Fuel Pump Failure Also Caused Another Failure. Let's Fix This !!
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Old pump ran for a second when you took the pine wrench to it. That was probably the event that took out the fuse. Pump was bad and your work was not in vain. Good job. Lesser channels would never have shown a “failure”. You have a great channel because of your candor and honesty. We are still including Meg in our nightly prayers. I’m glad to see she is doing better. Getting older is difficult, but the alternative is worse.
@haneyoakie14 Thank you for your kind words. Meg appreciates all the prayers. Keep wrenching 🔧
I cut access holes in bed floor of my Chevy Van and PU to get to top of tank pump easily.
Takes 20 minutes to change pump now
I made a steel cover plate.
Excellent channel Thank you.
Very polite mechanic no bad swearing cursing etc .
I thought of doing the same thing a few times, but ended up just lifting the box off - it isn’t really that hard to do on my trucks
@@kellismith4329 yeah . Van is different.
But it's so easy now to trouble shoot and replace pumps with Access hatches .
Factory should have provided such.
Rust belt trucks not so easy to drop tanks or pop beds off
Need a torch .
I did the same thing in my express van.
@bobburro3642 380,000 miles on mine . Best vehicle I ever had.
Isn't it amazing how life works? When the customer brings a car in for a problem it will always be empty and yet when a fuel pump fails, the tank will Always be half a tank or more full.....You just can't win. Thanks so much for bringing us along on this one and happy to know that Mrs. Wrench is by your side doing better.
I read that fueling up can sometimes be what causes them to fail, the scenario i read was you are on a long trip, run the tank real low and then fill up. Something like the fuel is a little bit of a coolant for the pump and it gets hot when really low, then shocked with fresh cool fuel dumped in right after stopping causes a failure
It's crazy how that works! Thank you for your kind words & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
I found it easier to lift up the bed than to drop the tank especially if you have to do it in the driveway.
I've never had a fuel pump go out on an empty tank! It's almost always a full tank of gas! Thanks Kenny
Yup! Every dang time 🤯
Thats quite the jury rig with those zip ties. Excellent “in the shop engineering”
Just a little tip for you love watching your videos but I work by myself and I had three heroines at the same time I would drain all the gasoline out of the tank and put it in five gallon containers and put it back in after I got the tank back in it a lot easier to move a empty tank then a full one have a blessed day today 🙏
Some trucks you can unbolt one side of the bed and partially unbolt the other side, then jack up the bed to make room to get to the top of the tank.
It can be faster, safer, and easier than dropping the tank.
I wish every truck had an access hatch in the bed, but they don't care about us.
Yes I can confirm that method works well, I just used that hinge method to do my brakeline recently, on previous times I lifted the box right off it isn’t terribly difficult
Nice work Kenny. My local shop wanted $800 bucks for Caravan fuel pump swap. I did it in the driveway, actually not too bad. Great tip with the zip ties. Thank you for all your videos.
Nice job well done. I would have at least shed a tear before you found the fuse. Glad to see Meg getting out and around. Thanks for the video.
your shop has A/C wow that's amazing Kenny.
It really is one of the best diagnostic tests there is for a fuel pump Tells you you got power and you got ground smack the pump Get the armature to move And starts and runs diagnosis complete
Zip ties, greatest thing since sliced bread. Makes great plug wire separators too for my `91 Silverado. 33 year old plastic breaks if you look at it wrong.🤣 Had that issue when I replaced the pump assembly in my truck, but I was going to replace those pigtails anyway. Used marine shrink tube and uninsulated crimp connectors for my splice. No more tank issue, but I found out the gas gauge in the dash is done. I`m 66 and still wrenching on my own junk. Next project will be wiring a complete Digital cluster in the old girl. The old "moonie" gauges are dying one at a time, oil pressure gauge took a dump, has old school one for now. New cluster will fix them all.😁 Keep wrenching!
keep doing everything possible.....nothing beats the feeling of doing it Correctly YOURSELF!
