I have created Vocal Workouts for each voice type. Check out the Playlists below: Tenor Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5RM6Kom2wdAkyXSgUkcNdSsX Baritone Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5ROLew-jEgJy2MjnAywkORbm Bass Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5ROZax1Bjt98PJggsQmPbL7Y Soprano Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5RPbOQVtkHqswOhCgRn7qMbd Mezzo Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5RMirezj6ij0LM2EV9XNE7-Q Alto Workouts: ruclips.net/p/PLNz17Ilnj5RPUXaarbMSftLtHNl_yNaXJ
I need a little help understanding one thing... during the primo passagio test I was comfortable in chest voice throughout the scale ... my secondo passagio is an F5 and my range was an F3 to just above a C6 (test was performed without vocal warmup ) help?
I hit A2 - C5 , my primo passagio is in Mi4 and my escond is in La4, what voice type am i? Im tenor but what voice subtype, im Daniel Real singer, i have many songs
First all of u need to be able to sing properly from diaphram. If u not using ur diaphram properly ur larynx will rise faster than it shud. That why we can read comments like B3 primo and G4 secondo passagio ... Btw: My lowest note G2 with fry F2 Primo - C4# Secondo - F4# Highest note - G5 And even im 33 i have very bright tone with little dark timbre so im guessing im Dramatic Tenor.
@@grace-dm1jl Hey!!!! It sounds like you're an alto! You may eventually mature into a mezzo soprano as you get older. Only time will tell. Tell Naruto I said hi! :)
Male vs. female notes is weirdly restrictive and inaccurate - there are alto men, tenor women, etc, and as a nonbinary person I think we should stop gendering notes in the first place. Sing where you're comfortable and expand your range from there.
@@theWeaverofTales I agree. I've been labeled an alto but I can very easily go down into the tenor range and I really struggle with high notes even though I'm female. I think it's annoying how everything has to be labeled with a gender.
@@bee2731 You'd be surprised how often accidentally harmonizing is among non- professional singers. Especially when they have trouble singing out. Learn some actual singers terminology before you decide to make rude comments on others singing abilities okay?
I consider myself a baritone but I was in boys choir when I was young so I’m kinda like a baritenor lol, but like u said I can’t do this range for long, I had a teacher in college take me up to an aflat above the staff but that was only once lol
Thank you. I had always considered myself an alto, primarily because I sang in the alto section in choral groups. But I could slip into a soprano part if the piece does not go above E5. This session indicates I am more a mezzo, and that feels right to me.
Most females singing 'alto' are actually mezzos - the comments about contraltos being rare are genuinely true. Not white rhino rare, but still unusual. I honestly think there are also a lot of mezzos singing the sop lines (usually the ones who have to stick to the tune and can't hold a part!)
@@lilyfel2118 I know at least one male soprano and several male altos, and I've sung tenor in choir - so it's possible. However, if you're not trained then you might just not be used to using your head voice. Your passaggio points are probably a better indicator than your extreme range, especially at the top end.
seems like I am joining the lady tenor club: Range: C3 - C6, Primo at D4, Secondo at A4 - I've been singing everythin from low Alto to high Soprano in Choir... I feel betrayed.
I must say, you've explained this better than my treble chorus teacher! I've always wondered why even some lower alto note were a little to high for me, turns I'm more comfortable in a baritone/tenor range(both feel pretty comfortable to me)
Sadly, I'm not able to transfer to the Bass Chorus my school has do to personal reason. I can explain if someone wants but won't if someone doesn't ask.
@@-Teague- Ahh sorry was at school. So, the bass chorus at my school is guys only and my school doesn't really agree with the fact that I'm trans(ftm) so even if I signed up for bass chorus, they would put me in treble chorus. I don't take choir anymore because of it.
Don’t forget contraltos! I feel like this is often described as a “rare” female voice type but it seems to be more common than one thinks. The contralto register divides are confusing because the chest register is larger than the other female voice types, so it’s hard to place yourself using your chart. But other than that, the exercises in this video are great and very helpful!
Wow I came here to comment exactly the same thing, I'm a female and the whole video was very confusing for me until I saw the final chart, where I would be a Tenor with a higher range at the top. I guess this is what they call Contralto. I've always known that I had a deep voice but I don't feel like it is rare, I've met other female singers with low voices like mine, and generally most female singers can sing the same songs as me (I always choose the ones in low register because my voice is stronger there)
For sure! I'm female, and now have a range of B2 to F/G5. I can comfortably sing A4 in chest voice, although my normal speaking voice is A3. I sing tenor in my chorale.
That’s the song daddy sang bass momma sang tenor. I think it’s about the voice we develop, since higher notes are more valued , but also contralto or tenor females are the male bass equivalent and they usually don’t fully develop their lows until after 40. Soprano(high C) in high school by placement but more mezzo by where my voice say and once I hit 40, tenor on a good day and lower with subharmonic. Any of my tenor /contralto ladies should pick up the skill. David Larson it’s a great resource. Super fun to let the note drop and watch the faces
I've been singing in church as a soprano all my life and always wondered why I couldn't hit the sorta "high" notes that seemed easy enough for everyone else, but after doing this test I realize I have a range more consistent with a high mezzo... our choir only had soprano & alto sections, so it all makes sense now! They had to put me somewhere lol
I got stuck on all the soprano 2 parts through most of last year except for the brief period I sang alto at my teachers request. Singing alto damaged my voice because I couldn’t sing the lower notes and I was moved back to soprano 2. My friend commented on it and asked if I thought that I might be a mezzo. He was very right and now it makes sense why I’m stuck in between the parts.
You're not alone. My church practice hosted a joint choir practice tonight with 4 other congregations (80 people give or take) and I was one of just 2 Baritone singers.
I was having fun being part of choirs in school and I hated getting the "high" parts, I can barely do mezzo on a good day, given that I am most comfortable in the range of alto/tenor. So I was singing low compared to the majority of the other girls. I felt like I was stuck some odd place halfway between the girls and the boys and neither really worked for me. 😆 I still had fun, though.
@@islandeatssand684 oh yeah me too I can hit super low notes like D2, and I can reach E5 with falsetto, notes above E5 are like screaming but I can hit them, the highest note I’ve ever reached is like a G6, but I find it easy to reach notes below Eb6
It's the same or even worse with guys. Most High School choirs don't even have a single legit bass, at least by the standard of singing a full C2 or lower. Similar but to a lesser extent with tenors. My hs is weird though because there were actually two of us basses, but no tenors and about 20 baritones. We also had one girl who could sing tenor, and she sang that often in our acapella group. Edit; I mean we have people in every voice part, but few of the "basses" and "tenors" could actually sing bass or tenor.
I was mezzo in high school, but I remember feeling very tired after singing higher in my range when in a choral thing one weekend. I'm wondering if I'm alto.
After years of singing soprano I noticed my chest voice feeling more resonate and rich going to lower notes, so I came back to check my range after years. And I hit a D#3 as my lowest comfortable note! My lowest has always been a F3 since I was 12! I don't know what I did, but my voice deepened a little within the past year. I'm 26 lol I didn't think my voice would change suddenly in my mid 20s. Hello Alto lol
This was so accurate it creeped me out. I wrote down the notes, D3-A5. The chart came up and o was an EXACT alto. Then you said altos transition to head voice around G4. I tested and it was exactly right! Never had a video explain it so well!
@@NeptuneCookies Just try to imitate the note...you can watch compilations of high notes and memorised them, see the note on screen and listen if it sounds the same. I recommend you the channel FeDsax98. IDK but I hope it helps you
Thanks Ian! I’m 16 and I’ve been training myself for 3 years. You’re the only coach who’s actually changed my voice for the better. I’ve only used your videos for a month but that’s all it took!
I hope your puberty experience was better than mine. I just want to get it over with but it's so slow for me. Voice has been cracking for so long and slowly dropping from that squeaky voice I had.
I usually use falsetto instead of my head voice. I wanna stop doing that but it just became so habitual that I actually forgot how to sing in my head voice🙂
@Axzhel Alversado update! i recovered and am suddenly better at using head voice? i don't really understand much about the technicalities tbh but i got my head voice back and i don't really know how hah. it's a lot lighter and my voice has gotten brighter, more flowy and smooth, less rigid. it offers a lot more versatility and i can do much more than before :3
I was never quite sure whether I was a true bass until I tried almost every voice range test on RUclips and realizing that they all stop at E2. I tried this one and I didn't lose any quality or become breathy all the way down to C2 and I could've kept going. Also my primo passagio happened at like C#3/D3 and I consistently topped out before reaching C4 so I can't accurately find my secondo passagio. This is the best test I've found and I'm still too low to accurately measure myself with it.
F1 - D5. This confirms what a vocal coach told me a few years ago - she was also a trained opera singer. She called me a Bass-Baritone, which I'd have to agree with. 95% of pop songs, I have to use head voice just to get up that high. But I can sing Johnny Cash like no one else!
I'm thinking about getting a vocal coach. Should I get an opera teacher, or should I get a musical theatre one? or is there no real difference as a beginner?
