46 years after sinking, Edmund Fitzgerald visit still haunts Michigan diver

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2021
  • Nov. 10, 1975, will live in infamy in Michigan maritime history.
    It's the day the Edmund Fitzgerald got caught in a storm, got torn apart in 30-foot waves, and sank to the depths of Lake Superior - 530 feet below the surface, to be exact - taking 29 souls with her.
    2021 is the 46th anniversary of its sinking. Last year, on the 45th anniversary, a Michigan maritime documentarian recalled his dive to the wreck site, and the one image that continues to haunt him.
    Full story here: bit.ly/2ZjaB1O
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Комментарии • 594

  • @arcosprey4811
    @arcosprey4811 Год назад +531

    Anchor: "A discovery that haunts him forever"
    Diver: "Man I just can't wait to go back there again."

    • @glorygracek.1841
      @glorygracek.1841 Год назад +29

      Welcome to scientists/historians. It may haunt them, but they can't help themselves about going back. Plus that was way back in 2004 and this was 2021. So he has had time to learn to deal with it.

    • @Bandit69ply
      @Bandit69ply Год назад +16

      Lol. No kidding. Besides the man he saw wasn't even from the Fitz. It was determined he wasn't a crewman from the Fitz Because of how old the life vest design was that he wore.

    • @523Marc
      @523Marc Год назад +5

      Welcome to sensationalism and clickbait headlines. Its mainstream media journalism, what else do you ever expect 😂

    • @aspenmgy
      @aspenmgy Год назад +10

      This whole interview was a mess. From the sudden cuts to waves/water and the interviewer splicing his comments between the explorer's...this was a pain to watch.

    • @latortugapicante719
      @latortugapicante719 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@aspenmgyfirst time ever watching local news? That’s how they all are. Interview someone for an hour to use 30 seconds and then interrupt them the whole time

  • @cathyaudette1060
    @cathyaudette1060 2 года назад +1200

    I have heard that the reason no bodies ever surfaced is because the water is so frigid at the bottom of Superior that no bacteria survives there and the bodies do not decompose and float to the surface. Aside from the one man lying on the lake floor near the ship it is guessed that the other men's bodies are still inside the wreck. The Edmund Fitzgerald went down so fast and hit so hard the crew had no time to react. RIP to the 29 men who died along with their beloved Big Fitz.

    • @RW4X4X3006
      @RW4X4X3006 2 года назад +89

      Most, if not all, would be inside the wreck or under the load of taconite. Fitz went down very fast.

    • @deanladue3151
      @deanladue3151 2 года назад +99

      When it made the final dive, the water came smashing through the pilothouse windows and in likelihood washed the bridge crew out of the pilothouse. As far as i'm aware of, no bodies were ever discovered in the pilothouse, but the 1994 expedition to the wreck in addition to the one confirmed discovery also claimed that there were several more in the general area of the bow section. But wouldn't reveal their specific locations. Probably out of respect for the crew and families.

    • @RW4X4X3006
      @RW4X4X3006 2 года назад +49

      @@deanladue3151 People not familiar with the ocean or working with it, have no clue as to the awesome might of fluid dynamics.

    • @randallpelaez901
      @randallpelaez901 2 года назад +30

      All 29 are either inside, or, at least one is beside the wreck.

    • @ScoobyShotU
      @ScoobyShotU 2 года назад +40

      Yeah hence the song about the lake never giving up Its dead Its not only the Fitch wreck...

  • @kirkswanum7729
    @kirkswanum7729 Год назад +153

    My uncle worked on the Fitzgerald in 72,73,and 74. He decided he wanted to try something different in 75. Lucky him. And my Grandfather was on the Anderson the boat closest to it when it sank. The Fitzgerald is part of my family history.

    • @careyamos485
      @careyamos485 10 месяцев назад +2

      Wow so lucky

    • @colenewaltersmusicandother9330
      @colenewaltersmusicandother9330 7 месяцев назад

      Amazing

    • @tjmctube
      @tjmctube 4 месяца назад +1

      Interesting. I shipped out of Duluth in summer of 1976 at the age of 18. I was a deckhand, and the other two deckhands I worked with were on the Anderson also when the Fitz went down. He said the "old timers" were ready to die, sitting in their quarters with lifejackets on.

    • @gilliankingston8259
      @gilliankingston8259 3 месяца назад

      Very fortunate that he made the decision that saved his life. It's desperately sad that the 29 Men who lost their lives did so but they will never be forgotten (The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot) and whoever makes a video about the Edmund Fitzgerald should also show a picture/s of every Man/all the Men they have a picture/s of or at the very least mention him/them by name in Memorium, may they all rest in peace🚢⚓🌹🕊

  • @leroyjones6958
    @leroyjones6958 2 года назад +540

    One thing that is seldom to never talked about in polite company is how overloaded the Fitz was when she went down. They had been painting the water line higher and higher
    on the hull over the years so they could haul heavier loads. She was riding much lower in the water and with a MUCH HEAVIER load than she was originally designed to carry.
    Overloaded. Old. Big storm. Gone.

    • @andreawalbridge950
      @andreawalbridge950 2 года назад +46

      I believe this, many reports of being overloaded, there should have been massive lawsuits against the shipping company.

