Being a court reporter for 18 years, this is a very informative video. People.............we are not a dying field. We are in need of more court reporters. We are a unique bunch. GO FOR IT!!!!!
@Sero Suit Yes it is. More court reporters retire every year than new ones are created. The job is still in demand and will be needed for the foreseeable future.
I have wondered about this for years. Literally, years. Today finally looked it up. This was a great demo. I'd love to learn to use a Diamante. It's so impressive!
Same! I've always wondered how it worked exactly - and today I decided to look it up. Now we know. Very impressive, takes a sharp attention to detail and listening skills.
Thanks so much for sharing this - While on jury duty, I've always been fascinated how the court reporters are able to get everything down perfectly. This is a real art.
I searched “how does a stenograph work” and this is not only the best explanation on the first 2 pages, it is the only explanation. Thanks for it. You answered my questions exactly.
I had a witness watch your video before his deposition. It was very helpful in his understanding. It is hard to explain the complexities in a limited time and you've done it very well.
Wee need to see operater!!!...Jean is very good in court..She helped me allot in a Custady case!!.People in the court room pay attention when you hire a reporter.In my case I didnt have an attorney but I had Jean!!
I am a long-retired court reporter, having worked over 33 years in Superior Courts of Oregon, with most of the time being in Federal Courts, first in Oregon, then in Federal Courts in Oregon, Alaska, Nevada and, lastly, the Federal Court in the Southern District of CA at Los Angeles. I am also a WWII, Occupation of Germany and Korea war vet. I learned court reporting on the GI Bill, first at night school while stationed at the Presidio of San Francisco during the Korean War, then finishing at day school after I was discharged from the Korean War. Later, I easily passed the CA certified shorthand reporter test, becoming a CSR in CA. Then, later, I received the Certficate of Merit from the Nat'l Shorthand Court Reporters Assoc. Court reporting is a demanding, and sometimes stressful, occupation. When working what is known as a "daily copy" trial, two court reporters take turns recording the trial proceedings. I often worked a 15 minute session, then was relieved by another court reporter while I went to a nearby room and dictated my notes for a typist|transcriber. Depending on the length of the court session, the number of pages resulting in the daily transcript of proceedings, the trial transcript was delivered before midnight...sometimes not until early morning of the next day. This, of course, was the old days. Now, trial transcripts are prepared differently. Luckily, always a fast typist from my highschool days, I took to court reporting like a duck takes to water, finishing a two-year court reporting course in about six months. Too, I had the great good luck to be taught court reporting at the Bill Lenhardt School of Court Reporting in San Francisco in the early 50s. I can thank Bill for the extra time he spent with me for my later business successes. English grammar, vocabulary building and spelling were my favorite subjects in school, and that helped me immensely when reporting patent and other technical cases...my favorites.... in Federal Courts.
+hansli46 Wow, Hans, thanks for this. If you would like to chime in on some of the questions people ask me, you're welcome to. What an awesome career you've had. Have you ever thought about submitting an article to the JCR?I started out dictating, too, before computers took over. Daily copies are sooo stressful even with today's technology, I don't know how we ever did it back then!
I am truly humbled by your kind invitation, but I retired in '83 and know next to nothing about the Stenograph|computer developments since then. Thus, I don't know how I could be of any help to anyone interested in learning court reporting other than to encourage them to give it a try.
The thing that Dr. Stanley said that was life changing to me is, "Your self-worth is not based on performance." I had always believed in grace, but until it was put in those words, the meaning of grace never really sank in. Thanks for your nice comments.
Amazing! I've learned so much through you and have a new appreciation for court reporters and stenographers. Your video was very well done. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
thank you so much for this ...with subtitles and it is a boon for us deaf people as well to understand how this works....never mine hearies.....Thank you Jean for this input but I guess correctly all STTR work on a different platform of operation so varies...yup? as in yes?.....
When I went to school 30 years ago the requirement to graduate was question and answer at 225 words a minute for five minutes, literary at 180 words a minute and jury charge at 200 words a minute and I achieved the goal in a two-year period. At the same time I achieved an Associate of Business degree. I had to be very dedicated. It required hours and hours of practice.
Two years. I was very dedicated and practiced and practiced and practiced outside of school at night and on the weekends. I hope your have much success.
Even with this explained to me, it is so damn confusing. Have fun with your job security because I think I would rather shovel shit than learn how to do this. I say that with complete respect to you and your skills of course. Is it a lot of pressure doing this job? I would imagine feeling very stressed being an essential part in recording a court proceeding. Then again I don't know much about how court works having never been in a court of law.
Hi John. Yes, it is a lot of pressure. Esp when you are trying to report someone who speaks very fast, or mumbles or has a thick accent or speaks too softly, or all four at the same time!
Jean Rohrer I applaud you my dear. Recently took on some transcription job and it takes me hours to transcribe just 20 minutes of recording. Imagine if i had your skills. I applaud you.
My pleasure, Island. And good luck. My best advice is practice two hours a day OUTSIDE of school, which is what I did. Be dedicated and you will succeed. Also, I highly recommend joining a court reporting FaceBook group. Lots of great advice there.
