'So you're comparing refugees to bacteria?': James O'Brien clashes with caller
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- This video clip is from an LBC show presented by James O'Brein on December 15th 2022.
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"Charity begins at home" every right-winger ever.
"Not my job to feed your kids" also every right-winger ever.
basically......the hypocrisy and lack of humanity is apparent in these virtue signalers
Well said, I wish I could like your comment more than once!
"We should help our own". Then when it comes to helping our own, "it's not my job to feed your kids...if you can't afford them then don't have them....". Or there's, "why should I pay for someone else to go to university?" The 'we should help our own' line is just an excuse to justify their bigotry and hate; we all know these are the same people who oppose free school meals, don't give a toss about homeless people but pretend they do to suit their own narrative and who just resent any of their taxes being spent on anything that doesn't benefit them directly - simple as that
Why is everyone a right winger if they do not want illegals coming in to the country?
But you're Okay until it effects you right?
The caller doesn't want to help homeless veterans, he just wants to use them as an excuse to not help refugees.
He was giving an example of how the UK is struggling to support its own people and does not have the infrastructure and money to support even more people from abroad
@@Daniel58345 so we should have zero immigration? We need them to do the jobs that our own country won't do. No immigration would hurt more than you realise.
@@stingersplash We should have a lot less than the 1.1 million incoming year ending June 2022. Half a million have left the workforce since the pandemic, and now 10% of young people say they have no intention of working.
@@Daniel58345 This.
@@stingersplash
You do talk some boll*cks.
"If you think me comparing refugees to bacteria is bad, then that's on you" is such an amazing take. They act like everyone else forgot implied meanings exist.
My dad is the same way. He constantly makes comments that imply terrible statements, but acts as though if you point it out that it is "putting words in his mouth," just because he didn't say the implied statement outright. He also doesn't think the tone used to say something is relevant to what message is being delivered.
@@finris1 Oh he knows, he is just a coward
@@Imperial-Socialist He didn't compare them to bacteria. He used what's called an analogy, James O Brian is just to thick to understand the difference.
@@jawsjaws4018”he didn’t compare them to bacteria. He used an analogy”
Analogy: a COMPARISON between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
You were saying?
@@jawsjaws4018 comparing two things is literally the point of an analogy you dolt
"They're all taking our jobs" "none of them have a job and all are on benefits"
Same rhetoric as American conservatives. Here we call this concept "Schrodinger's Immigrant". Simultaneously in the state of "taking all jobs" and "being unemployed and getting free stuff".
@@IndigoVagrantJames himself actually references the term explicitly in his book “How to be Right”
Charity begins at home. But not when it comes to paying nurses a decent whack, of course...... that would mean higher taxes for the rich, wouldn't it?
Don’t the rich pay more tax than anyone as it is? Taxing success and demoralising aspiration, thus reducing growth and productivity is one of the true horrors of socialism. Why not go after the energy companies and the multi millionaire non doms instead.
....and the not so rich...?
It would mean higher taxes for everyone....
Decent pay is not charity.
@@searan5130 Even the Express is saying the rich should pay £28bn more in tax to fund a pay rise.
When you dehumanise, any group of people, it will make it easier for the public to treat them and talk to them on a subhuman level
Many of them are on a sub human level.
Just like O’Brien talks to those who disagree with him you mean.😂
@@nick1065 I don’t see him chasing phone calls.
@@terrenceroll3848 would rather have an immigrant who loves my country so much that they risk life and limb to be a part of it than a resident who hates people due to where they were born.
@@unknown5150variable They don't love the country or the people, they love the money and services. They have no loyalty to the country, they don't even have loyalty to their own countries. Hopefully one day you can be deported with them to create a mongrelized paradise in africa.
What a truly worrying country this is becoming.
How?
@@adamibrahim7338really? If i have to explain it, then there's no point.
It's becoming Europe's "sh*thole".
@@ThomasKing19933 ❄️
@@adamibrahim7338right 🤣🤣
Using the plight of veterans as a weapon. That is disgusting.
👍🏽
Truth hurts
@@sidonthebank funny how the same people saying that didn't give a toss about the vets on the streets a few years ago, they never mentioned it, most of them just walked past. Now all of a sudden they care?.... Pull the other one!
@@sidonthebank The Tories have had 12 years to tackle these problems - why haven't they?
The homeless charity Shelter has highlited the plight of homeless veterans fo years, yet Conservative government, and councils have ignored the warnings.
@Jeff Suter let's deal with the present outrageous situation waffling about the past isn't going to solve anything action speaks louder then words
This guy needs to listen to the best line from A Christmas Carol at the end. "the girl is want, the boy is ignorance. Beware them both, but beware the boy most of all"
Help our own always comes back to "veterans".....and literally no one else. And lets be honest, he doesnt want to help veterans either.
The ironic thing is a lot of veterans are personally responsible for getting involved in illegal wars which de-stabilised many of the countries from which the refugees are being forced to flee from.
lol true ...
It never fails to amaze me that guys like this who don't want to offer sanctuary to refugees because "we need to help our own" are the same type of people who were phoning in and saying "if you can't afford to feed your kids you shouldn't have kids" during the school meals crisis resulting from the lockdown.
But it's kind of true though. Why aren't all homeless people put up in hotels?
