Volvo EX90: It’s electric but it ain’t a Volvo.
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- MotoMan drives the first ever three row EV from @VolvoCars which may look a lot like a futuristic Volvo XC90 with over 500 HP but from behind the wheel, he learns the all new Volvo EX90 Twin Motor Performance is very different from any Volvo that came before it in unexpected ways
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Volvos aren't boxy. This isn't the 1980s. The S90 is in no way boxy and neither is the S60. The XC90 has a wagonish shape but it is still less boxy than say a Telluride. The EX90 looks like an electric Volvo inside and out. It drives a bit sportier. It's more expensive. That's the way things are as time progresses. Too soft, there is a firmer setting. The XC90 sometimes had harsh inputs. Volvo needed to make it plusher. So, I don't know. Interesting review.
But most people’s image of Volvo is boxy because recent few generations which is not boxy is after they became a Chinese company. The best days of Volvo was before that.
Most Volvos today are body … they sell very few sedans
@@ks-vq5er Volvo is not a Chinese company. They are a company owned by a China-based company but they remain a Swedish company ran out of Gothenburg, Sweden. At the high levels, their executives are Europeans. The parent company, Geely, finances Volvo and maybe approves budgets for things but there is nobody at Geely running Volvo.
I think Volvo is doing way better now than earlier, like in the Ford years. And Volvos were not boxy after the P2 cars of the 2000s. The 2001 Volvo s60 was not boxy. The 1990-2006 Volvo s80 was not boxy. The Volvo s40 was not boxy. Boxy Volvos ended with those cars. The 200 and 700 series were boxy and the 800 series rounded out the boxiness some but they were still boxy.
The current Volvos are chiseled and stylish, not boxy. The XC60 is not boxy. The XC40 is kind of boxy but not really. The XC90 has more of a general large SUV shape to it and that by definition is on the boxy side, but not so much as say a Kia Telluride.
V60 is the best looking Kombi ever👍😉
The rest of the world does not experience the typical Scandinavian weather, a glass roof without sunshades is not a pleasant experience during summer time in many parts of the world. It's certainly an odd decision to drop the shades.
Strong point!
@@MotoManTV on a completely different note, M, Nissan just announced the next generation Patrol in Abu Dhabi and they brought Brother Alfonso to do the demonstration.
I saw the IG post of his flight from HND to AUH. Saw him last month @ Pebble. After many years, we both had the opportunity to meet our respective better halves.
@@MotoManTV he is a cool dude, I enjoyed your interviews with him over the years.
You can buy a shade with the vehicle for about $150
Volvo isn’t considered a premium brand? Referring Volvo “better than Kia” seems harsh.
It's definitely not luxury, but premium. Well, Ford had it in their Premium Automotive Group back in the day, so maybe they've slipped a bit. This is the Chinese-ification of Volvo's lineup that was inevitable.
Volvo is luxury. At least that’s how automotive sales organizations classify their sales in the US.
Positioning wise, probably more like Acura, Lexus and Audi than BMw or Mercedes.
Yes, I need a firm and sporty ride on my 7 seater 3 tonne SUV. Please volvo why dont you listen to automotive journalists!!!
Yeah, gotta have that canyon carving potential. A must have. Those greenish looking people in the back row are really loving it, I can assure you.
Looks great but idk who would buy this at that price
That is when buyers have to just not buying it. Look at the new Tacoma! Just collecting dust at dealers.
I don’t care for the front grill. The price is insane, but the issue will be how much the manufacturer is subsidizing the lease price, because most of these will be leased not purchased.
They've got a list of sucke-, er potential clients, that I'm sure Geely would share with you for a few sheckels.
Volvo owners who are already going beyond 80K for an XC90.
I own a 2022 XC90 Recharge and you nailed this review. The panoramic roof without a sliding shade might even be a deal killer for me. My only disagreement with your opinion is the ride needing to be firmer. Volvo has proven over the last 10 years that they struggle with developing a firm but well damped suspension. My XC90 rides like a wagon in the city. I would gladly trade on-road dynamics for an old man plush suspension for the stop and go driving that 90% of us do on a daily basis. Also, my wife is Greek, so now I get your personality much better and I forgive you;)
XC90 without Recharge can get me 600 miles on fill up , what does this do with 500 hp ????
Appreciate the forgiveness:) To clarify, the soft tuning degrades the ride quality.
@@MotoManTV I haven't found that to be the case with most reviews. Most reviews say the car is well controlled and supple. But people have different preferences to ride comfort.
Same here, good observation! Own the current generation XC90 and I wish it had a plush ride. Glad they fixed it in EX90.
