Its such a learning curve to get used to it in wilds lol feels so different from world and I was worried I wouldn’t like it but I’m actually really happy with it! Excited to keep learning
Hard thing to adjust to is the loss of power stance, keep pressing B/circle to do that and dodge instead 😂 but bonk is not bothered bonk is still bonking
@@abobebsisame bro! i was so bummed out they changed the hammer. i’m sure it’s good but i’m not looking to relearn something i already thought i had nailed down since world. I’m also going back to LS n SnS till end game then relearn hammer after.
Man the hammer feels SOOOOOOO good in this game, used to play bow on worlds but now I’m a hammer main I just love it, can’t wait for the full game, stopped playing videos games years ago but this is getting me back
As a hammer bro I like greatsword. The only reason I never stayed with it was the mobility aspect. It was hard for me to wrap my mind around d needing to keep sheathing it to reposition. But imma give it another shot in wilds
Great video Cowboy! I love these guides as i haven't been able to play the beta yet due to a busy work schedule. Lots of cool changes to all of the weapons. I want to add a cool side note: blunt weapons like hammer can not only deal KO damage very well but they can also build exhaust damage. Performed by striking a monster's body instead of their head. Hunting horn is another great weapon for this and other weapons like bow, switch axe and IG have certain skills/abilities that builds exhaust as well. The monster will show signs of this by drooling and pausing (shown like its catching its breath) in between actions. slow and sometimes incomplete moves as well. I love mentioning this because a lot of folks experience these things during hunts but are unaware that they can actually trigger/contribute to this effect. However, in some game versions Iceborne, the effectiveness of exhaust may be reduced due to the ability to force monsters into an enraged state. But i digress, I always stress to newer players to not be afraid to play a role when playing in groups, and while its fun to just deal damage, some weapons really shine in their nuances. intrinsically, KOs happen during a hunt but make it an objective to keep triggering them for your team for maximum fun and DPS. Cheers!
One thing i realized with the hammer upswing is that if u press Y once, u have about 4 seconds to continue the rest of the Y combo and you can move alittle. This helps a lot with getting the timing of monsters to parry with the upswing.
one you start using the whole kit it really comes together! that flowstate is essential to get faster hunts. dont forget to also use the claw for a dash while charging, closing the gap even faster!
That's the one downside to it for me. Having the downside behind a 3 move combo minimum is a bit much. Makes me feel likes it's not worth doing because you'll be spending time setting it up instead of going for that KO build up.
If I added another offset it would be the chain upswing you get after a charged hit. Tbh I think it's intentional though and keeps us focused on mobility and managing when we choose to commit. Plus I frames on the charge step are pretty good to avoid damage.
I was disappointed by the capcom showcase, but hands-on now didn't realize just how much more damage uptime Hammer has by simply better aiming its attacks and not having any "ends" to the combos anymore. Finally feels A or S tier instead of C tier
i used to time the mighty charge attack directly.. fun simple risk/reward approach! now capcom is forcing you to use so many combo strings which introduce many problems, simple example is this part (11:41).. hammer moto is aim always for the head.. but we know being front the monster is very risky.. but now you are forced to stay longer with these combos and you must do counter attacks otherwise you will be injured.. let alone dealing with fast moving monsters.. they need to make these strings shorter and more simple.. and cut the extra crap.
The only thing I'm still getting used to is managing up swing, without a quick charge reset it requires a lot more attention to timing to get your upswing to close ground.
Cowboy I noticed you spend quite a long time in focus mode. I initially thought it was just for targeting wounds but watching your gameplay it looks like it makes aiming all of your attacks a lot easier in general. Do you have it set to toggle or hold for left trigger?
Thank you for the tips sir. I have over 1500 total hours of time in Monster Hunter World and Rise, and all the changes to the weapons is messing me up. I like what I am seeing with the new gameplay, but figuring out the new moves is not very intuitive. Thank you for putting the work in to figuring it out and then sharing it with us. Bravo Zulu!
yes they are now forcing you into combos mindset.. this defeats purpose what makes the hammer unique which simplicity.. there are plenty of combo oriented weapons of the game.. so why hammer becoming like this is really dumb.. i feel hammer is just bulkier version of switch axe.. standing doing all these strings.
So if your slidng down a mountain as u charge your hammer to red youll do a Flipping Hammer Move... so damn dope.. i thought they forgot to put it back in the game lol. but thats the only way of doing it as of now
I've been seeing some hammer speedrunners going for a 2x overhead smash, then upswing into a might charge slam combo whenever a monster is either stationary or they're knocked down. Is there a reason you go for a 4x big bang into a mighty charge slam combo, does that do more damage?