Wow! I wish I had looked into this profession before I started university. It seems so fulfilling and enjoyable. Stressful of course but to be an imperative part of the court is amazing.
Hi Deitra, the first thing I had to figure out when I started captioning for church is there are two very distinct kinds of deaf people, People who are deaf from birth and people who become deaf later in life. People who are deaf from birth, the majority of the time, want a sign language interpreter, they do not want captioning. People who become deaf later in life want captioning because the majority of them do not know sign language.
This is insane, hahah.. I had no idea such a machine existed for this purpose. No wonder there is still such a shortage of you folks, this seems like a very difficult skill and line of work... I applaud you all, I would never have an interest in learning it.
Great video. You explained everything very well and kept it interesting which is tough considering the subject. Thank you so much for making this video.
We in CCAC and CaptionMatch are very pleased to see this, and say big thanks to Jean. It became part of continuing Captioning Advocacy also - something volunteers are doing every day for equal communication access online (with captioning). Cheers, Lauren Collaborative for Communication Access via Captioning (CCAC) and CaptionMatch - google us soon!
Thanks, Wenna! By shorthand if you mean making a record with no machine, just pen and paper, there probably are some of those kind of shorthand reporters still left somewhere in the world. lol but it's difficult enough with a court reporting machine, I can't imagine making a record with pen and paper.
If there are ever a bunch of people talking at once (such as lawyers arguing over one another, while judge is also trying to speak, etc.), can a court reporter ever ask the judge for a moment to, for lack of a better term "catch up"?
It depends on the courtroom, but generally, no. Attorneys usually are cognizant that what they're saying is being taken down. If it gets out of hand, sometimes a reporter can raise their hand and get everyone back on track.
Yes, Casey, 99 percent of the judges are very nice. I've even had them go out of their way to tell me if I ever need anything, to speak up. I always tell them I appreciate that. One time I needed to use the restroom badly, but it had only been 30 minutes since we had come back from lunch so I really didn't want to interrupt. So luckily we went off the record. I bolted out of the courtroom. When I returned the judge made a point to tell me if I ever needed a break I could interrupt. He must have seen my bolt! lol
Thank you for watching my video. I am confused by your question. Regular colleges do not teach court reporting, so how could you go to a regular college for court reporting? Since there is not a court reporting school where you live, my best advice is to start out by taking court reporting classes online.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, Brittany, and if I can do it, you can do it. There is a big demand for court reporters in some parts of the country. There are many reporters who are retiring and there are not enough new reporters to replace them. It is challenging. It takes tons of dedication, hours and hours of practice. But it is rewarding.
I'm on my exit level for high school and this is by far the most interesting career I have seen and it was the only thing that has caught my attention. I still don't understand how the machine works it, is quite complicated. I was just wondering how long did it take you to undergo the education process for a court reporting career and was the majority of that time the learning process for the stenotype?
I'm so confused, but props. I am so happy that I finally have an answer for this. In the very near future, this position will be replaced with accurate software, but we're not there yet. Unless people in your profession have many inaccurate recordings.
Jean Rohrer I think he means translation software, that someday we'll just be able to take live audio and have it auto transcribe right there in court. But he's right, we're not there yet.
Your video is fantastic, your skill is enviable, and your kindness in responding to people's comments is so wonderful to see on youtube. I'm 40 and thinking about changing careers to pursue a path in court reporting. I'm fascinated by the puzzle aspect of this machine combined with interpreting and transcribing what people say in real time. It actually seems a lot like playing a video game (I apologize if that's an insulting correlation...I'm a gamer so it comes to mind for me). In your opinion, do you think 40 is too old to attempt to learn this skill?
Daniel Stewart 40 is definitely not too old. I was that age when I decided to change my writing to catch up with technology, the realtime. I was taught a steno theory that had tons of conflicts and word boundary problems. We call Homonyms conflicts, and they are a real headache for people who try to write phonetically . Such as buy, bye, by, prefix bi- by-, suffix -by. I had to unlearn most of what I learned and re-learn. It's harder to unlearn than to learn. So if I could do it, you can! And Thank you so much for your kind words.
Dear Miss Rohrer. I wanted to thank you for making this video. I allways wanted to know how that ''thing'' is working because of how fast it has to be. So again thank you ;) PS. Did you ever had someone talking so fast you couldn't follow??
Thanks Jackie, I knew for many years I was saved by grace, but until Dr Stanley explained it in these words, "God's love for you is not based on performance", then I Finally really got it!
When I started court reporting there was no high-tech. I had to unlearn my court reporting training, and re-learn, which is more difficult than learning for the first time! I played clarinet for two years in junior high school, but I don't know if that qualifies me as a musician. lol Thank you for your comment.
This is so cool. It is like watching someone play piano (and I wish I had continued my piano lessons!) Was on the jury duty once (but not selected) - I think it was because I couldn't take my eyes off the court reporter's (soundless) typing.
Hiya Jean. In my day as a court Reporter, We didn't have all that hi-tech. I even taught Court Reporting 2 nights a week back then. Out of 30 to 35 Students, ONLY 1 or 2 made it and I took them to Court to practice. Jean, I'm extremely fast in typing, which has nothing to do with Stenotype. In my day, though, I came to the conclusion, whether I was right or not I don't know, but ALL Court Reporters working, and ones that made it thru school, were ALL MUSICIANS at one time or another.
