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This video sums up my experience with Ball pretty well recently. I do everything I can to get value and use all of my cooldowns, then the enemy doesn't die and suddently I have 200 hp, I go get some healthpacks, and then I come back and everyone is dead
the added 50+ health on every character really broke balls playstyle of having no team shield and needing to kill support/damage characters with precisely aimed headshots all within a very small window of time before the healers negate the whole scenario (ball has no way of stunning or hindering a support from starting their heal cast)
@@tomatoesofdoom You absolutely don't have to kill enemies to get value. If three enemy characters or something are looking at you, your team has a 4v2. A lot of teams will be unable to do anything with that advantage tho.
i like dive tanks but ball is one of those characters that shouldn't have been added to the game in the first place. But i had those feelings since ow1 about quit a few characters being added like moira, brig, echo, etc.
Blizzard Devs: You know what would make a game about many different heroes utilising many different abilities to win matches even better? A character that removes those abilities! Wouldn’t that be fun for the community!!
@@slimJIMfellaThat's just not true. And even if he is hard to kill, he does not get enough value because when he comes back to the team fight all of his teammates are dead.
And lets make this character go invisible, and keep buffing her to the point where she can come out of invis, hack, virus, and leave a 250hp character with 30hp in the span of 1 second, without even shooting. Oh and also the ability to teleport within LOS every 5 seconds, because why not?
Everyone who never plays Ball: “Ball is throwing! He’s not doing anything!!” The Ball in question: “Uses every cooldown imaginable and empties entire mag into the enemy backline” Also the enemy in question: “Moira orb gets thrown and outheals all damage done to them”
i hate these devs its like they're doing this on purpose. they always buff the boring ass characters to make the COD freaks happy and then nerf the shit out of any character with mechanics and a high skill ceiling like ball and genji
@@Raichu159ball is fundamentally flawed and is shit design he’s the only character in the game that nobody likes seeing on their team or on the other team everyone hates ball for a reason.
I’m perfectly ok with all the changes they’ve made this season except for ball. Every character has like what, 25-50+ extra health? Boop doesn’t get a buff, slam doesn’t get a buff, mines doesn’t get a buff, and his tiny wee little pea shooters can’t kill anything. I feel like the ONLY reason I still do pretty well with ball is because low ranks don’t know what to do about him or how to kill him. But when I do get against a team that has even a good mercy, I can’t kill anyone. I gotta swap every time
I love how everyone said ball was S tier, I said it was only while lucio, tracer, zen were meta. Notice how every time ball gets a meta, the devs instantly put a stop to it?
@@Vinicius9515 Dive meta is INFINITELY more fun than all of the hog, mauga and orisa metas we've been getting, also where's reins meta? (the rest of the tank roster is fine tbh, hog, mauga and orisa are just the most boring/least skillful)
@cagxplays9602 here's what we need for a week they need to make mauga, hog, and orisa have 1 hp and mega buff rein. I'm talking 5 fire strikes on a 2 sec cooldown, 20%speed buff, double health and just let him have a week yanno
i’m currently in gold 5 (which should be the equivalent of plat 5 last season) but I still have teammates walking into junkrat traps that I’M SHOOTING.
yeah fireball and pile driver didn't get compensatory buffs like most other melee abilities did when HP was increased. Balls carry potential is in the toilet but he got to be "S tier" for a week because he gets shit on the least by zen
what i realized is why ball is so hard for my MMR is when 3 people are on me my team still plays as if its a 4v5 and ignores the 3 people missing and blames me for not being a tank for the team. on top of getting his techs down and just better game sense I sometimes wonder why i even try as i stare down the barrel of sombras uzi for the 65th time that day
I mean, if another streamer put ball in s tier thats a boosted take, or a support player making a tier list; according to those guys every dive char is always op and they are the poor victims
I dropped Overwatch for Seige a couple months ago. Good times, would recommend, new season is good. I came back last week and had fun with ball. Then I realized Sombra EMP got buffed to a 3 second lockout. It is a guaranteed tank kill. Why would they add that to the game? Do they think that making a tank player’s life miserable is good? I lost 5 or 6 games because of this change. I’m not sure there is counterplay besides asking my support to swap kiri when it is coming. Overall, Sombra is a anti fun hero, remove her immediately. Hacking through invis should’ve never been added. EMP taking away health should’ve never been added. Sombra should’ve never been added. I would rather have old Cree flash than get EMP’d again. Also Lucio’s boop buff is absurd, but at least Lucio isn’t hard cc.
