The Science Of: Spamton's Dive Into Madness (Deltarune)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @Benzinilinguine
    @Benzinilinguine 2 года назад +116

    Kromer isn't dark dollars. It's just what spamton calls "money".

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +24

      Thank you for the clarification!

    • @odditycat2716
      @odditycat2716 2 года назад +28

      @@tricktheorists Also, Kris canonically uses they/them pronouns.

    • @Benzinilinguine
      @Benzinilinguine 2 года назад +10

      @@tricktheorists keep up the good work though. Like you said, half the fun of waiting is throwing hypotheses at the wall and seeing what sticks ;)

    • @flyingstonemon3564
      @flyingstonemon3564 2 года назад +4

      @@tricktheorists Kromer is slang for money used in the great depression irrc

    • @based980
      @based980 2 года назад +3

      @@odditycat2716 source?

  • @nocturnemusique
    @nocturnemusique 2 года назад +51

    I think that “Mike” was in fact just Spamton’s microphone guy, as he says “ARE YOU GETTING ALL THIS, [[MIKE]]?”. And whoever is driving the “secret boss” characters insane could just be the final “secret boss” who we’ll meet in Ch. 7

  • @michelleswondrousvideos2784
    @michelleswondrousvideos2784 2 года назад +115

    I don’t think his colour changed. I think it was always white, as I saw in the torn poster behind Queen, he just dyed his hair and tried to look more like Swatch either for popularity or to get the machine in the basement, or both.

    • @michelleswondrousvideos2784
      @michelleswondrousvideos2784 2 года назад +15

      And he was changed to look more like a puppet after he got the mysterious call.

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +19

      Thank you for the poster evidence Crabbygirk!

    • @michelleswondrousvideos2784
      @michelleswondrousvideos2784 2 года назад +1

      @@tricktheorists You’re welcome. 😊

    • @Blocky_Frog
      @Blocky_Frog 2 года назад +4

      He also used to be the height of the Addisons but shrunk in the acid river

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад

      @@Blocky_Frog omfg that's silly-

  • @deadchannellmaoooooo
    @deadchannellmaoooooo 2 года назад +35

    Spamton is my favourite character, I feel as if I relate to him and he comforts me. I have a bit of a similar personality and character arc as him. And somehow, despite everything, I feel safe around him. Whether it be in the form of drawings, fan fiction, in the game or animation. Anything similar to him comforts me.

    • @nikkifish
      @nikkifish 2 года назад +4

      Omfg Sameee!!!!

    • @teraspeXt
      @teraspeXt 2 года назад +1

      So you are also a crazed and desperate ex-famous salesman who is now living in a "GODDAMN GARBAGE CAN"? /j

  • @janiradariasmorales7918
    @janiradariasmorales7918 2 года назад +27

    I have to say, the audacity of the Addisons to just go to Spamton's place the moment he is gone.
    Supposedly they were friends before, but the moment Spamton got successful they diched him for petty jealousy.
    And when everything went down for him everyone just throw him out as he was garbage, the Addisons didn't even bothered to check on him until that point.

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад +1

      I feel like it's more realistic for them to be mad hell he goes from a 0 to a bigshot in like a month because he just got the right call, I'm sure if i was an advertiser I'd be pretty jealous too, especially seeing as he got a room in the queen's mansion
      In real life, often when people go to see old friends like that, its too late

    • @janiradariasmorales7918
      @janiradariasmorales7918 2 года назад +2

      @@L0rdOfThePies Feeling mad I understand, but leaving him behind that's another can of worms, it feels petty to me.
      At the same time I understand feeling angry that you were working hard on your job only for one of the same job getting famous and big so quick with just a call.
      But yeah is pretty realistic to how some people act and behave in this situation.