@@EternalSilence4ever in my opinion either way should be fine. The basics of proper singing technique are all the same: warm ups, throat relaxation, proper breathing, good posture, etc. As long as that person has been trained properly themselves - the biggest issue is learning to do it right so you don't damage your vocal chords by straining them.
@@infelicitas I like Johnny simply because he's one of the few guys I can comfortably sing. I can sing to around F#1 in chest/fry mix, but I have to destroy my voice to sing a high G. It's easier in falsetto ofc but I want to sound like Robert Plant yk
As a formal choral singer and now mostly a worship singer at church I found this lesson very interesting. I've always been an strong alto/tenor and can both registers relatively comfortable. However when I went down toward the baritone and up to the messo notes it was a struggle. This brief lesson showed me areas that I can work on without vocal fatigue or injuries 🙂
As a voice teacher starting with a classical background, this is a really nice overview of finding voice types! I appreciate that you mention that lower female voice types have a higher primo passaggio which is definitely correct; I remember being told by my teachers in the past that mezzi had lower passagios than sopranos, my G4 break always confused them, lol.
I'm in about the same range you are. I can consistently sing from E2 to F#4, right where my passaggio is. I can strongly sing the Bb5 in "The Music of the Night" and sustain it, but I choke on the C5.😝and sometimes can hoot to D5. Thanks for the clear discussion on determining the different ranges. Very good.
Perfect .. thanks for this brilliant lesson ..I am a BARITONE and all my life I was searching for my vocal range .. finally I find it in this video .. exactly as you mentioned my Primo is Bb3-B3 and Secondo is Eb4-E4 .. thanks Ian .. You have my utmost respect and admiration.
I was classified as a baritone in high school, but I would struggle to get the lowest notes of the range out above a faint whisper. The problem was that the choir director was only concerned with how high you could go and I wasn’t trained to use my head voice. Later in college I was re-classified as a tenor, as I was given the test and discovered that my larynx would raise on a C#4. After some remedial training I was able to belt a C5 with relative ease and even hit that extremely difficult D5.
This video was so comprehensive & helpful! My results were: Lowest note - B2 Highest note - G5 Primo passagio - G4 Secondo passagio - D#5 The test confirmed that I am an Alto! 🎶
I kind of already assumed I was an alto (maybe even a tenor). I do have a lower voice for a female. Lowest Note - D3 Highest note - F#5 Primo passagio - F4 Secondo passagio - around c5- d5 (it was hard to tell) ' But yeah, I'm an Alto
@@Kurdyukov87pianist That's cool! I mostly just pick random songs that I like from Broadway. I even try to hit the high notes 😭 (I sound like a dying bird)
I quit chorus a long, long time ago, but as an experienced lecturer working with large auditories, i found, i need to train my vocal abilities, to breathe properly, to make my voice sound nicely. Have no idea if there are trainings for the teachers or lecturers, but the way you explain things is very clear and involving!
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I’ve been doing musical theatre since primary school and out of all the warm ups, rehearsals, performances, lessons etc not once was I ever taught or explained to what true vocal ranges are and most importantly actually how to find your own. This is just fantastic and extremely helpful, I only wish I knew this decades ago!! Thank you so much for making this video. I will definitely be passing this on to others.
My range: D3-D5. I definitely can’t get anywhere near A5. My passagio points don’t match those you have for alto, they’re more like those you have for tenors.
Me too. That's because not everybody's voice fits in a fach. I have the range of a contralto profondo, yet I have the voice structure and sound of a tenor/soprano. Needless to say, my best voice teachers trained me on tenor songs or soprano songs transposed to fit my range 🤔
Pretty much same. I always sing the lower notes when altos split, but when I'm not in choir, I sing tenor, or some weird mash up of tenor and alto that just happens to come out of my mouth. I always say I have the same range as a viola in first position.
@@kam9908 a LOT of people can't tell the difference between one note and the next note before or after it. I can't physically transfer a piano note to what I think it sounds like in voice. Piano notes aren't human voice, and I can't translate it down to the note. Unless you have a musical gift, you aren't gonna do it either. I would need somebody that can actually determine that to hear me physically, because there's next to no difference to me on half of the 2nd Octave, and I can't tell whether I can get down to C2, E2, A2, or whatever else. It's all blended because a piano note and human note are two different things.
Hi Ian. I do quite a bit of karoake & sometimes struggle with figuring out how much I need the KJ to lower the key on songs, particularly female singers. I always considered I was Alto, but turns out I'm a Tenor through and through. So it now makes sense why I might struggle getting that starting key just right. Thanks so much for this easy to follow video! I've subscribed to your channel to learn more, improve my singing skills while ensuring I don't damage those voc chords!
I'm female and my range is almost exact match with tenor's range from the table... Is it even ok? XD I don't know anything about singing but I want to start vocal exercising
This is the first time I find such a good explanation. It's difficult if you have been trying out for years all kinds of things with your high baritone voice and so the passagio's can be camouflaged with so little effort that it's hard to spot them now. But there in that high baritone zone, some voices probably could be so light and trained well, that singing tenor is not unhealthy?? On the other hand, in choirs that the tenors often all sing in a thin head voice, very different from the noble Italian tenor sound. Basses in choirs often lower the larynx, try to sing thick and so some of them might be low tenors without knowing because once used to this, they might never discover their high potential. I am almost convinced though that no high baritone could sing Nessun Dorma really easily and while the aria "Herr, lehre doch mich" is easy for any baritone, the weight will always lack when a high baritone sings it. I curse this voice type which allows you to do almost anything but nothing really perfect ;-)
I was alto in choir, but when my teacher needed soprano or tenor, she'd call me to do it!💖🎶 I have range from soprano to baritone, all STRONG in them! I'm SO GRATEFUL for that!!💖💖💖💖
As someone who was born a female, I am surprised to say I'm somewhere between Baritone and Tenor My lowest note was A2 with my highest being B4 My Primo was around F#3 and my Secondo was around F4
Im a female teen with a bad voice and a very small range. My range falls right into alto, however my primo passagio indicates I'm a tenor and my secondo passagio indicates I'm a baritone or lower!! I'm much more comfortable singing in lower tones anyways
You are doing it wrong I will say this again u are doing it wrong the male and female voice are built differently it extremely extremely rare since there is only one person on the planet who can sing in a male and female range u are probably testing urself wrong there is no way a girl sound deep as a man do u speak normally with guy voice ? Or is it female if it female voice normally than ur not a baritone ur either alto or higher just not biologically possible for a girl to be at that range and that deep
@saysamnang9851 that's not how it works... your voice depth is determined by genetics and how much of a balance of testosterone/estrogen your body has- which is something men and women have..🤦♂️ women can have deep voices from genetics or producing a higher amount of testosterone than average..
🤞I hope I did this right. When I was 15 my voice teacher said I was a 2nd Soprano, but I always thought I might be a 1st Alto. That was decades ago; Today I did your range tests about 12 times (to be sure of the results), and every single time the result was that I'm a TENOR🤯 A female tenor😯 My voice doesn't sound deep at all to me, but once I accepted the results I did your vocal exercises for Tenors (in the link below). I felt very comfortable in that range, and I was able to comfortably sing every note in the Tenor exercises without straining, forcing, or using falsetto. I guess I just imagined that, as a woman, my singing voice would sound a whole lot deeper than it actually does if I were a Tenor, but it doesn't seem all that deep to me... I still sound very much like a girl with just a medium timbre of voice. Thank you so much for helping me discover my true vocal range🌹❤ Vocal Range: A#2-C#5 Primo: F4 Secundo: B3
i have about 20 years of choral experience and have sung everything between tenor II to soprano I. But now that I'm in my 30s, my voice has settled a bit and I no longer feel comfortable in the rafters. I reached out to a voice teacher friend to give me an official vocal test and just tell me what I SHOULD be singing, because I'm currently singing with 3 groups and singing 3 different voice parts. I'm fully planning to give her the results I got here and see if that helps when I meet with her lol (range A2-G5, primo passaggio around D4, secondo passaggio D5). super helpful!
@@CarolDean-p1v It's a video titled "What voice type am I?" I imagine that most singers would know their voice type, so you know target demographic would probably be just people that want to learn more about vocals (which would include me, wow). So what was your point?
How am I supposed to sing the note of a piano😭 bruh I don’t understand anything I sound the same on almost all of the piano notes (edit: Im not tone deaf, thanks. And I’m pretty sure you figured it out now)
I've been transitioning, and my voice has just started to change so I've decided to take this test once a week to see how my voice changes. My voice so far has changed quite a bit. My vocal range at the start of this used to be from F1 to around G4, though I do know that that varies based on the day. Today when I tried this again my range was from E2 to D5. I have long since been a subscriber on all of my accounts, and I love your content.You are the person who originally inspired me to sing. I never though I would actually start making enough money on commissions to upgrade my equipment, and now here I am two years later, still installed with courage, and following my next goal. Thank you so much, I don't know if I could be here without you. Thank you Ian castle.