Ball is my #1 played then Lucio then junk and Hanzo. I am okay with Lucio boop as ball player and would rather have flasbang than magnetic grenade 90% of the time
How funny, both teams had Sombra when they won the first game, yours didn't, then they also win third game after their dps go Sombra / Tracer, how they keep buffing that fucking stupid hero is complete nonsense to me, so absolutely broken but "negative winrate equals bad"... Also how someone can go 7/11 as FUCKING SOMBRA with a Ball causing that much chaos is beyond me, bro was playing with his forehead for sure lmao
*chazm pov while gm1* getting gm 1 is so easy. literally, guys, literally, every rank is easy except gm 1 *chazm pov while masters* "it is LITERALLY... impossible, masters is harder than gm"
My Masters games have been literal coin flips, I do have those games where I just underperform but 9 times out of 10 I'm doing everything possible to win and still manage to lose while out damaging one of my dps (mostly) and out healing the entire lobby. Shits crazy
Knowing how much the community hates Ball and Blizzard tanks, I'm fully expecting the rework to be something stupid like perma turret mode tank with more damage so we can remove one of the more unique niche tanks from the game for another fat DPS shooter
@@ryanwoods9608No it's def gonna be perma ball form if they have to pick one. If it's anything other than that they know they would have no point in being in the game at all.
1:10 least favourite Sombra interaction. You boop her out of stealth, she instantly hacks you before you can even leave ball form. Complete bs with no outplay potential. They need to make Sombra be unable to cast hack for a second or two after taking damage.
@@WaitingInTheSky1I swear it feels like there's no cooldown for hack being interrupted. I Seismic Slam a Sombra and she's immediately able to hack me.
@@_V.Va_totally. I feel like the dev team could still do better when it comes to correcting unpopular/unfun mechanics via reworks. To me, it seems silly to invest millions of hours crafting this beautiful game with all kinds of innovate characters, then allow a few heroes to ruin the experience. For the longest time, Sombra was underpowered outside of pro play _and_ one of the least-liked heroes in the game (source: I created a r/competitiveoverwatch survey in 2019, posted it on reddit, got 1200 responses and Sombra was considered one of the least fun heroes to play _against_ despite being a poor pick). It's very rare that you speak to anyone and hear them say, "Yeah I love playing against Sombra". Here we are 4 years later and ... yeah her gameplay loop is a bit better, but she's still like some sort of L4D infected character to play against -- just pops out of thin air removes your abilities. Not fun.
@@defragsbin They'll figure it out eventually. Luckily, OW was made during a time where you didn't have to wait for a full sequel to come out for changes to be made. And surprisingly, I kind of like fighting Sombra. At least current Sombra, Hack-cooldown aside. It's fun to kill them when they think they could escape after fucking up the Hack Virus combo.
They extra health makes your job 10x harder lmao blizzard thought this bigger projectiles/additional health would help make it easier for new players? As if Bronze/Silver ranks exist for newer players to compete in…
14:25 One of the main reasons why I am having an extremely hard time climbing out of Silver, even after the rank reset. (I play Dva, Sig, Ram, Moira) Even if I peel for my teammates, if they don’t follow through with the damage that I’m assisting them with, there really isn’t a point.
The best thing they could do for Ball is make it so his flaming rush cant be cancelled by things like hack, and clashes with things like Rein charge, Doom punch and Brig bash
@@iigotskillzz4836I think tank passive should just provide some resistance to all status effects. DPS passive, anti, discord are all too strong against tanks.
I find it hilarious of how blizzard literally designed ow2 to counter counter-swapping, and yet the other team swaps instantly to sombra whenever me or you (chazm) play
I don’t think that was the point of 5v5. It had other reasons, like tank queue times, visual clarity, and broken metas like double shield. I personally think that’s all bullshit, but those were blizzard’s reasons. I think they didn’t design ow2 to combat counterswapping, because the number 1 problem with solo tanking in my opinion is getting countered.
Other thing I'm thinking atm is that meta swings defining the viability of heroes, and tanks in particular (Ball went from S-tier to like D-tier in a few nudge patches) is unhealthy for the game. The tank loop is kinda messed-up at the moment. Counter-picking is also way too powerful (particularly when the other team is attacking and can just insta-swap to counter your defence comp). It's not just ball. I have friends that like playing monke, and after one fight the enemy team comes back with Mauga, Reaper etc. There's a lot of subtle things that conspire to make a pick unviable, too. E.g. - Lucio getting a boop buff is huge against ball once you reach ranks where Lucios have the concepts of object permanence - Doom can just hard counter ball by denying his existence and negating his ult by using seismic, but you can't really do anything in return beyond m1 him (at most levels, I don't think people think about doom in this way -- nobody says 'go doom to counter ball', but he is very good at disrupting your flow) Put a few of those heroes in the same team and suddenly you're getting chain stunned/displaced/body-blocked. I still think Ball needs some QoL buffs to stop bodyblocking.
