Why bourgeois democracy is a dictatorship of the rich
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- We’re told we live in a democracy, but whether we vote for Starmer or Sunak, we’re going to get pretty much the same thing. What’s democratic about that?
We’re told we have rights like freedom of speech and a free press, but the government is banning protests and the newspapers are all owned by billionaires. What’s the point of these “rights” if they don’t actually mean anything?
The fact is that the world is run by and for the rich. They decide everything and the rest of us don’t get a say. That isn’t democracy, that’s a dictatorship.
In this episode of Marxist Voice, Ben Gliniecki proves that what we live in today isn’t a real democracy. Instead, he will give a vision of what a real, socialist, democracy would look like, along with how communists can best fight for it.
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Just as the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, Roman, nor an Empire (Voltaire) so it is that the Liberal Democracies of today are neither liberal, much preferring arbitrary repression to liberal freedoms, nor democracies, since policy is made in direct opposition to the desires and belief of the majority of their populations.
@@Hoots_Maguire Thank you for teaching me : )
The HRE was Holy, Roman AND an Empire
@@Heretican Holy? Dont make me laugh.
It is impossible to prove it was holy.
As a result, in YOUR oh so special opinion, it was the holy roman empire.
edit: And on the 7th day, God said "Homies, im bored af. Mind nailing some dudes to some wood?", ever the holy soldiers, they obliged. It was Gods will that Caesar ruled...cause...uhm...my priest said so before he molested some kids at the back?
XD what a joke
I was here for this talk when it was delivered live, precisely argued & well researched - I still have my notes from it
Im a PSL member, and I have huge respect for the RCA
Nah, it’s disingenuous to argue on Gaza affecting a British election. Although Muslims may regard Palestine as their top issue (although I would argue many less vocal Muslims still regard the cost of living as more important) I would suggest most working class Brits would not.
@@aclark903many people of all backgrounds are saddened by the horror that the West is backing in Gaza
@@Dangreenwatson True, but only people free of immediate economic constraints are able to afford to protest, etc.
Wow, buddy - you need to get a life!
My daughters school has prohibited any discusion of palestine. Many detentions happened. They said they are not a political school. They cant discuss politics in a secondary school? Seriously?
UNBELIEVABLE
An essential question is ... who exactly makes this policy and who exerts power over those that do
It's worse than I imagined. I'm an expat.
That has been the case in Germany since forever, thanks to the 'We're so sorry' effect. I had a class mate from Palestine in early 90ies, she was not allowed to answer the question of her origins, because any other answer than 'Israel' would be antee semeetik.
The state is in panic mode and the kids know it 🍉🍉🍉Free Palestine now
Great speech Ben. The democracy in “western” countries is indeed for the wealth, and elections are held to give the general public the idea that they have a voice and a choice in running a country
What an excellent point comrade
One correction: the occupied Golan Heights were stolen by Israel from Syria, not Palestine
Historically, Syria and Palestine were long a single country and culture. The Roman name of the province was Syria Palaestina .
Important detail.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Before that it was called canaan. @@kubhlaikhan2015
Don't forget Sheba farms too
Historically it was Canaan with Philistines and Phoenicians being leagues of city states in the lowlands and Israel and Judah being highland kingdoms and then Edom, Moab, Ammon, being inland kingdoms. Eventually Assyria replaced Egypt as the dominant power and they started speaking Aramaic, the language named for the Syrian kingdom based in Damascus. This continued through Persian, Greek, and Roman rule. Then later the Arabs drive out the Romans and gradually the Aramaic speakers mostly switched to Levantine Arabic as a prestige language and for trade with other places that similarly adopted Arabic dialects. This is why Palestinians have often been called Syrians or Arabs. They are a distinct part of a broader cultural area. It's like calling a Scottish person British. They can in fact hold multiple identities at the same time.
This video came right in the nick of time with the most recent SCOTUS decision!
Making homelessness illegal?
@@DrSpooglemon no, making potus a sovereign you smurf
@@threedogzz I'll leave OP to answer my question. Personally I'd be more concerned with them making homelessness illegal than anything else. That has a direct life and death consequence to a lot of people. If that makes me a "smurf" well, whatever. Your opinion means very little to me.
@@DrSpooglemon yep, looks like we're all criminals now. If I ever lose my food stamps or housing I guess the thing to do would be to go crazy and take a few companions to go meet God.
@@DrSpooglemon if you arent born well off in america, you already have secured a death sentence. well off eurocentrics are vehemently against any level of social mobility for people born poor. they cant hide their disdain when they see a poor person having stuff. even if its just one meal a day. they hate that the poor person is able to have or do anything besides getting tortured by the well off for ego and entertainment. its really not much different to just make it legal to hunt us like animals, they already have deemed us to be legally less than cattle. remember, its illegal to starve a pet to death, but its perfectly legal to starve a worker to death.
