That was exactly Edsel's intention. He had one hand built and shipped to his vacation home so he could drive it and flaunt it to his rich friends. It worked and the Zephyr was born.
Packard 120 for both. I always love the styling on any of the zephyrs. They all look really beautiful. Jay, You mentioned overheating issues as one of the cons and I have to agree with you on that. It was quite a few years before Ford finally got the flathead V series engines where they would run cool without having overheating and vapor lock issues. It was a good engine when it was designed as far as the size and what car it was going to put it into. But the design to put the exhaust manifolds running through the block was not one of the great ideas. However, though the Ford V8 were really fast cars and priced decently so people bought them regardless. In the book "Ford in the Thirties" one of the author's main focuses is naturally on the V8 engine. Both it's good points and it's bad points. It's made very clear they had heating issues practically throughout the whole life of the engine. I mean think about it? If Ford was already having cooling problems with the regular V8 8 cylinder flathead engine, adding another four cylinder to that same design is just going to exacerbate the problem even more. To Ford's credit though they eventually did get it figured out and the flathead became a really nice, reliable long running production engine. Even the design team behind the V8 engine admitted that it was rushed into production before it was ready. But back then when Henry Ford told you to do something you did it and if you didn't you weren't around Ford motor company very long. Another great video Jay. Keep em coming!
Good info, thanks. I heard years ago that Mercury engines were different and had far fewer problems. I was told that Lincoln began installing Mercury engines because of their reliability. Any insight on this?
@@mightylonesome9426 I can't say 100% for sure, but since Mercury debuted in 1939 Ford already had 7 years of flathead V8 production under its belt, so they would've been steadily working on the cooling problems. They used bigger water pumps, larger radiators, more cooling vents in the hood to more efficiently direct hot air away from the engine. But the basic fact is that the engine design of the V8 and the placement of it's exhaust running through the block, meant it was inherently going to overheat. So any Ford product that had the flathead V8 engine installed in it regardless of the marquee name was going to suffer overheating problems. Ford was able to eventually get the flathead V8 to be better but even flathead v8s during the '50s would sometimes overheat and vapor lock, especially during the summer. My older brother owned a 51 Ford and we lived in Arizona at the time. I can remember going places with him in that car where we would often have to stop because the engine was overheating or suffering from vapor lock. We'd just have a little roadside picnic while waiting for everything to cool down before heading on your way again. Of course that was in the early '60s so he was essentially driving a 10-year-old car at the time. Over time the buildup of rust, scale, and other crud in the coolant passages inside the block would just contribute to the problem. It's pretty easy to see that Ford realize that the flathead V8 had outlived It's usefulness and it that if they didn't come out with something better. They were in trouble. So enter the Ford Y block. A pretty good engine and miles above the flathead V8, but the Y block was not without its share of issues either.
@Carl Montney There's a lot to be learned from guys like you, Carl. I could spend hours listening to you talk about cars. I wouldn't have a tremendous amount of input, but like I said I'd be more than happy to listen. Thank you, and best of luck.
There was one of these regularly on the road in Dallas in the 80s. The license plate read "MISS BOOP," referring to Betty Boop, I assume. It was always a treat to glimpse her purring the boulevards of the historic district back in the day. Haven't seen her in years. An absolute beauty, gone but not forgotten.
Yeah it was great until they changed it because people started breaking off hood ornament thinking that’s the way they open the hood when they changed out the hood opened
Hey Jay, Keep being Loud & Enthusiastic ! Your Passion is Contagious Your an artist yourself with your talented woodworking Don’t let these Grouches Change you!
Thank you so much for all of that, I’m not giving in to the grumpy people, should have seen the comments I got in the very beginning.. just pelted with nasty comments it’s leveled out I mean most comments are very positive.
l lived in Beijing for 7 years, and l would always run over to Shanghai every few months. There l would visit the Shanghai Automotive Museum, surprisingly good and fresh, with a uniquely designed spiral display of the cars with new additions placed every few months. One that is permanently displayed is a black 1939 Lincoln Zephyr two door teardrop coupe, one of my favorites in the collection. lt is nice to see the car as taken of POV of the driver. Enjoyed it immensely.
Wow Jay! This looks like they developed this car with a wind tunnel. I like the aerodynamic styling, much better than the Chrysler Airflow. It's funny that Ford did this again years later when they brought out the Taurus, with it's radical "new" styling!
Hey Jay, I love Lincolns & this Zephyr is spectacular!!! It looks like it's a work in progress with some of the interior components missing but what a gorgeous car!!! Thanks for sharing another exciting video!!! 👍👍🙂
Based on looks only and not reliability, I would go with the Zephyr on both counts. I really like the look. That hood ornament is great, especially since it is used to open the hood. But it has a 1950s look to it which is intriguing. I wonder what the history is of this particular car? It's almost as if whoever owned it either passed away before he or she completed the restoration or just decided to move onto another project. Still, even incomplete it's still a beauty.
The hood ornament opening the hood was a great idea but sometime they switched it and people didn’t know that they switched it and they would break them off trying to open certain hoods.. The zephyr was a great looking car just wish they had a better power plant
The maroon Zephyr is a celebration of the technological advancements that occurred throughout the 30's all bundled into one tear shaped, awesomely beautiful car.
I would have to go with the Zephyr in both the comparisons. I always liked the Zephyr name for a car. Glad you brought it forth even though it wasn't finished. Stunning design.
It was a really nice looking car I did not want to miss the opportunity to feature it because those cars will come up for sale very often we’re going to hit it again I definitely want to cover the coupe sedan as well as the four-door convertible.. as well as other body styles like four-door sedan would be really cool as well Glad you dig great choices
Hi Jay! Gotta go with the Packards here. Gotta say the styling on ALL the Lincoln Zephyrs is much superior to anything of that period, but the Packards just run a lot better. YEARS ago I read an article where someone had restored a Lincoln Continental, and the mechanic said that a lot of the problem with those V-12 engines was caused by them having TERRIBLE crankcase ventilation. The Continental in the article had a PCV system retrofitted to it, and it is said it reduces a lot of the overheating problems.
I love the coupe style of the 39 which makes me think of Humphrey Bogart movies like THE BIG SLEEP. I can just imagine a private eye climbing out of the Zephyr with a trench coat and a cigarette dangling from his mouth. The Zephyr with the V-12 was the iconic pocket luxury car of the 30s competing with the Cord, Lasalle and the smaller Packard… all worthy rides.