    • @joeruiz4010
      @joeruiz4010 2 года назад +19

      @@andreawalbridge950: The crew all wanted to take that voyage on that fateful night.........They didn't need to.

    • @miamiglia
      @miamiglia 2 года назад +4

      I never new that 👍

    • @420JackG
      @420JackG 2 года назад +35

      She wasn't even 20 years old though. When you start to hog and bow like that, there's nothing for it... but I'm inclined to believe she was overloaded, considering how she broke amidships. Something about "faulty or mishandled hatches" never has sat right with me.

    • @thekansan8683
      @thekansan8683 2 года назад +9

      If you want to know of a old ship, the Daniel J morrel was 60 years old at the time of its sinking

  • @godblessamerica7048
    @godblessamerica7048 Год назад +269

    Rest in peace, Gordon Lightfoot! Your legend will live on in Minnesota and beyond!

  • @Glizzy_Shaman
    @Glizzy_Shaman 2 года назад +87

    2:10 They actually impact a piece of the wreck. Notice the sudden stop, and vibration of the metal closest to the sub.

  • @qrowing
    @qrowing 10 месяцев назад +12

    It haunts him? He ended the interview saying "I really wish I could go back some day" lmfao. Thats journalism for you folks.

  • @ctg6734
    @ctg6734 2 года назад +189

    I can't help but think about what a horrifying experience it must have been, especially when I try to imagine the conditions in the stern.

    • @greyghostscsa394
      @greyghostscsa394 Год назад +2

      I doubt the men had time to be afraid. I think it happened so fast that they were unconscious pretty quickly.

    • @ctg6734
      @ctg6734 Год назад +8

      @@greyghostscsa394 I dunno, I'd say being down below while the ship was being battered by the storm must have been pretty unnerving, plus it would take several seconds for the spaces to completely flood. Enough time to realize you're screwed.

    • @nigelbenn4642
      @nigelbenn4642 Год назад

      Many journeys are similar, the idea you'd know which one was your last is highly unlikely. Same as war battles, no one knows for sure if this one is truly your last.

    • @whipsnade13
      @whipsnade13 Год назад

      @@ctg6734 The change in pressure would have caused the men to black out.

    • @ctg6734
      @ctg6734 Год назад +4

      @@whipsnade13 Well I'd have to imagine there'd still be a few moments of utter horror before that happened.
      Even if it's just a matter of seconds, it's still terrible to think about.

  • @kellybreen5526
    @kellybreen5526 2 года назад +124

    I remember it was lovely weather the day before the ship sank. Then the cold front came in and how quickly everything changed.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 2 года назад +8

      Two volatile air masses were descending on the lake itself with both ship's masters Captain McSorley and Captain Bernie Jesse Cooper acknowledged as they changed course and speed to hug the Canadian shoreline.

  • @Remyfox819
    @Remyfox819 2 года назад +58

    Fun fact: Bob Ballard dove down in Delta when he visited the Lusitania.

  • @johnzeszut3170
    @johnzeszut3170 Год назад +120

    I was 23 when this happened and it was big news here in Chicago. Thank you Gordon Lightfoot for reminding me. I hope that whatever did happen that it was a quick and painless end for 29 good men.

    • @matthewmosier8439
      @matthewmosier8439 Год назад +2

      I would say that the force of the bow slamming into the lake bottom likely killed any men at the bow, almost instantly. It would be like being in a semi truck's trailer in an accident. With no seatbelts to restrain it's very likely that a man would be unconcious after the impact.

    • @talbotd27
      @talbotd27 Год назад +2

      @@matthewmosier8439I don’t understand, how would they still be alive by the time the boat sank to the bottom?

    • @critercat
      @critercat Год назад +1

      @@talbotd27 The ship is 729ft long and it sank in just over 530 feet of water, so it's theorized that the bow hit the bottom while the stern was still afloat.

  • @kirkscobey3031
    @kirkscobey3031 2 года назад +89

    As a 9 year old kid I still can see this in my mind as I watched it pass thru Sarnia Ontario/Port Huron. We have a Polaroid. This was about a week before it sunk

    • @loganbrown6622
      @loganbrown6622 Год назад +2

      That would be so cool to see, so different from all the other ships going under the bridge

    • @Boxman2.0
      @Boxman2.0 Год назад +2

      @Kirk Scobey did you get to hear the horn? There’s no known recordings of the Fitzgerald ship horn; would be interested to know if you think it sounded like the Ryerson.

  • @janetyeoman1544
    @janetyeoman1544 2 года назад +58

    Orillia’s Gordon Lightfoot immortalized the sinking with a classic ballad. 🇨🇦👍

  • @TRKEWEENAW
    @TRKEWEENAW 2 года назад +77

    Tonight, on the southern shore in the UP at Hermit's Cove and elsewhere, Lake Superior is spawning another ghostly storm almost in remembrance of the Fitzgerald. The waves are mounting and with East winds of 20-30 mph and gusts of over 40 mph forecast for tomorrow, the waves will be massive no doubt..

    • @zachboyd4749
      @zachboyd4749 2 года назад +5

      She never gives up her dead, but she also never forgets them….

    • @112chapters3
      @112chapters3 Год назад

      Yarrrr, she blows.