I'm 15 and my voice is still changing. It cracked for the first time last year. I am in the high school choir. I can do alto notes and tenor notes. I was in alto last year and tenor this year.
How does one overcome shyness?? When I was much younger, I was- and the entire choir, of which I was a member, told us that we were not supposed to hear our own voice (probably more loudly than the person next to you)- but since I am, and have always been shy and not liked my voice to be heard- in general- has caused a lot of trouble ever since. I absolutely hate what my voice sounds like on a recording. I am just looking for ways to overcome my fear in this regard, and I have enjoyed singing for most of my life. I really want to overcome my fear and shyness. Thank you for this informative video.
I struggle with this too and I know it’s hard. But what I would say is try to let go a bit, know that it’s okay to take up space and to be heard. If your shyness comes from fear of what other people think, remember that we only really tend to pay attention to our own mistakes. Nobody cares if you don’t sound perfect every time or if you make a mistake! Remember that life is too short to care about what others think. I don’t really know your situation but maybe start at home where no one can hear you, be loud and take up space, find confidence in your voice. And then slowly start bringing that confidence elsewhere too. If singing is what you love then don’t give up. I believe in you!!
the way i overcame it was to just scream lyrics when im alone, if your crazier alone its easier to sing not shy in front of others. and if people say your singing sucks its because they only hear the best takes of people who do it for a career
@@yah660 I did it though out school. I also had the honor of going on the Broadway stage on November 13, 2019 to rap my own song and I wasn’t nervous one bit. So it payed off going to the talent show of my school.
Wow, I classified spot on as a tenor! Low note: G2 High note: D5 Primo: E4 Secondo: A4 Honestly I expected that, but I didn’t think it would be so evident 😅 Very good job mate, thank you! 💪🏻💪🏻
I was classified as a soprano in high school but I am much more comfortable in alto. Because I strained so much to sing those soprano notes, now my voice is shot. So sad. :(
Yeah, that sucks. At my middle school, we switch which voice parts we sing throughout the year to extend our range. While I get where they’re coming from, it’s real annoying to be a contralto singing soprano
Is there anyway to fix a shot throat? I've never sang before, I'm new to it but I'm almost positive I fudged my voice. Once when I was young me and my aunt (we're the exact same age) were doing a scream competition. We literally screamed to the very top, every atom in our lungs. And each time that happened we'd do it even higher when we thought we couldn't (lmao imagine what the neighbors were thinking XD). Don't know what to do, think or start with
This video was amazing! Keep up the good work! My range is D3-F5 (Alto & Mezzo) Primo is C4 (Tenor) Secondo is B4-F5 (Tenor, Alto & Mezzo) I normally sing as an alto on the choir but I sang as a Tenor a few months ago and recently continued singing Tenor since there aren't many tenors now 😁 I enjoy singing even the soprano notes sometimes, I'm working on my range so that I can achieve some higher and lower notes 😊
Thank you for this, I have always been classified as a tenor. Occasionally diving into alto ranges to "beef up" man-power when there are shortages in that range. Once or twice, I've done a bit of Baritone. Your test confirmed Tenor Vocal Range for me.
I am a female baritone! 🎉 When i was in chior they put me in alto bc im a girl. So by default I forced myself to talk higher. I am NEVER forcing a higher voice bc i am a woman again. range is a2-c#5 and my primo voice was the exact classification for baritone.
I was classified as a Mezzo but was placed in Alto by the Choir Director because we had a surplus of Sopranos. I think it served me well because I was able to hone my lower range during my first few years as a Chorister. Now, I am flexible hahaha!
This was probably the most helpful video I've ever seen! I was a choirgirl for so many years and just naturally shifted from Soprano to Alto at around 14. I started HRT a litttle over 4 years ago but never somehow considered how it would affect my singing voice... Turns out I'm a bass now!
Its pretty funny that I am a boy...But I am a soprano! So when you said "Its the ladies' turn!" I couldnt help it but chuckle! I love this video though, very helpful :)
I have a pretty wide actual range, but never tried this "test" in all the years I sang in school. I was pretty spot on calling myself a "low tenor/bari-tenor," usually singing tenor 2 in choir. The lower part of baritone was more reliable than the upper part of tenor, but my primo/secondo is comfortably at the bottom of the tenor range. Thanks for the video - it was fun!
Thank you so much for this exercise. My range at this point is C2 to C4. It is stretched at C4 and takes a lot of focus to get a decent result. It is easier for me to gently try notes lower than C2 and sometimes I can get an almost comfortable E1.
That's a hell of a low voice, that must be "basso profundo", if I have the sub-category right. I think I'm pretty much a standard bass, perhaps slightly on the bass-baritone side. Not totally sure. I can "get an almost comfortable" B1 in the way you do with E1. That's a huge gap. I can sing a C2 and if in a choir would tell them my absolute lowest reliable note is C2. At top I can get an E-flat 5, but my voice totally refuses to reach E5. But it starts "stretching" at F4 in the way yours does at C4. My comfortable range seems to be F2 - F4, which is why I said I might be on the bass-baritone side rather than standard bass, a semi-tone higher than standard bass (E2 - E4). Probably closer to standard bass than baritone though. I'm not a singer and never sing, so this is my range without practice. I hear that top range improves a lot with practice. Does low range improve much too, or is that more fixed?
@@alantaylor6691 Same question, I'm an amateur male singer who started taking lessons for over a year. My lower range hasn't gained much, and so is its power. My lowest comfy note is G2 (sometimes in the morning I can go to F#2 or even F2, I've tried subharmonics on my own but they're unstable, at most I can reach A1). By lowest comfy note it isn't loud at all, I start to lose resonance at B-flat2/B2/C3, depending on how relaxed my voice is. When my voice is tired I even struggle with A-flat2. I would say both the low and end end of your range is defined by your physiology, i.e. how your larynx is built, but usually the higher end extends more. I regard my highest note (head voice, falsetto, whatever terms you would use) as F5. If I increase my volume and remain a neutral larynx, then I've tried an A-flat5. I've done higher but the technique is questionable. I definitely think I could go higher than F5. You know how the sopranos can extend their range beyond the soprano high C (C6)? Recently I'm looking for that technique called flageolet, though it's very difficult to execute because it gets so athletic haha. Ok back to your question. I don't really train my lowest range. My chest voice has strengthened a lot after the lessons (I'm used to speak in a softer and higher tone, even now), when fully warmed up my chest voice range (not mixed voice) is G2 to B-flat4 (prolly can go higher in the future, but I ain't trying on my own haha). My teacher says that my lower range has a beautiful baritone timbre, with a little bit of tenor notes. So the higher end has definitely improved, but my lower end hasn't really added notes. Maybe if I train my voice in the way basses do, I may acquire a few semitones?
This seems very thorough, yet I'm really not understanding how to use it properly. It doesn't help that I'm not grokking the two breakpoints. For example, during the primo passagio test, I can feel my voice box progressively rising a little with every note. So how high is it supposed to be before I call it the breakpoint?
Yeah, in both primo and secundo I started the transition in soprano and end in alto. The most interesting part is, my vocal range covers soprano, mezzo and alto. So, yes, I got nothing from the video.
I love music and I love to sing in the comfort of my car, but this video is truly showing me how musically illiterate I am. This is hard, and I'm not sure I even know if I'matching the notes right to find my range. The gent in the video is easy to follow, It's just me failing to grasp this pretty much entirely.
Now, I KNOW for sure that my voice is definitely one of a kind... I am obviously not a tenor, bass, nor baritone, cause I'm not a guy, but I'm also not an alto, mezzo, nor soprano. These are my vocal ranges: Lowest: G#3 Highest: Bb4 Primo Passaggio: B4 Secondo Passaggio: F#4. I am none of the vocal ranges you've mentioned. I am a Contralto. As a vocal coach, I hope you have heard of this unique, rare vocal range.
G#4-E5 - this is quite interesting to me, because I’m not in choir anymore and I haven’t been for a few years now. So most of my singing comes from belting in the car, which has definitely trained my lower register! I used to be a very confident sop1, but now I’m much more interested in having a varied vocal range.
I have never had voice training but have done daily lessons with a lot of different Videos for almost 10 years now. Yours have earned a playlist on their own and still, I feel uncomfortable when singing. This video has confused me even more as my passagios are all over the place. Nevertheless, as always, thank you for your time and efforts. Big ups Thau
This is so interesting and fun to do, I am a bit of a low baritone but since I have a chest voice from about D2-B4 doing the middle range stuff in chest was fun to go through. I actually managed to get out C#2 and C2 as well but it wasnt quality or resonant. my full vocal range including extended techniques is about D1-E5 but my head voice and falsetto are a bit weak and I want to strengthen them more
Wow, very helpful thank you. When I first started vocal training 5 years ago I was classified a bass-baritone. Now my passaggio placements put me into the tenor range
What's strange is my strange goes from a half step below the alto range to the very top of the soprano range. For the longest time, I thought I was a mezzo soprano, but I'm actually an alto. Awesome!