@@PpPp-ku4sy I think the point regarding immigrants is a seperate one. A lot of them can easily become useful members of our society and they shouldnt be used as political capital
Of course this idea that refugees are desperate to quit France and Germany for the UK is nonsense. Both countries take many, many, many more refugees than does the UK. The ones that prefer to cross the channel have specific reasons like speaking English or having family/friends in the UK. Further, under the UN convention, refugees have the right to seek asylum wherever they want. There is no safe country criteria. That was one aspect of the EU's Dublin accords which relocated refugees throughout Europe. The UK of course decided to ditch that agreement.
Yeah and Germany and France are also BIGGER than the UK and less densely populated, we are an overpopulated country and we have way too many immigrants as it is we can’t take anyone it’s physically destroying this country
@@adambb22 That's utter nonsense. No room for immigrants but desperately short of labour in many sectors. And Germany, France and Spain are the main recepients of refugees in the EU. Germany received nearly 1800 applications for asylum per million of population. The UK 832 per million. And the UK is nowhere near "full"; have a look at the population density in places like the Netherlands which itself takes more.refugees than the UK. Many more.
@@brianbarcroft9167 no ur talking utter nonsense u muppet, yes Netherlands is more densely populated than us but that is their problem so don’t care about them, I’m talking about our country which is too densely populated aswell, ffs just look at the latest census it’s a complete joke, their are way too many immigrants in this country already, we actually have quite a low birth in Europe but out population is the fast growing in Europe because off immigration, we have one off the lowest tree covers in Europe but more and more trees are being destroyed for more houses and shops to accommodate these immigrants, u seriously need to wake up if u don’t think it’s a major problem because people like u are part of the problem
Exactly.
@@brianbarcroft9167 Looks like he deleted his comment 😂
I want to quickly remind that an ex prime minister used the term "swarm".
Accurate.
@@terrenceroll3848 why is it you hate someone who is different to you?
@@Tony-gg3nd I do not hate immigrants, i just don't want ILLEGAL immigrants who are coming from a SAFE country like Albania who are coming here to join organised crime.
Flooding a country with hundreds of thousands of people in a small amount of time is going to cause havoc on public services and of course increase the price of housing even more than it currently is. Don't you DARE use the racism card, it had nothing to do with race.
Oh dear a figure of speech, so what? Keep these ILLEGAL immigrants OUT of the UK NOW. That is my wish and my opinion.
Correct answer
The caller literally has no idea of how other people around the world live.
Same bloke will still vote Tory in the next election even though he has the "this country has gone to the dogs" attitude
...and you will vote Labour whatever happens...what's the difference....?
The caller kind of won the argument. James was just changing the subject when he lost then started being pretty.
@@PpPp-ku4sy It's pathetic, but that's what James does when he feels he hasn't got the better of a caller he disagrees with.
@@chatham43 the difference being that always voting Labour is always better than always voting Tory. 🤡👍🏽
And I say this as someone who has never voted Tory but hasn't always voted Labour.
It’s Essex. Even if - hopefully - the Tories have a crushing defeat at the next election, Essex is likely to be a safe haven.
Callers like this are just as likely to switch to Farage’s latest enterprise.
Gotta love how similar right wingers are even across the pond.
Ditto for left wingers.
@English Bulldog common sense didn't stop anywhere close to you.
Britannia went all over the place and made people speak English. English is the language of business and depending on which metric you use, the most spoken language in the world. You find it odd that someone might try to go to a country where they may be able to understand the language? You find it odd that people try to go to a country where they may have relatives?
It's so tiring, as it's been shown refugees and or immigrants input more into a nation than the take.
@English Bulldog Mate British people went where they liked for a thousand years. Boots on the other foot now.
@englishbulldog954 Who told you that Farage .???...As normal he's wrong, they can claim Asylum in ANY Country they wish ...May I suggest you do some research before posting and making yourself luck a right plonker ..😘😘😘
This is what the nazis did, they made comparisons to the Jews as insects and rodents and other things in an attempt to dehumanise them
People always bring up nazis. Smh
Grow up buffon
@@Frank.and.Beanzz Because it's a fair comparison. A bit like how the Home Sec calling refugees and asylum seekers 'invaders' is the same language the National Front & BNP used against her parents.
@@mrsunshine6422 hatred often starts with words and ends in violence too unfortunately
@@Frank.and.Beanzz dont like that mirror being held up mate?
"'Homeless Veterans' 'Kids in social care' - Why don't we take care of them first?" Asked the man who'd openly ignore such groups 99.9% of the time.
....friend of yours?...
@@chatham43 erm…what?
How do you know he ignores such groups? Sounds like you are making an assumption, do you personally know the caller ?
@@mgoode180566 because he sounds like every right winger ever?
Given that he projects a socially aware opinion and you see otherwise I think that says more about your character than his!
Unfortunately here in America we hear this same vile language against human beings. Invasion is a dangerous word with the amount of hate that accompanies the actions taken.
Luckily for us our bigoted lunatics aren't armed with guns, so it could be worse. Really hope America passes some sensible gun reform laws sooner rather than later
Imagine that all it would take for an invasion was to send a few families over. Better keep this a secret from Putin or it's all over.
Invasion is an accurate term.
We always forget that England is the US's mom.
Yep--standard Republican line here.
My question, when they bring up the veterans and social housing and the children, is: Okay so who's stopping you from campaigning to solve these issues that you've mentioned. Why aren't you out in the streets protesting with signs and chants that people are freezing and starving? Seriously, we all care about those, a lot of us are asking to increase the benefits system and make it more helpful for those in suffering, if you care so much about these issues why did you vote for a party that demonstrably has shrunk the benefits system over the last decade.
