@@iDontProgramInCpp If US implemented this law successfully Europe and other regions will catch up eventually, it's just a matter of time. Everyone *loves* safety
Unpopular and inconvenient truth: there were CIA wikileaks in 2017 I believe, that talked about how the future of assassinations would be to remotely connect to cars and have their tech run themselves off the road, so hearing this is totally unsurprising. Edit: lmfao you literally cover it a little bit in the vid, noice.
@@ItsMeeJon Not regular gas cars. Edit: More modern cars apparently use electronics to control the steering column, along with other components so nvm.
Only in America will you find people opposed to measures to limit drunk drivers. The government will not stop your car if you aren't doing something illegal. You're opposing a bill that will save thousands of innocent lives in the future, one that may be used by law enforcement to end dangerous high-speed chases, and get criminals off our streets.
@@Genshinlmpact obviously you didn't watch the video that already counters this statement. But who knows, you might be a wannabe bureaucrat who wishes to be a position of power to use and abuse a law like this. Centralization does not increase protection, it actually increases vulnerabilities. Especially when the heavily centralized system ignores actual legit threats; especially those outside: coughChinacough.
@@Genshinlmpact are you nuts……? Just how many women have been raped by cops? I’ll tell in the last nine years there have been more than 400 women raped! See this according to CNN: police officers in the US were charged with forcible rape 405 times between 2005 and 2013. That’s an average of 45 a year. Forcible fondling was more common, with 636 instances. Still think giving cop an attack weapon! Think about it this way. Your daughter is leaving from work late one night and a cop see her pull of work…….. he follows her and then killing her car and he then rescues her and never tell her he’s the who killed her car! So do you still want to give them another tool to attack us?
I remember when they deemed liquor stores essential business during the pandemic in my area. Now they use drunk driving as a reason to enforce more authoritarian policies. Classic.
@@lolwtnick4362 That's absolutely not true. You'd be shocked how many highly successful people are alcoholics. Chances are at least one skilled professional you know and rely on in your own life is an alcoholic and you don't even know it. Could be your GP, your lawyer, CPA... not all alcoholics are obvious bums
@@willcresson8776 This is a part of alcoholism that people aren't aware of. Lots of personality disorders go hand in hand with "functional alcoholism".
I love how bureaucrats live in a fantasy world of their own. They don't really care how something is going to work, or if it can work. They are totally disconnected from reality, acting like goddamn children.
Oh don't worry about it, my driver knows what he is doing, god forbid i had to drive a car myself instead of being in the back sipping on the finest cognac.
They are often completely disconnected from reality they use the term for the children to pull at your heart strings and cloud your judgement when what they're trying to push is a bigger threat to any children you have then what they're claiming to protect them from. This would actually make them less safe as the government will abuse it and hacker will exploit it and they'll be subject to the whims of foreign groups. For example they become an advocate for workers rights at Amazon so they pay the local police department to shut off the car while it's on an off ramp or They speak up about China's treatment of Uyghurs and Falun Gong or Israel's actions in Palestine and the MSS or Mossad is tasked with silencing them. They won't even have to get their hands dirty like when they killed Gerald Bull just find their target's accounts with that vehicle and exploit it.
@@frankfalkenburry5373 by the government maybe (which is bad enough), but if done poorly this can lead to members of the public being better able to track or stalk other people. Especially when you consider the way each manufacturer might do it could be different with varying levels of security.
@@xxportalxx. Yeah, I can imagine someone simply getting distracted by looking at something or hearing something in the radio and fumbling for a second to hold the gear stick being considered drunk and shutting the vehicle off. "But the technology identified he couldn't hold the gear stick so he had to be impaired!"
My mother asked me why I was paranoid about technology in cars. I gave her an admittedly paranoid example that her car is technically openly receiving information from outside the car and that is not outside the realm of possibility that some asshat could go watchdogs on her car and do malicious things with it. (I also said something about being able to run incase a solar flare fucks all of us over too. :P) That being said, that was one of many times I wish I was wrong. I don't fear technology because I don't understand it. I fear it because I understand it enough to know what kind of horseshit it can do to fuck us, yet not enough to easily outwit it short of avoid or at least limit using it.
Similar here. "Y u fear tech" I don't fear tech, I fear what all you idiots will allow it to be used for, just as an excuse for more 'additional functions'(distractions) and 'safety'(blockades). I can operate and somewhat modify each piece of stuff I own, from shoes and leather jackets, to the car, computers and their peripherals. It is people like you, who think tech should be easy to operate, that cost us a great deal. Cause you will never repair your equipment or use it past its warranty, cause you're a consumer, while we are customers. We buy shit and take care of it until it is reduced to a irreparable pile of its elements, you throw an entire 10000$ computer away cause one capacitor was blown.
My philosophy on technology is that it should be the safest and most effective low-tech solution for it's needs. Or in other words, I know that spaceships need high-tech equipment but my toaster does not need WiFi.
Even cars that are electronically advanced/reliant will probably survive fine because they're protected well by metal. Maybe not if it was like carbon fiber or something though.
My first car was a 1991 Ford Probe. It looked pretty good for a teenager’s first car back in the late 90s, and I got it for only ~$3,000 used. However, driving it ended up being a complete nightmare due to a so-called “Safety feature.” When the car sustained a big enough bump, the entire car would *SHUT OFF* and the only way to get it to start again was to exit the vehicle, pop the trunk, lift a panel near the left wheel well and flip a hidden switch. To make things worse, the suspension impact required to make this trigger was very small. I’m talking one big pothole or taking a speed bump a little too fast could easily do it. Despite this, the car seemed great when I first started using it in rural, but generally well-paved North Carolina. However, a few months later, I started encountering MAJOR and recurrent problems with the safety feature after moving to a pothole-infested city called Worcester, Massachusetts. I spent a lot of time there in horrendous winter driving conditions while delivering pizza to pay the bills, and I started triggering this terrible feature roughly every other week. This “feature” was as bizarre and unheard of then as it is now so I was totally unaware it existed. The first half dozen or so times it happened I think I had AAA jump the battery, and that caused it to override the need for the switch being toggled back. Eventually, I had enough and had AAA tow it to an unscrupulous mechanic who I believe knowingly repaired something else that didn’t need to be repaired so he could charge me $500. Of course, the issue continued to happen, and finally, I got a knowledgeable AAA guy who knew about the feature, explained it to me, and showed me where to find the quite hidden switch to get the car running again by myself. It was quite relieving to finally understand what was happening, but don’t worry, this story isn’t without a climax. This feature continued to be incredibly annoying, but I was usually moving very slow on some crappy back street when it happened so it was easy to safely coast to the side of the road after the car turned off suddenly. However, the final time it happened was at highway speeds approaching a tunnel connecting New York City with New Jersey. All lanes packed with traffic going 60-75 mph, nowhere to pull over whatsoever and my f’ing car is shutting off again. It was extremely unexpected, as it was a very small pothole I had traveled over and it hadn't occurred on a highway before. I’m with my best friend and his girlfriend. I manage to safely bring the vehicle to a stop in the far right lane without getting rear-ended right near the beginning of the tunnel. I expediently jump out and toggle the switch in the trunk, but when I get back in the car it won’t start this time. I have my friends get out of the vehicle for their safety and begin signaling for someone to call for help, looking at passing traffic holding my hand next to my face pretending it was a phone. Cell phones were fairly new back then and most people still didn’t have one, but it worked. Maybe 25 minutes of watching 70 mph cars wiz by inches from my vulnerable car and friends later, a tow truck arrived. There was no way to back out, and it was also impossible to get hitched up by the tow truck due to the amount of traffic and lack of space…so he used his truck to push my car from behind while I steered it in neutral, ALL the way through the tunnel. On the other side, he pushed me to a side street where he was able to set up to tow me properly. The tow truck brought me to a nearby auto repair shop in Teaneck, New Jersey. The next day when they opened, the shop took a look and let me know that basically my car was totaled. When I had been trapped in the tunnel, I had tried to get my car at least halfway out of the lane to minimize impact to passing traffic (and minimize the chance of it being hit). While the car was still rolling and coming to a stop I shimmied the right two tires up onto a small curb bordering the tunnel’s sidewall. Apparently, when I did this I managed to damage the transmission to the point that it had to be replaced entirely, and the cost of that repair slightly exceeded the remaining total value of the car. So yeah, let’s install a similar "safety feature" on every car starting in 2026, but instead of putting the button inside the car for the driver to reset, we’ll just give all the power to stop and start vehicles to law enforcement. Officers of the law are safe, always correct individuals, so they can stop vehicles whenever they want. We will all be happy and safe. SAFE & HAPPY!!!!!
Going into a tunnel with a car like that and people you love was crazy. I'm relieved anything happened but geez. I'm scared of what will happen in the future with features like that
Thanks for sharing. Elon Musk was demoing a one lane wide, nearly car width "express" underground car tunnel to beat the issue of traffic. Imagine having your vehicle disabled when you're in one of those tubes of the future with cars following 40 to 60 mph behind you?
The concept of: "Oh, we will add this feature to prevent this one thing", but it can be used for many other things, for them to have more power over you.
even if we had a time machine so we can be sure it would ever only be used to stop drunk drivers, its still an overreach that they dont have a right to. The government doesnt own you. If your neighbor was like "hey Bill, Im gonna install this device that lets me turn off your car when I feel you are too drunk", you would be like "fuck off". The government is Bill, except that unlike your neighbor Bill, the government only has itself as an interest, and it has a far greater potential for abuse than Bill does.
Its not just mandatory kill switches, they will have AI monitoring your emotional and mental state to see if you are irritated, or angry, or tired, etc. so your car will essentially be watching your every movement while operating it. the most horrific and disgusting violation of privacy I could think of.
Apparently the right of privacy may soon be nonexistent. (Of course it’s not in the constitution already, the precedents were set up by court decisions and it appears the court may be overturning them) There may come a day where people may be forced to have microchips implanted, have AI monitoring in their homes and cars, voting rights will be taken away, and so on. WE CAN STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING IF WE ACT NOW
@@maclura to clarify privacy was never mentioned in the constitution and the concept arose from supreme court decisions. Now it appears the high court may overturn these decisions based on events happening right now
Cannot wait for two things: 1) Someone figures out how to engage the kill switch using third-party tools 2) Some people use it to commit criminal acts against citizens. You can't escape if your car breaks!
Even worse, they make it into a subscription service/additional fee. You have to call a manufacturer-certified technician to unlock your car and pay them to open it up if you're stuck inside.
People will be interested in bypassing the alcohol lock for sure, but thats three years off, who knows how cucked the general publixc will be by then, look at what happened with C-vid and the injection..
It's so frustrating that the government has become more and more authoritarian. From KYC for crypto to backdoors in pretty much every electronic device. It's like the Minority Report but worse.
I feel like we are living in a horror film. We are living in a reality where people's main method of getting around can be stopped with the press of a button. Insane.
Imagine that, your cars disabled. Cuckerburg is on your windscreen he states, driver metaverse inhabitant. You hearby will be summoned, to conduct hard labour for the algorithm. Your social score is currently inactive. The use of ammenities is granted Upon approval.
@@nillynush4899 ohhh would you look at that, hmm yeah. Nothing to see here. Please transfer fed coin to vehicle, to reach desired destination. Instead of paying gas you pay eth gas prices.
Solution: Actually two. Refuse to buy a new car. keep your old one going! Let the automakers go bankrupt. THey will demand a repeal of this law in no time. Or hack your car.