I just wish they made an affordable electric Estate like the v60 or even smaller but everyone wants SUVs these days...
Agreed 💯
The plug in hybrid xc 90 works just fine for me. $95k for a electric Volvo is Range Rover prices 😔
Not bad but that front needs some remodeling in my opinion. Interior is what we are getting used to these days... front screen + central screen + some gimmicky knobs + nothing else. Seems like an ok car but modern cars end up looking the same and i hate that.
Given the user interface and the ride, my guess is they were aiming directly at the chinese market
It's the largest EV market in the world, it would be quite foolish to ignore it.
@@cbotten106 Sure, but there's a difference between ignoring a market and not tailoring a vehicle specifically to it.
Everything that’s luxury is building directly for the Chinese market. Literally the biggest market for every single luxury brand. Only thing being built for America are pickup trucks and fast food.
Whether it’s BMW, Hermes, or Tiffany - they exclusively focus on China first.
Not really. Volvo aims it at Europe and North America though it is kind of large in Europe.
@@benjaminsmith2287Not for EVs. China is the market. Even Scandinavia is larger. You still think hybrid is the thing. Where we were 5 years ago
The car sat waiting for production for years and it’s a shame they didn’t fix the little things pointed out here that are glaringly obvious.
For a company that says they're so obsessed with safety, where are the hard buttons and knobs to operate often used controls without looking at them? Like every eevee, this looks confusing and distracting to use. Volvo is dead.
and what are those often used controls?
@@mavi57climate controls, heated seats, radio?
Owned two loaded XC-40s in a row here, one still in the driveway. Wife loves her XC-40. But Volvo seems to be going in the wrong direction. It feels a bit like watching a butterfly transform into a caterpillar. They might surprise me with the next XC-40, but right now I don't believe there will ever be another Geely/Volvo in our garage.
Based on what? Better materials, better infotainment, better build quality, better active safety? Whats the wrong direction here?
Volvo has evolved, but not everybody has evolved like Volvo
Future epidode idea: This vehicle is 6,000+ pounds, and there are so many others that are 5,000+. Eventually, any car that is less than 4,000 pounds will be unsafe, not intrinsically, but because of its weight relative to the majority of vehicles on the road. Physics.
Not eventually. Today that is the reality. You don't have to be outnumbered by a plurality of the other cars to suddenly be less safe. Agree with your line of thinking. BTW, with Climate Crisis which is the reason for the move to electric vehicles, the sustainability of the whole car, not just the operation is critical. But if all cars require too much emissions to build in a zero carbon scenario, why are we accepting this round of massive EVs that undermine the production emissions. The Rivian R1T represents 39 tons CO2e to produce, and that's Rivian's admission after performing a Life Cycle Assessment and burying that number in an unlabeled graph. But the worldwide per capita CO2e emissions annual budget in a zero carbon world is 2 tons per year (allowing for natural drawdown from nature/plants). But that CO2e budget includes everything, food, shelter, clothing, shared buildings, shared infrastructure, junk you currently buy that isn't essential, the military... everything. So it's preposterous to imaging that either car companies can shrink the production emission quickly to fit in our budget, or we'll spend our emissions budget on 3 row 6000 lb. SUVs with 100+kWh batteries.
Hummer EV wins!
That's a very juicy blackberry there at $93K! The long delay in releasing this would concern me. Those multi levels of sub-menus could well be a deal breaker. I appreciate your going into the third row intrepid reviewer!
I tried bribing my 11 year old nephew with the promise of NFL tickets but he wouldn't take the bait.
The Swedish say something is “Lagom.” This is the opposite….
The lack of legroom is. The 2nd and 3rd row is so disappointing for such a large family vehicle! I was really excited for this car, but the high price and small interior are disappointing.
I have owned 2 modern Volvos. Not interested in any more.
I disagree with your comment on ride and handling. I own a current XC 90 generation and rough and harsh ride quality is my biggest complaint. I’m actually glad they made it softer.
In 2019 when my wife bought her XC90, Volvo seemed to positioned it's cars below the German luxury brands which was reflected in its vehicle prices, and as such they got our money. Over the ensuing years it seems Volvo wanted to move upmarket and position its vehicles on par with the German luxury brands, and increased its vehicle prices accordingly - and Audi got our money. I agree, Volvo isn't on par with the German luxury brands, but there's no shame in that and not everyone wants that.
In Europe Volvo is now largely regarded as the equal of and now often better than German marques in terms of perceived quality and premium positioning. In some markets that's particularly true.
You got the nicest colour of the reviewers! ;)
Thank you!
