It Was ALWAYS About Management?!? | Fallout Ep 1x8 Reaction & Review | Prime Video
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So the scientist was right. They all got what they wanted. Lucy found her dad. Max is a knight. But what they wanted is no longer what they need.
Yup. You get dramatic structure. And this is why there’s a season two.
Also because we care about the characters. Shows don’t get renewed when the audience ceases to care.
The cold fusion unlock code 101097 is the date the original Fallout game released - 10th October 1997. I played that game a few months later (was bought the game for Christmas) and have been a massive fan ever since. That's among my favourite easter eggs from the whole season.
The evolution of Lucy's "Okey-dokey" over this season is one of the funnest parts.
I've noticed a definite uptick in my friends saying "okey-dokey" IRL, and my wife and I love to use it too.
i came here to say that, i love how by that last "okey-dokey" its so much darker and depressing compared to her first one
This episode features the fifth stage of okey dokey: acceptance.
@@vRED13vTTV The layers to Okey Dokey are great. Okey Dokey before table sex (upbeat and excited) Okey Dokey before cutting a head off (acceptance and determination) Okey Dokey in this episode (darker and disillusioned)
@@thomasolson1154 Before table sex, Lucy's Dokey was at maximum Okey. By the finale, there was no Okey left in her Dokey.
I swear, when the Ghoul says, "Where's my fucking family?" he drops the accent. And similarly, when he was talking with the dog and letting her out of the fridge, he dropped the accent. Does anyone else hear that? If true, it's an amazing detail, because it indicates that that Ghoul isn't crazy, that he is *knowingly* playing a role in order to help cope with the horrors of the Wasteland, and he lets the role drop occasionally.
I think it's more that his kind is a little screwed so his acting role comes through. don't forget he spent years and years being that cowboy actor. After 200 of ghoulification ur identity will become a little hazy. so u think the accent drop is pure emotion from is family man persona
hence the shock realisation when he saw himself again in the movie
He basically created a 'persona' to survive trauma. It's a common survival strategy. As an actor, his persona is more all-encompassing than a rew personalty cha ges here and there, he 'became' someone else. Mostly.
Thank you for this! I've been waiting for someone else to clock the accent/persona as a coping mechanism. He's playing the cowboy he played on TV - the one who could save the day in the end
@@aiski6081 I don't think it's consciously tho that's why he was so startlet when he saw the movie.. it almost knocked part of him back to his Real persona
@@vkdeen7570 That's certainly one reading and you could be right. An alternate interpretation would be that it's a social masking technique however. It's a behavioural model that better fits his environment: you're more likely to do well in the Wasteland if you deliberately give off badass charisma, right? I interpreted the TV scene as a display of grief. He looked at the TV in the same way he looked at Snip Snip when he spoke with the voice of his long dead friend.
On another level, the TV scene also allows us to compare and contrast the moralities of past and present-Cooper. What would his past self say if he saw himself now? The Ghoul is strong, ugly, but where's the dignity given all he has done to survive until this point? At best Cooper Howard would give the Ghoul two out of three. So the Ghoul sits, processing that. To me, that's the source of his expression.
Could be either/or though! I can definitely see your angle.
That line Lucy used about how her father would be crushed to find out she distroyed a civizaltion just to save him... that hits way different now lol
I always remember what Wilzig said about, "Will you still want the same things when you become a different person entirely," in reference to Lucy, but now I realize that it also applies to Maximus.
Could also be to future characters as well, even the Ghoul
The end titles gave you a big clue about Moldaver...and possibly Coops family...the billboard advertised cryopods. And Hank is going there for a reason...so presumably. Moldaver survived in one such facility, while Coops family could be in a different vault to 31...as in, that wasn't the vault for management that she was referring to...and that vault could be in or near New Vegas
it's also important to know Mr. House was playing his own game. He'd never agree to the Vault-Tec plan without contingencies, which we know he had been cooking up prior to the meeting. I'd assume Moldaver was one such piece to his apocalyptic empire. Possibly he hoped to unfreeze her after he secured the strip to then sell power to the wasteland. Ironic, considering the fight for the Hoover Dam.
I don’t get the first episode, we see Coop with his daughter, he’s obviously quit acting for a long enough period of time that he has play kid parties to make a living, so how did the daughter end up with the wife? Like I just don’t see him handing her over to the architect behind destroying the world, even if she found him and offered them a place in a vault. I thought the daughter had died due to radiation poisoning and Coop had miraculously been transformed into a Ghoul.
@@ourabouras Yeah, that's one of the mysteries that I'm sure we'll learn more about once Coop finds his family again. My guess is that, faced with the reality of the bombs actually dropping (which he was momentarily in denial about when it happened, so some part of him must have thought they wouldn't actually go through with it), he chose to give his daughter a chance at safety rather than just let her die. Even if he HATED Barb by that point, I don't see him just letting his daughter die in the nuclear aftermath. Given that he and Barb were already divorced when we first meet him (which is why the guy at the bday party said Coop was working kids' bday parties to pay "alimony"), it's possible she/Vault-Tec would be willing to let the daughter in but not him. Given the choice, I think most people wouldn't choose to let their child die, regardless of what they think of the person holding the key to safety.
I think the bigger question is this: If Barb, as part of Vault-Tec, knew when they were going to drop the bombs ("We drop them ourselves"), why would she have let Coop take the daughter out to a birthday party instead of having her already set up in a vault? You'd think all the chosen people would be already locked-down and ready when the time came. And since Barb's motivation to part of the destruction of the world seemed to revolve almost entirely around ensuring the ultimate safety of her daughter (whereas Bud's, e.g., was to be a ruler of the new world), it doesn't make sense that she wouldn't have the daughter with her on bomb-dropping day.
This -- combined with the fact that Coop asks Hank "Where's my family?" and not "Where's my daughter?" -- makes me wonder if maybe Barb went against Vault-Tec in some way at the end and got taken somewhere (like, bc she knew too much of the plan to just let her go rogue). I'll be interested to see how they evolve this story next season. Also interested to see if Barb has a redemption arc or ends up being a mini-boss/Big Bad in the next season(s).
i think my favorite line from this show is when Maximus says to Lucy "everyone wants to save the world, they just disagree on how"
“Big Mt” is Big Mountain Research & Development, a private defense contractor specializing in what is essentially mad science, and is featured in one of the DLC’s for Fallout New Vegas.