I really hope more people learn about this, because this is the sort of thing that would absolutely kill the sales of new cars once people actually know about it, and you know the companies would immediately start pouring money through lobbyists to get rid of this if it meant no one was buying their hilariously overpriced new stock.
I won't be buying a new car ever and if they try to force me I would claim in to poor what else am I suppose to do, which I am and then if everyone did it we will have change.
also a gift for auto manufacturers, the planned obsolescence/subscription applications are obvious. i wonder how much of the populace will be too impoverished to afford motor vehicles by 2026, though
This is exactly why these things exist Im sure, almost every single suspicious/fucked up practice involved with any product these days almost ALWAYS comes down to the company trying to force you to buy more
Imagine this situation: You were involved in an accident and got hurt real bad, no time to wait for an ambulance. You get in your car and start driving like a maniac to get help. "this guy has to be drunk" says your car, and off goes the engine and any hope of you surviving.
If you're hurt to the point of not surviving the wait for an ambulance, you're in no condition to drive. I prefer one DoA over a dude leaving a trail of destruction and potential injuries/fatalities behind because he tried to rush himself to a hospital while in shock.
Am I crazy? I distinctly remember them discussing trying to pass a bill about the “kill switch” but I remember it being in the name of “saving the environment”. Something about if someone drives to much or refuses to pay the carbon tax they can just kill the car. When did this become a counter DUI thing?
Morrison Ghost, buy using the drunk driving excuse they can so called justify it in the name of safety. But in reality, it's just another way for the government to control you. More bullshit government overreach.
The movie "Upgrade" has a universe with many cars with similar functionality, and there's a really great scene where there's a car chase, both people don't have electronic cars and are unable to be stopped. But one of them just hacks the car in front of them to drive backwards, crashing into the chaser.
Yeah and doesn't the protagonist and his wife get control-driven into the evil lair where they are murdered at the beginning? Great movie, scarily ahead of its time.
Imagine you're just driving to a store, peacefully, not breaking any laws, even staying within the speed limit, and then your engine randomly stops and you crash into a random building killing 3 innocent pedestrians and dying, just because some federal agent pressed 5 instead of S and typed in your license plate into the killswitch
Who would be liable for that? Pretty hard to prove afterwards. Imagine stopping in the left lane on the highway. In Germany this would be absolutely fatal as you’d be hit by cars regularly going up to 230 km/h from behind.
Just an addition, killing your engine does not cut your steering or brakes, so that probably would not happen. I do see what you mean though, pretty dangerous, especially if it automatically smashes the brakes on the highway or icy roads.
It's not as far fetched as it might seem. I got toll violation tickets for three years straight because the traffic cameras couldn't identify somebody else's car. I had the toll company in my contacts, and would just patiently tell them to look at the photos again. They'd cancel the fine, and I'd wait for the next letter! XD
@@andrewgreeb916 on 2007-2016 era cars a lot of people have been able to make a massive profit off of removing electronic speed monitors and such but nowadays it’s becoming harder and harder to do that with the complication of how overengineered modern cars are. Hopefully that isn’t the case for this
Nah, people still call me explaining that Facebook spies on you ad a conspiracy theory. Most either won't know about this, won't believe in this, or won't care.
@@Woozie894 Man it's wild, eh? This is exactly why I refuse to buy fully electric vehicles. The fact that some random person has access to and API where they can tick a box and render my vehicle inoperable does not sit well with me.
i used to say to my friends about the future "imagine getting in your car and it wont go where you want. imagine your car wont take you to the food you want bc its unhealthy, or you drive too fast, or the area is deemed "unsafe" . i have seen this coming for ages. this will be HUUUUGE for law enforcement. huuuuuge for fees, penalties...and i think it will go further. and we're too busy arguing amongst ourselves to stop it. dream scenario for politicians, theyve got us right where they want us. we do nothing
@@zabunko theyre putting them on all new cars though. eventually the old glowless cars will die out, either because theyre slow or they crashed or broke down. do you see people still driving around in cars from the 70s very often? we need a way to disable the technology on new cars. driving old cars is not good enough. another way to put it, are you typing this on a machine with an intel chip from before 2006 to escape from intel me? i doubt it. those things are painfully slow, too slow for youtube.
imagine how the government will abuse this for lockdowns, quarantines, and curfews. They can target entire populations with this, not just individuals.
Exactly what I was thinking. Imagine if state governments or even the feds wanted to do a national lockdown due to a pandemic or some other "emergency."
Way I see it? It's that these people might actually belive that this will help with what they are saying, and are not using it for those purposes really. The way I see most politicians is they are idiots that try to solve any problems the most ass backwards way possible so it can look good on the resume. After all, it's easier to sell a tech solution for things like drunk driving rather than say oh i don't know, GET US TO NOT USE FUCKING CARS
not everyone. only people rich enough to get a 2026 or newer, which will be insanely expensive if the current market is any indication. Now in the next 25 years we might have problems.
Reminds me of all the mysterious 'accidents' where people unexplicably decide to drive 120mph into walls or houses. Weirdly, it seems to be only newer cars. And that is excluding all of the CIintons' former 'friends' It's one hell of a time-sink, to find snippets around the web. All hail OSIS
That's due to improper installations of automobile floor mats. You push the accelerator a little too low, and it gets stuck under the mat. Some failures in the braking system prevent it from re-braking (at least in some old versions of Hyundai cars) if the brake pedal has been pressed down and then lifted (happens when people uncontrollably start speeding, they rapidly push the brake pedal down, and by mistake lift their foot off of it.). Had there been more legislation in place to regulate low quality floor mats, or compatibility checks for certain vehicles, these tragedies would not have occurred.
@@Genshinlmpact i know where you're coming from, but Im not talking about the Prius-saga or anything like that, im talking instances like the recent "Anne Heche" Brand new Mini Cooper. She crashed at an estimated 120 i believe. And the toxicology report came back - She was sober, no drugs no alcohol
@@Genshinlmpact On a different note bro, what is up with your channel. 95 subs 47 views. And "test" 1 month ago. Have you bought or inherited that channel?
Yeah, but it's not the "wearing black sunglasses on a trenchcoat while eating ramen noodles in Chinatown with my mechanical submachine gun arm" sci-fi future
A better solution would be to buy an older microwave that's still working. That way, your microwave can't even show you any ads and you can't be hacked.
Not to be pedantic, but even removing the potential for it to be abused by law enforcement from the equation, it's a terrible idea. The bill doesn't explain how the technology is supposed to monitor driver behavior, or even crazier, how its supposed to detect your blood alcohol level. It leaves so much flexibility for carmakers to go overboard at the manufacturing level, or for the tech to malfunction, potentially stopping your car when you weren't doing anything wrong and killing you in an accident. I guess all I'm saying is I give this proposal a 0/10, government gets no points for how insanely stupid this is.
The bill doesn't explain any of that because as usual, politicians are morons. They've simply told the auto industry to "figure it out". They don't care how. That's the kind of idiots we're dealing with. They don't need to be smart to be dystopian.
@C it'll be like one of those tests for the blood sugar levels. They'll puncture your skin to extract blood to monitor the bac after you've strapped the belt and turned the ignition.
@@99temporal Which is still pretty stupid. They don't think ahead to how this may end up killing them. Just like all the evil dictators throughout history who were the same way, most of whom met a bad end. Not too bright.
The only way I see how they could measure it would be to monitor the alcohol in the air. But if you have two drunk people in the backseat that's obviously not going to work.
Luckily car tuner shops usually make custom tunes that can remove vehicle functions and disable them completely. They made one for 07-13 silverados that shuts off the cylinder deactivation feature. So luckily we’ll probably be able to remove these devices
I think they also make devices that you can plug in the car to disable AFM so you don't grenade your engine. Chrysler/Dodge hemis also had issues related to cylinder deactivation, MDS as it's called in those vehicles.
@@enermaxstephens1051 Trouble is law makers will always find ways to break or change the laws in ways they see fit. Especially if it gives them more power.
Much more serious laws have passed and no one batted an eye, like the patriot act or the plandemic bull💩 we're facing now. Pushback won't do anything. Just hope the inevitable collapse of the USA and the subsequent renaissance is soon.
Imagine if the us would just have a function public transit and walkable/ cycleable streets. Imagine how many people it would prevent from drunk driving. Where I live (the Netherlands) we hardly have any drunk drivers. If you want to go drinking you can just take the train or bike.
The bill states nothing like this. It doesn't specify that it needs to be remote nor does it say that it should cut the engine in the middle of the road if it sees that you are driving strangely. Where is this idea coming from?
It's just another tool to reinforce the "Do what we say or we'll take something important way from you". And don't you DARE think for one moment this will EVER be restricted to be used for only drunk driving. 10 to 1 one of the first additional uses will be to punish dads who get behind on child support.
@@Terranallias18 My children are grown adults now and are off in the world, working and able to support themselves. Before that however, YES, I absolutely supported my children and actually OVER paid on support and never asked for any of it back. I still try to help support them now even though they fight me on it and tell me they don't need it.
To add on to that, from what I have seen myself, it's the actual state being the asshole that won't pay for child support and not parties involved. I've seen people get sent to court for failure to pay child support when they get remarried. It's fucking pathetic and really shows how much of a lazy pathetic slob most states are.
In few years: >Government tries to halt car driven by the criminal >Doesn't work because, you know, criminals doesn't give a damn about breaking the law and disabling it
@@JohnnyRep-hz5qh Also, editing should be mandatory. If you can fill a 50 page document with something that can be summarized in a few plainly written paragraphs, you're probably hiding something.
They’re inflating the fuel prices on purpose to try and force people to buy electric cars. I’ve spoken to EV owners and their batteries degrade over time so I suspect even EVs will adopt some kind of subscription model in the future.
You ever notice how movies and TV promote conspiracy theories? They don't always come out and say the real ones because that would be too edgey but will give a different version to make people think about it without being offended. I remember that for a B rate action film about a terrorist attack that was going to be an inside job but gets stopped by the main characters who are civillians. And as we all know the entertainment executives, directors, actors etc are friends with politicians. X-men Days of Future Past: Magneto assassinated JFK Men in Black: The entire premise of the series Doctor Who: Half the cars in the world are outfitted with self driving functionality from a tech company which proceed to kill their passengers. It seems like they're warning us about the future but I'm starting to wonder if they're giving the politicians and feds their best ideas for a dystopia.
@@Bangy yeah that’s true. All batteries degrade over time just like with phones and laptops. It’s an unfortunate reality. Hopefully battery technology advances to where this isn’t an issue anymore.
When the boomers die off and are no longer in office, gen x and millenials will take the place. We can only hope they're the freedom blend and not Avocado.
@@Acinelli assuming the 80-year old boomers don’t get replaced with 80-year old millennials, and someone actually remembers this before taking their Alzheimer’s pills
I think you should have included the actual process Volvo takes with their impairment detection technology. Volvo will first ask if you’re okay if it notices erratic driving. If you say you’re alright, it will continue to let you drive until it detects another reason to believe impairment and the car will actually pull itself over and contact law enforcement itself. That’s at least what I heard from the demos provided with in the past
They're already beginning to prevent us from opening bonnets/hoods of cars on electric vehicles, I wouldn't be surprised if that starts occuring with most newer cars.
So later on, once we all start bypassing this device, it becomes a federal felony to remove or disable such a device. Getting caught with a disabled kill system nets a federal prosecution.
@@stefan0ro, that's what it's coming to it seems. They want absolute control over the people, & they are going to try everything that they can to accomplish their goal.