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад +2

      @@janiradariasmorales7918 its petty, but it happens,

    • @janiradariasmorales7918
      @janiradariasmorales7918 2 года назад +1

      @@L0rdOfThePies Yeah, that's true.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 2 года назад +3

      it's implied Spamton also went around bragging about his success to the other addisons' faces. Eventually making them jealous and leaving him

  • @Disc-CubeClown
    @Disc-CubeClown 2 года назад +42

    Personally I think the mysterious caller could be both Mike and Gaster!
    -The Fact Spamton has a hatred of Mike and no only saying he's a man criminal on TV, but also in Undertale at any chance we could get a call from someone who's looking for someone that starts with G.... 'Spamton "G". Spamton... ( Also the ending is foreshadowing our predictions! )
    - Mike may have called Spamton knowing he was Desperate so he gave him advice until decided to drive a innocently 'Desperate' man into insanity. and if Spamton were to keep trying to call 'Mike' he may have accidentally called a wrong number and 'THAT' might have been Gaster!
    - Its most likely Jevil met Gaster and that Gaster will play a 'BIGGER' role within Deltarune, maybe he's the knight? Maybe he's trapped in the basement? We can't say for sure... ( Not to mention that Jevil does say in Chapter 1, 'Soon the Queen Returns and hell's roars Bubbles the it's depths!" Saying he knew that Queen would appertains in Chapter 2 and also about the titans, which explains why he says 'CHAOS, CHAOS' all the time!
    - That explains that Maybe each Chapter the Secret bosses reveal a bit of information about the next chapter's boss or maybe even the other secret bosses! It's pretty clear that Spamton knows Jevil, but Jevil may also know who Spamton is not only due to him knowing the queen will return and knowing she's in another dark world! But since he knows his existence is a game, he could probably know How the story may end.
    ( IDK I thought I come up with these 'RANDOM' ideas!

    • @socksinsoda9517
      @socksinsoda9517 2 года назад +11

      I keep hearing about the phone call in Undertale being towards "G. Spamton," but I don't think it really makes sense. People usually don't call others by their middle name first. I think that it could actually be a not yet corrupted Spamton trying to reach out to "G"aster, but somehow calling across timelines to Frisk's phone instead. Does that make sense, or am I just crazy?

    • @Disc-CubeClown
      @Disc-CubeClown 2 года назад +3

      That actually makes sense, thank you for the feed back

    • @socksinsoda9517
      @socksinsoda9517 2 года назад +4

      @@Disc-CubeClown No problem! i like your other theories, too

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +8

      Your random ideas are awesome Disc-Cube Clown! Especially you showing that each secret boss reveals information about the next boss for the next chapter is awesome, and is making me think!

  • @C0RVETTE
    @C0RVETTE 2 года назад +62

    Here before this gets alot of views

  • @jackatk
    @jackatk 2 года назад +4

    2:48
    We do! In his Fangamer merch, theres a picture of his former self driving a cungadero.

  • @Dmgladiator2642
    @Dmgladiator2642 2 года назад +13

    Honestly I think he could have met Mike in one of 2 places in his story at option 1 he tried to get Mike to help him get popular before he got the call 2 Mike could have screwed him over somehow just before the caller disappeared (I prefer the second option cuz it supports the "Mike is a [gameshow host] theory"

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 2 года назад +18

    Spamton had his own city under the mansion. That’s how powerful he was when he peaked: Second only from Queen in terms of influence in Cyber City. Talk about a fall from grace, and my theory is that Spamton was always white, and he dyed his hair, and he is short because he shrunk from the acid.

  • @Benzinilinguine
    @Benzinilinguine 2 года назад +11

    I really don't buy the Mike Ditka thing.
    It *might* have inspired spamton partially. Is it going to mean the TV host mike is always drinking soda? Probably not. The commercial is just too old, random, and obscure to have anything to do with Deltarune beyond "Mike, big shot, 1997". It's probably just a coincidence. Probably.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 года назад +3

    Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Always good to hear from you sagacious03!