In fact all of the corporate reps are people at least refrenced in the game, the west tek rep is, acording to the credits meant to be Leon Von Felden, who was one of the west tek researchers at maraposa military base and was personally executed by Roger Maxson before he founded the brotherood of steel. Fredrick Sinclair is representing Big MT and he went on to build and then die in the Sierra Madre casino from New Vegas' dead money DLC. Robert House should need no introduction for people who have played New Vegas. The Repconn represetntative is apparntly Julie Masters who shortly before the great war engeneered the buyout of Repconn by Robco and later treid to steal Repconn weapons prototypes to sell to an unidentified third party all of which can be learned from her terminal at Repconn HQ in New Vegas.
Big Mountain is known in the wasteland as Big Empty because post apocalyptic people misunderstood the Big MT
Pretty fun one too
Moldaver used cryo (it is not limited to Vault Tec). Actress is de-aged about 10-15 yrs + glasses and turtle neck hiding details (meaning up to 20yrs) in her flashback about year before nukes, when we learned her real surname is Williams. Also we saw book called NCR (ep5 outro) inside the locker in Shady Sands Elementary, written by Kate Williams (might be real identity of Moldaver).
Also there is a 5yrs difference between Vault 33 people going out 2277 (when Lucy got out and back to Vault), and Shady Sands nuked 2282.
Lots story uncovered still..
Brotherhood we saw scanned the head for the thing, instead poking around trying to find some "thing", means they knew exactly what they are looking for and what it does, what is ofc true, due to them going way back 220yrs and having connections (natural enemies from before nukes) to the Enclave..
Well here is something few people fail to notice. How did Moldaver knew the scientist from the Enclave? My theory is that she's an ex-member of the enclave. They would have the technology to freeze her and thus she would be able to to be in the current present of the show. And that way she would also know a way to contact her scientist friend to help and bring the data of Cold Fushion to her. And remember that Enclave have raided several Vaults to get their hands on the Vaults "resources" and data. So naturally they would have the data of Cold Fushion from Vault Tech.
Unless someone would bring a better theory that's the only way I see how it could fill all those current plotholes. So yeah I believe Moldaver is an ex-Enclacve.
How ironic that Lucy didn't want devastate her dad by participating in the theft of Vault 4's Fusion Core and thus destroying a community. The sheer brass nerve of Hank calling Moldaver a murderer, too...
Moldaver was a murderer...
...but Hank was a bigger one.
@@cutthr0atjake Yeah they both were murderers convinced of what they believed.
You know you've lost the moral high-ground when you go from "Don't listen to her, she's a murderer!" to "She's no different than me."
@@cutthr0atjake "hypocrisy is like violence in your movies, if only the bad guys use it the bad guys win" :P
It also puts into perspective Muldaver's raid on 33, although brutal, was much more measured than what Hank did to Shady sands
The nukes are absolutely dropped because of war. At best, Vault-Tek was a flash point - setting of a bomb or two somewhere someone took exception to and finally said 'fuck it, rocks fall. Everyone dies.; The Resource Wars that had brought the world and the nations to the edge of collapse were canonically still being fought when the bombs dropped so we KNOW the peace talks failed *without* a nuclear flashpoint. We see from the episode one future-past (after Coop and Barb divorce) that the world was on the brink of going nuclear, but hadn't yet. Probably because Vault-Tek needed a few years of near-nuclear tension to finish their Vaults before triggering a world wide MAD blitz with a well placed surgical strike.
wrong absolutely every nuke was dropped by vault tech and they were not actually dropped there is no missle stream they were set off on the ground
Right, if the nukes were only being dropped by Vault-Tec, then the news broadcasts would not have been so wary and Coop wouldn't have been resistant to giving the thumbs up. The news broadcasts show that peace talks were falling apart, whether through corporation influence or not. The board room meeting was more about Vault-Tec's commitment to the outcome, "We will drop the bombs ourselves if necessary."
One of the funniest facts is that if you're ever confused why Cold Fusion is so important when generators run of off Fusion Cores already, you'd be right to question it! The company that makes the Fusion Cores never actually unlocked fusion so they just lied by *titling* the product as a Fusion Core when in actuality it was just a normal fission reactor! Fallout is never very subtle with it's subtext.
I disagree. The fact there is oil, number of batteries called Fusion Cores, in a long run they all need resources or simply one time use then depleted. If you can make something that just works it means no matter what you have lot of power. Almost infinite since you cannot deplete it. Even Fusion reactors need enriched uranium as a fuel. Something.
Note 1 Fusion Core is enough for 1 block, 1 vault. Not for a City.
@@MolnarG007 Fusion reactors do not require enriched uranium as fuel lmao. Fission uses the breakdown of heavy elements like uranium. Fusion uses the...well fusion of lighter elements. Primarily hydrogen isotopes.
@@HiIeric117 Possibly i don't know but they still need very specific fuel, conditions. A powerful power source can be a massive asset, of course they all go for it.
So much we don't know how even Moldaver survived 200+ years, could be her own trick, access to a secret cryo but also possible she was kept by Vault Tec as a prisoner/blackmail/desperate time she agreed to be frozen. They kept her as a backup if they need Cold Fusion once their enemies died and they rule all they might need the scientist who eveloped it if theirs can't solve it. Also possible Rose when escaped from Vault 33 first found Vault 31, and she freed Moldaver and they fled together.
So all in all i have no issue with the plot and there are so many possibilities. Having even just refined oil as fuel is a hard thing in this world, getting uranium or whatever next to impossible. So Cold Fusion is a huge thing for all parties.
Wild theory, Vault Girl: we know Cooper was the Vault Boy, the inspiration. What if Steph was the original Vault Girl? Blonde, looks like a model or actress, we know she is from Vault 31 so she lived before the bombs fell. They needed a female for the advertisements too. If so she might even know Cooper, the actor, before the war. Would make good arc for later seasons.
I get what you’re saying about anti capitalism replacing the antiwar themes but I don’t know if that’s necessarily true. War and industry go hand in hand. It’s why they call it the military industrial complex. Behind every war you find people profiting from it, selling weapons and goods and getting massive research grants and investments from their countries governments and it could easily be argued that these entities perpetuate unnecessary wars for monetary gain when you examine how they use lobbying and back room deals to influence the governments that pay them. Since the setting is based on Cold War America, it makes sense to shine a light at that aspect of war.
Agreed, there’s no such thing as being anti-war in a modern context without also necessarily being anti-capitalist.
Came here to say the same thing. This finale literally exposes how Vaultec is still waging war via Hank bombing the NCR.
Fallout is far more than a critique of capitalism or war. Its anti a lot of things. Its anti communism, anti-war, anti all kinds of things as well. Don't believe me? The creators of fallout have said this themselves, look it up.
You can also have a lot of ideological positions while being anti-war. People are trying to oversimplify and box in complex and nuances and layered things, and it gets really old.
@@suddenimpulse030 Literally nobody here said Fallout is *only* about being anti-war and anti-capitalist. But those two positions are inexplicably linked in modern political science because of the outsize influence the incentives of capital has on conflict.