Retired field geologist here, who lives in a rural area with many rough back roads. Thanks for the heads up I will be certain to have two new cars before these devices are installed!
Also government: sells guns to the cartels (operation fast and furious, yes they actually did this), drone strikes children in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
@@Frank451Martin moral of the story: they dont care about kids outside if using them as a political bludgeon to label anyone who questions them a monster. "YoU dOnT wAnT tO aBoLiSh 2A? yOu JuSt HaTe KiDs"
The best arguments against this are the simple problems that will arise for EVERYONE, like the simple need to swerve to avoid stuff. Everyone can see that. Even most normies I'd think.
Yeah, you swerve then your car says "obstacle detected on camera sixteen, no authorities contacted" then it pulls over and makes you sign a document saying you'll adhere to traffic laws before it let's you drive again. If you think this is a joke just come back here and read it again about once a year, it'll slowly become a prophecy.
I remember watching fast and furious 8 and seeing that scene where the villians hack hundreds of cars to stop some foreign diplomat and thinking that's pretty silly. At the rate in which things are going, that scene seems to be more and more plausible.
@@greenthunder1000 The word OP was looking for was "unlawful". Black letter law makes anything legal if you write it down. Natural/Common Law operate on principles, and the negative right, which is a right that is met by _not_ doing something, of privacy. The government has no need to know who you are, where you are, what you're doing, or have the ability to stop you at a whim. The government obeys the citizen, not the other way around. Until people take their local elected representative by the ear and twist it nice and hard, they will keep slyly passing whatever Schwabb tells them to.
I don't see the courts doing anything about this. This is clearly violation of the 4th amendment, but the Supreme Court has never actually cared about that.
Maybe in your world. You've been in the dark a long, long time if Alex Jones and other talk radio kind of guys were the only ones aware of what was happening. I mean, you're here now, so better late than never, right?
"In June of 2013, the FBI released a statement denying that Hastings was ever under investigation by the agency." "On September 24, 2013, the FBI released a 21 page report detailing their investigation and surveillance of Hastings after a lawsuit was filed against the department for ignoring the Freedom of Information Requests by Jason Leopold and Ryan Shapiro." Heh.
I think I'm gonna stick with my 2010 Ford Fusion for a while, but knowing government eventually it will become a mandatory install on all cars just like getting emissions checked.
I am 48 years old and for most of my life (since I have use of reason) I had dreamed of living with the level of freedom that was had in the United States and yet I have seen horrified how little by little they have been taking away their freedoms and rights in the name of a supposed security and truly I no longer want to go to live in the USA since what they have today is a cardboard democracy (a dictocracy)
We are NOT a democracy. We are a constitutional federal republic here in the US. Even though our politicians want us to forget that we the citizens hold power over them.
You are correct. As an American, I can confirm that our country is barely even functional at this point. We can't go on like this. Something is going to snap soon, for better or for worse.
I feel like the new challenge will be to find ways to bypass this without having it call home. Basically make it so the Librarian can't shush what she can't see. Also, while terrifying, how chaotically hilarious would it be if these could be hacked via Bluetooth? 😂 Part of me would not be surprised.
@@KeinNiemand Not for lack of trying. It's hard to keep track of how many times the world almost ended with nukes. Systems used to automatically detect the launch of nukes have periodically failed. The most famous example was on September 26, 1983, in which the Soviets detected multiple nukes coming from the United States. Standard procedure was to retaliate, but "Stanislav Petrov" decided not to. He wasn't rewarded for his act. On the contrary he was interrogated on suspicion of treason. It's widely accepted that if he wasn't on duty the nukes would have gone off since most soldiers are trained to follow the orders given to them by the automated system. That situation wasn't unique either. It happened before with a submarine and it happened in the 90's. This is exactly why it's a bad idea to fully rely on automatic systems to make choices. If we trusted the automatic systems to decide if nukes should be launched none of us would be alive. Automatic detection systems have never and will never be perfect. They will always fail which will require humans to make choices. Speaking of human's making choices: On the American side the US Military disregarded presidential orders for many years and set the nuclear long codes to a string of all zeroes. While this is no longer the case due to all the publicity surrounding that mess, the situation was even worse when you consider that the military had public tours of these facilities while this was the policy and they had written on paper near the launch devices reminders of what the launch codes were. Any child on a tour could have launched a nuke. It was really that easy. Then there are all the times we lost nukes. It's unclear exactly how many were lost over the years. Officially there have been "at least 32" of what the US Government call "Broken Arrow Incidents" which is code word for "We lost another nuke or something worse!". Most were recovered, such as the time America decided to leave an entire nuke sitting on an airport runway without anyone guarding it for an entire day far enough from the terminals that literally anyone could have hopped a fence and set it off before anyone noticed. At present, however, multiple nukes are currently missing. We just have no idea where they are. 3 of those nukes disappeared without any logs to show where they could be. Just there one day and gone the next. One fell in the Alboran Sea on January 17th, 1966 which was never found. On April 8th 1970 a nuclear submarine sank which had 4 nukes onboard In 1968 a soviet sub sank near Hawaii, but the 3 nukes on board were never recovered even though the United States put considerably effot into trying to find it. There's really no way of knowing exactly how many nukes are hiding on the bottom of the sea or when they will randomly go off on their own. Even on the American mainland some nukes remain missing. In 1958 a Nukes went missing in Georgia. 1998 a pair of retired military officers worked together for years to try to find it, but never succeeded. To this day it remains - somewhere - waiting to just randomly go off. Why any American would willingly live in an area where a nuke could just randomly go off at any time is beyond me. Anyone, the point is, humanity has very clearly be trying to annihilate itself with nukes. Either by misplacing the nukes or relying on a detection system which would give humans an excuse to launch them. It's just really weird luck that any of us are still alive to talk about it.
In 2012 the implementation of OBD3 requirements already put this capability in vehicles 2012 to present... All it takes is a breathalyzer testing interface module in a OBD3 equipped vehicle.
This channel is basically one of the few places where people from the “Wild West” internet can hang out without any normies shitting up the discussion. It’s nice.
My time spent in auto shops, driving certain 2016 + Subarus have sensors that will auto apply brakes when an object (garage door) is detected. When driving them, I would joke "if I want to crash into something, let me crash into it!" At the time, not even considering the implications with this current noise...
So apparently Teslas actually letting you run into something is a good thing lol (I saw someone that didn't like that it didn't auto-apply brakes. He got a talking to by several people though)
Yep. Warning sensors are fine. But they all need a manual override. If you want to beep at me when i get near an obstacle go ahead. But if i want to slam against it at full power that's for me to decide
@@tfwmemedumpster well then I don't think Tesla will satisfy you (I think they are least limit forward acceleration when it detects a vehicle in front of you. It will let you drive into it but just not at full power lol)
one can only hope that there are safety interlocks to prevent the kill switch from engaging while the car is in motion, only allow it to activate when the car has come to a stop... like at a stop sign/light
@@electronix6898 How would they know? Besides, a more logical bypass for the kill switch would be to just drive an older car that doesn't have the kill switch.
@@electronix6898 the car should be able to run with it damaged, I would assume and hope. Theirfore you could "damage" the connection and run without it
This reminds me of those low-range RF EMPs some law enforcement have used in the past for their vehicles. But this is something else entirely, and scary...
The power electronics for chargers, BMS boards and motor inverters are fairly well documented by the companies who sell the semiconductors to the car industry. A well-educated electrical engineer could probably build an open-source replacement for them. The EPA has no power here, because obviously a hacked electric car is still going to pass emissions.
EV is much, much less complex than an ICE, at least for an electrician. Could zombify a regular car into an EV or remake an EV to remove all the "smart" junk. It's gonna pass emissions, but I'm 100% sure they will also connect a diagnostic tool to check if the "smart" bloatware is also working and properly spying on you. Could be defeated by having a dummy version though... But then they will check your license plate and see that no data is coming from your vehicle. Would need to also fake that data.... And then they introduce massive fines for people doing it or make it a crime. So yea, future isn't looking bright.
@@Mic_Glow Maybe have the original software installed and swappable by a debloated version on demand? This way you can bypass the checks and then revert to your own version once approved?
@@Mic_Glow no you got it wrong. An EV is much MUCH more complex for an electrician than an ICE car. ICE cars have more mechanical parts and less electronics, while EVs have MANY more and complex electronics but less mechanical parts
I would imagine its not an immediate cutoff, but rather activates some routine that automatically pulls over and stops the car. Which sounds better, until you imagine a predator following someone in the middle of the night and stopping their car on a country back road, or a software error that will drive your car off a bridge because you jerked the wheel to miss a raccoon
This policy (at least the alcohol sensor) sounds like something that dies when you try to apply it. Almost 10 years ago now all parties in my country decides there should be mandatory alcholocks in all new cars but that silently died when you realise that in practice it doesn't work. But you know, it's the US, who cares if it doesn't work, who needs reason?
The USA federal government has become a drunk chimpanzee holding a machine gun. It's illegitimate, it's hostile to the citizens, it's out of control and gone rogue
I bet they are worse than that. My guess is that it will be some type of passive sensor that will detect alcohol in exhaled breath without actively breathing into it. That means that if you have anyone in the vehicle with you and they were drinking, it'll be picked up and the vehicle stops. So much for being DD or going to pick up someone after a party. It's nuts. All for greater central control.
Wow, who could've seen this coming? I sure do hope society stays intact in the coming years, I really love how bright and colourful the future is looking
Another law that benefits the big sellers and makes it harder for opposition to show up, of course also gives the government more power/info. And excuse it by saying “it’s so big daddy government can keep you safe. We can’t trust you, you might make a accident.”
This is crappy but it also hardens my position that I will never buy a new car. Also, I think I need to use my skills as a diesel technician and get creative with automotive electronics, software and firmware.
@bodd boward That’s the unfortunate truth too. They were definitely thinking ahead. It’s only a matter of time before people think less and just do. Everything that’s gonna be implanted and planned in the future is gonna work too which is sad
I've already seen the future of that. I drove some of the new Mercedes and BMW models with full electronics and, particularly on BMW, I never felt that I had a full control of the vehicle. The car taking the wheel from me, because I was extra careful not to spook a cyclist on a one lane road or not to come too close to a dig out where they didn't care to put yellow markings over... The number of those situations was too damn high. And I'm just laughing about the alcohol meters disabling the engine start. We've had those battery-powered fans in primary school, they were all the rage. Costed like one euro. Not long before the chronic alcoholics start driving with those in the glove compartment.
It's pretty simple, they have to remote in to flip that switch. Remove the cell device. Aka OnStar or other remote system. It's usually a separate pcb in the dash and is not needed from the rest of the components to control the car.
What if your buying a self-driving car, and its part of the compiled program itself. Your litterally fucked basically. Imagine being a journalist and making the Saudis mad, and having your own car drive you off a cliff like that.
What if the car requires a heartbeat to a licensing server to start the car? If you disconnect the comms module, it wouldn't start. Or if they just solder the comms hardware directly to the main board
@@zoppp621 thankfully a system like that is unrealistic, too many places in the US where there is no cell service. Can't have a car that refuses to start because you live in the middle of nowhere.
The automatic drunk detection sounds good unless someone is driving injured to hospital and the car thinks they are drunk. The best thing could just be breathalisers
*driving on the highway at 55-65mph:* _Happy._ *car suddenly turns off and tries to slam breaks automatically because you swerved slightly too much:* _Panic._
@Not Convinced What safety? I'm dead in the middle of the road and thousands of others with me. Soon my home city is practically a ghost town because half its population got killed on the highway that day due to my car being kill-switched like Thanos snapping the Infinity Gauntlet.
