Good video. You provided an honest but balanced review. I'm 65 and have never owned a handgun with a red dot. Relying on a gun site that needs a battery is not something I'm interested in for in a concealed carry firearm (even though they have come a long way). I think the Ready Dot on a Max 9 is a good way to test the waters to see if a red dot improves my ability to be more accurate without compromising too much speed in site acquisiton. I think if we're serious about being responsible firearm owners, we owe it to ourselves and loved ones, to look into any product that will enable us to be more accurate and safe.
I’m realizing this is meant to shoot with both eyes open. When you bring the gun up to shoot, if you can see the dot in your peripheral vision you are in target. I’m getting used to it, it sometimes takes a split second to get the dot in view, but it’s more accurate and faster than guessing or squinting with irons. I’m in need of a lot more practice with it personally
I’m liking that gun more every time I see it. Thankfully, it’s available in my state. Shooting with a red dot is much easier in the movies. 🤣 Seriously, it takes a lot of practice. Thanks!
I didn’t like this gun …and I’m gonna give it another chance changing out the trigger..replacing the guide rod and spring…getting a red dot…. It shoots without problems…but it’s the only gun I’m having problems being accurate with … I wanna like it …let’s see what happens..
Yeah I need to practice more. But because my range has a roof over the benches, there is barely enough ambient light to make the dot illuminate- but you’re right, I need to practice fast target acquisition and use the dot as a reference not precision
You did a good job on the video brother. Personally speaking I stay away from lasers and red dot optics. While they sometimes can offer an advantage there's always more that can go wrong with them and there's no substitute for good iron sight skills. That said I'm considering one of these guns, but i insist on a model with a thumb safety. There is a dealer with a sale pricing these at $269.99 and the ec9 for $229.99. Can't go wrong with either.
yeah I agree with not relying on a laser or red dot, but again, the ready dot I wanted to try becuase it has no batteries, and you can view the factory sights through it in low light conditions.
I agree, brother. I'm going to stay away from optics on my edc. I bought the Max9 two weeks ago, and im very satisfied with my purchase. 299.00 at Grabagun. I chose this firearm for the value , quality, and options im getting for my money. I look at the Sig 365, Glock 43, Springfield Hellcat,Stoger MC9, and the Canik Mete MC9. I decided on the Max 9
@@williamharris803 I have the Ready Dot on my max 9 but I keep taking it off and putting it on because I want to get used to it. I think it just takes some practice where you have to just bring The Gun up in front of your face. Keep both eyes open so you can see the dot in the window and as long as you can see the dot whatever you’re aiming at your pretty much be guaranteed to hit.
VERY good informative video brother. I like the idea of a red dot on my Max-9 BUT for most of my daily life situation > I love pocket carry soooo I'll stay with the stock sights. Thanks and God bless...
Man you aint kidding about the rain and humidity. Im skippin range just to hit the beach before the season ends. I knew we were going to pay for the easy winter we had in Mass.
I love my Max-9. I don't have an optic on mine as it is the CA compliant version but so far it has been a great pistol. Lightweight and thin and easy to conceal. A bit snappy compared to my G19 but still manageable. I definitely recommend it to anyone looking for a good budget concealed carry pistol.
@@Infected_Axe_Wound yep but it’s partially due to the view through the ready dot I was trying to line up the irons, and partially me pulling shots cause I was shooting too fast. I do tend to be more accurate with this with irons, but that is just me needing practice.
I noticed the same thing with ready dot on max 9. It claims to be zeroed at 25 yards and the POI is about 2 inches lower w Max9/ready dot combo at 7-10 yards, however, on Masada S it is dead on.
Well for $69 I get it, but for the $99 that is was supposed to cost it makes no sense. It doesn't work in low light/darkness, non adjustable, and the dot is huge. For $99 or literally a few dollars more, you can get a budget (but good) 2 or 3 moa (instead of 15moa) fully adjustable nightime working battery operated dot. And for those worried about battery life, we're talking up to 50,000 hours. If your ready dot is shooting low, I wonder if you can put a small metal shim under the front of it to tip it upward slightly...
