I once read on Humans of New York: "When someone does you wrong, you want the maximum amount of justice. But when you do wrong, you want the maximum amount of forgiveness and understanding."
@@blue-chaos96striker72I think you misunderstood the point of the post. He wasn't advocating compassion or retribution. He was just talking about different perspectives.
I like the symbolism used with the family, after the 1st surgery his daughter no longer goes, then the next and he becomes more dishevelled throughout. It shows what grief & revenge can do to a person
That scene with him in the bath tub, staring at the nurse. He has an expression of overwhelming despair, and she looks like she's trying not to be physically ill at the thought of what they've done to him.
Yes and initially he's accompanied by his two daughters then there's just one of them and after that none showing that he lost rest of his two daughters to his revenge
What’s interesting in these types of revenge shorts is that they very rarely ever show the actual crime being committed. You only hear of it second hand and it’s introduced so quickly by the guilty man who is already pleading for mercy. It’s easier for the audience to feel some sympathy whilst he desperately begs. I wonder though, had the film started out showing the horrific scene of an innocent young woman being SA-ed, murdered and mutilated by him, would a majority of us feel little to no compassion? I think it would drastically change opinions.
@@igorvoitenko841 I actually think it would be fascinating and a real gut punch if they had added the scene of him committing the attack after his final punishment(s) and ending. That would have had us challenging our emotional calibration for sure.
It was a good choice to subtly show us the dad’s mental state too. He’s emotionally deteriorating, stops bringing the daughters, tells them to proceed all the way to the end, even though it’s not giving him any peace or justice or closure. It’s a good allegory for high cost vices, that make us worse not better, yet we keep choosing to destroy ourselves anyway.
to me the issue is time revgenance and mercilessnes does have a place in the world but this slow agonizing spread of time just keeps all the pain perputally at the forfront of there mind. outside the attacker outside the many obvious allegorys there is a intense one relating to familys waiting for monsters on eath row to get to the chair. and how this very process where them down mentally as it makes them unable to ever forget it even momentairly. and how many stop trying not out of lack of care but being unable to burn out any longer.
@@housewilma4904 I think *justice* has a place in a modern society, but vengeance implies something else. It’s actually counterproductive in most cases to watch someone who’s wronged you suffer. It seems logical to our irrational brains when we’ve been wronged and are just desperately grasping at anything that could soothe the pain. So it makes sense we’d find it somehow comforting or therapeutic to punish the person who wronged us. But like you said, all that does is keep the pain at the forefront of the victim’s mind, so they never progress past the irrational early stages of grief. And now the victim is dealt even more trauma and stress with the complicated ethics and guilt of them taking part in inflicting violence on someone else.
@@trishachokshi8414 of course but in this case the crime was inflicting pain and mutilation on another person. hence justice must insure that person suffers as much as there viktom did how this suffering is deployed differs. id just rather eath row or life imprisonment for such sadistic crimes though honestly life imprisonment likely does more suffering long term because of what we discussed previously. but then again eath cant be taken back if the states wrong so neither is worry free unfornatly.
Honestly the worst thing about this short is that it's well... too short. A 30 to 40 minutes version of this would have been amazing cause this is great psychological/ body horror
The sequence at 4:19, where the camera pulls in as we watch the girl's expression of progressing horror, until it's right on her and she moves away, only for dad to come closer -- just really expertly done. Says so much without any words at all.
@@Mr-R.R. Except it isn't real. Families of victims of death row inmates were asked if they felt better after their loved one's killer was executed. The answer was almost unanimously yes.
@@sewpungyow5154 I think that’s the point of the film That torturing someone won’t get you anywhere, your loved one won’t come back and you’ll only be damaging yourself It’s better to either A) leave the criminal to rot in jail or B) kill them
and thats the message of the film the husband slides downhill consumed by his thirst for revenge. the nurse is hatin it and the supervisor steadily deteriorates when faced with the procedures on the inmate. the confuscuis quote is gold.. having said the crime was particularly heinous so part of me was u reap what u sow
This is what it feels like to be SA’d. You lose that feeling of control over your own body, as if people can just take it from you. You feel helpless and alone, like no one’s on your side. For me, it went on for a year straight. So like this guy, it got dragged out, and felt repetitive. Like each time I lost another inch of myself. Greatly symbolic.
As someone who just recently had a surgery performed, this is absolutely terrifying. The post-surgery is incredibly difficult, mentally and phisically. It's grueling trying to imagine what is going through the minds of the characters, especially the father who went on and on with the surgeries, the absolute hatred he must've felt, the suffering he inflicted not only upon Mr. Bingham, but to himself, anyone with that much anger surely can't have a fulfilling life. Also, imagine being convicted in this system, and having someone sadist on the other side of the glass, waiting to call on the phone and make them start your surgery.
I just got back a few day from my wife mommy surgery. Tummy tuck lipo, and a few c section fixes. All went extremely well but the post surgery was basically what it would be like if she had gotten hit by a car. Every move was excruciating so I was thinking that while watching.
@@reinburhythm3215no no sadist is correct maybe slight sociopath/psychopath works well for someone that is like the dad. There is being a person in grief and there is being a messed up person and most just blur the line so they can be both because it makes them feel better
This is all horrifying, but the line of ''steady revenue stream for our now privatized prison system'' is one of the scariest, frankly. Really well done! H a t e to have watched it
Think this is scifi? There are currently more than 116.000 people incarcerated in private prisons in the USA. The American prison industry has a revenue of approximately $5 billion. It's already happening.
Nowadays, the illegal organ harvesting and marketing by greedy, aggressive doctors reportedly continues on the global, deep dark web. A price schedule and a "best-by date" are published for potential buyers.
Ему и не может стать хорошо. Он потерял ребенка. Ты хоть на долю представляешь, что он переживает? Хотя, не удивительно, что не представляешь, ведь в фильме убийство и насилие просто сказано словами, считай, пропущено. "Ну убил какую-то девочку, ну изнасиловал, это не важно мельком пронеслось. А с ним за это вот что сделали! Изверги! Руки отняли, ноги, достоинство, уши, нос, язык!!!"
Something tells me that isn't a parade for the kiddies. But rather a parade FOR the kiddies, they saw the face of death and laughed at it and now they just face it. Not just dark, grim dark.
@@dawey8897 that's the point. Fearmongering only causes more fear. That's why it's grim dark, it's an inevitable cycle instead of dark stories' usual straight line. 100% better than Black Mirror. It actually says something.
wait so in the end the supervisor said that 5 years later he and the father go to highschools is bc they still continue trying to tell kids dont be like him??
Yea, that wasn't the right way to punish the convict. The victims family should have to petition a judge for further punishment and explain why they felt it was necessary.
Corinthia McGinty when seeking revenge you dig two graves. One for the person who wronged you, and one for yourself. The father and inmate did not die, but they suffered similar fates, death of the mind.
The most terrifying part about this is how they still keep him alive after all that. Just imagining living permanently in miserable state gives me chills
This is like a similar case of a Pakistani serial killer named Javed Iqbal. He was sexual abuser and had r@ped and killed more than 100 boys ranging age of 6-16 years. He then dismember them and dissolve them in acid. The judge later sentenced him death by similar manner that he killed the boys that is cut him into 100 pieces that too infront of the parents of the boys. He committed suicide before his punishment... People only showing empathy to this Willie because we have seen only his side of story and punishment. Now just imagine about the pain that school girl had endured when he r@ped, mutilated her body and her body later found by her dad.
If we had seen his crime on screen at the start there would be a lot less people defending him. People like him have no chance at reform, he was even making excuses after his sentencing.
Not everyone is the same. Even if we saw what he did to the girl and in the end he ended up fully regretting his actions, some ppl would still sympathise with him. And once again, many people, although they don't sympathise with him at all, would still think its immoral.
I loved how they put us in both the lawyer's and Willie's perspective, as the short makes us feel sorry but at the same time never makes us forget, both through the father and through the narrator's lines, the atrocities that Willie committed. This short is brilliant and a true masterpiece, a true example that even the most heinous crimes can be seen in other ways depending on who we are in the situation.
No, it does not. It is not about any technology we didn't have since 200 years back. People have had their limbs amputated way back then. Black Mirror is not about dystopias, it is about how we use technology, for the better or for the worse.
Whether or not the punishment is fitting aside, this seems like an unnecessarily expensive and strenuous process that most likely would not work on a large scale. I also would think about how awful it would be if someone got this punishment and it was found out that he or she was innocent of the crime.
@@iepvienredstoneHuy007 From what I have heard, harsh punishments are actually not a good deterrent for committing crimes. I think it has something to do with criminals themselves. Most rational people would see a punishment and certainly not want to commit crime, but criminals are generally not the most rational people. Maybe that whole idea of it not being a deterrent is wrong. If it actually is true that harsh punishments do deter people from committing crimes, this would definitely be doable on a small scale with a handful of particularly terrible individuals that definitely committed the crimes they are accused of. May I also suggest that instead of having amputations take place over and over for months, the amputations are done all at once? That would save the country more money as well as adhering to the idea that justice should be swift. That also gives them more time to be carted around as an example, because they will not have to worry about pausing for more surgeries. Also, seeing someone go from having all their limbs to none in a single day would probably having more of an impact than getting used to seeing them lose pieces here and there.
@@Gears_StartingThis is about punishment not deterrence. Why should be be able to live the rest of his life out in the safety of a prison. I don’t agree with capital punishment. But he deserves it none the less
@@Gears_Starting I was sure i would find an idiotic bloodthirsty psycho who actually thinks this punishment is fair and racional. And i was damn right.