This also leads me to believe they will have a camera watching you drive, that they can monitor. This means they'll know if you're a political dissenter. They have eyes and ears on you in "your own car". I put that part in quotes because I don't believe we own our own stuff anymore. We're just merely given the privilege to pay for and use it. They can take it away at any time.
@@Jake-xe1wu Well yes we all already know that, but obviously this spying apparatus is built into cars too. Otherwise how would the car know what your conscious state is. I'm still driving an old used car from the 2000s. Never buying anything new until we find a way to change this.
also think about how it is essentially impossible to work on a modern car and do basic repairs without paying some technician with million dollar equipment. we do not own our things because we cannot fix them ourselves.
Your off road statement really hits home. My last job was installing security systems and well in that job you take your vehicle off road sometimes as a necessity to do the job. I also ran into a lot of other contractors that had to do the same for their job, often times powering tools off an inverter built into the vehicle or moving materials that are not practical to carry or transport otherwise to the spot they are being used.
They want my '04 into a dealership really bad. I have gotten so many notices of this "free" recall to fix a "dangerous" issue with the key possibly falling out while driving. My '07 had a recall to fix the brake lights from failing. I didn't take it in and sure enough, the brake lights stopped working. I called the dealership to be informed the recall had lapsed and I needed to pay to fix it. The key in my '04 is fine but they keep sending emails and snail mail postcards for me to take it in. Smells like fish to me.
bro if some Log4j shit was known earlier, it would be funny as shit seeing all that infrastructure shut down, cus of the shit these dumb bureaucrats pull.
If the cars require a heartbeat signal from a server to operate even a noob hacker could shut things down with enough bandwidth just by DDOS the servers.
They'll drive them off the road with insurance cost before the resale values spike. It will be like Japan where they just make it too expensive or a hassle to run anything older that 10 years
Well Mr. Ghost, you must not have been following the science which has said this is only a one in a century occurrence. So although possible it's fearmongering and conveniently allows you to disagree with all of their rules which will lead to more deaths, you murderer!
Remember : 1 meter of water higher every 300 years. Replacing cars with electric cars was never about the environnement. It was about economy and control
Man, I created a whole Cyberpunk universe based on this very idea years ago with the advent of electric cars and WiFi. We truly live in the worst timeline.
I had a dream a while back went something like this.. I needed to make some repairs in my lawn mower and after that I needed to call an agency who was remotely monitoring lawn mower to make sure it was within spec before it was allowed to be turned on again.
if the security of the federal servers that handle the kill switches is as good as their websites we're all doomed
@Aureus tf
Imagine one person hitting a kill switch for millions of cars at once…
@@gombu_ oh no
what happened on the website?
@@Konkov It continuously gets hacked and data stolen.
It's always the most heinous legislation that gets passed under the guise of "safety".
Say it with me: "Think of the children"
It's all an extension of the damn patriot act
I hope the USA won't shove this shit ass law into the European Union's throat
@@iDontProgramInCpp If US implemented this law successfully Europe and other regions will catch up eventually, it's just a matter of time. Everyone *loves* safety
@@Mutantcy1992 for the children!
"Patriot Act".... "We are here to protect you"....
Unpopular and inconvenient truth: there were CIA wikileaks in 2017 I believe, that talked about how the future of assassinations would be to remotely connect to cars and have their tech run themselves off the road, so hearing this is totally unsurprising.
Edit: lmfao you literally cover it a little bit in the vid, noice.
Can u post? Holy shit this is news to me
iRobot predicted this.
They have been remote controlling cars and planes for decades
It is an act of discipline to watch the whole vid before commenting. Think of it like waiting your turn to speak.
@@ItsMeeJon Not regular gas cars.
Edit: More modern cars apparently use electronics to control the steering column, along with other components so nvm.
It always starts with "It's for your protection" and it never ends that way.
Only in America will you find people opposed to measures to limit drunk drivers. The government will not stop your car if you aren't doing something illegal. You're opposing a bill that will save thousands of innocent lives in the future, one that may be used by law enforcement to end dangerous high-speed chases, and get criminals off our streets.
@@Genshinlmpact obviously you didn't watch the video that already counters this statement.
But who knows, you might be a wannabe bureaucrat who wishes to be a position of power to use and abuse a law like this.
Centralization does not increase protection, it actually increases vulnerabilities. Especially when the heavily centralized system ignores actual legit threats; especially those outside: coughChinacough.
@@Genshinlmpact are you nuts……? Just how many women have been raped by cops? I’ll tell in the last nine years there have been more than 400 women raped! See this according to CNN: police officers in the US were charged with forcible rape 405 times between 2005 and 2013. That’s an average of 45 a year. Forcible fondling was more common, with 636 instances. Still think giving cop an attack weapon!
Think about it this way. Your daughter is leaving from work late one night and a cop see her pull of work…….. he follows her and then killing her car and he then rescues her and never tell her he’s the who killed her car! So do you still want to give them another tool to attack us?
@@Genshinlmpact Jew
@@pimenjoyer.221 lol no elites or people making 40,000 a year or above 40,000 dollars a year. It's a struggle to even make 30,000 a year.
I remember when they deemed liquor stores essential business during the pandemic in my area. Now they use drunk driving as a reason to enforce more authoritarian policies. Classic.
To be fair, if you are genuinely alcoholic, a liquor store is as important as a pharmacy to a diabetic. Stopping cold turkey can kill you
@@LaneVermilion even if it doesn’t kill, it’s still unnecessary suffering
@@LaneVermilion ironic because if you're an alcoholic then you are sneaking anything with it, listerine, vanilla extract, cold meds etc
@@lolwtnick4362 That's absolutely not true. You'd be shocked how many highly successful people are alcoholics. Chances are at least one skilled professional you know and rely on in your own life is an alcoholic and you don't even know it. Could be your GP, your lawyer, CPA... not all alcoholics are obvious bums
@@willcresson8776 This is a part of alcoholism that people aren't aware of. Lots of personality disorders go hand in hand with "functional alcoholism".
I love how bureaucrats live in a fantasy world of their own. They don't really care how something is going to work, or if it can work. They are totally disconnected from reality, acting like goddamn children.
They don't serve the people, they pretend to
Oh don't worry about it, my driver knows what he is doing, god forbid i had to drive a car myself instead of being in the back sipping on the finest cognac.
They are often completely disconnected from reality they use the term for the children to pull at your heart strings and cloud your judgement when what they're trying to push is a bigger threat to any children you have then what they're claiming to protect them from.
This would actually make them less safe as the government will abuse it and hacker will exploit it and they'll be subject to the whims of foreign groups.
For example they become an advocate for workers rights at Amazon so they pay the local police department to shut off the car while it's on an off ramp or They speak up about China's treatment of Uyghurs and Falun Gong or Israel's actions in Palestine and the MSS or Mossad is tasked with silencing them.
They won't even have to get their hands dirty like when they killed Gerald Bull just find their target's accounts with that vehicle and exploit it.
No, it'll work just fine.
That's the fucking problem.
@Not Convinced No we won't. They will be replaced by control freak zoomers
Sounds like a great way to track cars if there is a remote kill switch.
That's the point
And further persecute anyone they take issue with.
We're getting close to 2030
@@frankfalkenburry5373 by the government maybe (which is bad enough), but if done poorly this can lead to members of the public being better able to track or stalk other people. Especially when you consider the way each manufacturer might do it could be different with varying levels of security.
@@frankfalkenburry5373 when you use any computer your being tracked whether that be by a corporation or government
I could honestly see this causing more crashes than they prevent.
Just needs one hacker to basically create anarchy.
Malware being targeted towards the kill switch is also to be expected, like a logic bomb that triggers it by a set timer/date.
It's funny to me that ppl can only see the issue with hacking, what about basic malfunctioning!?
By design
@@xxportalxx. Yeah, I can imagine someone simply getting distracted by looking at something or hearing something in the radio and fumbling for a second to hold the gear stick being considered drunk and shutting the vehicle off. "But the technology identified he couldn't hold the gear stick so he had to be impaired!"
My mother asked me why I was paranoid about technology in cars. I gave her an admittedly paranoid example that her car is technically openly receiving information from outside the car and that is not outside the realm of possibility that some asshat could go watchdogs on her car and do malicious things with it. (I also said something about being able to run incase a solar flare fucks all of us over too. :P)
That being said, that was one of many times I wish I was wrong. I don't fear technology because I don't understand it. I fear it because I understand it enough to know what kind of horseshit it can do to fuck us, yet not enough to easily outwit it short of avoid or at least limit using it.
Similar here.
"Y u fear tech"
I don't fear tech, I fear what all you idiots will allow it to be used for, just as an excuse for more 'additional functions'(distractions) and 'safety'(blockades). I can operate and somewhat modify each piece of stuff I own, from shoes and leather jackets, to the car, computers and their peripherals. It is people like you, who think tech should be easy to operate, that cost us a great deal. Cause you will never repair your equipment or use it past its warranty, cause you're a consumer, while we are customers. We buy shit and take care of it until it is reduced to a irreparable pile of its elements, you throw an entire 10000$ computer away cause one capacitor was blown.
Most cars will survive a solar flare just fine. It's the grid that will explode.
@@smugmode Dont forget about those teslas hooked up on chargers
My philosophy on technology is that it should be the safest and most effective low-tech solution for it's needs. Or in other words, I know that spaceships need high-tech equipment but my toaster does not need WiFi.
Even cars that are electronically advanced/reliant will probably survive fine because they're protected well by metal. Maybe not if it was like carbon fiber or something though.
My first car was a 1991 Ford Probe. It looked pretty good for a teenager’s first car back in the late 90s, and I got it for only ~$3,000 used. However, driving it ended up being a complete nightmare due to a so-called “Safety feature.” When the car sustained a big enough bump, the entire car would *SHUT OFF* and the only way to get it to start again was to exit the vehicle, pop the trunk, lift a panel near the left wheel well and flip a hidden switch. To make things worse, the suspension impact required to make this trigger was very small. I’m talking one big pothole or taking a speed bump a little too fast could easily do it.
Despite this, the car seemed great when I first started using it in rural, but generally well-paved North Carolina. However, a few months later, I started encountering MAJOR and recurrent problems with the safety feature after moving to a pothole-infested city called Worcester, Massachusetts. I spent a lot of time there in horrendous winter driving conditions while delivering pizza to pay the bills, and I started triggering this terrible feature roughly every other week.
This “feature” was as bizarre and unheard of then as it is now so I was totally unaware it existed. The first half dozen or so times it happened I think I had AAA jump the battery, and that caused it to override the need for the switch being toggled back. Eventually, I had enough and had AAA tow it to an unscrupulous mechanic who I believe knowingly repaired something else that didn’t need to be repaired so he could charge me $500.
Of course, the issue continued to happen, and finally, I got a knowledgeable AAA guy who knew about the feature, explained it to me, and showed me where to find the quite hidden switch to get the car running again by myself. It was quite relieving to finally understand what was happening, but don’t worry, this story isn’t without a climax.
This feature continued to be incredibly annoying, but I was usually moving very slow on some crappy back street when it happened so it was easy to safely coast to the side of the road after the car turned off suddenly. However, the final time it happened was at highway speeds approaching a tunnel connecting New York City with New Jersey. All lanes packed with traffic going 60-75 mph, nowhere to pull over whatsoever and my f’ing car is shutting off again. It was extremely unexpected, as it was a very small pothole I had traveled over and it hadn't occurred on a highway before.