It’s not shooting low, it me needing to get used to it. I was trying to use the dot to cover the front sight, that’s why I was hitting low. Using the factory sights, I need to put the dot completely over the front sight on my target to hit where i want. But then it’s supposed to be zeroed at 25 yards I think I was shooting at like 12 yards… The jury is still out.. I figure I can always make my $69 back if it turns out I hate it
"Industry standard" might be kind of a stretch. Civilian concealed carry is not an industry. It is certainly what is popular, but popularity does not a standard make
I heard mixed reviews on that “dot”. I just got my first red dot and it was under $90 , with top mount battery compartment and shake awake technology. I think you would like it better.
Great gun after I installed a short stroke flat face trigger from Galloway Precision.. Mine came with a Crimson Trace optic installed which I shot for a while and didn't really care for it so it was removed..
@@crankygunreviews The Crimson Trace that came factory on mine works excellent I just don't care for extra stuff hanging on a small carry gun that I might want to pocket as it makes it too much larger.
Yeah it’s way better than it’s price suggests IMO. Not that I think it should cost more, I’m just stating that it’s a hood gun with lots of features for a good price.
@crankygunreviews . Yeah it's basically my truck gun, I don't carry it unless its a backup gun. It's definitely not as good as my other guns I wouldn't say a hood gun that's more along the lines of hi point or taurus.
@@D-A-1776 I carry this all the time and have no qualms about it. I don’t care if it’s $200, $400, $1500 gun… cost does not matter if it’s not reliable. And if it’s a cheap gun that is reliable and accurate why not carry it?
@crankygunreviews . I do on sometimes I just don't have a good holster other than a pocket holster and it gets humid here I don't wanna mess the finish up I know ruger is bad about rusting. I've had no problems out of it and it shoots great I need to find a good holster for it. I love rugers though I've got the lcp 2 and lcp max I always carry one for a backup.
@crankygunreviews . I carry a 250 dollar ruger ec9 sometimes as well. I've honestly not a had a gun that's not been reliable and I've had all the popular brands and some not so popular.
Eventho the ready dot is co witnessing with the iron sights. Shouldn’t you be focusing on the target with the dot? It sounds like you are trying to co witness the dot with the front sight.
This dot does not co-witness. I was mistaken. It’s zeroed for 25 yards I think, i shot it again today, and at 5 and 8 yards I shoot really low pointing the dot where I want to hit- have to aim about 5” high to hit where I want at close distances. And yes, I need to train to keep my eyes open and put the dot on target while keeping eyes open
I'm new to guns, could I ask, why do people often put something inside the gun ring in front of the trigger (a pen, shotgun shell, flashlight)? Just to block anything else from pushing the trigger? Does 124 grain give more kick than 115? And does +P give even more? Final question. Is the objective that "the bullet goes whereever the red dot is"? Or does the red dot HAVE TO be lined up with the front green sight?
All good questions. 1) typically no. You need to be comfortable handling your gun if you’re going to carry it. I put stuff in the trigger guard to hold them up for videos, not to keep the trigger from being pressed. I am not a fan of trigger blocks or anything inserted in the trigger guard when the gun is loaded. 2) just a 115 be 124 vs 147 grain comparison is not relevant… powder charge, powder type, bullet type all matter to some extent- many times heavier bullets are slower thus less recoil, or at least a different recoil impulse. +p 9mm typically will have a little more recoil or sharper recoil because the higher velocity 3) in theory if the red dot is zeroed correctly it’s point and shoot, but it’s more of an aid - rapid target acquisition so you don’t have to line up your sights to shoot. It gets you very close- a large dot like this one (15mil dot) will give quick target acquisition but it’s not as accurate- a smaller dot is more accurate, but may be a little harder for some to acquire the target. I tent to shoot slower with a red dot because I have to find it in the viewing window- with practice you can be hood with either red dot or iron sights- try both, see what you like. I’d say if your just starting out the Max 9 or a Taurus G3 or G3C toro with optics cut are a hood place to start, you can try with iron sights and add an optic and see what you like
@@crankygunreviews Just to let you know, I bought the Max-9 last week, but because "this is California" I have to wait 10 (+) days to get it, which will be NEXT week! But, the California Max-9s are NOT optic capable, instead there some indicator bar in that place instead. You might have known that already, but just thought I'd mention it for anyone who didn't. Still, I'm not so worried -- yet. I ordered a "Veridian" laser off of Amazon $129, it's still on the way as well (green color). Hopefully I will get along with that. Anyhow, all your other information is clear. Interesting to know 147 can have less recoil, makes me more interested in the higher numbers. Thx.