A 1937 Lincoln Zephyr was used in the Green Hornet Serial which was known as the Black Beauty. I remember that in the serial the car was supposed to be able to up to 200 mph. You can watch both of the two GH serials on RUclips if you wanna see the Black Beauty in action.
Re the 38, 39 dash's, I like both for different reasons but I settled on the "Jungle Red" 38. For WYR, the 39 two door and 4 door too. I think I love Deco and teardrop styling a lot! The Chicken Soup monologue was mighty fine. 😂😂
Great choices I’m glad you like the ending I almost put a different ending in I think there’s going to be a cool story at the end of Friday’s episode which is going to be the evolution of the jeep or where did the cheap come from.. Super cool history of the Jeep I’m currently writing a script for it.. American bantam got screwed. And not the good way...
The Packard has a more professional formal work that the Lincoln doesn’t have.. Not to see the Lincoln looks bad the Lincoln box absolutely phenomenal it just doesn’t share the same presence the Packard gives off
Slightly newer model than the Green Hornet's Black Beauty from the 1940 serial series. Wonderful car. I can just imagine Keye Luke in his black mask, speeding through the California hills. :)
I would prefer the '39 dash to the '37's. And I would go for the LaSalle in both iterations. That triangular frame which held the spare wheel and tire would rotate backwards out of the trunk to give access to the luggage space. The Zephyr V12 was an ingenious design, which used existing parts from the V8 to a great extent, but was too close to the edge. It had a 75-degree V, rather than a 60-degree one. This allowed space for the intake manifolding. Like the V8, it tended to overheat--the exhausts ran through the block to the outside, getting the water nice and warm, and the radiator was undersized. At least parts are available.
The low horizontally themed1938 horizontal grille was a landmark design and greatly influenced front end styling from that point on - vertical chrome prow was out. One consequence was the by 1940 most makes had adopted the theme, and Packard looked distinctly old fashioned. The 41 Cadillac cemented the trend. The Zephyr (along with the Airflow) was peak Streamline Moderne, including the interiors. Bob Gregorie did most of the Ford styling in those days with an assist from Edsel. The design staff was rediculously small compared to GM, and yet they consistently turned out good products. Ford was vetoing engineering updates left and right (famously holding out on hydraulic brakes until 39 and IFS until he was dead) but he generally let Edsel handle styling. (Edsel had a reputation as patron of the arts; he also commissioned the Diego Rivera murals - depicting Ford factory - at the DIA which can still be seen today; and which caused scandal at the time) WYR: 1) 39 LaSalle 2) 39 120 - go with the formal look for the sedan :)
2:00 Back in about 1985(?) the company I worked for came out with an IBM PC, two floppies, 360K memory, and a modem: to send and fetch stories for magazine articles. It was a California Company, and they christened/marketed the "Zephyr" system, a "warm wind from the west" as the boss said. Ah, back to my youth ... PS: That's back when such a computer was about $4,000 ... that'd be like YOU, spending $11,620.25 in 2023. (and, it was a _big_ success)
Wow thank you so much for sharing that that’s one of my favorite things to do is to show how much things were in relationship to how much they actually are because when people see the price tag like oh man that was cheap I’ll totally buy that but then whenever it’s equated it’s not so cheap
What beautiful car. It reminded me of a Bugatti with its aerodynamic streamlining. The war was starting to heat up and technology became crucial to maintain the upper edge. It’s a shame the power plant was so tame but that was typical of Ford. His reasoning was bigger profits by reducing production costs. I would take the Zephyr every time just for the aesthetics but I would stick an LS inside and disk brakes all round. That dash needs cleaning up and chrome work on the shifter and peddles wouldn’t go awry. Not sure what the interior should be.
This car is huge in person it’s like looking at a bigger stretched 1940s Ford.. which isn’t a bad thing. It has delahaye vibes to me.. but can see were your coming from with Bugatti =)
I own the 2014 LINCOLN MKZ. I assume the letter Z represents the name ZEPHYR. No real comparison to the 1938, 39 car shown in your display but my MKZ is my first LINCOLN car and I love it with it's 10,346 miles on it. A great automobile. Thanks for your presentation. I'm a FORD person since 1950.
Yo Jay, the classic Lincoln Zephyr V-12. The only car that looks like its very own cartoon caricature of itself. As used by Warner Bros. and Roger Rabbit. Any vehicle that prevents your neighbours from parking on the same block will be memorable. The two seat version looking purposeful as a 9 ton WWII fighter, with a cockpit appended to the structure, almost as an afterthought. Otherwise, it would only have the utility of a sculpture. IN the world of Warner Bros. cartoons, the zephyr was the definitive car of choice by the wolf, wearing a zoot suit, and his eyes shooting out if his head, at the sight of a pretty lady fox. I grew up with the Lincoln Zephyr V-12 along with my mother's milk, some cultural icons travel so independently that they are alive beyond, and without the knowledge of their creators. If only it could be made 2 metres longer, we can but dream.
The meat thermometer fascia clock doesn't look OEM. Clearly, some of the cars are works in progress, so I truly appreciate you not hesitating to reveal them in the bare. In some ways so much more is revealed, such as door construction, and also what an amazingly trusting time, compared to the present. For who today would choose to leave the hood unlocked on their expensive automobile, with the threat of theft of parts, and also barbarous vandalism for its own sake? These are surely such different times than even 30 years ago (which is not that long) We are living through the times bequeathed to us under 'Murphies law' when so much is suddenly going wrong?
I agree with everything that you said A lot of people won’t know how to open the hoods on these old cars because they’re going to go for the hood release on the inside the moment that they see the stick shift they’re gonna be all heck no I’m not gonna drive thats the security system especially if you have a car that doesn’t have a synchromesh transmission the number they put it in first gear and try to go to second they’re not gonna wanna do that that’s too much work.. lol me on the other hand I love a different driving experience =)
The Lincoln is beautiful but I would take the LaSalle for reliability. Thanks for the review on this beautiful car and, what looks like an excellent restoration. 👍
.....thanks for another vid, it's great.....while all the '39's listed are beautiful collector vehicles, both "39 Lincolns look so much more modern, and attractive, imo......
What a beautiful car. Narrative got a bit confusing for me, but I’m getting old. You referred to _this dash_ while you’re showing two unlabeled dashes. Other than my confusion, great job!