Great video! Though quite confident that I’m an alto, I’m still confused because I seem to reach some notes for tenors (?!?). My lowest is A#2, highest at F#5, primo passagio at C#4, and secondo at G4. But really, learned a lot from this video. Will subscribe from now on :)
You can be a female tenor, or contralto. Alto, technically not the choral part which is usually more mezzo, refers to contralto, the lowest female range.
@@TheBaumcm You have to remember that SATB parts can’t go to as extreme pitches as solo parts because they generally have to be singable for a choir that includes mezzos and baritones. So the alto parts won’t go below what’s comfortable for the lower mezzos, and similar for the other parts.
I was a bit lost with the range part, but I wrote down primo and segundo anyway thinking i probably messed that up a bit. When you showed the chart I fit exactly into alto! G4 and D5 exactly, which makes so much sense cuz the note I can generally hit the easiest and hold it is an A5.
It's a bit hard to tell sometimes if I'm harmonizing or I'm singing the right note. Besides that I found out I get stuck earlier when going down chromatically than when singing the low notes alone. Like, on your test, I start singing note by note down from C4, and I get stuck at E3. However, when trying to sing an A2 by itself I can without a problem, so it's leading be to questionable results. It's probably because I'm not a trained singer whatsoever and I'm running out of air or failing to transition, I don't know.
There’s technique to learn to be able to transition from chest to head voice or vice versa, so I imagine it’s the same for going from chest to wherever bass voice comes from. For the longest time, I could hit any notes within my range with ease, but if I tried chromatically going up or down, my voice would break in the middle and I didn’t understand because the notes I’d break on, I could still sing if I sang them alone. So I think it’s just a matter of practicing transitioning
Im a female and my lowest note is E3 and my highest note is D#5 so i guess that puts me in alto. But whenever i sing i feel more comfortable singing songs that are in the mezzo range idk why
as a male who hasn't practiced in a while, i'm a bass but i've been singing like a tenor because it's been easier for some reason lol. I'm trying to see how to sing like a bass again
My voice is just starting to settle after transitioning (profile pic is old lol) and I had no idea what my range even is anymore. This has been suuuuuper helpful my dude, thanks a lot. (Went from Alto to Baritone for anyone interested lol)
I sang along down an octave. My range is B0 to G3 or A3. I love the contra octave! A well-timed D#1 changes the whole conversation. I try to keep my speaking voice 60 Hz and upward. Save the 40-60 range for conspiratorial asides.
Saw your channel, you're not kidding. You're like Tim Storms, in fact you might do B0 easier. That whole bit about him singing 7 octaves below 0 and a 10-octave range has to be bullshit doesn't it?
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I need a little help understanding one thing... during the primo passagio test I was comfortable in chest voice throughout the scale ... my secondo passagio is an F5 and my range was an F3 to just above a C6 (test was performed without vocal warmup ) help?
I hit A2 - C5 , my primo passagio is in Mi4 and my escond is in La4, what voice type am i? Im tenor but what voice subtype, im Daniel Real singer, i have many songs
First all of u need to be able to sing properly from diaphram.
If u not using ur diaphram properly ur larynx will rise faster than it shud.
That why we can read comments like B3 primo and G4 secondo passagio ...
Btw: My lowest note G2 with fry F2
Primo - C4# Secondo - F4#
Highest note - G5
And even im 33 i have very bright tone with little dark timbre so im guessing im Dramatic Tenor.
@@DanielRealcantante I've listen to ur songs and for me u are Lyric Tenor.
@@ulquiorra635 Thank you very much , i have been classified like lyric or light lyric
I’m a female but I feel like I was more comfortable before the female notes came in
Sounds like your either an alto or a mezzo soprano with an excellent extension into the lower register.
Idk what i am.. Im a girl but my primo was C4 but my Secondo was a E4
Any ideas
@@grace-dm1jl Hey!!!! It sounds like you're an alto! You may eventually mature into a mezzo soprano as you get older. Only time will tell. Tell Naruto I said hi! :)
Male vs. female notes is weirdly restrictive and inaccurate - there are alto men, tenor women, etc, and as a nonbinary person I think we should stop gendering notes in the first place. Sing where you're comfortable and expand your range from there.
@@theWeaverofTales I agree. I've been labeled an alto but I can very easily go down into the tenor range and I really struggle with high notes even though I'm female. I think it's annoying how everything has to be labeled with a gender.
I came into this thinking I was a soprano, and having sung soprano for years. Turns out, after all this time, I’m actually a soprano. I am shook.
Never know. Sang soprano for years. Hit 40, list all my highs and dropped an octave. Skipped mezzo completely and went straight to Contralto/tenor
Same for me being an alto with a semi high range. Crazy
I don't get it.
Sopranos family ?
@@bluscorpion its a joke.
"sing an AH vowel"
me: softly hums to self because I do not want to sound stupid in front of my family members
same but even when I'm alone lol
omg sameee
😂😂😂😂
Thought i was the only one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*I AM DOING THIS RIGHT NOW*
After watching this video, I can concluded I have a voice.
i cant tell if im harmonizing or singing the actual note
SO many times I realized I was singing up an octave by mistake, trying to come in low to high.
@@bee2731 You'd be surprised how often accidentally harmonizing is among non- professional singers. Especially when they have trouble singing out. Learn some actual singers terminology before you decide to make rude comments on others singing abilities okay?
@@lora1002 "singers terminology" my ass, being tone deaf is being tone deaf
@@bee2731 spoke like someone who doesn’t know anything about singing. You and your ass should really be more informed. It’s kinda embarrassing.
@@lora1002 alright buddy
The noises I made trying to do this 😭
Lol
LMAOO ME
You're cutee
@@learnerdecuriousqueen3320 who me??
@@learnerdecuriousqueen3320 simp
"Congratulations, your voice range is Alto!"
me, who loves alto and has always sung alto and nothing else: What a surprise
HEhehe :P
what are some few examples of alto pop songs?
I felt this
@@CyclesAreSingularities like which ones ?
I consider myself a baritone but I was in boys choir when I was young so I’m kinda like a baritenor lol, but like u said I can’t do this range for long, I had a teacher in college take me up to an aflat above the staff but that was only once lol
Thank you. I had always considered myself an alto, primarily because I sang in the alto section in choral groups. But I could slip into a soprano part if the piece does not go above E5. This session indicates I am more a mezzo, and that feels right to me.
Alto for choir is actually more of a mezzo. Contralto is the alto here
So, if contralto is the alto here and that is still too high for me, I‘m a tenor? This vid so far seems to implicate that is only for males =| wtf
Most females singing 'alto' are actually mezzos - the comments about contraltos being rare are genuinely true. Not white rhino rare, but still unusual. I honestly think there are also a lot of mezzos singing the sop lines (usually the ones who have to stick to the tune and can't hold a part!)
@@lilyfel2118 I know at least one male soprano and several male altos, and I've sung tenor in choir - so it's possible. However, if you're not trained then you might just not be used to using your head voice. Your passaggio points are probably a better indicator than your extreme range, especially at the top end.
Ian: Okay, sing the same note as the piano.
Me, a complete beginner: But I'm not a piano... ?
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So, you're telling me you can't identify what note to sing when it's played on the piano?
@@pavese1379 yes, I cant
@@sibelhernandez5981 ight, you're tone deaf then
@@pavese1379 Or I'm someone who knows nothing about music...
F2-E5, primo passagio at C4, secondo passagio at F#4
god looked at me and said "lady tenor"
Im a lady Baritone or lady or enor (I can do both)
Same! D2-C6, primo at D#4, secondo at D#5
seems like I am joining the lady tenor club: Range: C3 - C6, Primo at D4, Secondo at A4 - I've been singing everythin from low Alto to high Soprano in Choir... I feel betrayed.
Another female tenor at A2-F5 lol
C#2 - E5, primo G4, segondo E4
As an Italian, I liked how you pronounced primo e secondo passaggio 🤗 and tessitura! In a Southern Italy accent
Mamy Mimma hehe my days as an opera singer have paid off 😆
Does singing in mixed and head voice count in determining vocal category?
@@riksinha5 yes
The CORRECT accent 🇮🇹
Lol I hadn’t heard the term tessatura since I was in high school and we put on the play Gypsy . It was the name of one of the strippers
I must say, you've explained this better than my treble chorus teacher! I've always wondered why even some lower alto note were a little to high for me, turns I'm more comfortable in a baritone/tenor range(both feel pretty comfortable to me)
Sadly, I'm not able to transfer to the Bass Chorus my school has do to personal reason. I can explain if someone wants but won't if someone doesn't ask.
@@SockMan-vt1gcwell now I'm curious
@@SockMan-vt1gcso I guess I'm someone who is asking lol
@@-Teague- Ahh sorry was at school. So, the bass chorus at my school is guys only and my school doesn't really agree with the fact that I'm trans(ftm) so even if I signed up for bass chorus, they would put me in treble chorus. I don't take choir anymore because of it.