Why shoot with 1 eye closed… rookie! Both eyes open… that’s the entire point of using a red dot! Even without a dot you should be using your front sight! Your rear sight is just to line up for follow up shots. Last few videos I seen the reviewers are Amateurs at best…I should start reviewing lol…I’ll be able to show you all so much better! LoL
I’m learning. I have never trained with a red dot. I’m realizing the benefit of the red dot is to be able to see the dot in your peripheral means you’re on target, and practicing to get on target with both eyes open is way better. Instead of belittling offer help, people respond much better to that. If you think you have something to offer, you should put a video up
Good video. You provided an honest but balanced review. I'm 65 and have never owned a handgun with a red dot. Relying on a gun site that needs a battery is not something I'm interested in for in a concealed carry firearm (even though they have come a long way). I think the Ready Dot on a Max 9 is a good way to test the waters to see if a red dot improves my ability to be more accurate without compromising too much speed in site acquisiton. I think if we're serious about being responsible firearm owners, we owe it to ourselves and loved ones, to look into any product that will enable us to be more accurate and safe.
I’m realizing this is meant to shoot with both eyes open. When you bring the gun up to shoot, if you can see the dot in your peripheral vision you are in target. I’m getting used to it, it sometimes takes a split second to get the dot in view, but it’s more accurate and faster than guessing or squinting with irons. I’m in need of a lot more practice with it personally
I’m liking that gun more every time I see it. Thankfully, it’s available in my state.
Shooting with a red dot is much easier in the movies. 🤣
Seriously, it takes a lot of practice. Thanks!
It’s weird… I like it, but I’m so used to regular sights I’m not sure I’ll keep the dot
I didn’t like this gun …and I’m gonna give it another chance changing out the trigger..replacing the guide rod and spring…getting a red dot….
It shoots without problems…but it’s the only gun I’m having problems being accurate with …
I wanna like it …let’s see what happens..
Try shooting with both eyes open. It's a red dot, like a rifle
Yeah I need to practice more. But because my range has a roof over the benches, there is barely enough ambient light to make the dot illuminate- but you’re right, I need to practice fast target acquisition and use the dot as a reference not precision
You did a good job on the video brother. Personally speaking I stay away from lasers and red dot optics. While they sometimes can offer an advantage there's always more that can go wrong with them and there's no substitute for good iron sight skills. That said I'm considering one of these guns, but i insist on a model with a thumb safety. There is a dealer with a sale pricing these at $269.99 and the ec9 for $229.99. Can't go wrong with either.
yeah I agree with not relying on a laser or red dot, but again, the ready dot I wanted to try becuase it has no batteries, and you can view the factory sights through it in low light conditions.
I agree, brother. I'm going to stay away from optics on my edc. I bought the Max9 two weeks ago, and im very satisfied with my purchase. 299.00 at Grabagun. I chose this firearm for the value , quality, and options im getting for my money. I look at the Sig 365, Glock 43, Springfield Hellcat,Stoger MC9, and the Canik Mete MC9. I decided on the Max 9
@@williamharris803 I have the Ready Dot on my max 9 but I keep taking it off and putting it on because I want to get used to it. I think it just takes some practice where you have to just bring The Gun up in front of your face. Keep both eyes open so you can see the dot in the window and as long as you can see the dot whatever you’re aiming at your pretty much be guaranteed to hit.
VERY good informative video brother. I like the idea of a red dot on my Max-9 BUT for most of my daily life situation > I love pocket carry soooo I'll stay with the stock sights. Thanks and God bless...
Get a S&W bodyguard for pocket carry, run a red dot on your max 9 👍
Man you aint kidding about the rain and humidity. Im skippin range just to hit the beach before the season ends. I knew we were going to pay for the easy winter we had in Mass.
Yeah this is unprecedented
cya holsters iwb and simply rugged holsters for a pocket holster. Both are ready for the ready dot
I’ll check them out
I love my Max-9. I don't have an optic on mine as it is the CA compliant version but so far it has been a great pistol. Lightweight and thin and easy to conceal. A bit snappy compared to my G19 but still manageable. I definitely recommend it to anyone looking for a good budget concealed carry pistol.