And yes, you can be anti-war and hold a variety of ideological beliefs at the same time, but if you want to be ideologically consistent; anti-war and anti-capitalist sentiment are mutually necessary.
And yes, the creators of Fallout were inspired by all sorts of things, including but not limited to lefty political philosophers, alt history authors like Kim Stanley Robinson, and classic sci-fi and pulp. And I’d say you’re the one trying to simplify things if you’re erasing the systemic reinforcement between conflict and capital, those are not separate systems, and that is *one* of the most obvious messages present in the classic games and the show.
@@spiraljumper74 I'll have to disagree on that one. Anti-capitalists in today's America are very much pro-war politically. While capitalists openly advocate (and even promise) ending them, and withdrawing forces.
What is a government? It’s a small group of people making the rules for the larger group of people. It’s JUST people. Those people can be elected or self appointed, religious or secular.
The fight between the Brotherhood and Moldaver’s people was one battle in the ongoing war for the wasteland. In real life, the fighting between criminal gangs in Haiti and what’s left of the last government is a war. Fighting between rival warlords is war. You don’t need a government for war. All it takes is people.
Funny how you say governments are just groups of people before labeling “criminal” gangs vs “the government”
It’s like, you’ve almost gotten to the point where you recognize the humanity in people but still can’t help but cling onto the labels and expectations society has decided to place on the lower classes.
If you want a real-life parallel of the cold fusion idea; consider how thorium based fission is so far behind uranium fission because it can't produce a weapons-grade byproduct.
Also the show describes the war as a resource one.
This. I was at a talk by Freeman Dyson and he mentioned that even way back in his General Atomics days (1950s) there were good avenues to produce safer, more controllable, nuclear reactors for power, but there was no interest in pursuing those avenues because of entrenched interests. This kind of thing, where selfish interests trump the greater good, happens all the time at all scales.
I mean, green energy vs. fossil energy is the other big one that we see constantly. Why do the oil companies push back so hard against green energy -- to the point of funding false or severely-tweaked versions of studies and "science" -- when moving away from fossil fuels is obviously the right move for the future (whether or not there's global warming)? Because the cost of retooling all the oil-based infrastructure you've been developing for 100 years in order to change it to green energy really cuts into those profits and there's no guarantee you'll be on top of a new market. Why switch over when you're already the top dog, even if the thing you're top dog of is doing incredible, long-lasting damage? It's greed and power-hunger, pure and simple.
We also saw it with tobacco companies back in the day. When science started to show that cigarettes were unhealthy and addictive, they funded their own "studies" that falsified or colored data in order to call the real studies into question. They didn't need to prove that cigarettes weren't unhealthy, they just needed to muddy the waters enough that they could argue "Well, the science isn't settled yet" and "there's no real proof that they're unhealthy, different studies say different things. In fact, look at this one..." There's not even a question that this happened. This has been proven with internal conversations that were leaked, etc.
As much as Nerdy would like to believe that real people wouldn't go against the thing that's better for the world just so they can keep their money/power, the world has proven that corpos and biz people do it all the time and will continue to do so as long as they're able to get away with it. When money and power are on the line, people get REAL short-sighted. Either that, or they learn to rationalize REAL hard.
@@johnplaysgames3120 To be fair we do NOT have the infrastructure to switch. Not the power grid that could take the load, nor grid-level battery tech that would balance out the intermittent nature of green energy. Neither it is actually green if you calculate the damage done by mining/trasport/disposal of the materials needed for solar and wind - and the batteries needed for them.
What we could do right now is switching over to mostly nuclear and hydro/geothermal where possible. And start the work on upgrading the grid so it can take the charging of cars/trucks.
@Nerdy Nightly, the games has always been VERY critical of capitalism (specifically unregulated or insufficiently regulated capitalism) this is less obvious in FO1 but FO2 starts to be very in your face that the corps created an outright dystopian society prior to the bombs falling, the games are also critical of war in general but the "war, war never changes" line was always a reference to the fact that the "end of the world" as the opening cinematic from new vegas put it "was just the start of another bloody chapter of human history".
Wars (other then potentially religious wars) have always been about acquiring resources, people, land, and money are every bit as much resources as iron, oil, and uranium, so fighting on any sizable scale for resources (even for survival) is still a war. The show very much shows a "war" between Vault-tec and The New California Republic (over the resource of people) and a war between the broken remnants of the NCR and the Brotherhood of Steel(who is a military organization) over the resource of power/energy, so the show did very much still show the constant threat and questionably unnecessary destruction of war.
Hank says he had to make a choice between "their violent society and our peaceful one" so he explodes a nuke killing 40k+ people... peacefully?
In his point of view they kill each other without Vault Tec, find a reason to. Also did he nuked Shady Sands? Oh because his nemesis Moldaver said it? Created a nuclear explosion at the location where a nuclear expert was trying to make a complex cold fusion reactor? OR? What if this is the second try? Moldaver tried to recreate her model, but the materials weren't good enough? Her reactor exploded? So she needed plan B, get her original system that was bought by Vault Tec before the war and were locked, encoded.
@@MolnarG007 What? No, Hank is clearly the villain here. He didn't even deny destroying Shady Sands.
@@testfire3000 Nor confirmed it. I'm not stating he wouldn't do it, all i'm saying we don't know. Moldaver just as evil, doing anything for her plan. In that scene Hank was messed up, shouting his daughter don't listen to Moldaver. All i'm saying there can be many details, even turn of things easily.
@@MolnarG007 That would be an interesting twist. But I think Hank would have said something. There was plenty of time for him to clear it up if he didn't do it.
I’d say fallout is first anti-capitalist while being anti-war. The reason the Great War started before the nukes dropped was entirely due to corporate greed and consumption leading to a massive resource war. I don’t think the messaging is changed at all.
Perfect example for Claroos’s point: ulcers used to be treated by a lifetime need for drugs that managed the symptoms but didn’t cure it. Then an antibiotic was developed that would cure many ulcers (not all), and a pharma company bought out the patent and killed it so that people had to stay on the life-long medicine rather than a week of meds and then cured. Took a lot of years before that particular injustice got fixed, and it’s not even slightly illegal so there was no punishment for doing, but assholes gonna asshole.
This is not a "reframing" of Fallout, it has always been a critique of capitalism.
true and it makes it even more ironic that the show is distributed by amazon 😄
How are American democrats not protesting this? Oh wait, they sided with communists in WW2 and are the reason Russia, China and North Korea existed.
And every time I point this out, my comments are deleted. By YooToob's AI? Or comment trolls?