I’m with my best friend and his girlfriend. I manage to safely bring the vehicle to a stop in the far right lane without getting rear-ended right near the beginning of the tunnel. I expediently jump out and toggle the switch in the trunk, but when I get back in the car it won’t start this time.
I have my friends get out of the vehicle for their safety and begin signaling for someone to call for help, looking at passing traffic holding my hand next to my face pretending it was a phone. Cell phones were fairly new back then and most people still didn’t have one, but it worked. Maybe 25 minutes of watching 70 mph cars wiz by inches from my vulnerable car and friends later, a tow truck arrived. There was no way to back out, and it was also impossible to get hitched up by the tow truck due to the amount of traffic and lack of space…so he used his truck to push my car from behind while I steered it in neutral, ALL the way through the tunnel. On the other side, he pushed me to a side street where he was able to set up to tow me properly. The tow truck brought me to a nearby auto repair shop in Teaneck, New Jersey. The next day when they opened, the shop took a look and let me know that basically my car was totaled.
When I had been trapped in the tunnel, I had tried to get my car at least halfway out of the lane to minimize impact to passing traffic (and minimize the chance of it being hit). While the car was still rolling and coming to a stop I shimmied the right two tires up onto a small curb bordering the tunnel’s sidewall. Apparently, when I did this I managed to damage the transmission to the point that it had to be replaced entirely, and the cost of that repair slightly exceeded the remaining total value of the car.
So yeah, let’s install a similar "safety feature" on every car starting in 2026, but instead of putting the button inside the car for the driver to reset, we’ll just give all the power to stop and start vehicles to law enforcement. Officers of the law are safe, always correct individuals, so they can stop vehicles whenever they want. We will all be happy and safe. SAFE & HAPPY!!!!!
That is terrifying; I’m so glad you were all okay ;0;
@@peanut3438 it really was! And thank you 🙏
Going into a tunnel with a car like that and people you love was crazy. I'm relieved anything happened but geez. I'm scared of what will happen in the future with features like that
Its interesting that they hate cops yet want them to have the power to detonate a small explosive device in your engine.
Thanks for sharing. Elon Musk was demoing a one lane wide, nearly car width "express" underground car tunnel to beat the issue of traffic. Imagine having your vehicle disabled when you're in one of those tubes of the future with cars following 40 to 60 mph behind you?
The concept of: "Oh, we will add this feature to prevent this one thing", but it can be used for many other things, for them to have more power over you.
yup
THINK OF THE CHIIIIIIIIILDREN
@@pokpok97642 I can hear Louis Rossman saying that.
even if we had a time machine so we can be sure it would ever only be used to stop drunk drivers, its still an overreach that they dont have a right to. The government doesnt own you. If your neighbor was like "hey Bill, Im gonna install this device that lets me turn off your car when I feel you are too drunk", you would be like "fuck off". The government is Bill, except that unlike your neighbor Bill, the government only has itself as an interest, and it has a far greater potential for abuse than Bill does.
Its always been that way. And the rebutted usually is "oh so you don't wanna stop XYZ?"
Its not just mandatory kill switches, they will have AI monitoring your emotional and mental state to see if you are irritated, or angry, or tired, etc. so your car will essentially be watching your every movement while operating it. the most horrific and disgusting violation of privacy I could think of.
Don't buy those cars and remove the software or system
just get any car made before the law was passed, or if you have the mechanical and technical skills just remove that stuff.
Apparently the right of privacy may soon be nonexistent. (Of course it’s not in the constitution already, the precedents were set up by court decisions and it appears the court may be overturning them)
There may come a day where people may be forced to have microchips implanted, have AI monitoring in their homes and cars, voting rights will be taken away, and so on.
WE CAN STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING IF WE ACT NOW
@@boiii3productions945 oof
@@maclura to clarify privacy was never mentioned in the constitution and the concept arose from supreme court decisions. Now it appears the high court may overturn these decisions based on events happening right now
Cannot wait for two things:
1) Someone figures out how to engage the kill switch using third-party tools
2) Some people use it to commit criminal acts against citizens.
You can't escape if your car breaks!
Even worse, they make it into a subscription service/additional fee. You have to call a manufacturer-certified technician to unlock your car and pay them to open it up if you're stuck inside.
@@gamrknight8060 Learn FPGAs, microcontrollers and CAN bus. Then you'll know how to spoof or override this crap.
Breaks or brakes?
Welp, found my new hobby for 2023-24
People will be interested in bypassing the alcohol lock for sure, but thats three years off, who knows how cucked the general publixc will be by then, look at what happened with C-vid and the injection..
It's so frustrating that the government has become more and more authoritarian. From KYC for crypto to backdoors in pretty much every electronic device. It's like the Minority Report but worse.
all the while touting progressivism
Remember that scene from Fate of the Furious? It's concerning that scene is now looking more and more close to reality by the day.
@@liamp6491 Progressivism these days just means they want more minorities doing the oppressing
Follow the money. Always.
Good thing I purchased a classic car that gets 8 miles to the gallon and tells the Government to fuck itself lmao.
I feel like we are living in a horror film.
We are living in a reality where people's main method of getting around can be stopped with the press of a button. Insane.
Imagine that, your cars disabled. Cuckerburg is on your windscreen he states, driver metaverse inhabitant. You hearby will be summoned, to conduct hard labour for the algorithm. Your social score is currently inactive. The use of ammenities is granted Upon approval.
FEDcoin coming to control your wallets too.
@@JohnDoe-jk3vv american cities are mostly built for cars
@@nillynush4899 ohhh would you look at that, hmm yeah. Nothing to see here. Please transfer fed coin to vehicle, to reach desired destination. Instead of paying gas you pay eth gas prices.
Solution: Actually two. Refuse to buy a new car. keep your old one going! Let the automakers go bankrupt. THey will demand a repeal of this law in no time.
Or hack your car.
I really hope more people learn about this, because this is the sort of thing that would absolutely kill the sales of new cars once people actually know about it, and you know the companies would immediately start pouring money through lobbyists to get rid of this if it meant no one was buying their hilariously overpriced new stock.
I won't be buying a new car ever and if they try to force me I would claim in to poor what else am I suppose to do, which I am and then if everyone did it we will have change.
Or they're told to hush up about it to customers...
Trading Freedom For Security ; And Gaining Neither
100% correct
-Benjamin Franklin
also a gift for auto manufacturers, the planned obsolescence/subscription applications are obvious. i wonder how much of the populace will be too impoverished to afford motor vehicles by 2026, though
Make em so expensive only corporations can afford them and the insurance
This is exactly why these things exist Im sure, almost every single suspicious/fucked up practice involved with any product these days almost ALWAYS comes down to the company trying to force you to buy more
To buy? Yes, they'll do that on purpose. They'll force you to rent them and make it DRM'd to hell.
Imagine this situation:
You were involved in an accident and got hurt real bad, no time to wait for an ambulance. You get in your car and start driving like a maniac to get help.
"this guy has to be drunk" says your car, and off goes the engine and any hope of you surviving.
Don't let this happen to you... Pay me to disable it.
Drive like a maniac all the time, so computer thinks nothing has changed.
Jesus, I've heard too many a story of exactly that.
Bonus points for ambulance shortage in the middle of any future pandemic :P
Or your girlfriend is pregnant and about to give birth and you drive the car to the hospital and her dad finds out you are the father
If you're hurt to the point of not surviving the wait for an ambulance, you're in no condition to drive.
I prefer one DoA over a dude leaving a trail of destruction and potential injuries/fatalities behind because he tried to rush himself to a hospital while in shock.
Am I crazy? I distinctly remember them discussing trying to pass a bill about the “kill switch” but I remember it being in the name of “saving the environment”. Something about if someone drives to much or refuses to pay the carbon tax they can just kill the car. When did this become a counter DUI thing?
It wouldn't pass so they changed it to be for DUI situations, that doesn't mean they won't use it for what you proposed.
They make it up as they go along. The end game is more control.
DUI makes it more palatable 🤬
Morrison Ghost, buy using the drunk driving excuse they can so called justify it in the name of safety. But in reality, it's just another way for the government to control you. More bullshit government overreach.
@@samspade1841
Manufacturing consent
Everybody start treating your cars nicely, we're gonna need to recycle and keep these going for as long as possible
I already treat my 08 like my baby, but suddenly my desire to keep her forever has doubled.
@@tangentfox4677 best get a contact who can get you gas, they'll just close gas pumps and force everyone to have electric
Just walk nerd.
@@eliaspanayi3465 prolly best to get a diesel then and switch it to biofuel
78 Buick myself 💪
what about the way you drive when your wife’s water has broken, or your child’s life is in danger? driving during evacuation, a wildfire? avalanche?
The thing is. The government doesn't care. We are slaves, we don't make demands, this isn't a relationship it's a dictatorship.
do you honestly think they care
Our inconvenience is of no concern to their robbing and looting of taxpayers by inventing problems based on hysteria.
Fuck snow driving 🤣🤣🤣😅 it would see me sliding constantly and cut it
@@123100ozzy stay loud BB 💪
The movie "Upgrade" has a universe with many cars with similar functionality, and there's a really great scene where there's a car chase, both people don't have electronic cars and are unable to be stopped. But one of them just hacks the car in front of them to drive backwards, crashing into the chaser.
neat
Great movie, definitely a recommendation from me.
When having older technology is a super power
Yeah and doesn't the protagonist and his wife get control-driven into the evil lair where they are murdered at the beginning?
Great movie, scarily ahead of its time.
@@JamesStakerWin Ahead of it's time? It's only 4 and a half years old.
Imagine you're just driving to a store, peacefully, not breaking any laws, even staying within the speed limit, and then your engine randomly stops and you crash into a random building killing 3 innocent pedestrians and dying, just because some federal agent pressed 5 instead of S and typed in your license plate into the killswitch
Who would be liable for that? Pretty hard to prove afterwards.
Imagine stopping in the left lane on the highway. In Germany this would be absolutely fatal as you’d be hit by cars regularly going up to 230 km/h from behind.
Just an addition, killing your engine does not cut your steering or brakes, so that probably would not happen. I do see what you mean though, pretty dangerous, especially if it automatically smashes the brakes on the highway or icy roads.
It's not as far fetched as it might seem. I got toll violation tickets for three years straight because the traffic cameras couldn't identify somebody else's car.
I had the toll company in my contacts, and would just patiently tell them to look at the photos again. They'd cancel the fine, and I'd wait for the next letter! XD
The business of second-hand cars starts booming once this legislation comes into effect.
Yeah, 2025 cars will be sold and re-sold for a long long time
Either that or a business of ripping this tech out
@@andrewgreeb916 on 2007-2016 era cars a lot of people have been able to make a massive profit off of removing electronic speed monitors and such but nowadays it’s becoming harder and harder to do that with the complication of how overengineered modern cars are. Hopefully that isn’t the case for this
Nah, people still call me explaining that Facebook spies on you ad a conspiracy theory. Most either won't know about this, won't believe in this, or won't care.
@@Woozie894 Man it's wild, eh? This is exactly why I refuse to buy fully electric vehicles. The fact that some random person has access to and API where they can tick a box and render my vehicle inoperable does not sit well with me.
i used to say to my friends about the future "imagine getting in your car and it wont go where you want. imagine your car wont take you to the food you want bc its unhealthy, or you drive too fast, or the area is deemed "unsafe" . i have seen this coming for ages. this will be HUUUUGE for law enforcement. huuuuuge for fees, penalties...and i think it will go further. and we're too busy arguing amongst ourselves to stop it. dream scenario for politicians, theyve got us right where they want us. we do nothing
ikr bro, do you have any plans to stop this?