@@SockMan-vt1gc I'm sorry to hear that :( trans stuff aside it's silly to separate the choirs by gender instead of by actual vocal pitch imo
Don’t forget contraltos! I feel like this is often described as a “rare” female voice type but it seems to be more common than one thinks. The contralto register divides are confusing because the chest register is larger than the other female voice types, so it’s hard to place yourself using your chart. But other than that, the exercises in this video are great and very helpful!
Wow I came here to comment exactly the same thing, I'm a female and the whole video was very confusing for me until I saw the final chart, where I would be a Tenor with a higher range at the top. I guess this is what they call Contralto. I've always known that I had a deep voice but I don't feel like it is rare, I've met other female singers with low voices like mine, and generally most female singers can sing the same songs as me (I always choose the ones in low register because my voice is stronger there)
For sure! I'm female, and now have a range of B2 to F/G5. I can comfortably sing A4 in chest voice, although my normal speaking voice is A3. I sing tenor in my chorale.
That’s the song daddy sang bass momma sang tenor. I think it’s about the voice we develop, since higher notes are more valued , but also contralto or tenor females are the male bass equivalent and they usually don’t fully develop their lows until after 40. Soprano(high C) in high school by placement but more mezzo by where my voice say and once I hit 40, tenor on a good day and lower with subharmonic. Any of my tenor /contralto ladies should pick up the skill. David Larson it’s a great resource. Super fun to let the note drop and watch the faces
He said that they are more specific, and that he was just doing the types in his book.
Am I a contralto when my speaking voice is around D3?
I've been singing in church as a soprano all my life and always wondered why I couldn't hit the sorta "high" notes that seemed easy enough for everyone else, but after doing this test I realize I have a range more consistent with a high mezzo... our choir only had soprano & alto sections, so it all makes sense now! They had to put me somewhere lol
i can go higher than a c6 (terrible but managable) so i have no idea what my voice range is :( my lowst is e3 based on this test though.
I got stuck on all the soprano 2 parts through most of last year except for the brief period I sang alto at my teachers request. Singing alto damaged my voice because I couldn’t sing the lower notes and I was moved back to soprano 2. My friend commented on it and asked if I thought that I might be a mezzo. He was very right and now it makes sense why I’m stuck in between the parts.
You're not alone. My church practice hosted a joint choir practice tonight with 4 other congregations (80 people give or take) and I was one of just 2 Baritone singers.
Just a note that alto in choir is actually more mezzo. The alto here is contralto and equivalent to a make contra tenor
I was having fun being part of choirs in school and I hated getting the "high" parts, I can barely do mezzo on a good day, given that I am most comfortable in the range of alto/tenor. So I was singing low compared to the majority of the other girls.
I felt like I was stuck some odd place halfway between the girls and the boys and neither really worked for me. 😆
I still had fun, though.
"You may be able to hit notes in other categories as well"
...
i cannot even hit the ones inside my category ;-;
same
I can legit hit notes from E2-F6 and I'm a guy this don't make no sense
@@islandeatssand684 oh yeah me too I can hit super low notes like D2, and I can reach E5 with falsetto, notes above E5 are like screaming but I can hit them, the highest note I’ve ever reached is like a G6, but I find it easy to reach notes below Eb6
@@islandeatssand684 Bro how the fuck I my range is only B1/Bb1-G#3. G#3 is before my voice just gets fucked.
You are such a lovely coach. You teach with grace and understanding. My autistic butt is not only following along, but loving it. Bless. 10/10
As a female they tried to put me into saprano because im a girl but I now sing the lead of mens choir as a baritone lmao
impressive whats your lowest note?
JESUS CHRIST!
@@L.O.752that’s some serious range 🤣🤣
@@jmh20052 IKR??
oh hell nahhh what the fuckkk😭😭
Low Test - 2:39
High Test - 3:48
Male Primo - 7:09
Female Primo - 7:37
Secundo - 8:47
Thank you
you are a godsend thank you
D#3
I just pressed translate and the Male Primo said "Evil First" XD
c2
I was put in soprano my whole choir life...turns out I might be an alto after all.
same
It's the same or even worse with guys. Most High School choirs don't even have a single legit bass, at least by the standard of singing a full C2 or lower. Similar but to a lesser extent with tenors. My hs is weird though because there were actually two of us basses, but no tenors and about 20 baritones. We also had one girl who could sing tenor, and she sang that often in our acapella group.
Edit; I mean we have people in every voice part, but few of the "basses" and "tenors" could actually sing bass or tenor.
Same lol. I was always put in sopranos but when I checked I'm the exact example of alto (D3-A5)✌🏼
I was classified as an alto- mezzo but I guess now I’m a soprano 😭😭
I was mezzo in high school, but I remember feeling very tired after singing higher in my range when in a choral thing one weekend.
I'm wondering if I'm alto.
After years of singing soprano I noticed my chest voice feeling more resonate and rich going to lower notes, so I came back to check my range after years. And I hit a D#3 as my lowest comfortable note! My lowest has always been a F3 since I was 12! I don't know what I did, but my voice deepened a little within the past year. I'm 26 lol I didn't think my voice would change suddenly in my mid 20s. Hello Alto lol
I'm curious did your high range drop too?
This was so accurate it creeped me out. I wrote down the notes, D3-A5. The chart came up and o was an EXACT alto. Then you said altos transition to head voice around G4. I tested and it was exactly right! Never had a video explain it so well!
me too!
SAMEE
same, i am also an alto
THAT’S MY EXACT VOC RANGE ONG LOL
I am bro same what da hell im d3-A5
*sigh* Damn. I never knew I was vocally fached. 🙇🏻♂️
Hahahaha! That’s brilliant. Glad someone said it! Lol...”fached” haha
:D
😂😂😂😂
rofl
😂😂
why is my range literally 8 notes...
Same
I'm not sure if you're exaggerating, but you should watch what you consume before you sing and you should be well hydrated while you sing.
mine is like also that 😭
same. C2 to G3 is my furthest possible humming range
@@kam9908 come on sing it don’t hmm it
I’m a soprano , I just went into my whistle register 2 days ago. I’m so excited !!
I don't know if I am hitting any of these notes or not. Also, I don't know if I'm just getting out of breath or hitting the limit of my voice lmao.
I can relate...
If you pause and try a note again and still can't hit it, it's outside your (current) range
Me too! Is there any tips for this?
@@NeptuneCookies ear training, and lots of it
@@NeptuneCookies Just try to imitate the note...you can watch compilations of high notes and memorised them, see the note on screen and listen if it sounds the same. I recommend you the channel FeDsax98. IDK but I hope it helps you
Thanks Ian! I’m 16 and I’ve been training myself for 3 years. You’re the only coach who’s actually changed my voice for the better. I’ve only used your videos for a month but that’s all it took!
Did you Learn Vibrato here?
@@MrLight-jx7ie there are vids sir have made on the subject, browse through the channel thank you.
@@mohithart3824 Thank you ☺
I like Eric Arceneaux and Adam Mishan as vocal coaches as well 'cause they get to gritt!
I hope your puberty experience was better than mine. I just want to get it over with but it's so slow for me. Voice has been cracking for so long and slowly dropping from that squeaky voice I had.
I usually use falsetto instead of my head voice. I wanna stop doing that but it just became so habitual that I actually forgot how to sing in my head voice🙂
Yeah I have the same problem. I usually belt in chest voice for high notes and have forgotten how to use head voice 🥴
@Axzhel Alversado It does. Cheers for the comment.
@Axzhel Alversado Oof I actually got covid and can’t really sing so I’ve yet to test it out. I’m gonna take the other guy’s word for it haha, thanks!
Sameeee it's so bad ndwjocksbfk I've done the same for using chest voiceI can't belt to save my life lol I stayyyy using falsetto
@Axzhel Alversado update! i recovered and am suddenly better at using head voice? i don't really understand much about the technicalities tbh but i got my head voice back and i don't really know how hah. it's a lot lighter and my voice has gotten brighter, more flowy and smooth, less rigid. it offers a lot more versatility and i can do much more than before :3
I was never quite sure whether I was a true bass until I tried almost every voice range test on RUclips and realizing that they all stop at E2. I tried this one and I didn't lose any quality or become breathy all the way down to C2 and I could've kept going. Also my primo passagio happened at like C#3/D3 and I consistently topped out before reaching C4 so I can't accurately find my secondo passagio. This is the best test I've found and I'm still too low to accurately measure myself with it.
F1 - D5. This confirms what a vocal coach told me a few years ago - she was also a trained opera singer. She called me a Bass-Baritone, which I'd have to agree with. 95% of pop songs, I have to use head voice just to get up that high. But I can sing Johnny Cash like no one else!
I'm thinking about getting a vocal coach. Should I get an opera teacher, or should I get a musical theatre one? or is there no real difference as a beginner?
@@EternalSilence4ever in my opinion either way should be fine. The basics of proper singing technique are all the same: warm ups, throat relaxation, proper breathing, good posture, etc. As long as that person has been trained properly themselves - the biggest issue is learning to do it right so you don't damage your vocal chords by straining them.