Awesomely informative. A must listen for all the working class.
Very well done. Needs to be shared much more
serious question - why do so many british people deny that monarchs appoint over half their government and all the most consequential positions? why do people say you "abolished" the monarchy but the monarch still has the final say in if a law gets passed or not? that seems like absolute power doing everything it can to convince others it doesnt exist while still maintaining all of its original power.
Ignorance? A lack of class conciousness? Miseducation in primary and secondary school? State repression against hard left perspectives?
Most likely a blend of them all.
I was in set 2 and took sociology for my GCSE. We were woefully undereducated and not by the choice of my excellent but slightly reformist (shown via his "I used to be classist" ultra left comment, and some left but weak stances) teacher.
Not to mention the media. It is the material conditions/means of production that shape culture perspective.
As a post note I suspect you already knew lots if not all of this, but I hope it was helpful in some way : )
This talk is like a balm to my soul! ❤
Excellent 🙏🙏🙏Free Palestine
Solidarity ✊
...is nothing. Invisible. Dust in the wind.
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The ruling class is remarkably adroit at adapting to any kind of political system - even Communism.
Yes. This is my primary evaluation as an anarchist.
the 'communism' bit is invalid as it literally disenfranchised them; they didn't it adapt' to it; they fled, joined the white terror, undermined, etc
Not enough views on this video
Amazing stuff! Shame I couldn't attend it live!
I've been looking for something like this.
I'm with you, guys, let's grow this movement and overcome the Capitalist system, or it will destroy us even more as working class.
Great speech! BRAVO 👏
Who owns the means of production? What is the form of hegemony? Do we have democracy in the work place? How often are referendum used? Do you have a house of entitled lords? Do you have a FPP or MMP democracy?
Well in the ussr stalin took complete control of that. Odds are you will have more freedom under a democratic system than a communist where a single party takes all
Control of all aspects of life
This is my comment. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Great session.
I feel exactly the same way as an American citizen
strong arguments. well done from germany
A plutocracy in other words
Great video
So are you guys going to talk about Council Democracy? It's good talking about the problem but do you have a solution?
Before solution comes understanding.
Masses tethered to myth, functionally illiterate, needs a substantial percent much PR as the OTHER PR they have been fed since birth, ± .
Look at the mess after 2019 release of the Faust e Stein virus!
Great Bar ring ton Decl summarized best practices known against pan de MICS and THEY were decimated by peers and media under State Corps billion heir axis of dark deeds.
Just one existential example of too many to list here.
Weird they didnt touch on it in this, it tends to pop up in about evety third podcast otherwise xd.
Anyhow we do in fact have an entire episide just on that if youre interested:
ruclips.net/video/nyoo0qOeLEA/видео.html
@@ambasutori9053 The moment he quoted Trotsky was a big red flag. And then he switched his argument to being against a council democracy at the end of his talk.
Big Waste of time, traitors amongst your ranks.
Excellent points mentioned. The sheeple need to be woken up.
Yep.
"That Hegelien dialectics should provide a wonderful instrument for always being right, because they permit the interpretations of all defeats as the beginning of victory, is obvious.
One of the most beautiful examples of this kind of sophistry occurred after 1933 when the German Communists for nearly two years refused to recognise that Hitler's victory had been a defeat for the German Communist party"
Hannah Arednt.
has democracy happened, and i didn't notice?
But it is not. Billionaires and democracy stand in complete opposition to each other. The answer to wealth inequality is obviously more democracy
Just do a thought experiment. List all the policy and money decisions taken by the state last 365 days and see what percentage of them were for the people who elected the politicians and what percentage for the rich, wealthy pockets. You will see the glaring obvious. They get elected by the people and starts hurting those very people from day one. You are saying you need more of that?
@@madcoderz7206 i want more bottom up control of society. The problems you are describing are from a lack of democracy. Richard Wolff once said that it is rich to listen to capitalists brag about a high standard of living when they fought tooth and nail to oppose all the labor rights that cause that high standard of living. I think it is equally rich to impugn democracy as bourgeois when the bourgeoisie fought tooth and nail against every step to further democratize society. Because it is against their class interest.
@@abstractalien12345 Look what democracy for Brexit did to the UK. And look what non-democracy did to China for the last 30 years. I don't have the answer but it's not democracy in my opinion. Most of the major growth by many nations were not under democracy. But I am open to explore what drives the society towards a good path forward. For something as complex as this, there is obviously no single answer to this. I am pretty sure it's not democracy only.
I suspect that the problem that you have in the UK is similar to what we have here in the US and it is education... Here, they teach practical subjects by rote. What they do not teach is critical thinking and individual analysis as a way to learn. People accept what the corporate media tells them without question or evidence and then cheers on the war in Ukraine and yet, they are unable to find Russia on a map.