  • @TamaraPHILIPPIANS43
    @TamaraPHILIPPIANS43 Год назад +59

    It's November 10th, 2022 tonight and the 47th sad anniversary of the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Never Forgotten and my deepest condolences for all the families❤️🙏

  • @ParatrooperNinja
    @ParatrooperNinja Год назад +15

    Jesus the editing on this is jarring! And what the hell are those iPhone in the sand shots?! 😂

  • @wangson
    @wangson Год назад +21

    Brilliant piece! I'm always both fascinated and terrified whenever I see these massive ships laying in the bottom of a lake/ocean . It's the incredible silence and darkness at the bottom of these massive bodies of water that gets to me. Thanks for this!

  • @geekhan559
    @geekhan559 2 года назад +15

    This is one if those songs , that if you close your eyes as you listen to it it paints such a vivid picture that is Dream like

  • @MaxLovesNascarOfficial
    @MaxLovesNascarOfficial Год назад +51

    It is now the 47th anniversary. This was a very horrible disaster where everyone in the crew died. This video of the shipwreck looks very cool but very sad. I hope everyone has an awesome day.

  • @rickramos899
    @rickramos899 2 года назад +22

    I still remember it being broadcasted on the news. November 10 1975 is etched on my mind.

  • @leilanirocks
    @leilanirocks Год назад +13

    As we mourn the loss of these 29 men, and Gordon Lightfoot this past week, I think it a good time to acknowledge another truth. Nothing like this tragedy has happened since. I think that a testament to lessons learned and changes made… and also the great notoriety imparted on this tragedy when Gordon Lightfoot wrote, in their honor, the best pure folk song I have ever heard.
    This was not for nothing. These 30 men combined to save so many more lives in the years since on the Great Lakes and I wanted to acknowledge that.

  • @babyloco8199
    @babyloco8199 Год назад +29

    Rest In Peace to All 29 Men that passed away when that ship sank

  • @tomulator
    @tomulator Год назад +26

    It’s time for a major motion picture to be made about her…RESPECTFULLY and REVERENTLY done of course…to pay tribute to the brave souls lost that night and their families and friends left behind without answers.😞💔

    • @demonseed032
      @demonseed032 Год назад +2

      Amen to that.

    • @DistantEarlyWarning
      @DistantEarlyWarning Год назад +3

      I agree. However, I feel like it would go pretty overlooked because the only movies anyone talks about nowadays are Marvel movies. It's a real shame. But to the folks who are fascinated by the wreck, like myself, I think it would be a huge hit.

    • @kentslocum
      @kentslocum 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DistantEarlyWarningThere was that film "The Finest Hours", which was a fascinating Disney film based on a true story about a ship splitting in two, and the crew in the aft section being rescued by the coast guard. But it was a box office flop, so I understand Hollywood's reticence to make a similar film about the Fitzgerald, especially since there is no happy ending.

  • @hansemily5683
    @hansemily5683 2 года назад +44

    I’m so sad that this great ship sadly sank.

  • @contempris2383
    @contempris2383 2 года назад +22

    The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
    Of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee
    The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
    When the skies of November turn gloomy...

    • @MyBlackandRedCZ
      @MyBlackandRedCZ Год назад +5

      With a load of iron ore, 26,000 tons more
      Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
      That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
      When the gales of November came early!

    • @stantaylor3350
      @stantaylor3350 Год назад +4

      The ship was the pride of the American side coming back from some mill in Wisconsin, and as big freighters go she was bigger than most with a crew and a captain well seasoned

    • @AnglicanPolack
      @AnglicanPolack Год назад +3

      Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland. And later that night when the ship's bell rang, could it be the north wind they'd been feeling?

    • @jaxton2207
      @jaxton2207 Год назад +3

      The wind and the wires made a tattletale sound.
      And a wave broke over the railing.
      And every man knew as the captain did too
      T,was the witch of November come stealing.
      The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait.
      When the gales of November came slashing.

  • @rodlamont3736
    @rodlamont3736 6 месяцев назад +2

    Not a day goes by i dont think about the Fitz..! I had just graduated from high school i lost my mom that day and i lost this magnificent ship ... good captain and crew !! God bless you all ! And l will never forget any of you !!❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @steveng1624
    @steveng1624 Год назад +2

    Unbelievable, thanks for sharing !!

  • @theodorepetine7562
    @theodorepetine7562 2 года назад +15

    Gordon Lightfoot paid amage to the crew beautiful song.

  • @DoucheDouchington
    @DoucheDouchington Месяц назад

    I snorkelled down there and it's pretty incredible.

  • @dc8808
    @dc8808 2 года назад +14

    I remember sitting at the dinner table with my folks eating and the evening news for the next day was reporting the sinking. I had just graduated from High School in June....
    Sad sad event for sure. GOD rest the Souls of those men..

  • @australiantruckspotting8883
    @australiantruckspotting8883 Год назад +25

    It’s amazing how well preserved these ships are sitting in fresh water

    • @johnbourlier7883
      @johnbourlier7883 Год назад +10

      It’s because the water is so frigid, that it’s difficult for bacteria to live, so not much to eat at the steel.