This looks harder than learning shorthand. I did Gregg which is easier to learn but not as fast as Pitman. Words like two, too, or to were never an issue because it depended on context. Jean, is it true that courts are not allowed to audio tape court proceedings for the same reason they are not allowed to take photos and must use pencil sketches of people in the courtroom?
Matilda Faltyn No. That’s not true in Florida. Many court rooms use tape recorders. I tried taking shorthand in high school and got a C. And then I made a career out of shorthand. LOL
@Jean Rosher... Hi Jean! This is completely fascinating, seeing that I have always wondered how Stenograph Machines work, How words are typed/written SOOO fast, How the "Words/Alphabet" is set-up, What the "Keyboard" looks like, etc, etc... (The questions are quite endless... :D ) But, I am confused like some others... (Well, very confused...) Could you please explain HOW one "Gets" the letter "D" from pressing the "T" and the "K" button together? I just can't seem to understand that... Could you also explain, or Tell me/us if there are various/different keyboard layouts per the choice of the Stenographers preference??? (I did a bit of a search, and various pictures came up with some letters on the left, some on the right, some where you have to press two letters together, etc, etc.. If you could explain this/clear this up it would be MUCh appreciated! Thank you so much! God Bless! :)
Do you see the graph in the beginning of my video? that is how the keyboard is set up. The reason you use the T and the K together to get the initial D, well, that is the combination of letters we choose to use for the initial D sound. It's just like someone sat down and decided to say Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta for phonetic Police letters.. the T and the K together was the best combination. If a reporter wanted to use a different combination of letters, he or she could. We all make our own database and tell it that TKAD = dad. We call it our dictionary. We can program it any way we like. Mine has about 70,000 entries but some reporters have up to 200,000. Of course it's not possible to have every person's name, every street name, the name of every company and city in the world in our database so some things will not translate perfectly. Our dictionaries are always being updated. They are never finished.
do you ever have trouble typing on a regular keyboard? just curious because im pretty fast at typing and was wondering if that would translate onto a stenograph
Jean, thank you for this video, it was very insightful. I hope you're still checking this site. I have a question. What happens when you're finished transcribing? Do you have sign off on the find court report/record? Does it need to be notarized?
Does it always take active thought to transcribe, or do you get as used to it as you do a regular keyboard. i mean, once i learned the proper way to place my fingers on a regular keyboard and did my practice, i just think the words and my fingers type them out- i dont have to think about any of it at all. is that the same on this type of keying?
That was great, I feel I've really learnt something , as I have wondered how those machines work and how the girls can type so fast. Really interesting.
Yes, that's true. If you memorize a lot of short ways to write words that have more than one syllable and you memorize many short ways to write phrases, you can write faster. For example, I have memorized a way to write the common phrase, "on the other hand" in one stroke.
Every time a new speaker speaks, we start a new paragraph and identify the speaker. We also use different combinations of letters on our keyboards for punctuation. The next time you watch a LIVE interview on TV, turn the captioning on. You will see how the court reporter identifies the speakers.
hey there, can you tell me which steno machine you're using here and how much did it cost? I'm trying to find a good deal on a paperless steno like yours here, I'm having a hell of a time finding one that isn't thousands of dollars or maybe they look like good deals but they usually seem to be from shady sellers, not sure where to go for options.
Hi Chris, It's a Diamante from Stenograph. It cost $5300. Is there a reason you want a paperless writer? I know a lot of reporters that use the Stentura, which you can purchase used for $1200, and the reporters don't attach the paper tray. They just always connect to the computer instead, and it works very well for them.
Do you know why the inventor of the keyboard layout placed fewer keys on the left side? Did he not trust stenographers’ (usually) non-dominant hand? For comparison, composers of piano music are not at all forgiving in this regard. ;-) Also, why is the S key not split? This could make chords with less keys possible and perhaps (I don’t know very much about the stenotype system) offer more combinations to differentiate similar words. (BTW “Super Bowel” - very funny, thanks!)
I'm actually not sure what the inventor was thinking when he designed the keyboard or why the initial S is not split. I assume he put the S and T on both sides of the keyboard because they are such common letters. But they have come out with some new court reporting keyboards that have more keys. Great questions!
I really enjoyed this video. I have recently become aware of what stenography is and I'm curious in pursuing a career. Did you go to school? How long, where, and what do you major in? Basically what was your process in becoming a stenographer?
Hi Christina, I went to a physical school in Orlando 30 years ago. The school no longer exists. I went to school four days a week and practiced outside of school for two hours six days a week and finished in two years. The speed to graduate was 225 words per minute. I earned an Associate of Business in court reporting. I then passed the Registered Professional Reporter test that's administered by the National Court Reporting Assoc. , NCRA.org , two years after graduating. There are plenty of government court reporting jobs available around the country, some of which are listed on the NCRA.org. Where I live in Orlando there is plenty of freelance work, so that is the route I chose.
i found this really interesting to learn i had a question in order to be a court reporter what kind of diploma do you need does case catalyst count for this job?
claudia soto Hi Claudia, if there are no court reporting schools in your area, I would recommend trying an online school. To get a job, the best thing to do is join the National Court Reporting Assoc and take the RPR, which is the Registered Professional Reporter certification. It is a question and answer test at 225 words per minute. And/or get certified in whatever state you live in. Case Catalyst does not count for this job. That is just one of a few court reporting software you can buy to do your transcription. Good luck!
