僕」と書いて「あなた」って読むのはエス（僕）が視聴者（あなた）の意思を反映しているからかな
ふと思ったのですが
2:44で各キャラ達が殺した人物がエスに成り代わってるんですよね。そしてエスは『僕(あなた)』である。このことから……
もしもあなたが被害者だったとしたら、自分の人生を強制的に終わらせた人物を赦せるのですか？
という問いかけが入っている気がするのは私だけですか？？？
まぁミルグラムのアプリで自分達が赦すか赦さないかを投票するからってのもあると思うけどね
もしかして、0番であるエスは“まだ”罪を犯していないのかも知れない。しかしエスが間違ったジャッジを下すこと、つまり誤審は十分罪と呼べる。十人の囚人の罪について歌っているのは、今から自分が犯すかもしれない罪(誤審)に彼らの罪が関わっていて、エスの罪は自分自身の因縁ではなく一方的な審判の結果であるからと推測できる。
おいおい、当たってるぞ...。
Someone dying on milgram is not on my 2025 wishlist..but hey.. at least we got T3 right..?
これを後々「ああ、こんなところに伏線が…あんなところにも…」とか思いながら聴くんだろうなあ
せやなぁ…
それも楽しみ…ww
そう考えると聴く回数倍ぐらいに増えそうですねw
てか考察と勉強のために10回か20回は絶対聞いてるんだよな
間違いない！
今後に期待したいですね！
2:36 でみんなニヤッてするとこ好き
2:46
よくよく見返したら、ユノのシルエットが堕胎っぽくないなあという
どう見ても産み落としてる…
描画上こっちの方が伝わりやすいからなのかもしれないけど、
ユノがTear Dropで
「赦しちゃっていい感じ？あたしは違うのに」って言ってるのもあって、普通の堕胎じゃない気がしてきた
もしかしたら医療機関受診して堕ろした訳じゃなくて、トイレとかで自分で産んだのかもしれないですね。それでそのまま赤ちゃんを…っていうのは有り得そう。
（追記）
今見たら右手にカッターらしき物が…？
@@むにゃ-q5f
その場合なら、ヒトゴロシ呼ばわりされても文句言えないですよね
正式な堕胎じゃないですから
あと、右手はカッターじゃなくて囚人服の拘束ベルトだと思います！
凶器を持ってる場合はムウみたいにもっとはっきり描写されるはずです
ユノのMVには水に関する要素がたくさん出てくるので、羊水って意味だけではなくてトイレの水って解釈もできますね
詳しい描写はしませんがTear Dropのユノが胎児の姿勢でカメラがくるくる回ってるのって…
@@むにゃ-q5f
その可能性は大いにありますよね…
Tear Dropで丸まった姿勢のユノがくるくる回ってるところとか…詳しくは描写しませんがそれにしか見えなくて
それに、ちゃんとした医療機関を受診して堕ろしているならヒトゴロシ呼ばわりはされないはずです(「関与」の定義が広すぎるので)
法で許されていることをエスが赦さないと言ったら、
エスにもアマネやコトコのように独断で人を裁いたという罪が生まれますし
まあ…既に手遅れではあるんですが
右手のは多分ユノの囚人服のベルトだ思います
@@むにゃ-q5fそのカッターで臍の緒切ったのかな…
たぶん右手のやつは衣装のベルトですよ！
でもその説もあるかもしれません
ユノにとって邪魔でしかなかったなら扱いが雑になっちゃうのも理解できるというか
コトコちゃんのボイスドラマでエスの最初の赦すなら共犯者の意味を理解した…エスが囚人にたいして自分なりに10人分の罪を自分のもののように背負って最後まで裁いていく覚悟あるのほんとにかっこいい
0:24 「アンダー」ってとこ男性だと低い声が入ってて、女性だと高い声が入ってるの好きです
嫌い対OKの境界線を
我儘のまま終わっていいの？
ってとこって私たちが見た目や声の好き嫌いで、赦す赦さないを決めていいの？ってことだと思う。
既に推しを決めている人への皮肉？
そうなんですかね...それだったらエス本人は基準はなんでもいい(性癖とかもw)と言っているので矛盾しちゃわないすかね...？
@@日本語男
確かに矛盾しちゃいますね💦
それを踏まえて的な…？無理矢理ですけど笑
りょっきー明太子
矛盾というか、性癖でもいいけど本当にそれでいいの？っていう感じの問いかけかなぁと思います。
@@ufer1575 めっちゃ納得！
@@ufer1575 確かに納得致しました天才ですか
イントロでDECO*27を確信し
歌い始めでDECO*27を確信し
サビでDECO*27を確信し
ラスサビの転調でDECO*27を確信した
圧倒的DECO*27
フータが好きです(ﾎﾞｿｯ)
ほんとDECO*27さんパネェってなりますよね...
ハルカとアマネ好きです()
DECO*27さんの楽曲って神曲しかないから本当に凄いですよね…
コトコが好きです(ﾎﾞｿｯ)
beco27さんの曲全部中毒性半端ない(アマネが好きです(
Decoさんの曲はどれも全部神やから皆聞いてくれよ…
(シドウさんとハルカくんとカズイおじ コトコしゃまが推しですこすこ)
全てが一緒で親近感を勝手に感じる
ミクちゃんカバー聴いて帰ってきた民おるやろ？？おるやろ(圧)
ミクちゃんカバー聴いてミルグラム沼にハマった人間おるやろ？？おるよな()
( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉｶｴｯﾃｷﾀﾖ
@@qwuj0 おかえり( ´∀｀(((
ハマってしまった...