  • @infinitecrafterYT
    @infinitecrafterYT 2 года назад +2

    You need more subscribers!
    Your editing is awesome!

  • @tricktheorists
    @tricktheorists  2 года назад +4

    Happy New Year! Do you think it was Gaster who called Spamton or someone else? Here's my other vid where I talk about Gaster in Deltarune!
    ruclips.net/video/JXG2fUvaBtg/видео.html

    • @mask_vids9834
      @mask_vids9834 2 года назад

      probably the priest, Dess, someone we haven't met, or even carol holiday.

    • @mask_vids9834
      @mask_vids9834 2 года назад

      if you mean the caller specifically this may come as a surprise but it may even be a clown.

  • @theCha.
    @theCha. 2 года назад +3

    The road to 5k! Lets go

  • @GwainSagaFanChannel
    @GwainSagaFanChannel 2 года назад +4

    8:15 the sound here was way to loud its quite deafening at max volume

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I don't understand what was up with that either

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +1

      Sorry about that! I will fix that going forward!

  • @B4K4xNi
    @B4K4xNi 2 года назад +1

    "scientists like elon musk" lol

  • @maxthompson7107
    @maxthompson7107 2 года назад +1

    Spamton's story basically revolves around the idea of living life to your fullest and avoid spammers and scammers all you can. Just do what you love, even if it doesn't make you powerful.
    Honestly, I think Spamton is one of the most relatable characters in Deltarune chapter 2, and this video explains why.

  • @Deskiezie
    @Deskiezie 2 года назад +2

    Spamton was a crazy fight, what a way to end 2021, happy new year y’all ✌🏽

  • @Letsfingoooooo
    @Letsfingoooooo 2 года назад +2

    About his appearance, there is a torn poster in the allyway you meet him that slightly shows what he looked like when he was popular. He was white with black hair and looked more like the other addisons. I believe he might have dyed his hair to look more monochrome like Swatch for popularity's sake, and later got the glasses to try imitate him.
    Also, I am curious about the theory/implication that Spamton was thrown into the acid in the basement making him so small. I believe it could be true, though I rarely see it mentioned in these kinds of videos. Is it inobvious for most or do people just not buy it? I can understand either, since the biggest clues to the idea are Spamton's "I USED TO BE NOTHING BUT THE E_MAIL GUY, NOW I'M THE [[It Burns! Ow! Stop! Help Me! It Burns!]] GUY!" line and Queen's comment that if Berdly took a swim in the river he would shrink. But in contrast, i see plenty of fanart and comments about it.

  • @pixelateddoctor
    @pixelateddoctor 2 года назад +1

    If ads are characters in the darkworld.....
    imagine what a mobile game ad would look like

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад

      Oh my gosh. That thing would be a monstrosity lol.

  • @Komega01
    @Komega01 2 года назад

    Spamton was trying to become a titan when you think about it he WAS a big shot but he wants to stand up high with his head in the clouds and see into heaven

  • @ItsB1998
    @ItsB1998 2 года назад +1

    I think the way Spamton looks now sans the pink and yellow glasses is how he looked as a regular Addison tbh. The poster of him in the town shows this.

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Enigma! And Happy New Year!

    • @ItsB1998
      @ItsB1998 2 года назад

      @@tricktheorists Thanks! Same to you.

  • @darkalpha50
    @darkalpha50 10 месяцев назад

    8:08 spamton hacks the video and blasts your ears

  • @tavioka_pudding
    @tavioka_pudding 2 года назад +2

    8:09 THE MUSIC GOT LOUD O W
    It eventually evens out but heads up headphone users for the sudden shift

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад

      Sorry about that! I just checked to see what song it was I used and won't be doing that again.

  • @cameraman1862
    @cameraman1862 2 года назад +2

    I have a very good theory. Mike is the one that made Spamton become a big shot not Gaster because he says Mike is a criminal he used to help him then all of a sudden left him. That's also why he says to us to not trust Mike. ok but idk what to say about the garbage noise

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +1

      I like your theory! It seems like each chapter references things to come in the next quite a bit, so I could see your theory being the right one.