The first one you mentioned does more damage and has the benefit of the upswing being an offset attack. So you can even take some risk in setting it up.
I'd have to run the math but I think its just fun. Chasing after speed run techniques in MH takes away half your moveset usually and makes weapons not as fun, like sword and shield where all you really did was spam perfect rush in iceborne.
@@FightinCowboy Ive never been the one to sort with speed run strats all the time, especially when I’m hunting with people but it’s nice knowing what are optimal ways to dishing more damage(if the team isn’t dishing enough damage, I can pick up the slack). I’m all for using different combos based on the situation so it’s nice to take advantage and learn every move for each weapon type has.
I was just thinking something similar; like a quick spin then throw/lunge in a direction, so can be an advanced dodge or a medium hit with 'poise' boost, maybe even turned into a jump to hit air orne targets and combo to a ground smash. The hammer is great but wish there was more to it
KO isn't a damage type necessarily. Any hits the hammer does to the head is building up the stun/KO threshold on top of damage. The uppercut has always just done a lot of stun buildup.
Is the offset of the hammer comparably useless? Greatsword and switch axe have their own follow up attacks after offset but for hammer you just continue regularly.
After offset you get a free mighty charge. It doesn't run at the monster like the Greatsword follow up but its super strong to go straight into mighty charge if you are close enough.
How easy is this to play on PC? I did alright in Worlds on PS4 , but the camera just felt too slow and clunky. Love this franchise, and I just got a new gaming pc, so I'm hoping mouse & keyboard won't be a pain to relearn.
Mouse and keyboard feels really solid definitely a large improvement from Iceborne release I’ve not really had to rebind a whole lot to make it comfortable. I have a 14 button mouse so your results may vary.
It's got combos, a lot of them now. But the beauty of the hammer from before is now gone. In Mhw and rise you could charge up a big bang finisher for an opening and unleash it. It's working well now because the monsters in the beta have good openings and aren't super fast, but all those combos aren't going to do much vs a fast end game monster I feel. It's also really bad at opening wounds from what it looks like.
@FightinCowboy Oh! Alright, thank you. I must have just watched another video where they called it a counter. I'll have to have a look at the manual; hard to remember some of this stuff.
I mean it functions as a counter. The 2 new mechanics names are "Clash" and "Offset". Clashes refer to repeated blocking and eventually you clash with the monster and do big damage after throwing them off the shield. Offset's are a pre-emptive counter attack that if you connect with the monster as they attack you knock them back and in some cases get a unique follow-up attack for free.
@@FightinCowboy Ahhh okay... I've only used DB and hammer so far, just beat Rei Dau with both. I tried looking at the in game tutorials and weapon controls (under play guide in the start menu) and both seemed very shallow. Is there more in game resources that I'm missing? Sorry to bug ya.
That's all, hence why I did breakdowns for every weapon. A lot of monster hunter knowledge is passed down through the community which is both ridiculous and also kind of endearing.
The change that make me very sad is the different impact feeling from Wilds, for example the Hammer sliding down attack ( the rotation that you show with the mount but without the mount like in MH World ) has much less impact feeling, like other attacks, that kind of " animation stop frame " when you hit a monster, in World was SO GOOD and satisfying, but here....is really different and they probably wants to make it more " arcade " and fast, and i miss so much that world sensation...what do you think? To me is a little and important negative side of the gameplay..
I killed Zapdos last night while jumping on the PC beta with each weapon type. Hammer and Gunlance are my favorites. The anime swords (LS ans DB) are very fun as well. My only small adjust is trying to fit in affinity summersault. The super slide speed and bigger arch took the longest to adjust.
@@FightinCowboy i don't have a PS5 or a good PC to play the beta so i can't test for myself, i was going to buy a PS5 just to play this game but i gave up and i might spent on a good PC
Its such a learning curve to get used to it in wilds lol feels so different from world and I was worried I wouldn’t like it but I’m actually really happy with it! Excited to keep learning
Hammer bros, we're back!!!
Oh yesh!
It’s bang time 😂
We never left 😉
Must be nice :(
@@Xmanonly ain't no weapon that delivers the weapon KO thrill that hammer does, the physics are top tier
Bonk is Love, Bonk is Life! Wilds cant come soon enough!!! Thanks Cowboy!