At this point it's just become counterwatch. See Reaper? play Dva. see Dva? Play zarya. See zarya? play bastion. Its so much less fun than just playing the game normally.
95% of games have Sombra players making the experience worse for us ball mains..Wrecking ball probably has to be the most useless game character in the history of gaming right now honestly. Maining an off tank like hog,ball,junker queen, along with doom since season 1 has been damn near impossible. I believe 6v6 made the off tank experience more fun and fair.
No ball players thought he was "S tier". There shouldnt even be a tier above B for tank with how shit it is. He was a dive tank last patch and now he loses his survivability and ability to get solo kills. Its ass @@Nexusquo
The problem is Sombra, always. Not only for ball, for every tank. The fact we have only 1 tank right now let Sombra be soo strong... she can disable every tank in every moment for let tank die.
Ball is one of the few heroes to not get any sort of damage buff to acclimate to the new health maximums. It's a massive oversight on the devs. They're relying on whatever "rework" they're working on to be good enough while abandoning him in the meantime. It's a shitty experience. Takes a few seconds to change some damage numbers. He doesn't even need huge buffs. Just small ones as far as damage is concerned.
chazm i really dont know how you manage to still main ball after all this shit honestly respect i stopped maining him cause of the passive heal and sombra buff
This video refelcrs my exeprience so well. I can roll into every point, get 85% ult charge in the first fight and then get counterswapped like no tomorrow. Fucking blows.
I’ve been saying it all season ball is ass and it took everyone relearning the other tanks to realize it only cuz balls play style just doesn’t change. His damage is trash, his health doesn’t scale with all the health increases cuz adaptive shields still gives the same amount, and matchmaking is absolutely disgusting. There’s always 1 guy who’s just dead weight, I’ll never forget my diamond game this season where I got a dps who went 3-11 and it was his first placement match on dps and he started playing last season and the other dps on the enemy team who was supposed to “compensate” by being equally terrible was not equally terrible not even close. Why tf can’t it be a tank diff for once, why do I have to play against the sweaty tanks, why can’t I be the “dead weight” I’m over this season 400 games played I’ll never get back
WOW I LOVE PLAYING BALL. I LOVE PROVIDING NO VALUE UNLESS MY TEAMMATES ARE 3 RANKS BELOW THEIR NORMAL RANK. I LOVE THAT I CAN NO LONGER KILL ANYONE WITHOUT USING EVERY SINGLE RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO ME AND HAVING 80% ACCURACY AT THE BARE MINIMUM. I LOVE THAT EVERY SINGLE GAME I GET COUNTERPICKED X5 AFTER FIRST FIGHT. I LOVE THAT PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO COUNTER THE MOST SKILL INTENSIVE CHARACTER EVERY POSSIBLE MOMENT THEY GET EVEN IF HE'S THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME FOR 9 SEASONS. I LOVE THAT MY FAVORITE CHARACTER THAT I JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN ON IS GIVING ME A HEADACHE EVERY GAME TO EVEN TRY AND PLAY. I LOVE RUNNING A MARATHON SO BALL CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET. I LOVE THIS CHARACTER
Praying the rework is good, hopefully it stops body blocking, makes ball do any damage, let him displace enemies even slightly. He doesn’t have to be meta, just not literally cosmetic
Ball is honestly such a bad tank, sure you can get some easy picks with him but your team just dies around you bc you have no area control unless you’re spinning around the payload
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Didn't even really think about the breakpoints with the health buffs either, does really fuck over ball since there's so little you can do when they start healing each other with that extra time now. Needs a damage buff or to give tanks some antiheal dps passive of their own because it ruins the way all the core character designs were made.
That's exactly how my balls games goes too recently. I also notice that sometime my boop feels weird like it doesn't work i just get stuck against the enemy team, does that happen to anyone here ?