Your the only one that caught that, it was totally coincidence that I did it for that my voice was pretty shot by that point I was wondering if it would even sound good.. lol this and the stutz were that last two cars I shot 20 cars in eight hours =)
You have mentioned the Resto Mod concept in the past. This car is absolutely gorgeous. I can think of two problems The under powered and trouble prone engine. Also the brakes might still be mechanical rather than hydraulic. It should be possible to replace the engine with a later model Ford V-8. I imagine that the V-12 engine is heavy. So a big Block engine might be preferable. It should be possible to upgrade the brakes to hydraulic. Ideally power front disk brakes could be installed. I would retain the original stick shift transmission. I suppose that the rear end is intended for 50 mph highway speeds. It would need to be modified so that the car can cruise on modern freeways. I suppose that my list of improvements would destroy the cars originality. Yet it would be very functional on the roads of today.
Hi Justin, good video, good car! The narrow running boards was due to the fact the the car industry was phasing out running boards at that time, especially on luxury cars to be able to make more hip and shoulder room inside the car and make more room when three people where seated in one seat. You know and I know that the Zephyr line of Lincoln was kind of an lower priced Lincoln, I think the Zephyr(s) where the best looking of the Lincoln line-up. From what I have read on the internet, the Lincoln Zephyr(s) are unit built construction and not body on-frame. The car industry news media states that the 1956-1957 Lincoln Continental Mark II was Fords first high-end personal luxury car, but they forget about the Lincoln Zephyr three window coupe (the car that you profiled). If the Lincoln Zephyr three window coupe, is not a high-end personal luxury car, I do not know what is. I think the 1956-1957 Lincoln Continental Mark II(s) where (hand built) and cost too much to sell very many. Please reply. Dave...
Thank you Justin! I think you see where I am coming from. Most luxury cars back then where not very streamlined, and most where four door. Thank you! Dave...
This is a beautiful design, with a lot of interesting details, I would prefer it in the Coupe Sedan , or convertible though. In the first scenario, I would rather have the LaSalle first, the Packard second. In the 4 door, it would be the Packard first, the LaSalle second, either in both scenarios really! 😎 Video
Not a detail too few, not a detail too many. Distinctive decades before cookie cutter automotive style ruled the lot. Not a box of electricity to propel this machine down the road just 12 velvety cylinders full of grace and elegance.
My preferred car from both scenarios would be the Lincoln Zephyr. Although I like the look of the 2 door, I would probably choose the 4 door because it has more interior room, besides I like the look of Suicide doors. The Zephyr name has been used on makes other than Lincoln, coincidently on other Ford products over the years. In the late 50s and early 60s there was a British Ford called Zephyr. It shared its sheet metal with Consol and Zodiac. In 1978 the Mercury Zephyr was introduced, and It was similar to the Fairmont. Lincoln used the Zephyr name once more in either 06 or 07, but only for one year. I did think the Zephyr name was over used.
Yeah they really went all in on the Zephyr name he used it over in Europe a lot.. Great choices Thank you so much for sharing all of that added information as well as insight
4:30 I'm having a hard time understanding, in the 1938, where is the gear shift coming from? It doesn't seem to be coming from the transmission tunnel.
I love the Zephyr grill and the Chrysler is a beauty, but today is Zephyr day. Packard 4dr looks dated and the LaSale has a nice style but doesn’t have integrated head lights. So for me it’s between Chrysler and Zephyr. I like the rake of Zephyr better, so that is my choice. This was such time of styling transitions. I know I picked the Airflow on an earlier video, but it’s design was so far ahead of it’s time. However if I wanted to make a statement about who I was in the community I would be driving a Packard, a car for a man.
Awesome =) If given the chance to choose between 37 airflow or 37 120 both sedans. Chrysler. Or. Packard Not sure which I’d buy if both could be had at the same price I’d lean toward the airflow because it’s different
This one wasn’t 💯 complete but didn’t want to miss the opportunity to feature this car =) I agree for such a massive car space wasn’t used to the best of their ability
Zephyr, Packard. I almost bought a '37 Zephyr as a teen in the 1970s, but was warned about the unreliable engine and the difficulty of finding someone who could pour babbits for the engine bearings, so I was scared off.
I was always a big fan of the 58 Edsel I had a chance to buy one when I was 21 I decided against it because it was kind of like you know I didn’t want to meet my hero kind of thing.. I didn’t think I had enough money to have that car at that point in time in my life I bought a 67 mustang instead.. early 60s Mustang is the perfect gateway Classic Car the perfect car to get into the Classic Car hobby because they are really cheap or at least when I had mine parts were really reasonable you could get every single engine part for that car as well as just about every single part is made for the car with a few exceptions..
I wonder how that roof would look with an opera window in it? No door panels or floor carpets...are they working on the car? No air cleaner either. Cool how you unlock the hood though. Who would have thought it was a rod with a bar that swings out of the way? Underpowered with a V12 in there? That's hard to imagine!
Haha I can’t hit the notes like I used to be able to I used to sing Black dog light karaoke night are used to be able to hit all of the notes go note to note with Robert Plant no problem at all I can’t do it anymore kinda of sucks.. maybe one day I’ll do my Bon Scott impression if I can get it to where it’s good again. Are used to seeing every day but I don’t anymore so my voice doesn’t have the range it used to. Music and cars go together so well and a lot of times if you don’t have a radio you sing in the car right.. or at least I do lol
My stuck up friend had an uncompleted zephyr. He sold it. Because couldn't find a proper engine for it. Too expensive for me. New owner put a V8 flathead in it.
Such a stunningly beautiful car despite a few short comings. My favorite American car of all time was the 1940 Ford, but I have to say it has been eclipsed by this specimen! I would just hate to be the mechanic who has to set the valve lash on "12" cylinders!
This car looked like a stretched 1940 Ford that’s the best way I could really describe it is that’s what this car was it’s just a massive version of it.. when you see the V 12 for the first time it looks like a stretched Ford flathead V-8
I know I'm being picky; you mention that the next video will be at whatever time Easter Standard Time, but as of the 2nd Sunday in March we are in Eastern Daylight Time. We don't return to Standard Time until the 1st Sunday of November.