  • @supernatural666Junkie
    @supernatural666Junkie Год назад +12

    we spent summers on Lake Erie i remember the Mighty Fitz, we would hear her comes 4-5 miles away, she was always blasting music.
    we would drop everything run to see her, we would wave the men waved back. many times the Cap. McSorley would blow her horn, he knew he made our day. he made us feel like we mattered.
    i was 7 years old the night she went down i refused to go back to the lake almost 5 years, when i finally did the summer wasn't fun.

  • @josephmueller335
    @josephmueller335 2 года назад +17

    We still remember you big fitz

  • @spookedhorse
    @spookedhorse Год назад +25

    Thank you, Gordon Lightfoot, for telling the story to millions and millions more to come.
    Never forget.

  • @PapaBrejj
    @PapaBrejj 2 года назад +51

    'Visit still haunts diver'
    "I really hope I can go back"

    • @wendyrferrell1589
      @wendyrferrell1589 2 года назад +4

      he cant without first getting permission

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 11 месяцев назад

      Welcome to the world of historians and archeology!
      Where we will gladly recklessly endanger ourselves to see some old stuff and take some pictures!
      I cannot explain the urge but in those whom it resides its siren call cannot be resisted

  • @chrisierichards8271
    @chrisierichards8271 Год назад +3

    Wow ! I’ve been watching this story. Sense Aug , on my cell phone , 😢 this just catches my heart 🌷🥀

    • @brianstabile165
      @brianstabile165 11 месяцев назад

      It’s been 40+ years all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives sons and daughters

  • @someone8240
    @someone8240 6 месяцев назад +2

    The gales of november...are no joke
    **shows a random seagull**

  • @drumdad54sdl47
    @drumdad54sdl47 2 года назад +17

    If the families of the lost crewmen have any say, there will be no more dives to the wrecksite. It is where their loved ones repose.

  • @TheArgonaut540
    @TheArgonaut540 Год назад +15

    My question is this: if the Fitz went down so fast that the crew had little time to react, how does a body have a life jacket on it? Could he have been wearing it throughout the storm as a precaution?

    • @theheeter9181
      @theheeter9181 Год назад +17

      Yes, these were all experinced sailors who might have seen it coming and prepared for the worst.

    • @ssansu
      @ssansu Год назад +2

      From what I've read, there was evidence that they knew it was going down.

    • @tmart9084
      @tmart9084 10 месяцев назад +4

      I would think that in a situation like the one they were in, the captain would have instructed "ALL" Hands to put on life jackets.

  • @TheBHAWK89
    @TheBHAWK89 2 года назад +26

    I figured it was sunken deeper than that.
    So that means if the ship was standing upright like a tower then about 200 feet of the ship would be sticking out of the water.

    • @fbm314
      @fbm314 2 года назад +6

      Basically, some people believe when the 3 waves hit the ship, the water level dropped a good bit and allowed the bow of the ship to strike the bottom while technically still being afloat

    • @markg999
      @markg999 2 года назад +3

      @@fbm314 I dont see how that be possible in water so deep.

    • @fbm314
      @fbm314 2 года назад +7

      @@markg999 the water in the spot that it sank was 530 ft deep. the ship was 750 ft or something like that if you stick the ship up on its nose straight it would stick out of the water by over 200 feet

    • @markg999
      @markg999 2 года назад +2

      @@fbm314 Ok I get what your saying better..I thought you meant the ship was all floating on surface when the bow struck bottom.

    • @WeazelJaguar
      @WeazelJaguar 2 года назад +3

      Yes, and I believe the propeller was still turning as it drove into the bottom

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb Год назад +9

    There was also ANOTHER ship named the SS Edmund Fitzgerald that sank. It sunk in 1883 near Ontario Canada in Lake Erie.

  • @stevejohnson1321
    @stevejohnson1321 Год назад +4

    Here in the northeast, my classmates and I mused whether the song was just a well-written fable. We were young, and quite ignorant about lake-effect weather events. I finally informed myself once Wikipedia came along. I'm sorry for those who lost family members.

  • @paulhoffman778
    @paulhoffman778 13 дней назад

    Finally, someone mentioned this. i saw this being reported a few years back. Yea, the line went up by 3 feet, and it was estimated.

  • @Austoner421
    @Austoner421 Год назад +12

    My great grandfather loaded this ship many times in the port of Toledo

  • @70Kenny
    @70Kenny 2 года назад +32

    Diving on the wreck has been forbidden by the Ontario Heritage Act-an extremely broad, often amended law. It was originally passed in 1975 to preserve individual properties deemed “culturally valuable” in the Province of Ontario. I’m not exactly sure how that extends to shipwrecks, but diving the “Edmund Fitzgerald” without special, written permission from the Canadian government is punishable by a fine of $1million Canadian dollars.

    • @tjhookit
      @tjhookit 2 года назад +10

      Have heard speculation that it's forbidden partly because certain parties didn't want anyone to see the red paint on the bottom of the lake, which could prove the bottom out theory.

    • @Gonken88
      @Gonken88 2 года назад +8

      Is that like 500 us dollars?

    • @gibran6190
      @gibran6190 Год назад +1

      @@tjhookit
      Explain?

    • @krisis8736
      @krisis8736 Год назад +6

      It’s been officially named a mass grave. That is why you can’t dive and explore the wreckage.

