American Reacts to The Most Brutal Sacking In History!
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- This is David Hartley's deep dive into the infamous sacking of Pete Best, The Beatles' drummer. We explore the reasons behind this dramatic decision, the impact on the band, and how it changed music history forever!
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My life took a similar course as the accordion player for the Sex Pistols in 1976.
@@epicduckdoctor Yeah, remember you joining after they turned down Midge Ure.
"Let's check them out!" 💗 It's this natural attitude that's so refreshing. So many ytbrs use inquisitiveness as a tool to gain comments. You ask for very little but want to give so much.
Listen to Pete Best's drumming in isolation, you'll hear why he was sacked. And he never got any better. Listen to some later recordings. He was bitter, even his mum chimed in, but he was only ever a temporary and only got the job because he had a drum kit and they had no other drummer. He thought he owned a place. Even when The Beatles toured Australia and Ringo was sick with tonsillitis, they bought in someone else rather than consider Pete Best. Stu Sutcliffe was more a member of the band than he was....and he was dead.
aye, my nan knew the family, she said about pete "it was always a when and never an if that he would get the boot, that lad just never tries to get better at anything, talent takes skill and pete probably couldnt even spell the word skill"
R.I.P. Stu Sutcliffe.
Not just because he had a drum kit, he also had a van.
People say it's sad that Pete Best was fired from The Beatles, but they forget how sad people would have been if they didn't get the chance to eat the absolutely fantastic bread he was knocking out in the factory
I would much rather listen to the drumming of the ex-'Rory Storm & the Hurricanes' drummer, changed to
'The Beatles' drummer, Ringo Starr...
...than eat any bread produced by
Pete Best.
If Pete Best were an accomplished drummer then he would have gone on to fame and fortune in another band... He didn't!
Aye. He was terrible.
Most brutal sacking? Oh please.
Please look up Mona Pete’s mother as she was the owner of the best music club at the time. She owned the Casbah Coffee Club in Liverpool and it will help you understand the relationship she had with the bands during that time and how they all depended on her for gigs.
The Beatles helped her build the club. Literally -- they did a lot of the painting. Got the gig as the house band because of that, and because the group that was originally supposed to be the house band broke up just before the Casbah opened, and the Beatles were available. That was months before Pete joined.
I can't watch stuff like this without thinking of the first Rutles movie "All You Need Is Cash".
I saw a youtube video in which one drummer challenged another drummer to play some Ringo Star drumming. The 2nd guy imagined it would be easy as it sounds so simple but discovered that Ringo is like a frickin metronome and the not-so-easy beats were deceptively difficult. I used play in local bands when i was younger. It ain't easy with a drunk bass player and a drummer on amphetamines.
As a straight fella I was teabagged once and i can tell you no sacking is more brutal than the old tea and two sugars..... thankfully there were no milk 😐
If the Quarrymen drummer had stayed with them we could have had John, Paul, George and Colin. He left after an argument with the band in 1959 (Colin Hanton).
Because of a contract issue, Pete couldn't be fired. Brian was called in to talk him into just leaving, quitting. Brian told him the others wanted him out and Pete was pissed, and in emotion, he quit.
In the US through most of their run, especially in the beginning, Ringo was the fan favorite. He got a lot more fan mail than the others. Although John, Paul, and George were all proficient at their instruments, and played at an intermediate level, Ringo was better at the drums than they on their strings. The other 3 had a leg up on writing songs, but all 4 were the frontman for the group. All 4 were lead singers.
Lee Curtis was called the English Elvis. He grabbed that gimmick and got popular for a couple years, since Elvis went into the army and had "lost his edge".
Tne Beatles wanted Bobby Graham to replace Pete Best, but he turned them down. Then they went for Ringo. Graham was probably a better drummer than Ringo but preferred the quieter life as a session man. Check out the wiki page for him to see the more than 100 Top 5 tracks he drummen on. My favourite is I know a place by Petula Clark, his drumming is awesome.