What I find striking is that as time goes past, the daughters show more humanity than their own father. They are both there for the first surgery. Then there is only one of them. Then even she walks away whilst the father carries on watching. "An eye for an eye" might make us all blind but this also shows two young women with far greater compassion and decency than dear old dad.
@csknives2140 i'd say that maybe a more serious punishment, than the normal needle, but nobody deserves to be tortured, physically nor mentally, get showed off to kids in schools, and be left in a prison to rot, not being able to hear, speak or move. this is one of the most cruel types of torture, because this is impossible to recover from. and without sounding like a psycho, at least the boy got death. at least he got an escape. this man will sit here, however long fate decides he should. there comes a point, where everyone deserves a bit of compassion, and that should have been latest at the 2nd surgery.
@csknives2140 What would be the point of torturing someone who will never reenter society? The point of this short film is to ask the question "at what point does justice become equivalent to the evil committed?". Your idea of justice would just be a sadistic satisfaction for the people who where affected by the crime, it would serve no purpose other than that, the point of our correctional facilities is to be a deterrent and teach/ warn people not to offend and reoffend. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is saying evil begets evil. karma doesn't exist and has no bearing or power in the real world, it's just a hope that bad people get what's coming to them. Committing evil acts to an evil person makes you just as much of a monster as them. Forgiveness and/or acceptance is what brings true peace.
@@renuverma6995 Those who look to the justice system for vengeance are no better than the criminals who have harmed them. They simply have the sanction of the state in committing their crime.
roguishpaladin roguishpaladin Lets say someone kills a mans daughter, the man who lost his daughter wants the man who killed his daughter executed, are you saying the man who wants the original criminal dead is no better than the original offender?
Milan Vujcich a child molester or child killer should absolutely be . But everyone has their own opinions and beliefs. I have a 1 year old son. If anyone harmed him or took his life I would gladly do it myself 🤷🏻♀️
BTW For all those saying the punishment was deserved: I had a relative in a nursery home in the 90s. He had lost both legs, amputated above the knee due to diabetes/ smoking. First the foot of one leg, then the lower leg, then most of the other leg. His wife took very good care of him, came to visit every day from early morning til late evening, decorated his room, brought magazines, listened to the radio with him, watched TV, took him out in a wheelchair (he could not sit for long). After 5 years he said he wanted to die. There were also other things lacking, the care in the home was not very good, if he wanted to go to the restroom after lunch, the nurses would sit in their room, saying "we have a lunch break until 3 pm" and the wife would often go there and yell at them to come. But his condition alone, losing the legs, being bedridden, lead to suicidal thoughts after 5 years. He went on to live for some more years, though. So, I guess, losing your left hand would be a punishment to occupy your mind for years and decades.
Truly horrifying. A masterpiece, in under 13 minutes, about how low humanity can sink. It’s actually possible, that doctors, in a dystopian future, would forsake their Hippocratic oath, in obedience to flawed government edicts! 😢
Martin Borgonia the first one wasn’t terrible but disappointing at least, the rest were genuinely all cash grabs. That’s what happens when James Wan makes a horror movie. Edit: what I mean is the first movie is good (or in Saw’s case great) but the rest are just easy money.
I think it’s a way of seeing how they have reacted to his body getting cut off as they each of them leave due to the fact on how gruesome it looks when a new limb is cut off the other kid leaves as the more they can’t handle the fact they have to watch it happen in front of them so they never want to see it happen again
I actually think this is a good punishment. I don't really see anything wrong with it. People are saying the father is worse than the killer, but the father didn't kill anyone. I think they should start this punishment in the US too.
@Matthew W The father gave them the “OK” to go through with the surgeries, so technically he did kill him. He was no better than the killer, The killer lost his limbs and the father lost his family
“Darkness imprisoning me All that I see Absolute horror I cannot live I cannot die Trapped in myself Body my holding cell Landmine has taken my sight Taken my speech Taken my hearing Taken my arms Taken my legs Taken my soul Left me with life in hell” Some Metallica one/Johnny got his gun vibes here
In the US, you are not “proven innocent.” Ever. It’s either guilty or not guilty. There’s a huge difference. Once in a very great while someone is exonerated or given clemency. But the average inmate will most likely never receive either.
@@alilclosey28 5 billion and a new set of prosthetic limbs! I see it as a slight win for both sides. You get payed for that and they have prosthetics advance further.
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you" -- Friedrich Nietzsche.
@@kendrahein45 I think they were always monsters on the inside and now they just found an excuse to let the monster come to the surface. For all we know that man could have been violent with his children as well, using excuses like disobedience, bad grades and so on to justify his behavior.
anyone who violates a child to such a gruesome extent deserves no mercy from the justice system or the world, the amount of comments that are sympathizing with the assaulter is horrifying. you don't know what the anger feels like until it's someone you love
@@sibling_of_sin I suggest you rewatch the film and you'll figure it out. Spoiler: It's about how our criminal justice system makes a show of punishing individuals as a spectacle rather than out of concern for the victim. Notice how the victim was uncomfortable with the entire process? Notice how she wasn't the one calling the shots of how far the surgery went, but instead the dad was?
The sympathetic smirk on the female nurse/doctor saying "Now, now Mr. Bingham it'll all be over soon." as she's prepping him for surgery to lose 'his namesake' 🤣 😍
The principle of an eye for an eye was to restrain or limit vengeance, not demand it. A more exact statement would be "no more than an eye for an eye, no more than a tooth for a tooth."
@@Yolf65 Thank you. At last, someone who understands what was being taught. It differentiates justice from vengeance which is two eyes for an eye - THAT would leave the world blind.
@@uayfb1 Wow! You have given the key to unlock that objection! Those keys are usually simple and obvious, but I often lack the clarity to discern them. Thank you!
Is the death penalty humane ? Only if you assume death is the end. Perhaps it's a beginning. I look forward to this beginning and yet I dont believe this beginning is the same for everyone. We need a Saviour.
This is a good display on why punishment is not chosen by the ones that gut hurt/left behind. No matter the crime, that doesnt help anyone at all an just shows how cruel literally anyone can become, depending on the situation.
As a mother of a girl who is a survivor of a violent crime, I understand the father on real level. Altho we got justice in court, my daughter will live with the scars forever. He got 9 months cuz he was a youth. This would have been better
@@Uppensaidrugaddicti believe she means that the punishment in the film would be better than the current system, which lets too many assaulters get off easy
The sickest thing about this isn't the video itself, yet the comments I find on other social media platforms, saying how this is great and should be implemented. Absolutely deplorable
I love how it affects not only Willie but even his supervisor, the nurses, the doctor, and the family member who signed him off to be a guinea pig to this form of punishment. Amazingly well done. Also, difficult to stomach through when you're eating dinner.
Ive watched a lot of Omeletos...but this here...this is dark. Its done flawlessly of course because it touches on a side of many people who believe in eye for an eye but to see a depiction of that...wow.
@@AndyTaken so if it's an eye for an eye then you only stop when you remove on eye huh makes zero sense but ok. If someone goes and removes your eye and you remove his and you both have one left either of you could then go and A. get angry and remove the other or B. Or you get the other removes later down the line. The saying is that if I hurt you and then you hurt me then it spirals and people from all sides join in to get revenge for themselves and or people that were hurt by you.
Imagine the horror if after this they found out there was some new evidence introduced and he was actually innocent. That is the biggest reason against capital punishment. What happens if you were wrong
I think the Hippocratic oath is long gone. MDs remove healthy tissue all the time for "prevention." Vaccine mfrs are protected from any consequence for harm done by their elixirs. As to criminals, prosecutors and judges conspire to convict people all the time. Look at where people like the "insurgents" of Jan 6th are being held. How 'bout just the tortures we know about at Gitmo? How 'bout "Rendition" to other countries for torture under the "Patriot" Act and NDAA 2016?
@@KutWrite you cannot make a procedure or a cure that will be 100% effective 100% of the time. this is impossible. for the vaccine to be 100% sure of it;s safety it would have to take a couple of decades o testing if not more. in that time humans would have disappeared on the most part. Would you like for you and your loved ones to die? or take a risk with a vaccine that in 2 years made 3 casualties in the US that were linked to blood clots and can be treated now that we know about the effect. big pharma, the monopolies, the conglomerates, the monoliths of economy and lords of our lives do not want us DEAD, they want us to be ALIVE and CONSUMING and making them MONEY.
Really sadistic to the most extreme, even if the victim experiences no physical pain. So insane that makes you think that no society would ever condone such punishment. And hope it is so, indeed.
@@Valorius I am sorry but I hope the dad experiences the worst pain possible on this planet. I do not care what someone has done. This punishment is undescribable. It is bassically what my answer would be if you asked me the worst possible punishment.
@@AverageDev_Tutorials he got drunk and chopped a girl up like slapped ham he deserved a harsh punishment just not this eath. was the more rational and mercifull option in every way a short painfiull period followed by eath not a YEARS LONG slow eath.
@@AverageDev_Tutorials he did that was his crime he got drunk and high then mutliated a girl to eath the dad and kids is that girls family. he even admitted it at the start.
Alt Fit Humans can’t become “inhuman”. Just like cats can’t stop being cats. These are still people, loss of freedom would be punishment enough but this is just sick.
@Alt Fit On the contrary; artful violence is strictly human behavior. What other creature can you think of that is capable of such cruelty? Nature is brutal, but its violence doesn't come anywhere near the creativity that humans can muster. Accept that these things are within your nature, then watch your thoughts vigilantly, and do not let hatred and evil take root. That is the only solution.