I always thought it was just called eastern standard time was the time zone that I was in.. lol I could be wrong I’ve said other things wrong like I always thought it was V line (the way birds fly) come to find out years later that it was B line.. thank you for that correction eastern time is what I’ll say
Thank you they got the dates mixed up it’s not the first time it probably won’t be the last either I’m going to change it on the title and make a note of it in the description thank you so much for the correction
Museum car is not a '39. Grill bars should be vertical, not horizontal, front bumper should be split ahead of radiator, & dash is wrong. Maybe a '38 or maybe pieced together from different model years.
The more I was looking at it while putting this together I was thinking it was a 38 it’s quite possibly that it’s just Mark the wrong year because I looked at the 39 - and it’s different than the 38 - this one has a 38 - unless they change - is mid year which I wasn’t sure about.. Thank you so much for pointing out all of those differences =)
So... Basically. You're identifying as one of them Yankees? Lol Beautiful car... One wonders why the owner decided to consign this car without a driver's side door panel? Likely they're next to possible to locate? Love the color of the car, and dash. As well as the grouping of literally everything in the center
It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been called a Yankee I’m actually not that loud or rowdy as a person I’m more or less keep to myself. I guess the guy just had a problem with my delivery I guess I’ll have to work on it I didn’t think that it needed improved because it worked maybe I’ll try to figure out a different way different way to deliver
I agree we need to do more Packards on here I’ve been working trust me they’re just not easy to find I really wanna cover a Packard twinsix as well as a 12 on the channel this year
I’m not sure what model Mercedes that is it was a 1955 Mercedes I believe I didn’t have time to do it I ran out of time I was going to possibly do it I’m not a huge Mercedes-Benz fan but I’ll feature them on the channel.. when given the chance
@@What.its.like. Jay, that Mercedes that I'm referring to is a pretty late model one, of maybe 5 yrs ago. Do> check out the VW10cc, I'm pretty sure that 's the name of the model.
There is only I think 3 things that I would do to change this car one I would lower it with air rights suspension. I would make it standard on the floor instead of on the column. If it was standard and I would put suicide doors on it. That would be it, and on the skirts, I would do memory of my father on one side and I would do memory of my mother on the other side on the skirts. And I would drive this car to the cemetery to see my mother and father. Every Sunday like I do already. I go there and have coffee with them. If it is bad weather, I would take my other vehicle but nice days every Sunday. I would take it. I go there for their birthdays for Father's Day for Mother's Day for Mother's Day. In other holit is but that would be my cemetery car knowing that I have my mother and father with me and i'm going to see them beautiful beautiful car
Sweet =) I do those to see what cars you guys are into sounds to me like we need to do more Packards this year I’ve been looking they’re just hard to find.. I really wanna cover at 12 this year or twin six
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Be sure to tune in Friday for discussion episode Friday the evolution of the jeep.. =)
I'm 67, so it was easy for me.
What a beautiful car. Definitely the single man’s sled back in the day. You would be the envy of the block if you owned this beauty.
Great shape it’s like a stretched 1940 ford
That was exactly Edsel's intention. He had one hand built and shipped to his vacation home so he could drive it and flaunt it to his rich friends. It worked and the Zephyr was born.
The Lincoln is the way to go. It's looks way cooler than the other 3. And I am never biased....
=) sweet choices
Packard 120 for both.
I always love the styling on any of the zephyrs. They all look really beautiful.
Jay, You mentioned overheating issues as one of the cons and I have to agree with you on that.
It was quite a few years before Ford finally got the flathead V series engines where they would run cool without having overheating and vapor lock issues.
It was a good engine when it was designed as far as the size and what car it was going to put it into. But the design to put the exhaust manifolds running through the block was not one of the great ideas.
However, though the Ford V8 were really fast cars and priced decently so people bought them regardless.
In the book "Ford in the Thirties" one of the author's main focuses is naturally on the V8 engine. Both it's good points and it's bad points. It's made very clear they had heating issues practically throughout the whole life of the engine.
I mean think about it? If Ford was already having cooling problems with the regular V8 8 cylinder flathead engine, adding another four cylinder to that same design is just going to exacerbate the problem even more. To Ford's credit though they eventually did get it figured out and the flathead became a really nice, reliable long running production engine.
Even the design team behind the V8 engine admitted that it was rushed into production before it was ready. But back then when Henry Ford told you to do something you did it and if you didn't you weren't around Ford motor company very long.
Another great video Jay. Keep em coming!
Thank you so much for sharing all that information as well as insight =) really appreciate that
It’s hard to pass up the Packard they are so nice
Good info, thanks.
I heard years ago that Mercury engines were different and had far fewer problems. I was told that Lincoln began installing Mercury engines because of their reliability. Any insight on this?
@@mightylonesome9426 I can't say 100% for sure, but since Mercury debuted in 1939 Ford already had 7 years of flathead V8 production under its belt, so they would've been steadily working on the cooling problems.
They used bigger water pumps, larger radiators, more cooling vents in the hood to more efficiently direct hot air away from the engine.
But the basic fact is that the engine design of the V8 and the placement of it's exhaust running through the block, meant it was inherently going to overheat. So any Ford product that had the flathead V8 engine installed in it regardless of the marquee name was going to suffer overheating problems.
Ford was able to eventually get the flathead V8 to be better but even flathead v8s during the '50s would sometimes overheat and vapor lock, especially during the summer.
My older brother owned a 51 Ford and we lived in Arizona at the time. I can remember going places with him in that car where we would often have to stop because the engine was overheating or suffering from vapor lock. We'd just have a little roadside picnic while waiting for everything to cool down before heading on your way again. Of course that was in the early '60s so he was essentially driving a 10-year-old car at the time.
Over time the buildup of rust, scale, and other crud in the coolant passages inside the block would just contribute to the problem.
It's pretty easy to see that Ford realize that the flathead V8 had outlived It's usefulness and it that if they didn't come out with something better. They were in trouble. So enter the Ford Y block. A pretty good engine and miles above the flathead V8, but the Y block was not without its share of issues either.
@Carl Montney
There's a lot to be learned from guys like you, Carl. I could spend hours listening to you talk about cars. I wouldn't have a tremendous amount of input, but like I said I'd be more than happy to listen.
Thank you, and best of luck.
There was one of these regularly on the road in Dallas in the 80s. The license plate read "MISS BOOP," referring to Betty Boop, I assume. It was always a treat to glimpse her purring the boulevards of the historic district back in the day. Haven't seen her in years. An absolute beauty, gone but not forgotten.