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 2 года назад

    Hm, interesting.
    Jevil, Spamton, i wonder what kind of character(s) we meet next, in the future chapters.

  • @Super_NoahGalaxy
    @Super_NoahGalaxy 2 года назад

    Mike is likely a seperate being from gaster. Mike is a tv star, possi l gameshow host, (based on a few lines) who would know about advertising. The tv in kris's house is likely mike, it was unplugged long ago, it being unplugged likely severed the connection, stopping contact between spamton and mike. As spamton was to be evicted, gaster told him the truth of his world

  • @InternetFanatic
    @InternetFanatic 2 года назад +1

    Spamton is very lonely
    Like Jevil
    Why is Spamton a puppet (I know it’s a Metaphor) but why is he an actual Puppet in a World that has to do with the internet and that the Addisons don’t seem like Puppets maybe he was from the TV world and through some logic we don’t know and Gaster moved to Cyber World
    It probably isn’t the Case but it’s interesting

  • @cintax3rror
    @cintax3rror 2 года назад

    I think that his saving grace wasn’t actually Gaster I think it was Mike. Maybe he got extremely busy so he could no longer help spamton out anymore and Gaster took this as an opportunity to strike

  • @justsomeanimator
    @justsomeanimator 2 года назад +1

    Is the G in Spampton G. Spampton for gold? Meaning he is aware of Undertale?

  • @triassicraptor4375
    @triassicraptor4375 2 года назад +7

    Kris uses They/Them. This is brought up every time you make a theory on this game. It's not hard

    • @zenvariety9383
      @zenvariety9383 2 года назад +7

      Whenever most people see a character that uses they/them it’s an instinctual for most people to insert their own gender or the gender they perceive the character. Besides, a lot of people don’t really care about they/them pronouns since they usually refer to a group of people or someone that hasn’t been met in person yet.

    • @triassicraptor4375
      @triassicraptor4375 2 года назад +6

      @@zenvariety9383 that's not an excuse. There's not a whole bunch of representation for nonbinary people so it's really annoying when there is some and people refuse to acknowledge it. 🙄 I get needing to be corrected once or twice but after you've been corrected deciding that you're not going to do it is a problem. It would be one thing if it wasn't confirmed by the Creator but it is and when a character is purposefully ambiguous they tend to try not to use any pronouns for them rather than they/them. And even when they do this is in the case of that so I don't see what your point is

    • @triassicraptor4375
      @triassicraptor4375 2 года назад +2

      @@zenvariety9383 I didn't think this something that should change it's not like it's programmed into people genetically people can be taught but they have to be willing to learn. Think of it like Samus being one of the first representations of a strong female character in a action game something you didn't get a lot of back then it is revealed that Samus is a girl and people just keep calling her "he" anyway it nullifies that representation and would be very very annoying especially for women who want that representation it's the same kind of thing. Trick isn't even trying. It really isn't hard if you must pretend that we are multiple people or you don't know which gender we are. If you have to make up ambiguous in your head to use the right pronouns do so.

    • @marctaco2624
      @marctaco2624 2 года назад

      @@triassicraptor4375 the question is if Kris is truly nonbinary or plural for Kris's body and the player's soul. I suppose it is the same result regardless.

    • @triassicraptor4375
      @triassicraptor4375 2 года назад +2

      @@marctaco2624 no because their mother calls them "They" ( something I wish I had) she doesn't know about the soul

  • @Silly_Sulky_Seli
    @Silly_Sulky_Seli 2 года назад +1

    TW mention of dereality / simulation theory at the end (afther 10:30)

  • @dfadfadffffffff
    @dfadfadffffffff 2 года назад +1

    I already watched this one 😱

  • @GreenQueen69420
    @GreenQueen69420 2 года назад

    The three main questions about him are: who is the guy on the other side of the phone, who is Mike, and are they same person. Mike is referenced a lot by Spamton, both in negative and positive connotations (positive as in everything Spamton is doing is to prove to Mike that he can do something, or looking up to Mike), so if Mike isn't the fake name of Gaster then we may see Mike in the next chapter.

