No Codes, Just Clues. Trial & Error For A "No-Power" Situation. Customer Thought Ir Was The Trans!
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Great job Ford for designing a fuel pump that is almost impossible to get out of the tank. Engineers should have to work on this stuff before it is put into production.
Finally I got to see a video of car repair with good old wisdom. I hate watching people show me the scanner for 30 minutes. If the scanner doesn't show anything they are clueless.
You need to watch Pine Hollow auto diagnostics with Ivan.
@@stevemccauley5734 I tried to but the video I watched was all talk and looking at a computer for information on how to fix it.
I really enjoy this process of diagnosis. Keep making these videos please, it’s giving me a great education. I do all my own wrenching on my vehicles for economy.
92 chevy I had Chased my tail for weeks and even with a friends help we battled a issue. Cold it ran worse. Got better as it warmed up Would fall on its face Stall when cold. Finally did a pressure test Started out fine then pressure dropped to 2 Dropped the tank to replace the fuel pump. Rubber hose on top of the fuel pump was hard as a rock and split. Gotta love that ethanol
That is your experience showing. Love the old school deductive reason.
Had an '80's Toyota that idled & rev'd fine (in Park) but couldn't get out of its own way; top speed about 30 MPH.
Pulled up my shade tree & tried to diagnose the problem. Replaced in-line fuel filter, rebuilt carb, ran gas tank dry & refilled with name-brand gas....no change. Checked timing, new distributor cap, rotor, spark plugs, wires. Wasn't misfiring either. Had a collapsed muffler!!!
Damn thing ran GOOD after that muffler was changed 😂😂😂
One of my worst ' head scratcher '
( more like pull hair out ) troubleshooting jobs was where I put another engine in my sister's car, hooked everything up, and it ran but only dead slow idle. If you touched the gas it quit. I went over everything till I was pulling hair out then after thinking , it occurred to me that the old engine blew a lot of oil before destruction, then the car sat a few months.
I pulled the exhaust off the manifold and it fired up like a race car. The old engine gunked up the catalytic converter ( early converter ) and then it sat and the gunk hardened up like asphalt.
Another one more from the computer Era was a Ford Zetec engine that managed to run backwards a few turns and in the process have the belt skip 3 teeth.
It ran but only had about 20 hp. and it showed up absolutely zero codes.
Dr. Kenny with the filet arm cut story. Awesome and priceless. True automotive warrior with battle scars to prove !
I had an 02 5.3l that kept giving me left or right bank lean codes, but ran fine. I finally borrowed the fuel pressure kit from Autozone and tested 48 instead of the recommended 54 pressure. Replaced the fuel pump and OMG the acceleration I suddenly had. It might have been under pressured for years!
You sir have a bad fuel pump and yes always change the module with the pump
wrong🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ford came off the line with cracked heads, cracked block, bent connector pins, bad fuel pumps, wrong fuel pressure , flat tires and just enough fluids to pull it out production line.
air filter missing, amazing. I do agree the other items needed to be addressed (fuel pump, control module) as the new parts let the engine rev higher, much higher than before, I am glad you kept chasing the mid-range response as in doing so you found the air filter was missing.. Cleaning the Air Mass Sensor is always a good idea. Nice tip re the contact cleaner.
28:23. Absolutely beautiful music being made. Sweeter then a symphony Orchestra playing Mozart...
Mr. Kenny love ur videos love your sense of humor
Good morning Mr Kenny hope y'all have a wonderful day.Guess what today is?🐫😅😂
😂😂😂 thank goodness!
Check if there's a 'banana in the tailpipe'. ("Beverly Hills Cop" with Eddie Murphy)
😂😂😂😂 I've seen potatoes & pasta stuffed in tailpipes. Thanks for making me laugh. Keep wrenching 🔧
Funny.
Nice detective work.
Sometimes these repair videos are more like reading a murder mystery-- piecing together the clues to try to reconstruct what scary acts occurred in the vehicle's past.
Use generic obd and monitor all O2 voltage, if it drops lean on wot look at fuel pressure
WOT puts the pcm into open loop. When in open loop, the pcm ignores the info from the O2 sensors, and doesn't use them to set fuel trims.
Yes. Air and hand tools only. And I always fill the tank with Co2. You guys are a shop so should be no problem getting a big cylinder of Co2
Great job ! Fuel was issue. Air box. My 2009 focus will start. But open box or no filter I go nowhere. Metered air. Thanks. For your honesty
Amazing video.....thank you Kenny!