That’s awesome thank you so much for sharing that awesome story =) what a great memory of a great car
10:45 Mega cool hood release! Using the hood ornament is an interesting development.
Yeah it was great until they changed it because people started breaking off hood ornament thinking that’s the way they open the hood when they changed out the hood opened
Hey Jay,
Keep being Loud & Enthusiastic !
Your Passion is Contagious
Your an artist yourself with your talented woodworking
Don’t let these Grouches Change you!
Thank you so much for all of that, I’m not giving in to the grumpy people, should have seen the comments I got in the very beginning.. just pelted with nasty comments it’s leveled out I mean most comments are very positive.
l lived in Beijing for 7 years, and l would always run over to Shanghai every few months. There l would visit the Shanghai Automotive Museum, surprisingly good and fresh, with a uniquely designed spiral display of the cars with new additions placed every few months. One that is permanently displayed is a black 1939 Lincoln Zephyr two door teardrop coupe, one of my favorites in the collection. lt is nice to see the car as taken of POV of the driver. Enjoyed it immensely.
That’s awesome this car is black would look absolutely stellar thank you for sharing your memories with the car =)
Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin. Not the highlighted song, but the reference you made when you opened the hood. Nice!
Yeah you like that I might put that in more often if the engine sits way down inside
This car is absolutely beautiful.
It was gorgeous
Wow Jay! This looks like they developed this car with a wind tunnel. I like the aerodynamic styling, much better than the Chrysler Airflow. It's funny that Ford did this again years later when they brought out the Taurus, with it's radical "new" styling!
the 1938 model of the Lincoln Zephyr is simply the most beautiful of all the other Zephyrs
I like the 1937.
Hey Jay, I love Lincolns & this Zephyr is spectacular!!! It looks like it's a work in progress with some of the interior components missing but what a gorgeous car!!! Thanks for sharing another exciting video!!! 👍👍🙂
Yeah it was too good to pass up =) glad you dig this episode =) evolution of the jeep is coming Friday
I can't get past remembering the Fox body "Squaremont" Zephyr by Mercury owned by a teacher that lived in my neighborhood in 1980~
Based on looks only and not reliability, I would go with the Zephyr on both counts. I really like the look.
That hood ornament is great, especially since it is used to open the hood. But it has a 1950s look to it which is intriguing.
I wonder what the history is of this particular car? It's almost as if whoever owned it either passed away before he or she completed the restoration or just decided to move onto another project. Still, even incomplete it's still a beauty.
The hood ornament opening the hood was a great idea but sometime they switched it and people didn’t know that they switched it and they would break them off trying to open certain hoods..
The zephyr was a great looking car just wish they had a better power plant
Overheating issues were the reason why Ford put on a second water pump in the V8 & V12.
The maroon Zephyr is a celebration of the technological advancements that occurred throughout the 30's all bundled into one tear shaped, awesomely beautiful car.
This Car looked million times better in person. It’s a huge car
Another great episode, Jay!
Glad you dig this episode =)
I would have to go with the Zephyr in both the comparisons. I always liked the Zephyr name for a car. Glad you brought it forth even though it wasn't finished. Stunning design.
It was a really nice looking car I did not want to miss the opportunity to feature it because those cars will come up for sale very often we’re going to hit it again I definitely want to cover the coupe sedan as well as the four-door convertible.. as well as other body styles like four-door sedan would be really cool as well
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Thanks Jay for an amazing 1939 Lincoln zephyr video. 🙂
Thank you so much for coming out and watching it =)
one of my favourite cars of all time
Hi Jay! Gotta go with the Packards here. Gotta say the styling on ALL the Lincoln Zephyrs is much superior to anything of that period, but the Packards just run a lot better. YEARS ago I read an article where someone had restored a Lincoln Continental, and the mechanic said that a lot of the problem with those V-12 engines was caused by them having TERRIBLE crankcase ventilation. The Continental in the article had a PCV system retrofitted to it, and it is said it reduces a lot of the overheating problems.
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Thank you so much for sharing all the information and added insight =)
Well people usually swap the Lincoln V12 for any Ford V8 they want.
Beautiful car .
The Zephyr is so beautiful sleek and rare. This car looks like its moving standing still.
Not only that, but it’s a pretty big car as well. It’s huge in person.
I love these old cars. One thing that jumps out looking at the front seat ergonomics, even rich people were not fat in 1938
Yeah we definitely grew both in the height waist and width
The 1937 Zephyr coupe is the finest example of this model...
I agree
I love the coupe style of the 39 which makes me think of Humphrey Bogart movies like THE BIG SLEEP. I can just imagine a private eye climbing out of the Zephyr with a trench coat and a cigarette dangling from his mouth. The Zephyr with the V-12 was the iconic pocket luxury car of the 30s competing with the Cord, Lasalle and the smaller Packard… all worthy rides.
A 1937 Lincoln Zephyr was used in the Green Hornet Serial which was known as the Black Beauty. I remember that in the serial the car was supposed to be able to up to 200 mph. You can watch both of the two GH serials on RUclips if you wanna see the Black Beauty in action.
Re the 38, 39 dash's, I like both for different reasons but I settled on the "Jungle Red" 38.
For WYR, the 39 two door and 4 door too.
I think I love Deco and teardrop styling a lot!
The Chicken Soup monologue was mighty fine. 😂😂
Great choices I’m glad you like the ending I almost put a different ending in I think there’s going to be a cool story at the end of Friday’s episode which is going to be the evolution of the jeep or where did the cheap come from.. Super cool history of the Jeep I’m currently writing a script for it..
American bantam got screwed. And not the good way...
@@What.its.like.
Yes, Jeep have such a history of makers and styles.
Thanks J.
The Zephyr is a beautiful car. I do like the Packards slightly more - 2 or 4 door.
The Packard has a more professional formal work that the Lincoln doesn’t have..
Not to see the Lincoln looks bad the Lincoln box absolutely phenomenal it just doesn’t share the same presence the Packard gives off
Slightly newer model than the Green Hornet's Black Beauty from the 1940 serial series.
Wonderful car. I can just imagine Keye Luke in his black mask, speeding through the California hills. :)
Awesome car one of my favorites 39 Lincoln 39 Packard
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I would prefer the '39 dash to the '37's. And I would go for the LaSalle in both iterations. That triangular frame which held the spare wheel and tire would rotate backwards out of the trunk to give access to the luggage space. The Zephyr V12 was an ingenious design, which used existing parts from the V8 to a great extent, but was too close to the edge. It had a 75-degree V, rather than a 60-degree one. This allowed space for the intake manifolding. Like the V8, it tended to overheat--the exhausts ran through the block to the outside, getting the water nice and warm, and the radiator was undersized. At least parts are available.