@@rabbitdrink 2nd amendment isn't written for nothing ya know
I mean, this is legal, at that point, I don't get why they wouldn't just ban the food
@@rabbitdrink Just don't use those cars? Or don't be in US?
@@zabunko theyre putting them on all new cars though. eventually the old glowless cars will die out, either because theyre slow or they crashed or broke down. do you see people still driving around in cars from the 70s very often?
we need a way to disable the technology on new cars. driving old cars is not good enough.
another way to put it, are you typing this on a machine with an intel chip from before 2006 to escape from intel me? i doubt it. those things are painfully slow, too slow for youtube.
imagine how the government will abuse this for lockdowns, quarantines, and curfews. They can target entire populations with this, not just individuals.
Exactly what I was thinking. Imagine if state governments or even the feds wanted to do a national lockdown due to a pandemic or some other "emergency."
Way I see it? It's that these people might actually belive that this will help with what they are saying, and are not using it for those purposes really. The way I see most politicians is they are idiots that try to solve any problems the most ass backwards way possible so it can look good on the resume. After all, it's easier to sell a tech solution for things like drunk driving rather than say oh i don't know, GET US TO NOT USE FUCKING CARS
not everyone. only people rich enough to get a 2026 or newer, which will be insanely expensive if the current market is any indication. Now in the next 25 years we might have problems.
@@rosemarsili9159 well they could already enforce lockdowns through conventional means (martial law) if they really wanted to
@@smegleymunroe863 technically, yes. But it would look really bad in terms of optics.
Reminds me of all the mysterious 'accidents' where people unexplicably decide to drive 120mph into walls or houses. Weirdly, it seems to be only newer cars. And that is excluding all of the CIintons' former 'friends'
It's one hell of a time-sink, to find snippets around the web. All hail OSIS
That's due to improper installations of automobile floor mats. You push the accelerator a little too low, and it gets stuck under the mat. Some failures in the braking system prevent it from re-braking (at least in some old versions of Hyundai cars) if the brake pedal has been pressed down and then lifted (happens when people uncontrollably start speeding, they rapidly push the brake pedal down, and by mistake lift their foot off of it.).
Had there been more legislation in place to regulate low quality floor mats, or compatibility checks for certain vehicles, these tragedies would not have occurred.
@@Genshinlmpact i know where you're coming from, but Im not talking about the Prius-saga or anything like that, im talking instances like the recent "Anne Heche"
Brand new Mini Cooper. She crashed at an estimated 120 i believe. And the toxicology report came back - She was sober, no drugs no alcohol
@@Genshinlmpact On a different note bro, what is up with your channel. 95 subs 47 views. And "test" 1 month ago.
Have you bought or inherited that channel?
@@mchackster805 i privated the old videos from 2014-2018 because they were cringe roblox videos
@@Genshinlmpact haha i see, no sweat my guy.
I should delete mine too, but at least it's not Roblox, no offense
I remember there was a couple that bought an electric car second hand and it was remotely deactivated because the first owner missed a payment.
Open source cars when
@@tux_the_astronaut when IP is abolished.
WTF what brand was it so that I can avoid it
What brand? I'm going to assume Tesla because they're the most likely company to actually do this
@@tux_the_astronaut tesla is open source
We really are moving more and more towards a dystopian sci-fi future every day.
Yeah, but it's not the "wearing black sunglasses on a trenchcoat while eating ramen noodles in Chinatown with my mechanical submachine gun arm" sci-fi future
@@AlyphRat yea because that version is at least interesting, ours is just as bad but boring
cyberpunk but it's all dystopian stuff and no cool stuff.
@@Ganerrr if it were made to be interesting someone might have the inspiration to actually stand up for themselves, and we can't have that.
Install Gentoo in your car
2030s tutorials be like:
"Hello! Here is how you root your microwave and install adblocker onto it."
With RUclips's censorship? Only if we start watching the dark web tutorials now
How to mine crypto on every oven in your district without the owners knowing
Imagine getting arrested for rooting your microwave
A better solution would be to buy an older microwave that's still working. That way, your microwave can't even show you any ads and you can't be hacked.
“To make the public safer, we’re going to switch off speeding vehicles in traffic.” 🥴
Not to be pedantic, but even removing the potential for it to be abused by law enforcement from the equation, it's a terrible idea. The bill doesn't explain how the technology is supposed to monitor driver behavior, or even crazier, how its supposed to detect your blood alcohol level. It leaves so much flexibility for carmakers to go overboard at the manufacturing level, or for the tech to malfunction, potentially stopping your car when you weren't doing anything wrong and killing you in an accident.
I guess all I'm saying is I give this proposal a 0/10, government gets no points for how insanely stupid this is.
The bill doesn't explain any of that because as usual, politicians are morons. They've simply told the auto industry to "figure it out". They don't care how. That's the kind of idiots we're dealing with. They don't need to be smart to be dystopian.
@C it'll be like one of those tests for the blood sugar levels. They'll puncture your skin to extract blood to monitor the bac after you've strapped the belt and turned the ignition.
it's not stupid... its exactly what they want
@@99temporal Which is still pretty stupid. They don't think ahead to how this may end up killing them. Just like all the evil dictators throughout history who were the same way, most of whom met a bad end. Not too bright.
The only way I see how they could measure it would be to monitor the alcohol in the air. But if you have two drunk people in the backseat that's obviously not going to work.
Luckily car tuner shops usually make custom tunes that can remove vehicle functions and disable them completely. They made one for 07-13 silverados that shuts off the cylinder deactivation feature. So luckily we’ll probably be able to remove these devices
Well shit, seems to be more difficult if it's deeply embedded into the software of your car
Either that or get an older car.
I think they also make devices that you can plug in the car to disable AFM so you don't grenade your engine. Chrysler/Dodge hemis also had issues related to cylinder deactivation, MDS as it's called in those vehicles.
@@andy-bandy Rip the computer out and use a paper map.
@@Durplepurple94572 We can't just buy old cars forever
This has a lot to do with mothers against drunk driving and general hysteria. We need to push back against this and get the law amended.
And made illegal in the future. You can't pass any such law, it's illegal to back door a vehicle.
@@enermaxstephens1051 Trouble is law makers will always find ways to break or change the laws in ways they see fit. Especially if it gives them more power.
Much more serious laws have passed and no one batted an eye, like the patriot act or the plandemic bull💩 we're facing now. Pushback won't do anything. Just hope the inevitable collapse of the USA and the subsequent renaissance is soon.
This law is good just this part is bad
This is not a MADD issue. It is a power play for the elites and the rich to put yet another boot on the throat of society.
Imagine if the us would just have a function public transit and walkable/ cycleable streets. Imagine how many people it would prevent from drunk driving. Where I live (the Netherlands) we hardly have any drunk drivers. If you want to go drinking you can just take the train or bike.
And you have how many square miles to do this magic? How many miles of roads? You may need to stay in you own lane.
Drunk driving is so bad!!! Let's disable cars in the middle of the street!!!!! -Government probably
there’s no way this could possible go wrong right?
Imagine that you are driving on the highway and suddenly while changing lanes the engine in your car shuts down.
The bill states nothing like this. It doesn't specify that it needs to be remote nor does it say that it should cut the engine in the middle of the road if it sees that you are driving strangely. Where is this idea coming from?
Haha yes let's let the AI find a place to park and lock the doors and make it inescapable so the police can arrive :]
Yes it doesn't need to be remote our officer will just walk up to the moving car and make it stop moving :]
It's just another tool to reinforce the "Do what we say or we'll take something important way from you". And don't you DARE think for one moment this will EVER be restricted to be used for only drunk driving. 10 to 1 one of the first additional uses will be to punish dads who get behind on child support.
Are you not financially supporting your children?
@@Terranallias18 My children are grown adults now and are off in the world, working and able to support themselves. Before that however, YES, I absolutely supported my children and actually OVER paid on support and never asked for any of it back. I still try to help support them now even though they fight me on it and tell me they don't need it.
@@Enjoymentboy That's good, it's just a really weird thing to bring up
@@Terranallias18 Well, I beyond being boring I am rather weird so I'm just being consistent.
To add on to that, from what I have seen myself, it's the actual state being the asshole that won't pay for child support and not parties involved. I've seen people get sent to court for failure to pay child support when they get remarried. It's fucking pathetic and really shows how much of a lazy pathetic slob most states are.
In few years:
>Government tries to halt car driven by the criminal
>Doesn't work because, you know, criminals doesn't give a damn about breaking the law and disabling it
It's almost like this will only affect the law abiding citizen. It's kinda like what they did with drugs and guns. Criminals still have both.
@@Razor-gx2dq drugs was pure racism
@@EliteSniperTV I'd say that's a fair assessment. The war on drugs was a failure
This criminals will have disabled it before they even used the car to commit a crime.
@@EliteSniperTV The war on drugs was about Nixon wanting to punish his political adversaries hippies and minorities.
I love these "Bills" are always filled with a hundred different legislations in one bill.
@@JohnnyRep-hz5qh Also, editing should be mandatory.
If you can fill a 50 page document with something that can be summarized in a few plainly written paragraphs, you're probably hiding something.
Yet another reason why not to trust self driving cars, or any new thing in general.
I never thought I would die fighting side by side with an Eevee profile pic.
@@sh1pme2themune9 That's not eevee lol
@@kantraa many new things are good
@@kantraa 2 eeveelutions
@@kantraa my money is on you being attracted to those creatures in your pfp
Wow unbelievable, and I was getting worried about gas engines becoming illegal.
At least gas engine becoming illegal would have some potently good benefits, but this has basically no good side effects
They’re inflating the fuel prices on purpose to try and force people to buy electric cars.
I’ve spoken to EV owners and their batteries degrade over time so I suspect even EVs will adopt some kind of subscription model in the future.
You ever notice how movies and TV promote conspiracy theories? They don't always come out and say the real ones because that would be too edgey but will give a different version to make people think about it without being offended. I remember that for a B rate action film about a terrorist attack that was going to be an inside job but gets stopped by the main characters who are civillians.
And as we all know the entertainment executives, directors, actors etc are friends with politicians.
X-men Days of Future Past: Magneto assassinated JFK
Men in Black: The entire premise of the series
Doctor Who: Half the cars in the world are outfitted with self driving functionality from a tech company which proceed to kill their passengers.
It seems like they're warning us about the future but I'm starting to wonder if they're giving the politicians and feds their best ideas for a dystopia.
@@deoxal7947 it's called predictive programming, look up the term and grab a stiff drink.
@@Bangy yeah that’s true. All batteries degrade over time just like with phones and laptops. It’s an unfortunate reality. Hopefully battery technology advances to where this isn’t an issue anymore.
The government is cringe and will always be cringe
and will become more cringe as time goes on.
Difference between criminal and cringe is very little . This law is very dangerous .
The Glory of Rome is forever
When the boomers die off and are no longer in office, gen x and millenials will take the place. We can only hope they're the freedom blend and not Avocado.