Looks like Volvo had lost it's core identity by not knowing and delivering the reason why Volvo buyers buy their product
This looks nice. As an owner of an XC60, I can see that Volvo does not want electric adoption in the USA for some reason that I do not understand. The 2025.5 XC 90 looks great, but it will have less power than the EX90. Maybe if Volvo had just electrified the XC platform and stopped there, it all would have made a lot more sense, and they would have sold more cars in the USA.
Used to have an S60 2.4T with inline 5 and loved it. This is not the Volvo I used to love. North of 90K and you cant get leather? Are car companies seriously trying to piss on their tradional customers with these prices
Leather although nice and plush is overrated and long due for a step change. It burns in the summer and feels cold in the winter. Wool/nubuck/new type of textile is preferrable
As an owner of a 2001 S60 T5 and a XC90 T8, they are the same Volvo. Restrained design, great safety + materials, and simple UX.
You don’t need to get an EX90 unless you want all electric. You can still get the XC90 (and leather with it) and pay less.
@@TD-zc4zi I feel the same way. Today's Volvos feel like evolutions of previous Volvos. And I think Polestars also feel like Volvos, just with a sportier tune. I have a 2002 s80 and I've driven most of the new Volvos. The robustness of the body structure, the particular feel of the seats, the materials, the way they are damped, feel a particular way and nothing has changed dramatically about them even with the change of ownership.
This is not a chinese car, its designed by swedish and british engineers made in the US. it is a Volvo 100 percent
Your experience vs Rory from autotrader, in terms of driving, is like the polar opposite. See what I did there? 😂
This would be a good discussion with my wife regarding "What is a Volvo?" While I grew up with Buicks and Cadillacs, she grew up in Boston with a family that lived with multiple Volvo wagons. She even totaled one of my favorites, a black Turbo Wagon belonging to her mother when she hit a patch of black ice and spiraled into a Honda Accord (driven by another young woman who had owned it all of THREE DAYS). And yes, the Volvo saved her life. But I have to wonder if she would recognize the brand she grew up with after all these years, even with her preference of EVs.
INCREDIBLY good question, Rick! Always knew you were a Cadillac man but didn't know that a Buick past shaped your life as well:)
@@MotoManTV Oh, there are a number of important Buicks in my family. My father met my mother while he owned a '63 Buick Riviera he bought right out of med school. I got brought home from the hospital in that car. And in '67, he traded it for a '67 Riv. Both are modern design classics and I'd kill to have either of those cars again. He also drove a '68 Opel Kadett that the Buick dealerships sold in the last year of his sadly abbreviated life. His sister had a '72 Electra 225 that she kept forever.
And on my mother's side of the family, her parents had a '42 Buick Roadmaster. The story of that car was that they were vacationing with on Martha's Vineyard with dear friend Thurgood Marshall and his wife Vivian (everyone called her "Buster") and my grandmother and Buster were driving the Buick on December 7, 1941 when the news of Pearl Harbor came on the radio and my grandmother just became emotional and had to stop the car because she knew her husband (a young doctor) would get called to war. And he was...to Pearl Harbor.
A black turbo wagon is literally what the EX90 relates most too. Big power, more on the back wheels, soft suspension and a focus on safety and materials. Whats missing?
Boston is still all Volvos. Every other car felt like it was an XC60/90.
The truth is Volvo isn’t selling any better before geely brought it and wish all Volvo were made is Sweden but Volvo is doing lot better since geely put alots of money into it.
Volvo has set the standard for interior comfort and sound system...not so much for reliable powertrains. Electric could be a very good thing for customer experience and resale value.
Price doesn't reflect resale value, but i like exterior, interior function needs more buttons not touch screen, favourite is wool seats, option is having woolclasser stencil stitch into seats identifying where wool come from.
It does have USB-C ports in the third row.
Volvo is a direct competitor to bmw audi merc in my eyes, and actually good value for money. I would compare this to a bmw ix or Q8 e-tron
It has those 3rd row USB-C ports. Just have to look harder. They're there.
Volvo actually offers a ridiculous detachable sunshade for the sunroof - epic fail. Really????
Based on an IONIQ 5 with a similar 0 to 60 I would say less power is not the solution for the suspension power ratio, but rather an adaptive suspension that is tuned to the power. This will need all that power to haul a fully loaded vehicle. I agree with your assessment of the infotainment screen. I don’t mind an interface well organized to craft a bazillion settings but honestly, these are not meant for adjustments on the fly. Why they did that with the window switches is beyond me because you might as well remove them all and set the vehicle up so I have to say hey Volvo roll down the second row passenger window 1/4 to make it less irritating. 14:53
Interesting note: Saw the 2025 IONIQ 5 in person last week and they listened: Hard buttons for the seat heat/vent as well as some others. No longer buried in the menu! I hope Volvo engineers heed the advice as well . . .