しかし後悔なんてする訳ない
後者ですはい( ￣▽￣)
ハーイここにいまーす！
シドウのパートの｢騙される方か騙す方か｣って歌詞がすごく気になる
ドラマトラックで尋問が行われる前に｢嘘はつかないつもり｣と言っているし終始冷静で誠実そうに見えるのにDECO*27さんの楽曲から彼がカバーしているのはライアーダンスだし、普段の様子とはかけ離れたかなりはっちゃけた歌い方をする
どうして彼に嘘や騙す等といったキーワードがまとわりついているのか考えると、今まで出た情報のどこからどこまでに｢嘘｣の要素が含まれるのか本当に分からないのが怖くてたまらない…。
回想シーン
2:09 ハルカ 部屋
2:10 コトコ 路地裏、右上にサイレンぽい光
2:11 ユノ 学校の屋上？腹抑えてる？
2:12 ミコト 仕事？
2:13 フータ 葬式、スマホで撮影
2:13 アマネ シャワー？雨？
2:14 ムウ 教室
2:14 シドウ 病院
2:15 カズイ 車道
2:15 マヒル 手を重ね合わせてる
タイムテーブル上手く行かなかったので目安です
殺害シーンっぽいシルエット
2:44 ハルカ
エスの首に痕跡。絞殺？ハルカがエスに股がってる。ハルカの隣に小さくて丸い影があってそれが小さい子供に見える（曲げてるエスの足かも）。画面右下の破片に血痕。
2:45 ユノ
エスの腹部に痕跡。右側にナイフが刺さってるようにも見える。刺殺？ユノの体制が足を付いて踏ん張っているように見えるから流産？手がどこにあるかは見えないのでわからない。
2:46 フータ
エスの首~上半身に痕跡。撲殺？胸ぐらを掴んで無理矢理立たせようとしているように見える。フータもかなりの返り血を浴びてる。
2:55 ムウ
エスの腹部に痕跡。ムウの手にカッターらしきもの。刺殺（MVに描写あり）。エスに股がってるムウ。
2:56 シドウ
エスの胸あたりに痕跡。刺殺？赤い塊が出てるように見える（臓器？）。エスの足が地面についてなさそう、吊るされてる？
2:57 マヒル
エスの首に痕跡。首を絞めているように見える。絞殺？（MVから考察すると自殺っぽいから首吊りかも）。エスの左足の靴が脱げてる。2:17でマヒルは手を握ってたけど、相手は握り返していない（手が開いた状態）から死体と手を合わせてた？
3:01 カズイ
エスの顔~腹に痕跡。エスをカズイが抱き上げてるように見える。自殺？（MVから考察すると飛び降りだけど轢死もありえる）。エスの左足の靴が脱げてる。
3:02 アマネ
エスの腹に痕跡。正面から棒状のもので殴ってる。撲殺（2:13が風呂場だとするとシャワーヘッドが兇器？）。アマネの背後にアマネの帽子と何かがあるけどよく見えない。
3:04 ミコト
エスの背中に痕跡。形状、MVからしてバットで背後から殴ってる。撲殺。
3:06 コトコ
エス自体には痕跡が見当たらない。コトコの足には飛び散ってる。殺害方法、不明。エスの腕らへんを蹴ってる。
gracias por hablar de las siluetas.
la silueta perteneciente a Fuuta me confunde. al ser el pecado de Fuuta algo más indirecto resulta difícil de interpretar la silueta
アマネちゃんのシーンはシャワーだよ
もし彼らの殺害シーンの対象をesにして見せているのではないかと思いますね?🤔
@@l_lanran そうですよ
わざわざありがとうございます(´▽｀)
0:33の「フュー↑チャー↑」がすき
てか、マジ尊い
激しく同意
クリームアイス
分かる。最初聞いた時はびっくりしたけど、何回も聞いていくと癖になる
分かる（笑）えぇ……高っ！って最初なったけど癖になるw
@@しゅ-q1n9m それなですそれなすぎてそれなです
確かに。
ただカラオケで歌うとき地獄w
0:33
最初は違和感の塊だった
「フュー↑チャー↑」が好き、癖になる
キリスト教の聖書によると
羊→善
ヤギ→悪だそうです。
2つのマークがでてくるので参考にしてみてください。
おー！いい情報ゲットー！
え、てことはシルエットからイラストに切り替わる間奏の部分(語彙力)のマークって羊とヤギですよね…??脳に近いところに羊(善)がある場合、なんらかの事情があって殺さざるを得なかった(?)のか…????アマネとか虐待っぽいし楽になるために殺した…的な(語彙力皆無)
@@山田-g4c 確認してきたら全員羊の方が脳に近かったです…！
その人が善か悪かあなたが判断しろ、的なやつですかね…？
ジャカロープさんツノがヤギしてる
@@市野智之 ジャッカロープってのはこのために作られたキャラじゃなくて、アメリカのワイオミング州あたりの未確認生物なんですけど、あれはシカの角ですよ！
In Es's voice drama, it's revealed that there's an eleventh prison cell that's left unoccupied. Combining this with Es's lost memories leads me to think that there's a link between the two. If you look at the commonalities between the prisoners, each one has a song of their own, a cover of another one of Deco*27's songs, as well as a voice drama, which for some reason applies to Es but doesn't apply to Jackalope. From some of the other prisoners' voice dramas, we find out that Es gets violent with some of the other prisoners. It's quite likely that Es is the last prisoner.