I seem to recall Trevor Morais being auditioned - just think, the Beatles could have been a "mixed" band, but would "they" have conquered '60s America?
Only 1:27 Into the video and already we have a fact that no one in the world ever connected. 😅 on the day the beatles changed forever. The big Frank S was also having a bad day. Who knew? 🤷♀️ and who knew we wanted to know? 🤷♀️ It's great 👍🏽
Jeez yeah that was a busy world month 😆
And just a month later, the Beatles recorded 'Love Me Do', so if they'd have kept him around for just one more month, he would've at least been getting royalties from that (though they might have re recorded with Ringo)
(I almost fell down a maaaassive rabbit hole)
Callous dismissals from a musical group - Pete Best is not alone, he could host a grievance committee with several King Crimsonites, any early-gen Mothers Of Invention who are still alive and not in jail, all the Deep Purple bassists, Matthew Hartley, Michael Dempsey, and...Will Heggie (according to a 1989 article in Sounds).
Things went this way, so that the Beatles albums became history with Ringo, and that is.
They were right to fire him -- he couldn't handle the challenge of studio recording. George Martin wasn't the first record producer to say so, the Decca staff also said he wasn't up to snuff (though they rejected the whole band), and when they recorded for Bert Kampfert in Germany he stripped down Best's drum kit to the bare minimum.
However they were wrong in the way they went about it, making Brian Epstein do the dirty work while they stayed away. This had been a pattern going back to the Quarrymen days, where John Lennon would get the manager to fire an inadequate member of the band or engineer a fight hoping the other guy would quit in disgust.
And while George was the nicest about the reason for firing Pete in the clips here, he was the most enthusiastic about getting rid of him back in 1962, the first to call for dumping him and bringing in Ringo (though John and Paul didn't take much convincing).
There was a non-musical reason for the Beatles to fire Pete, but it wasn't jealousy. John, Paul, and George (and Stu, when he was their bassist) were extremely close off-stage as well as on, but Pete would only be there for shows, rehearsals, and record-browsing sessions where they looked for new songs to cover. He was just a co-worker and they wanted, NEEDED, a friend. Ringo was that friend. They got to know Ringo in Hamburg in 1960 when they shared the bill at the Kaiserkeller with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. Even though he was in another band, a RIVAL band, Ringo was much more likely than Pete to hang out with the Beatles, drink with them, joke with them... they liked Ringo from the start, and with Pete it was more that... well... they didn't DISlike him...
Oh, and the band Pete was in before the Beatles was defunct. He was basically sitting around doing nothing when they offered him the drumming gig for the Hamburg trip.
2:21 Tommy Moore, Tommy Moore
Did you get very far?
Tommy Moore, Tommy Moore
Like does he have a car?
@bfmt42
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I'm surprised you haven't read "Tune In" by Mark Lewisohn. Or maybe you have and forgotten as the Pete Best "problem" becomes very evident very quickly. He was a shy guy and rarely interacted with them on stage and off. After gigs he would go off on his own while the other 3 (4 when Stu was still there) would stay and hang out. John said that they had wanted to get rid of him sooner but were cowards and waited until they had someone to do it for them.
10:30 _"Who...?"_ 😂😂😂😂
Pete Best actually played more live hours with The Beatles than Ringo Starr ever did
Little known fact: Pete Best actually made more bread than the Beatles. His first single was Loaf Me Do.
Not true about Paul wanting him out because he was handsome. That was an invention of author Philip Norman in his book Shout! and it's been rubbished by many people connected with The Beatles, including Paul himself. But it's clear in reading Shout! that Mr Norman clearly dislikes Paul and yet was totally uncritical of John. Not difficult to know who his fave and least fave Beatles were.
I get resentful when Brits refer to the English charts instead of the UK charts!
You can't be an average drummer in the greatest band ever.
John, I know your disdain of Oasis, but there's a similar story here, that of Tony McCarroll. Would be interesting to see you do a video of comparisons in music, like sacked drummers, guitarists, vocalists etc, and what happened to them after their sackings.