@Alt Fit wtf r u talking abt bro. if u are going to say that the temporary inability to override emotions with logic is inhuman not only are you going to indict every act of human passion, moral judgments in themselves aren't really strictly logical in the first place. i.e. if there was no judicial system, the mans actions, though awful, might not even be "illogical". and i mean it should go without saying that there are other things that separate humans from other animals...
@Alt Fit not sure what that has to do with logic though. in terms of it being instinctual, murder can be premeditated. if anything the knowledge its wrong to kill people comes from emotion more than logic
Gijs de Bruine 'An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind' it makes a perfect world, everyone is blind, no corruption, no murder, no war, no politics etc👊
You need to watch academy killer on Liveleak and 3 guys 1 hammer. What would you feel if this happened to you or a family member of yours? Then come back to tell me what your solution would be to erradicate these crimes.
I dont understand what the problem is. He r**ed a girl and then murdered her. Drunk/drugged or not, it does not matter. Personally, i wouldnt want to watch, but it was deserved because of the cruelty. I am 100 percent on the side of the father for his decisions to proceed.
While I was growing up, my parents were friends with a couple that the husband was the one that flipped the switch on the executions in my state. During those years, he had to a change of heart and no longer supports death penalty. We HAVE to be so careful as humans not to let hate change our capacity for love. That's someone's somebody.
Imagine this film being forced upon inmates to view in all prisons? With the beginning and ending of the film saying; "Coming Soon At A Prison Near You!"
Oh wow, this was very disturbing. A long time ago I thought that x convict deserved to have an amputation depending on the crime and the severity of it, I’ve grown out of that mentality and this video just underscores why. There is no way in the world I could be one to tell them to proceed with the surgery. The state of the father after each additional surgery showcased that it doesn’t bring you any closure, it just makes your hate stronger.
@blepblep7245 Seriously, I would have been fine with the first couple of surgeries. There would have been a poster size picture of my daughter hanging in the window for him to see as well. I'm an eye for an eye supporter 100%
20+ years ago, I read a book of short stories. One included a guy who was trying to become an ambassador to a planet with unusual customs regarding the achievement of honor / standing in their society. The basic level started with amputating each finger on one hand with a different slow method for each. They used insects, fire, etc. You could take it up a level by having similar actions performed on a full half of your body. The most honored and leaders of that world would be left unable to see, feel, taste, smell, and barely hear anything. It disconnected them from all forms of pleasure to prevent corruption. I think the author was Pier's Anthony... It was a vivid enough story that it stuck with me... There was another in the book that involved farming that stuck in my mind too... Amazing author.
You're ALMOST certainly talking about one of Harlan Ellison's two collections - "Dangerous Visions" and "Again, Dangerous Visions". Both of the existing ones (and a third that's supposedly been "Coming Soon" for the last 40-ish years) are collections of SF/Fantasy short stories by various authors with a theme of "things that are too taboo for even SF/Fantasy authors to write about". Of course, "taboo" 40 years ago isn't quite the same as "taboo" today, so I suspect the third one will never be published. The farming story was PROBABLY Piers Anthony's "In The Barn", though I don't recall the first one you describe.
@@felsinferguson1125 I believe that you are correct and that it was the second book I read. I remember being shocked that it was just sitting on a shelf in a classroom at my high school. Books with stories like that had a lot of influence in shaping my perception of the world when I a teen / young adult. I feel a bit tempted to pick up copies of both books and read them now.
@@shaun6828 Actually, I think you were on the right track to begin with. I believe the story you are talking about is "On the Uses of Torture" by Piers Anthony from a short story collection called "Anthonology."
Whoa...had no idea Piers Anthony did dark stuff. I mean sure possible to believe any author can put a spin on humanities darker sides. I so enjoyed his Xanth. Also read Steppe. How peculiar to find this reference though. Thanks?
Asterio okay, so let it be, this is not justice, this is rage of revenge, imagine that you have robbed a shop for a chocolate, and your punishment will be like, seller wanted to get your full house, and now you are homeless because of taking one not paid chocolate bar.
You may be delusional here mr. Asterio. They put these criminals in a prison to protect the people from them, not to torture the prisoners. A prison is where you put a criminal isolated from humanity and love to make them repent. Those who either don't get changed from prison, or have too much of a serious case, get executed, and that is justice. Putting one man to pain would not make only him the criminal.
just seeing a human lose himself in film is haunting 'nurse!' *'yes mr bingham?'* 'they cutting off my right leg or me left?' *'thats your... left mr bingham!'* 'left legg...!' *'left leg!'*
This was pretty powerful in the way that it showed the literal deterioration of not only Willie but the father. Not letting go of pain rots you from the inside. Forgiveness is literally our salvation. That’s why it’s such a difficult journey for us all. I would highly encourage you to stay far away from ppl who can not and will not forgive or you’ll loose yourself to their torment
this is the first time that comments disgusted me more than what was happening in the horror movie itself. How easy it is to manipulate people’s consciousness by presenting them with understandable and simple images of the “guilty” and the “victim.” They will believe that this is justice, but if they throw away the veil of hypocrisy, it will be just simple savage cruelty.
As the story progresses you can see the dead girls family get more and more colorless this shows that revenge is never the answer and it will turn you into a miserable person
Mashaallah Moradi If you support anything like that, you already are a horrible person. All of them are. The murderer is but the worse is the others put themselves on equal levels as the murderer himself. All of them made themselves to horrendous monsters.
Very chilling, and depressing as hell. The punishment would have to be new, because if criminals knew that horror awaited them, most would make sure they weren't taken alive, no matter what. I know I would.
@Natasel Dude, it's been proven time and time again that the death penalty doesn't deter crime. That much is not a disputable claim, because it's a fact. In states without the death penalty, crime is actually lower, especially violent crime. The death penalty also costs taxpayers more than a life sentence because of the trial and everything required. So why try to justify it? Just say you want to kill people. You want people to die. You think we should kill other human beings as justice, and you don't think that killing killers is wrong, because it's okay for us to stoop to their level. Don't lie. You don't think the death penalty is more effective. You just want more death. An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind...
😂 or the last week of the month when they were going to the high school there was definitely a "LESS"on to learn about how punishment fits the crime! 😉
This is kinda thought provoking, I personally have no sympathy for anyone that hurt children and this guys literally r*ped and murdered a child. What he did to the child is worse than what was done to him, i think people would have less sympathy for him if we were shown his crime and how painful it is for the victim and their families
you're delusional, yes, what the child went through is terrible, but the girl achieved peace by being killed right after, this was a long process just to feed the dad's empty heart through revenge.
@@Elixir6904 Mutilating someone after they mutilated someone else just means we're no better and that we will resort to the same "wicked" things under the justification of being righteous. The child is dead, torturing a man won't bring them back. This of course doesn't mean the man shouldn't face punishment, but he in fact shouldn't be facing this one, maybe in your mind it's justified. It might be, since the first law that was ever written down was "eye for eye, teeth for teeth," but it doesn't in fact work. You might get some sort gratification but you're just feeding into the dehumanization of these people. He's a bad person, but would it make you a good person to punish him like this?
this shows how, as humans, when in rage and fury, we don’t have a fine line of morality. our sense of reality is altered when deep emotions of, specifically anger, is what is being dealt and felt with .
Indeed, witch also shows us as humans just how much perfection and true justice is impossible, esspessially on a societal and objective scale, I just got in high school, and if I came to meet a man like him in such a situation I wouldnt feel like that was justice at all, same scenario as if I were the father, I'd be more forgiving, as I've always been, but as I said previously, this shows us just how much perfection is impossible
Also how legal punishment can make it worse. If the legal system didn't forbid violence in retaliation, the man would probably have just beaten up William after he was proven guilty or killed him. This allowed him to essentially turn William into a vegetable
Gandhi was really correct about the quote: "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind." Revenge and anger is not going to get you anywhere but more worse suffering. As a Thai dude who has extremely anti-communist views, I wish that all communists will be either be crucified or sending them to concentration camps but I realized that I'll be turning into the monster that I swore to destroy.
@@phraya_techapit9910 One thing to remember is that most communists under a regime are only communists in name. They know what their government is doing. They know it's crimes. They don't know all of them, or how bad it may truly be because they have not seen the rest of the world to compare it with. But they are not allowed to speak up about what little they do know. If they protest, if they attempt to enlighten others, they will only be destroyed and perhaps even have their families targeted as a result. This is what authoritarian regimes do. Pity the peasant, but bear no remorse for it's master.
That is why joker is still continue killing more innocent people while batman failed to protect gotham from the joker time and time again.. i do not see that is doung any justice..
@@Blackmage4001 and i won't be surprise if batman will give the joker a VIP treatment in Arkham.. seriously Bruce Wayne could have spent more money enforcing more police and improving security in Arkham.. to batman, people like us are just sacrificial sheep to redeem to joker.. batman is the joke
@Gregory Marte so how will batman exactly stop the joker for killing more people, for good and permanent.. since Bruce Wayne bans death penalty and more innocent people gets killed everyday.. i think the lives of those innocent people and their love ones are a joke to you..
A lot of people in the comments are mad at the victim's father for continuing the surgery but I think the father's deterioration can also represent how he's punished himself for not having been able to protect his daughter at the time. There's also the component where even though the surgeries seem gruesome and overcompensating for the victim's murder, the victim might have been mutilated while she was alive whereas Willie gets the luxury of anesthesia and good medical care. So to the father, no amount of "an eye for an eye" feels like justice to him because he'll never get his daughter back.