  • @Spongeduckyschannel
    @Spongeduckyschannel 2 года назад

    The G in spamton.G.spamton reminds me of the W.D in W.D gaster

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 2 года назад +1

    1997 is my birth year.

  • @CJAFTER5
    @CJAFTER5 2 года назад

    IS THAT THE BITE OF 97?!

  • @mr.monkey354
    @mr.monkey354 2 года назад

    personally i believe mike and gaster are one in the same. Spamton just became real glitchy after coming in contact from one who doesn't even exist. and i believe he knew gaster's name but the glitches correct gaster's name to mike instead.

  • @brodycoffey910
    @brodycoffey910 2 года назад

    Spamton in the thumbnail looks like canny mr. Incredible phase 2 or 3 idk

  • @TheSkyGuy77
    @TheSkyGuy77 2 года назад +2

    Give [[ Kromer ]]?
    Yes ❤ Do Not

  • @kimbanton4398
    @kimbanton4398 2 года назад

    2:40 I disagree. In my opinion he did not used to be with a different color. The poster that's located right to the trash in the alley you first meet him has his Addison face without the glasses on it which is also white & with black hair. So he always looked like this.

  • @wevvittyy9313
    @wevvittyy9313 2 года назад +2

    elon musk is not a scientist, his business may be tech so you'd hope he knows about the tech involved in is industries, but his take on living in a simulation is no more meaninglful than any rando. not to diss on it because sure it's definitely possible but quoting musk as a leading expert is disingenuous

  • @njokjtfgiijnjyfvgtrrdees
    @njokjtfgiijnjyfvgtrrdees 2 года назад

    "Deltarune is a game..."
    "......"

  • @deltaknight6709
    @deltaknight6709 2 года назад

    note: there’s not an actual evidence showing that mettaton ghost is the one that makes the neo body, the swatch only mention a “lightner” not a certain someone.

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад

      I mean who else could be dreaming about a neo body like that?

    • @deltaknight6709
      @deltaknight6709 2 года назад

      @@L0rdOfThePies deltarune and undertale is different, could be alphys, asriel or even catti.

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад

      @@deltaknight6709 they're different but still connected though? Toriel and asgore are still divorced, the characters still act pretty similar, i think its safe to assume that the ghost still wants to be a hot robot

    • @deltaknight6709
      @deltaknight6709 2 года назад

      @@L0rdOfThePies there isnt even an evidence that mettaton ghost in deltarune even uses the computer.

    • @deltaknight6709
      @deltaknight6709 2 года назад

      @@L0rdOfThePies i mean it could be, but theres not an actual evidence he makes it 🗿

  • @zigazav1
    @zigazav1 2 года назад

    Good effort on this video, but I have to bluntly say (forgive me) that Gaster is basically the typical Undertale/Deltarune theorists' cliche card they use whenever they talk about something cannot properly find an explanation for, due to a lack of evidence. The sprite in Undertale's coding people call Gaster, isn't even called Gaster within the internal sprite files of Undertale. No, his sprite file in the coding of the game is just named as "Mysteryman" seeming to point towards even Toby himself does not know who exactly that is. btw, we still have Undertale characters we have not seen again in some way, in Deltarune. Obviously, it's an AU, not directly connected to Undertale, but most characters return in some way in Deltarune, living different lives. I wonder if Toby will include more of those characters in Deltarune from Undertale, that we have not seen yet. We know Sans' brother Papyrus exists in the universe of Deltarune, we just have not seen him yet. I want to talk more about this, but I cannot find the correct words to come across, and this comment is very long already, so I'll end it here

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад

      I like the idea that gaster is a faceless entity of some kind, maybe the mystery is gaster in a way, but i mean that like.. maybe everyone is a part of it? Yeah its a copout answer but it could be .. very very interesting you could say?