Yes and they also hold like a cube in the beginning with 00 written on it and there were like other cubes too from 01 to 10 so maybe Es is like the 0th prisoner or like an other theory in this comment section the one that has been killed through different dimensions
@@raijin8049 bit late to the party but if you look at 0:18 you can clearly see 11 of those cubes, one for every prisoner and that with the fact that Es opens 000
where do you find the voice dramas? and are there translations for them yet?
@@cityyliights_ there are fan translations, you just gotta do some searching online and will probably find them
@@kevinli8000 thanks so much !
最初期のMVに今になってこんなに涙ちょちょ切れさせられるとは思ってなかった………………
0:15〜床に落ちてる箱は10個…それぞれ囚人の(罪の)箱？
エスの横にも1個箱がある。最初エスが手に持ってた箱は000。エスにもナニかある…？
アンダーカバーがエスの心象なのかもね…
それぞれのキャラの心情を現す歌を出すオルゴールじゃない？
Sは彼女ではなく、彼らです
もうこれOPに使ってミルグラムのアニメ作って欲しい
なにそれ超絶見たい
アニメ 映画化希望で!!✧︎
@@upashi- 実写は嫌かなぁ…
それ絶対作画崩壊するやつ(○○プロで学んだ)
山下真樹
映画化言うとるだけで実写と違うんやないかな...???
囚人によってエスの歌い方が違うのかっこいいな
与えるだけじゃやーよのエスの歌い方がすごく好き
I'm new here and reading all these advance theories are giving me headaches for someone who just started at step 1, but all seriousness aside, this song is a bop tho and sure will the next ones
Same, I literally discovered all of this yesterday but I'm so invested already, can't wait to see more!
aaa I thought I discovered this late but I'm happy there are others like me! I'm so into this my head hurts
Welcome to Milgram!
This is my first video. Can someone tell me what this is?
@@shinycharizard97 It's about forgiving the prisoners or not, ur the one who who will judge them.
赦さないを”嫌い”って表現するの、見てるだけのやつらの傲慢の極みで好き
歌詞の“僕“の読み方は全部”あなた”でしたね
エスって心理学で無意識だから、何かしらの私たちの“本能”が反映されてるのかな。
本能が人を裁くのか…
最後のサビの絵が、初めて裏側が見えた気がしていろんな意味で鳥肌たったよ…
エスは主人公でありながら、我々視聴者の依代となる存在っていう設定ですよ！
最後の絵エスが色んな囚人？に殺されてましたよね なんか考察が深まります
赦すの定義は「共犯を認める事」という文を読んだ事があります。共犯者が、罪を責める事は出来ないですからね。
へぇやるやん。
分かりやすく虐めでたとえるけど、表に出るまで“本当に知らなかった事実がある人”以外は実質共犯者ですものね
それが真実かは別としても、共犯者が罪を責めても「共犯者だろ」で終わる話ですから…
1:31 ここのエスの「いいもの」の歌い方が可愛すぎて一生聞いてる
見事にDECO*27さんの策略にハマった人です。
今出ている楽曲全て聞いて戻ってきました。
新参者ですが、これからどうぞよろしくお願いします。
ミクcoverから来た人へ
ようこそ沼という名の監獄へ
看守デビューおめでとう
…て……けて……_(:3｣∠)_
看守デビューって言葉選びすこ
はーい看守デビューしましたー
監獄入りバンザーイ( ߹ㅁ߹)
｢アンダー｣から続く歌詞がキャラ一人一人のことを指していて、しかもエス目線ではなく恐らくキャラ目線での心情？みたいに聴こえるんだなぁ
もう何回も再生してる
I miss our gurl mappi and our man SHIDOU 😢😢😢
I think Es is the personification of their sins. If you look closely around 2:50 the person being hurt/murdered is always them, and Es could not possibly be murdered by all of them. For example, one of the silhouettes (which I understand is Mu) is holding a cutter against the victim, and in Mu's PV she murders a girl the same way. This is a bit of a strech but in Psychology 'Es' is the abreviation of Estimulous, something that changes the behaviour or makes someone react in a certain way. Maybe Es is called that way because they are the reason why the others are being judged, the "turning point" that it's going to determine the rest of their lives.
I think that scene is just the prisoners committing their crimes but their victim is replaced with es. Also, might be a stretch but es is the German way to say id which might be a nod to the id ego and superego theory with how much the word ego is mentioned
I also noted that Yuno 'Es' is well...lying between her legs. Knowing her trial theme is "Abortion" and the people she killed is "Her Childrens". It's as if 'Es' become the representation of her babies
"Es" means "id". To be a literal translation, "Es" means "it" or "the thing"
グルミクとのコラボで知り、この動画に辿り着きました
もうイントロからビリビリ来ちゃいまして完全にこの曲に惚れてしまいミルグラムという作品への興味が止まりません
知れてよかった...