Yeah bad days, I had it too like this soldier at the end of the video. Usually I play normally on bastion or soldier, I do many picks, i do not have may deaths, BUT sometimes, after 3-4 wins the game put me in a dead lobby: I can't do anything, I have a lot of damage (10k dmg but 7 - 10 kills!), many deaths. Seems like they are putting me against players I cannot kill, more better than me, or I do not fit the team or each other in my team.
that happens in other games as well, when you get a good win streak the ranking algorithm pairs you with people with a bad performance (bad win streak), as for example, when you get over 50% win rate, they put you in the "loser queue", so youre matched with bad people. Thats supposed to "balance" the winrate of matches, but imo its a sh`1tty setting, nothing good can come from it
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This video sums up my experience with Ball pretty well recently. I do everything I can to get value and use all of my cooldowns, then the enemy doesn't die and suddently I have 200 hp, I go get some healthpacks, and then I come back and everyone is dead
the added 50+ health on every character really broke balls playstyle of having no team shield and needing to kill support/damage characters with precisely aimed headshots all within a very small window of time before the healers negate the whole scenario (ball has no way of stunning or hindering a support from starting their heal cast)
@@tomatoesofdoom You absolutely don't have to kill enemies to get value. If three enemy characters or something are looking at you, your team has a 4v2. A lot of teams will be unable to do anything with that advantage tho.
@@usmh oh you poor, poor soul... 😂
i like dive tanks but ball is one of those characters that shouldn't have been added to the game in the first place. But i had those feelings since ow1 about quit a few characters being added like moira, brig, echo, etc.
@@whitebwoiwhat’s wrong with echo??
Blizzard Devs: You know what would make a game about many different heroes utilising many different abilities to win matches even better? A character that removes those abilities! Wouldn’t that be fun for the community!!
(If you haven’t guessed, I’m talking about Sombra)
@@PlasmaStar_ without her ball would be unkillable, below diamond ball is unkillable even with sombra in the game
@@slimJIMfellaThat's just not true. And even if he is hard to kill, he does not get enough value because when he comes back to the team fight all of his teammates are dead.
just aim and play a more respectable ball counter like bastion instead of the border hopper@@slimJIMfella
And lets make this character go invisible, and keep buffing her to the point where she can come out of invis, hack, virus, and leave a 250hp character with 30hp in the span of 1 second, without even shooting. Oh and also the ability to teleport within LOS every 5 seconds, because why not?
if chazm can’t play ball fucking no one can
and wrecking ball is somehow an A-tier tank.
💀💀
@@oplul5352 according to people who dont play ball. No ball player is saying this is okay
Your healthbar goes down faster than rein shield
Everyone who never plays Ball: “Ball is throwing! He’s not doing anything!!”
The Ball in question:
“Uses every cooldown imaginable and empties entire mag into the enemy backline”
Also the enemy in question:
“Moira orb gets thrown and outheals all damage done to them”
Blizzard just said "know what? Ball is kinda useful, let's gigabuff sombra, reaper, mei and sym in one go" And we back on bottom tier
i hate these devs its like they're doing this on purpose. they always buff the boring ass characters to make the COD freaks happy and then nerf the shit out of any character with mechanics and a high skill ceiling like ball and genji
@@Raichu159ball is fundamentally flawed and is shit design he’s the only character in the game that nobody likes seeing on their team or on the other team everyone hates ball for a reason.
good
S9 Ball is a Sisyphus simulator.
I’m perfectly ok with all the changes they’ve made this season except for ball. Every character has like what, 25-50+ extra health? Boop doesn’t get a buff, slam doesn’t get a buff, mines doesn’t get a buff, and his tiny wee little pea shooters can’t kill anything.
I feel like the ONLY reason I still do pretty well with ball is because low ranks don’t know what to do about him or how to kill him.
But when I do get against a team that has even a good mercy, I can’t kill anyone. I gotta swap every time
I love how everyone said ball was S tier, I said it was only while lucio, tracer, zen were meta. Notice how every time ball gets a meta, the devs instantly put a stop to it?
because if ball is meta usually the game is not in a good meta
Are you a developer
There are some characters which deserve to just be worse than other characters and to never be meta
Junk, sym, ball etc
@@Vinicius9515 Dive meta is INFINITELY more fun than all of the hog, mauga and orisa metas we've been getting, also where's reins meta? (the rest of the tank roster is fine tbh, hog, mauga and orisa are just the most boring/least skillful)
@cagxplays9602 here's what we need for a week they need to make mauga, hog, and orisa have 1 hp and mega buff rein. I'm talking 5 fire strikes on a 2 sec cooldown, 20%speed buff, double health and just let him have a week yanno
6:08 that is a tank experience if I ever fuckin seen one
"Good ball players dont die"
-every non-tank player
@@mutantraze3681every non ball player lmao
@@mutantraze3681yeah if u don’t die u likely aren’t trying to do enough for the team
@@nullnull629I love making over aggressive plays and dying for my team to win the fight makes me feel heroic
@@NothingEverFeelsRight Its so fun to do that with ball because ppl just wanna chase u lol
ball is life
And unlife
i do. easily the most fun character to play. @Yik_ow2
🗿@@kayveeay7340
My problem is rank reset I get lobotomy victims for teammates now
Same
Free to play quality teams😂
i’m currently in gold 5 (which should be the equivalent of plat 5 last season) but I still have teammates walking into junkrat traps that I’M SHOOTING.