And will probably turn out as Willy. Also landing at the same spot, waiting to be dismembered. Thus continueing the cycle. I can see part 2 already : He was in a car with a prostitute while drunk. Kills her in an angry rage. Plans to dispose her dismembered body, but was caught by the cops. The family of the prostitute wants justice too, but far far worse...
@@docducttape9270 In my opinion he became psychopath, the very moment he brought his underaged daughters to watch a man being dismembered. Seriously, which sane person takes his kids to watch such a thing ? He probably would let them see taking Willie's willie away, which is even more sickening. Revenge and justice are one thing. Purposely letting your kids behold such gruesome stuff is something totally different. It can mentally scar them.
i feel like omeleto is just the youtube black mirror
Just what I thought!
Kirkland Black Mirror, the stories aren't nearly as good, but they are free :D
Just better
@@easysteezy58 black mirror is dogshit lmao
@@wizardsmix7961 very much so black mirror, and they're both good you uncultured swine
Damn,this was waaaaaaaaay darker than I thought....
Man Of Curry it was so dark like really dark
It was so dark, darker than dark dark
Man Of Curry ikr
Darker than dolan dark
Man Of Curry what happens I don’t feel like watching i
I once read on Humans of New York: "When someone does you wrong, you want the maximum amount of justice. But when you do wrong, you want the maximum amount of forgiveness and understanding."
When you lose someone to a crime you will get it.
@@blue-chaos96striker72I think you misunderstood the point of the post. He wasn't advocating compassion or retribution. He was just talking about different perspectives.
@@blue-chaos96striker72that’s the whole point, bozo. Obviously you would want a greater punishment if someone you cared about was affected
I think you made a really good point here that too many of us miss somehow.
Yeah right ... Criminals will do anything to avoid getting punished!
I like the symbolism used with the family, after the 1st surgery his daughter no longer goes, then the next and he becomes more dishevelled throughout. It shows what grief & revenge can do to a person
I think the dad became the greater of the two monsters
Gruesome, but good.
@@halfstaffmusicSeriously? Are you seriously saying the child toucher is less of a monster then the dad?? 😂
@@carloscarloscarloscarlos247 all i'm saying is that perhaps some punishments say more about the punisher than the recipient
@@carloscarloscarloscarlos247Where in hell does it say he did THAT? All it establishes is that he killed someone?
That scene with him in the bath tub, staring at the nurse. He has an expression of overwhelming despair, and she looks like she's trying not to be physically ill at the thought of what they've done to him.
The nurse was preparing her response to his imminent request for a handy.
@ghost rider they get 30% lighter sentences as it is right now.
Natasel people can still feel bad for others, even if the people they feel bad towards did a terrible thing. We aren’t animals like them.
Natasel Nothing justifies government-sponsored revenge.
@@johnswaim3919 I was thinking that's what she was doing
They show how the father is devolving too. The surgeries aren’t helping him cope whatsoever.
Is ThErE a DoCtOr In ThE hOuSe ? Damn this question looks creepy as F@< # after typing out all weird .
Yes and initially he's accompanied by his two daughters then there's just one of them and after that none showing that he lost rest of his two daughters to his revenge
@Mr. & Mrs Smith That's incorrect.
I think the father finally found out what gets him going 😅
@@feelsbadman1833
No, it isn't.
What’s interesting in these types of revenge shorts is that they very rarely ever show the actual crime being committed. You only hear of it second hand and it’s introduced so quickly by the guilty man who is already pleading for mercy. It’s easier for the audience to feel some sympathy whilst he desperately begs.
I wonder though, had the film started out showing the horrific scene of an innocent young woman being SA-ed, murdered and mutilated by him, would a majority of us feel little to no compassion? I think it would drastically change opinions.
exactly my thoughts
I agree
@@igorvoitenko841 I actually think it would be fascinating and a real gut punch if they had added the scene of him committing the attack after his final punishment(s) and ending.
That would have had us challenging our emotional calibration for sure.
i don't think it would change opinions
Not even a young woman, a CHILD
This actor is so committed to this role. I cant imagine going through all those surgeries just for a 13 minute short movie!
LOL! 😆
@sepzgamin3518i don’t think anyone here is saying that it is.
@@LawnMower_gaming1 its just a joke man
@LawnMower_gaming1 Large whoosh right here
@@misterbluebanana8191 You do realise he responded to the joke with a joke of his own? r/disabledchildren
It was a good choice to subtly show us the dad’s mental state too. He’s emotionally deteriorating, stops bringing the daughters, tells them to proceed all the way to the end, even though it’s not giving him any peace or justice or closure. It’s a good allegory for high cost vices, that make us worse not better, yet we keep choosing to destroy ourselves anyway.
I think the daughters started refusing to go along with it.
Yes. The family is destroyed.
to me the issue is time revgenance and mercilessnes does have a place in the world but this slow agonizing spread of time just keeps all the pain perputally at the forfront of there mind.
outside the attacker outside the many obvious allegorys there is a intense one relating to familys waiting for monsters on eath row to get to the chair.
and how this very process where them down mentally as it makes them unable to ever forget it even momentairly.
and how many stop trying not out of lack of care but being unable to burn out any longer.
@@housewilma4904 I think *justice* has a place in a modern society, but vengeance implies something else.
It’s actually counterproductive in most cases to watch someone who’s wronged you suffer. It seems logical to our irrational brains when we’ve been wronged and are just desperately grasping at anything that could soothe the pain. So it makes sense we’d find it somehow comforting or therapeutic to punish the person who wronged us.
But like you said, all that does is keep the pain at the forefront of the victim’s mind, so they never progress past the irrational early stages of grief. And now the victim is dealt even more trauma and stress with the complicated ethics and guilt of them taking part in inflicting violence on someone else.
@@trishachokshi8414 of course but in this case the crime was inflicting pain and mutilation on another person.
hence justice must insure that person suffers as much as there viktom did how this suffering is deployed differs.
id just rather eath row or life imprisonment for such sadistic crimes though honestly life imprisonment likely does more suffering long term because of what we discussed previously.
but then again eath cant be taken back if the states wrong so neither is worry free unfornatly.
Is nobody going to talk about how that guy turned off a TV by throwing a piece of carrot across the room?
He must've hit it right on the power button?
Plus thought it was a radio
Damn good aim to throw a chunk of carrot and hit the Off button!
I thought it was tomato, so now I feel better... 😅
Trickshot
Honestly the worst thing about this short is that it's well... too short. A 30 to 40 minutes version of this would have been amazing cause this is great psychological/ body horror
The sequence at 4:19, where the camera pulls in as we watch the girl's expression of progressing horror, until it's right on her and she moves away, only for dad to come closer -- just really expertly done. Says so much without any words at all.
It says that she had to go to the bathroom, and the dad forgot his glasses.
it’s fascinating to me that you can see the father’s state deteriorating with every surgery. his anger gets him no where.
soup fluids agree
Shows the complete uselessness of the punishments and others
@@Mr-R.R. Except it isn't real. Families of victims of death row inmates were asked if they felt better after their loved one's killer was executed. The answer was almost unanimously yes.
@@rakijr9176 well that still won't change them from severe depression to joyful and energetic now will it?
@@sewpungyow5154 I think that’s the point of the film
That torturing someone won’t get you anywhere, your loved one won’t come back and you’ll only be damaging yourself
It’s better to either A) leave the criminal to rot in jail or B) kill them
The father's thirst for revenge slowly destroyed his humanity as well.
“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”
― Confucius
and thats the message of the film the husband slides downhill consumed by his thirst for revenge. the nurse is hatin it and the supervisor steadily deteriorates when faced with the procedures on the inmate. the confuscuis quote is gold..
having said the crime was particularly heinous so part of me was u reap what u sow
MARK WEIGHELL I mean he said the murder was an accident and he was high and drunk, I don’t think this is a deserving punishment, this is sickening
OneWeirdDude and that’s a mistake he made. Doesn’t mean he should be gassed
@@Musically_Declined I'm confused. Did you just say he committed a crime by "mistake"?
This is what it feels like to be SA’d. You lose that feeling of control over your own body, as if people can just take it from you. You feel helpless and alone, like no one’s on your side. For me, it went on for a year straight. So like this guy, it got dragged out, and felt repetitive. Like each time I lost another inch of myself. Greatly symbolic.
How are you doing now?
I hope you’re doing better, even if a little ❤
And do you think it would be right to become the person who does that to others?
@@Dryhten1801 What even is this comment
Cry about it
As someone who just recently had a surgery performed, this is absolutely terrifying. The post-surgery is incredibly difficult, mentally and phisically. It's grueling trying to imagine what is going through the minds of the characters, especially the father who went on and on with the surgeries, the absolute hatred he must've felt, the suffering he inflicted not only upon Mr. Bingham, but to himself, anyone with that much anger surely can't have a fulfilling life.
Also, imagine being convicted in this system, and having someone sadist on the other side of the glass, waiting to call on the phone and make them start your surgery.
I just got back a few day from my wife mommy surgery. Tummy tuck lipo, and a few c section fixes. All went extremely well but the post surgery was basically what it would be like if she had gotten hit by a car. Every move was excruciating so I was thinking that while watching.
tbf he was a rapist and a murderer so
I wouldn’t say people who choose to do that are sadists considering the context behind why they would go ahead with the amputations.
Worse still is the number of convicted folks who are innocent later on... nope.
@@reinburhythm3215no no sadist is correct maybe slight sociopath/psychopath works well for someone that is like the dad. There is being a person in grief and there is being a messed up person and most just blur the line so they can be both because it makes them feel better
He brought his daughters to WATCH? What a great dad. Trauma builds character.
No that dad is cruel
"Look at that sweetie! They're taking the bad mans left leg off now!"