@@MotoManTV That is a welcomed update. I just hope they add manual preconditioning as well as add cooling conditioning for charging purposes in the hot months. The better setup alone will do wonders.
Hard to follow your final thoughts with that beautiful AC in the back but have to agree. In any case going that minimalistic on buttons is a big problem for me. Hazards and a few more buttons must be 'no look' exactly for safety reasons whatever their reasons are. They are not tesla and am not sure why theybate trying to play their game.
And I'm not sold on the front. As one who is in s/v60 camp, last gen is perfect for me, but this direction is not my cup of tea.
Amazing car
Alright Big Greek OG, I know Tesla is “He Who Shall Not Be Named” in your world but Rivian absolutely did not birth the EV Baby Buggy segment. That would be Tesla and the Model X. You have to give the company not the weird guy that runs it credit for breaking into the segment back in late 2015. Fair is fair OG.
Not certain what 'world' you are referring to or perhaps you are new to the show but I have been pretty clear about Tesla . . . ruclips.net/video/EENidFYAAZo/видео.html
Does Nissan and Volvo share a design shaped logo now or is it just my perception ?.
I love my Volvo xc40 recharge
I'm at the least very very close to subscribing b/c I value your candor/straight talk/etc. This is not a vehicle to be fawned over (for way too many reasons....ugh look at that freakin magnifying glass roof. I do agree that blackcurrant color is stunning. And being built in the Lowcountry almost but definitely doesn't make up for the being owned by CCP :/ 10:35 good one btw 😊
Welcome to our little club!
3,0TD + gas CNG= DDF Super!!! Electric - Fuck
"Goofy kaboofi UX" learned a new term which I wasn't aware of - I am here to learn thank you😉 the car is not very appealing to my taste, I prefer the Kia over the Volvo. Its running too soft? No adaptive ride enough?
1.) Thank you . . . more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki
2.) As to your question and to clarify to other commenters: The ride quality is not composed enough for a car/SUV trying to be premium. Feels too parts bin, not cohesive.
@@MotoManTV Thank you so much ! Great service from the source.
NO Real Leather Seats, it'll stay in the showroom.
Please share with us "ride-alongs" in your personal cars. Would love to hear your pros/cons, etc.
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It ain't a Volvo because it's a Geely
Make the 3rd row more usable and drop the price 🤦🏽♂️
elektrosmog fire trap
For me there is no Volvo anymore, After Geely bought Volvo we can see it becoming more Chinese, and thats why Volvo is dead to me!
They were bought by Geely, but I agree. And the new ones are unreliable junk. I have friends who work for Volvo and the horror stories they tell me are insane.
Cool story.
@@cincyrovers thanks for correction!
My XC90 is made in Sweden and your truck is made in Mexico, so do you drive a Mexican truck?
lmao who did Geely buy Volvo from? Ford. Was Volvo becoming too american under Ford too? Such BS
The last “boxy” Volvo was the S70. From 1999. 25 years ago. Time to move on with that dead narrative.
To me its a Polestar............
Hate for tesla so much he skip the model x 😂
Wool seats! 🐑
Good rivian r1s competitor… but again priced way too much for the average joe or larger families that may need a 3row… Even Kia Ev9 is high priced… but more “reasonable” for average someone looking for a 3 row. I don’t know where Volvo falls between brands like Kia, Lexus/acura, Germans or Land Rover
It's a European premium car that is priced a bit lower than the German lux cars and maybe something like Lexus. It's above Kia as Kia is mainstream. Genesis would be Volvo competition. Land Rover is a higher premium brand for the most part.
Kia looks dated already and the Volvo is timeless.
@@ScoobyFermentation yes Kia/Hyundai change their designs so dramatically, such that their former designs looks dated really fast. I don’t like that.
The Lucid Gravity will destroy this when it gets released.
Volvo EM 90 please. It's better than Toyota Alphard And Lexus LM 350
I’d rather have an Alphard
Maybe, but reliability and experience are with Toyota. Maybe in 5 years I can think about getting anything besides Toyota or Lexus plug in.
As a SPA XC90 T8 driver with R-Trim, I would pass The EX90 from about 20miles, and this after 3 continued previous volvo models owned, I have 4 children, and I think this model is to lame, soft and dull
IT LOOKS LIKE A TAXI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIP volvo
Another Chinese EV car…