+TwilightFlip You have to listen to the context of the sentence, figure out which one it is, and then write it correctly. TOUGH! I write, your, KWROUR. You're, KWRAOUR. You are, UR.
Not only is voice recognition not sophisticated enough for multiples speakers, people don't say in everyday speech, question, what is your name, question mark. Court Reporters add punctuation and identify speakers each time they speak. Also when something is inaudible, a reporter will say, will you repeat that. Many people do not speak up or they mumble, or have an accent, or all three.
I've been looking into this as a career, and I'm just wondering if you could tell me a little bit about the schooling. There are schools specific for this and I was wondering if it is best to go to those, or take classes in just a regular college. I would have to move in order to go to those specific schools, and I'm just wondering if it's 'worth it' so to speak. Thank you for this great video!
Either a router or the internet. The software used to view our feed is called viewing software. There are different court reporting software, and I use what's called Eclipse, and the Bridge Mobile is the viewing software that goes with my court reporting software. Court Reporting is very IT intensive. So much so it is listed under IT now instead of administrative.
Hailey Douglas Yes, it is a Diamante. My laptop is a Dell. When buying a laptop, test the quality of the recording and playback WITH your reporting software. The recording on my Windows 8 Dell sounds good until I try to record with my software, then the quality goes to unusable.
Being a court reporter for 18 years, this is a very informative video. People.............we are not a dying field. We are in need of more court reporters. We are a unique bunch. GO FOR IT!!!!!
Is this job still in demand will this job still be needed
@Sero Suit Yes it is. More court reporters retire every year than new ones are created. The job is still in demand and will be needed for the foreseeable future.
@@Filbertfriendshould have thought this kind of job exists! I'm interested!
Great video. I think we all have always wanted to know this. But this broke my brain.
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I have wondered about this for years. Literally, years. Today finally looked it up. This was a great demo. I'd love to learn to use a Diamante. It's so impressive!
***** Thanks, Jan!
Same! I've always wondered how it worked exactly - and today I decided to look it up. Now we know. Very impressive, takes a sharp attention to detail and listening skills.
Thanks so much for sharing this - While on jury duty, I've always been fascinated how the court reporters are able to get everything down perfectly. This is a real art.
+Anne Bryson My pleasure!
I searched “how does a stenograph work” and this is not only the best explanation on the first 2 pages, it is the only explanation. Thanks for it. You answered my questions exactly.
I had a witness watch your video before his deposition. It was very helpful in his understanding. It is hard to explain the complexities in a limited time and you've done it very well.
Wee need to see operater!!!...Jean is very good in court..She helped me allot in a Custady case!!.People in the court room pay attention when you hire a reporter.In my case I didnt have an attorney but I had Jean!!
I am a long-retired court reporter, having worked over 33 years in Superior Courts of Oregon, with most of the time being in Federal Courts, first in Oregon, then in Federal Courts in Oregon, Alaska, Nevada and, lastly, the Federal Court in the Southern District of CA at Los Angeles. I am also a WWII, Occupation of Germany and Korea war vet. I learned court reporting on the GI Bill, first at night school while stationed at the Presidio of San Francisco during the Korean War, then finishing at day school after I was discharged from the Korean War. Later, I easily passed the CA certified shorthand reporter test, becoming a CSR in CA. Then, later, I received the Certficate of Merit from the Nat'l Shorthand Court Reporters Assoc. Court reporting is a demanding, and sometimes stressful, occupation. When working what is known as a "daily copy" trial, two court reporters take turns recording the trial proceedings. I often worked a 15 minute session, then was relieved by another court reporter while I went to a nearby room and dictated my notes for a typist|transcriber. Depending on the length of the court session, the number of pages resulting in the daily transcript of proceedings, the trial transcript was delivered before midnight...sometimes not until early morning of the next day. This, of course, was the old days. Now, trial transcripts are prepared differently. Luckily, always a fast typist from my highschool days, I took to court reporting like a duck takes to water, finishing a two-year court reporting course in about six months. Too, I had the great good luck to be taught court reporting at the Bill Lenhardt School of Court Reporting in San Francisco in the early 50s. I can thank Bill for the extra time he spent with me for my later business successes. English grammar, vocabulary building and spelling were my favorite subjects in school, and that helped me immensely when reporting patent and other technical cases...my favorites.... in Federal Courts.
+hansli46 Wow, Hans, thanks for this. If you would like to chime in on some of the questions people ask me, you're welcome to. What an awesome career you've had. Have you ever thought about submitting an article to the JCR?I started out dictating, too, before computers took over. Daily copies are sooo stressful even with today's technology, I don't know how we ever did it back then!