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop 2 года назад +1

      You can only see the mystery man at a FUN Value of 66. All of Gaster's stats are nothing but sixes. Odds are it's him. Seam's reaction to what happened to Jevil was his worldview getting "darker, yet darker". Entry number 17 implies it being a missing entry in the ones the previous Royal Scientist made, where both Smile plays and he says the phrase "Dark, darker, yet darker". Smile also plays when you try to make a call in the Dark World. Like it or not, Gaster is involved, and is most likely also the mystery man

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop 2 года назад +1

      Afterthought but it's also implied to the point it's almost shoving it in your face that it's Gaster talking at the very start of Deltarune and that he was the one who hijacked the Twitter to release it

  • @zixvirzjghamn737
    @zixvirzjghamn737 2 года назад

    where's the evidence that spamton used to be the same color and shape as the other addissons

  • @mask_vids9834
    @mask_vids9834 2 года назад

    whenever someone mentions the mister caller or the knight to be gaster I'm just going to assume they mean the caller or knight instead because I'm just so tired of this.

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop 2 года назад +1

      The caller was probably Gaster but the Knight could be any of so many other people

  • @kopwagwan7793
    @kopwagwan7793 2 года назад

    Mike rook

  • @Unluckydood
    @Unluckydood 2 года назад +1

    [kromer]

  • @kopwagwan7793
    @kopwagwan7793 2 года назад

    Earth is just chess. Btw

  • @hamburgerhamburgerv2
    @hamburgerhamburgerv2 2 года назад +1

    Only 530 views? How?

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад

      The channel's growing bit by bit at least!

  • @Deadchannelformerlyb
    @Deadchannelformerlyb 2 года назад +4

    I don’t think the person who drove spamton insane is gaster, I think it’s mike

  • @thecaptain0003
    @thecaptain0003 2 года назад +5

    Hey! Just a heads up, Kris' pronouns are they/them.

  • @name-h7x
    @name-h7x 10 месяцев назад

    pipis

  • @Ganchanzilla
    @Ganchanzilla 2 года назад +1

    Friendly reminder that Kris uses they/them pronouns (Shawm and Swatch do as well)

    • @tricktheorists
      @tricktheorists  2 года назад +1

      I didn't realize that about Shawm and Swatch! Thank you.

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 2 года назад +1

    =D

  • @danninicholas159
    @danninicholas159 2 года назад

    3

  • @normalpair
    @normalpair Год назад

    Kris is genderless. Stop saying him or his.

  • @Redlobstermarjane
    @Redlobstermarjane 2 года назад +1

    Eighth

  • @valmetcat8042
    @valmetcat8042 2 года назад

    Man you like to stretch out the video as much as possible

  • @KynG5
    @KynG5 2 года назад +2

    Nineteenth

    • @KynG5
      @KynG5 2 года назад

      Lol

  • @ivythay4259
    @ivythay4259 2 года назад

    Please...just refer to Kris by their actual pronouns.

  • @ferox850
    @ferox850 2 года назад

    Here before 10000 views lmao

  • @chrisprattofficial
    @chrisprattofficial 2 года назад +2

    Second

  • @taffles7498
    @taffles7498 2 года назад +1

    Seventh

  • @Totta_turiset
    @Totta_turiset 2 года назад +1

    First

  • @YukiMorrow105
    @YukiMorrow105 2 года назад +1

    Bruh??!?!?!? SPamton???!?!?!? you sussy baakaa!?!?!??!?!? ඞඞඞඞඞ!?!??!?!? sussyss!??!?!?!?!?!? Among us ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ???1+1??!?!?!?!+1?!?!+1+

  • @nobodyatall1979
    @nobodyatall1979 2 года назад

    Third?