@@Acinelli assuming the 80-year old boomers don’t get replaced with 80-year old millennials, and someone actually remembers this before taking their Alzheimer’s pills
I think you should have included the actual process Volvo takes with their impairment detection technology. Volvo will first ask if you’re okay if it notices erratic driving. If you say you’re alright, it will continue to let you drive until it detects another reason to believe impairment and the car will actually pull itself over and contact law enforcement itself. That’s at least what I heard from the demos provided with in the past
Eff that. Never planned to buy a Volvo but they are 100% dead to me if they do that.
Man, I drive my cars like I stole 'em. I'd be in the county jail before the end of the week! XD
Turning off your car while you’re still driving sounds as dangerous as driving drunk to me. Glowies and their great ideas
What's a glowie?
@@johnded3874 Thanks for the reply. A reply which has turned into a rabbit hole.
No one said anything about turning off your car while driving, that is a false argument, there are plenty of proper arguments against this bad idea.
@@scottfreedoms9584 if you know you know
When the engines dies so does powered brakes and steering
They're already beginning to prevent us from opening bonnets/hoods of cars on electric vehicles, I wouldn't be surprised if that starts occuring with most newer cars.
They've already made them user maintenance unfriendly for years now.
Angle grinder and ratchet straps.
"Warranty void if opened. No user serviceable parts."
So later on, once we all start bypassing this device, it becomes a federal felony to remove or disable such a device. Getting caught with a disabled kill system nets a federal prosecution.
BluSpectre, they will probably have that law already in place even before the kill switch is mandatory.
@@carlwiltse3909 at this point, why not make it a felony to breathe........
Sheesh 😬 dang you're right
Don't buy a car with one in it. Simple really. Or do as I have....keep your old cars. No switches in them.
@@stefan0ro, that's what it's coming to it seems. They want absolute control over the people, & they are going to try everything that they can to accomplish their goal.
Retired field geologist here, who lives in a rural area with many rough back roads. Thanks for the heads up I will be certain to have two new cars before these devices are installed!
Imagine buying a car made after 2005
This.
They all look the same nowadays, are overloaded with unnecessary stuff and are lighter (to reduce fuel consumption).
my 78' volvo 240 will never die and has only a yard of wire in it.
My 1996 BMW E36 likes this comment. The modern glowie spyware on wheels can piss off
Its 1990 and before for me if something goes wron id rather it be mechanical than electrical.
Goverment" "Think about children!"
Also Govermnet: Presses kill switch for moving car while children are in.
No no we can't make good transit for everybody we have to get more car bullshit
Spoiler: kids get killed by cars all the time
Could of said severely underfunds schools and ignores child starvation and poverty.
Also government: sells guns to the cartels (operation fast and furious, yes they actually did this), drone strikes children in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Also government: neglect kids who are in poverty and implementing worse school policies that underfund, undermining their education.
@@Frank451Martin moral of the story: they dont care about kids outside if using them as a political bludgeon to label anyone who questions them a monster.
"YoU dOnT wAnT tO aBoLiSh 2A? yOu JuSt HaTe KiDs"
The best arguments against this are the simple problems that will arise for EVERYONE, like the simple need to swerve to avoid stuff. Everyone can see that. Even most normies I'd think.
Politicians don’t care about you stomping the brake to save a deer, two legs or four
Yeah, you swerve then your car says "obstacle detected on camera sixteen, no authorities contacted" then it pulls over and makes you sign a document saying you'll adhere to traffic laws before it let's you drive again. If you think this is a joke just come back here and read it again about once a year, it'll slowly become a prophecy.
Call it a patriotic bill or some shit and Americans will happily consent to having their rectal cavity remotely searched twice a day
@@omarb7164 they already search those at airports
Normies wouldn't give a hoot unless there's a dedicated propaganda campaign lol
we gonna have to start jailbreaking our cars now
Oh boy, more man made horrors beyond my comprehension!
Tesla wasn't kidding around nor being melodramatic, just accurately predicting the technocratic tyranny that now besets us.
I remember watching fast and furious 8 and seeing that scene where the villians hack hundreds of cars to stop some foreign diplomat and thinking that's pretty silly. At the rate in which things are going, that scene seems to be more and more plausible.
Predictive programming
It’s already possible just not easy
It's been plausible for awhile now, just not probable. With this it would become probable or even easy...
@@nightbloodrayna ruclips.net/video/AoB_mdZxNlY/видео.html
What do you mean? This was in the movie.
@@ablackbunny3149 Ya know what, I have watched thousands of movies in my lifetime, I totally forgot about that one. Sorry.
This is extremely illegal and unsafe. I can’t wait to see this challenged in court. I don’t believe this will hold up
It’s not illegal if the laws are changed
@@greenthunder1000 The word OP was looking for was "unlawful". Black letter law makes anything legal if you write it down. Natural/Common Law operate on principles, and the negative right, which is a right that is met by _not_ doing something, of privacy. The government has no need to know who you are, where you are, what you're doing, or have the ability to stop you at a whim. The government obeys the citizen, not the other way around. Until people take their local elected representative by the ear and twist it nice and hard, they will keep slyly passing whatever Schwabb tells them to.
I don't see the courts doing anything about this. This is clearly violation of the 4th amendment, but the Supreme Court has never actually cared about that.
Nobody is reading these bills
@@Amir_404 Nobody has the time or the patience to read a hundred page bill, probably put into the most unreadable format ever conceived
How to troll le government:
1. Read the manual to find where the silly device is
2. Remove the silly device
3. Become silly
Mechanics will find away to remove those devices and we will have an Apple situation where people won't have a right to repair their own car.
ever held a screwdriver in your hands darling?
@@newdimension4731 That only works until they start changing the screws like Apple did.
Tesla and high end mercedes already do this.
@Mialisus true, never underestimate weaponized autism
@@CopeAndSeeth hmm tasty white pills
remember when the only people who thought things like this would happen was alex jones
Correction. He KNEW it will happen.
That mf is half a psycho and half a prophet. Most prophets are like that, though.
Craziness and genius is a thin line
Maybe in your world. You've been in the dark a long, long time if Alex Jones and other talk radio kind of guys were the only ones aware of what was happening. I mean, you're here now, so better late than never, right?
"In June of 2013, the FBI released a statement denying that Hastings was ever under investigation by the agency."
"On September 24, 2013, the FBI released a 21 page report detailing their investigation and surveillance of Hastings after a lawsuit was filed against the department for ignoring the Freedom of Information Requests by Jason Leopold and Ryan Shapiro."
Heh.
I think I'm gonna stick with my 2010 Ford Fusion for a while, but knowing government eventually it will become a mandatory install on all cars just like getting emissions checked.
I am 48 years old and for most of my life (since I have use of reason) I had dreamed of living with the level of freedom that was had in the United States and yet I have seen horrified how little by little they have been taking away their freedoms and rights in the name of a supposed security and truly I no longer want to go to live in the USA since what they have today is a cardboard democracy (a dictocracy)
We are NOT a democracy. We are a constitutional federal republic here in the US. Even though our politicians want us to forget that we the citizens hold power over them.
Well at least you can say that the president is terrible at his job without being sent to a prison work camp
You are correct. As an American, I can confirm that our country is barely even functional at this point. We can't go on like this. Something is going to snap soon, for better or for worse.
I feel like the new challenge will be to find ways to bypass this without having it call home.
Basically make it so the Librarian can't shush what she can't see.
Also, while terrifying, how chaotically hilarious would it be if these could be hacked via Bluetooth? 😂
Part of me would not be surprised.
Place a faraday cage around the car?
when the watch_dogs event in real life
@@indeepjable I remember playing that game and thinking "no one would be stupid enough to make this possible".
Alas, I had forgotten the politicians
i will, personally, replicate the satellite mission at the end of the first one, just to show "hello yes smart city more like no power"
@@indeepjable I'll help if it comes to that lol
No no, you don't understand.
Humanity is doing a "any% bad ending Speedrun" and is committed to it.
This is just a standard strat
If it's any% why hav't they pressed the big red nuke button yet
Because they didn't invest enough points in tech for it to work correctly
@@KeinNiemand That one technically doesn't count as an ending, it's just a game over
@@KeinNiemand cuz they still need the poors to be slaves, stupid
@@KeinNiemand Not for lack of trying. It's hard to keep track of how many times the world almost ended with nukes.
Systems used to automatically detect the launch of nukes have periodically failed. The most famous example was on September 26, 1983, in which the Soviets detected multiple nukes coming from the United States. Standard procedure was to retaliate, but "Stanislav Petrov" decided not to. He wasn't rewarded for his act. On the contrary he was interrogated on suspicion of treason. It's widely accepted that if he wasn't on duty the nukes would have gone off since most soldiers are trained to follow the orders given to them by the automated system. That situation wasn't unique either. It happened before with a submarine and it happened in the 90's. This is exactly why it's a bad idea to fully rely on automatic systems to make choices. If we trusted the automatic systems to decide if nukes should be launched none of us would be alive. Automatic detection systems have never and will never be perfect. They will always fail which will require humans to make choices.
Speaking of human's making choices: On the American side the US Military disregarded presidential orders for many years and set the nuclear long codes to a string of all zeroes. While this is no longer the case due to all the publicity surrounding that mess, the situation was even worse when you consider that the military had public tours of these facilities while this was the policy and they had written on paper near the launch devices reminders of what the launch codes were. Any child on a tour could have launched a nuke. It was really that easy.
Then there are all the times we lost nukes. It's unclear exactly how many were lost over the years. Officially there have been "at least 32" of what the US Government call "Broken Arrow Incidents" which is code word for "We lost another nuke or something worse!". Most were recovered, such as the time America decided to leave an entire nuke sitting on an airport runway without anyone guarding it for an entire day far enough from the terminals that literally anyone could have hopped a fence and set it off before anyone noticed. At present, however, multiple nukes are currently missing. We just have no idea where they are. 3 of those nukes disappeared without any logs to show where they could be. Just there one day and gone the next. One fell in the Alboran Sea on January 17th, 1966 which was never found. On April 8th 1970 a nuclear submarine sank which had 4 nukes onboard In 1968 a soviet sub sank near Hawaii, but the 3 nukes on board were never recovered even though the United States put considerably effot into trying to find it. There's really no way of knowing exactly how many nukes are hiding on the bottom of the sea or when they will randomly go off on their own.
Even on the American mainland some nukes remain missing. In 1958 a Nukes went missing in Georgia. 1998 a pair of retired military officers worked together for years to try to find it, but never succeeded. To this day it remains - somewhere - waiting to just randomly go off. Why any American would willingly live in an area where a nuke could just randomly go off at any time is beyond me.
Anyone, the point is, humanity has very clearly be trying to annihilate itself with nukes. Either by misplacing the nukes or relying on a detection system which would give humans an excuse to launch them. It's just really weird luck that any of us are still alive to talk about it.
In 2012 the implementation of OBD3 requirements already put this capability in vehicles 2012 to present... All it takes is a breathalyzer testing interface module in a OBD3 equipped vehicle.
With every year that passes, my budget allows for a slightly older and older car, rather than slightly newer...guess its for the best.
This channel is basically one of the few places where people from the “Wild West” internet can hang out without any normies shitting up the discussion. It’s nice.
there's a still a bunch of them if you read around the comments buy yeah it's a nice place
I miss those times, man...
Imagine saying this on RUclips and thinking you're somehow actually better than the so called normie. Normie big yikes 😬
"Normies"
@@IISeverusll go away normie.
My time spent in auto shops, driving certain 2016 + Subarus have sensors that will auto apply brakes when an object (garage door) is detected. When driving them, I would joke "if I want to crash into something, let me crash into it!" At the time, not even considering the implications with this current noise...