I am truly humbled by your kind invitation, but I retired in '83 and know next to nothing about the Stenograph|computer developments since then. Thus, I don't know how I could be of any help to anyone interested in learning court reporting other than to encourage them to give it a try.
the comment section isn't the place for autobiographies ahole
@@damason724 Comment sections weren't made for arrogant, micro-brain'd trashcans, like yourself.
@@transparentbystander253oh the irony in your comment.
The thing that Dr. Stanley said that was life changing to me is, "Your self-worth is not based on performance." I had always believed in grace, but until it was put in those words, the meaning of grace never really sank in. Thanks for your nice comments.
Thanks for explaining it so well! I was really curious.
You're welcome!
Amazing! I've learned so much through you and have a new appreciation for court reporters and stenographers. Your video was very well done. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
Hi Ktnrose,
Thank you for your comment. You made my day!
This is by far the best stenography explanation I've view on RUclips. Well done
Thank you!
This is awesome; I had been searching on RUclips for a simple video on how a stenowriter works and this is the best yet
Glad you found it informative!
It would be one heck of a way to write down the note / lecture if I were young and back in school.
Best video explaining how this thing works. Great job.
Thank you!
Thanks for taking the time. Very interesting.
thank you so much for this ...with subtitles and it is a boon for us deaf people as well to understand how this works....never mine hearies.....Thank you Jean for this input but I guess correctly all STTR work on a different platform of operation so varies...yup? as in yes?.....
When I went to school 30 years ago the requirement to graduate was question and answer at 225 words a minute for five minutes, literary at 180 words a minute and jury charge at 200 words a minute and I achieved the goal in a two-year period. At the same time I achieved an Associate of Business degree. I had to be very dedicated. It required hours and hours of practice.
Two years. I was very dedicated and practiced and practiced and practiced outside of school at night and on the weekends. I hope your have much success.
Thank you for sharing this Jean Roher...this is a great look as to how it works. Thanks for sharing this.
I've always wanted to know how stenography worked. Thanks for the great explanation!
And lol at the "super bowel party" haha
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Hmm very interesting! I always wanted to know how court reporting worked(just curious), now I know. Thank you for sharing! :)
My pleasure! I'm glad it was informative.
Great and simplistic explanation
Thank you for posting this. It's an amazing skill you have developed. I appreciate you sharing a little of the "how".
My pleasure, Chad! Thanks for the compliment. And, yes, it was a skilled obtained through blood, sweat and tears. lol
Thanks for posting this. I have been interested in it for awhile.
thank you for sharing. I didn't realize how useful this skill is outside of court reporting. Very good examples.
So glad you found it informative!
Even with this explained to me, it is so damn confusing. Have fun with your job security because I think I would rather shovel shit than learn how to do this. I say that with complete respect to you and your skills of course. Is it a lot of pressure doing this job? I would imagine feeling very stressed being an essential part in recording a court proceeding. Then again I don't know much about how court works having never been in a court of law.
Hi John. Yes, it is a lot of pressure. Esp when you are trying to report someone who speaks very fast, or mumbles or has a thick accent or speaks too softly, or all four at the same time!
Jean Rohrer I applaud you my dear. Recently took on some transcription job and it takes me hours to transcribe just 20 minutes of recording. Imagine if i had your skills. I applaud you.
Racquel Whyte Racquel, thank you so much for your comment. You made my day!
You are welcome.
john papple it is only the confused mind that chooses the clear mind has no choice
This is such a great video.. I start CR school in 1 week... some great questions answered here! :) Thanks Jean!
My pleasure, Island. And good luck. My best advice is practice two hours a day OUTSIDE of school, which is what I did. Be dedicated and you will succeed. Also, I highly recommend joining a court reporting FaceBook group. Lots of great advice there.
Wow! I wish I had looked into this profession before I started university. It seems so fulfilling and enjoyable. Stressful of course but to be an imperative part of the court is amazing.
Hils C Thank you!
Hi Deitra, the first thing I had to figure out when I started captioning for church is there are two very distinct kinds of deaf people, People who are deaf from birth and people who become deaf later in life. People who are deaf from birth, the majority of the time, want a sign language interpreter, they do not want captioning. People who become deaf later in life want captioning because the majority of them do not know sign language.
Finally, someone explained it well
This is insane, hahah.. I had no idea such a machine existed for this purpose. No wonder there is still such a shortage of you folks, this seems like a very difficult skill and line of work... I applaud you all, I would never have an interest in learning it.
Thank you for your kind words
If you want any more in-depth explanation see court reporting versus voice recognition
Great video. You explained everything very well and kept it interesting which is tough considering the subject. Thank you so much for making this video.
Thank you!
We in CCAC and CaptionMatch are very pleased to see this, and say big thanks to Jean. It became part of continuing Captioning Advocacy also - something volunteers are doing every day for equal communication access online (with captioning).
Cheers, Lauren
Collaborative for Communication Access via Captioning (CCAC) and CaptionMatch - google us soon!
I was under the impression that courts used shorthand. This is incredible though and you make it look so easy!
Thanks, Wenna! By shorthand if you mean making a record with no machine, just pen and paper, there probably are some of those kind of shorthand reporters still left somewhere in the world. lol but it's difficult enough with a court reporting machine, I can't imagine making a record with pen and paper.