Hard thing to adjust to is the loss of power stance, keep pressing B/circle to do that and dodge instead 😂 but bonk is not bothered bonk is still bonking
Hahaha yeah I'm doing the same thing as well. The world muscle memory is hard to overcome.
@@anguspollock7529not just World but Rise too. This feels like a whole different weapon haha
Ngl , no power stance im going with long sword again
@@abobebsisame bro! i was so bummed out they changed the hammer. i’m sure it’s good but i’m not looking to relearn something i already thought i had nailed down since world. I’m also going back to LS n SnS till end game then relearn hammer after.
that dodge is great tho, you can dodge or go to the target quickly without losing the charge
you can mighty charge after the golf swing with RT, Y+B
Man the hammer feels SOOOOOOO good in this game, used to play bow on worlds but now I’m a hammer main I just love it, can’t wait for the full game, stopped playing videos games years ago but this is getting me back
That's a hell of a transition. But glad for u to join thr hammer bros
the offset and perfect guard mechanic of wilds is chefs kiis
I killed Ray Dau with Hammer tonight! Being in his face is a scary place but a lot of my hits struck true! I think I’m a Hammer Bro now!
Love that it’s quite similar to World so I can pick it up and enjoy it comfortably
It being so similar to world is so fking ass
Missed the most important part......The OP Ledge hop is still here for hammer!
played the beta for 6 hours had no idea you could talk to the lady next to the tent and start a quest.
Hammer frickin rules this time around, I’ve been a greatsword main forever but I played hammer and absolutely loved it
As a hammer bro I like greatsword. The only reason I never stayed with it was the mobility aspect. It was hard for me to wrap my mind around d needing to keep sheathing it to reposition. But imma give it another shot in wilds
Great video Cowboy! I love these guides as i haven't been able to play the beta yet due to a busy work schedule. Lots of cool changes to all of the weapons. I want to add a cool side note: blunt weapons like hammer can not only deal KO damage very well but they can also build exhaust damage. Performed by striking a monster's body instead of their head. Hunting horn is another great weapon for this and other weapons like bow, switch axe and IG have certain skills/abilities that builds exhaust as well. The monster will show signs of this by drooling and pausing (shown like its catching its breath) in between actions. slow and sometimes incomplete moves as well. I love mentioning this because a lot of folks experience these things during hunts but are unaware that they can actually trigger/contribute to this effect. However, in some game versions Iceborne, the effectiveness of exhaust may be reduced due to the ability to force monsters into an enraged state. But i digress, I always stress to newer players to not be afraid to play a role when playing in groups, and while its fun to just deal damage, some weapons really shine in their nuances. intrinsically, KOs happen during a hunt but make it an objective to keep triggering them for your team for maximum fun and DPS. Cheers!
I've been going through this series and I keep thinking, oh I'll do this weapon..next vid, oh I'll do this weapon. They all look so fun!
One thing i realized with the hammer upswing is that if u press Y once, u have about 4 seconds to continue the rest of the Y combo and you can move alittle. This helps a lot with getting the timing of monsters to parry with the upswing.
one you start using the whole kit it really comes together! that flowstate is essential to get faster hunts.
dont forget to also use the claw for a dash while charging, closing the gap even faster!
Hammer really feels like it needs easier access to an Offset attack.
I think that would take it from solid to peak.
Yeah, it has too much setup. Can never hit it consistently. Either that or make the upswing an offset as well
That's the one downside to it for me. Having the downside behind a 3 move combo minimum is a bit much. Makes me feel likes it's not worth doing because you'll be spending time setting it up instead of going for that KO build up.
If I added another offset it would be the chain upswing you get after a charged hit.
Tbh I think it's intentional though and keeps us focused on mobility and managing when we choose to commit. Plus I frames on the charge step are pretty good to avoid damage.
I'm in love with he hyper armor on the upswing charge release and on the mighty charge slam.
I was disappointed by the capcom showcase, but hands-on now didn't realize just how much more damage uptime Hammer has by simply better aiming its attacks and not having any "ends" to the combos anymore. Finally feels A or S tier instead of C tier
"So how was hammer school today?"
Yes.
Thank you for this video, very well explained. Love it!
i used to time the mighty charge attack directly.. fun simple risk/reward approach! now capcom is forcing you to use so many combo strings which introduce many problems, simple example is this part (11:41).. hammer moto is aim always for the head.. but we know being front the monster is very risky.. but now you are forced to stay longer with these combos and you must do counter attacks otherwise you will be injured.. let alone dealing with fast moving monsters.. they need to make these strings shorter and more simple.. and cut the extra crap.