Don't know. But there seem to be things we are not to say. Capitalism is Evil, for one. D's and R's are both pro-Fash-izm. You know, Truth. Setting deletion timer.
Fallout is far more than a critique of capitalism. Its anti a lot of things. Its anti communism, anti-war, anti all kinds of things as well. Don't believe me? The creators of fallout have said this themselves, look it up.
@@suddenimpulse030 Looks like I've had yet another innocuous comment about the message of Fallout deleted.
[⚠ strawman alert ⚠] Who said this series was _ONLY_ a critique of Kappitalizm? It's about the love of a father for his daughter, with 3 different cases shown (Cooper/Janey, Hank/Lucy, Ponch/Sandra).
It's about two people arriving at a similar moral space from opposite directions; Maximus being clueless, endlessly failing upward, being extremely mistrustful, becoming a more ethical team player, while Lucy is goofily trusting and polite, a "golden rule" preacher, learning to mistrust others and defend herself, while maintaining her moral core in the face of horrid acts of betrayal.
Shall I continue? Or can we dispense with putting words in other's mouths in order to feel like we're making an important point?
The writing is so solid on this show it took me a few rewatches before I realized Lucy's dad truly does love her, and might be shocked by it. Gives the code after Lucy tells him too, didn't ever try to hurt Lucy (just failed every speech check), even had no problem offing the mom and the town just because his daughter was put into danger according to him. Awesome details.
Keep in mind, because they're breeding super "future managers", Hank's protectiveness of Lucy probably goes beyond love. She is part of their eugenics program to rule the world.
Seeing that last shot of Hank headed to New Vegas gave me such joy as a Fallout fan. I cant wait for season 2.
It did look nuked though.
@sdinvt is that for certain? I’m not a player, and I thought it looked like the Seattle skyline🤔
@@ksl3240 the end credits on the final city show a new vegas sign so yeah it's pretty certain.
@@Rert @ksl3240 Also, that's definitely the tower and the skyline from New Vegas. Look up pics of New Vegas from the game and you'll see that exact same tower, as well as the general shape and size of the city. Players are VERY familiar with how it looks.
Plus, in the meeting of all the corpos at Vault-Tec (where Barb says the "War... war never changes" line), we see Robert House, head of RobCo, who roasts the other guy by saying he could "lose money running a casino." And anyone who's played New Vegas knows that none of those little teaser-nuggets are accidental. Without the final shot of New Vegas and the "Welcome to New Vegas" sign in the closing animation, you could just chalk up the Mr. House and "casino" stuff as easter eggs for the fans but, given the outro of the episode, I think it's 1000% certain we're going to New Vegas next.
@@johnplaysgames3120 Vegas is definitely more intriguing than Seattle! Thanks, I appreciate the informed answer without spoilers🙏🏻
The seacon conclude with the legendary city of all Fallout games... New Vegas
This sh¡t is cinema 🍷😎👌
"the legendary city of all Fallout games"
Vault City ?
New Reno ?
Oh you mean new Vegas... meh
You do realize that being anti capitlist doesn't mean you're not anti war. They're not mutually exclusive, it can be both.
If anything, they’re mutually necessary for ideological consistency. At least in a modern paradigm of global capitalism.
Yes but people forget that the Soviet Union also did a good bit of war, and it was certainly not capitalist
@@lazymansload520 Hey, why was America and Western Europe at war with the Soviet Union again? Why did America and Western European nations invade Afghanistan and all those Latin American and and African countries?
I would also argue that Market Leninism with a centrally planned economy and oligarchal structure is just capitalism with extra steps. Or at least it expresses the same way in terms of labor and market relations.
In any case, nearly every military action the Soviet Union undertook post WW2 was a proxy front in a socialist country that had been invaded by Western capital. This included many countries undergoing the process of decolonization and democratization, who had unfortunately made the decision to elect a socialist leader.
If you want to try and argue that those military actions weren’t at the behest of global capital, I’d be interested in hearing it I suppose. But I don’t think it’s going to have the weight of historical record or established scholarship behind it.
@@spiraljumper74 the Soviet Union had plenty of military interventions friend. If you think they didn’t, it’s because you don’t want to know the truth.
@@lazymansload520 I just said they did. I can think of a couple that were purely imperial in ambition. But again, if you don’t think those interventions were undertaken due to the nature of global capital, you are not in full possession of the facts or a materialist perspective that is capable of usefully interpreting history.
Simply by saying “The Soviet Union certainly was not capitalist” as a way to implicitly absolve capital of War in the modern era, you signal a lack of understanding of the organization of the country and the political and economic incentives it was operating under.
Moldaver was right, but you gotta admit she probably could have handled the kidnapping of Hank without brutally slaughtering so many innocent people in Vault 33.
They're both villains who were in positions of power, willing to murder whoever it takes to get what they want. I don't really separate the two personally. If the writers wanted me to sympathise with Moldaver for some reason, they should have rewritten her murderous, blatantly psychotic nature of the first episode.
@@MrPicklerwoofThere is no good guys nor even bad guys in Fallout. There are just factions. Each fighting for their goal and doing good and bad things in the process. That is Fallout.
@@elvisibraThen you have a terrible understanding of what Fallout is.
You literally internalized the desperate and pathetic justifications a manipulative corporate narcissist was using to lie to his daughter. Big L. BIG.
@@spiraljumper74 Except. Hank was overseer 33 Vault from 2271 to 2297. After he was gone, Betty got elected AGAIN i.e. she was overseer before Hank even got to 33, and in flashback she was already little bit older and above him in line. Also, Bud and others from 31, then Barb and the Enclave from X Vault overseeing ALL. How about that? No? You got emotionally manipulated by "Moldaver" who's REAL (1st)name you don't even know (real surname Williams).
Welcome to the Fallout my friend. All you have to do now is to understand it.
@@elvisibra What do you actually think you just proved? I was saying you fundamentally do not understand the philosophical and political satire of Fallout because you were claiming that at the series center is a simple message that everyone is morally grey and it’s just about factional combat.
That’s not Fallout, that aspect of the series has been focused on in Bethesda games because it allowed them to create a fallout setting with their standard template of faction quests, it’s a game design consideration and not a central pillar to the thematic messaging of the series. You are engaging with surface level critiques and themes, seeing the tip of the iceberg and thinking it’s the whole.
This isn’t just me pulling shit out of my ass, the original creators and writers have done tons of interviews over the years talking about the authors and philosophers and media that inspired them when creating fallout. Spoiler alert, it’s a bunch of leftist political scientists and anti-capitalist sci-if writers who had a fuck of a lot more to say than just “factions bad, everybody bad, no systemic analysis or critique.”