@@leafster_02 I was plat 4-5 I placed gold 2 all around. Nearly impossible to climb with these teammates
I'm getting fucked with 50/50 matchmaking, can't get out of fucking plat dude.
15:06 never forget
yeah fireball and pile driver didn't get compensatory buffs like most other melee abilities did when HP was increased. Balls carry potential is in the toilet but he got to be "S tier" for a week because he gets shit on the least by zen
minefield didn't get any damage adjustment either and now is just a decorative ult
Guess theyre holding back for the rework. Had better be good damn
Ball really got power crept
what i realized is why ball is so hard for my MMR is when 3 people are on me my team still plays as if its a 4v5 and ignores the 3 people missing and blames me for not being a tank for the team. on top of getting his techs down and just better game sense I sometimes wonder why i even try as i stare down the barrel of sombras uzi for the 65th time that day
Tank is so much fun in ow2 when there's only 1 tank! Especially for a off tank like ball, you can just eat every CC!
Ball isnt even an off tank tough
@@darkcat6530 ball was considered a main tank in ow1 but he need an offtank to back his ass or peel for the team
Ball was not an offtank, you clearly never played ow1 lol
@@ZykoYFF my bad, thanks for correcting me; i didn’t know tanks too well in ow1 and he always seemed like the off tank for me.
@@darkcat6530 my bad, thanks for correcting me; i didn’t know tanks too well in ow1 and he always seemed like the off tank for me.
“🤓But actually I saw my favorite streamer say ball is in S tier so skill issue” -some gold player probably.
literally lmao
I mean, if another streamer put ball in s tier thats a boosted take, or a support player making a tier list; according to those guys every dive char is always op and they are the poor victims
I dropped Overwatch for Seige a couple months ago. Good times, would recommend, new season is good.
I came back last week and had fun with ball. Then I realized Sombra EMP got buffed to a 3 second lockout. It is a guaranteed tank kill. Why would they add that to the game? Do they think that making a tank player’s life miserable is good? I lost 5 or 6 games because of this change. I’m not sure there is counterplay besides asking my support to swap kiri when it is coming.
Overall, Sombra is a anti fun hero, remove her immediately. Hacking through invis should’ve never been added. EMP taking away health should’ve never been added. Sombra should’ve never been added. I would rather have old Cree flash than get EMP’d again.
Also Lucio’s boop buff is absurd, but at least Lucio isn’t hard cc.
Ball is my #1 played then Lucio then junk and Hanzo. I am okay with Lucio boop as ball player and would rather have flasbang than magnetic grenade 90% of the time
How funny, both teams had Sombra when they won the first game, yours didn't, then they also win third game after their dps go Sombra / Tracer, how they keep buffing that fucking stupid hero is complete nonsense to me, so absolutely broken but "negative winrate equals bad"...
Also how someone can go 7/11 as FUCKING SOMBRA with a Ball causing that much chaos is beyond me, bro was playing with his forehead for sure lmao
I swear you have to play every single game absolutley perfect to get maybe %9 for winning
*chazm pov while gm1*
getting gm 1 is so easy. literally, guys, literally, every rank is easy except gm 1
*chazm pov while masters*
"it is LITERALLY... impossible, masters is harder than gm"
Comparing gm1 pre s9 vs s9 masters
100% I put my money where my mouth is, he couldn't climb out of gold solo. "Masters" my ass
@@jodduck6809 his main is gm1 right now
if he was playing any decent hero he'd be gm in a few hours. The guy that went negative the entire game was gm so it can't be that hard lol.
@@jodduck6809 not using one of the weakest heroes in the game. he did prove he can do it multiple times before ball became unplayable.