I had a 92 Nissan 240 with what I believed to be a faulty fuel pump. I was stuck in a parking lot with a few tools in the back. Luckily I had a testlight. I decided to check the fuel pump fuse. Sure enough it was blown. I swapped another fuse and she fired up. Yes I was worried the fuse was going to blow again. Well I drove it for years after that and no problems. It's proof to me that fuses do just wear out. I eventually sold the car and it was still running years later.
The main lesson I learned was to always check your powers and grounds.
Thanks for another great Video Kenny!
@bobcombs7138 I'm glad you knew to start at the fuse box. I knew the fuel pump was going. I should have made it a priority to replace. As you know, our personal vehicles often get shoved to the back of the repair line. Thanks for sharing your experience & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
Yes fuses do just give out at times, or something caused a momentery rise in current etc - also had a relay get weak on a GM truck it would randomly just die and the relay quite warm when it did, cheap fix local auto store had one on the shelf for under $20 the truck is still working fine now years later
I had an '90 D150 that the pump went out. In the back yard I decided to pull the bed. The truck was clean and rust free. Since it was a Saturday, I had a couple of neighbors come over to help lift the bed back. I considered lowering the tank and like in your case, the wires and hoses were a deterrent to that method for me.
Kenny the looks just like my chisel. Hey that worked out. I had to drop my tank on my low truck a while back. So much fun! You did good. I didn't know about the fuse dying. Good to know. Good video as always!😊
Thanks for your kind words & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
I found using your ampmeter after removing the fuel pump relay Across the load side 30 & 87 NOT the switching side 85 & 86 as you could damage the ecu
Usually 4 to 7 amp's pump is good
10 to 15 amp's or more suspect blockage.
1to 2 amp's out of fuel or major fuel leak.
But hitting the tank is a good simple method.
Hitting starters can sometimes get you out of trouble also as long as you can locate them on the modern cars. A long bar and hammer is all that is required.
As long as you don't touch the main battery terminal 😮
I just changed my fuel pump in my 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 about 3wks ago. I also did an oil charge & changed the air filter. My truck seems to be running pretty good for now!! Prayed just now for the family!! 🙏💛🙏
Kenny you need a short step ladder to look on top of the tank
I've had to drop transmissions and fuel tanks without the aid of a transmission jack I always ran a couple of Cam-Buckle Tie Down Straps to catch the load. I've seen too many other mechanics try to tough it out. It only takes one slip or missed connection to cause a problem, no matter how much experience you have.
That was a great cliffhanger and amazed at how calm you looked when it didn't fire up. Thank got it was the fuse and the not the new pump. 👍
You have a hoist lift the box off there’s only eight bolts to plug-ins
I've changed several fuel pumps, I pulled the tank one time never again. I unbolt the bed and move it back and go to work, it's so much easier and I don't get a face full of dirt. Just a suggestion. 😊
did a 2001 expedition in my driveway. Of course, it had gone out the day after i fill it up. was able to just lower the tank to get the pump out without having to remove it.
Good morning Mr Kenny hope y'all have a great Sunday. Fire up y'all's grill, to dang hot to cook inside 😅😊
YOU HAD AN ACTUAL BLOCK OF WOOD? Lucky bastard. I usually only have my boot. People always park them in the worst places.
Be careful and try not to sniff the gas it's awlfully strong too.I had to change mine and made that mistake.
Good day brother Kenny, you are 100% right when you said 'this is a dirty job'. I have done this job before on a different vehicle. It is not easy to close your eyes to avoid getting dirt in them but I too don't look forward to doing it right by wearing safety glasses. When you are old school like us and have had experience doing this job, you sometimes bend the official safety rules. After you removed the pump retaining ring and mute the microphone to blow the top of the pump off I was thinking what if all of that debris got into the fuel tank.That would make some mess and potentially plug up the filter and pump but could even cause the new pump to burn out as it is trying to pass solid material where only gasoline is supposed to be flowing. Hey Kenny, I love seeing applications of "lube-a-dube". It sounds kinky but we get the point. I am surprised that you don't have the tool that helps you remove that retaining ring and even to put back on. When you were putting it back on, I'll bet you were thinking 'now why didn't I get the darn tool?' That damn # 17 fuse!! Have a good day and 'Keep Wrenching'. Kenny, I think that you deserve a new Ram truck, or newer truck at least.