    • @Gonken88
      @Gonken88 Год назад

      @@krisis8736 Just like Estonia in 1994, and now we know it was a coverup. Convenient, especially since morons who can't think critically buy it.

  • @cq9882
    @cq9882 6 месяцев назад +3

    Still lingers in my mind, this tragedy of tragedies. RIP to All lives cut short and their families. ⚓️🇦🇺🙏

  • @johnstollard6682
    @johnstollard6682 2 года назад +36

    Should be a protected monument to the crew and all maritime losses. Upmost respect, to The family’s and G.L. Tribute to the wives, sons and the daughters.

    • @HoshizakiYoshimasa
      @HoshizakiYoshimasa 2 года назад +4

      Why does this wreck get special treatment? 100 years from now, it should be visited again.

    • @cerberus1166
      @cerberus1166 2 года назад +5

      @@clearskies4325 same here. i dont want people forgetting, or treating me as if i should be forgotten.

    • @brianwolf399
      @brianwolf399 Год назад +2

      It actually is a protected monument because while it is a US ship the Fitzgerald sank on the Canadian side of Lake Superior and they made it a official underwater grave the only thing that was recovered from the wreck was the ships bell and it was with permission of the families so they could have closure and they replaced the ships bell with another bell that the crews name on the bell that now sits with the ship

    • @kasper7574
      @kasper7574 Год назад

      @@brianwolf399 in b4 someone depth charges it 🤣

    • @Ryan-uf4nw
      @Ryan-uf4nw Год назад

      @@brianwolf399 one of my grandparents friends actually recovered the bell, and they had to keep the recovery a secret do to other salvaging companies want to strip it for money.

  • @brucewayneissupermanquinn601
    @brucewayneissupermanquinn601 Год назад +7

    As a Midwesterner (Chicago) , and a history teacher, I’ve studied the EF quite a bit. But I don’t think I could dive it. Too creepy.

    • @johnzeszut3170
      @johnzeszut3170 Год назад +3

      I was about 23 when she went down - I might of seen the Fitz docked when I worked at United States Steel - remember it was big news here in Chicago but being young I forgot about the disaster until Gordon Lightfoot's song. RIP 29 brave men.

    • @northlander4370
      @northlander4370 Год назад +1

      you arent allowed to dive the wreck .

  • @c.l.j.jardell5811
    @c.l.j.jardell5811 2 года назад +9

    Man made. Errors. Pride n greed. Ends in. Unexplained. Sorrow. !!!

  • @GMdieselman
    @GMdieselman 2 года назад +38

    I kinda thought they didn’t want anyone else to disturb the shipwreck since they took the bell back in 1995?

    • @RAV1953
      @RAV1953 2 года назад +9

      You need "official" permission.

    • @cathyaudette1060
      @cathyaudette1060 2 года назад +13

      It is an official gravesite as the Titanic should have been.

    • @brienfoaboutanything9037
      @brienfoaboutanything9037 2 года назад +2

      Thats amazing information about SS Edmund Fitzgerald: ruclips.net/video/NjtHZFB9JcY/видео.html

    • @eat_a_dick_trudeau
      @eat_a_dick_trudeau 2 года назад +16

      @@brienfoaboutanything9037 plugging your own video, (which is just a text to speak narration of Wikipedia information) is _rrrreeeeeeaaaallllllyyyy_ tacky.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 2 года назад +6

      @@cathyaudette1060 Why have Titanic's belongings disintegrate to dust?
      Save what you can and put the objects on display.

  • @jasondrinovsky7962
    @jasondrinovsky7962 Год назад +3

    I know a lot of people feel that wreck should be forever left in the darkness, and i can see why the family members of those lost would feel that way. But if i lost someone, I'd want to know how this happened. Is there anything in those cabins that belonged to the loved ones? I think it should be explored for the people that perished and their families, and for historical information as well.

  • @Torgo1969
    @Torgo1969 Год назад +2

    Someone cutting onions in here...
    My Dad was a submariner in the US Navy in the 1960s, and fortunately he was not aboard the USS Thresher.

  • @Marcus_MG42
    @Marcus_MG42 11 месяцев назад +4

    RIP Gordon Lightfoot (1938 - 2023) | The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

  • @mrsseasea
    @mrsseasea Год назад +3

    Wow, I was around 14 during the reck and we are a fishing family but on the other coast. This reck was talked about for years. Never knew if the deck crew knew what was about to happen or not. But if they seen life vests on a crew member they had time to do that much.

  • @russellmiller6609
    @russellmiller6609 2 года назад +4

    I still love the song about it

    • @Roc-Righteous
      @Roc-Righteous 2 года назад +4

      The ship was the pride on the American side- coming back from some mill in Wisconsin- as the Big freighters go, it was bigger than most-with the crew and the capt well seasoned.. great song indeed.

    • @stevefalletti1885
      @stevefalletti1885 2 года назад +2

      THAT SONG STILL BRINGS CHILLS AND GOOSEBUMPS TO MY BODY, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL TRIBUTE SONG

  • @YourTapeworm
    @YourTapeworm Год назад +1

    "He is traumatized"
    "I really wish I could go back"
    what is this reporting lmao

  • @kzeich
    @kzeich 2 года назад +4

    Does anyone have any theories on how the crew member ended up on the lake bottom several yards forward of the prow?

