@@josejkoonthanam Hi there J! The neem works quite well, I still have a bottle or two but don't plan to use it for a while. Too much/thick layer of oil based stuff in addition with strong artificual lights eventually gives a quite yellow-spotted looking leaves. Now showering off is needed and spray with a milder leaf invigourating spray instead. Maybe next year its time for the neem again. The bugs get resistant. I went to amazon yesterday and bought yellow sticker and a sort of kind systemic just in case.
hey karin, good to see you got the courage to try it. That is how I felt trying it too I suppose. It's good to see quite a few other growers using it. I know a few have recommended insect sprays but there are just too many different types and sprays are all tailored for just a few insects. I am fairly confident I have eliminated thrips here but now that the thrips are gone I've been able to spot mites easier and they are just as much of a pain to get rid of. I suspect they infect an entire area so even if you treat a plant and then put it back if you don't treat the whole area all in one go then the mites just crawl back so it really is tricky no matter what product we use. I have since increased the amount I use to 40ml per liter, just like you tried a bit more too. Some of these mites must be able to hide in sheaths and crevices where moisture can't reach. Just seems to be never ending as a result but fingers crossed we beat it one day lol. I can recommend domestos original in the blue bottle. It might be a bit more expensive but it has less perfumated additives and is really thick to make the water foam. But as long as it works and doesn't damage the plants. Like 40ml is needed to be 100% effective, it can start to damage some roots on more sensitive species I've found. Sometimes a plant is just too far gone to be able to save it. Anyway good luck. Hope this plant does recover. I find keeping it moist afterwards is important to promote new root growth. You did pick a candidate that might already be too far gone though. It's really hard to tell how they will react or if they really are completely clear after a treatment.
Thank's again Tom for the advice/suggestion to use it! I'm working out a plan that hopefully will work for atleast me and my collection. Unfortunately treating em all with bleach now in one go wont be reality I'm afraid . .that spare vacation time I used for spraying them all with my orange oil. Back to work tomorrow...less time on my hands again. .Which work quite satisfactory for about 2-3 weeks then the thrips start multiplying again. In ( hopefully ) tonights video I will use the bleach again, and problably in 2 more videos on a couple of far gone plants. Hope you had some good days this summer 2!thank's a lot for watching/commenting T! 😍
Hi Karin, From the Bronx NY! I have done the bleacher treatment as well. From Ed’s Orchids for bad infestation is amazing. Thanks for doing this video. 👏👏👏
Acetamiprid works great against thrips, the thing that keeps it from working in the nurseries is that they keep the flowers and buds. You have to remove all buds and flowers because that’s the favorite place of thrips. The systemic insecticide can’t quite reach the flowers because they are not as well supplied as the rest of the orchid. If you treat all your plants at the time, you could get of thrips all together. Boisduval scale is harder to get rid of because just watering with systemic insecticides is not enough. The only thing that worked for me was unpotting the orchid and wiping everything with alcohol several times, removing all scales and soaking the entire thing in systemic insecticides.
@@harehhearas7054 Hi there! Thank's for stopping bye here to wiev this video! 😍😍 Well, all systemic pesticides are forbidden here within the EU.. maybe if lucky one can try ebay or amazon but I unfortunately doubt it. I've noticed a dramatically change of decline to the plants I've bought from within the EU the last couple of years. Loads of earwigs/slugs inside the medium belonging to the new purchased orchids. Oily solutions are great to a certain extent...then it will only cause damage to the tissue and leaf duscoloration and spottings. The nasty little creatures gets used to every new thing you try as well and drenching an orchid in oily stuff too frequently is a bad idea. My old fogger will be back on the shelf first thing tomorrow as thrips hate humidity. And more frequent showerings. Thank's for the tip, I will definately look for that substance! 😀😀
@@KarinsOrchids systemic insecticides are still allowed in the EU, they are just not sold anymore for ecological reasons. Acetamiprid is still allowed for private users and can be bought as a spray. You can still get the granules that dissolve in water called Mospilan from Eastern Europe. Since it is legal in the EU the import and usage is permitted in the entire EU I think. Yeah, I’ve noticed snails in pretty much all plants I receive. Especially those stupid coconut blocks are fully of them. Those bush snails are such a big problem because they require a complete repot to eradicate, which will mess up Cattleyas pretty badly.
@@harehhearas7054 Many thank's for this useable info!! First off today I will get my huge humidifier working again. Fingers crossed now I can find the substance you suggest. 6 years wait for a cattleya to bloom only to be fed to the thrips. But atleast the orangeoil works well for spraying on buds and blooms to stop the attack. 😀😀
@@harehhearas7054 I searced google and anazon now and found granules calle aceprid, 20% soluable in water for 30 liters of ready mixed spray solution. Is one spraying enough?