Great vid - hammer main here and I gotta say, we’re eating good lol
The only thing I'm still getting used to is managing up swing, without a quick charge reset it requires a lot more attention to timing to get your upswing to close ground.
Good work, Cowboy.
Cowboy I noticed you spend quite a long time in focus mode. I initially thought it was just for targeting wounds but watching your gameplay it looks like it makes aiming all of your attacks a lot easier in general. Do you have it set to toggle or hold for left trigger?
Hes got it on toggle
Yup, toggle is super nice once you adjust to it
Thank you for the tips sir. I have over 1500 total hours of time in Monster Hunter World and Rise, and all the changes to the weapons is messing me up. I like what I am seeing with the new gameplay, but figuring out the new moves is not very intuitive. Thank you for putting the work in to figuring it out and then sharing it with us. Bravo Zulu!
yes they are now forcing you into combos mindset.. this defeats purpose what makes the hammer unique which simplicity..
there are plenty of combo oriented weapons of the game.. so why hammer becoming like this is really dumb.. i feel hammer is just bulkier version of switch axe.. standing doing all these strings.
Always loved the hammer! Bonk bonk!
I wish these woods hurry up & release the game I’m trying to MC Hammer these monsters already
Thanks for this!
New to monster hunter scene thinking of going with the hammer.
Mostly becuase i always rock hammers in darksouls/elden ring
Hammer bros unite!!!!
I unga and therefore must bunga
I can see myself now mighty charge slamming monsters in the head while they are asleep
So if your slidng down a mountain as u charge your hammer to red youll do a Flipping Hammer Move... so damn dope.. i thought they forgot to put it back in the game lol. but thats the only way of doing it as of now
how do you time the offset attack with weapons ? a short video on the timing would be really helpful. for the visual cues and such
The offset should connect same time as you're about to get hit. Its a pretty generous window once you get the timing down.
damm this is wild.. need to learn the hammer
when you did the offset attack at 10:24, does hammer not have a follow-up attack after doing offset attack?
You can prep a mighty charge but it doesn't have a chase down like GS does.
"We could have been bonkin that entire time!!"
I've been seeing some hammer speedrunners going for a 2x overhead smash, then upswing into a might charge slam combo whenever a monster is either stationary or they're knocked down. Is there a reason you go for a 4x big bang into a mighty charge slam combo, does that do more damage?
The first one you mentioned does more damage and has the benefit of the upswing being an offset attack. So you can even take some risk in setting it up.
I'd have to run the math but I think its just fun. Chasing after speed run techniques in MH takes away half your moveset usually and makes weapons not as fun, like sword and shield where all you really did was spam perfect rush in iceborne.
@@FightinCowboy Ive never been the one to sort with speed run strats all the time, especially when I’m hunting with people but it’s nice knowing what are optimal ways to dishing more damage(if the team isn’t dishing enough damage, I can pick up the slack). I’m all for using different combos based on the situation so it’s nice to take advantage and learn every move for each weapon type has.
When should I use Focus Blow: Earthquake?
Anytime you can hit a wound.
2:15 i wish from here we could just yeet the hammer at the monster, sounds fun to me
I was just thinking something similar; like a quick spin then throw/lunge in a direction, so can be an advanced dodge or a medium hit with 'poise' boost, maybe even turned into a jump to hit air orne targets and combo to a ground smash. The hammer is great but wish there was more to it
Omg this!! HAMMER YEET!
Is there still a parry into upswing
Upswing is basically a parry now
Did they get rid of having the charge on forever, till you get hit or get out of it? The charge goes away after the first hit?
Correct.
the uppercut is too good in wilds
As a hammer main, i love it in wilds. Can you tell me how you know what does KO dmg vs regular dmg?
KO isn't a damage type necessarily. Any hits the hammer does to the head is building up the stun/KO threshold on top of damage. The uppercut has always just done a lot of stun buildup.
Ty
Is the offset of the hammer comparably useless? Greatsword and switch axe have their own follow up attacks after offset but for hammer you just continue regularly.
Comparably yeah kinda. But at least it has the utility at all despite no follow ups. Definitely useful but not as good as others.
After offset you get a free mighty charge. It doesn't run at the monster like the Greatsword follow up but its super strong to go straight into mighty charge if you are close enough.
