I bought a turbo levo at the end of April. I had to wait for snow to melt to ride it. It had a couple glitches but they are working themselves out. In eco I can ride thousands of feet in elevation and get more than 6 hours on the battery.
I own both, 23’ Levo Comp carbon and 21’ Trek Rail 9.7 carbon. I prefer the Levo myself. Rail a great backup bike however and nice to be back on full 29 st times. Personally, I think the Levo is mich more dialed and refined as a package. The frame has been solid for me, whereas front and resr triangle has been replaced by Trek along with three complete drive/motor units. Only one drive unit and battery warranty replacement with Levo after 1 heavy year of riding. Bosch is a bit more consistent in motor performance output over time however, compared to Brose. The RIB system is aweful and I would never own a RIB systemed bike again despite it’s battery removal convenience. I removed my battery all the time on Levo in just a minute, so no big deal
Nice that Spesh has your back for any frame or motor issues as well under one roof at the authorized dealers/service centers, whereas Trek has to go to Bosch for any issues and wait on their response for anything
2 servicing dealers in my town so it comes down to the rail and the levo. Mullet concerns me as I love my XC 29'er, although in the parking lot I didn't notice anything super negative with the 27.5 trailing. Not having a way to test them on a real trail near me is my hang up on spending $5-6k+. Appreciate your video and comparison!
@@ebikesandthings I mean they do have good EMTBs but the fact thats only online and their 720wh is always out of stock would probably wait 6-8 months before you can get a spare is a deal breaker. Theres alot of good options with good specs for price between 5-7K. Overall love the levo! 🤘🍻
@@ebikesandthings I'm in the north east, there is a huge trek store not too far from me, they do a good business on the e-bikes, people come from far away to go there
My uk dealer has lots of spare motors in stock so any issues and straight swap with new motor on the specialized! Heard bosh have waiting lists for 3 months for new motors 😮
Ok ya said bigger guy and I saw 5’-10”. What type of weight are you? I’m 6’-7” and about 250 lbs. based on the size chart Trek’s does make XXL but Specialized says I’m size S6 which they make.
Definitely the best playful e-bike on the market, but stock fox suspension really sucks. My fork bled every ride till I changed it to Zeb, and thinking of replacing the rear with Vivid air or coil, when the size is in stock. I've tried 29/29 wheels, they lose all playfully and feel exactly like a Rail, and the space between the frame and rear tire is super small, even with 2.4 tires, any rock easily can damage the frame in that case. so, after I broke that 29 rim on a trail, I've ordered 27.5 again and it feels perfect now.
Great review although I disagree with you on carbon versus aluminum I'm a heavier Rider with power and I kept cracking aluminum frames by the bottom bracket and I had a bike shop tell me to go to carbon and that was 10 years ago and I haven't cracked a frame since
I have gen 4 Trek rail 9.8 but upgraded. My friend has Turbo levo carbon frame with all the upgrades you can think of. You cant go wrong with either. I prefer rail more because of the looks, size and feel. But both bikes are incredible. Though i lean towards rail. For Bosch motor, i think its preference thing. That turbo power on bosch is love and life imo. But i agree bosch motor is a powerhouse and you feel it. But idk on my rail on eco mode it feels like normal bike. Also on bosch app you can i believe change settings however you like it. But as for suspension, i totally agree. The factory setup i got with rail had the superdeluxe select+ and i absolute despised that shock. I also have slash with ultimate thrushaft and its night and day. So i changed my rail shock to vivid air and its awesome.
@@spawnrcandbikes Yeah, changed to manual bike yesterday. I tried my 2022 Trek slash 9.8 XT. Its top of the line bike. But it felt horrible to change from ebike. As if the breaks were on all the time. Felt like there was something wrong with the bike honestly. I think turbo mode changed my nervous system. CX line is a powerhouse.
@2:34 you mention “A bright sunny day.” You are totally in the shade I can see the reflection of the trees in the display overhead. You can also see all of the shade being cast on the ground. Try actually getting outside in the actual sun my guy! But who is looking at the freezing display whilst riding? Crank it up and send it!
Great Vid. Thanks fir sharing your experience.
Thanks good sir! Appreciate the sub.
what is a suspension token? Is it a preload thing? nice review. looking hard at buying a Turbo Levo Comp.
The token just reduces the air chamber so refuses how much air you can put in, you will definitely be happy with a Levo.
I bought a turbo levo at the end of April. I had to wait for snow to melt to ride it. It had a couple glitches but they are working themselves out. In eco I can ride thousands of feet in elevation and get more than 6 hours on the battery.
I own both, 23’ Levo Comp carbon and 21’ Trek Rail 9.7 carbon. I prefer the Levo myself. Rail a great backup bike however and nice to be back on full 29 st times. Personally, I think the Levo is mich more dialed and refined as a package. The frame has been solid for me, whereas front and resr triangle has been replaced by Trek along with three complete drive/motor units. Only one drive unit and battery warranty replacement with Levo after 1 heavy year of riding. Bosch is a bit more consistent in motor performance output over time however, compared to Brose. The RIB system is aweful and I would never own a RIB systemed bike again despite it’s battery removal convenience. I removed my battery all the time on Levo in just a minute, so no big deal
After owning the same bikes as you I totally agree 👍
Nice that Spesh has your back for any frame or motor issues as well under one roof at the authorized dealers/service centers, whereas Trek has to go to Bosch for any issues and wait on their response for anything
2 servicing dealers in my town so it comes down to the rail and the levo. Mullet concerns me as I love my XC 29'er, although in the parking lot I didn't notice anything super negative with the 27.5 trailing. Not having a way to test them on a real trail near me is my hang up on spending $5-6k+. Appreciate your video and comparison!