Awesome job thanks for the tip about fuse me would have pull tank back out crazy.😁😁
Same. That is what keeps us here Kenny. Thank you for taking the effort to film.
5 minutes in, I'm dealing with PTSD. Dropped one of those tanks (quarter full) to run new brake lines. Flat on my back, on the ground, the shield dropped on my face! Caught me right under my nose. Holy crap that hurt for a while! I was fortunate nothing broke or got cut, but OWW!
Well done from Australia
I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500,4.7, with over 154,000 miles on it. I keep it excellent repair and maintained. What I don’t/can’t do, I have a fantastic mechanic who does. But I am not looking forward to the fuel pump replacement when that time comes. I’m willing to bet I’ll have a full tank of gas when it happens, and 26 gallons isn’t something to play around with. So it will certainly go to my mechanic and his crew. I’ve watched to process to drop the tank, deal with all the hoses and stuff, and wonder why, Dodge just didn’t put an opening in the bed you could remove to replace the pump? Was that too simple for design engineers to do? Or maybe they were too lazy. Maybe if these engineers and designers were forced to work on the vehicles they design we would have it much easier.
wow...at 14:55 I was looking at the lift and how scary that lift point looks. Please be careful Kenny!!!!
Hey thanks for another great video kenny
Great video.
I've a Quashqai petrol with hesitation under acceleration. Got a second hand fuel sender unit.
I was pissed to find that you cannot just replace or clean a filter or a pump motor - that it is all plastic moulded into a unit like in this vid. Easy to change (the 'locking ring' was a PITA) but painfully expensive.
Fortunately top of the tank is exposed through a panel under the rear seat.
The filter was clogged with very fine silt from the fuel, replacement unit was better, problem solved.
There was nothing wrong with the pump, float, electrics etc. - What a waste, for the sake of an non replaceable filter pad.
I have dropped tanks on other cars (on a drive-way), *much* easier to drain as much as possible into jerry cans first.
Hi Mr Wrench. Love the video. One thing I wish you add is the cost of parts. I live in Jersey curious if parts way down South are cheaper. Keep wrenching
Honestly, I can't really answer that question. Economics would say that parts in affluent areas are more expensive than they would be in an impoverished neighborhood, plus supply and demand play a factor in price. The tax rate changes from state to state, too. Just my take on it. Thanks for asking & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
I remember buying a used truck. The fuel pump was working but no fuel delivery. Took it apart and found out the previous owner was a cheapskate. Just replaced the pump and not the whole assembly with tubes. It was so old the tubes disintegrated in the fuel. Stop being cheap. Replace the whole assembly.
What is that other unit in the tank besides the pump? Evap canister or a filter?
Those don’t have a port at the fuel rail to measure pressure?
Thanks for the tip of using zip ties in place of those old clips that always break!
Yes they have a port
As an old motorcycle mechanic I will tell you that if you have to take it for a test ride the tank will be dry and if you have to pull the tank it will be full.
Yea my 2013 Honda is nearing 264K and has the factor pump May have some issues with it Dirty sock and/or pump getting weak Like to replace the sock at the least but while in there like to replace the pump. But with the troubles of parts quality these days do I wanna chance the new pump not lasting. At least it's fairly easy to change
I remember when the fuel pump was in the engine compartment so nice and easy. Now you have to drop the tank.
Did you not check the fuse and filter before changing the pump ?
Nope. The pump had to be changed regardless. So, I just got to it. As we do, I just keep wrenching 🔧
If don’t have compressed air you can use the caned air or a vacuum
Don't have compressed air i use a electric leaf blower.