Thank you so much for sharing that information =)
I enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing the details 😊👋🐿
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The low horizontally themed1938 horizontal grille was a landmark design and greatly influenced front end styling from that point on - vertical chrome prow was out. One consequence was the by 1940 most makes had adopted the theme, and Packard looked distinctly old fashioned. The 41 Cadillac cemented the trend. The Zephyr (along with the Airflow) was peak Streamline Moderne, including the interiors. Bob Gregorie did most of the Ford styling in those days with an assist from Edsel. The design staff was rediculously small compared to GM, and yet they consistently turned out good products. Ford was vetoing engineering updates left and right (famously holding out on hydraulic brakes until 39 and IFS until he was dead) but he generally let Edsel handle styling. (Edsel had a reputation as patron of the arts; he also commissioned the Diego Rivera murals - depicting Ford factory - at the DIA which can still be seen today; and which caused scandal at the time)
WYR: 1) 39 LaSalle 2) 39 120 - go with the formal look for the sedan :)
Thank you so much for the insight and information I guess this was a 38 not a 39
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Packard both choices. Great Game! NICE show case!
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2:00 Back in about 1985(?) the company I worked for came out with an IBM PC, two floppies, 360K memory, and a modem: to send and fetch stories for magazine articles. It was a California Company, and they christened/marketed the "Zephyr" system, a "warm wind from the west" as the boss said.
Ah, back to my youth ... PS: That's back when such a computer was about $4,000 ... that'd be like YOU, spending $11,620.25 in 2023. (and, it was a _big_ success)
Wow thank you so much for sharing that that’s one of my favorite things to do is to show how much things were in relationship to how much they actually are because when people see the price tag like oh man that was cheap I’ll totally buy that but then whenever it’s equated it’s not so cheap
gracias por su trabajo 🎥👍
11:06 waay down in side , good one jay
Haha yeah
I found the similarity between the speedometer pod on this Lincoln and the 49 Ford interesting.
1938, to me, is much more beautiful!🏅
I love it
It’s like a stretched 40 ford, it is nice but huge lol
What beautiful car. It reminded me of a Bugatti with its aerodynamic streamlining. The war was starting to heat up and technology became crucial to maintain the upper edge. It’s a shame the power plant was so tame but that was typical of Ford. His reasoning was bigger profits by reducing production costs. I would take the Zephyr every time just for the aesthetics but I would stick an LS inside and disk brakes all round. That dash needs cleaning up and chrome work on the shifter and peddles wouldn’t go awry. Not sure what the interior should be.
This car is huge in person it’s like looking at a bigger stretched 1940s Ford.. which isn’t a bad thing. It has delahaye vibes to me.. but can see were your coming from with Bugatti =)
Love the car, love the Led Zeppelin reference.
I own the 2014 LINCOLN MKZ. I assume the letter Z represents the name ZEPHYR. No real comparison to the 1938, 39 car shown in your display but my MKZ is my first LINCOLN car and I love it with it's 10,346 miles on it. A great automobile. Thanks for your presentation. I'm a FORD person since 1950.
Awesome, glad you dig this episode =)
What engine is in your Mkz?
Yo Jay, the classic Lincoln Zephyr V-12. The only car that looks like its very own cartoon caricature of itself. As used by Warner Bros. and Roger Rabbit. Any vehicle that prevents your neighbours from parking on the same block will be memorable.
The two seat version looking purposeful as a 9 ton WWII fighter, with a cockpit appended to the structure, almost as an afterthought. Otherwise, it would only have the utility of a sculpture. IN the world of Warner Bros. cartoons, the zephyr was the definitive car of choice by the wolf, wearing a zoot suit, and his eyes shooting out if his head, at the sight of a pretty lady fox. I grew up with the Lincoln Zephyr V-12 along with my mother's milk, some cultural icons travel so independently that they are alive beyond, and without the knowledge of their creators. If only it could be made 2 metres longer, we can but dream.
Awesome information and very true about it looking like an automotive caricature.
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That is a beautiful car.
Although the Zephyrr you're featuring may not be complete, it is an excellent, Concourses level restoration.
I did not wanna miss the opportunity to show this car they don’t come out very often =)
The meat thermometer fascia clock doesn't look OEM. Clearly, some of the cars are works in progress, so I truly appreciate you not hesitating to reveal them in the bare. In some ways so much more is revealed, such as door construction, and also what an amazingly trusting time, compared to the present. For who today would choose to leave the hood unlocked on their expensive automobile, with the threat of theft of parts, and also barbarous vandalism for its own sake? These are surely such different times than even 30 years ago (which is not that long)
We are living through the times bequeathed to us under 'Murphies law' when so much is suddenly going wrong?
I agree with everything that you said
A lot of people won’t know how to open the hoods on these old cars because they’re going to go for the hood release on the inside the moment that they see the stick shift they’re gonna be all heck no I’m not gonna drive thats the security system especially if you have a car that doesn’t have a synchromesh transmission the number they put it in first gear and try to go to second they’re not gonna wanna do that that’s too much work.. lol me on the other hand I love a different driving experience =)
The Lincoln is beautiful but I would take the LaSalle for reliability. Thanks for the review on this beautiful car and, what looks like an excellent restoration. 👍
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I can’t get over how much these cost.. it’s a stretched 1940 ford
I would choose the Caddy LaSalle out of the 4 choices. Great videos!!
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Es uno de los autos mas bonitos de la historia.
Totally agree =)
.....thanks for another vid, it's great.....while all the '39's listed are beautiful collector vehicles, both "39 Lincolns look so much more modern, and attractive, imo......
Thank you so much for watching =)
What a beautiful car. Narrative got a bit confusing for me, but I’m getting old. You referred to _this dash_ while you’re showing two unlabeled dashes. Other than my confusion, great job!
Great Video!
2 door Lincoln
4 door Packard
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A Led Zepplin lyric while reviewing the Zephry'....Nice
Your the only one that caught that, it was totally coincidence that I did it for that my voice was pretty shot by that point I was wondering if it would even sound good.. lol this and the stutz were that last two cars I shot 20 cars in eight hours =)
I noticed that too ... I was thinking it may be foreshadowing to what the "song" would be, but no.