リリリリとミルグラムと全然違って逆にギャップあるし性癖に刺さる…っ！
2:08
Boy sitting on a bed in a children bedroom = Haruka
Girl walking through an alley = Kotoko
Girl standing idk what to write = Yuno
Boy sleeping in front of a screen = Mikoto
Someone taking a pic of a home = Futa
Person lying on the ground = Amane
Girl lying on the school floor = Muu
Idk how to describe the this = Shidou
Person kneeing outside = Kazui
Holding hands idk = Mahiru
Here's a little thing about the lyrics, every time Es transition to one prisoner, after the line 'UNDER', the lyrics are as if sang by the prisoner. If you watch the cast introduction, it's similar.
You make a good point. I've been enlightened.
I noticed that too and,,, nice xiao prfp
@@katzwei_ now it’s ayaka
That's really cool
yea and his voice changes like for mu and haruka its soft and timid and for mahiru and amane its sweet and a bit girly and for futa its a bit angry
(Edited again after Kotoko 2nd Trial)
Another theory, this time overarching the prisoners.
As previously mentioned, the prisoners seem to come in pairs, even in release dates. Jackalope explicitly stated the numbers are important somehow. We have yet to learn why, but here’s my thoughts on that.
The prisoner’s rooms are arranged in a clock formation, from 000 to 010, and a hallway at the end for the common rooms.
Now divide the clock into 6 parts, 2 prisoners in each part (except 000 and the hallway) Each part represents a ‘theme’ of murder:
001-002 = *Family/Attention* (Haruka the Starved Child, Yuno the Tired Parent)
003-004 = *Manipulation* (Futa the Scapegoated Follower, Mu the Arrogant Initiator)
005-006 = *Timeless Love/Passion* (Shidou, trapped in Love Left Behind, Mahiru stuck in Love That Could've Been)
007-008 = *Promises/Commitment* (Kazui the Self-Denying Breaker, Amane the Stubbornly Committed)
009-010 = *Fight or Flight* (Mikoto the Self in Constant Flight, Kotoko the Self-Serving Fighter)
As for 000 & the hallway, the theme for them is not direct murder.
I think the theme is Bystander.
000 the Deciding Audience/Judge, and the common areas the Helpless Participant/Verdict.
I will explain the additional descriptions in a reply.
This comment will update after each trial.
MAJOR EDITS over the years:
- 004's label
- 005/006's THEME and labels
- 007/008's labels
- 009/010's labels
That is a frickin good obervation, wow!
Good catch! I knew something was up with the pairings, but I couldn't figure out what until this comment. It also made me consider something odd that I had noticed, but had dismissed until now.
Now, throughout the project, the prisoners have been presented in numerical order; Haruka comes first, then Yuno, then Futa, etc. This has been an invariable constant.
EXCEPT for 2:08-2:15, where the scenes for each prisoner are shown in an entirely new order:
Haruka, Kotoko, Yuno, Mikoto, Futa, Amane, Mu, Shidou, Kazui, Mahiru
This pattern is, as far as I can tell, never repeated elsewhere, and the fact that the scenes are shown again mere seconds later in the "proper" order suggests this was not just an oversite.
I had no idea what this new order could mean, but your comment did give me an idea: perhaps this new order is meant to indicate secret, hidden pairings between the cast. What those pairings mean, I'm not entirely sure, but it could be worth looking into.
big brain moment
Woah that’s a really cool theory
This makes so much sense thanks
時間指定のコメ欄見てて気づいたんだけど、2:33のマヒルちゃんの後ろだけ見た感じ何もないから冤罪かもっていうコメあったんだよね。
それでなんでだろうと思ってたら近くの外人さんが少なくとも誰か1人はおとり捜査官なのではというコメを残してて、なんかあれ？もしかしてマヒルさんって本当にやったの…みたいな思いになりました。
I see a lot of comments about the last prisoner being Es, but I don't think that's all there is to it. I say they're representing a much larger group, like how the prisoners each represent wider issues-teen pregnancy and abortion, bullying, growing up in a cult, etc. So yes, Es is a prisoner, but the prisoner they're representing?
It's us. The audience.
The power of public opinion is a double-edged blade. On one hand, people can be really supportive. They can raise cash for charities, they can volunteer for relief after major disasters, or even help an old lady cross the street. On the other hand, people are absolute monsters. Take every single bullying situation where an entire class gangs up on a single person, a bunch of people canceling someone online, or maybe an entire city marginalizing social minorities.
In this case, Milgram is harnessing the power of social opinion to judge whether the prisoners should be condemned or forgiven, but is it really our place to? Frankly, we're not the ones they killed. We're not even related to the ones they killed. But we have a say in whether or not they should be forgiven. Us, as total strangers? To put in perspective, imagine if your mother was murdered. You love her, she loves you, you have a happy and healthy relationship, and then all of a sudden, she's gone. Her murderer is put on trial. The circumstances regarding the murder are unclear enough that it's a fifty-fifty on whether the murderer is declared guilty or walks free from self defense.
Somehow, the case blows up and now the whole nation knows and has their opinions on it. You listen to their comments everyday, speculating. Maybe your mother deserved to be murdered. Maybe the fault lies elsewhere. Maybe the murderer should be forgiven. Maybe the murderer isn't bad, but another victim. Whatever the case, it all boils down to this: you have a bunch of strangers butting in on something that's not their business and trying to influence the outcome of the case. Similarly, we're doing the same thing as the audience. We're breaching the privacy of the prisoners by looking into their thoughts via the mv's and we're the ones judging their crimes despite not being related to them. So again, is it really our place to judge them?