I don't like Johnny Cash but its certainly fun to impress people with it. I am B1-G4 (G4 is a little rough though)
@@infelicitas I like Johnny simply because he's one of the few guys I can comfortably sing. I can sing to around F#1 in chest/fry mix, but I have to destroy my voice to sing a high G. It's easier in falsetto ofc but I want to sound like Robert Plant yk
@@specialknees6798 I love that haha. Good luck on your journey assuming you plan to expand your range
As a formal choral singer and now mostly a worship singer at church I found this lesson very interesting. I've always been an strong alto/tenor and can both registers relatively comfortable. However when I went down toward the baritone and up to the messo notes it was a struggle. This brief lesson showed me areas that I can work on without vocal fatigue or injuries 🙂
As a voice teacher starting with a classical background, this is a really nice overview of finding voice types! I appreciate that you mention that lower female voice types have a higher primo passaggio which is definitely correct; I remember being told by my teachers in the past that mezzi had lower passagios than sopranos, my G4 break always confused them, lol.
Can you teach me how
I'm in about the same range you are. I can consistently sing from E2 to F#4, right where my passaggio is. I can strongly sing the Bb5 in "The Music of the Night" and sustain it, but I choke on the C5.😝and sometimes can hoot to D5. Thanks for the clear discussion on determining the different ranges. Very good.
Perfect .. thanks for this brilliant lesson ..I am a BARITONE and all my life I was searching for my vocal range .. finally I find it in this video .. exactly as you mentioned my Primo is Bb3-B3 and Secondo is Eb4-E4 .. thanks Ian .. You have my utmost respect and admiration.
If you were in a choir, what would be the absolute lowest note you'd tell them you can sing?
my mixed voice mixes too well, I can't tell wehere my chestvoice stops or where my headvoice begins anymore hahah
Same too
HOW 😭
OH MY GOSH YEAH SAME. I've been singing in mixed like my whole life lolz. just sing louder and then you can tell
no me too 😭
I got D4 would that be a bass? For primo passaggio
I was classified as a baritone in high school, but I would struggle to get the lowest notes of the range out above a faint whisper. The problem was that the choir director was only concerned with how high you could go and I wasn’t trained to use my head voice. Later in college I was re-classified as a tenor, as I was given the test and discovered that my larynx would raise on a C#4. After some remedial training I was able to belt a C5 with relative ease and even hit that extremely difficult D5.
What training did you got?
This video was so comprehensive & helpful!
My results were:
Lowest note - B2
Highest note - G5
Primo passagio - G4
Secondo passagio - D#5
The test confirmed that I am an Alto! 🎶
You're contralto if you are woman.
I kind of already assumed I was an alto (maybe even a tenor). I do have a lower voice for a female.
Lowest Note - D3
Highest note - F#5
Primo passagio - F4
Secondo passagio - around c5- d5 (it was hard to tell)
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But yeah, I'm an Alto
@@hello-nr2jz If you female you're contralto.
@@hello-nr2jz You could try some Whitney Houston, Rihanna, Beyonce, Billie Eilish stuff.
@@Kurdyukov87pianist That's cool! I mostly just pick random songs that I like from Broadway. I even try to hit the high notes 😭 (I sound like a dying bird)
Thank you! Your warmups have improved my voice considerably!
Hyumifu that’s great to hear
Does anyone else feel that he's playing the notes too fast? I can't keep up and I can't pause that fast
Yeah it can seem a bit fast; try putting the video speed on 0.75× when he is playing the notes, maybe it'll help :)
GRAIN
@@DepthOfMusic i was thinking of doing that but dont the notes change when you change the speed?
@@sy8081 Depends. It's normally not enough to make a difference.
@@sy8081 Not on youtube.
In choir, I’ve always sung alto. My notes all hit solidly between alto and tenor. Thank you for creating a clear and straightforward vocal fach test.
❤is there a name for someone who sings Tenor and alto?
@@NikkiBrown4theLord contralto
@@Dualis58 Awesome, thank you! I've always called myself a Talto. Lol
I quit chorus a long, long time ago, but as an experienced lecturer working with large auditories, i found, i need to train my vocal abilities, to breathe properly, to make my voice sound nicely. Have no idea if there are trainings for the teachers or lecturers, but the way you explain things is very clear and involving!
This is so helpful! I’ve always been voiced as a Soprano, but according to your chart, I’m a textbook Mezzo! 😊 makes a lot of sense for me.
I have a voice crack, which completely messes up me knowing anywhere where my range may be ._.
Him: We'll sing a note everyone can reach. Middle C.
Me: *Cries in bass
*cries in super high soprano*
🤣😂
@June@97 its tone deaf but ok
cmon you have middle C as a bass
Middle c is my highest chest note so I can relate that it is very hard as a bass
8:58
When I was a young boy
My father took me into the city
To see a marching band
He said, "Son, when you grow up
Would you be the savior of the broken
The beaten and the damned?"
He said, "Will you defeat them?
Your demons, and all the non-believers
The plans that they have made?"
"Because one day, I'll leave you a phantom
To lead you in the summer
To join the black parade"
ahahahhahahahah
I read it and didn't recognize the lyrics but it was familiar then I hit the time mark and it was all clear lol
I’ve been doing musical theatre since primary school and out of all the warm ups, rehearsals, performances, lessons etc not once was I ever taught or explained to what true vocal ranges are and most importantly actually how to find your own. This is just fantastic and extremely helpful, I only wish I knew this decades ago!! Thank you so much for making this video. I will definitely be passing this on to others.
"Sing with no Boundaries".... love it.
I've always been misplaced in groups
G2 - C6 🦋
Highest-Bb4
Lowest: A2
Primo pasaagio (female) A4
Second:G4
My range: D3-D5. I definitely can’t get anywhere near A5. My passagio points don’t match those you have for alto, they’re more like those you have for tenors.
Me too. That's because not everybody's voice fits in a fach. I have the range of a contralto profondo, yet I have the voice structure and sound of a tenor/soprano. Needless to say, my best voice teachers trained me on tenor songs or soprano songs transposed to fit my range 🤔
Pretty much same. I always sing the lower notes when altos split, but when I'm not in choir, I sing tenor, or some weird mash up of tenor and alto that just happens to come out of my mouth. I always say I have the same range as a viola in first position.
Dude same! I’m like F#3-D5. I think I’m just a contralto with a crappy range lol
I could easily find my range, but the Primo and Secondo were so tricky, I am not sure I did it right.
I literally don't know HOW to sing with the piano 😭
Neither can I 😕
that means you are tone deaf
@@kam9908 Me and half the comment section? Okay.
@@jasminewilliams3351 only a very small minority of people are tone deaf
@@kam9908 a LOT of people can't tell the difference between one note and the next note before or after it. I can't physically transfer a piano note to what I think it sounds like in voice. Piano notes aren't human voice, and I can't translate it down to the note. Unless you have a musical gift, you aren't gonna do it either. I would need somebody that can actually determine that to hear me physically, because there's next to no difference to me on half of the 2nd Octave, and I can't tell whether I can get down to C2, E2, A2, or whatever else. It's all blended because a piano note and human note are two different things.
Hi Ian. I do quite a bit of karoake & sometimes struggle with figuring out how much I need the KJ to lower the key on songs, particularly female singers. I always considered I was Alto, but turns out I'm a Tenor through and through. So it now makes sense why I might struggle getting that starting key just right. Thanks so much for this easy to follow video! I've subscribed to your channel to learn more, improve my singing skills while ensuring I don't damage those voc chords!
I'm female and my range is almost exact match with tenor's range from the table... Is it even ok? XD I don't know anything about singing but I want to start vocal exercising
of course it’s okay! Some girls just have lower ranges
Like me! I'm pretty sure I'm a bass and I'm a girl
Oh wow really?!
Same
Me too
This is the first time I find such a good explanation. It's difficult if you have been trying out for years all kinds of things with your high baritone voice and so the passagio's can be camouflaged with so little effort that it's hard to spot them now. But there in that high baritone zone, some voices probably could be so light and trained well, that singing tenor is not unhealthy?? On the other hand, in choirs that the tenors often all sing in a thin head voice, very different from the noble Italian tenor sound. Basses in choirs often lower the larynx, try to sing thick and so some of them might be low tenors without knowing because once used to this, they might never discover their high potential. I am almost convinced though that no high baritone could sing Nessun Dorma really easily and while the aria "Herr, lehre doch mich" is easy for any baritone, the weight will always lack when a high baritone sings it. I curse this voice type which allows you to do almost anything but nothing really perfect ;-)
I was alto in choir, but when my teacher needed soprano or tenor, she'd call me to do it!💖🎶 I have range from soprano to baritone, all STRONG in them! I'm SO GRATEFUL for that!!💖💖💖💖
I may be tone deaf, but this is the best tutorial I have had so far. Thank you!