If there are ever a bunch of people talking at once (such as lawyers arguing over one another, while judge is also trying to speak, etc.), can a court reporter ever ask the judge for a moment to, for lack of a better term "catch up"?
It depends on the courtroom, but generally, no. Attorneys usually are cognizant that what they're saying is being taken down. If it gets out of hand, sometimes a reporter can raise their hand and get everyone back on track.
THANKS!
Yes, Casey, 99 percent of the judges are very nice. I've even had them go out of their way to tell me if I ever need anything, to speak up. I always tell them I appreciate that. One time I needed to use the restroom badly, but it had only been 30 minutes since we had come back from lunch so I really didn't want to interrupt. So luckily we went off the record. I bolted out of the courtroom. When I returned the judge made a point to tell me if I ever needed a break I could interrupt. He must have seen my bolt! lol
Yes, being the keeper of the Record is a big and important responsibility.
So can/do you configure it yourself or is it the same for all reporters.?
C SMITH court reporting versus voice recognition. If you watch this video you can see court reporters can program any waythey want.
Great job explaining this complex process!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, everything covered.
Thank you for your time, doing this.
An amazing device, updated with the electronic devices.
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Cheers.
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Still a little confused, but thank you! I did always wonder how those funny little machines worked!
This is more detailed:
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Thank you for watching my video. I am confused by your question. Regular colleges do not teach court reporting, so how could you go to a regular college for court reporting? Since there is not a court reporting school where you live, my best advice is to start out by taking court reporting classes online.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, Brittany, and if I can do it, you can do it. There is a big demand for court reporters in some parts of the country. There are many reporters who are retiring and there are not enough new reporters to replace them. It is challenging. It takes tons of dedication, hours and hours of practice. But it is rewarding.
I'm on my exit level for high school and this is by far the most interesting career I have seen and it was the only thing that has caught my attention. I still don't understand how the machine works it, is quite complicated. I was just wondering how long did it take you to undergo the education process for a court reporting career and was the majority of that time the learning process for the stenotype?
Explained well Pamela in Detroit 2024
Wow your finger Movement, very smooth. Pamela in Detroit
Thank you!
Coutrney is two syllables so it would be two strokes:
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the TPH is the intial "N" sound and the AOE is long "E"
Very informative, thanks Jean.
My pleasure
Is this how song lyrics are made? Or captions for videos?
anonymous gamer2106 If you’re watching a live show, the captions are being done by a court reporter, yes.
wow this is actually more tougher than other jobs. Congrats!
It is difficult! Takes tons of practice and total dedication.
I'm so confused, but props. I am so happy that I finally have an answer for this. In the very near future, this position will be replaced with accurate software, but we're not there yet. Unless people in your profession have many inaccurate recordings.
Not sure what your last two sentences mean, but I'm glad I could provide an answer for this!
Jean Rohrer I think he means translation software, that someday we'll just be able to take live audio and have it auto transcribe right there in court. But he's right, we're not there yet.
***** Yes, that will be a great day when somebody hands me a machine that can translate utterances that even my human brain can't decipher!
Great video and neat skills
Your video is fantastic, your skill is enviable, and your kindness in responding to people's comments is so wonderful to see on youtube.
I'm 40 and thinking about changing careers to pursue a path in court reporting. I'm fascinated by the puzzle aspect of this machine combined with interpreting and transcribing what people say in real time. It actually seems a lot like playing a video game (I apologize if that's an insulting correlation...I'm a gamer so it comes to mind for me).
In your opinion, do you think 40 is too old to attempt to learn this skill?
Daniel Stewart 40 is definitely not too old. I was that age when I decided to change my writing to catch up with technology, the realtime. I was taught a steno theory that had tons of conflicts and word boundary problems. We call Homonyms conflicts, and they are a real headache for people who try to write phonetically . Such as buy, bye, by, prefix bi- by-, suffix -by. I had to unlearn most of what I learned and re-learn. It's harder to unlearn than to learn. So if I could do it, you can! And Thank you so much for your kind words.
Dear Miss Rohrer.
I wanted to thank you for making this video.
I allways wanted to know how that ''thing'' is working because of how fast it has to be. So again thank you ;)
PS. Did you ever had someone talking so fast you couldn't follow??
Hi Aj, thank you for your kind words. Yes, sometimes people talk too fast. In those instances I have to ask them to slow down.
Where does one find the super bowel party though? These are the real questions.
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Very informative video and well done and so very nice you played a clip from Dr Stanley's sermon:))
Thanks Jackie, I knew for many years I was saved by grace, but until Dr Stanley explained it in these words, "God's love for you is not based on performance", then I Finally really got it!
When I started court reporting there was no high-tech. I had to unlearn my court reporting training, and re-learn, which is more difficult than learning for the first time! I played clarinet for two years in junior high school, but I don't know if that qualifies me as a musician. lol Thank you for your comment.
Yes. Any time someone says something a reporter doesn't understand, the reporter may ask for it to be repeated.
I studied this technology in the 1960s and used it until 1975. Surprisingly, I can still remember the key strokes.