    • @jurgenkoks9142
      @jurgenkoks9142 2 года назад +7

      propably when the ship hit the bottom it greated a impact wave that shot everything inside into a specific direction and the body just flew out a door, broken window or what not. Usually the easiest answer is the correct one but it could have been something else too of course :D

    • @alaskanyeti907
      @alaskanyeti907 Год назад +3

      Newton's first law of motion: and object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. She came down with a lot of force, hit the bottom, and everything not bolted down went flying/ejected

  • @EdmundIsTheBrand
    @EdmundIsTheBrand Год назад +4

    Incredible finds and creepy as well

  • @SoloSailing77
    @SoloSailing77 4 месяца назад

    It is in Canadian waters, and there will be no diving ever again. It's classified as a grave site, and is off limits for good. This guy was a big reason why. He found the "first" missing crewman. He seemed happy about it. He should have never said that. I would think family members were mortified to hear that. No way the family doesn't wonder if it is their family member. How disrespectful to do to the surviving families. Put that thought into their heads, to think about every year. No wonder the families were so upset! Canada respected the request from the families to let those men rest in peace. It ripped our hearts out, he says. Imagine what his words did to those families HEARTS! They will never forget what he said! Sorry for your loss, if any family member reads this!

  • @Sandwich420
    @Sandwich420 Год назад +8

    Gordon Lightfoot has some words to say about this

  • @Reflectivityy
    @Reflectivityy Год назад +4

    It's still absolutely crazy nobody knows exactly what happened. My guess is some sort of catastrophic failure within the structure. It's the only thing that makes sense considering how fast the ship went down

    • @whipsnade13
      @whipsnade13 Год назад

      They had a list and broken fence rail while still on the surface, so yes, something catastrophic had to have occurred to cause that kind of damage before she sank.

    • @user-qt3si2wo7y
      @user-qt3si2wo7y Год назад

      One of my professors at Michigan Tech would sometimes expound on the Fitz for pretty much the whole hour of class as he was infatuated with the tragedy, he was convinced that she bottomed out on the rocks of six fathom shoal due to a seiche.

    • @dw3403
      @dw3403 Год назад

      Someone posted that they had been painting the water line on the bottom of the ship so they could load more on it. So it would have been overloaded. And it is not hard to believe at all.

    • @brianstabile165
      @brianstabile165 11 месяцев назад

      @@whipsnade13just a metal fence,anyways she hit bottom and couldn’t come up,the ship was large enough that in foggy weather the fog would split the ship and the stern would be concealed,530 feet I believe she rest at

    • @brianstabile165
      @brianstabile165 11 месяцев назад

      @@dw3403what?

  • @jonlittle3738
    @jonlittle3738 2 года назад

    Love that song

  • @evanskris1
    @evanskris1 Год назад

    Is this Brad LaFave!?! Yes ! Well done :)

  • @erock736
    @erock736 Год назад +5

    The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead When the skies of November turn gloomy.

    • @The1nsane1
      @The1nsane1 Год назад +2

      A great song. The hairs on the back of my neck stand up every time I hear it.

  • @jeromebullard6123
    @jeromebullard6123 10 месяцев назад

    530’ deep seems deep, and it is. What’s crazy is that ship is over 700’ long. Stand it on end and it would stick out of the waters surface by 200’

  • @joachimguderian4048
    @joachimguderian4048 2 года назад +3

    Did they ever release the name of which crewman was found ?

    • @dathorndike4908
      @dathorndike4908 2 года назад

      I want to see that footage!

    • @Goldtv33
      @Goldtv33 2 года назад +1

      they did i heard when they made an new edmurd fitzergald ship model they put the name of the crewman on the ship as a memorial

  • @smokingzombiefilms
    @smokingzombiefilms 6 месяцев назад +2

    No one should ever dive on an underwater cemetery. It’s disrespectful. I’ve heard it’s not legal to dive on the Fitz anymore & rightfully so.

  • @wildmikefilms
    @wildmikefilms Год назад +1

    Damn I hate TV dramatization

  • @cameronclark3927
    @cameronclark3927 Год назад +2

    How has Hollywood not made a movie of this

    • @twolak1972
      @twolak1972 Год назад

      Hollywood would f**k it up like every movie they,ve redone, look at titanic, pearl harbor, THEY WOULD MAKE THE WOTEF a f*****g love story and piss off the families who lost loved ones.

  • @MrFargo1001
    @MrFargo1001 Год назад +2

    Most famous last words in Maritime history, " We're holding our own ".

  • @SukkaPunch321
    @SukkaPunch321 Год назад +1

    There’s a video of a coast guard member who was part of the first expedition to the wreck who states the body’s of the crew members on the bridge were found at that time back in the 70s. According to him they didn’t not have any life saving clothing on.

  • @user-lf4ux7dm7g
    @user-lf4ux7dm7g Месяц назад

    After years of investigation, many people are saying that Gordon staged the wreck because he thought his song wasn't getting enough air time.