This is how my quick play games go... The 1 negative DPS is always on my team
My Masters games have been literal coin flips, I do have those games where I just underperform but 9 times out of 10 I'm doing everything possible to win and still manage to lose while out damaging one of my dps (mostly) and out healing the entire lobby. Shits crazy
devs said in the last patch they have "something coming" for ball
hopefully its good >.>
Knowing how much the community hates Ball and Blizzard tanks, I'm fully expecting the rework to be something stupid like perma turret mode tank with more damage so we can remove one of the more unique niche tanks from the game for another fat DPS shooter
@@ryanwoods9608ball form will be on a 10 second cooldown and adaptive shields will be replaced with a trap you can place on the ground
@@ryanwoods9608No it's def gonna be perma ball form if they have to pick one. If it's anything other than that they know they would have no point in being in the game at all.
“something coming” is probably a bullet right through the heart of wrecking ball. They’ll either destroy his identity or make him worse or both.
It won't be. When has dev EVER been kind to ball?
*Overwatch 2 is Anti Ball
1:10 least favourite Sombra interaction. You boop her out of stealth, she instantly hacks you before you can even leave ball form. Complete bs with no outplay potential. They need to make Sombra be unable to cast hack for a second or two after taking damage.
Taking damage interrupts the hack. Taking damage does not stop her from ult unless she dies.
@@WaitingInTheSky1I swear it feels like there's no cooldown for hack being interrupted. I Seismic Slam a Sombra and she's immediately able to hack me.
she simply shouldn't be able to take you out of ball form the same way she doesn't cancel rammatra's nemesis or Bastion turret form
@@_V.Va_totally. I feel like the dev team could still do better when it comes to correcting unpopular/unfun mechanics via reworks. To me, it seems silly to invest millions of hours crafting this beautiful game with all kinds of innovate characters, then allow a few heroes to ruin the experience.
For the longest time, Sombra was underpowered outside of pro play _and_ one of the least-liked heroes in the game (source: I created a r/competitiveoverwatch survey in 2019, posted it on reddit, got 1200 responses and Sombra was considered one of the least fun heroes to play _against_ despite being a poor pick).
It's very rare that you speak to anyone and hear them say, "Yeah I love playing against Sombra". Here we are 4 years later and ... yeah her gameplay loop is a bit better, but she's still like some sort of L4D infected character to play against -- just pops out of thin air removes your abilities. Not fun.
@@defragsbin They'll figure it out eventually. Luckily, OW was made during a time where you didn't have to wait for a full sequel to come out for changes to be made.
And surprisingly, I kind of like fighting Sombra. At least current Sombra, Hack-cooldown aside. It's fun to kill them when they think they could escape after fucking up the Hack Virus combo.
Can’t believe if I get a winstreak in diamond I’ll be able to play with the Chazm
They extra health makes your job 10x harder lmao blizzard thought this bigger projectiles/additional health would help make it easier for new players? As if Bronze/Silver ranks exist for newer players to compete in…
This is some fine Egowatch
when chazm said “he’s 9 - 11” instantly got an add bruh
14:25 One of the main reasons why I am having an extremely hard time climbing out of Silver, even after the rank reset. (I play Dva, Sig, Ram, Moira)
Even if I peel for my teammates, if they don’t follow through with the damage that I’m assisting them with, there really isn’t a point.
The best thing they could do for Ball is make it so his flaming rush cant be cancelled by things like hack, and clashes with things like Rein charge, Doom punch and Brig bash
May as well give all tanks cc immunity 🙄
they could make it so that trash damage / melee doesn't cancel it for starters :(
@@iigotskillzz4836 what's your point? Tanks are suffering the most out of all roles, and cc is the main cause
@@iigotskillzz4836I think tank passive should just provide some resistance to all status effects. DPS passive, anti, discord are all too strong against tanks.
I find it hilarious of how blizzard literally designed ow2 to counter counter-swapping, and yet the other team swaps instantly to sombra whenever me or you (chazm) play
I don’t think that was the point of 5v5. It had other reasons, like tank queue times, visual clarity, and broken metas like double shield. I personally think that’s all bullshit, but those were blizzard’s reasons. I think they didn’t design ow2 to combat counterswapping, because the number 1 problem with solo tanking in my opinion is getting countered.
Imagine if Sombra could only lock out two abilities at random and not all at once
That would actually be kind of a cool twist. Definitely a unique idea
Other thing I'm thinking atm is that meta swings defining the viability of heroes, and tanks in particular (Ball went from S-tier to like D-tier in a few nudge patches) is unhealthy for the game.
The tank loop is kinda messed-up at the moment. Counter-picking is also way too powerful (particularly when the other team is attacking and can just insta-swap to counter your defence comp). It's not just ball. I have friends that like playing monke, and after one fight the enemy team comes back with Mauga, Reaper etc.