@@xplux24 I guess it would be better if it also ran at the monster as it is not rare that you are far from the monster to connect mighty charge
How are you able to craft armors? Tried talking to the armorsmith, but she said they are still setting shop
You can't in the test
You have to take it from your box in your tent
@@FightinCowboy Thank you. Can not wait for the game to come out.
How easy is this to play on PC? I did alright in Worlds on PS4 , but the camera just felt too slow and clunky.
Love this franchise, and I just got a new gaming pc, so I'm hoping mouse & keyboard won't be a pain to relearn.
Mouse and keyboard feels really solid definitely a large improvement from Iceborne release I’ve not really had to rebind a whole lot to make it comfortable.
I have a 14 button mouse so your results may vary.
@radagonsoreseal3457 oh geez. Yea I just have a 5 button Logitech 🤣 but that's encouraging ❤️ thank you.
Looks like TCS is no longer the single highest damaging hit anymore
It's got combos, a lot of them now. But the beauty of the hammer from before is now gone. In Mhw and rise you could charge up a big bang finisher for an opening and unleash it. It's working well now because the monsters in the beta have good openings and aren't super fast, but all those combos aren't going to do much vs a fast end game monster I feel. It's also really bad at opening wounds from what it looks like.
BONK!!
how did you do that spin to win dismount attack?
Triangle + circle
Power mode is gone? Rip
Is every Upswing a Offset?
Yes
Does the game call it an offset? Ive never heard that term before. I thought it was just a counter.
Yes, it's explicitly listed as an offset in the weapon manual.
@FightinCowboy Oh! Alright, thank you. I must have just watched another video where they called it a counter. I'll have to have a look at the manual; hard to remember some of this stuff.
I mean it functions as a counter. The 2 new mechanics names are "Clash" and "Offset". Clashes refer to repeated blocking and eventually you clash with the monster and do big damage after throwing them off the shield. Offset's are a pre-emptive counter attack that if you connect with the monster as they attack you knock them back and in some cases get a unique follow-up attack for free.
@@FightinCowboy Ahhh okay... I've only used DB and hammer so far, just beat Rei Dau with both. I tried looking at the in game tutorials and weapon controls (under play guide in the start menu) and both seemed very shallow. Is there more in game resources that I'm missing?
Sorry to bug ya.
That's all, hence why I did breakdowns for every weapon. A lot of monster hunter knowledge is passed down through the community which is both ridiculous and also kind of endearing.
How do you craft armor in the beta?
Just go to the camp, the armors is already made for you into your box
The change that make me very sad is the different impact feeling from Wilds, for example the Hammer sliding down attack ( the rotation that you show with the mount but without the mount like in MH World ) has much less impact feeling, like other attacks, that kind of " animation stop frame " when you hit a monster, in World was SO GOOD and satisfying, but here....is really different and they probably wants to make it more " arcade " and fast, and i miss so much that world sensation...what do you think? To me is a little and important negative side of the gameplay..
I think I might gotta try the hammer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait we dont have to shapren the hammer anymore( which never made sense)?? Oh hell yea hammer bros we up.
We do.
jfc the PC optimization is truly awful this time around, I was bonking triangles and squares instead of heads. 😆
I killed Zapdos last night while jumping on the PC beta with each weapon type.
Hammer and Gunlance are my favorites. The anime swords (LS ans DB) are very fun as well.
My only small adjust is trying to fit in affinity summersault. The super slide speed and bigger arch took the longest to adjust.
no more sliding? that's a pity
Slide into spin 2 win? Pretty sure that's still in.
@@FightinCowboy i don't have a PS5 or a good PC to play the beta so i can't test for myself, i was going to buy a PS5 just to play this game but i gave up and i might spent on a good PC
Ill be streaming tomorrow so ill check then
Was jumping on to test something else so I pulled out hammer and confirmed. Just hold and release R2 while sliding like world.
@@FightinCowboynice, thanks for clearing my doubts 😃
Why is the level 3 forward smash gone? For me after playing rise for more than 200h the hammer feals just weird.
Like if you are a BONK MAIN!
i miss the unflinch charge you could havbe in world
Hold R2, press triangle and circle. Rinse and repeat. 😮💨
There's more to it than that but maybe hammer isn't for you.
Hammer is simple, some of us hunters are simple brains 🧠 😂
If hammers to simple for you try hunting horn. Theres like 7 different things to keep track with on that weapon now.
you're playing wilds hammer incorrectly if that's how you play
No hitstop so it's bad. Doesn't feel rewarding to play now.
No power stance means its trash