😂 I thought of using a leaf blower, but it would have probably taken off some important rusty bits 😅
That metal retaining ring though...Meh....🤔😳....The guy who invented the Pull Tie deserves a Medal....😀😏🇬🇧
Good job, I am restoring a 1987 GMC S15 2.8 V6 do you think that I should replace the fuel pump and the tank? I am going to drop the tank and look inside to see what condition it is in.
The ONE fuel pump I’ve done was on a 1994 Dakota and OF COURSE it was a full tank of gas.
I don’t have a lift, this was all done on a gravel driveway with ramps.
What a pain. My son has a S-10 and I think his pump is going out.
8 bolts, 1 hose clamp at the fuel inlet and 3 wire connectors for lights and we’re going to be lifting the bed off. 😂
It IS always a FULL tank of gas!
VW, changed fuel pump because the level sender went out, and they are integrated. No need to drop tank, just undo 3 screws in the rear and remove cover, and there it is.
Kenny, nice job. Do you ever mess with a pocket oscilloscope and amp clamp? Seems like it might be a time efficient way to see bad segments on the commutator and confirm the pump’s motor is failing.
Nice fix! Say you're "getting dirty"---doesn't that go with the territory?
hammers and wood is a mechanics best diag tool .😂🤣😅 really sometimes it is and miss wrench as the apprentice helps as well .
Those metal retainer rings are like the same thing they use on brake rotors at the assembly line so they don't fall off while the vehicle is going down the assembly line if they are still on the rotors it's the first time they have been changed some of the connectors they have are a pain in the ass and there are so many different types it doesn't make sense why they need all of them. Zip ties have a bunch of uses when it comes to connectors but duct tape is a little different when it comes to car repair something quick and temporary it's not NASCAR with the two hundred mile an hour tape 😊
what that bit for next the the pump?
GM loves to use metel outlets. that rust. thanks so much to them.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I guessed it was a fuse problem before you showed it.
Just saw South Main doing almost the same tank today.......
I did clean my fuel tank! You saw that! Thats what i would have said :)
I remember back in the old days, you would be trying to keep it running while you get it somewhere safe and you'd have to sit under the hood and pour gas down the carburetor and it would backfire, burnt my hair and eyebrows many times trying to do this... Way better days, lol😂
a towtruck????
usually a good idea to replace the locking ring and the tool doesn't cost very much and saves lots of time
I owned a 1988 GMC truck. At 8 years of age, my fuel pump died. Took 6 weeks to get all the parts. Fixed it in the driveway. Never again.
Pumps always go out when you have a full tank, the reason is always running the tank to empty all the till , always keep it full and most times you won't have problems 😢
That's the problem with an old vehicle...can be difficult to locate parts.
@@wendwllhickey6426don't have to worry about that with fuel pump modules on modern vehicles. The pump sit in the plastic housing keeps fuel around the pump unlike older pumps out in the open tank.
@@bigdaddymak1439true but the modules go out and can be expensive if you can find them depending on the year and make
What year is your truck and what year dodge is best to buy? Thank You
My trunk is an 05. I would stay away from Hemis from 09-16. I'm not sure if you would have another choice, though. Big nope to 2011 & 2012
I like to cut the tops of old fuel pumps Cut out the electrical connectors Then you can probe Sending unit and then wire in a light bulb to the positive and negative of the pump I Like to use A headlight bulb Cause it's It's enough Of a load to see whether the light lights up bright And I put that That piece in my toolbox So now I can just reach up over the top of the tank unplug The wire plug that in Simple Cheap Diagnostic aid But don't do it with fuel lines open or Pump unit out of the tank light bulb Could cause a fire.
I always try to suck out as much gas out that I can before I lower it
Waiting to see more Camaro video projects take time and life as well but patiently waiting keep up the good work
Here's a tip for you - To cancel the chime while starting - just buckle up the safety belt. It chimes to warn you to buckle up...
Or do up the belt before you get in and leave it connected - when I go to junkyards I will always grab a buckle to hang on to should I want to shut the chime off
Why couldn’t you use an impact wrench with a Chistle attachment to remove the fuel pump ring? Just askin….