There's a lot of subtle things that conspire to make a pick unviable, too. E.g.
- Lucio getting a boop buff is huge against ball once you reach ranks where Lucios have the concepts of object permanence
- Doom can just hard counter ball by denying his existence and negating his ult by using seismic, but you can't really do anything in return beyond m1 him (at most levels, I don't think people think about doom in this way -- nobody says 'go doom to counter ball', but he is very good at disrupting your flow)
Put a few of those heroes in the same team and suddenly you're getting chain stunned/displaced/body-blocked.
I still think Ball needs some QoL buffs to stop bodyblocking.
At this point it's just become counterwatch. See Reaper? play Dva. see Dva? Play zarya. See zarya? play bastion. Its so much less fun than just playing the game normally.
chazm you are always welcome here in the plat world
95% of games have Sombra players making the experience worse for us ball mains..Wrecking ball probably has to be the most useless game character in the history of gaming right now honestly. Maining an off tank like hog,ball,junker queen, along with doom since season 1 has been damn near impossible. I believe 6v6 made the off tank experience more fun and fair.
Before you mentioned it, i was thinking the same thing watching. If you had the dsp passive they would die. If not they mostly live
I hate ball right now
He’s not fun
Crazy how he was S tier at top 500 at the beginning of S9.
No ball players thought he was "S tier". There shouldnt even be a tier above B for tank with how shit it is. He was a dive tank last patch and now he loses his survivability and ability to get solo kills. Its ass @@Nexusquo
I'll go 27-2 and all my backline are 12-10, every loss looks like this and it's hard to maintain 50% this season
@@RobinLundqvist I don’t understand why ppl/flats thinks he is A ball is borderline unplayable rn
seen someone with this highskill not able to win because hes not using other characters, thats just insane
The problem is Sombra, always. Not only for ball, for every tank. The fact we have only 1 tank right now let Sombra be soo strong... she can disable every tank in every moment for let tank die.
You would think that with all the time you save with Factor meals you’d eventually git gud at ball yet here we are
9:10 is pretty much ball hell, youre distracting 3 enemy players INCLUDING BOTH SUPPORTS just for your entire backline to die
Great vid watched it all
can’t wait for the +20 ammo buff next season we are FEASTING
Lmao that is some lame shizz they would and have done😂
Ball is one of the few heroes to not get any sort of damage buff to acclimate to the new health maximums. It's a massive oversight on the devs. They're relying on whatever "rework" they're working on to be good enough while abandoning him in the meantime. It's a shitty experience. Takes a few seconds to change some damage numbers. He doesn't even need huge buffs. Just small ones as far as damage is concerned.
even in the darkest of nights, when all hope seems gone, chazm's light shines on. thank you for your guidance.
Ball is a cosmetic hero
chazm i really dont know how you manage to still main ball after all this shit honestly respect i stopped maining him cause of the passive heal and sombra buff
very real, hes unplayable
I feel the same way on echo bro. I used to be able to mow people down. But now everyone teleports away with one health.
This video refelcrs my exeprience so well. I can roll into every point, get 85% ult charge in the first fight and then get counterswapped like no tomorrow. Fucking blows.
I’ve been saying it all season ball is ass and it took everyone relearning the other tanks to realize it only cuz balls play style just doesn’t change. His damage is trash, his health doesn’t scale with all the health increases cuz adaptive shields still gives the same amount, and matchmaking is absolutely disgusting. There’s always 1 guy who’s just dead weight, I’ll never forget my diamond game this season where I got a dps who went 3-11 and it was his first placement match on dps and he started playing last season and the other dps on the enemy team who was supposed to “compensate” by being equally terrible was not equally terrible not even close. Why tf can’t it be a tank diff for once, why do I have to play against the sweaty tanks, why can’t I be the “dead weight” I’m over this season 400 games played I’ll never get back
Honestly kind of a skill issue
The watchpoint game is the hardest ive ever seen you sweat
went 15-0 at the beginning of the season and now winning is a dream come true
I think an unranked to gm would be really interesting, to see Ball's individual impact when you don't have dps constantly applying the passive
If only ball doesn’t get body blocked by others than tanks
Life would be good
the life of wrecking ball. gets instant countered swapped with sombra
chazm is alive wtf
Reminds me of this game where a doom got 85 kills (can't remember the exact number, it was in the high 80s) and still lost.
reason? Incompetent team.
the one jay3 reacted to
I’ve had several 40-50 kill games on tank and lost anyway. Zero impact role.