If I question the established narrative, I am often shouted down or met with angry hostility.
It is not unusual for senators or prominent government representatives to front run stocks and become many times millionaires. What's more disturbing is that they are getting rich on this tragic and dangerous war...
@1:05 The Captions say "133%" instead of "13%" as of cohering with the language spoken here. There are numerous other Caption issues in this video and other videos on RUclips.
Hey there
I'm from Mpls and I'll have to correct that the police were never really "kicked out" of the Twin Cities. There was a small part of a neighborhood that was fought for and retained as a space that police try not to interfere. Defunding the police made it onto a ballot thanks to city council and a lot of organizing, but was ultimately defeated. The law and order lobby remains strong especially outside the city there's a lot of pressure, and I'm pretty sure the policing budget has increased. We're in a period of slow reform, and at least there's adjacent agencies that have stepped in to provide drug user/emergency mental health services that police don't need to be doing....but policing remains strong 🙃
Great video
As a Fascist I completely agree with this take on democracy
Yes, Minister
This is why I am not just a communist or socialist, but an anarchist as well.
There is no way to do a state which has not yet resulted in some form of enslavement of the working class, whether within or outside of that nation.
There HAVE, however, been un-enslaved people within specifically anti-hierarchical societies, some of which exist today.
Anarchies already exist between multiple factors between individuals and groups, and we can STRENGTHEN the robustness of these anarchies WITH anarch ISM, or the intentional pursuit of non-hierarchy.
Non-hierarchy being, of a system composed of individuals or groups, the lack of ability of the powerful party to unprovokedly harm or coerce the less powerful party.
The closest thing I've seen of an anarchist is some of the homeless people and the billion and trillion heirs
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Do you have a branch/are affiliated with any party in the US?
Yes! Look up Revolutionary Communists of America :)
Just quote the Yale study showing public opinion has zero effect on government policy. QED
So we are fucked or tell us how we are going to change it ?
We do in fact have an entire episode just on its proletarian counterpart:
ruclips.net/video/nyoo0qOeLEA/видео.html
Larken Rose - Jones Plantation
Since RUclips brought me back here twice, I might as well add another comment: It's not "Bourgeois" that's incorrect. "Royalist" is the proper term, because there is enough inherited wealth and the echos of such still around today. You can even see and hear its genetic mark. Just look and listen, and you will see and hear it. Some light fires, some turn their back from those setting fires, and some can see both. IDK.
Nobody is listening..we in the comments are statistics, invisible😢😢😢
as the Old Testament (Isaiah 40:3) says: 'A cry in the wilderness: "Straighten the path for the Lord"'
13:10 those two different things
Has capitalism come to its transition-past phase? Socialism time? As per Jason Hickel perhaps.
Like your message, not too keen on the Communist word.
Maybe change the word to bring more people on board.
The Golan is occupied Syrian land, not Palestinian, right? At 11:25
Plutocracy really but the knowledge that the working people get the truth will do but we need a true Rousseau type pure democracy where everyone votes on everything we do not need politicians
I think you should consider the American tea party as a possible model for Communist politics.
The analysis presented here, focused on control of the government is one side of the power argument. The other side is funding.
The workers nearly 100% fund the US Federal government, and simultaneously have been run out of the government and politically persecuted.
It's clearly taxation without representation!
This connects to an older strain of democratic politics. The strategies here may seem more primitive than top down governance, but they're easy to communicate, popular, and have solid political economy theory behind them.
Organization around income taxes is the political bludgeon that can bring down this global financial autocracy.
The state of these governments, especially regarding taxation, debt, and worker representation, is appalling.
This cannot stand! It's the people funding the operation that are going to bring it to its knees.
We need left wing expression of these politics. They should be led by the left. Clearly the right has its own intentions here.
I think this approach is really confused as it focuses on rallying around a single secondary issues as opposed to a clear approach that the capitalist system is inherently contradictory and unbalanced against the working class no matter how many beads you slide around in the abacus. The working class needs to overthrow the ruling class that exploits them and seize power from them to run society on democratic, socialist terms.
@@samclaxton100 Your academic socialism has been completely toxic in American politics for a long time.
You don't actually have the ability to teach Americans this political language.
And, what they have been taught is backwards, so you're in an uphill battle there.
Here's a few one liners that work much better than condescending language from a political novice:
"Give me my money back!"
"No Taxation Without Representation"
You can rebalance the whole thing with the tax system, and produce better equality outcomes than actual Communist countries.
That's what real power looks like, you should figure out where the weak spots are and how to use them.