I really like how you write this. This is an interesting perspective. I always wonder about this myself too. Before I judge someone, I always asks myself: "Am I even better?" I still make sins. Sure, not to the extent of murder like the prisoners, but that still doesn't mean I should feel righteous.
That's why I like the lines sung by Es from this song. "Is it really okay to be done deciding with just your Ego?" It's true. We judge mostly from our Ego.
I can't wait to see how this project will go from here. If it actually inspired from the real Milgram experiment, then it's likely we're the subjects here.
THIS. milgram's whole point isn't about guilty or not, but forgive or not. they constantly talk about forgiveness and even the voting system is based on condoning.
I'm not the best at making theories but here's my attempt. If there's anything you'd like to add, please let me know.
Everything in this MILGRAM project represents something.
000-ES: The audience. Are we in the right to judge?
001-HARUKA: Maturity. People laugh when you're acting immature.
002-YUNO: Teenage pregnancy. Is it pro-life or anti-choice?
003-FUTA: Cancelling. At what point does justice become a criminal offense?
004-MU: Bullying.
005-SHIDOU: Hopelessness.
006-MAHIRU: Stalking. Doxxing has taken this one even further.
007-KAZUI: Neglect.
008-AMANE: Religion.
009-MIKOTO: Identity. Are you really the same person you claim to be in the eyes of others?
010-KOTOKO: Justice. And I only need four letters to tell you exactly what this has to do with the real world: ACAB.
JACKALOPE: Society itself. Always watching, always silently judging.
Except we're pretty much a whole bunch of these characters combined in some way or another.
this is such a good take on the whole milgram situation
You've summed it up so well. There's a child in my life who has such strong opinions on subjects she doesn't even understand. Everything is black and white to her and it scares me whenever she talks to me about, say, how someone deserves to lose their job, their life, everything, after bullying someone.
But that's the thing. What if the "bully" was never even a bully at all? We're not the "bully". We're not the "victim", either. So why do you think it is your place to judge so matter-of-factly? And it isn't just her, either. There are millions of other children, just like her, banding together to blindly play God with other peoples' business.
Hits a bit different now huh?
It was our call, and boy did we call it LMAO
I hate it here😭😭😭😭
@@ImD3Star We are all suffering, but we suffer together!
2:23のミコトの顔がなんか引っかかる。
二重人格or記憶喪失ならこの状況に疲れ切ってる顔ってことになるけど、もしも罪悪感感じない系のサイコパスなら、追求されてめんどくさいって感じがすごいする。
さすがに考察にサイコパスふってくんのはないとおもうから何かあるんやと思う
耳を触る時の心理は「他に関心がある」らしいです。（多分）
cv花江夏樹だしね…（花江さんとばっちり）
二審でミコトの別人格をジョンと呼ぶと聞いたのでジョンと呼ぶんですが、ジョン→ミコトの瞬間を撮ったのでしょうか…それならほかの関心というのもミコトくん。ミコトくんの為に殺めたのですかね？(そうだった場合は暖かい目でなにか一言ください(´•ω•`*))
「アンダー～～…」のところ、人によって歌い方というか、声というか、ちょっとずづ変えてる?!すごい…！！
OK so I'm a psychology student and i noticed a lot of references to popular psychological theories in this series. Of course the Prison or the whole project is called "MILGRAM", a study about authority. BUT that is not what i want to focus about in my little theory here. The prison guards name or "the audience" is called ES, which is the german word for Id in the outdated but still popular structural model of personality by Freud. He argues our psychological apparatus is made up of three parts, ID (Desires, repressed memories, etc.), the EGO (the mediator between Id and super-ego and the only aspect which has a connection to the outside world) and the super-ego (morals, oftentims restricting a lot of desires of the Id). In this song we are asked "You get to know them, tie them with THEIR Ego" and later on "Is it really okay to be done with deciding with just YOUR EGO?". This stood out for me, the EGO is the part that mediates, the part that lets through some desires, represses some cause of the super-ego etc. We - so our ego - decide upon the fates/who is forgiven or not. So maybe it is also a Test for the protagonist ES to decide which cases the super-ego finds okay or which cases don't. A Test of the EGO you might say, which tests ES desires to forgive/not forgive and their super-egos alignment. Because remember, the EGO is the one mediating between the Id/EGO and the super-ego. Because we still dont really know much about the prison guard ES itself. Maybe ES is tested upon their own morals using Freuds psychoanalytic understanding of our psychological structure. But these are just my ramblings i thought about watching this video. Sorry if this might sound confusing at times, English is my second language. :)
And another thing, why do I notice this just now? Everytime a prisoner is shown there, Es says "UNDER", which would normally be something the Ego would do, the ego suppresses desires, not the ES. So its really intriguing why the so called ES here is seeing all these sins and is saying "under" (suppression). It doesn't Really fit in to the role of an ES and more of an ego. Oh im so interested into this whole project and how es relates to the characters or maybe - symbolizations of some type of sins? Archetypes of something the Es wants but is suppressed by something higher? Ah so many interesting possibilities. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but it's a really interesting project.
Hi, i'm a psicology student too. Thank u, you are the only who talk about Freud's structural model of personalities and reading this i feel less alone lol, I thought i was the one who noticed that. I know i'm very late for this game but i found about it 3 days ago rip.