Hello Karin, here in Italy there is a really important orchid grower who says that bleach is the only chimical liquid that is able to completely destroyed dna. That's way all the cleaning and disinfecting producted has bleach in it. Soo it makes sense what you did. I use a diy insecticide natural with my 270 orchids and I'm really happy about it. Thank you for your interesting video.
@@daniatortelli5995 Hi there thank's for watching! At first I didn't dare to use the bleach but eventually I didn't have a choise... either or throw away my totosö collection 🤪
The never ending battle against the nasties😂. I got a product from Edialux called conserve garden, haven't used it yet, but it was highly recommended by EJ from the orchid saga, so I will give it a try when I see some thrips👍
@@justinsdutchtropics Hi there! Thanks for stopping bye here! He suggested me to get it as well some time ago, even offered to ship some of it to me 😍, but as I couldn't get it from the NL myself I just didn't wanna be stuck liking a product I never could rebuy again in case of some sepeated treatments were needed. You see my point. I tried to buy it even but failed 🤣🤣
@@justinsdutchtropics Yes, Fount it at only 1 webshop but it didn't say what the shipping cost would be and they didn't answer to my email and it was extremely expensive so.. but it will be better after liads of work results will show!
Thank you for yet another informative and inspiring video Karin! ✨Have you experienced slugs and how do you get rid of them? I have miniature orchids in a terrarium and can't get rid of them as they seem to reproduce vigorously 🥺
@@asp921 Hi there my friend! Well not me in person since they fortunately cannot (yet) climb the 10 meter high brick wall up to my balcony..though earwigs and wood-louse could so.. but nmmy dad and sister's got severe problems with slugs and snails in their gardens, even my local orchid vendor's got huge problems gettkng rid of them but I've heared about adding a few slices of raw peeled potatoes amongst your plants. So the snails chooses the potatoes over the plants due to its sweet taste.. or put a few cans of beer all over the place.. but I dud find a copper tejp. The snails rejects it and won't pass. 😀
A few weeks ago I tried the bleach bucket method on three Cattleya severely infected with Boisduvale scale. Here in Germany I get the Domestos that Ed uses and of course I accidentally used a much higher dose than he recommended. All plants were left in the bleach solution for 15 minutes and scrubbed thoroughly with a toothbrush. Unfortunately, the pests came back on all three plants, so they have now ended up in organic waste. I have generally resorted to disposing of infected plants, and some of my C. dowiana will probably also suffer this fate...
@@mfle3407 Ahhh...sorry to hear... My old dowiana went the very same way last week ( recorded a video on the disposable ones...The ones to go..) so they actually came back then...? Grr
Hej, good luck with this poor plant. My huge tibicinis, look-a-like from the one in your botanical garden, froze last winter. In spring of 2023 I repotted her into this Seramis-bark mix and used a heavy terracotta bowl. It was in the backyard all summer and got two new growths and ants moved into the older bulbs. When fall came I put her on the windowsill in the staircase. I was sure that nothing can go wrong as my steghorn fern and a zig-zag-cactus live there all the time. Non of them is in terracotta. First the root tips died off and then the latest growths lost their leaves and got mushy within short, not the previous bulbs which were close to the glass. I even had a thermometer there. The temps never dropped below 10. I never had to dispose such a big dead plant. The worst thing was that I woke up the ants in the oldest bulbs from their winter sleep. Didn't expect that at all. I thought they had moved out when autumn came. The only positive thing is that she had the time of her live in Summer of 2023. 🥵regards but I get already used to it. Sleep well!
@@annareiter952 Well,, yes,,, so sad when that happens. Quite a story U got there on her.. to loose a plant that size seems very very sad.. but the tibicinis blooms are really to die for.. oh so gorgeous... but I recognise the course you're presenting here... new growts rots, tatty weak new ones, new roots stop growing...exactly what happened to mine. Hope for this treatment to work well. Sounds better to only spray the leaves with bleach and shower off with pure water but guess the pit needs to go in there 2. Well good night A! Hope the rest of your stuff is growing in nicely!!
After neem oil treatment, now bleach treatment for orchids.Thanks a lot for the experience sharing video of treating thrips on orchids, Karin.