I was thinking either something blocking the suction side of the fuel pump (restricted th flow) or junk in between the pump and the front delivery point.
Great job I like the paying attention to detail again Great job
Good job Kenny
Ex wife calls me couple days ago,says her PT Bruiser has no get up and go. Jerky and she says tranny's no good. I looked at it,told her bad fuel pump. Then it left her stuck. Finally she changed fuel pump 😅😂. Probably could use injectors to but ( hard headed). Finally asked her, well why did you even call me then, here's the list, radiator, valve cover gasket, and I smelled fuel in your oil. Leaky injector I suppose 😅😂
@bobby9195 you're a good man! I hope you're having a good day. When you get a minute shoot me an email at wrenchingwithkenny@gmail.com
Keep wrenching, brother
You actually talk to your ex!!!
Very nice video.
Have 2017 transit 250 at work used for construction work. Great,, great van. It is purposely beat to a living piss 18 hours a day in N.Y.C. relentlessly. In past 5 years, not one single issue.
That fuel Tank/Pump cluster-F should be a FOUND ON ROAD DEAD RECALL ISSUE.
NO WAY A PUMP SWAP SHOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT.
TANKS ARE ALWAYS A TOUGH
JOB, NOT BOTH.
I had TO CHANGE THE Fuel pump in my 90 3/4 TON 4 WD, TBI Suburban with a 40 gallon tank in A McDonald's Parking Lot. Tank took 3hrs out & back in
PUMP? Ten minutes.
#FFORD
parking lots in Mexico must be where everybody goes to drink. Did the customer say if the fuel pump has been replaced, some aftermarket pumps don't deliver the correct volume and have pressure. Had it happen to me with a throttle body injection system.
What about the dead head pressure? Crimp the return line and see what the pressure is.
Maybe I missed it, but was the fuel filter replaced? You can still have correct pressure but the volume could be reduced if it were partially clogged.
First thing I do for low power concerns is watch your O2 sensors and TPS under a short wide open throttle event. If they drop lean during WOT then you have a fuel delivery issue. If it stays rich you rule out fuel.
Did you really need the fuel pump ? Thanks for your hard work for us !……
Multiple problems always hard to get to the bottom of.😮
Gotta love engineers, especially the ones at Ford.
Had the same issue with my fuel gauge valve 😎
Fuel filter plugged
That is also a concern of mine
Another great Colombo episode: Pardon me Ms Fuelpump. Refresh my memory, what is your relationship to MAS Air Sensor? I have no relationship to MAS Air Sensor. I divorced Mr. Air Filter 2 years ago. Oh, Ma’am, I think you do have a relationship with both of them.
Absolutely awesome line of questioning.
I had a 2000 Silverado that if the gas went below a quarter tank, it would buck like a angry bucking bronco. Above a quarter tank, no issues. It was like it was sucking air below a certain point. Eventually the fuel pump died, and a new one solved that bucking problem.
I guess you need one of them fuel pump assembly pullers
Likely someone replaced with a used pump that was bad and air filter was removed thinking air flow troubles i had same troubles with a 92 s10 and it was fuel pump
Had a 2013 chevy 3500 gas 6.0l kept throwing lean codes on both banks fuel trucks good, good fuel pressure longer you drove it started losing power wouldn't go over 4k roms then all sudden fuel pressure drop to 20psi then all of sudden back to 60psi found 2 problems the fuel pump weak and the fuel supply line was smashed
Did you happen to look at the numbers on the mass air after the repair? Take care.
It's amazing something so basic that you would think a car would have no air filter someone dropped the ball on the last service I wouldn't think someone would forget something like that
I would have thought restricted fuel pump and or restricted cat.
No fuel filter ?
I can't believe someone decided running with no air filter was a good idea. I live in the desert with extremely dusty conditions though.
100% no disrespect. I have Leg issues. I changed my Diet to 99% carnivore & from 300lbs down to 230 now my legs are much better & I feel so much better.
That's the goal. I have a Dr's appointment next week. I appreciate you sharing your experience. Thanks for watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧
@WrenchingWithKenny That diet definitely works great, you'll feel like a different person in every aspect. If you didn't like eating strictly beef you could also look into keto as an alternative
Hamburger is a health food if EATEN right.
If you eat it all by itself.