  • @Olympic-vt4ft
    @Olympic-vt4ft Год назад

    Who was the crew member they found

  • @rosemarymagrino772
    @rosemarymagrino772 Год назад +1

    “Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours”

  • @rochellerooney2452
    @rochellerooney2452 7 месяцев назад +2

    my brother was on the edmund fitzgerald

    • @user-lf4ux7dm7g
      @user-lf4ux7dm7g Месяц назад

      Yes. That's what my brother's neighbor's cousin's sister says, too.

  • @danbasta3677
    @danbasta3677 2 года назад +48

    This will always be a hurtful and mysterious mystery concerning the Big Fitz. I personally have mixed feelings about all of this as while it would be interesting to find out exactly how and what caused her to go down, it's also best to let the ship, and its 29 guys that died on her along with ships master Captain Earnest McSorley to rest peacefully and no longer bother with it anymore. The ship sits in the Canadian area part of Lake Superior and the Canadian government has deemed it off limits to courious onlookers and those who want to continue to dig up information about her, and for her sake and the sake of her crew members who perished on board her, family members, let it alone, they are hurting enough, why hurt them more.

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 года назад +3

      What a shame other wrecks like the Titanic weren't given the same consideration. After all only 333 bodies were ever recovered out of 1496. The ideology is backwards. Why leave one alone but not the other and even if the Titanic is in international waters that shouldn't matter.

    • @Whitpusmc
      @Whitpusmc 2 года назад +12

      I think that given they found red paint on the extension of the point (name escapes me) the ship sailed over and the fact that her design omitted two bulkheads and the Capt said she was a “tender ship” and radioed in that she was taking water she is almost certainly the victim of an unintentional grounding that allowed water onboard faster than she could pump it off and she just went under in one of those 30 ft waves and went down too fast to even get a message out. The mystery is solved for many, though not for all.

    • @TheBHAWK89
      @TheBHAWK89 2 года назад +2

      @@Garsons-oq4lh
      I agree but since the Titanic is at a much greater depth it means only very few people in the entire world is capable of exploring the wreck.

    • @CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533
      @CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533 2 года назад +2

      @@TheBHAWK89. The MIGHTY BISMARCK Is Down Even More Deeper 😃😭. Hence Why He's Not Disappearing 😃. Not Like The TITANIC 😂

    • @razorfett147
      @razorfett147 2 года назад +1

      @@Garsons-oq4lh this shipwreck is under the Canadians jurisdiction. I dont think Canada has any say in what happens to the Titanic site. You're assuming that one ruling body has say over all lost vessel resting sites.

  • @latortugapicante719
    @latortugapicante719 10 месяцев назад +1

    JUST LET THE GUY TALK

  • @jeffguybersen
    @jeffguybersen Год назад

    My dad used to Scuba in Lake Michigan alot with his buddy. Not me though. Im deathly afraid of deep open water lol.

  • @earlfisher1345
    @earlfisher1345 2 года назад +28

    I THOUGHT THAT THE CREW'S FAMILIES HAD REQESTED THAT NO MORE DIVES BE MADE IN RESPECT TO THE CREW MEMBERS LOST.

    • @RW4X4X3006
      @RW4X4X3006 2 года назад +23

      The insurance companies lobbied for and got a diving restriction. The don't want anyone snooping around.

    • @kimberleybusato4511
      @kimberleybusato4511 2 года назад +11

      I really feel that this report is very tone deaf and lacks respect for the families and the Fitz as a gravesite.

    • @georgesawtooth2214
      @georgesawtooth2214 2 года назад +5

      According to the report it was 2004 which was almost 18 years ago. You act like it was yesterday.

    • @williamrogers7974
      @williamrogers7974 2 года назад +33

      So sick of people using 'tone deaf' stfu! He was remembering his trip down in the 90s . How is that report in anyway disrespectful? It happened, he's just saying what happened. Everybody is a whiny baby nowadays, grow up

    • @MsSaudm
      @MsSaudm 2 года назад +13

      insurance co's got that restriction. Hmmm According to eye witnesses and relatives of the crew, the ship was "tender" ( not built well) , overloaded ( because of inept regulators ruling ) , and off course ( because of inaccurate data ) They said she ran aground on a sand bar ( the hill he speaks of in this video ) since she was too low in the water broke in two and sank No rouge wave or crew error ALL BS to cover up liability by the shipping line

  • @georgeadams8230
    @georgeadams8230 Год назад +1

    I wonder if high quality digital photographs would be allowed to map the Fitz, like they did with the Titanic.
    Someone suggested going in and getting the log book, probably never happen

  • @roxsanakourov.4513
    @roxsanakourov.4513 Год назад

    He worked for Channel 5 in Saginaw to Bay City.

  • @Christian_Girl120
    @Christian_Girl120 29 дней назад

    Canada has now forbidden divers to go down to the Edmund Fitzgerald again. Families of some of the lost souls onboard have petitioned to put a halt to visiting, as it's considered a gravesite to many of them. I agree with that decision.

  • @emilleyanderson1909
    @emilleyanderson1909 5 месяцев назад

    a howling wind towering waves and driving snow are inscribed on the Edmund Fitzgerald memorial

  • @MrBonediver
    @MrBonediver 5 месяцев назад

    Don't think you can ever "NOT" dive a wreck anywhere but yes there are laws in place that state you cannot disturb anything!