You realize this ain’t real right
Yoshi The One You have fallen victim to an ancient comedy technique. It is known as sarcasm. Please research it so you don't embarrass yourself again.
I love how people feel sorry for the murdered. I'm sorry but he killed a nine year old girl I feel nothing for him.
Should have been called The Gradual Disappearance of Willie Bingham.
-p Catalano oof
Lol
it doesn't sound as catchy
Lol
Hmmm... how about "Fading Willie". Oops
This is all horrifying, but the line of ''steady revenue stream for our now privatized prison system'' is one of the scariest, frankly. Really well done! H a t e to have watched it
Think this is scifi? There are currently more than 116.000 people incarcerated in private prisons in the USA. The American prison industry has a revenue of approximately $5 billion. It's already happening.
Really? That was the scariest thing? Not that people allow the State to do this?
@@mtothec9720 The steady stream of revenue came from harvesting the convicts' organs; a lung and a kidney in Bingham's case.
@@howtoappearincompletely9739
Yes. I know. Because….. of…… government allowing it.
Nowadays, the illegal organ harvesting and marketing by greedy, aggressive doctors reportedly continues on the global, deep dark web. A price schedule and a "best-by date" are published for potential buyers.
You could see how it's basically a tool for handling grief in the worst way. The way the father looks worse every time yet proceeds is crazy.
How? Have you ever been in that position? If you forgave someone like that you're inhumane
Ему и не может стать хорошо. Он потерял ребенка. Ты хоть на долю представляешь, что он переживает? Хотя, не удивительно, что не представляешь, ведь в фильме убийство и насилие просто сказано словами, считай, пропущено. "Ну убил какую-то девочку, ну изнасиловал, это не важно мельком пронеслось. А с ним за это вот что сделали! Изверги! Руки отняли, ноги, достоинство, уши, нос, язык!!!"
So for the whole 5 years after his last surgery willie has been paraded around schools like some circus freakshow. Damn so dark
Something tells me that isn't a parade for the kiddies. But rather a parade FOR the kiddies, they saw the face of death and laughed at it and now they just face it.
Not just dark, grim dark.
@@KopitioBozynski fearmongering doesnt work. It never works
@@dawey8897 that's the point. Fearmongering only causes more fear.
That's why it's grim dark, it's an inevitable cycle instead of dark stories' usual straight line.
100% better than Black Mirror. It actually says something.
They said he is to be made a national example
wait so in the end the supervisor said that 5 years later he and the father go to highschools is bc they still continue trying to tell kids dont be like him??
The more you watch the more you see the dad get sicker and sicker and the daughters get farther and farther away
Revenge does that to you.
Bubbling Babbler revenge is a fools game
Yea, that wasn't the right way to punish the convict. The victims family should have to petition a judge for further punishment and explain why they felt it was necessary.
Corinthia McGinty when seeking revenge you dig two graves. One for the person who wronged you, and one for yourself. The father and inmate did not die, but they suffered similar fates, death of the mind.
Woah dude you’re a genius
The most terrifying part about this is how they still keep him alive after all that. Just imagining living permanently in miserable state gives me chills
This is like a similar case of a Pakistani serial killer named Javed Iqbal. He was sexual abuser and had r@ped and killed more than 100 boys ranging age of 6-16 years. He then dismember them and dissolve them in acid. The judge later sentenced him death by similar manner that he killed the boys that is cut him into 100 pieces that too infront of the parents of the boys. He committed suicide before his punishment... People only showing empathy to this Willie because we have seen only his side of story and punishment. Now just imagine about the pain that school girl had endured when he r@ped, mutilated her body and her body later found by her dad.
If we had seen his crime on screen at the start there would be a lot less people defending him. People like him have no chance at reform, he was even making excuses after his sentencing.
and what would this at do to lower this particular crime? if it does nothing, it is useless. A dad wanting revenge is understandable, not justified.
Not everyone is the same.
Even if we saw what he did to the girl and in the end he ended up fully regretting his actions, some ppl would still sympathise with him.
And once again, many people, although they don't sympathise with him at all, would still think its immoral.
so they essentially turn criminals into vegetables, I guess that's a fate worse than death
**Raiden from MK11 insues**
R/cursedcoments
Even worse is that their bodies are vegetables, not their minds...
Hehe
C a r r o t s
I’d rather be dead then be muitlated and never having the freedom to walk or move my hands
omg the guy who plays the prisoner is an amazing actor, seriously so much talent. well done!!
Kevin Dee
He isn’t an actor
@@g-man8269 Then what is he?
@@AllisonChains64 obviously he's a prisoner didn't you watch the video
I'm being facetious obviously
@@Clippidyclappidy You mean sarcastic? Facetious isn't exactly the correct word lol
I loved how they put us in both the lawyer's and Willie's perspective, as the short makes us feel sorry but at the same time never makes us forget, both through the father and through the narrator's lines, the atrocities that Willie committed. This short is brilliant and a true masterpiece, a true example that even the most heinous crimes can be seen in other ways depending on who we are in the situation.
"Mr. Bingham would lose his namesake... Willy, Willy." Are they taking the piss, or what?
No. They meant something else.
This belongs in an episode of Black Mirror.
This IS an episode of Black Mirror, in spirit.
White Bear. Most people didn’t like the episode, but I thought it’s message was very thoughtful.
@@jki808 Every BM episode is excellent in its own way- like Twilight Zone was.
No, it does not. It is not about any technology we didn't have since 200 years back. People have had their limbs amputated way back then. Black Mirror is not about dystopias, it is about how we use technology, for the better or for the worse.
All of these remind me of BM
The father essentially killed Mr Bingham, not literally but worse
Yep, disturbing!
Yes, they stripped him off of his humanity. And his dignity.
More precisely, he made him "disappear".
nahh the most terrifying thing is the cloth towel in a public bathroom 7:28
Underrated comment
@@clinch4402 fr
Whether or not the punishment is fitting aside, this seems like an unnecessarily expensive and strenuous process that most likely would not work on a large scale. I also would think about how awful it would be if someone got this punishment and it was found out that he or she was innocent of the crime.
Maybe on large scale that is. But do it to a couple of fellows monsters to make examples of and most will lost their will to commit horrible crimes
@@iepvienredstoneHuy007 From what I have heard, harsh punishments are actually not a good deterrent for committing crimes. I think it has something to do with criminals themselves. Most rational people would see a punishment and certainly not want to commit crime, but criminals are generally not the most rational people. Maybe that whole idea of it not being a deterrent is wrong. If it actually is true that harsh punishments do deter people from committing crimes, this would definitely be doable on a small scale with a handful of particularly terrible individuals that definitely committed the crimes they are accused of. May I also suggest that instead of having amputations take place over and over for months, the amputations are done all at once? That would save the country more money as well as adhering to the idea that justice should be swift. That also gives them more time to be carted around as an example, because they will not have to worry about pausing for more surgeries. Also, seeing someone go from having all their limbs to none in a single day would probably having more of an impact than getting used to seeing them lose pieces here and there.
@@Gears_Starting just watch A Clockwork Orange
@@Gears_StartingThis is about punishment not deterrence. Why should be be able to live the rest of his life out in the safety of a prison.
I don’t agree with capital punishment. But he deserves it none the less
@@Gears_Starting I was sure i would find an idiotic bloodthirsty psycho who actually thinks this punishment is fair and racional. And i was damn right.
What I find striking is that as time goes past, the daughters show more humanity than their own father. They are both there for the first surgery. Then there is only one of them. Then even she walks away whilst the father carries on watching. "An eye for an eye" might make us all blind but this also shows two young women with far greater compassion and decency than dear old dad.
anjakellenjeter Even more so when you think that the victim was probably their sister
Did you see how the father looked after the last surgery? These acts of revenge did not bring him the relief that he sought.
These types of tragedies leave more than one victim, the father included. I pity him though, almost as much as the prisoner, and the girls.
@csknives2140 i'd say that maybe a more serious punishment, than the normal needle, but nobody deserves to be tortured, physically nor mentally, get showed off to kids in schools, and be left in a prison to rot, not being able to hear, speak or move. this is one of the most cruel types of torture, because this is impossible to recover from. and without sounding like a psycho, at least the boy got death. at least he got an escape. this man will sit here, however long fate decides he should. there comes a point, where everyone deserves a bit of compassion, and that should have been latest at the 2nd surgery.
@csknives2140 What would be the point of torturing someone who will never reenter society? The point of this short film is to ask the question "at what point does justice become equivalent to the evil committed?". Your idea of justice would just be a sadistic satisfaction for the people who where affected by the crime, it would serve no purpose other than that, the point of our correctional facilities is to be a deterrent and teach/ warn people not to offend and reoffend. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is saying evil begets evil. karma doesn't exist and has no bearing or power in the real world, it's just a hope that bad people get what's coming to them. Committing evil acts to an evil person makes you just as much of a monster as them. Forgiveness and/or acceptance is what brings true peace.
Plot twist: They had the wrong guy.
SnoopyDoo um no he murdered her!
Banana Nice Cream lol
Banana Nice Cream he could sue them to HELL if that was the case
You can't talk to a lawyer if you no longer have a tongue.
Banana Nice Cream I was thinking that the whole time!
*"No arms or legs is basically how you exist right now, Willie. You don't do anything."* -Michael Scott
well, why didn’t he just say no? or fight back?
He clearly wanted it due to what he was wearing
The way the father looked towards the end, had the cold dead eyes of a killer himself.
MURDERER
That's good. Totally!
He became the killer in the process so the net amount was always the same.