Maugna gets immunity when he charges, ball needs his shield to give immunity.
This looks painful, I’m in gold and ball is fun :D I can roll around in back lines and they can’t kill me and half of them forget I’m there
Winning on ball is a struggle right now for some reason
WOW I LOVE PLAYING BALL. I LOVE PROVIDING NO VALUE UNLESS MY TEAMMATES ARE 3 RANKS BELOW THEIR NORMAL RANK. I LOVE THAT I CAN NO LONGER KILL ANYONE WITHOUT USING EVERY SINGLE RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO ME AND HAVING 80% ACCURACY AT THE BARE MINIMUM. I LOVE THAT EVERY SINGLE GAME I GET COUNTERPICKED X5 AFTER FIRST FIGHT. I LOVE THAT PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO COUNTER THE MOST SKILL INTENSIVE CHARACTER EVERY POSSIBLE MOMENT THEY GET EVEN IF HE'S THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME FOR 9 SEASONS. I LOVE THAT MY FAVORITE CHARACTER THAT I JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN ON IS GIVING ME A HEADACHE EVERY GAME TO EVEN TRY AND PLAY. I LOVE RUNNING A MARATHON SO BALL CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET. I LOVE THIS CHARACTER
15:59 thats my every game in diamond with ball... ana always solo and you cant ever kill her
seriously ive been on a 10 fight loss streak and when i finally win I still felt like I lost.
ALL of my games include a dps on my team going negative and talking back the most. If the other team have two competent dps then it's ggs
I’m hoping ball’s rework does him justice
The kinda loss streak that would make me throw from gm to bronze when I still played
"nice to see even good players have lose streaks"
I'm just happy they announced that Hamster is getting a rework in season 10. Hopefully that will be good for all us Ball players out here
every game I have 2 negative dps and a negative tank. My other support has about 3 healing and I am having to solocarry
My goal is to at some point reach masters and eventually get ball diffed by you
what was chazm talking at 00:24,gm4 for what?
I hope his rework solve some of the issues. I would like to see ammo increase at least.
Praying the rework is good, hopefully it stops body blocking, makes ball do any damage, let him displace enemies even slightly. He doesn’t have to be meta, just not literally cosmetic
Ball is honestly such a bad tank, sure you can get some easy picks with him but your team just dies around you bc you have no area control unless you’re spinning around the payload
tbh i know only yeatle joins jay3 videos but i would love shazam to be featured at least once
Rather than a complete rework I want his primary fire to get a rework
im so excited to eat my factor meal; 50% off my first purchase with your link?! That's a steal! Thank you Chazm! Your ball, and nutrition, are transformative for me!
10:50 least stressful and resource intensive ball kill szn 9
looking forward to his rework
was masters consistently now i can barely scrape the bottom of diamond
aaron said ball rework is coming
i think now ball with stronga tracer can do things in duo
Bro got sponsored 😂😂😂😂 I know u want dat food chasm boy
Didn't even really think about the breakpoints with the health buffs either, does really fuck over ball since there's so little you can do when they start healing each other with that extra time now. Needs a damage buff or to give tanks some antiheal dps passive of their own because it ruins the way all the core character designs were made.
That's exactly how my balls games goes too recently. I also notice that sometime my boop feels weird like it doesn't work i just get stuck against the enemy team, does that happen to anyone here ?
Just by being a top 500 with ball, its a victory
Yeah bad days, I had it too like this soldier at the end of the video. Usually I play normally on bastion or soldier, I do many picks, i do not have may deaths, BUT sometimes, after 3-4 wins the game put me in a dead lobby: I can't do anything, I have a lot of damage (10k dmg but 7 - 10 kills!), many deaths. Seems like they are putting me against players I cannot kill, more better than me, or I do not fit the team or each other in my team.
that happens in other games as well, when you get a good win streak the ranking algorithm pairs you with people with a bad performance (bad win streak), as for example, when you get over 50% win rate, they put you in the "loser queue", so youre matched with bad people. Thats supposed to "balance" the winrate of matches, but imo its a sh`1tty setting, nothing good can come from it
Ngl this season made me believe in elo hell
Let’s just make doomfist a tank with the same abilities, yeah that’s a good idea
Use the thumbs up to bring back 2 tanks so I don't get looked at by 5 enemies every pile drive
Fuck it, we Ball.
True, it's very difficult to play. I was gm 5 ball and now I'm stuck master (I don't play much 😭)
Reversal
What's the ball glitch?
Where is the chazmcam