  • @kendrahordiyenko5498
    @kendrahordiyenko5498 2 года назад +3

    I wonder if they identified the body?

  • @jeffpotipco736
    @jeffpotipco736 Год назад +1

    What is so holy and sacred about Fitzgerald? Plenty of other wrecks with fatalities you can dive .

    • @brianwilson6403
      @brianwilson6403 Год назад

      "What is so holy and sacred about Fitzgerald?"
      Probably because it was the last major loss on the Great Lakes

  • @rhombifer566
    @rhombifer566 Год назад

    very interesting 🤔

  • @robbhahn8897
    @robbhahn8897 Год назад +1

    I'm guessing that after this accident much more attention was paid to how tight the hatch covers were.

  • @WolfMaster656
    @WolfMaster656 7 месяцев назад

    Why is this basically the ONLY ship ever talked about when it cames to the great lakes?... Like, more historical missing ships have been found in the lake or should be found/ talked about, but all people keep going on above is "But what about the Fits!?!? We need to remember the Fits! We need to do more exploring of the Fits!"...

    • @cq9882
      @cq9882 6 месяцев назад

      I live in Australia and your comments are so accurate. I have heard numbers of 30,000 lives lost in the Great Lakes. ⚓️🙏🇦🇺

  • @richsherman3673
    @richsherman3673 Год назад +1

    Greed always is a consequence of ignoring reality when an overloaded ship sails into a wicked storm. Also Fresh Water is not as bouyant as Salt Water. The ship had no chance to stay afloat, in such an overloaded condition with waves torturing the structure. I hope that this catastrophe will avoid a repeat and preserve lives.

  • @karenflanagan1961
    @karenflanagan1961 Год назад +1

    Wow very interesting they found it finally? I think it's further in Lake MICHIGAN then Titanic is in North Atlantic Ocean I think not sure great find.

    • @PhilTraynor
      @PhilTraynor Год назад

      The Edmund Fitzgerald is under 535 feet of water. The Titanic is under about 13,000 feet of water.

    • @happy629
      @happy629 Год назад +3

      It’s in Lake Superior, not Lake Michigan.

  • @sroevukasroevuka
    @sroevukasroevuka 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its a gravesite, no more diving is allowed.

  • @Hofburgergaming5380
    @Hofburgergaming5380 Год назад

    BRO I SAW THE SAME SHIP AT THE BEACH😭

  • @flashy5150
    @flashy5150 2 года назад +15

    So, there is a body down there. Don’t you think it would be nice to bring that body up, identify that person and lay them to rest ? Also, giving the family closure would help.

    • @joshuamccracken1498
      @joshuamccracken1498 2 года назад +21

      The families are the ones who requested that any and all bodies remain with the wreck.

    • @Janice_Kinase
      @Janice_Kinase 2 года назад +12

      @@joshuamccracken1498 There was at least one family member who wanted the bodies recovered. His brother is on that wreck. He's a Vietnam vet, and he and his brother had a pact that if one of them was killed in action, they would find the other and bring him home. He was very upset about this, but he was outvoted by the majority of the other family members. It's unfortunate, because none of those men wanted to end up down there. They all wanted to go home. It's really more of a crash / accident site than a grave.

    • @jonathanlawson4667
      @jonathanlawson4667 Год назад +6

      @@Janice_Kinase you don't know what those men wanted!!! Men who live on the sea and water are a different breed and it's what they love it's a soul connection that you or anyone else will never understand and if the sea takes me' then let her have me because I'm at home.

    • @vgamedude12
      @vgamedude12 Год назад +7

      @@jonathanlawson4667 not for everyone. For some people it's a job like any other or important to them but not where they wish to be at the end.

    • @stantaylor3350
      @stantaylor3350 Год назад

      The majority of the crew would be in the over turned stern section. On the bridge would have been the Captain, navigator and wheelsman.

  • @nutsackmania
    @nutsackmania 5 месяцев назад +1

    Who here would dive hard on this wreck and rustle some bones?

  • @HopperRox_Shaves
    @HopperRox_Shaves Год назад +1

    I'm pretty sure at this time 2023, the wreck is officially a grave sight and per the family wishes there will be no more dives to the Edmund Fitzgerald.

  • @LindaMerchant-pm8vn
    @LindaMerchant-pm8vn 10 месяцев назад

    They say Fitz sank actually in lake Huron off Michigan

  • @ATRTAP
    @ATRTAP 3 месяца назад

    What the cargo ever removed from the Fitzgerald wreck?

  • @WartimeFriction
    @WartimeFriction 7 месяцев назад +2

    What disrespectful editing

  • @TheBHAWK89
    @TheBHAWK89 2 года назад +4

    It's in Canadian waters

    • @johnhurd6243
      @johnhurd6243 2 года назад

      So are you saying that for your own edification?

    • @TheBHAWK89
      @TheBHAWK89 2 года назад +4

      @@johnhurd6243
      No, I'm just saying because some people don't know that and not only is it on the Canadian side of lake superior but they also prohibit anyone from diving to the wreck.

    • @northlander4370
      @northlander4370 Год назад

      He is probably letting Americans know that everything on the planet doesnt automatically belong to them .