Have the last word, because you’re Dunning Kruger *way* too hard for me to engage with at length. “Welcome to Fallout friend, all you have to do now is understand it.” Said with the blithe assurance of someone who is too ignorant to understand how little they understand.
It's really fun when you have closed captioning on.
When Bud speaks it says "brain on a Roomba"
"If war doesn't change, men must change, and so must their symbols."
-Ulysses, 2281
“It seems like they kinda took out the anti-war theory from the story, and made it more about anti-capitalism.”
And that, my friends, is called missing the forest for the trees.
It’s implied that Maldavers became wealthy off selling the cold fusion. She most likely had her own shelter/cryo tube or had a spot in a vault.
The fact she invented it doesn't mean she got rich when they bought her companies, labs.
@@MolnarG007 Well where does the money go when something is bought? To the previous owner, they were her companies. Coop even says she's very rich.
The funny thing is people in vault 31 are also just a part of the experiment the real leaders are probably vault 0 or vault 1
There is one question I haven't heard a single reaction channel ask. And this is that of all the people from 31, who clearly worked for Vault Tec before the bombs dropped, there is one we haven't seen in the flashbacks and that is of course Stephanie One Eye. So the question is, who was she and what did she do at Vault Tec ? They set her up as part of the comic relief duo but I'm betting it might be misdirection and she'll be more important than we expect.
101097 the code Hank McClain entered was the date of the first Fallout Game release.
Maybe I am being a bit obtuse, but I don't think Vault tech dropped the bomb. We had confirmation that they were willing to do so, but not confirmation that they DID drop it. I find it hard to believe that Barb would drop the bomb when her daughter was not already safe in a vault.
Yeah and the fact that in the games, there were vaults that were unfinished. People need to learn that all answers aren't instantly revealed in Fallout. They aren't going to reveal everything in season 1. Most TV shows don't do that either, as there would be no point in watching if you gave everything away so fast.
It's still likely china dropped the bombs as the US were developing bio-weapons that were outlawed and China told them to stop after finding out about it but the US ignored them and kept working on FEV that they tried hiding, so china dropped the bombs, the US fired back and the world went dark as other nations dropped bombs. This is according to Tim Cain the original creator of Fallout. He watched the show and said he doesn't believe Barb would abandon her daughter, so they didn't drop the first bombs.
The vaults I remember that were not finished were vault 114 and vault 88.
I'd think that by that point, even if Barb does have her mind changed by Cooper, there'd be no way for her to stop what she started. If Vault-Tec didn't drop the bombs they certainly had their own 31-32-33 Vaults perfectly ready to go. Since their plan is to wait out the overworld chaos and reintegrate with their eugenics programme why would they need or even want to wait for other vaults to be finished? The only answer to that would be so they have more future customers but since they're conspiring with other massive companies, and at that time they already "own half of everything", it's totally in the realms of possibility that they purposefully dropped the nukes early before the other corporations got their ducks in a row.
A point in favour of your Barb hypothesis is that she isn't guaranteed to be in Vault 31 and neither is Janey. Their names might have been hidden when Norm's looking through the records for spoiler reasons but if they're not it suggests that Barb & Janey, as well as Cooper, didn't get in to the Vault that was meant for them, 31. Cooper looking for his family also suggests that Barb took Janey after the nukes were dropped, I guess we'll find out if that happened instantly or if it took years, but Cooper asking Hank where they were suggests that he somehow lost Janey to Barb pretty soon after the bombs dropped.
The show did not move from anti-war to anti-capitalism. War is almost always in service of capitalism.
The fact that war existed before capitalism would make that statement false.
@@tannerlink566 As an actual governmental concept, yes. But what the deeper statement says is that "war is about taking other people's stuff." People frequently justify wars with ideologies, notions of security, righteousness, etc, but it almost always ultimately comes down to taking people's stuff, or the means to get stuff.
@@tyramir1119 I recognize this is a trivial point, but taking other people stuff would be antithetical to capitalism. Once goods are taken by force, it no longer fits the definition of capitalism, which is the free exchange of goods. I challenge your implied definition of capitalism, but I ultimately agree with your overarching point.
Oh, they're not re-framing the Fallout games as being anti-capitalist. They were always carrying that message.
Falloutio? Also Clarus, that dark lip color looks fantastic, great choice! Also, when brain Bud is introduced the captions referred to him as like "Brain on a roomba" or something like that, its a great day to have audio processing issues.
Also also I hope we do see more of Dallas Goldtooth's Charlie. Absolutely loved him in Reservation Dogs
I wonder if Amazon chose to put 'brain on a Roomba' in the subtitles before or after their $1 billion iRobot acquisition failed.
If Goosey Lucy married Gary Busey she'd be Goosey Lucy Busey. Now that's juicy! 😉
LOL
I have a feeling they will continue doing flashbacks in season two where they can flesh out Moldaver, The Ghoul, and Hank/Henry's characters. Possibly even Wilzig and his involvement with the vaults. So I don't think this is the last we'll see of those actors on the show.
Muldaver is more cunning than you think. She needed a Vault tec executive's code to activate the cold fusion. Lucy's mom was the perfect mark. If hank really loved her, he would give the code for her life. If not then the kids were a perfect back up. Hank is not wrong when he stated that Muldaver was the same as him. Maximus said it best that everybody is trying to save the world, they just can't agree on how.
Muldaver did not have the Cold Fusion back then and hence no use of his access codes. He is talking BS.
It is about WHO has the POWER, Always...
She also led a raiding party on Lucy's vault and murdered a lot of Lucy's friends.
No one is wholly good.
TBF though she only did it to the overseer who nuked her town, kidnapped her lover's children, and killed her lover while waiting with that info for years before doing anything about it. If war never changes her response was tepid at best!
As Maximus said, "Everybody wants to save the world, they just disagree on how." That's generally true and we see it IRL. The idea of a supervillain who just wants to "destroy the world" is an idea that comes from movies and stories, but is super rare IRL (bc the villain, unless they're suicidal, have to live in the world too). Most people, groups, and nations that are fighting each other IRL are doing so because they think only THEY know what the real problems are and how to fix them. Or else they're trying to guarantee their own safety and the safety of their people. And who's the safest? Whoever's running the show and making the rules.
We see it all the time with the Left vs. Right stuff in the US today. The people at the top who are manipulating the game for their own benefits -- on both sides -- use propaganda to pit half the people against the other half (because fear and anger = votes and money). They tell you that your neighbor who supports the other political party is an "enemy of the state," that they "hate this country and want to destroy it," etc. The truth is, none of us want that. We all live here and no one wants to live in a collapsed, dangerous, uncomfortable world. And we certainly don't want to subject our children to that. The thing is, we disagree on what the problems are and how to fix them.