My dad's Chevy Aveo was having weird stumbling issues if you were slightly spirited in acceleration or driving in the freeway (it was worse when cruising at 60mph) and he thought it was fine. I pulled a plug, it was at .086. I shook my head, got some plugs and now it drives normal again.
He did say it seemed odd oh the freeway, and what i experience was nearly bucking, and i told him if it's doing that you need to go to a mechanic! He was like you are my mechanic. Smh, i was visiting for a month I'm not always around to fix his stuff.
All that said, the slight hesitation you are feeling, could it be worn plugs?
Now I finished the video Drove a Ford E van into the shop Kept chugging and stalling. Opened the hood the air box was not put together right Fixed that ran fine
Gotta love those mechanical engineers....NOT! I always said they should have to R and R every part they design so they understand what the mechanic goes through.
I AM a mechanical engineer and I agree. Before someone gets to design a new part or product, they should have maintain the old ones for several years. That would give them a different perspective, when they decide to save a nickel or 30 seconds of assembly time with something that will cost the customer lots of time and money down the road.
Was Fuel filter replaced with pump. Was the pump actually bad or was it the Mas and no filter
Fuel trim was adding fuel. Could be weak pump
Only one bananas in this video!
The air in the fuel stream wasnt good either
I wanted to yell at the screen, CHECK THE AIR BOX. I had a Taurus that sat for a while, and critters had somehow gottin into there and made a nest. Surprisingly, I had no lights, but she started right up, only when you accelerated, she would bog down. Cleaned everything out, changed the air filter, and maf, then she ran perfect.
You could easily do a fuel pump volume test general rule is 1 pint in 15 seconds
Brake stand???
Why wouldn't a plugged fuel filter be considered?
Some vehicles don't have a inline fuel filter. I wouldn't doubt if Honda didn't start that crap?... my old 2002 Accord didn't have one.
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It revved good up on the top end before and would still stumble on the low to mid-range after the fuel pump change. If it had low fuel pressure from a bad fuel pump, it wouldn't get enough fuel and it would stumble on the top end, when it needs more fuel. Not at low RPM when it doesn't need as much fuel. I would like to know what the fuel pressure was after the fuel pump change. I bet it was about the same. Even if it was an improvement, the behavior of the engine was still the same, so I doubt the new pump was needed.
When diagnosing a low power complaint, don't make it any more complicated than it needs to be. Start with the basics and work from there. Look at the age of the vehicle, the mileage and when it was last serviced. The first thing you should have checked is the air filter to see it if was clogged. You would have seen that the filter was missing, you would have installed a filter, and you would have seen a massive improvement. I would bet that improvement would have been so massive that you would not have even considered checking the fuel pressure, let alone changing the fuel pump.
If it has enough miles on it, I would check the plugs too. If the owner was too lazy/cheap to put an air filter in it, then It's doubtful they changed the plugs either.
I wonder how long that didn’t have an air filter
So no air filter and a fuel pump that was starting to go bad. Interesting lol.
Ya…. Plugged up cats will do it every time….
I must have missed the episode that explains what "I'm driving into Mexico" means. What is that about?
What engine?
You're a great tech but a poor cameraman. Love the videos
is not the pressure supposed to go up as the regulator responds to increased demand
That's ridiculous. Let's make a 4 inch hole and put a 4 1/6 inch object in it.
More like "shove" a 4 1/6 inch object in it... Lol... ridiculous huh?
Why didn’t you check fuel filter ?
The fuel filter is internal to the tank
Thanks for the reply!
What shocks me is no code for a missing air filter. Perhaps that MAF isn't exactly good? At this point i would recommend to your costumer to have the MAF sensor replaced since you didn't get a code. In reality no filter should have tripped the CEL and set a code if everything is up to par.
No it wouldn’t. No code so you’d change it? You must be a dealer “tech” lol
@@stevemccauley5734 I've seen MAF codes set by pulling the breather then starting it up. Did it once forgetting to put the breather on, MAF still plugged in. It's equivalent to not having the filter in it. Makes sense, considering if the filter gets plugged, it will also set a MAF code. Not saying it will do that on all vehicles but it will on some.
I thought you were in South Carolina? How do you get to Mexico?