As someone who was born a female, I am surprised to say I'm somewhere between Baritone and Tenor
My lowest note was A2 with my highest being B4
My Primo was around F#3 and my Secondo was around F4
Damn, that's really cool
Im a female teen with a bad voice and a very small range. My range falls right into alto, however my primo passagio indicates I'm a tenor and my secondo passagio indicates I'm a baritone or lower!! I'm much more comfortable singing in lower tones anyways
You are doing it wrong I will say this again u are doing it wrong the male and female voice are built differently it extremely extremely rare since there is only one person on the planet who can sing in a male and female range u are probably testing urself wrong there is no way a girl sound deep as a man do u speak normally with guy voice ? Or is it female if it female voice normally than ur not a baritone ur either alto or higher just not biologically possible for a girl to be at that range and that deep
@saysamnang9851
that's not how it works... your voice depth is determined by genetics and how much of a balance of testosterone/estrogen your body has- which is something men and women have..🤦♂️ women can have deep voices from genetics or producing a higher amount of testosterone than average..
@@saysamnang9851embarrassing and uneducated comment to make
Piano: *stops at C6*
Me: "Wait! Come back! I'm not done yet!"
🤞I hope I did this right. When I was 15 my voice teacher said I was a 2nd Soprano, but I always thought I might be a 1st Alto. That was decades ago; Today I did your range tests about 12 times (to be sure of the results), and every single time the result was that I'm a TENOR🤯 A female tenor😯 My voice doesn't sound deep at all to me, but once I accepted the results I did your vocal exercises for Tenors (in the link below). I felt very comfortable in that range, and I was able to comfortably sing every note in the Tenor exercises without straining, forcing, or using falsetto. I guess I just imagined that, as a woman, my singing voice would sound a whole lot deeper than it actually does if I were a Tenor, but it doesn't seem all that deep to me... I still sound very much like a girl with just a medium timbre of voice. Thank you so much for helping me discover my true vocal range🌹❤
Vocal Range: A#2-C#5
Primo: F4
Secundo: B3
i have about 20 years of choral experience and have sung everything between tenor II to soprano I. But now that I'm in my 30s, my voice has settled a bit and I no longer feel comfortable in the rafters. I reached out to a voice teacher friend to give me an official vocal test and just tell me what I SHOULD be singing, because I'm currently singing with 3 groups and singing 3 different voice parts. I'm fully planning to give her the results I got here and see if that helps when I meet with her lol (range A2-G5, primo passaggio around D4, secondo passaggio D5). super helpful!
I understood literally none of this
Lol, just think that for higher and lower vocals have ranks, there 😂
You obviously are not a singer then?
@@CarolDean-p1vIf they were a singer, why the hell would they be here trying to LEARN? Donkey.
@@CarolDean-p1v It's a video titled "What voice type am I?" I imagine that most singers would know their voice type, so you know target demographic would probably be just people that want to learn more about vocals (which would include me, wow). So what was your point?
@@CarolDean-p1v You don’t have to be a singer, to understand
How am I supposed to sing the note of a piano😭 bruh I don’t understand anything I sound the same on almost all of the piano notes (edit: Im not tone deaf, thanks. And I’m pretty sure you figured it out now)
you should record yourself andsing along with notes and listen back. you're likely not tone deaf.. it just takes practise
Practice hitting notes in general first - your ear for it will improve as you go :)
Tone deaf much?
@@bee2731 Annoying much?
@@bee2731 lmao not you spending time replying this to every person in the comment section
Please do a vocal workout for pop singers.
I've been transitioning, and my voice has just started to change so I've decided to take this test once a week to see how my voice changes. My voice so far has changed quite a bit. My vocal range at the start of this used to be from F1 to around G4, though I do know that that varies based on the day. Today when I tried this again my range was from E2 to D5. I have long since been a subscriber on all of my accounts, and I love your content.You are the person who originally inspired me to sing. I never though I would actually start making enough money on commissions to upgrade my equipment, and now here I am two years later, still installed with courage, and following my next goal. Thank you so much, I don't know if I could be here without you. Thank you Ian castle.
I'm 15 and my voice is still changing. It cracked for the first time last year.
I am in the high school choir. I can do alto notes and tenor notes. I was in alto last year and tenor this year.
Thats so sweet :,) if u dont mind me asking, whats your vocal range now after 2 months?
you were able to go down to F1!? damn
When you say "transitioning" are you talking about the voice change of puberty, or a gender transition?
How does one overcome shyness?? When I was much younger, I was- and the entire choir, of which I was a member, told us that we were not supposed to hear our own voice (probably more loudly than the person next to you)- but since I am, and have always been shy and not liked my voice to be heard- in general- has caused a lot of trouble ever since. I absolutely hate what my voice sounds like on a recording. I am just looking for ways to overcome my fear in this regard, and I have enjoyed singing for most of my life. I really want to overcome my fear and shyness. Thank you for this informative video.
I struggle with this too and I know it’s hard. But what I would say is try to let go a bit, know that it’s okay to take up space and to be heard.
If your shyness comes from fear of what other people think, remember that we only really tend to pay attention to our own mistakes. Nobody cares if you don’t sound perfect every time or if you make a mistake! Remember that life is too short to care about what others think.
I don’t really know your situation but maybe start at home where no one can hear you, be loud and take up space, find confidence in your voice. And then slowly start bringing that confidence elsewhere too.
If singing is what you love then don’t give up. I believe in you!!
the way i overcame it was to just scream lyrics when im alone, if your crazier alone its easier to sing not shy in front of others. and if people say your singing sucks its because they only hear the best takes of people who do it for a career
I usually try to sing in talent shows and the more I kept doing it the less shy I got. That is how I got over my shyness.
@@Crazilynormal89 Like in school or outside? Either way that's cool
@@yah660 I did it though out school. I also had the honor of going on the Broadway stage on November 13, 2019 to rap my own song and I wasn’t nervous one bit. So it payed off going to the talent show of my school.
Wow, I classified spot on as a tenor!
Low note: G2
High note: D5
Primo: E4
Secondo: A4
Honestly I expected that, but I didn’t think it would be so evident 😅
Very good job mate, thank you! 💪🏻💪🏻
Congrats! I personally always knew that I am an alto but didn't thought I am a mezzo too
Lol we are one note apart I have A2 to E5
I was classified as a soprano in high school but I am much more comfortable in alto. Because I strained so much to sing those soprano notes, now my voice is shot. So sad. :(
Yeah, that sucks. At my middle school, we switch which voice parts we sing throughout the year to extend our range. While I get where they’re coming from, it’s real annoying to be a contralto singing soprano
I had this problem in church choir a few years ago. I could hit some soprano notes, but not others. :(
Is there anyway to fix a shot throat? I've never sang before, I'm new to it but I'm almost positive I fudged my voice. Once when I was young me and my aunt (we're the exact same age) were doing a scream competition. We literally screamed to the very top, every atom in our lungs. And each time that happened we'd do it even higher when we thought we couldn't (lmao imagine what the neighbors were thinking XD). Don't know what to do, think or start with
C#4-C4 to G3-G#3
PP: E4
SP: B4
I've been singing soprano all my life. Turns out I'm a baritone after all.
This video was amazing! Keep up the good work!
My range is D3-F5 (Alto & Mezzo)
Primo is C4 (Tenor)
Secondo is B4-F5 (Tenor, Alto & Mezzo)
I normally sing as an alto on the choir but I sang as a Tenor a few months ago and recently continued singing Tenor since there aren't many tenors now 😁
I enjoy singing even the soprano notes sometimes, I'm working on my range so that I can achieve some higher and lower notes 😊
Thank you for this, I have always been classified as a tenor. Occasionally diving into alto ranges to "beef up" man-power when there are shortages in that range. Once or twice, I've done a bit of Baritone. Your test confirmed Tenor Vocal Range for me.
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I am a female baritone! 🎉 When i was in chior they put me in alto bc im a girl. So by default I forced myself to talk higher. I am NEVER forcing a higher voice bc i am a woman again. range is a2-c#5 and my primo voice was the exact classification for baritone.
I was classified as a Mezzo but was placed in Alto by the Choir Director because we had a surplus of Sopranos. I think it served me well because I was able to hone my lower range during my first few years as a Chorister. Now, I am flexible hahaha!
A2-F#5! Lots of training and practice but I feel like I've been blessed!
This was probably the most helpful video I've ever seen!
I was a choirgirl for so many years and just naturally shifted from Soprano to Alto at around 14.
I started HRT a litttle over 4 years ago but never somehow considered how it would affect my singing voice...
Turns out I'm a bass now!
Falsetto: G#0 (C2)-F7
Chest: D1 (F#2)-A2 (D3) G4 (A5) C#6 (A7)
Head: C#0 (Bb1) D2-F2-C3 A4 (A6) (G8)
W H A T
Bud I'm not sure what this is but I think you did something wrong 😭 or are you trolling??
Its pretty funny that I am a boy...But I am a soprano! So when you said "Its the ladies' turn!" I couldnt help it but chuckle! I love this video though, very helpful :)
I have a pretty wide actual range, but never tried this "test" in all the years I sang in school. I was pretty spot on calling myself a "low tenor/bari-tenor," usually singing tenor 2 in choir. The lower part of baritone was more reliable than the upper part of tenor, but my primo/secondo is comfortably at the bottom of the tenor range. Thanks for the video - it was fun!