@@renuverma6995 Those who look to the justice system for vengeance are no better than the criminals who have harmed them. They simply have the sanction of the state in committing their crime.
roguishpaladin roguishpaladin Lets say someone kills a mans daughter, the man who lost his daughter wants the man who killed his daughter executed, are you saying the man who wants the original criminal dead is no better than the original offender?
The inmate was an amazing actor. I really felt bad for him, the whole time. Such amazing an amazing actor
That look on his face after the second surgery is stuck in my mind 😑
Milan Vujcich you feel bad for a convicted murderer ?
@@mamacakes6296 What he did was horrible. But no one should be mutilated like that
Milan Vujcich a child molester or child killer should absolutely be . But everyone has their own opinions and beliefs. I have a 1 year old son. If anyone harmed him or took his life I would gladly do it myself 🤷🏻♀️
Luna Cally yes
BTW For all those saying the punishment was deserved: I had a relative in a nursery home in the 90s. He had lost both legs, amputated above the knee due to diabetes/ smoking. First the foot of one leg, then the lower leg, then most of the other leg. His wife took very good care of him, came to visit every day from early morning til late evening, decorated his room, brought magazines, listened to the radio with him, watched TV, took him out in a wheelchair (he could not sit for long). After 5 years he said he wanted to die. There were also other things lacking, the care in the home was not very good, if he wanted to go to the restroom after lunch, the nurses would sit in their room, saying "we have a lunch break until 3 pm" and the wife would often go there and yell at them to come.
But his condition alone, losing the legs, being bedridden, lead to suicidal thoughts after 5 years. He went on to live for some more years, though.
So, I guess, losing your left hand would be a punishment to occupy your mind for years and decades.
What does that has to do with anything?
why would that change someone’s mind
So?
@sepzgamin3518 Worse than the SA and murd£r of an innocent? Hardly.
Your relative made that with a child?
Truly horrifying. A masterpiece, in under 13 minutes, about how low humanity can sink. It’s actually possible, that doctors, in a dystopian future, would forsake their Hippocratic oath, in obedience to flawed government edicts! 😢
LOL as if they already haven't 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is not at all low.
If it pays well 🤷🏽♂️
@@zetuandid you watch the video
@@zetuanYour right, humans have gone lower before
Its crazy cause u can see the staff was hoping the father wouldnt let it proceed on 8:40 but they were disappointed when told to commence
jasper delorino yes - this was abusive to the surgeons and nurses
MetraMan09 Holy crap, that’s some next level sexism.
AlexWithAStar I couldn’t even respond to that - I truly hope it was just rhetoric...
@@DocBree13 Same, it's such a gross train of thought!
MetraMan09 okay - i’m convinced you’re trolling, now - I’m actually quite relieved
who the hell takes their kids to see someone's body parts get cut off?
I would, some horror is necessary
Klansmen
Wholesome fun for the family
Me
the same people who take their kids to drag queen story time
"Willie? Willie you ok? Willie you in pain, Willie?" -Just had his manhood cut off-
Willie ? Willie ! You got no Willie now !
@@staceyjones8201💀
so he r@ped a young girl and killed and mutilated her but were supposed to feel bad for him? Im sure she cried and begged him to stop too.
exactly. he 'asked for it' !
I dont feel bad for him. I still think this is immoral.
Well those ten minutes really beat the entire conjuring franchise.
I actually enjoy the Conjuring series.
Martin Borgonia the first one wasn’t terrible but disappointing at least, the rest were genuinely all cash grabs. That’s what happens when James Wan makes a horror movie.
Edit: what I mean is the first movie is good (or in Saw’s case great) but the rest are just easy money.
oh dear LORD IM GOING IN GUYS WISH ME LUCK
JOSH SALINAS that I will do, good luck.
@@Rob_-dv6ei well, to be fair, Wan didn't direct the sequels to Saw and the only Conjuring sequel he directed was the Conjuring 2 which was okay
i suspect the father has also lost his two other daughters forever.
I think it’s a way of seeing how they have reacted to his body getting cut off as they each of them leave due to the fact on how gruesome it looks when a new limb is cut off the other kid leaves as the more they can’t handle the fact they have to watch it happen in front of them so they never want to see it happen again
@John Macmillan every rapist deserves at least castration
@@dirtdiv3r or just kill them swiftly. No need to spend more resources on them.
I actually think this is a good punishment. I don't really see anything wrong with it. People are saying the father is worse than the killer, but the father didn't kill anyone. I think they should start this punishment in the US too.
@Matthew W The father gave them the “OK” to go through with the surgeries, so technically he did kill him. He was no better than the killer, The killer lost his limbs and the father lost his family
“Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell
Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in hell”
Some Metallica one/Johnny got his gun vibes here
I wonder what kind of comments would have been generated if they chose actor(s) of different ethnicities
Imagine being proven innocent after all this
Jfixidjxbejsj lmao
I mean that’s happened with death row inmates...
In the US, you are not “proven innocent.” Ever.
It’s either guilty or not guilty.
There’s a huge difference.
Once in a very great while someone is exonerated or given clemency. But the average inmate will most likely never receive either.
@@alilclosey28 5 billion and a new set of prosthetic limbs! I see it as a slight win for both sides. You get payed for that and they have prosthetics advance further.
DogKeeperTube Yet they will never feel truly human again, would you choose money or humanity?
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you" -- Friedrich Nietzsche.
And to bad the father slowly became a monster.
These wise man quotes are the words we should understand and comply by for more than we know.
This is the whole theme of this video. They’ve have become monsters by doing this
@@kendrahein45 I think they were always monsters on the inside and now they just found an excuse to let the monster come to the surface. For all we know that man could have been violent with his children as well, using excuses like disobedience, bad grades and so on to justify his behavior.
Munich FX bruh tho
anyone who violates a child to such a gruesome extent deserves no mercy from the justice system or the world, the amount of comments that are sympathizing with the assaulter is horrifying. you don't know what the anger feels like until it's someone you love
if you allow revenge to turn yourself into a monster the end result is that there is going to be two monsters
Imagine missing the point entirely
@@nocturnalirwin4153 explain to me how you interpreted it
@@sibling_of_sin I suggest you rewatch the film and you'll figure it out.
Spoiler: It's about how our criminal justice system makes a show of punishing individuals as a spectacle rather than out of concern for the victim. Notice how the victim was uncomfortable with the entire process? Notice how she wasn't the one calling the shots of how far the surgery went, but instead the dad was?
Revenge wont bring your loved ones back.
The sympathetic smirk on the female nurse/doctor saying "Now, now Mr. Bingham it'll all be over soon." as she's prepping him for surgery to lose 'his namesake' 🤣 😍
“Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
Shadow 567 copycat
The principle of an eye for an eye was to restrain or limit vengeance, not demand it. A more exact statement would be "no more than an eye for an eye, no more than a tooth for a tooth."
@@kalebsworld8881 no one who says this is being original
@@Yolf65 Thank you. At last, someone who understands what was being taught. It differentiates justice from vengeance which is two eyes for an eye - THAT would leave the world blind.
@@uayfb1 Wow! You have given the key to unlock that objection! Those keys are usually simple and obvious, but I often lack the clarity to discern them. Thank you!
The death penalty is more humane than this. It’s sickening what human minds are capable of creating.
It is a fate worse than death 😟
Is the death penalty humane ?
Only if you assume death is the end.
Perhaps it's a beginning.
I look forward to this beginning and yet I dont believe this beginning is the same for everyone. We need a Saviour.
@@hopefilledsinner3911 i assume that
you hate death
@@nocontext9635 I assume your a troll
@@hopefilledsinner3911 troll or not you hate death
This is a good display on why punishment is not chosen by the ones that gut hurt/left behind. No matter the crime, that doesnt help anyone at all an just shows how cruel literally anyone can become, depending on the situation.
As a mother of a girl who is a survivor of a violent crime, I understand the father on real level.
Altho we got justice in court, my daughter will live with the scars forever. He got 9 months cuz he was a youth. This would have been better
🤗 😔
What do you mean this would have been better
@@brittneyreid it doesn’t represent justice torture this way isn’t justice
Everyone says this is isn't justice etc... BUT they're not the "r@ped and dead" daughter.....
@@Uppensaidrugaddicti believe she means that the punishment in the film would be better than the current system, which lets too many assaulters get off easy
The innocent kids in the classroom minding their own business painting butterflies and fairies: 👁👄👁
Not gonna lie I laughed so hard at that part
It's the little sod making chopping motions you are trying to reach.
This bothered me more than It should have. I’m kinda light headed. I need a nap.
Alden Friend sammeeee
Me too
Sameee
Alden Friend I jerked of to this video
"I’m kinda light headed. I need a nap."
That's just the Ambien. Would you like to reduce the dosage?
This is a very bad and inhumane punishment. Not to mention what will happen if an innocent person gets caught.
The sickest thing about this isn't the video itself, yet the comments I find on other social media platforms, saying how this is great and should be implemented. Absolutely deplorable
I'm scrolling through the comments to see if I can find those people and tell them to kill themselves lmao
@@flatearthgaming5357 opinionated one aren’t yah
Y si debería de hacerse realidad jaja
Easy for you to say when it's not your daughter
omg, I totally agree with you, it makes me sick seeing folks thinking this is the most wonderful idea and forgetting about empathy
I love how it affects not only Willie but even his supervisor, the nurses, the doctor, and the family member who signed him off to be a guinea pig to this form of punishment. Amazingly well done.
Also, difficult to stomach through when you're eating dinner.
same here
I ate fine
Must be the German in me
Well he did kill the little girl
@@TheGreyWolf93 Was that an Armin Meiwes reference?