We could get granular about it and talk about how the reason we disagree on the problems to such a great degree is because we've been manipulated into thinking we're constantly on the brink of disaster and, in that tizzy of fear, we're then fed whatever "facts" they want us to believe to get us to donate to their cause, vote for them, and DEFINITELY not vote for the other party. But the base of it still comes down to the truth that, as much as you might disagree with your neighbor politically, both of you still want the same thing: Food, shelter, and safety for you and your family. Period. You just disagree on why you feel like you don't have it, and you disagree on what needs to be done to get there.
Nobody is actually trying to "destroy" the country or the world. They might end up doing it by using their propaganda and gamesmanship to push society too close to the brink, causing us to accidentally go over the edge in a big whoopsie, but, outside of the very rare crazy F-er who thinks they're the Joker, nobody actually wants to blow everything up because then they'd have to live in the aftermath too. Or die in it.
Haven't you heard. War is profitable. Throughout history, most wars were fought to make someone rich. War and capitalism goes hand in hand. Even is Communist countries when there is war, someone is getting rich from it.
I was going to say. Also, the Fallout games have long had a streak of satire aimed at corporations and the managerial mindset.
Just a quick note to point out, importantly, that "cold fusion" is not a thing and it can never be a thing. It's just another label for what was once called "alchemy." The issue is simply that the atom is mostly empty space and its nucleus is so incredibly small that it is untouched and unaffected by chemistry. However, plain old "hot fusion" is making progress, and it's hypothetically possible that within a century or two we will figure out how to produce more energy output than it costs to induce fusion. Fingers crossed!
An interesting idea that I think exist in the subtext of the show, especially and specifically in this last episode, is that, yes, the corporations and capitalism as a whole create the problem (here the nuke that blew Shady Sands) and then consequently two differing ideas come about. First, Moldaver’s faction which are ideologically kinda communist/socialist who seem not necessarily motivated by revenge (considering that Moldaver wanted Hank for the codes first and foremost and not to kill him) but instead by the struggle to rebuild and create a better society than before. Second, The Brotherhood who seem to be more cults/authoritarian/fascistic who seek power and whom gain a following as a result of the catastrophe (for instance Maximus who joined the brotherhood after the bombing of Shady Sands).
To hammer in the point, if we take real life example and see how it compares to the theme in the show such as lets say inequality or unemployment (problems born from capitalism in our current organization of the economy), there are two reactions to the problem. One, from leftists or at least progressives who aim to uplift and find a way to improve society and recognize that the problem at hand is indeed systematic, and then more right wing individuals who might instead lean towards authoritarianism to solve the problem (like for instance voting for Trump to stop the immigrants from coming in, whereby right wingers might believe that “immigrants will take our jobs” or whatever).
Eh, kind of wrong, BOTH Left/Right *extremes* are "authoritarian" (see Stalin, Mao etc) because they are determined to impose their will on others regardless of cost to others.
"The ends justifies the means" causes a lot of harm and even outright evil, and the Fallout stories always deeply and wisely explored this like all very good fiction
"Capitalism/Socialism" are neither good/bad, both in ways are valid strategies, but every single time, scumbags, zealots and morons take any useful thing and turn it to crap, it's inevitable, it's literal Human Nature alas :(
"Power attracts the worst and corrupts the best"
30:00 I believe that Moldaver was frozen for the duration. Cryotubes are not unique to Vault 31, we see them being used in Vault 4 as well, and whatever the protagonist's vault in Fallout 4 was.
She probably had her own cryotube bunker somewhere. I assume she was rich before the Great War, from selling cold fusion to Vault-Tec. In one flashback she says "Vault-Tec bought every company I ever worked for." It's even possible that cryotubes were invented by one of those companies.
It is possible her company was sold she as a scientist didn't get rich. Also possible last second she got offer for Vault 31, as a prisoner. So when Vault Tec Rules the world they have the scientist prisoner to defrost who can make Cold Fusion 100%, in case own studies fail.
She likely didn't go by Muldaver back then. Cooper recognized the face, but the name meant nothing to him.
I agree, unlikely vault 31, but maybe she found a way into 4?
She was called "Ms. Williams" in the flashbacks.
When the big corporations are saying what experiments they think they want in their vaults, all of those were actual experiments in vaults in the Fallout games./ Robert House who run RobCo says to the head of BigMT, "You could lose money running a casino"; in Fallout New Vegas Robert House runs the casinos in New Vegas./ The code that Hank enters - 101097 - was the day that the first Fallout game was released./ When the Ghoul shoots he uses the same shot guidance that is called VATS in the game (make any shot, target specific limbs, etc.)/ The Ghoul's saying, "Feo fuerte y formal" means "he was ugly, strong, and had dignity" and is what John Wayne wanted to be etched on his tombstone./ One theory that I've seen about Muldaver is that she went to another big corporation and told them she made cold fusion and they put her in cryo./ (Nikola Tesla invented an electric car, as well as a radio controlled boat, radio, the type of electricity we use today, X-ray photography, neon lights, hydroelectric power, induction motors, before 1898)
They explained it. Moldaver was forced to work with Vaul-tec after they bought several tech corporations including all of the companies that she worked for. That's how Moldaver knew several of the Valt-tec executives including Barb Howard. One of these corporations invented cryonics. Some of Moldaver's first followers were Vault-tec executives. They built their own Cryo pods.
Big MT is short for Big Mountain, or Big Mountain Research and Development Center, which was a privately owned pre-War defense contractor, industrial site and research center located south of Hopeville in 2281 beneath a mountain. Serving as the game-world for the Fallout: New Vegas add-on Old World Blues, the research conducted within was as groundbreaking as it was unethical, after the fall, it became known in the wasteland as the "Big Empty," a place where nothing exists. That isn't an accurate description, however. It's a fun DLC for fans of Venture Brothers, and darkly humorous retro futurism in general, and who among us doesn't? We're Fallout fans after all.
I often forget names too but like "Maximus" is kinda hard to forget , it was Russel Crowe's name in "Gladiator" , it's also the longer version of "Max" , a super easy name to remember wiith 3 letters .Even Clarus was like 😐--> it's Maximus.
I've watched a bunch of reactions for Fallout and i think you guys are the only ones who picked up the Moldaver/Lucy's mum relationship vibes. You are both very perceptive. Great reaction, can't wait for s2!
I honestly was really young when I played Fallout 1, I know I did find the water chip and don't remember it being too hard. I didn't remember too much about the game, but when I saw the announcement of Fallout 3 and realized we'd be getting Fallout in 3D and open world, I remember shedding a tear of joy, didn't even know why (I guess my brain remembered how good the OG Fallout was). Playing Fallout 3 was fantastic, spent a ton of time playing and can't wait for you to get to playing that, it's a bomb.