I think these problems are not solved (they could be if there was political will) so that there is always an excuse for not doing anything to aid a different set of people.
@@threethymes That rings plausible. Having a potenially bigger problem to point at as a scapegoat for why you're not dealing with a different arguably smaller problem.
It's scary how effecitve of a tactic it is considering it's a fallacy. since they're claiming they can't solve a problem because of a different problem they're also not solving.
@@threethymes I asked someone smarter than me (ChatGPT)
The type of fallacy you are describing is called the "fallacy of relative privation" or the "appeal to worse problems." This is a type of argument in which the person making the argument attempts to downplay the importance of a problem by pointing out that there are other, "worse" problems that should be dealt with first. This type of argument is fallacious because it ignores the fact that it is possible to address multiple problems at the same time, and that solving one problem does not necessarily mean that other problems will automatically be solved. Additionally, this type of argument often involves a failure to take action on the issue at hand, and instead focuses on deflecting attention to other problems as a way of avoiding addressing the issue at hand.
TIL...
Because it's easier to blame an external factor and do nothing, than to fix the problem?
Exactly. Homeless veterans? Isn't that a government issue since they've been in power 12 years, and you voted 3 or 4 timesfor?
In a list of countries with refugees per 1000 population we are 60th!! And we're the 5th richest country in the world. Why is this a problem when the Tories want power?
We are NOT the 5th richest country in the world, France is. And we are going down the scale.
It's a "problem" when the Tories need to deflect attention away from their latest set of scandals. Remember how before all this kicked off again the main problem was how Braverman was a massive security risk and broke the ministerial code 6 times? Twice on one day? The kind of things any regular pleb would have been fired on the spot for (oh wait, she was! then got her job back) and potentially be facing prison time.
One of the smallest as well
That doesn't mean we have to accept them. Not our problem. This country cannot be a global charity. Wake Up!
@@Daniel58345 But France has ? Or if they are also NOT France's problem , who's problem should they be ?
Oh, I know ... they could just be civil and DIE without disturbing your morning ...right , monster ?
There really shouldn’t be such a thing as racism in a civilised society.
But those in power need you to want their support, and barring being at war with someone, they create a threat that doesn’t and shouldn’t exist.
If you think about it rationally, we are all brothers and sisters, having descended from the African peoples who migrated to populate the world.
Im 58 and Black, realized that at the age of 15... why doesnt the general white population see it after decades and decades!
Hopefully there will eventually come a day when my dream of one species, one state, culture will be accomplished. Though sadly, it seems we are still millennia away from it. Too divided by petty nationalism that glorified the patch of dirt a person happened to be born on.
Humanity will always be divided and will invent reasons to do so
We like to feel superior to everyone else and to do that you have to devalue others
I never understand why people try to link refugees to veterans.
They're two completely separate issues that are in no way related. If you really care about veteran care and housing, why aren't you campaigning for taxing the rich to pay for better conditions for veterans?
Oh, right. Because it's just an excuse to rant about refugees
Honestly you have no idea
@@sammills62 About what, exactly?
Taxing the rich more would result in many of them leaving the UK.
@@davidz3879 That's the common threat. Funnily, it never happens though. It's almost like they don't want to change every aspect of their life just to save a few quid that they know full well they don't even need.
Don't let B.S talking points fool you
@@BeardiusMaximus It does happen. It's not a few quid - it's tens or hundreds of thousand pounds.
David: "...let alone paying the bills for the rest of the world." A fine example of a Braverman Boy.
When did this country fall so low & compassion become a thing of the past.
About 2010?
Ever since the Right wing of Tory Party saw their chance with Brexit.
@@stephenreeds3632 Nevermind.
@@chrism-kt7es We had compassion before 2010? Because I recall these exact arguments in the public sphere all the way through the noughties. Poland joining the EU was a particularly memorable one.
Murdoch?
It's really remarkable how many people don't feel ashamed to talk about human beings as "bacteria" and "invaders", how they don't see it as a profound mental weakness nor make any effort to hide their antisocial behaviour.
James did not answer the question, he asked why leave France where it’s safe and better than their home country, to risk your life for Britain, also some are not refugees but economic immigrants. James did not answer the question
Imagine these people making the same arguments to Ukranian refugees. My parents are housing (and currently helping get council housing for) a Ukranian family who fled their home country, stayed briefly in Romania and got processed in Poland before coming here. And yet, I didn't hear or read right wingers arguing in the press that they had moved to safe countries so shouldn't come to Britain.
They do not compare at all, when i last looked Albania was not fighting a war.
Ukraine is being invaded. Last time I checked France isn’t. Keep up
The last time I checked, the west of Ukraine wasn't in conflict. In fact you can go into Ukrainian web cams and see it is evidently peaceful there.
I'll also state that the UK when it was being bombed to oblivion during world war two, the population wasn't evacuated to another country.
Even the people who were evacuated school age children were quickly brought back home as it negatively affected moral and the war effort.
On top of that, kids under the school age were not evacuated at all, I know my mother wasn't. She remembered the bombs falling on Newcastle.