This is so coolllllll
Guess I'll read this two years later
It did not need two years, we read about these concepts last week and now I understand your point
泣いてる
マヒルちゃんはちゃんといたもんね…
今さらだけどラスサビを見ていつか囚人メンバー達がエスに対して手を出してきそうじゃないかと思ってしまった。
確かに…殺してるのエスだもんね、手を出しそうだな…とくにミコトとかミコトとかミコトとか((
@@らて-w7x ミコトくんばっかじゃねーか！w
ボイスドラマのネタバレ含みます
ボイスドラマですでに手出されてましたね…ぶん殴られるエス君とてもよかったです墓に帰ります
@@キャラ-l1g
※ほんのちょっぴりネタバレ
私も初見聞いた時ビックリしたし殴られた後苦しそうにするエスくんにリョナ心が芽生えたし
私の中でミコエスというカップリングに目覚めてしまったきっかけでもあるんですよねホントにありがとう((((
@@helloex-6767 絶対趣味あうじゃないですかあ…
2:36あたりの「喜ぶでしょう」のとこでみんなが笑みを浮かべるの鳥肌たった
ココ最近気づきましたが順番通りに写ったあとアマネとカズイだけ何故か2回うつってるんですよね…アップで。そのあとフータらしき人物の拘束されたシルエット…気になります
皆考察してる中の私
( ᐛ)「フューチャー」
不意打ちすぎて笑ったw
笑ったwww
待ってそれ私もですwww
ちょうど見てたから吹いたw
全く同じですwww
1:46 ここの真顔に戻る瞬間やべぇ
かわいい( ´ཫ`)👍(ワイは変態じゃないからな)
もう一回ボイスドラマ聞いてきたけど一つだけ古い十一番目の扉にこのアンダーカバーでエスが持ってる箱もあってどっかで見たもともとエスも囚人側だったって話が可能性でかくなってきたな
絶対ここに戻ってきてる人多いと思ったので言わせてください
お か え り
これが自分たちが判決を下す前のアンダーカバーだよ、絶望だね
でも、まだわかんないから少しの希望を持って怯えながら待ちます
聞きに戻ってきてしまった、
マヒルさんまで聞いてなんとなくこうなのかなって感じるのは、ハルカとユノ、フータとムウ、シドウとマヒルそれぞれが対になっているというか、共通するテーマか何かがあるのかなと感じた。個人的に、
ハルカとユノ→「母と子」親子間で何か問題があったり、事情があれば殺人は赦されるのか？
フータとムウ→「報い、報復」悪いことをしてる人は殺していいのか？
シドウとマヒルは→「愛」愛する人のため、自分の愛のためなら殺人は赦されるのか？
というようなかんじ。
ともあれ早く全員の曲聴きたい。
Anyone else notice how Kazui seems to be the only one (with the exception of Yuno who's just holding a knife over Es's body, we don't see her harming them directly) who isn't touching the Es body in any sort of harmful way in the final sequence? Haruka has his hands around Es's throat, Futa is roughing Es up, Mu appears to be stabbing Es (its hard to tell?), Shidou looks as if he's physically ripping out an organ?? Mahiru is supporting Es's fallen body, however she does have her arms around their neck, symbolizing how she strangled her partner in their relationship with her overattachment. Amane is beating Es with a bat, Mikoto is beating Es from behind with a bat, and Kotoko is kicking Es (presumably to death).
Kazui is on his knees, holding Es's body and seems to be in distress.
Kazui seems to be the most innocent if you solely watch Undercover alone. With Undercover and Half, I still firmly hold Kazui innocent.
Yuno is aborting a baby lol
Hey do you know where i can find these images because they go by too fast in the video and even when paused i cant make out all the details and cant see who's who (except kazui, that one was obvious)
@@dumbmonkey1313 you can slow down the video in settings
something intresting to add, I saw a theory on twitter about how Futa might not have been directly the murderer, but was most likely scapegoated aswell as gaslighted into being a murderer, till he believed it himself. While he was part of the group, he was not the main person who caused the death of the person. You note that they are "roughing" es up, which doesnt mean they killed them, but did cause some damage.
Haruka-well we saw the entire strangling his child self thing, whatever that means(murder,probably)
Yuno-Abortion, presumably with a knife.(Not murder, unless you're one of those people who believe abortion is murder, or you live in a place where abortion IS murder.)
Mu-well we saw that in the video.(murder)
Shidou-Organs!(murder,unless you believe the theory that it wasnt directly organs he was taking, but rather knowledge on how to save a life, or whatever else he could be taking from a terminally ill patient or person in need of surgery.)
Mahiru-Overattachment stuff(cause of death, but not murder)
Amane-Cult shit (murder)
Kazui-If we had to guess, Kazui did something that caused his wife stress to the point that they committed suicide. It might be cheating, or he might be working in a bar, or it might just be a normal lack of communication or Misunderstanding between them. (cause of death, but not murder)
Mikoto-We saw that they obviously beat the fuck out of a person with a bat in like the first 10 seconds of the MV(murder)
Kotoko-Well that video hasnt come out yet, but probably vigilante justice if i had to guess, probably killed.(murder)
@@matchari2712 Is it 100% abortion for Yuno. Because I don't remember exactly what's it called, but it's a type of manslaughter where a mother after giving birth because severely depressed and murder's her baby. It has a sentence of 5 years in Canada.
hahaha it was a silly prank haruka is alive you see!!!