Not quite as thin as a LC9S but not much thicker either.
@@crankygunreviews I think if it was any thinner I may not like it. But as it is I love it.
@@shootinnscootin5545 it is really good!
Good video. I like my Max-9 with the ReadyDot too. Thanks.
It’s great, especially for the price!
Your gun barrel was dipping as you squeezed the trigger. YOU were shooting low...not the gun.
@@Infected_Axe_Wound yep but it’s partially due to the view through the ready dot I was trying to line up the irons, and partially me pulling shots cause I was shooting too fast. I do tend to be more accurate with this with irons, but that is just me needing practice.
I noticed the same thing with ready dot on max 9. It claims to be zeroed at 25 yards and the POI is about 2 inches lower w Max9/ready dot combo at 7-10 yards, however, on Masada S it is dead on.
I just need to put the dot completely over the front sight when looking through the sights
Well for $69 I get it, but for the $99 that is was supposed to cost it makes no sense. It doesn't work in low light/darkness, non adjustable, and the dot is huge. For $99 or literally a few dollars more, you can get a budget (but good) 2 or 3 moa (instead of 15moa) fully adjustable nightime working battery operated dot. And for those worried about battery life, we're talking up to 50,000 hours.
If your ready dot is shooting low, I wonder if you can put a small metal shim under the front of it to tip it upward slightly...
It’s not shooting low, it me needing to get used to it. I was trying to use the dot to cover the front sight, that’s why I was hitting low. Using the factory sights, I need to put the dot completely over the front sight on my target to hit where i want. But then it’s supposed to be zeroed at 25 yards I think I was shooting at like 12 yards…
The jury is still out.. I figure I can always make my $69 back if it turns out I hate it
I think double stack polymer 9mm and optics cut is industry standard now most won't even buy a new gun unless it's optics ready
I will still buy non-optics ready guns 🤷🏻♂️
"Industry standard" might be kind of a stretch. Civilian concealed carry is not an industry. It is certainly what is popular, but popularity does not a standard make
@@grahamohea2424 ok, “most popular commonly expected” features
I heard mixed reviews on that “dot”. I just got my first red dot and it was under $90 , with top mount battery compartment and shake awake technology. I think you would like it better.
What brand/model?
Great gun after I installed a short stroke flat face trigger from Galloway Precision..
Mine came with a Crimson Trace optic installed which I shot for a while and didn't really care for it so it was removed..
Yeah I have taken the red dot on and off a few times- it’s just not bright enough unless you have overhead light.
@@crankygunreviews The Crimson Trace that came factory on mine works excellent I just don't care for extra stuff hanging on a small carry gun that I might want to pocket as it makes it too much larger.
Love my ruger max 9, great gun for the price. Got mine for 369.99 at my local ffl
Yeah it’s way better than it’s price suggests IMO. Not that I think it should cost more, I’m just stating that it’s a hood gun with lots of features for a good price.
@crankygunreviews . Yeah it's basically my truck gun, I don't carry it unless its a backup gun. It's definitely not as good as my other guns I wouldn't say a hood gun that's more along the lines of hi point or taurus.
@@D-A-1776 I carry this all the time and have no qualms about it. I don’t care if it’s $200, $400, $1500 gun… cost does not matter if it’s not reliable. And if it’s a cheap gun that is reliable and accurate why not carry it?
@crankygunreviews . I do on sometimes I just don't have a good holster other than a pocket holster and it gets humid here I don't wanna mess the finish up I know ruger is bad about rusting. I've had no problems out of it and it shoots great I need to find a good holster for it. I love rugers though I've got the lcp 2 and lcp max I always carry one for a backup.
@crankygunreviews . I carry a 250 dollar ruger ec9 sometimes as well. I've honestly not a had a gun that's not been reliable and I've had all the popular brands and some not so popular.
Eventho the ready dot is co witnessing with the iron sights. Shouldn’t you be focusing on the target with the dot?
It sounds like you are trying to co witness the dot with the front sight.
This dot does not co-witness. I was mistaken. It’s zeroed for 25 yards I think, i shot it again today, and at 5 and 8 yards I shoot really low pointing the dot where I want to hit- have to aim about 5” high to hit where I want at close distances. And yes, I need to train to keep my eyes open and put the dot on target while keeping eyes open
HIVIZ fiber optic sights I like. Red dot I’m not so sure…
Yeah I’m not sold on it yet either, but for $80 it was worth a try.