The fact of the matter is that Pete Best was an ok drummer but Ringo Starr was better it's just a fact you know at the end of day everyone seems to be forgetting that George Martin who got the Beatles in for the first audition basically turned round to Brian Epstein and said you can do what you want with him on stage x Pete Best but in terms of recording we will have someone else in it's just a fact is this a factor Pete Best was an ok drummer he just wasn't a great drummer that's why George Martin got Andy White in a professional drama and then when Ringo starter and I've not even Ringo Starr got to play on the first takes of Love Me Do because no one told George Martin
Pete best in his older years reminds me of the lecturer in the scouse not English video... What do you think jeremiah... We'll you won't tell us ya name will ya
Was that you playing Pete Best in a former life? Looks like it from the photo, and you being a drummer an all, LOL
Hi there again people I just have to say this hang on you're saying he was Reliable but that's but no he wasn't you had George Harrison in the Anthology from 1995 saying let he would remember this is George Harrison remembering that Pete Best wouldn't turn up for gigs or you'd be late and they were getting a bit pissed off with it if you were in a band and you had to keep calling someone else because your driver weren't there he didn't turn up and giving me warning what difference does the happen when they suddenly get the big time
Lennon really could be brutal - for a man who appeared to be so keen on giving peace a chance. However, PeteBest really wasnt very good- except in the looks department.
As much as I love the Beatles, I've never liked John Lennon.
A real nasty piece of work, hiding behind a phoney vail of peace and love.
I heard he treated Cynthia badly and didn't help out with Julian. Not sure if true or not, but I read that when she was battling to manage financially, she tried to sell John's old love letters and Paul bought them then out of kindness and gave them back to her.
I know this is the trendy opinion to have nowadays, but it's hardly groundbreaking since he admits to promoting peace because he knows the other side of it.
He had his issues with fatherhood, but he seemed to be loved by the majority of people who met him. World-renowned producers and musicians say he was one of the most professional and easiest people to work with. So make of that what you will.
@@nolaj114that’s the difference between Paul and John
The thing you got to realise as well as Paul McCartney said is that Pete Best you know as I said was a good drama but bring her was the better drama I mean Ringo Starr Was With The Beatles chief competitors and that was Rory storm and The Hurricanes if if Ringo have been rubbish so you no way without having in the group but he was a fantastic drummer still is you know admittedly The Beatles should have been a bit more of a what was the word I'm looking for there should have been you know they should have confronted Peter said look I'm sorry but we want you out I think even John Lennon admit that they were cowards you could argue at the end of the day he was their manager and normally managers doing do the hiring and firing
You've got to feel sorry for Pete Best, I'm so glad he finally got royalties, he seems a good man. It would be interesting to see what would have happened to The Beatles if he'd stayed. Parallel universe anyone?
listen to his drumming, pete getting fired was a when not an if
I don't and never have felt sorry for
Pete Best...
To me, he was just a sulky prat.
John Lennon was a truly nasty piece of work.
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My favourite Pete Best record.
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The other week you said you were horrified when your name cropped up in a video about reaction channels and I know you said you were going to start doing various things. I personally think all reaction channels should at the very least play the full advert the original video may have had rather than fast forwarding as you did on this one with just a brief mention. Just a thought 👍🏻
Tbf he's not being paid by the advertiser to show it, but still shows the name and some of it.
Most people cut sponsors out completely
@@emcr1 I know most people do and most people are wrong. It’s lazy and cheap content having a reaction channels, the very least they should do is allow the advert to run
@GazGaryGazza so you think if someone is doing a 10-20 minute video, they should add 3 minutes for a sponser they're not being paid to advertise? People probably skip watching the sponsors even when watching the none reaction versions, why would anyone sit and watch it second-hand?
I think he does enough, and he adds to videos with his own stuff (unlike a lot of people) but each to their own.
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Even worse than realising how much your bitcoin would be worth now
The Beatles are an irrelevant ancient pop group ?, discuss.
Stop with the hitting the cup it's ANNOYING also trying to copy the english stick to radio which you have a face for.