「喜ぶでしょう」のとこで皆がほくそ笑んでる？みたいなところの皆が写った最後、一瞬だけエスみたいな人がうつってるんだよなあ
囚人服を着たエスが。
追記 2:39
音楽も歌詞も凄いし、コメント欄の考察も凄いんだけど、
毎回サビ×人数分の１枚絵とアニメーションと伏線背景を描いてる絵師さんに尊敬しかない。
わかりみ
わかりみ
わかりみ深し尊臣秀吉
わかりみ不可思議
最後に囚人のみんながエスを刺すシーンがあったから、最終的にみんながエスに「赦さない」を押すのかなって
I can't thank the official staff enough for adding the English subtitle
that was actually such a banger oh my god 😭 UNDERR🗣️🗣️
全く確定じゃないので分かんないんですけど
ハルカで精神患者(考察から)だったら赦せる？
ユノで堕胎なら赦せる？
フータで間接的(追い詰めるみたいな)だったら赦せる？
ムウで正当防衛(?)だったら赦せる？
後は幼かったら赦せる？とか別人格だったら赦せる？とか愛してたら赦せる？
みたいな、どういう人殺しなら赦せますか、どちらも人殺しなのに状況が違うだけで赦せるんですねっていうことだと思う(伝われ)
看守が許せる立場なのかどうかって誰かが言ってたからそう言うことだと思う
みんなの殺し方っていうか動機が違いすぎて
I can forgive fuuta that mean did some shit but even I think he don’t mean it to take it far and everything. Hes a lot remorseful in the second trial cause it’s a lot going for if you listen to the 2nd voice drama and his questions and anwser.
Mikoto I can forgive but not John so you can say it’s 50/50
2:08 の10枚のイラストが
2:28 のキャラクターの裏側にそれぞれ表示されていて、結びつく。
家族で楽しく考察してます！
ありがとうございます！！
I just thought about it when reading the theory comments..
Maybe we’re the ones being tested? The Milgram experiment is something about obeying orders I guess . And we’re doing exactly what jacklope told us to do in the earlier videos. Watch the prisoners’ MVs and judge them, and most are doing as he told us to...
it is heavily hinted that we are being the ones tested
I thought that too! I also thought that maybe the prisoners were actors like in the original experiment :OO Just a thought!
YeahOh Welp In real life, that’s the most likely answer~ But the votes aren’t asking “Guilty” or “Innocent” , in Japanese version , they’re asking if we would whether forgive them or not~ So I believe this is all to test peoples’ experience~ Most people tend to forgive the ones who went through similar to them so~ But I guess in real life they would have been given death penalty already as you said--
Edit- Typo
when you think about it, the rabbit told us to judge the prisoners without any explanation to why, or what would happen in the end. Es or any of the prisoners could get killed because of our votes for all we know yet we keep voting.
The original experiment had 'a teacher', who would be the rabbit, a test subject, and an actor.
If we're the ones being tested, then does that make the prisoners the actors..?
@@tvheadtrash_6936 the prisoners after the 3rd trial: you've been fooled! we were paid actors this whole time!
es who suffered so much controlling a bunch of 'murderers':
ミクさんカバーからきました、、、、クオリティ高すぎませんか、、、、、、
ミクさんcoverから来た方いらっしゃいませ！(？)
どんどん沼りましょーね😊💖(((殴
@@knkn_590 ここのファンの人達優しくて好き… 早速全曲聞いて投票しました!!!!!
これもしかしたらエスの精神状態やばくなるんじゃ…
今まで公表されている曲を聴いてからそれぞれの囚人たちが1人ずつ登場する部分の歌詞を見ると「囚人たちのそれぞれの罪に関わるヒントかな」って最近思うようになった
1:42のアマネちゃんのところ、｢信じるだけでいいの、約束破る道理などない｣って親の言うことは絶対、約束を破かなければ虐待されないってことなのでしょうか？泣けてくるのですが😭子どもには幸せになって欲しいものです
彼女は小6だろ？
さすがにやめたげて！ってなるよね😅
「僕(あなた)はちゃんと赦せるかな」
私たちは赦したい前提なの？
まあ、多分最後の曲が出るまで赦すことになるだろうけど(少なくとも私は)
これからどうなるんだろうほんとうに楽しみ
【2:39】
今までどんなイラストだ？って思ってたけどわかった!!
ここからってエスが被害者の代役で、各囚人の“罪“にあたる出来事が描かれてるんだ！
【2:45】ハルカ/絞殺
エス首元にハルカの手が重なっている。
(エスは対抗した形跡あり)
【2:46】ユノ/堕胎
出血箇所と二審までの考察も含めてこの可能性が一番高い。
(エスは脱力状態→赤子だから意思がない)
【2:47】フータ/糾弾
胸元を掴み責め立てている。
(弁解するようなエスの表情と持ち上げられている様子)
【2:55】ムウ/刺殺
手にカッターが握られている。
(エスが抵抗している)
【2:56】シドウ/？
腹部内に手を突っ込んでいるような描写。
二審までを踏まえると参考にする考察が多いけど、具体的な罪状は不明。
(エスは反動で腕が上がっているのか抵抗しているか曖昧。強く抵抗はしていない様子)
【2:58】マヒル/絞殺..?