Just today someone couldn't leave my front yard for 30min, the sensors didn't like snow and ice.
So apparently Teslas actually letting you run into something is a good thing lol
(I saw someone that didn't like that it didn't auto-apply brakes. He got a talking to by several people though)
Yep. Warning sensors are fine. But they all need a manual override. If you want to beep at me when i get near an obstacle go ahead. But if i want to slam against it at full power that's for me to decide
@@tfwmemedumpster well then I don't think Tesla will satisfy you (I think they are least limit forward acceleration when it detects a vehicle in front of you. It will let you drive into it but just not at full power lol)
@@tfwmemedumpster boeing had it all figured out /s
one can only hope that there are safety interlocks to prevent the kill switch from engaging while the car is in motion, only allow it to activate when the car has come to a stop... like at a stop sign/light
This is why I want my next car to be some old, simple car that's fun to drive with a manual transmission.
Enjoy the manual while it lasts! We're a dying breed
Import the car from Europe or easy Asia. They always had/have manuals for sale. Not like that in the United States
@Not Convinced They won't be able to catch me with my Dominic Toretto level money downshifts and godlike drifting skills.
Manual transmission....yessir! Good times my dude, good times.
I love my 2006 red ford ranger with the manual huge as fuck gear stick, taught all my friends how to drive manual so that was fun
Glad to see there are those who still think about Michael Hastings. 😔
I just heard about this Hastings incident on someone’s show from two days ago. Must be a coincidence
Feds: "It is now mandatory that all new automobiles sold in the US have remote kill switches"
Me: **uninstalls it**
Feds: *arrests you*
@@electronix6898 How would they know? Besides, a more logical bypass for the kill switch would be to just drive an older car that doesn't have the kill switch.
@@electronix6898 the car should be able to run with it damaged, I would assume and hope. Theirfore you could "damage" the connection and run without it
@@j.k.4479 Feds: *somehow still knows and kills you*
@@gameonyolo1 Feds: *repairs the connection*
This reminds me of those low-range RF EMPs some law enforcement have used in the past for their vehicles. But this is something else entirely, and scary...
The power electronics for chargers, BMS boards and motor inverters are fairly well documented by the companies who sell the semiconductors to the car industry. A well-educated electrical engineer could probably build an open-source replacement for them. The EPA has no power here, because obviously a hacked electric car is still going to pass emissions.
EV is much, much less complex than an ICE, at least for an electrician. Could zombify a regular car into an EV or remake an EV to remove all the "smart" junk.
It's gonna pass emissions, but I'm 100% sure they will also connect a diagnostic tool to check if the "smart" bloatware is also working and properly spying on you. Could be defeated by having a dummy version though... But then they will check your license plate and see that no data is coming from your vehicle. Would need to also fake that data....
And then they introduce massive fines for people doing it or make it a crime.
So yea, future isn't looking bright.
@@Mic_Glow Maybe have the original software installed and swappable by a debloated version on demand? This way you can bypass the checks and then revert to your own version once approved?
Wait for firmware signing to become mainstream.
@@Mic_Glow ??
You can run a conventional engine without any electronics at all.
@@Mic_Glow no you got it wrong. An EV is much MUCH more complex for an electrician than an ICE car. ICE cars have more mechanical parts and less electronics, while EVs have MANY more and complex electronics but less mechanical parts
This glows in the dark REALLY hard.
Spread the word we need to get ahead of this we can't let this happen its invasion of property and reach of power
Our govt. has been learning what to do to us by studying the CCP.
That video of dude on the bike running from the cop chopper is a dope video. The sparks from his steel balls dragging behind him look cool.
We can all see where this is going. First it's for our safety and then down the road, it's for the companies profit.
All new cars will eventually be on a subscription service.
Uh no are you stupid? Why would the globalists even want us to have a car? This is simply a way to remove people through an accident
@@zacharyrollick6169Modern cars already feel like driving a hall monitor.
Next it will be in your house.
I would imagine its not an immediate cutoff, but rather activates some routine that automatically pulls over and stops the car.
Which sounds better, until you imagine a predator following someone in the middle of the night and stopping their car on a country back road, or a software error that will drive your car off a bridge because you jerked the wheel to miss a raccoon
This policy (at least the alcohol sensor) sounds like something that dies when you try to apply it. Almost 10 years ago now all parties in my country decides there should be mandatory alcholocks in all new cars but that silently died when you realise that in practice it doesn't work.
But you know, it's the US, who cares if it doesn't work, who needs reason?
The USA federal government has become a drunk chimpanzee holding a machine gun. It's illegitimate, it's hostile to the citizens, it's out of control and gone rogue
I bet they are worse than that. My guess is that it will be some type of passive sensor that will detect alcohol in exhaled breath without actively breathing into it. That means that if you have anyone in the vehicle with you and they were drinking, it'll be picked up and the vehicle stops. So much for being DD or going to pick up someone after a party. It's nuts. All for greater central control.
Wow, who could've seen this coming? I sure do hope society stays intact in the coming years, I really love how bright and colourful the future is looking
Another law that benefits the big sellers and makes it harder for opposition to show up, of course also gives the government more power/info. And excuse it by saying “it’s so big daddy government can keep you safe. We can’t trust you, you might make a accident.”
I can see that happening. The biggest companies are gonna be the first to hop on the kill switch, and they’ll be favored with ads and propaganda
This is crappy but it also hardens my position that I will never buy a new car. Also, I think I need to use my skills as a diesel technician and get creative with automotive electronics, software and firmware.
Yup. Can't buy a car yet but after hearing about all this shit I have decided that I will never buy a car made past the year 2000.
@bodd boward Rust can be treated
@bodd boward That’s the unfortunate truth too. They were definitely thinking ahead. It’s only a matter of time before people think less and just do. Everything that’s gonna be implanted and planned in the future is gonna work too which is sad
@bodd boward Yep, and I almost forgot about those chip implants. Some people are gonna be walking ai’s at this point
I've already seen the future of that. I drove some of the new Mercedes and BMW models with full electronics and, particularly on BMW, I never felt that I had a full control of the vehicle.
The car taking the wheel from me, because I was extra careful not to spook a cyclist on a one lane road or not to come too close to a dig out where they didn't care to put yellow markings over... The number of those situations was too damn high.
And I'm just laughing about the alcohol meters disabling the engine start. We've had those battery-powered fans in primary school, they were all the rage. Costed like one euro. Not long before the chronic alcoholics start driving with those in the glove compartment.
It’s not about drunk driving. If that is the case then pass laws about reducing liquor. Dirty
It's pretty simple, they have to remote in to flip that switch. Remove the cell device. Aka OnStar or other remote system. It's usually a separate pcb in the dash and is not needed from the rest of the components to control the car.
What if your buying a self-driving car, and its part of the compiled program itself. Your litterally fucked basically.
Imagine being a journalist and making the Saudis mad, and having your own car drive you off a cliff like that.
This is basicly a mission in GTA liberty city stories. You remote Control a máfia buletproof car and run over like 20 mobsters lol
What if the car requires a heartbeat to a licensing server to start the car? If you disconnect the comms module, it wouldn't start. Or if they just solder the comms hardware directly to the main board
@@honkhonk8009 imagine wanting a self driving car in the first place...
@@zoppp621 thankfully a system like that is unrealistic, too many places in the US where there is no cell service. Can't have a car that refuses to start because you live in the middle of nowhere.
The price of used cars just went up again.
And this time its not just inflation caused by infinite money priting.
Imagine having to do a breath test every single time you get in the car and not even having one DUI charge
Guilty until proven innocent
The automatic drunk detection sounds good unless someone is driving injured to hospital and the car thinks they are drunk. The best thing could just be breathalisers
*driving on the highway at 55-65mph:* _Happy._
*car suddenly turns off and tries to slam breaks automatically because you swerved slightly too much:* _Panic._
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and it ends up you were avoiding roadkill or a pothole
@@MrFujinko I am glad to be part of the
W E E D E A T E R
10 seconds later, you hear a loud honking and a 2 ton truck drives full speed up your ass.
@Not Convinced What safety? I'm dead in the middle of the road and thousands of others with me. Soon my home city is practically a ghost town because half its population got killed on the highway that day due to my car being kill-switched like Thanos snapping the Infinity Gauntlet.
This also leads me to believe they will have a camera watching you drive, that they can monitor. This means they'll know if you're a political dissenter. They have eyes and ears on you in "your own car". I put that part in quotes because I don't believe we own our own stuff anymore. We're just merely given the privilege to pay for and use it. They can take it away at any time.
It is called a cell phone and they already convinced people not to worry about carrying them around everywhere they go.
@@Jake-xe1wu Well yes we all already know that, but obviously this spying apparatus is built into cars too. Otherwise how would the car know what your conscious state is. I'm still driving an old used car from the 2000s. Never buying anything new until we find a way to change this.
also think about how it is essentially impossible to work on a modern car and do basic repairs without paying some technician with million dollar equipment. we do not own our things because we cannot fix them ourselves.
And you will be the first because you complained. There are millions of cars on the road already that do just exactly this spying.
They already listen to your smart phone and watch and can access cameras on your computers and TVs whenever they choose.
Your off road statement really hits home. My last job was installing security systems and well in that job you take your vehicle off road sometimes as a necessity to do the job. I also ran into a lot of other contractors that had to do the same for their job, often times powering tools off an inverter built into the vehicle or moving materials that are not practical to carry or transport otherwise to the spot they are being used.
They want my '04 into a dealership really bad. I have gotten so many notices of this "free" recall to fix a "dangerous" issue with the key possibly falling out while driving. My '07 had a recall to fix the brake lights from failing. I didn't take it in and sure enough, the brake lights stopped working. I called the dealership to be informed the recall had lapsed and I needed to pay to fix it.
The key in my '04 is fine but they keep sending emails and snail mail postcards for me to take it in. Smells like fish to me.
New life mission: get 1337 as fuck, stack 0days sky high, and finally halt the entire US vehicular infrastructure
bro if some Log4j shit was known earlier, it would be funny as shit seeing all that infrastructure shut down, cus of the shit these dumb bureaucrats pull.
If the cars require a heartbeat signal from a server to operate even a noob hacker could shut things down with enough bandwidth just by DDOS the servers.
I can already tell this will be used as an excuse to make older cars even more expensive.
They'll drive them off the road with insurance cost before the resale values spike. It will be like Japan where they just make it too expensive or a hassle to run anything older that 10 years
What if someone hacks the system boom millions of dollars in repair and tens of thousands of deaths
gee I wonder who they'll blame for that
Anonymous hacker known as 4chan
@@MentalOutlaw Russia or NK, as always.
Well Mr. Ghost, you must not have been following the science which has said this is only a one in a century occurrence. So although possible it's fearmongering and conveniently allows you to disagree with all of their rules which will lead to more deaths, you murderer!
Remember : 1 meter of water higher every 300 years. Replacing cars with electric cars was never about the environnement. It was about economy and control
I hate when governments use the "it's for making this better" as a ruse for gaining more control of it citizens
Man, I created a whole Cyberpunk universe based on this very idea years ago with the advent of electric cars and WiFi.
We truly live in the worst timeline.
That sounds interesting. Gimme the deets!
I had a dream a while back went something like this.. I needed to make some repairs in my lawn mower and after that I needed to call an agency who was remotely monitoring lawn mower to make sure it was within spec before it was allowed to be turned on again.
John Deere.
Not a dream. A prophecy.
This makes me want to buy a gasoline powered car from 2006 even more than I previously did.