@@What.its.like. A guy named Joe commented on my post that he also picked up on it
You have mentioned the Resto Mod concept in the past.
This car is absolutely gorgeous.
I can think of two problems
The under powered and trouble prone engine.
Also the brakes might still be mechanical rather than hydraulic.
It should be possible to replace the engine with a later model Ford V-8.
I imagine that the V-12 engine is heavy.
So a big Block engine might be preferable.
It should be possible to upgrade the brakes to hydraulic.
Ideally power front disk brakes could be installed.
I would retain the original stick shift transmission.
I suppose that the rear end is intended
for 50 mph highway speeds. It would need to be modified so that the car can cruise on modern freeways.
I suppose that my list of improvements would destroy the cars originality.
Yet it would be very functional on the roads of today.
Thank you so much for sharing all that insight =)
They are beautiful alright.
They are kind of an American Delahaye with their flowing lines and balanced proportions.
I like that American delahaye =)
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This is a beautiful car.
Car looked absolutely amazing in person
@@What.its.like. I'm sure it does.
Hi Justin, good video, good car! The narrow running boards was due to the fact the the car industry was phasing out running boards at that time, especially on luxury cars to be able to make more hip and shoulder room inside the car and make more room when three people where seated in one seat. You know and I know that the Zephyr line of Lincoln was kind of an lower priced Lincoln, I think the Zephyr(s) where the best looking of the Lincoln line-up. From what I have read on the internet, the Lincoln Zephyr(s) are unit built construction and not body on-frame. The car industry news media states that the 1956-1957 Lincoln Continental Mark II was Fords first high-end personal luxury car, but they forget about the Lincoln Zephyr three window coupe (the car that you profiled). If the Lincoln Zephyr three window coupe, is not a high-end personal luxury car, I do not know what is. I think the 1956-1957 Lincoln Continental Mark II(s) where (hand built) and cost too much to sell very many. Please reply. Dave...
Thank you Justin! I think you see where I am coming from. Most luxury cars back then where not very streamlined, and most where four door. Thank you! Dave...
Think I like the 37 Zephyr styling a little bit better. But, it's a Lincoln...what a Luxury Car should be. WYR: 1. & 2: Packard!
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This is a beautiful design, with a lot of interesting details, I would prefer it in the Coupe Sedan , or convertible though. In the first scenario, I would rather have the LaSalle first, the Packard second. In the 4 door, it would be the Packard first, the LaSalle second, either in both scenarios really! 😎 Video
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Glad you liked this one =)
Its the Led Zep of Lincolns! "way down inside"....
Hahaha yeah =)
Not a detail too few, not a detail too many. Distinctive decades before cookie cutter automotive style ruled the lot. Not a box of electricity to propel this machine down the road just 12 velvety cylinders full of grace and elegance.
My preferred car from both scenarios would be the Lincoln Zephyr. Although I like the look of the 2 door, I would probably choose the 4 door because it has more interior room, besides I like the look of Suicide doors. The Zephyr name has been used on makes other than Lincoln, coincidently on other Ford products over the years. In the late 50s and early 60s there was a British Ford called Zephyr. It shared its sheet metal with Consol and Zodiac. In 1978 the Mercury Zephyr was introduced, and It was similar to the Fairmont. Lincoln used the Zephyr name once more in either 06 or 07, but only for one year. I did think the Zephyr name was over used.
Yeah they really went all in on the Zephyr name he used it over in Europe a lot..
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Thank you so much for sharing all of that added information as well as insight
6:02 That really is a beautiful car.
Absolute great looking car ! How ever , i prefer 1939 1940 Ford
4:30 I'm having a hard time understanding, in the 1938, where is the gear shift coming from? It doesn't seem to be coming from the transmission tunnel.
Wow, The travelling sales rep must have been well up the earning scale to have something like this to take his wares in the trunk.
Masterpiece 👍
I love the Zephyr grill and the Chrysler is a beauty, but today is Zephyr day.
Packard 4dr looks dated and the LaSale has a nice style but doesn’t have integrated head lights. So for me it’s between Chrysler and Zephyr. I like the rake of Zephyr better, so that is my choice.
This was such time of styling transitions. I know I picked the Airflow on an earlier video, but it’s design was so far ahead of it’s time. However if I wanted to make a statement about who I was in the community I would be driving a Packard, a car for a man.
Awesome =)
If given the chance to choose between 37 airflow or 37 120 both sedans. Chrysler. Or. Packard
Not sure which I’d buy if both could be had at the same price I’d lean toward the airflow because it’s different
Having my perspective of modern cars, the Airflow.
Jay: I had other recommendations, but I wanted to see the Zephyr vid first.
There’s a lot of cool stuff coming it’s hard to decide what to put where =)
Beautiful car, but I have to ask…..what was the attraction to 2 door, 2 seaters? No trunk and no room inside these coupes.
My cousin bought the exact 39 Zephyr in black back in 1959.
It had two fold down jump seats in back for kids.
This one wasn’t 💯 complete but didn’t want to miss the opportunity to feature this car =)
I agree for such a massive car space wasn’t used to the best of their ability
this car was all about style, practicality was in the other models...
Zephyr, Packard. I almost bought a '37 Zephyr as a teen in the 1970s, but was warned about the unreliable engine and the difficulty of finding someone who could pour babbits for the engine bearings, so I was scared off.
I was always a big fan of the 58 Edsel I had a chance to buy one when I was 21 I decided against it because it was kind of like you know I didn’t want to meet my hero kind of thing.. I didn’t think I had enough money to have that car at that point in time in my life I bought a 67 mustang instead.. early 60s Mustang is the perfect gateway Classic Car the perfect car to get into the Classic Car hobby because they are really cheap or at least when I had mine parts were really reasonable you could get every single engine part for that car as well as just about every single part is made for the car with a few exceptions..
Ford V8 flathead fits right in , the 12 was a very weak engine, nothing more than the 60 with 4 more cylinders, same parts as 60, weak crankshaft.
Very attractive.
Agreed just can’t get over asking prices for these with all of the engine overheating issurs
I wonder how that roof would look with an opera window in it?
No door panels or floor carpets...are they working on the car?
No air cleaner either.
Cool how you unlock the hood though. Who would have thought it was a rod with a bar that swings out of the way?