@@Konstantinsen no, I was being serious lol
But now I gotta see what your talking about xD
Ive watched a lot of Omeletos...but this here...this is dark. Its done flawlessly of course because it touches on a side of many people who believe in eye for an eye but to see a depiction of that...wow.
84music1 yeah life in prison for someone like this is already punishment because they have to think about what they did for the rest of their lives.
As gandhi said an eye for an eye make the whole world Blind.
Couldn't have said it better myself 👏
@@antlando2555 Ghandi was unaware we have two eyes then
@@AndyTaken so if it's an eye for an eye then you only stop when you remove on eye huh makes zero sense but ok. If someone goes and removes your eye and you remove his and you both have one left either of you could then go and A. get angry and remove the other or B. Or you get the other removes later down the line. The saying is that if I hurt you and then you hurt me then it spirals and people from all sides join in to get revenge for themselves and or people that were hurt by you.
"That wasn't me, it was the booze" …. Every rapist and murderers excuse
Imagine the horror if after this they found out there was some new evidence introduced and he was actually innocent.
That is the biggest reason against capital punishment.
What happens if you were wrong
That's why you don't do this until you are 100% sure.
you also can't give someone back the years of their life they spent in prison
He admitted to it at the start though.
@@HA-nj1qt there’s always the outside chance that he is lying to cover for someone else. Unlikely I grant you. But not completely impossible
@@WNShadow814 unlikely but even if he did, so?He’s still lying to cover up for a child rapist and killer, that’s also terrible.
as a healthcare worker, this scares me even more. we all take an oath to prevent harm, so this is definitely shocking.
@@Maricarmjolo what about it
@@Maricarmjolo o👍
I think the Hippocratic oath is long gone. MDs remove healthy tissue all the time for "prevention." Vaccine mfrs are protected from any consequence for harm done by their elixirs.
As to criminals, prosecutors and judges conspire to convict people all the time. Look at where people like the "insurgents" of Jan 6th are being held. How 'bout just the tortures we know about at Gitmo? How 'bout "Rendition" to other countries for torture under the "Patriot" Act and NDAA 2016?
i dont think rapists and murderers share your silly compashion
@@KutWrite you cannot make a procedure or a cure that will be 100% effective 100% of the time. this is impossible.
for the vaccine to be 100% sure of it;s safety it would have to take a couple of decades o testing if not more. in that time humans would have disappeared on the most part.
Would you like for you and your loved ones to die? or take a risk with a vaccine that in 2 years made 3 casualties in the US that were linked to blood clots and can be treated now that we know about the effect.
big pharma, the monopolies, the conglomerates, the monoliths of economy and lords of our lives do not want us DEAD, they want us to be ALIVE and CONSUMING and making them MONEY.
I think this is the most disturbing thing I’ve watched on RUclips so far.
I agree.
Have you seen Unwatchable?
Oct Agon no I have not. I’m gonna be checking that out right now lol
no one like this comment
@@deep-fried-zombie699 idk about that
Really sadistic to the most extreme, even if the victim experiences no physical pain. So insane that makes you think that no society would ever condone such punishment. And hope it is so, indeed.
the criminal on the table was not, and never could be, the victim. The victim was the person he killed, their relatives, and the society he infected.
@@Valorius I am sorry but I hope the dad experiences the worst pain possible on this planet. I do not care what someone has done. This punishment is undescribable. It is bassically what my answer would be if you asked me the worst possible punishment.
@@AverageDev_Tutorials he got drunk and chopped a girl up like slapped ham he deserved a harsh punishment just not this eath.
was the more rational and mercifull option in every way a short painfiull period followed by eath not a YEARS LONG slow eath.
@@housewilma4904 I don't think he did that
@@AverageDev_Tutorials he did that was his crime he got drunk and high then mutliated a girl to eath the dad and kids is that girls family.
he even admitted it at the start.
I have never seen this high level of storytelling, acting and camera shots in my life. Omeleto hits so hard you cant forget a thing.
"When we stop seeing prisoners as human then there is no limit to what will be done to stop them"
Alt Fit
Humans can’t become “inhuman”. Just like cats can’t stop being cats. These are still people, loss of freedom would be punishment enough but this is just sick.
@Alt Fit On the contrary; artful violence is strictly human behavior. What other creature can you think of that is capable of such cruelty? Nature is brutal, but its violence doesn't come anywhere near the creativity that humans can muster. Accept that these things are within your nature, then watch your thoughts vigilantly, and do not let hatred and evil take root. That is the only solution.
@Alt Fit wtf r u talking abt bro. if u are going to say that the temporary inability to override emotions with logic is inhuman not only are you going to indict every act of human passion, moral judgments in themselves aren't really strictly logical in the first place. i.e. if there was no judicial system, the mans actions, though awful, might not even be "illogical". and i mean it should go without saying that there are other things that separate humans from other animals...
@Alt Fit not sure what that has to do with logic though. in terms of it being instinctual, murder can be premeditated. if anything the knowledge its wrong to kill people comes from emotion more than logic
Alt Fit most of that comes from mental instability only so many of those people are actually bad people
"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."
What happens in the video isn't justice, it's the loss of humanity.
Gijs de Bruine Amen well said
Gijs de Bruine
'An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind'
it makes a perfect world, everyone is blind, no corruption, no murder, no war, no politics etc👊
uncle scruz Y'know what, you might be onto something! XD
Amen
You need to watch academy killer on Liveleak and 3 guys 1 hammer. What would you feel if this happened to you or a family member of yours? Then come back to tell me what your solution would be to erradicate these crimes.
I dont understand what the problem is. He r**ed a girl and then murdered her. Drunk/drugged or not, it does not matter. Personally, i wouldnt want to watch, but it was deserved because of the cruelty. I am 100 percent on the side of the father for his decisions to proceed.
While I was growing up, my parents were friends with a couple that the husband was the one that flipped the switch on the executions in my state. During those years, he had to a change of heart and no longer supports death penalty.
We HAVE to be so careful as humans not to let hate change our capacity for love. That's someone's somebody.
Imagine this film being forced upon inmates to view in all prisons?
With the beginning and ending of the film saying;
"Coming Soon At A Prison
Near You!"
aaaahhh damn you had to go there...........
That'd be a violation of the 8th amendment in the U.S.
one word: RIOT
see my reply above @darlene
@@Justins_Channel cannot unsee this!
Willie is in a "I have no mouth but I must scream" situation.
Justas i just read that story. Chilling
Good book.
Likening the movie Johnny Got His Gun. Or just watch Metallica’s One music vid
Oh wow, this was very disturbing. A long time ago I thought that x convict deserved to have an amputation depending on the crime and the severity of it, I’ve grown out of that mentality and this video just underscores why. There is no way in the world I could be one to tell them to proceed with the surgery. The state of the father after each additional surgery showcased that it doesn’t bring you any closure, it just makes your hate stronger.
well i could be the one to tell them to proceed. lol.
@blepblep7245 Seriously, I would have been fine with the first couple of surgeries. There would have been a poster size picture of my daughter hanging in the window for him to see as well. I'm an eye for an eye supporter 100%
comments are so weird i cannot believe yall want me to feel sorry for a murderer and child rapist lol
This lmaoooo like he did worse
this!!
20+ years ago, I read a book of short stories. One included a guy who was trying to become an ambassador to a planet with unusual customs regarding the achievement of honor / standing in their society. The basic level started with amputating each finger on one hand with a different slow method for each. They used insects, fire, etc. You could take it up a level by having similar actions performed on a full half of your body. The most honored and leaders of that world would be left unable to see, feel, taste, smell, and barely hear anything. It disconnected them from all forms of pleasure to prevent corruption. I think the author was Pier's Anthony... It was a vivid enough story that it stuck with me... There was another in the book that involved farming that stuck in my mind too... Amazing author.
You're ALMOST certainly talking about one of Harlan Ellison's two collections - "Dangerous Visions" and "Again, Dangerous Visions". Both of the existing ones (and a third that's supposedly been "Coming Soon" for the last 40-ish years) are collections of SF/Fantasy short stories by various authors with a theme of "things that are too taboo for even SF/Fantasy authors to write about". Of course, "taboo" 40 years ago isn't quite the same as "taboo" today, so I suspect the third one will never be published. The farming story was PROBABLY Piers Anthony's "In The Barn", though I don't recall the first one you describe.
@@felsinferguson1125 I believe that you are correct and that it was the second book I read. I remember being shocked that it was just sitting on a shelf in a classroom at my high school. Books with stories like that had a lot of influence in shaping my perception of the world when I a teen / young adult.
I feel a bit tempted to pick up copies of both books and read them now.
@@shaun6828 Actually, I think you were on the right track to begin with. I believe the story you are talking about is "On the Uses of Torture" by Piers Anthony from a short story collection called "Anthonology."
@@80sRockBaby Thanks! It can be a bit difficult to find old stories / books via Google without a name or author.
Whoa...had no idea Piers Anthony did dark stuff.
I mean sure possible to believe any author can put a spin on humanities darker sides.
I so enjoyed his Xanth. Also read Steppe. How peculiar to find this reference though. Thanks?
THIS has nothing to do with justice. THIS is just pure revenge and agony.
I hate to say this, but this is as close to justice as it can get.
Asterio okay, so let it be, this is not justice, this is rage of revenge, imagine that you have robbed a shop for a chocolate, and your punishment will be like, seller wanted to get your full house, and now you are homeless because of taking one not paid chocolate bar.
Revenge, at first though sweet, Bitter ere long back on itself recoils. "John Milton "
IllcalltheeSociopath yes and I agree this is basically just revenge this is not right to do
You may be delusional here mr. Asterio.