I'm new to guns, could I ask, why do people often put something inside the gun ring in front of the trigger (a pen, shotgun shell, flashlight)? Just to block anything else from pushing the trigger?
Does 124 grain give more kick than 115? And does +P give even more?
Final question. Is the objective that "the bullet goes whereever the red dot is"? Or does the red dot HAVE TO be lined up with the front green sight?
All good questions.
1) typically no. You need to be comfortable handling your gun if you’re going to carry it. I put stuff in the trigger guard to hold them up for videos, not to keep the trigger from being pressed. I am not a fan of trigger blocks or anything inserted in the trigger guard when the gun is loaded.
2) just a 115 be 124 vs 147 grain comparison is not relevant… powder charge, powder type, bullet type all matter to some extent- many times heavier bullets are slower thus less recoil, or at least a different recoil impulse. +p 9mm typically will have a little more recoil or sharper recoil because the higher velocity
3) in theory if the red dot is zeroed correctly it’s point and shoot, but it’s more of an aid - rapid target acquisition so you don’t have to line up your sights to shoot. It gets you very close- a large dot like this one (15mil dot) will give quick target acquisition but it’s not as accurate- a smaller dot is more accurate, but may be a little harder for some to acquire the target. I tent to shoot slower with a red dot because I have to find it in the viewing window- with practice you can be hood with either red dot or iron sights- try both, see what you like. I’d say if your just starting out the Max 9 or a Taurus G3 or G3C toro with optics cut are a hood place to start, you can try with iron sights and add an optic and see what you like
@@crankygunreviews Just to let you know, I bought the Max-9 last week, but because "this is California" I have to wait 10 (+) days to get it, which will be NEXT week! But, the California Max-9s are NOT optic capable, instead there some indicator bar in that place instead. You might have known that already, but just thought I'd mention it for anyone who didn't. Still, I'm not so worried -- yet. I ordered a "Veridian" laser off of Amazon $129, it's still on the way as well (green color). Hopefully I will get along with that. Anyhow, all your other information is clear. Interesting to know 147 can have less recoil, makes me more interested in the higher numbers. Thx.
@@mikem.2078 it’s a different recoil impulse- try different ammo see what you like
I think the DeSantis Slim-Tuk holster is compatible with the dot, if I recall correctly.
I’ll have to check- may just modify mine
Great review
Thanks
Why does it sound like legos when you reach for a mag 😅
Lol, because I had like 5 mags in my pocket
I haven't used a red dot on my own hand gun yet . But still not sure about not being able to adjust it. How long will it hold a charge?
It doesn’t charge- the fiber optic coil gathers whatever ambient light is available in real time.
@@crankygunreviews ok , I thought it charged in the light . I've been thinking of getting a gun with a dot
@@JG-xt9iothe big problem with this dot, in my mind at least, is that the dot disappears in dark conditions
@@rob6850it also has a tritium fiber optic front, you’d be fine
@@gazagrand3974 they went on sale for $69 a couple of days ago. For that price, might as well try it.
Can buy in CA now.
That’s good!
@@crankygunreviews But it’s the non optic version without the removable plate so they still got that control 🤬
@@UncleMilty because a red dot make a gun more lethal? It’s like the pistol brace discussion all over again
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You're supposed to cowitness this thing with both eyes open
Yeah I know it’s a new feeling for me
Red dots take some practice to be proficient with
Yeah I’m learning that
Your not shootimg from reset
I’m not sure what that means… trigger reset? Or is reset some stance I don’t know the term of?
Why shoot with 1 eye closed… rookie! Both eyes open… that’s the entire point of using a red dot! Even without a dot you should be using your front sight! Your rear sight is just to line up for follow up shots. Last few videos I seen the reviewers are Amateurs at best…I should start reviewing lol…I’ll be able to show you all so much better! LoL
I’m learning. I have never trained with a red dot. I’m realizing the benefit of the red dot is to be able to see the dot in your peripheral means you’re on target, and practicing to get on target with both eyes open is way better.
Instead of belittling offer help, people respond much better to that. If you think you have something to offer, you should put a video up