Talking of Newcastle, we had a load of Ukrainians marching here demanding the British open a no fly zone over their country which would have led to direct confrontation between NATO and Russian forces and these people, some of them men were demanding that when they were cowering under the blanket of British protection.
they should seek refuge to the nearest country, but its are government trying to be the saviours of the world. that's why England is a mess. i'm not using the union term anymore, you don't see the illegals going to scotland or wales. they be lost in translation
@@norwoodboy6048 You know that you can be a refugee without a war, right?
Listening to these interviews makes me feel sick with sadness 😞
The lack of compassion humans have for their fellow humans...
U mean immigrants coming over here from them horrible war torn countries France and Albania?, get ur head out the sand and see what is going on they are coming here for benefits that is it
That, and also how incredibly thick they are. They're doubly disadvantaged by not realising how thick they are.
Don't think of them as human, more of an infestation.
@@leanatale7251 I'd rather have a million of them than 1 of you.
@@leanatale7251 parasites
History teaches us that there have always been idiots making life hard for everyone else.
And most of them climb into a rubber boat...🤣😂🤣😂
@@leethrelfalllt yep you beat me to it 🤣
@@leethrelfalllt and folks here we have idiot number two, only to be followed by idiot one Sid below.
@@davidmccready3312 quick aren't you...yeah as quick as a sinking dinghy full of Dumbo's...😂🤣😭
if only they stayed home eh
It's incredibly funny that the caller goes out of his way to bring up things that the host never actually brought up, things that make the caller look utterly terrible, and then blames the host for it.
O'Brien is a bully, he refuses to let the caller actually bring his points across, he spends the whole discussion playing misdirection and attacking the callers ethics rather than allowing the caller to make his point and respond to those points directly, he is a bully who calls himself a victim in his books and yet has no issue bullying others.
@@genome616 Quick question. When the caller said "when bacteria are infecting a wound you get rid of them [...]" and O'Brien asked "Are you comparing refugees to bacteria?" was that bullying? And what did you think of the caller's reply "no you are"? What is bullying in your mind?
@@sebastianlavallee706 Why do you and the rest of the flock just do not listen to what Mr O'Brien actually says ? The only person who compared Bacteria to asylum seekers was the bullying Mr O'Brien, as much you people love him, but he is just like, Jeremy Kyle, a bully with the short person chip on his shoulder 😒
@genome616 what is it with people nowadays, this victim mentality is just ridiculous. How on Earth is he a bully? Christ people have become so unbearably weak.
@@davidedwards1476 I quoted the caller directly. You tell me yes or no: did he make a bacteria analogy to describe actions taken against refugees?
Listening to this caller just proves the lack of care we show to the world. It’s all about Britain. But people like this caller forget how Britain ruled other countries with an iron fist. They plundered and pillaged freely. But sadly this caller’s history will overlook that fact.
Yeah because most Brits have got some colonial loot in their attics. Give your head a wobble. The Brits themselves were viciously exploited over the corresponding period.
@@gwangjuboy1 as well they should be.
@ Sharon Ramsey
I make you right on your statement
@@gwangjuboy1
This not about who did first it’s the Act you need to focus on @ Sharon Ramsey was absolutely right in her statement you sound like the caller trying to deflect, Humanity is where we all need to be
@@sharonramsey715
Leave the country than
Credit to James and the producers from taking daily calls from these simpletons
Yes, how very brave of them! 🙄 I have no idea why anyone phones in. O'Brien is a large toddler who cannot wait to humiliate and belittle people. Tragic.
@@Victoria-wz9ub No, just make sure when you call in you have a real point and evidence to support it. Simple.
@@Victoria-wz9ub Too right, he preys on emotive callers who he can embarass and when he gets a calm minded man like David, just looks the utter simping bell end that he is.
@@Victoria-wz9ub Another Right wing bot, probably based at 55 Tufton Street ..🤫🤫🤫
@@Victoria-wz9ub Are you David’s mum?
A legitimate refugee doesn't discard their ID and pay 3000-6000 euros to traffickers James.
We watch our kids like hawks when crossing the road, so could you imagine the desperation these poor people must be going through to put their kids and themselves in such danger?
......amazing how all these desperate refugees have £5000 in their back pocket....😊
They don't. Entire families will put towards sending one or two. That could be their entire life savings, all to give someone they love a chance at a better life. If you want to end the trafficking, you make it safe and legal to apply for asylum. The lack of this is why these people are making so much money from desperate people.
why is that amazing? If my house got bombed right now I'd lose all my possessions but I'd still have my bank account. I'd have to use the savings I have to get my family to safety.
.....which means crossing the whole of Europe and then risking your life and your family to illegally enter a country....makes sense....
@chatham43 they're not illegally entering. Our asylum process is literally 'get here and say you want asylum, then we'll look into your claim to see if it has merit'
We could make it so that they don't have to come here and can apply from embassies over seas, but our government chose to make it this way and force them to risk the crossing. And then pretend it's a surprise when they do exactly what we told them they have to do.
So you think Britain has the infrastructure to keep up with 600k net immigration and 50k illegals . You think that's sustainable ? What number is to much ?.
that caller was utterly disgusting he has zero compassion to human beings we need to get rid of these tory filth as soon as possible some of this talk is exactly how it started off with the jews in 1939
O Brian did NOT answer the question !!
They see hornets and bacteria, I see brothers and sisters
More fool you.
@@PeteBogg If being kind makes me a fool so be it
@@gmouse1250 LOL. You are so thick you think Albania is a war zone.
And these brothers and sisters see a country that will provide them with a easy life , free benefits , health care , housing , child allowances etc etc . Not bacteria but freeloading parasites .