Wow!
I am glad you found it interesting! Thank you.
that's such an awesome skill. i mean it's english, but it's like a completely different language.
This is so cool. It is like watching someone play piano (and I wish I had continued my piano lessons!)
Was on the jury duty once (but not selected) - I think it was because I couldn't take my eyes off the court reporter's (soundless) typing.
Hi Wtin, Thank you for your comment!
Just bought Gregg shorthand manual. It looks daunting, but I am going to take some time to learn it. Thank you for video again. It is really cool!
Wtin Jalanugraha My pleasure!
thanks! much appreciated. one more question, what skills do you suggest one develop in order to become a successful court reporter?
So all key combinations to make a word using the steno are memorized?
Yes!
Thank you for the video! I've always wondered how this worked. Also, I love Dr. Stanley! =)
I agree. Dr. Stanley rocks!
Wow. Thanks, Jay, for that wonderful comment.
Nice video, I love your soft voice!!
Hiya Jean. In my day as a court Reporter, We didn't have all that hi-tech.
I even taught Court Reporting 2 nights a week back then. Out of 30 to 35 Students, ONLY 1 or 2 made it and I took them to Court to practice.
Jean, I'm extremely fast in typing, which has nothing to do with Stenotype. In my day, though, I came to the conclusion, whether I was right or not I don't know, but ALL Court Reporters working, and ones that made it thru school, were ALL MUSICIANS at one time or another.
Yes, there is a 90 percent drop-out rate. It takes great determination.
What !!! A TK is a D. I watched this 3 times. My brain gets lost. Thank God you can do it. Your wonderful.
Thanks for the nice comment!
when i grow up i really want to work on this or to be news reporter or to even host the show gma or something this really interested me al ot
i found this extremely interesting. well done!
This looks harder than learning shorthand. I did Gregg which is easier to learn but not as fast as Pitman. Words like two, too, or to were never an issue because it depended on context.
Jean, is it true that courts are not allowed to audio tape court proceedings for the same reason they are not allowed to take photos and must use pencil sketches of people in the courtroom?
Matilda Faltyn No. That’s not true in Florida. Many court rooms use tape recorders.
I tried taking shorthand in high school and got a C. And then I made a career out of shorthand. LOL
@Jean Rosher... Hi Jean! This is completely fascinating, seeing that I have always wondered how Stenograph Machines work, How words are typed/written SOOO fast, How the "Words/Alphabet" is set-up, What the "Keyboard" looks like, etc, etc... (The questions are quite endless... :D )
But, I am confused like some others... (Well, very confused...)
Could you please explain HOW one "Gets" the letter "D" from pressing the "T" and the "K" button together? I just can't seem to understand that...
Could you also explain, or Tell me/us if there are various/different keyboard layouts per the choice of the Stenographers preference??? (I did a bit of a search, and various pictures came up with some letters on the left, some on the right, some where you have to press two letters together, etc, etc..
If you could explain this/clear this up it would be MUCh appreciated! Thank you so much! God Bless! :)
Do you see the graph in the beginning of my video? that is how the keyboard is set up. The reason you use the T and the K together to get the initial D, well, that is the combination of letters we choose to use for the initial D sound. It's just like someone sat down and decided to say Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta for phonetic Police letters.. the T and the K together was the best combination. If a reporter wanted to use a different combination of letters, he or she could. We all make our own database and tell it that TKAD = dad. We call it our dictionary. We can program it any way we like. Mine has about 70,000 entries but some reporters have up to 200,000. Of course it's not possible to have every person's name, every street name, the name of every company and city in the world in our database so some things will not translate perfectly. Our dictionaries are always being updated. They are never finished.
do you ever have trouble typing on a regular keyboard? just curious because im pretty fast at typing and was wondering if that would translate onto a stenograph
Jean, thank you for this video, it was very insightful. I hope you're still checking this site. I have a question. What happens when you're finished transcribing? Do you have sign off on the find court report/record? Does it need to be notarized?
Yes, I have to sign a Reporter Certificate on each transcript. My Reporter Certificate does not need to be notarized.
It was a fun challenge figuring out how to caption it. It is pretty wild watching the caption translate to Japanese just for fun!
Does it always take active thought to transcribe, or do you get as used to it as you do a regular keyboard. i mean, once i learned the proper way to place my fingers on a regular keyboard and did my practice, i just think the words and my fingers type them out- i dont have to think about any of it at all. is that the same on this type of keying?
Yes. I never have to look at my fingers on the keyboard. I could do it in the dark. lol
thats cool! it seems like its so complicated one might not get used to it.
This was very informative! thank you for sharing!
No, I never have a problem transitioning from the court reporting machine keyboard to a regular keyboard because the two are completely different.
Can you please let me know at what speed (wpm) you were writing there? Thanks! :)
That was great, I feel I've really learnt something , as I have wondered how those machines work and how the girls can type so fast. Really interesting.
julie Nicholson Thank you!
I understand you can create your own dictionary on the steno machine to improve your speed.
Yes, that's true. If you memorize a lot of short ways to write words that have more than one syllable and you memorize many short ways to write phrases, you can write faster. For example, I have memorized a way to write the common phrase, "on the other hand" in one stroke.
how do you separate two people talking?