@@josejkoonthanam Hi there J! The neem works quite well, I still have a bottle or two but don't plan to use it for a while. Too much/thick layer of oil based stuff in addition with strong artificual lights eventually gives a quite yellow-spotted looking leaves. Now showering off is needed and spray with a milder leaf invigourating spray instead. Maybe next year its time for the neem again. The bugs get resistant. I went to amazon yesterday and bought yellow sticker and a sort of kind systemic just in case.
hey karin, good to see you got the courage to try it. That is how I felt trying it too I suppose. It's good to see quite a few other growers using it. I know a few have recommended insect sprays but there are just too many different types and sprays are all tailored for just a few insects. I am fairly confident I have eliminated thrips here but now that the thrips are gone I've been able to spot mites easier and they are just as much of a pain to get rid of. I suspect they infect an entire area so even if you treat a plant and then put it back if you don't treat the whole area all in one go then the mites just crawl back so it really is tricky no matter what product we use.
I have since increased the amount I use to 40ml per liter, just like you tried a bit more too. Some of these mites must be able to hide in sheaths and crevices where moisture can't reach. Just seems to be never ending as a result but fingers crossed we beat it one day lol.
I can recommend domestos original in the blue bottle. It might be a bit more expensive but it has less perfumated additives and is really thick to make the water foam. But as long as it works and doesn't damage the plants.
Like 40ml is needed to be 100% effective, it can start to damage some roots on more sensitive species I've found. Sometimes a plant is just too far gone to be able to save it.
Anyway good luck. Hope this plant does recover. I find keeping it moist afterwards is important to promote new root growth. You did pick a candidate that might already be too far gone though. It's really hard to tell how they will react or if they really are completely clear after a treatment.
Thank's again Tom for the advice/suggestion to use it! I'm working out a plan that hopefully will work for atleast me and my collection. Unfortunately treating em all with bleach now in one go wont be reality I'm afraid . .that spare vacation time I used for spraying them all with my orange oil. Back to work tomorrow...less time on my hands again. .Which work quite satisfactory for about 2-3 weeks then the thrips start multiplying again. In ( hopefully ) tonights video I will use the bleach again, and problably in 2 more videos on a couple of far gone plants.
Hope you had some good days this summer 2!thank's a lot for watching/commenting T! 😍
Hi Karin, From the Bronx NY! I have done the bleacher treatment as well. From Ed’s Orchids for bad infestation is amazing. Thanks for doing this video. 👏👏👏
@@ileanavalerio3637 Thank you! Have you tried it for vandas as well? No leaf damage?
Acetamiprid works great against thrips, the thing that keeps it from working in the nurseries is that they keep the flowers and buds. You have to remove all buds and flowers because that’s the favorite place of thrips. The systemic insecticide can’t quite reach the flowers because they are not as well supplied as the rest of the orchid.
If you treat all your plants at the time, you could get of thrips all together.
Boisduval scale is harder to get rid of because just watering with systemic insecticides is not enough. The only thing that worked for me was unpotting the orchid and wiping everything with alcohol several times, removing all scales and soaking the entire thing in systemic insecticides.
@@harehhearas7054 Hi there! Thank's for stopping bye here to wiev this video! 😍😍 Well, all systemic pesticides are forbidden here within the EU.. maybe if lucky one can try ebay or amazon but I unfortunately doubt it. I've noticed a dramatically change of decline to the plants I've bought from within the EU the last couple of years. Loads of earwigs/slugs inside the medium belonging to the new purchased orchids. Oily solutions are great to a certain extent...then it will only cause damage to the tissue and leaf duscoloration and spottings. The nasty little creatures gets used to every new thing you try as well and drenching an orchid in oily stuff too frequently is a bad idea. My old fogger will be back on the shelf first thing tomorrow as thrips hate humidity. And more frequent showerings. Thank's for the tip, I will definately look for that substance! 😀😀
@@KarinsOrchids systemic insecticides are still allowed in the EU, they are just not sold anymore for ecological reasons. Acetamiprid is still allowed for private users and can be bought as a spray. You can still get the granules that dissolve in water called Mospilan from Eastern Europe. Since it is legal in the EU the import and usage is permitted in the entire EU I think.
Yeah, I’ve noticed snails in pretty much all plants I receive. Especially those stupid coconut blocks are fully of them. Those bush snails are such a big problem because they require a complete repot to eradicate, which will mess up Cattleyas pretty badly.
@@harehhearas7054 Many thank's for this useable info!! First off today I will get my huge humidifier working again. Fingers crossed now I can find the substance you suggest. 6 years wait for a cattleya to bloom only to be fed to the thrips. But atleast the orangeoil works well for spraying on buds and blooms to stop the attack. 😀😀
@@harehhearas7054 I searced google and anazon now and found granules calle aceprid, 20% soluable in water for 30 liters of ready mixed spray solution. Is one spraying enough?