@@PeteBogg you’re hopeless
Am I the only one who thinks James O'Brien just talks over and patronises people when he hears an opinion he doesn't like? He doesn't actually try and engage with the caller and instead mocks them and is quite dismissive. I've noticed he is doing this more and more and it's just not enjoyable to listen to or watch.
while wearing his grannies jumper and scarf. mans cringe af
He's like James Cordon crossed with a squirrel who stored too many nuts in it's cheeks
Well said
I turn him off now !!
But you didnt answer his question. Why risk their lives crossing the channel when they are safe in France. Or are you suggesting they are unsafe in France?
This. I'm trying to figure that out too. Is France a dangerous or bad place to live compared to wherever theyre going?
Yes O’Brien is great at dodging the questions or spinning what a caller with any opposing view has to say. Why isn’t he asking why it’s ok for France to say they don’t want them but it’s not ok for us to say no thanks we don’t either. France is definitely a safe country and shouldn’t be passing its lack of boarder control on to us.
What you are actually asking is "why do a small proportion of asylum seekers come to the UK rather than all of them going elsewhere?"
Because they would prefer to be in the UK and they are legally allowed to request asylum here. I suspect they are told the crossing is a lot safer than it is.
Yu seem to be suggesting that other countries should take all the asylum seekers and we should take none, which isn't a fair or reasonable stance at all. France could ask the same - why are they coming here instead of going somewhere else? Well they have to go somewhere and spreading them out is sensible. We take a lot less than France and Germany. I don't see how us doing our bit is such an outrage.
@@drummingtildeath @drummingtildeath We are aware of O'Brien's answer. It's not an answer the question we are asking here in the comments, which is "Why is the UK preferable to France?" We understand people think that it's preferable to swim across the channel rather than stay in France. We're wondering WHY people think that. Is France a horrible country to live in? Is the UK amazing? What's the actual rationale that drives these people across the dangerous channel? That's what we want to know. Do you have an answer to that question?
@@drummingtildeath i don't disagree that we should do our bit. How do you suggest we do our bit? How do you apportion the asylum seekers fairly. GDP, population, square miles, welfare capability?
My point was O'Brian dud not answer his question and belittled the other persons point of view instead of dismantling it. I rarely watch any of his 'debates' as i find him odious.
To be clear, i do not reject the notion we should take more.
Have you any idea how homeless men are treated in this country.
And please don't go with the narrative the powers that be encourage, that all homeless people are either drug addicts, alcoholics, want to live on the streets.
That's a get out card to make people think they are worthless so why help.
I truly wish people would care as much, help as much, discuss as much the plight of the homeless men in this country.
These people who always spout about "taking care of our own" always vote conservative.
Because that's who they mean when they say take care of our own....Tories.
It’s so sad, to see the way this country is becoming, its like Compasion to those in bad situations has become a stigmatism to get rid of, it’s worrying. And so upsetting for those people who truly need help.
This all started with Brexit . We are becoming more like the Americans.
@@darrenfearon4288 No its happened because people in the UK are not idiots . We are compassionate and are welcoming to those who are genuine but there are many here that are here illegally. We need to be wise and not gullible.
We don't know who these illegal immigrants are and the motives. Are they in danger ? Or criminals ?
I've seen a lot of changes over the past ten years and I don't think our country can cope with the influx of people. Our nhs, housing, economy our greenbelt.
It's not about not having empathy or compassion it's about being aware and being wise. Not letting the wolf in sheep's clothing through the front door.
I disagree Darren , this started a longtime before brexit
“Becoming” as if it hasn’t been this way for several hundred years. Ever read a history book?
@@darrenfearon4288 you clearly don’t know how america got it’s start.
Wasn’t Thanet the seat that Farage thought he could become an MP in?
Yes, he stood (and lost) in South Thanet twice. He couldn't even win in the UKIP heartlands 😄😄
Excuse my ignorance but Thanet is Kent, is it not? The leafy white middle class regions of this country, the home counties, Essex, Kent, etc. who do not share any burden of the urban centres and then chose to make everyone's life harder by voting Brexit. Brexit was ultimately carried through with this home county vote. It is convenient to blame it on 'thick northerners' but the numbers just don't bear that up. Thanet and similarly miserable places like that make this country a horror to live in. I rather live in inner city Manchester, Birmingham and Sunderland than in one of these soulless, miserable, stuck up retiree towns.
@@leod-sigefast Margate and much of Thanet (except Broadstairs tbh) is poor semi derelict seaside town. Lots of immigration. It's front and centre of immigration wars hence why farage pitched up twice for xeno wars /general election
@@leod-sigefast as a resident of Thanet I can assure you it’s not a white middle class area. You’ll have to travel west about 50 miles or so for that. Thanet (Broadstairs, Margate and Ramsgate) has been a largely deprived area since the 1960s. There are some residents who are extremely well off, but there is also plenty of deprivation and poverty in the area. A lot of London authorities have sent people in need of social housing here as the accommodation costs are less then in London, there are also enclaves of foreign nationals in B&B and temporary accommodation in areas like Cliftonville. Thanet is known as a low skilled, low income area and there is a high percentage of pensioners in the area too. All perfect ingredients for the likes of Farage and the tories to foment hatred and intolerance. I certainly don’t share these peoples’ intolerance, but can see how it has happened. It sickens me that the government are more than happy to stoke up this kind of hatred in areas like Thanet. It’s mendacious and more fool the idiots like Dave from Thanet who fall for it.