@@ywtcc Again, We can't win just by saying whatever's popular. The ideas of Marxism are a political fringe, the majority of the American working class don't know what it is, much less identify with it politically. But regardless it's these ideas and these ideas alone in the masses hands that can provide clarity and a roadmap to victory. The ONLY way that these ideas can ever take root in the working class and it's movement is if Marxists fight alongside the working class and provide that perspective by connecting it concretely to the real situation that people are living in today WITHOUT watering it down for contemporary prejudices. This process is going to take time, energy, and sacrifice. It will not work right away. But by fighting alongside the working class and showing them that a communist is someone who is on their side, and through practice it's only these ideas that can help them, we are going to eventually win the working class to the ideas of Marxism and the Working class WILL win power.
@@samclaxton100 You're on your own planet there.
I'm more of a scientific thinker, I'm not so sure about making predictions and adopting religious sounding ideologies. I'm quite sure I appreciate significantly more ideological diversity than that.
I look at the modes of communication I have, and that's what my politics is designed to fit.
I evolve my positions to fit the needs of the day.
This is someone the working class can actually trust, and talk to.
@@ywtcc Mate, HOW are you going to "rebalance the tax system"? There is no switch to do that, those decisions have never been within the grasp of working class people unless the working class was militant. The rich will never increase their own taxes until they face a greater existential danger, and if they do get forced into such a decision, they immediately get to working on how to reverse it, while the working class goes back to slave away, not having the free time to play politics like the rich do.
You cannot use the masters tools to bring his house down. You will never get into power while intending to harm the rich, since they delegate the power. You must take the power ny force, since they are guarding it by force.
cant be better said. It was said in the 19th century. After II world wars and countless regional wars, it cant be said now. The capitalists managed to crush the working class, which is now in its all time lowest.
Where does Jeremy Corbyn fit into this?
I'm not in this little group of communists, but CorBin fits into the capitalist (or "bourgeois" they call it) state as
as careerist who is there to help defend capitalist slavery while enriching himself, to sum it up
I agree with you but communism really isn’t the answer
Is this TommoRobbo?
Holy crap that into was pure leftist talking point word vomit.
You keep chanting
Life is moving somewhere else
How will it ever be otherwise? Answer: it will never be otherwise.
It isnt democracy because it’s a monarchy. Romanov the Windsors
ur analysis could do with a bit of nuance lol
Thank your lucky Stars for free speech 👍👍👍👍thank the British EMPIRE ❤️
don't worry, if these idiots get power you won't have free speech
Why should anyone feel lucky to be able to speak?
Free speech isan extremely basic human right, and you trying to use it as an example of the pinnacle of freedom is comically absurd and it proves the points made in this video.
Every society everywhere had free speech, mate. But they also had some other freedoms and rughts that the capitalism lacks.
@@vebdaklu first of all learn English, 🥵guess you have never been or lived in a communist or Muslim country god I don’t even know WHY I am answering such a silly fool 🥵
@@vebdaklu yeah, but there a a whole pile of places where you can not speak freely. It’s not the pinnacle, the most primary but still sadly not ubiquitous
@@vebdaklu
North Korea, communist, no free speech.
China, communist, no free speech.
USSR, you don't know how lucky you are! No free speech.
Free speech is an enlightenment concept. You only believe free speech is self evident because you have had it all your life.
First, first and first , provide a solution , then critisize something else.
Very easy to crisize , much dificult to solve problems, particularly difficult to solve social.management complexities
Thankfully, it stops people like you from having too much influence. From that point of view, its working quite well
Incisive
Does dissolving the Constituent Assembly because you lost the election count as bourgeois democracy?
Does inviting 4 imperialist expeditions, taking Georgia as hostage, funding terrorism and assassins and allying with the White Guards count as democracy?
Protocols of the Elders of Zion, we are now in a modern 🍞&🎪 Era.
The title to this podcast says it all.
A very important strategy to this is the poison in our food and building materials the flooding of synthetic drugs the dumbing down by the media and the list goes on.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahaha ha haha hahaha hah ha ha ha hahaha... -inhales- hahaha ha ha ha hahaha hah haha ha hahahahaha.
Take the hamster out of your anus.
The most sensible comment I've seen. Infact it is an intellectual powerhouse compared to the video.
but communism is a dictatorship of the apparatchiks.
little difference for those on the bottom.
Ideologies do not adapt for real world circumstances.
Economics based on ideology, left or right, do not adapt to circumstances and that is where they fail.
Ask Gorbachev
Lol gorby was a social democrat reformist, he intentionally brought capitalism back into the union for good, not anyone worth asking when it comes to the question of socialist economics. Furthermore a buerocratically degenerated workers state is by definition not a representation of communism..
So boring. This guy has never read any Marxist theory, so his talk remains at the level of journalism!
Now you got your own point, instead of being dictatorship of bourgeois,it is rich,you have become insane and talking anything
... what?
Speak English, man!
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@@saschahoupt6177 It cannot be said dictatorship of rich but dictatorship of bourgeois,will be legal truth
ChatGPT malfunctions be like..