They put these criminals in a prison to protect the people from them, not to torture the prisoners.
A prison is where you put a criminal isolated from humanity and love to make them repent.
Those who either don't get changed from prison, or have too much of a serious case, get executed, and that is justice.
Putting one man to pain would not make only him the criminal.
I am a bad person for thinking this would be a GREAT deterrent to murder?
Year. Horrible. Who do you think you are?
this is terrifying. i know what he did to the little girl was horrible and disgusting, but this is just inhumane.
It makes society as much of a horrific monster as the perpetrator is.
just seeing a human lose himself in film is haunting
'nurse!'
*'yes mr bingham?'*
'they cutting off my right leg or me left?'
*'thats your... left mr bingham!'*
'left legg...!'
*'left leg!'*
Jesus, I actually did have a nightmare about that last night.
Ya, I realized about that question too frok mr. Bringham.. But, don't get the point and sad about that. He's totally depressed.hmm
The smile he gave sent chills up my spine. Poor willie
Trinity Livingston same
I looked at this comment just as it happened in the film
”Willie”
”Willie”
”You have no willy”
LMAOO
Spoilers!😁
Quit being a little dick
”willie”
”willie”
”something you don't have any more”
Lmao
This was pretty powerful in the way that it showed the literal deterioration of not only Willie but the father. Not letting go of pain rots you from the inside. Forgiveness is literally our salvation. That’s why it’s such a difficult journey for us all. I would highly encourage you to stay far away from ppl who can not and will not forgive or you’ll loose yourself to their torment
this is the first time that comments disgusted me more than what was happening in the horror movie itself.
How easy it is to manipulate people’s consciousness by presenting them with understandable and simple images of the “guilty” and the “victim.” They will believe that this is justice, but if they throw away the veil of hypocrisy, it will be just simple savage cruelty.
As the story progresses you can see the dead girls family get more and more colorless this shows that revenge is never the answer and it will turn you into a miserable person
I like revenge
I didn’t notice that. Thank you for pointing that out. I did happen to notice that as it progressed that the man’s family all left him.
I couldn't agree anymore
Mashaallah Moradi i doubt revenge makes you miserable
Mashaallah Moradi If you support anything like that, you already are a horrible person. All of them are. The murderer is but the worse is the others put themselves on equal levels as the murderer himself.
All of them made themselves to horrendous monsters.
Very chilling, and depressing as hell.
The punishment would have to be new, because if criminals knew that horror awaited them, most would make sure they weren't taken alive, no matter what.
I know I would.
I would make sure to commit suicide.
@Natasel Dude, it's been proven time and time again that the death penalty doesn't deter crime. That much is not a disputable claim, because it's a fact. In states without the death penalty, crime is actually lower, especially violent crime. The death penalty also costs taxpayers more than a life sentence because of the trial and everything required. So why try to justify it? Just say you want to kill people. You want people to die. You think we should kill other human beings as justice, and you don't think that killing killers is wrong, because it's okay for us to stoop to their level.
Don't lie. You don't think the death penalty is more effective. You just want more death.
An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind...
As Sun Tzu predicted.
Look at medieval England the punishments were horrific! Didn’t stop anyone committing or even attempting murder.
ye ur a loser
The thought that won't stop repeating in my head is that 'two wrongs do not make a right'
They do.
This is such a good illustration of how the revenge of blind rage leads to atrocities instead of actual justice
AND HERE I WAS THINKING:
"WhAt CaN bE wOrSe ThAn DeAtH"
Wow that is just horrible
Edit: hahah my eyes have been opened by all the replies 😂😂😂
My comment wouldve been "stepping on a lego," until now.
Bob Altemare yeah there's that too 😄
Maddi Games that’s what I was thinking
Jean-Michael Morales Ortiz 😳😳😳😳 uh yeah there's uh that too 😂😂😂😂😂
Being on 1% on your phone
I think the medical staff was actually trying to help Willie escape a little at a time so no one would notice. That's clever!!
Jack o best comment yet!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jack o Yeah after they were going to rebuild him like legos and he escape
Am I the only one enjoying the comments more than this movie?
😂 or the last week of the month when they were going to the high school there was definitely a "LESS"on to learn about how punishment fits the crime! 😉
😂
3:24 breaking bad ass transition 💀
This is kinda thought provoking, I personally have no sympathy for anyone that hurt children and this guys literally r*ped and murdered a child. What he did to the child is worse than what was done to him, i think people would have less sympathy for him if we were shown his crime and how painful it is for the victim and their families
you're delusional, yes, what the child went through is terrible, but the girl achieved peace by being killed right after, this was a long process just to feed the dad's empty heart through revenge.
the emotional and societal damage this would wreak would be beyond catastrophic, that is the whole point of this story
@@CataSowlNo you’re delusional,when the girl was killed her entire body was taken and her innocence I think this man should face worse punishments
@@Elixir6904 Mutilating someone after they mutilated someone else just means we're no better and that we will resort to the same "wicked" things under the justification of being righteous. The child is dead, torturing a man won't bring them back. This of course doesn't mean the man shouldn't face punishment, but he in fact shouldn't be facing this one, maybe in your mind it's justified. It might be, since the first law that was ever written down was "eye for eye, teeth for teeth," but it doesn't in fact work. You might get some sort gratification but you're just feeding into the dehumanization of these people. He's a bad person, but would it make you a good person to punish him like this?
@@CataSowl it would show the criminals what could happen to them if they ever try anything
this shows how, as humans, when in rage and fury, we don’t have a fine line of morality. our sense of reality is altered when deep emotions of, specifically anger, is what is being dealt and felt with .
Indeed, witch also shows us as humans just how much perfection and true justice is impossible, esspessially on a societal and objective scale, I just got in high school, and if I came to meet a man like him in such a situation I wouldnt feel like that was justice at all, same scenario as if I were the father, I'd be more forgiving, as I've always been, but as I said previously, this shows us just how much perfection is impossible
Also how legal punishment can make it worse.
If the legal system didn't forbid violence in retaliation, the man would probably have just beaten up William after he was proven guilty or killed him. This allowed him to essentially turn William into a vegetable
Gandhi was really correct about the quote: "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind." Revenge and anger is not going to get you anywhere but more worse suffering. As a Thai dude who has extremely anti-communist views, I wish that all communists will be either be crucified or sending them to concentration camps but I realized that I'll be turning into the monster that I swore to destroy.
@@phraya_techapit9910 One thing to remember is that most communists under a regime are only communists in name. They know what their government is doing. They know it's crimes. They don't know all of them, or how bad it may truly be because they have not seen the rest of the world to compare it with. But they are not allowed to speak up about what little they do know. If they protest, if they attempt to enlighten others, they will only be destroyed and perhaps even have their families targeted as a result. This is what authoritarian regimes do. Pity the peasant, but bear no remorse for it's master.
@@krel7160 That's the case with Khmer Rouge soldiers if they even go against the Pol Pot regime. You're spitting right facts.
Ra’s Al Ghul: Your compassion is a weakness your enemies will not share
Batman: That’s why it’s so important. It separates us from them.
Space Wizard so you just gonna fold on ya fam 😪
That is why joker is still continue killing more innocent people while batman failed to protect gotham from the joker time and time again.. i do not see that is doung any justice..
@@saladinyamamoto8336 And don't forget that Batman failing to deal with Joker ends up with Metropolis getting nuked and Superman going crazy.
@@Blackmage4001 and i won't be surprise if batman will give the joker a VIP treatment in Arkham.. seriously Bruce Wayne could have spent more money enforcing more police and improving security in Arkham.. to batman, people like us are just sacrificial sheep to redeem to joker.. batman is the joke
@Gregory Marte so how will batman exactly stop the joker for killing more people, for good and permanent.. since Bruce Wayne bans death penalty and more innocent people gets killed everyday.. i think the lives of those innocent people and their love ones are a joke to you..
A lot of people in the comments are mad at the victim's father for continuing the surgery but I think the father's deterioration can also represent how he's punished himself for not having been able to protect his daughter at the time. There's also the component where even though the surgeries seem gruesome and overcompensating for the victim's murder, the victim might have been mutilated while she was alive whereas Willie gets the luxury of anesthesia and good medical care. So to the father, no amount of "an eye for an eye" feels like justice to him because he'll never get his daughter back.
Why didn’t he just say no?
He had no choice!
The ironic thing is that the Father transformed into a Sociopath at the end.
And will probably turn out as Willy. Also landing at the same spot, waiting to be dismembered. Thus continueing the cycle.
I can see part 2 already :
He was in a car with a prostitute while drunk. Kills her in an angry rage. Plans to dispose her dismembered body, but was caught by the cops. The family of the prostitute wants justice too, but far far worse...
@@famouswarrior327 no , just no.
What did he do to be a psychopath?
@@docducttape9270 In my opinion he became psychopath, the very moment he brought his underaged daughters to watch a man being dismembered. Seriously, which sane person takes his kids to watch such a thing ? He probably would let them see taking Willie's willie away, which is even more sickening. Revenge and justice are one thing. Purposely letting your kids behold such gruesome stuff is something totally different. It can mentally scar them.
@@famouswarrior327 Please don't quit your day job
Story aside. This was so well shot.
yahh dat hand cutting though. errrr
He wasnt shot wtf, he was tortured????
CosmicFrank what do you mean ;-;
skädäm lmao
All of the preparations and shots of the omeleto movies are actually well done and deep which is why I subscribed.
He sa’d and unalived a young girl, he got off easy if you ask me
THIS