首元に手をかけている描写はある。
※他の囚人と比較してマヒルだけ口元が映っていない→実質的にマヒルは手を下していない？
(エスが抵抗した様子がない。→相手は自死している？)
【3:01】カズイ/？
手をかけた描写では無い。
亡骸を抱えているようにも見える。
(エスが無抵抗で脱力している→既に死んでいる？)
【3:03】アマネ/撲殺
長い棒のようなものを振り上げている
(エスは抵抗していた姿勢になっている)
【3:04】ミコト/撲殺
バットで殴っている
(エスは抵抗するまもなく背後から不意をつかれた様子)
【3:06】コトコ/蹴殺
明らかに蹴ってる
(エスは蹴りの反動で仰け反っているが抵抗の跡がない→抵抗する間もなく蹴られた可能性がある)
一生懸命考えた素人の考察です🙇♀️
まだ参審もあるので間違いも多いでしょうが、自分なりのまとめとしてコメントしてみました。
既に似たコメントや考察が出ていたらすみません。😢😢
なるほど…ありがとう
I don’t know how I just found out about MILGRAM today, but I am so happy I got Mikoto’s song in my recommended. Es’s voice is really nice! I’ll definitely keep up with it from now on.
最近の、例の動画見て帰ってきた同志いるよなあ……！
泣きそうだ、、
頼む。全囚人で合唱してくれ
最近ハマった者だけど提案が素晴らしすぎる
There's a chorus in the live performance. It's very late.
It may be awkward because it's a translator.
望んでたものと違うのが公式からお出しされてしまった…………
Notice how Es has all the little boxes around them. Notice how there are ELEVEN, not ten.
I wonder if one is for them.
At the end, we’ll vote whether Es is guilty for sentencing everyone else and causing their deaths
@@chantolove That's probably the case
Kotokos 2nd trial vid finally came out and she mentions a number 11 prisoner as inept guard, most likely referring to Es. So maybe Es is seen as a prisoner as well?
Here is my theory that Es is one of the prisoners
• At 2:39 we can see Es with a prisoner suit
• The box that Es' holding have a number "000"
• the room for prisoners have 11 rooms, 000 to 010
• while Es is sitting in these MV, there are 11 box around them. the other one is next near to them
• in this music video, you can see that there no door iron bars for the prisoners, that means. Those full iron bars can be open by sliding it to the side or opening it to the top. Im not sure about this iron bars part because when I listened the Voice Drama of Es, before the prisoner's exit their rooms, there is this mechanical sound that can guess that these iron bars can be open by going it to top or sliding it by side
- plus, Es mentioned that the room of 000 has no iron bars/lock that's what makes me think
• And at the end of the MV, Es disappears and then Jackalope is the only one left, when the "000" box closed
- probably mean that the box "000" is belong to a prisoner, and that is Es. I mean if its belong to Prison Guard, Jackalope should be disappear too
I also have a theory that Es probably have connection with Mu
• Because at Es' voice drama, while Jackalope introducing the prisoners to them. Es only remember Mu's name
• Also before this MV ends, when Es' eyes get near, you can see Mu's reflection on
Wait btw which vid is the one with muu and es being connected
@@timorysimon586 8 months late but i think they meant this one where muu is the last person to appear before the final scene with jackalope
ミクから来た新米看守です。
皆さんお気づきかもですが、アンダーから始まる歌詞が全て囚人側と一致しているのに鳥肌立ちました。
あと個人的に真昼の声を兼スライムの人がやってるー！！と思ってしまった事を此処で告白させて頂きます。すみませんでした🙇♀️
this singer went from thomas the train to this. this is absolutely incredible
HOL UP WHAT
@@GE-0530RN yeah she was the seiyuu of thomas the train (idk if she is still the seiyuu of him tho) !!
@@kuri. oh my goodness es the train es the train
es the train
WHAAAAAAT es the train???
0:34 のﾌｭｰﾁｬｰ好き。あとユノちゃんかわよ
小林さん感ある
最後の、エスっぽい子が囚人にめっちゃ襲われてる所、皆が人を殺した時の殺し方？なんじゃねって思ったら鳥肌(伝われ)
違ったらごめんだけど、フータ殺してるってより襲ってる感あった気がしたから、やっぱいじめてた子が自殺したとかかな...
天才ですか……？
最初の青い子(名前忘れた)は家庭の事情だったら赦せる？
ムウちゃんは正当防衛で殺すのは赦せる？
小学生の子(名前忘れた)は幼かったら赦せる？
フータは間接的な殺人だったら赦せる？
多重人格説出てる子(名前忘れた)は別人格だったら赦せる？
みたいな、こう言う理由だったら赦せるんだねってことだと思ってる
@@msoimkoi多重人格の子はミコト、別人格はジョンだったはずです！
I'm in agonizing pain.
好きな曲を、聞いた曲っぽい歌い方で歌うのが好きだけど、エスくんは特に「騙し合い消せないアンダー」の落ち方が首絞められてるみたいな声で、この歌い方できる自信全然ない()
何度聴いてもこの中性すぎる歌声好きすぎて爆発しそう
力強さとか声質の雰囲気は女の子感全くないのに、でもかといって男の子ってわけもしなくて、あえて言うならショタ…
ほんとこの中性感どうなってるんだ毎日狂わされてる