Hello Karin, here in Italy there is a really important orchid grower who says that bleach is the only chimical liquid that is able to completely destroyed dna. That's way all the cleaning and disinfecting producted has bleach in it. Soo it makes sense what you did. I use a diy insecticide natural with my 270 orchids and I'm really happy about it. Thank you for your interesting video.
@@daniatortelli5995 Hi there thank's for watching! At first I didn't dare to use the bleach but eventually I didn't have a choise... either or throw away my totosö collection 🤪
Yes it works
@@dianabonilla6361 Thank you, no cons to it then?
The never ending battle against the nasties😂. I got a product from Edialux called conserve garden, haven't used it yet, but it was highly recommended by EJ from the orchid saga, so I will give it a try when I see some thrips👍
@@justinsdutchtropics Hi there! Thanks for stopping bye here! He suggested me to get it as well some time ago, even offered to ship some of it to me 😍, but as I couldn't get it from the NL myself I just didn't wanna be stuck liking a product I never could rebuy again in case of some sepeated treatments were needed. You see my point. I tried to buy it even but failed 🤣🤣
@@KarinsOrchids Ah that's a shame, the EU is so weird sometime😂
@@justinsdutchtropics Yes, Fount it at only 1 webshop but it didn't say what the shipping cost would be and they didn't answer to my email and it was extremely expensive so.. but it will be better after liads of work results will show!
Thank you for yet another informative and inspiring video Karin! ✨Have you experienced slugs and how do you get rid of them? I have miniature orchids in a terrarium and can't get rid of them as they seem to reproduce vigorously 🥺
@@asp921 Hi there my friend! Well not me in person since they fortunately cannot (yet) climb the 10 meter high brick wall up to my balcony..though earwigs and wood-louse could so.. but nmmy dad and sister's got severe problems with slugs and snails in their gardens, even my local orchid vendor's got huge problems gettkng rid of them but I've heared about adding a few slices of raw peeled potatoes amongst your plants. So the snails chooses the potatoes over the plants due to its sweet taste.. or put a few cans of beer all over the place.. but I dud find a copper tejp. The snails rejects it and won't pass. 😀
@@KarinsOrchids hmmm, thank you Karin... sounds like it will be long hard struggle. I will just have to keep picking them out manually :(
@@asp921 That was my dads answer to all of my advice as well 😁 Indoor growers have thrips whilst outdoor growers got snails.
A few weeks ago I tried the bleach bucket method on three Cattleya severely infected with Boisduvale scale. Here in Germany I get the Domestos that Ed uses and of course I accidentally used a much higher dose than he recommended. All plants were left in the bleach solution for 15 minutes and scrubbed thoroughly with a toothbrush. Unfortunately, the pests came back on all three plants, so they have now ended up in organic waste. I have generally resorted to disposing of infected plants, and some of my C. dowiana will probably also suffer this fate...
@@mfle3407 Ahhh...sorry to hear... My old dowiana went the very same way last week ( recorded a video on the disposable ones...The ones to go..) so they actually came back then...? Grr
Hej, good luck with this poor plant. My huge tibicinis, look-a-like from the one in your botanical garden, froze last winter. In spring of 2023 I repotted her into this Seramis-bark mix and used a heavy terracotta bowl. It was in the backyard all summer and got two new growths and ants moved into the older bulbs.
When fall came I put her on the windowsill in the staircase. I was sure that nothing can go wrong as my steghorn fern and a zig-zag-cactus live there all the time. Non of them is in terracotta. First the root tips died off and then the latest growths lost their leaves and got mushy within short, not the previous bulbs which were close to the glass. I even had a thermometer there. The temps never dropped below 10.
I never had to dispose such a big dead plant. The worst thing was that I woke up the ants in the oldest bulbs from their winter sleep. Didn't expect that at all. I thought they had moved out when autumn came.
The only positive thing is that she had the time of her live in Summer of 2023.
🥵regards but I get already used to it. Sleep well!
@@annareiter952 Well,, yes,,, so sad when that happens. Quite a story U got there on her.. to loose a plant that size seems very very sad.. but the tibicinis blooms are really to die for.. oh so gorgeous... but I recognise the course you're presenting here... new growts rots, tatty weak new ones, new roots stop growing...exactly what happened to mine. Hope for this treatment to work well. Sounds better to only spray the leaves with bleach and shower off with pure water but guess the pit needs to go in there 2. Well good night A! Hope the rest of your stuff is growing in nicely!!
See Ed’s Orchid UT videos about bleach type to use. I use it it works
@@dianabonilla6361 Hi there! Yes, I watched em all but I missed a few details though such as leaf distortion and root decline etc 😀