Probably by formatting; new line, hyphens, etc.
Every time a new speaker speaks, we start a new paragraph and identify the speaker. We also use different combinations of letters on our keyboards for punctuation. The next time you watch a LIVE interview on TV, turn the captioning on. You will see how the court reporter identifies the speakers.
Wow! Watching you write so accuaretly is so amazing! I'm in 200s right now and I can't write this perfect! :/
hey there, can you tell me which steno machine you're using here and how much did it cost? I'm trying to find a good deal on a paperless steno like yours here, I'm having a hell of a time finding one that isn't thousands of dollars or maybe they look like good deals but they usually seem to be from shady sellers, not sure where to go for options.
Hi Chris, It's a Diamante from Stenograph. It cost $5300. Is there a reason you want a paperless writer? I know a lot of reporters that use the Stentura, which you can purchase used for $1200, and the reporters don't attach the paper tray. They just always connect to the computer instead, and it works very well for them.
I meant to say First Baptist Church of Atlanta not Orlando
thank u v much for sharing this
My pleasure
Thank you for this very informational video.
It's my pleasure.
Hi. Where do I get a stenotype machine like yours? Thanks
You can go on Stenograph.com.
That is so interesting, I have always wondered how this was done, thanks!!
My Pleasure!
Do you know why the inventor of the keyboard layout placed fewer keys on the left side? Did he not trust stenographers’ (usually) non-dominant hand? For comparison, composers of piano music are not at all forgiving in this regard. ;-)
Also, why is the S key not split? This could make chords with less keys possible and perhaps (I don’t know very much about the stenotype system) offer more combinations to differentiate similar words. (BTW “Super Bowel” - very funny, thanks!)
I'm actually not sure what the inventor was thinking when he designed the keyboard or why the initial S is not split. I assume he put the S and T on both sides of the keyboard because they are such common letters. But they have come out with some new court reporting keyboards that have more keys. Great questions!
Thank you for this wonderful insight!
My pleasure!
Ive always wondered about this, very informative. Thank for sharing:))
Moonlight Shadow My pleasure, Moonlight!
Moonlight Shadow I love your username!
I really enjoyed this video. I have recently become aware of what stenography is and I'm curious in pursuing a career. Did you go to school? How long, where, and what do you major in? Basically what was your process in becoming a stenographer?
Hi Christina, I went to a physical school in Orlando 30 years ago. The school no longer exists. I went to school four days a week and practiced outside of school for two hours six days a week and finished in two years. The speed to graduate was 225 words per minute. I earned an Associate of Business in court reporting. I then passed the Registered Professional Reporter test that's administered by the National Court Reporting Assoc. , NCRA.org , two years after graduating. There are plenty of government court reporting jobs available around the country, some of which are listed on the NCRA.org. Where I live in Orlando there is plenty of freelance work, so that is the route I chose.
i found this really interesting to learn i had a question in order to be a court reporter what kind of diploma do you need does case catalyst count for this job?
claudia soto Hi Claudia, if there are no court reporting schools in your area, I would recommend trying an online school. To get a job, the best thing to do is join the National Court Reporting Assoc and take the RPR, which is the Registered Professional Reporter certification. It is a question and answer test at 225 words per minute. And/or get certified in whatever state you live in. Case Catalyst does not count for this job. That is just one of a few court reporting software you can buy to do your transcription. Good luck!
What kind of camera shots 16:9 at such a low rez?
Sorry, Kooky, I am not sure what you're asking except maybe to say my video was filmed with an iPhone.
What happens with homonyms and words like your/you're and their/there/they're?
+TwilightFlip You have to listen to the context of the sentence, figure out which one it is, and then write it correctly. TOUGH! I write, your, KWROUR. You're, KWRAOUR. You are, UR.
why isn't there some speech recognition or speech to type software/hardware available that can do this job?
There is but government gets in the way. No joke.
Not only is voice recognition not sophisticated enough for multiples speakers, people don't say in everyday speech, question, what is your name, question mark. Court Reporters add punctuation and identify speakers each time they speak. Also when something is inaudible, a reporter will say, will you repeat that. Many people do not speak up or they mumble, or have an accent, or all three.
I've been looking into this as a career, and I'm just wondering if you could tell me a little bit about the schooling. There are schools specific for this and I was wondering if it is best to go to those, or take classes in just a regular college. I would have to move in order to go to those specific schools, and I'm just wondering if it's 'worth it' so to speak. Thank you for this great video!
hey I have another question for ya, how are you able to get your steno to show on your iPad?
Either a router or the internet. The software used to view our feed is called viewing software. There are different court reporting software, and I use what's called Eclipse, and the Bridge Mobile is the viewing software that goes with my court reporting software. Court Reporting is very IT intensive. So much so it is listed under IT now instead of administrative.
CR student here.. What laptop do you use? And is that Diamanté ?
Hailey Douglas Yes, it is a Diamante. My laptop is a Dell. When buying a laptop, test the quality of the recording and playback WITH your reporting software. The recording on my Windows 8 Dell sounds good until I try to record with my software, then the quality goes to unusable.