Thanet isn’t that special, it’s a little piece of the U.K. pointing to Europe.
Its preferelable to risk children's life than stay in France?
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines so yes? It is preferable to risk childs life than stay in France?
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines I'm specifically only interested in the phenomenon of a parent getting in a boat with child and risk the childs life to cross the channel from France to England's. Like why do they do that?
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines so you're saying that they risk children's lives to cross the channel in a dingy (after fleeing country to save childs life) to spread the migrant population out, because they know the language, have family here or to avoid destitution in France? Is that what you are saying? Km genuinely trying to understand. Why are you being so aggressive? I am a member of amnesty international I'm not again asylum seekers at all.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines I see. I do apologie you did lay that out in you first message. I just find those reasons so completely unjustifiable in risking a childs life that I thought you were avoiding the specific question and answering more generally about refugees.
I was wondering if maybe they had been forced into the boat by smugglers or something
Okay this might blow your mind....
THEY DON'T REALISE HOW DANGEROUS THE CHANNEL CROSSING IS. NO ONE TELLS THEM.
THE PEOPLE SMUGGLERS ARE HARDLY GOING TO TELL THEIR CLIENTS THAT THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHANCE OF DYING.
THE ASYLUM SEEKERS HAVE ALREADY TRAVELLED HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS OF MILES AND A VERY SHORT BOAT JOURNEY PROBABLY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL.
When you ask questions like "why do they put their kids' lives at risk?" you are assuming that they *know* they're putting them at risk. A lot of them have just fled wars when their houses and possessions are destroyed. They may not speak the language of the country they're in. They're panicked and desperate. They have to make a decision of what's best for their family and they don't have our ability to watch the TV or go on the internet to find out all the facts. This means that some asylum seekers end up making the wrong decision and it may cost them their lives.
For someone that says they support Amnesty International I would have thought you'd be better at putting yourself in the shoes of someone fleeing war.
It's much nicer to stay in a hotel in Britain than live in a tent in France.
"These people"? Disgusting description. Him and his type who get their opinions from the mail, the sun etc are the real problem.
You don't think that people like Lawangeen Abdulrahimzai are a real problem?
For them it’s preferable to risk the lives of their children then to stay in France????
People like this are one of the reasons this country is falling apart.
"These people" often precedes a rant.
Othering. Not people but separate from people
James you just cant have the sort of immigration that this country is seeing now. We carry on with this, and this country Great Britain will fall apart. It is not the duty of the British people, to feed the World, and when britain fails, and it will under this strain of immigration, what is the name of country that will take and feed millions of British people, i missed that bit.
You do know that to build a growing economy you need immigration, right???
You do know that Britain is number #60 in the world of countries that take in refugees, right??
You do know that Britain is the 6th richest economy in the world (we were 5th, but 16m village idiots voted to Leave the EU), right??
You do know that this government has squandered & given away & cost this country 100’s of BILLIONS of pounds since they came into power, right??
I agree totally. Our country has been a soft touch due to feelings of guilt over our countries past. I accept all legal immigrants in this country but we have to be so careful who we let in. There are theives robbers mafia etc who I'm sure would want to get in, and do
France has over 100 percent land mass more than the the uk and Germany about 50 per cent.
Our resources are depleting our nhs is struggling then there is housing and our land is being eaten up and being built upon.
We are a very compassionate people in the uk. But as a nation we need to be wise . The thief comes in the night to steal and destroy and I am not speaking of those who genuinely need help.
We need a way to vet people before they reach our shores
James O`Brian is a fine example of the type of person that will ultimately result in our complete disintegration. And yes "Shut Up"
Is Campbell a Scottish surname?
....pity nobody told him to shut up years ago....far too late now sadly.....
"Charity begins at home." - Fella who does nothing charitable.
I think he meant charity as in making a sandwich for himself one day a month instead of his wife.
Yep, Dave from Thanet would pass someone on the road if they were begging for help and tell them to go and get a ‘f****g job’
...you know him well....?
@@chatham43 you obviously do. Or have the same opinions.
As soon as I heard this guy was from Thanet, I knew where this was going.
Snap!
Does living where you are make you so much better then ?
Comments section immediately sinks to the same level as the caller and starts pointing out where people come from and blaming the people that come from somewhere poorer than themselves for not seeing life as they do. I think it should be enough to state the caller is wrong, rather than blame where he is from.
@@wonderingworld119 I said what I said.
@@inphanta and couldn't or won't answer my question??
Mention the word invasion in about one third of the world and a lot of people will thing of the British.
Countries were invading each other long befor Britian was formed. please expand your history knowledge.
@@spiderjeranimo4992 If that is an excuse, now everyone has an excuse for invading Britain.
The Nazi's compared Jews to cockroaches....this is far right playbook.
based
@@GloryOfBarbelo on history.
That's an insult to bacteria.
Charity begins by being taught at home.
No one risks the lives of their families like this unless it is their last resort.
....escaping from France...perfectly understandable because you don't like the language or you don't fancy the food....you are precious....😊😀
How many families have you seen on them boats ? Its all men
The boats are full of young men, not families. They abandoned their families. It's nothing like a last resort - they're choosy.
Been waiting for this after hearing it live today. Classic clip for the archives
Geez.... I like James but this time his take is ridiculous...