40:55 Very well said, the problem is the "othering." That's the mainstay in the series and game franchise. As Maximus said, everyone wants to make the world better they just can't agree on how. Very much enjoyed your reactions to the episodes, and I thank you for pacing it out giving me (us?) something to look forward to each week.
War and Capitalism are pretty intimately intertwined.
But I also agree about the rephrasing of “War never changes” from Barb, but not really in the same way: she’s speaking as someone on the OTHER side of the equation, the family at home waiting for the war to end and for their love ones to come home. There’s SO much trauma behind that phrase and behind her actions. That actress is excellent.
Hell, Barb is probably my favorite character. I love a “villain” whose actions are simultaneously batshit insane but are also perfectly consistent with their internal logic.
So here's a funny thing with patents, in order to get one, you *have* to spill the beans on the process. This is why Cola doesn't have a patent for Coke, and why McDonalds doesn't have a patent for the big mac sauce. Its specifically so they don't have to reveal the ingredients. That way the patent also won't lapse after 10 years.
20 years, in the US at least.
The Fallout Vertibird is a version of a VTOL - Vertical Take Off & Land which have existed for decades.
On a scale of 1-nuclear how much of an overreaction did Hank have to a custody dispute? LOL
Wars, by definition, doesn't have to be fought between governments. any two factions involved in an armed conflict (hand, projectile, energy, etc) can be said to be in a war. in the context of this show, aside from the 'evil' corpos, its additionally about the unprecedented power of greed, and the illusion of control that having power gives.
We learned something today: don't trust your family too much. People are assholes.
If you enable subtitles, the brain "Bud" character name appears as "Brain on a Roomba"
The things your noting in the shows anti capitalist stuff overriding some of the anti war stuff is actually a debate had about the games too. It’s felt that as the games go on they also lose a lot of the anti war stuff. And because of how modern gaming works… the anti capitalist stuff feels weird in a game with a battle pass. It’s definitely an interesting element to the series overall. Also even the post war on terror fallouts have slowly kind of harbored a weird reclamation of patriotism thing as well that feels a bit at odds with the first set of games.
Like a lot of these kinds of stories, once they become long running series and have recognizable IP any message and satire runs the risk of subsuming itself and creating dissonance. But in the end, I suppose that’s the eternal struggle of art with purpose trying to survive in a world that views art solely as entertainment to make money off of.
i read that they were writing season 2 while making season 1 so that there would be less of a gap between them. so hopefully that means a sharper turn around. i am also really wondering how muldaver is still around. and I do think that a company would hide the tech to save the world if they thought it would interfere with their profits selling shorter term fixes or like in fallout selling the end of the world (vaults etc) which hinge on there being a problem. a business would rather everyone die than them not make more money now. and I have read about research to cure diseases getting close and being bought out by companies that sell drugs for those diseases because they make more money off of treating people long term than they do curing them. so yeah that is a thing. greed is stronger than ethics for a large amount of people.
I don't know if you guys are aware but there was a show that came out not too long ago set in the universe of Neil Gaiman's sandman universe that is pretty good. Its called dead boy detectives. its worth the reaction
12:00 Because War…..War never changes.
there is cloning in fallout show they could bring her back that way
The drive to acquire resources, either because of greed or desperation, is the causal factor of all war. War is just a tool used to take something desired by force at the expense of human suffering. The series didn't re-frame anything, it just expands the view of it.
To be fair, what Moldaver wanted was good but she killed all those people in Vault 33. Hank is still wrong, but Moldaver is still malicious
There’s another explanation for Muldaver’s “immortality” that is a major plot thread in Fallout 4. It also sets up the notion of “Flame Mother” and makes it possible for her return in future seasons.
Now...imagine Liberty Prime with infinite energy...or even Liberty Primes...
Heck, even just being able to consistently recharge fusion cores, or run large amounts of manufacturing equipment. The Brotherhood could amass and maintain a considerable arsenal for use in controlling the wasteland.
Also war isnt just nations fighting. Its the conflict of the human conditions. Conflict itself is war. Industrialized warfare is not the only type of war
What an unexpected delight this show turned out to be.
Yup that's the new vegas strip from the game! It'll probably be a major thing in the next season.
Greetings from Hungary!
"What's with the flags?!"
Oh,boy,are you in for a treat for Season 2...Or you could check Fallout's Lore in Oxhorn's Channel.
SMALL SPOILER: At 27:52, you see the town of New Vegas which is the namesake of the game: Fallout: New Vegas. That was, or maybe still is(we yet to know which ending of New Vegas is canon) owned by a certain individual who you saw in the conference room scene.
And EpicNate! Both are a wealth of information!
Moldaver's background isn't explained much, but she knew Cooper's wife, it seemed to imply they worked together. Her life's work was bought out by Vaultec, part of that deal may have been a way for her to survive into the future. Not sure, but I do think she was in Vault 31. She knew Lucy's mother long enough to love her, and we don't know exactly how long it was after she came out of Vault 33 to when Shady Sands was destroyed. If it was a short amount of time, they likely met in the vault.
Not sure of course, I just feel like there's enough context clues to say it's likely.
war is an armed conflict between groups of interest; whether on a large scale such as between nations/corporations or on a small scale as tribes, war never changes. Its essence its to take by force that of what we need of others: money, land, food, power, attention, anything. In all of society, at every level, with any tool, war is what humans do:
"But it was not, as some had predicted, the end of the world. Instead, the apocalypse was simply the prologue to another bloody chapter of human history. For man had succeeded in destroying the world - but war, war never changes" (Fallout 3 intro).
Agreed, but don't you think there's an essential difference in wars such as those fought during feudal times over resources and whatever else and wars under a more late-stage capitalist era whereby the tools of war are manufactured by corporations whom, in the interest of their own bottom line, would be incentivized to prolong war as long as possible? For example, in a war between a two kings over a piece of land both sides would want it done as swiftly as possible, the end goal is simply to have the land, but in a capitalist society where corporations manufacture the weapons (thus war cannot be fought without them) yes the stated interest might be resources or land or whatever else but there would a more obscure influence from the corporations that pushed to prolong the conflict as long as possible to extract the most profit.
@@alwaleed2k3 yes there is a difference but I would not call it essential also WAR NEVER CHANGES...😅
27:15
"There's a thing called an orgasm, it's a good thing!"
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I hope season two goes more into how cooper became a ghoul, in the beginning of the show when the bombs drop we see him running away on a horse with his daughter and then the next time we see him is 200 years later when hes dug up from that grave by the bounty hunters. I'd love to see where he went with his daughter instead, what became of her. And the process of him turning into a ghoul and how he copes with his flesh decaying and his nose falling off and adjusting to the nuclear wasteland and the nuclear winter he must have experienced, the wildlife mutating into monsters over the decades. I hope we get to see all of this.