Was about to order the rear mudguard!. Any tips on how to win one from your channel ?😆
Haha good idea, commenting on this video gets you entered. Will pick in a week : )
Nicee ! ! Do keep sharing any discount codes (if any) in future! Cheers & thanks mate ! 🤙🏻
Nice review! Just got mine yesterday same color combo with a huge discounted price! 😈
Thanks! You will love it.
@@ebikesandthings Best decision ive made on EMTB. Was choosing between YT decoy core 5 and Giant reign E+ 1
@@Fullsend08 My first bike I wanted the Decoy, I heard horror stories about warranty.
@@ebikesandthings I mean they do have good EMTBs but the fact thats only online and their 720wh is always out of stock would probably wait 6-8 months before you can get a spare is a deal breaker. Theres alot of good options with good specs for price between 5-7K. Overall love the levo! 🤘🍻
I would go with the Trek only because of the dealer network, think there would be less down time in the case of motor failure.
I don’t know where you are located but that’s why I went with Specialized, more dealers than Trek.
@@ebikesandthings I'm in the north east, there is a huge trek store not too far from me, they do a good business on the e-bikes, people come from far away to go there
My uk dealer has lots of spare motors in stock so any issues and straight swap with new motor on the specialized! Heard bosh have waiting lists for 3 months for new motors 😮
In UK specialized has best dealers network,waiting time for new engine doesn't exceed 5 days
@@Emtbwebbyeah but your not changing motors every year
Ok ya said bigger guy and I saw 5’-10”. What type of weight are you? I’m 6’-7” and about 250 lbs. based on the size chart Trek’s does make XXL but Specialized says I’m size S6 which they make.
Definitely the best playful e-bike on the market, but stock fox suspension really sucks. My fork bled every ride till I changed it to Zeb,
and thinking of replacing the rear with Vivid air or coil, when the size is in stock. I've tried 29/29 wheels, they lose all playfully and feel exactly like a Rail, and the space between the frame and rear tire is super small, even with 2.4 tires, any rock easily can damage the frame in that case. so, after I broke that 29 rim on a trail, I've ordered 27.5 again and it feels perfect now.
Thanks for the info, definitely great points.
How is the motor? You haven't had any problems with the motor on this bike right?
No issues, very quiet and strong.
I checked both and Levo felt much better.
Great job !Thank you very much!
No problem 😉
Okay, you talked me into it. Ordered a Sicomtb rear mudguard today. 👍
Haha I am giving away a few here in next few weeks, you definitely won’t be disappointed.
Ordered the RRP mini v2 one's for mine both front one with fix mount one without for the rear the front looks great on the rear and covers the pivots
Great review although I disagree with you on carbon versus aluminum I'm a heavier Rider with power and I kept cracking aluminum frames by the bottom bracket and I had a bike shop tell me to go to carbon and that was 10 years ago and I haven't cracked a frame since
So in your experience carbon has been more reliable? I’m a big guy and I’m not sure if I should get carbon or aluminum.
So in your experience carbon has been more reliable? I’m a big guy and I’m not sure if I should get carbon or aluminum.
What is Your height?
5 feet 11
@@ebikesandthings thx.
That is a tidy rear mudguard.
Sure is! I love how it’s molded to the frame so then you can still run big tires, I still can use the 2.6 with plenty of clearance.
I have gen 4 Trek rail 9.8 but upgraded. My friend has Turbo levo carbon frame with all the upgrades you can think of. You cant go wrong with either. I prefer rail more because of the looks, size and feel. But both bikes are incredible. Though i lean towards rail.
For Bosch motor, i think its preference thing. That turbo power on bosch is love and life imo. But i agree bosch motor is a powerhouse and you feel it. But idk on my rail on eco mode it feels like normal bike. Also on bosch app you can i believe change settings however you like it.
But as for suspension, i totally agree. The factory setup i got with rail had the superdeluxe select+ and i absolute despised that shock. I also have slash with ultimate thrushaft and its night and day. So i changed my rail shock to vivid air and its awesome.
All great points! I agree that both bikes are amazing and can’t go wrong with either one. Cheers 🍻
yeah i got a cannondale with bosch cx motor 750 battery...the turbo mode rips up the hills and display system is awesome....
@@spawnrcandbikes Yeah, changed to manual bike yesterday. I tried my 2022 Trek slash 9.8 XT. Its top of the line bike. But it felt horrible to change from ebike. As if the breaks were on all the time. Felt like there was something wrong with the bike honestly. I think turbo mode changed my nervous system. CX line is a powerhouse.
Love it
@@RAMcIntosh Thanks 🙏
Specialized needs a more compact motor.
@2:34 you mention “A bright sunny day.” You are totally in the shade I can see the reflection of the trees in the display overhead. You can also see all of the shade being cast on the ground. Try actually getting outside in the actual sun my guy!
But who is looking at the freezing display whilst riding? Crank it up and send it!
Or get a proper bike
The bike I just built would cost a lot more buying from factory! I saved me a lot of money and made it how I like it.
@@ebikesandthingsi think he meant get a proper non- electrified bikes
Nice bike, disregard the roadie commenting on things he knows nothing about.
@@charlesy8328😆😆😆