Its a waste of time. The media will not agree. They need to keep their jobs.
Ask these callers if they know their own ancestry? Could be interesting indeed.
Not that old chestnut again🥴
Let's leave ancestry where it belongs shall we. In the past.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines thick, is accepting the present situation of uncontrolled immigration. To use ancestry as a reason why this immigration should not be checked, actually, that is being thick.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines really, so, where do go to for the "facts"?
Ask anyone in the whole world their ancestry. Could get really interesting.
Alot of crazy echo chamber comments. Our standard of living looks very appealing to other people in other country's. But the more people who come here the less likely it is we can maintain that high standard of living. More and more will wish to come in the future not less. Its a problem that will get worse.
This is a policy designed to damage the UK. The welfare state is going to collapse. That is what this is designed to do.
oh James your so smug
Charity begins at home he says, and the least likely to actually give to charity or give a quid to homeless person. This station really exposes the average mindsets of Brits and it is shameful. The invasion rhetoric is so old, it goes back to when we were invading distant lands and fighting for said land with other European countries, not regarding the natives of said lands.
These kind of people "We need to look after our own" also these kind of people "im voting tories so my tax money doenst go to looking after any of our own "
This is what appears continually on GBNews
well people have a right to hear both sides of the argument. or are you a communist
....what does?.....try watching.....but that might prove you wrong and we can't have that can we....?
The never ask why everything has got worse since Brexit? We left the club and the club are not our border force.
@@chatham43 I have watched and amn appalled at just how dreadful the hard right really is.
@@johnrussell3961 Totally has nothing to do with the hundreds of millions printed during covid to pay people staying at home, or the Ukrainian war...or the thousands of "refugees" living off the taxpayers? We left a club that was not serving our countries best interests, what is the issue with that? You had 2 chances to win a vote and stay in the "club" and you lost.
In my daughter's first year, they had a field trip which sensitized them to the plight of refugees and poor people. They had very little to eat for a day. She came home telling me the refugees had it worst, because they did not have a place to stay, no food, and did not know where they were going to end up.
We have many afghans refugees in Texas. The school is full of them. Kudos to the Tex-Mex for their hospitality. You can see the elementary students loaded with gifts during Thanksgiving, Halloween and Christmas. They are young and adjust well.
Middle School and High School students have more behavioral problems and cultural issues. Coming from a war torn country, they do not understand the concept of following rules, or law and order. The only law they follow is their fathers, women they don't take seriously because the position of women in Afghanistan is low. In way we sympathize with them. They come from a place where women have low status with no rights to a country which is one of the best place for women in the world. They don't confront you like an American kids with "freedom of speech" and "rights". They just smile, say yes and do exactly what they want to do. They lie about their names when they are in trouble and try to slip away during detention.
Some areas in Afghanistan, like in some villages, have not been infiltrated by the Taliban. The children have a more stable life and better upbringing. Kabul is problematic, I understand many boys (girls stay at home as specified by their religion) stay out in the streets late at night, drink and fight. We don't know what they have seen or experience, like witnessing killing or seeing dead bodies in the streets. These middle school and high school students have behavioral issues. Since many live in the same apartment complex, they revert to their culture, which is disorderly. The boys are so...loud.
This poster is displayed on the wall in a middle school: If some students are unresponsive, maybe you can't teach them yet, but you can love them and if you love them today, maybe you can teach them tomorrow. Middle school children are in transition from a child to a teenager. They could be rebellious and misbehave more than elementary students!
Oh, Florence. USA is not one of the best places for women to live. USA is not one of the best places for anyone to live. Better than Afganistan at the moment, I'll give you that.
No country is perfect. But if the US is not an attractive country, there wouldn’t be so many people seeking to immigrate here.
What do you think of the Afghan 'refugee' Lawangeen Abdulrahimzai?
Florence well done to You, Your family and Your community.
@@davidz3879 A criminal that was fortunately caught. What do You think about Peter Scully and the likes of him that still roams around Asia freely?
I like James´s line of questioning here, inviting the caller to do some introspection and not just staying on the surface of what he's saying.
This country frightens me
You obviously haven’t lived in other countries then
no one is making you stay here
then leave
Out of curiosity, how many of these invaders has o’bellend invited to live in his home?
I v not heard one single reason that having them here would make me want them.
People forget no one is immuned from becoming a refugee. May we continue to live in peace.
PSA: "Charity begins at home" is supposed to encourage you to treat those close to you as well as you would others, ie not to act nice in public but nasty in private.
It is not, and has never been, an excuse to stop helping others or to put those closest to you before others.
Charity begins at home.
True.
But it doesn't end there.
“Most people spend most of their lives in the back of their heads” is an all-time line.
I have to say that I'm definitely left of centre. But this caller raised some very important questions, to which James had absolutely no answer. However if I had been in Jame's shoes I'd liked to have asked the caller why all these illegal immigrants want to come to the UK? Answer...because we invaded the middle east in two illegal wars...looking for WMD's that never existed, and to overturn the Taliban regime...Both of which failed in the most catastrophic way, and in the process gave rise to the Arab spring, de-stabilising the entire region. Which has led to the displacement of millions of refugees...who incidentally were in the majority of cases (case in point...Syria) living happily in a safe country until we kicked the hornet's nest. We (The West) started this.
Spot on👍the effect of years of interference in regions this country has no rights to be in.