Underpowered with a V12 in there? That's hard to imagine!
Yeah this one was more incomplete than I wanted to show but not sure when the opportunity to do another one would show..
This car was good enough for The Green Hornet....i enjoyed seeing it.
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Led Zeppelin, my man. "way down inside,way down...in side. I did the Jimmy Page lick. You can count on me brother.
Haha
I can’t hit the notes like I used to be able to I used to sing Black dog light karaoke night are used to be able to hit all of the notes go note to note with Robert Plant no problem at all I can’t do it anymore kinda of sucks.. maybe one day I’ll do my Bon Scott impression if I can get it to where it’s good again. Are used to seeing every day but I don’t anymore so my voice doesn’t have the range it used to.
Music and cars go together so well and a lot of times if you don’t have a radio you sing in the car right.. or at least I do lol
4 main bearings, same as Packr'd, obviously not designed to handle great power output.
Yeah it’s nuts the stutz previous episode had 9 straight eight
@@What.its.like. I think the Packr'd 8 had 9 bearings to, seems odd, might be something to do with a longer crankshaft.
1939 La Salle and Packard sedan 🤠✌️
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@@What.its.like. 1939 and 1940 were beautiful years for LaSalle. For a really beautiful Packard, it has to be 1941/42.
Lincoln, Lincoln, and, oh by the way, Lincoln. (with the Packard grabbing for my throat.)
The LaSalle in both cases... (Which is the name Cadillac almost used for what became the Seville...)
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I pick the Packard for both scenarios.
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My stuck up friend had an uncompleted zephyr. He sold it. Because couldn't find a proper engine for it. Too expensive for me. New owner put a V8 flathead in it.
That’s crazy.. thank you so much for sharing that story
Such a stunningly beautiful car despite a few short comings. My favorite American car of all time was the 1940 Ford, but I have to say it has been eclipsed by this specimen! I would just hate to be the mechanic who has to set the valve lash on "12" cylinders!
This car looked like a stretched 1940 Ford that’s the best way I could really describe it is that’s what this car was it’s just a massive version of it.. when you see the V 12 for the first time it looks like a stretched Ford flathead V-8
@@What.its.like. I agree Jay!
I know I'm being picky; you mention that the next video will be at whatever time Easter Standard Time, but as of the 2nd Sunday in March we are in Eastern Daylight Time. We don't return to Standard Time until the 1st Sunday of November.
I always thought it was just called eastern standard time was the time zone that I was in.. lol I could be wrong I’ve said other things wrong like I always thought it was V line (the way birds fly) come to find out years later that it was B line.. thank you for that correction eastern time is what I’ll say
Can you (or anyone) recommend a nice "coffee table book" featuring such sort of automotive art? Thanks in advance!
Your Zephyr looks like a 1938 model to me.
Thank you they got the dates mixed up it’s not the first time it probably won’t be the last either I’m going to change it on the title and make a note of it in the description thank you so much for the correction
Zephyr on both choices!
Sweet =)
The maroon coupe you showed in the video is actually a 1938 Lincoln Zephyr
Thank you so much for that correction it was really hard to decipher what year that was
Museum car is not a '39. Grill bars should be vertical, not horizontal, front bumper should be split ahead of radiator, & dash is wrong. Maybe a '38 or maybe pieced together from different model years.
The more I was looking at it while putting this together I was thinking it was a 38 it’s quite possibly that it’s just Mark the wrong year because I looked at the 39 - and it’s different than the 38 - this one has a 38 - unless they change - is mid year which I wasn’t sure about..
Thank you so much for pointing out all of those differences =)
1939 Packard One Twenty Darrin Convertible Victoria.
1939 Packard Twelve Phaeton.
Those would be awesome =)
So... Basically. You're identifying as one of them Yankees? Lol
Beautiful car... One wonders why the owner decided to consign this car without a driver's side door panel?
Likely they're next to possible to locate?
Love the color of the car, and dash. As well as the grouping of literally everything in the center
It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been called a Yankee I’m actually not that loud or rowdy as a person I’m more or less keep to myself.
I guess the guy just had a problem with my delivery I guess I’ll have to work on it I didn’t think that it needed improved because it worked maybe I’ll try to figure out a different way different way to deliver
Packard and Packard and when possible ... more Packard
I agree we need to do more Packards on here I’ve been working trust me they’re just not easy to find
I really wanna cover a Packard twinsix as well as a 12 on the channel this year
Jay, this car is "SEXY"!> Yes...... "SEXY"! The newest car that I've seen that's "SEXY" is the VW 10cc, and the Mercedes CL500, (I think that's the #)
I’m not sure what model Mercedes that is it was a 1955 Mercedes I believe I didn’t have time to do it I ran out of time I was going to possibly do it I’m not a huge Mercedes-Benz fan but I’ll feature them on the channel.. when given the chance
@@What.its.like. Jay, that Mercedes that I'm referring to is a pretty late model one, of maybe 5 yrs ago. Do> check out the VW10cc, I'm pretty sure that 's the name of the model.
The Chrysler
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There is only I think 3 things that I would do to change this car one I would lower it with air rights suspension.
I would make it standard on the floor instead of on the column. If it was standard and I would put suicide doors on it. That would be it, and on the skirts, I would do memory of my father on one side and I would do memory of my mother on the other side on the skirts. And I would drive this car to the cemetery to see my mother and father. Every Sunday like I do already. I go there and have coffee with them. If it is bad weather, I would take my other vehicle but nice days every Sunday. I would take it. I go there for their birthdays for Father's Day for Mother's Day for Mother's Day. In other holit is but that would be my cemetery car knowing that I have my mother and father with me and i'm going to see them beautiful beautiful car
1 & 2: Lincoln Zephyr.
Tune: I Get Around. Not sure of the artist.
Good guess it’s not The Beach Boys
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@@What.its.like. Thanks, man.
Only $29k today, yet we know that today this would easily be a $40k car. Wonder why...
More people more money in circulation, I think there’s some things The inflation calculator can’t account for.
Packard I’m both case’s
Sweet =)
I do those to see what cars you guys are into sounds to me like we need to do more Packards this year I’ve been looking they’re just hard to find.. I really wanna cover at 12 this year or twin six
37,
39 Lincoln
39 Lincoln
Beatles, Do you want to know a secret (that is a WAG)...
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It was the Beatles please please me