Lowest Note: F#2
Highest Belt: B4
Head Voice: C#6
Whistle Register: A6
Timbre: Varies
Weight: Varies
Comfort Range: D3 - G4 - A5
What’s my voice type?
Im between an alto and a mezzo range, but i guess im more comfortable with the alto range. Thanks my man!
Thank you so much for this exercise. My range at this point is C2 to C4. It is stretched at C4 and takes a lot of focus to get a decent result. It is easier for me to gently try notes lower than C2 and sometimes I can get an almost comfortable E1.
That's a hell of a low voice, that must be "basso profundo", if I have the sub-category right. I think I'm pretty much a standard bass, perhaps slightly on the bass-baritone side. Not totally sure.
I can "get an almost comfortable" B1 in the way you do with E1. That's a huge gap.
I can sing a C2 and if in a choir would tell them my absolute lowest reliable note is C2.
At top I can get an E-flat 5, but my voice totally refuses to reach E5. But it starts "stretching" at F4 in the way yours does at C4.
My comfortable range seems to be F2 - F4, which is why I said I might be on the bass-baritone side rather than standard bass, a semi-tone higher than standard bass (E2 - E4). Probably closer to standard bass than baritone though.
I'm not a singer and never sing, so this is my range without practice. I hear that top range improves a lot with practice. Does low range improve much too, or is that more fixed?
@@alantaylor6691 Same question, I'm an amateur male singer who started taking lessons for over a year. My lower range hasn't gained much, and so is its power. My lowest comfy note is G2 (sometimes in the morning I can go to F#2 or even F2, I've tried subharmonics on my own but they're unstable, at most I can reach A1). By lowest comfy note it isn't loud at all, I start to lose resonance at B-flat2/B2/C3, depending on how relaxed my voice is. When my voice is tired I even struggle with A-flat2.
I would say both the low and end end of your range is defined by your physiology, i.e. how your larynx is built, but usually the higher end extends more. I regard my highest note (head voice, falsetto, whatever terms you would use) as F5. If I increase my volume and remain a neutral larynx, then I've tried an A-flat5. I've done higher but the technique is questionable.
I definitely think I could go higher than F5. You know how the sopranos can extend their range beyond the soprano high C (C6)? Recently I'm looking for that technique called flageolet, though it's very difficult to execute because it gets so athletic haha.
Ok back to your question. I don't really train my lowest range. My chest voice has strengthened a lot after the lessons (I'm used to speak in a softer and higher tone, even now), when fully warmed up my chest voice range (not mixed voice) is G2 to B-flat4 (prolly can go higher in the future, but I ain't trying on my own haha). My teacher says that my lower range has a beautiful baritone timbre, with a little bit of tenor notes.
So the higher end has definitely improved, but my lower end hasn't really added notes. Maybe if I train my voice in the way basses do, I may acquire a few semitones?
Wow , just wow .. My lowest is A2 and highest belt is A#4 , Head goes to F5 ... I wish i could hit a C2 or even an E2 ..
i loved this, thank you! You are a great explainer with a solid, confident, speaking delivery.
I’m an alto but can definitely hit some mezzo notes, thank you for this test!
This seems very thorough, yet I'm really not understanding how to use it properly. It doesn't help that I'm not grokking the two breakpoints. For example, during the primo passagio test, I can feel my voice box progressively rising a little with every note. So how high is it supposed to be before I call it the breakpoint?
Yesss I totally feel you there I'm so confused
Same. Maybe we’re not holding our larynx right 😆
What helps me was I would sing the part in "All of me' when John Legend sings the "All" part in his higher tone that's my highest.
Yeah, in both primo and secundo I started the transition in soprano and end in alto. The most interesting part is, my vocal range covers soprano, mezzo and alto. So, yes, I got nothing from the video.
He means when you start to crack or strain.... Whenever it feel to hard to sing the Note, that is you're breaking point
This video was so helpful ! Thank you so much for making it! I fall between alto and tenor it seems, and I really appreciate what you said at the end!
Thank you so much for your generous knowledge and care for each voice type.
I love music and I love to sing in the comfort of my car, but this video is truly showing me how musically illiterate I am. This is hard, and I'm not sure I even know if I'matching the notes right to find my range. The gent in the video is easy to follow, It's just me failing to grasp this pretty much entirely.
Now, I KNOW for sure that my voice is definitely one of a kind... I am obviously not a tenor, bass, nor baritone, cause I'm not a guy, but I'm also not an alto, mezzo, nor soprano. These are my vocal ranges:
Lowest: G#3
Highest: Bb4
Primo Passaggio: B4
Secondo Passaggio: F#4.
I am none of the vocal ranges you've mentioned. I am a Contralto. As a vocal coach, I hope you have heard of this unique, rare vocal range.
G#4-E5 - this is quite interesting to me, because I’m not in choir anymore and I haven’t been for a few years now. So most of my singing comes from belting in the car, which has definitely trained my lower register! I used to be a very confident sop1, but now I’m much more interested in having a varied vocal range.
I have never had voice training but have done daily lessons with a lot of different Videos for almost 10 years now. Yours have earned a playlist on their own and still, I feel uncomfortable when singing. This video has confused me even more as my passagios are all over the place.
Nevertheless, as always, thank you for your time and efforts. Big ups
Thau
This is so interesting and fun to do, I am a bit of a low baritone but since I have a chest voice from about D2-B4 doing the middle range stuff in chest was fun to go through. I actually managed to get out C#2 and C2 as well but it wasnt quality or resonant. my full vocal range including extended techniques is about D1-E5 but my head voice and falsetto are a bit weak and I want to strengthen them more
Wow, very helpful thank you. When I first started vocal training 5 years ago I was classified a bass-baritone. Now my passaggio placements put me into the tenor range
What's strange is my strange goes from a half step below the alto range to the very top of the soprano range. For the longest time, I thought I was a mezzo soprano, but I'm actually an alto. Awesome!
Great video! Though quite confident that I’m an alto, I’m still confused because I seem to reach some notes for tenors (?!?). My lowest is A#2, highest at F#5, primo passagio at C#4, and secondo at G4.
But really, learned a lot from this video. Will subscribe from now on :)
You can be a female tenor, or contralto. Alto, technically not the choral part which is usually more mezzo, refers to contralto, the lowest female range.
Contraltos are such rare gems. I absolutely love their lower range!
There's no chance you can sing A#2. Remember he said quality note. You were probably harmonizing an octave higher, or doing some kind of death rattle
I literally have almost an identical range to you and im a male
@@TheBaumcm
You have to remember that SATB parts can’t go to as extreme pitches as solo parts because they generally have to be singable for a choir that includes mezzos and baritones. So the alto parts won’t go below what’s comfortable for the lower mezzos, and similar for the other parts.
I was a bit lost with the range part, but I wrote down primo and segundo anyway thinking i probably messed that up a bit. When you showed the chart I fit exactly into alto! G4 and D5 exactly, which makes so much sense cuz the note I can generally hit the easiest and hold it is an A5.
It's a bit hard to tell sometimes if I'm harmonizing or I'm singing the right note. Besides that I found out I get stuck earlier when going down chromatically than when singing the low notes alone. Like, on your test, I start singing note by note down from C4, and I get stuck at E3. However, when trying to sing an A2 by itself I can without a problem, so it's leading be to questionable results. It's probably because I'm not a trained singer whatsoever and I'm running out of air or failing to transition, I don't know.
There’s technique to learn to be able to transition from chest to head voice or vice versa, so I imagine it’s the same for going from chest to wherever bass voice comes from.
For the longest time, I could hit any notes within my range with ease, but if I tried chromatically going up or down, my voice would break in the middle and I didn’t understand because the notes I’d break on, I could still sing if I sang them alone.
So I think it’s just a matter of practicing transitioning
Im a female and my lowest note is E3 and my highest note is D#5 so i guess that puts me in alto. But whenever i sing i feel more comfortable singing songs that are in the mezzo range idk why
Probably you're not trained
@@BrigadieraRanaLogica yes i am not trained hahah
as a male who hasn't practiced in a while, i'm a bass but i've been singing like a tenor because it's been easier for some reason lol. I'm trying to see how to sing like a bass again
ok yeah i'm either bass or baritone
it sounds like ur an alto but some mezzo songs just fit into your vocal sweet spot :)
My voice is just starting to settle after transitioning (profile pic is old lol) and I had no idea what my range even is anymore. This has been suuuuuper helpful my dude, thanks a lot. (Went from Alto to Baritone for anyone interested lol)
I sang along down an octave. My range is B0 to G3 or A3. I love the contra octave! A well-timed D#1 changes the whole conversation. I try to keep my speaking voice 60 Hz and upward. Save the 40-60 range for conspiratorial asides.
Booming out a 120Hz note can make people feel ill. Give it a go!
Saw your channel, you're not kidding. You're like Tim Storms, in fact you might do B0 easier. That whole bit about him singing 7 octaves below 0 and a 10-octave range has to be bullshit doesn't it?