It’s a city in the state
Kenny…
PCM: ( issue x issue = you tell me )
Fuel induction cleaning? 38:33
Greetings Kenny, I hope you are doing well and will answer my questions and that is I am around your age but not as healthy and though I done major engine repairs in my younger days I now find my self struggling to do heavy repairs, I like to replace a timing belt on a Nissan 3.3L engine, I have seen videos but I know I would take a very long time to do it and if my health gets worse may be impossible, I am diabetic and have heart issues. this vehicle is my only one I own but my wife has a nice car which I can borrow. A mechanic I came across does side jobs who charges $750.00 labor to do it which is a large amount for me in retirement though I can afford it. I can't guarantee my work and I expect he can. Please tell me your advice. PS: Sorry for long comment.
If it is a diesel it could be the EGR
It's one of Ford's better ideas
Someone thought maybe pulling out the filter out would solve the problem. Who would guess that?
Sounds like a timing issue-no advance
(Check title again. Thought "it" Was")
Needs a fuel pump and new filter replaced ok
You should clean up the mess caused by someone else, otherwise the owner will lock up his property.
Clean up from someone else? I have an idea, why don't YOU go clean it up?
Put up camera
Way back in the day, in my area, after many years of ' non deposit ' pop and beer bottles and people smashing them everywhere , every parking lot was a sea of glass.
A friend and I would hang out in this store lot on the main ' cruising ' drag and it had lots of glass and junk so I carried a good broom in my 57 Chevy and we would sweep up the lot where we hung out.
After a while the cops would come by and kick others out but let us hang out there.
Car makers are making junk that's hard to fix
30:14 really? R they that cheap to NOT have a air filter???
Hey Bobby9195, stop taking calls from the ex wife as she won't listen to your advice. Hello brother 'little Kenny'. Hello to Meg too. Ford and most of the other manufacturers used to make things simple to work on (1960's and into the 70's) but then they got upset with all of the emissions and safety demands by the Federal Government and California Resource's Board and went to the OBD 1, followed in 1996 with the OBD 2 system and now all of the 5 volt modules on board that control the operation of everything. Hey Kenny, you sure do go to Mexico a lot. Is the proving ground there getting visited by someone who just doesn't care and leaves their glass there? About that arm cut, I'm so glad that you healed. So, you're a medic too! Kenny, where are your gloves when pulling that pump out of the tank? I really appreciate your systematic approach to an issue like this Ford Transit had. Your experience qualifies you to be a MASTER MECHANIC/TECHNICIAN. You must be ASE Certified because you sure do know your stuff!!! I love the Fox bodied Mustang too, but 8 of them, wow. I always wanted a Mustang SSP as used by the Police. I have never understood why Ford given the history of the Mustang back to 1964 as a 1965 model hasn't always had the simpler body style like the original as a 2 door sedan instead of the fastback roof styling. I say give the customer a choice! I want to go to "Mexico" with you someday before I am done on earth! I would definitely clean the throttle body. "KEEP WRENCHING" my brother. BTW, you are also a perfectionist...not a bad thing...I am too.
Plugged catalytic converter? Haven’t watch the end of video yet.
For some stupid reason the pumps are bigger than the hole in the tank
That’s why I won’t work on Fords
In the mid 80s I tried to help a friend work on their mid 70s Mustang-II. I have refused to touch a Ford ever since. GMs and Japanese cars are my favorites to work on.
That's why I don't do eye exams on...
Why limit your monetary potential?
lol…like other vehicles don’t have these problems
@@billmalecimagine taking your vehicle to someone who only works on Chevys and whatever else LOL
Love your videos. This one was too long and boring tho …
Not questioning your life choices or anything, but should you be test driving in Mexico? 😮
Maybe a used pump from a junkyard? 27:17 😅
A brand new quality replacement from the dealer parts counter if necessary is the way to go. Don't waste your time with the junkyard.
Used fuel pump was what I was thinking, too.
Some things are worth taking a chance on, others are worth buying OEM. Consider how much fun it's NOT to drop a tank...
"It ain't got no gas in it." I would've looked at the throttle body too, just to clean it.
Not funny. My son had an Astro van stopped running. I asked "you put gas in it? Yes I put 5 gallons in it. Squirted starting fluid in the intake, starts fines so it must be a bad fuel pump. Jacked up the back end to look at the tank and found the filler hose disconnected, someone tried to siphon the tank. Not sure how my son failed to notice gas splashing on his shoes when he tried to fill the tank.
At about 2:00 minutes: people can't respect others when they don't even respect themselves. The need to at least be tought some decency.
Hang in there and keep on showing the better side.
It’s those “people” did the trashing. There is something in the human spirit that makes us angry when there is such little respect shown for our world.
AT FORD quality is job one.