I also thought the show changed the meaning behind "war never changes" at first, but I went back to the very first Fallout game intro to check, and it basically says war is always caused by human greed. The show expanded on it to say and there are always a small group of people who benefit from wars pulling the strings.
Yeah. That's why we need to end wars, not start and definitely not support people intent on funding them. Just now, many people will be able to vote on this very issue.
Shady Sands was started by ex-vault dwellers...I knew that middle management wanted to rule the world. lol
Maldeva invented cold fusion. I am very sure she has no problems building a cryo capsule, the plans of which already exist. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to come up with this idea or simply steal one. I am also sure that corporate espionage does not only work one-sidedly. So, it's safe to assume that Cooper wasn't the only person who could persuade Maldeva to spy. That's how she may have come up with plans for a cryo machine. She doesn't have to have built it herself either. After all, she is not alone with her worldview, as everyone could see. The decapitated professor also worked for her. He developed cold fusion and not Maldeva. This will not be the only professor who works for her.
I think Maximus is built into a villain.
The first step was to wish that something bad would happen to his friend so that he would become a squire.
2. His desire is to hurt the people who hurt him.
3. He watches someone die and doesn't help.
4. Attempts at good deeds often go wrong.
5. He is a liar and lies again and again for his own benefit.
6. He loves power and feels unworthy without his suit.
7. Almost without hesitation, he wants to kill his squire, even though he didn't even say clearly that he would betray him.
8. He is willing to extinguish an entire community for his energy core. The only reason he doesn't is Lucy. And Lucy first had to persuade him not to do it. Even when she explains to him the consequences if he keeps the core, he says no. Only when Luzy says that her father wouldn't want that does he give the core back for her love and not because he has a guilty conscience.
9. The only good influence Maximus had is Lucy and the two are now separated again and he gets power in a toxic environment with bad influence.
10. He is not particularly clever and easily manipulated, easily influenced.
I often see borrowings from "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" Western.
Lucy is the Good
Maximus is the Bad
Ghul is the Ugly
9:08 BiG MT, Big Mountain Time
“THAT’S VEGAS BABY!!!”
The ghoul is just too cool
One of the most boring characters on the show. Way better pre war. The writing is just too 'try hard' for him.
@@volourn9764 Sure. Now walk off from your dads pc
You aren't an idiot for not knowing what an osprey is!
Remember that most mean youtube comments come from sad people who don't know how to interact with others IRL.
To the depths of the nine hells with negative comments; those folks can go get a therapist.
Thanks for the reaction, you two. It was a lot of fun to see what you guys think of my favorite series!
But the Osprey is a bird.
Like F-15 Eagle or F-16 Falcon or lesser known BAE Hawk.
Guess we're missing the Chicken, Cock, or Ostrich 🤣
She was a scientist. She worked at different companies that she said Vaulttech bought up besides her main project cold fusion. Cryogenic could be one of those companies. Vault 111 ( Fallout 4) was one that used that technology. So I don't see it far fetched that she had a cryopod maybe with some past coworkers. Wilzig is a interesting puzzle piece. He is definitely pre war. Whether he worked for Vaulttech briefly or cause he is Enclave ( remnants of the U.S. government) so he knows all of Vaulttech's products. But how would he know Moldaver or Williams that was her surname back then. That is the mystery.
I am intrigued how they are going with season 2 with New Vegas. Cause being in the Fallout community, there are Fallout fans, then there are Fallout New Vegas fans. They were getting rabid hearing this show bombed Shady Sands. NCR Capitol in New Vegas game.
5:22 Bud's car there is also a real car. It's a Messerschmitt KR 200 (KabinenRoller, i.e., cabin scooter) which was made by the Messerschmitt aircraft company in Germany in the early 50s. Amazingly, it seats two people in a "tandem configuration" (one behind the other).
My father actually owned one of these around 1960. He says it was a great car. Cheap, reliable, excellent mileage. The german nickname for these was "Schneewittchensarg," meaning "Snow White's coffin." Because of the glass bubble canopy, not because it was a death trap.
While I personally think it's neat that the show is using real cars from the 50s, it actually belies a pretty big misunderstanding of the Fallout setting that's a huge point of contention among diehard Fallout fans.
I don't think it's a misunderstanding, I think it's a production cost thing. They keep the retro-futuristic look going without having to spend a fortune on CGI recreating vehicles from the games. And the only actual driveable car in the Fallout games - FO2's Highwayman - was a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air/Plymouth Belvedere hybrid. Quite literally 1950's cars. Its not as contentious as some people are claiming.
That's what the model is based on, but these cars show up in the games, too. In-universe it's called the Fusion Flea.
Rob-Co ceo is Mr House and he didnt say yes!!! So that is why he didnt know the exact date of the bomb drop.
Really love this channel and how good yall's dialogue is !
Ive heard of "The Princess And The Pea". Never seen until Now, "THE PRINCESS & THE DORK".. 😄😁😎 All good, 😉salute to you...Gunslinger..😎
Anyone catch Hank's password.. 101097.. release date of 1st fallout
5:08 Very retro/futuristic cars! Bud is driving an early 50s Messerschmitt KR200 and Coop is driving a 1954 Kaiser Darrin!
Don't confuse Magnus and Maximus.
Maximus betray!
Magnus did not betray!
YOU SHOULD REACT DEAD BOY DETECTIVES IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT!! It’s a super good show, and it’s connected to the sandman universe, and not enough people are talking about it out it!!!
The 30 first min of fallout 3 you learn all you need to know about life in a vault , and New vegas learn you by playing a "courier " a messenger in the wasteland the organisation of cities and the RNC ( republic of new california and many different factions very quickly )
I hope they can show New Vegas without actually choosing a canon ending
Fallout Series is wonderful...Anxiously waiting for the second season. The construction of each of the characters, the evolution of each one of them is very cool... "Okey-dokey"
Will we have Fallout 4 gameplay?
Budd Really has a thing for tiny vehicles doesn't he?
Man traded in a budget Smart car for a MiGo brain cylinder.
You also see Vaulties in:
The 100 (tv series)
Logan's Run (tv series)
Cyborg (the movie)
Paranoia (TTRPG)
Cooper was working birthday parties for Alimony. They were divorced (with cause 🤔) before the bombs... And he either won custody or was on a visitation day.
*Big MT* is "Big Mountain" and very extreme, unethical, military science research complex.
Sinclair plays a major "off camera" role in Fallout New Vegas DLC Dead Money, which is about the smartest computer game story I have EVER enjoyed! Really, really deep, eerie !