That still doesn't answer the question though as to why they're leaving safe countries like France to come illegally to the UK. I mean are you literally saying they're coming to the UK because the UK directly invaded their region? That seems suspicious
This radio guy always sticks up for the illegal coming here 🤬🤬
Why do modern day "refugees" look so different to refugees of the past?
Homeless on the streets everywhere
Katie Hopkins called immigrants cockroaches!
Hatie Kockpins strikes again
And?
A career built on hate has aged her terribly. And bankrupted her. Karma I guess.
@@supersocashow3176 O’Brien based his whole career on hate.
Hopkins has been smeared for years by people on the left. She did an interview with the bbc the other day. They threw the same buzz words at her and she calmly put them in their place
everyone i speak to always talks about helping homeless veterans - but then if anyone really genuinely wanted to help them they wouldnt be homeless
How is France not safe?
David is represents the widespread issue with stupidity this country.
Ahr poor David . He's scared of foreigners taking his little toys away .
Sounds like you've already thrown yours out
@@sidonthebank if that's how you see it then you're also scared.
@@johnchrysostomou9417 aw bless
How many of them have you got staying in your house? My guess is zero …
@AlexLee360 just another virtue signaller they're all the same
Right-wing virtue signallers: "We should help our own".
Also right-wing virtue signallers: "Nah, they need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps!"
Lunatics.
Not as moronic or self-cannibalising as people who think net migration figures of 500,000 are sustainable. Landlord by any chance?
I'm a disabled military veteran & listen to James a lot, I can categorically state the idiot caller who phoned in does NOT represent me.
He's the atypical brexit voting tory bluekipper, if you disagree with him he just shouts louder !
Keep up the Great work James, we appreciate you.
Ironically it was corbyn that was allways wanting Brexit lol 😆 not only the Tories
Tony Benn , how right wing was he
It’s like James was talking to my Dad.
Who is older and wiser than you.
@@sharonn381 He’s never been a wise man as such, but as he’s gotten older he’s certainly become more fearful, bigoted and intolerant. He’s more open to being sold stories about who is to blame for the world seemingly not being as it was when he was young and full of vitality. He can be moved by his petty prejudices by those who hold power.
...you've got a lot to live up to....
It’s fear, they are afraid about somebody taking a way their meager belongings. Sharing requires the conviction that you will be ok.
They are not refugees they are illegal immigrants. End of.
Amusing though it is to witness James running rings around callers who lack his education and sharpness, it's ultimately pointless. No opinions were changed; neither the callers' nor any listeners who agree with the caller. The only impression they'll take away from this is that the "other side" will simply fixate on the language, dismiss the concerns, and brand them a fool and/or bigot.
This isn't how to engage with them. All it does is entrench their views. He arrived feeling "invaded" and he now feels both invaded and betrayed by "his own people." That's not a win. All you've done is created a harder, more entrenched, more disillusioned version of the caller - and played into the hands of others in the audience who think as he does, confirming their opinion that no-one will engage with their concerns, and will instead just pick apart the semantics, vilify them for not using better words, attach a nasty label to them, and tell them to go away.
If people are passionate about a concern and feel that no-one will listen to them or engage with them honestly, then they mutate into a more dangerous - possibly even militant - version. Not the kind of "levelling-up" that anyone wants to see :(
JOB wants this though as its his whole career, otherwise he would change peoples minds with a different approach as you point out.
In other words only phone James if you agree with him.
Or if you can actually defend your point of view with intelligent and accurate facts.
@@oobenoob O’Brien deals with opinions not facts. You’re obviously new to this guy.
@nick1065 Your obsession with James is really sad.
@@wiltarthebarbarian1988 Not as sad as those who are taken in by him.
Another that doesn't understand that the safe country argument ceased when we left the EU and the Dublin accord doesn't apply. Under the UN a refugee can seek asylum in any country they choose.
For those who say 'charity begins at home', they need to learn the full quote! Or maybe the rest of us need to complete it whenever they say it......
Charity BEGINS at home, But it doesn't END there.
What most mean by charity begins at home, is that they should be sorted out first and then others later or not at all.
I broadly agree with James but I don't think he answered this callers question at all
A problem of brain development. Some have developed compassion. Some haven’t. It’ll never end
They're not refugees James
So many gross people like this caller in the UK, as horrible as it is to hear their “views” it’s important we do, even more important is heroes like James OBrien calling them out for their xenophobia and unchristian hatred
...like they showed to the Ukrainians by taking them in.....did James.....?
@@chatham43 of course he didn't, he likes to bash but he's like all typical bleeding hearts - all show and no go.
I would suggest that a large majority ov these hateful people identify as Christian...certainly in amerikkka its the case...
@The Phoenix Saga Lineker took someone, and guess what? The right still said he was a hypocrite. You don't actually care whether JOB takes anyone in, you just want to hate on him because he holds a mirror up to you and you don't like what you see.
This is why it's SO important the everybody votes, because without a doubt Dave will be down the poll booth at every opportunity to make sure the people in charge keep these views reinforced…
All people seeking sanctuary under UN law are legally allowed to claim asylum in any country, and not in the first country they find themselves. As for the caller, blame the problems in this country at Conservative Governments and its ideologies as well sowing division between people. To date, 78% of asylum applications are approved by the Home Office. The caller should hope he never ever finds himself in the same position as those he denigrates.
O'brien knows full well, his livelihood is safe, no Albanian or Afghani is going to take his job for a 1/4 of the money he gets.