Get your sir hammer and lightly hammer around the ring to break the rust/dirt bond. Goes easier.
God bless you
Don’t you hate it, one thing leads to another. Simple job on my Mustang has led to 2 years of work.
Y do u mark the drive shaft it not balanced to the rear def so no point
How come you didn’t suck gas out of tank and wipe copper flakes out so they won’t short new pump seen guys put pumps in one after another and tank had copper flakes from old gas pump motor.
Fuel looked good to me & there was really no place to put 20 gallons of fuel. If it dies on me again I will clean the tank out. Hopefully, I will get another 260,000 miles out of the new pump, too 😃
I have never done a fuel pump without removing the box. Just did my isuzu pickup.
Do you ever just lift the bed off instead of dropping the tank? And i saw a video where there's a scientific reason fuel pumps die with full tanks. Something like when the pump gets weaker it puts more of a load on the pump when tank is full. Very interesting
@bigdaddymak1439 - for me it's too much work to pull the bed off for such a small job. Thanks for your comment & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
@@WrenchingWithKenny up north we don't touch the bed bolts! 🤣🤣🤣
Most of the cordless tools are brushless and produce no spark
Cut you an access hole in the bed!!! I’ve seen it done before 😂
😳 hell no
I feel you're pain on those connections
At least your Dodge doesn't have the "hemi" V8 engine. I have countless friends and associates who so regretted buying Dodge vehicles with those engines.
I'm not a fan of the hemi motor either. Thanks for watching the channel & keep wrenching 🔧
@WrenchingWithKenny the 03 to 05 hemis are the best engines Dodge ever made. Pre mds and not as complicated as the 4.7. Although i do have a 08 ram 4.7 with 6 speed manual as well as my 03 to 05 hemi rams. The 08+ 4.7 has 310 hp also
The last couple of fuel pumps I've done, i raised the bed.
That's why they should have stayed with a mechanical fuel pump!
I learned that these were called pal nuts, but they could be called not your pal nuts.
It never fails when you need gas
Hmm took about 10 minutes to replace the fuel pump on my 66 c10😂
Closing your eyes instead of safety glasses is called using your "safety squints"
Nice ! tooooo hot! to not have success!
Pull the bed much easier
Lift box
Kenny throwing the parts cannon?
This is click bait! Just kidding. Poking fun at the guy on the last video.
Not being in the business, how do employers and employees work out time to work on your own vehicles? I'm sure that could be a sore point at times.
Wow drop the tank. They could have made it easier
You can lift the bed
We will not go bananas 🍌
LOL! Did this job on my Subaru in 20 minutes in my driveway.
Access panel under the carpeting.
How hard is it to punch out a hole in the floorpan when its being stamped?
As a retired toolmaker, let me say not effing hard at all, it's like the carmaker is just being a dick.
Krad Snackies !!
Need bigger hammer ha
I have watched you for some time now, I enjoy the videos, however one thing is unfortunately very clear with you, it seems like you more of a do as I say , not as I do mechanic. You are very LAZY when it comes to maintenance and repair of your own vehicles, you allow your wife and yourself to drive them with warning lights on for months and months before addressing the issues, then you just fix one problem, just so the vehicle will continue to operate. IE your wife van, your truck, this truck, I know the 1st defense we make is I don't have time ya yayay , we all get the exact 1440 minutes in a day to use them as we wish so, that won't work as an argument. You complain about other mechanics work, but here you are waiting and knowing this truck needs to be fixed but as usual you wait until you must fix something . Just Sayin. Not a good work ethic or example to people. Like You , just not the procrastination. Keep wrenching.
When I was young, I was working as a mechanic and so were my buddies. Seems like every mechanic I've ever known that cars were about to fall apart. Then I got into air conditioning. Same thing. Mine and body fall apart, but I'd pick everybody else's just the way it is. Not everybody is perfeit's like a monday morning quarterback just saying
@@emmettrobinson9708 sounds like excuses for being lazy.