The Making of Dunkirk's Aerial Scenes

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  • Some interesting facts I learned about the making of the aerial scenes for the movie Dunkirk. Music from the Battle of Britain score.
    This video is dedicated to my late friend Ray Arsenault who "Flew West" recently. Godspeed and tail winds Ray.
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  • @TheDutchMitchell
    @TheDutchMitchell 6 лет назад +157

    The stuka diving scenes were amazing. So frightening to hear that sound

    • @CalDal_22
      @CalDal_22 5 лет назад +4

      Mitchell the loud booming as the bombs came closer at the start gave me so many goose bumps lol

    • @robinhooduk8255
      @robinhooduk8255 5 лет назад +2

      most were removed in real life as the pilots hated them.

    • @vogonpoet5860
      @vogonpoet5860 3 года назад +1

      in every movie where a plane dives or crashes film makers dub on volume adjusted "horn of jehricho" sirens to signify high speed decent, even though the horn of jehricho sirens were fitted to Stukas and only Stukas, so memorable and iconic was the sound. so next time you see the hero wrestling a diving plain and hear that scream, you can be forgiven for looking for a Stuka

    • @foxxodoxxo9564
      @foxxodoxxo9564 3 года назад

      rrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    • @bmcg5296
      @bmcg5296 3 года назад

      Those sirens had to be removed by the pilots because it was effecting their own men’s hearing. Deaf men flying not being able to hear orders wasn’t a good situation. Would have meant you have men being individuals and not as units. War is brutal on those facing it but also doing it people forget.

  • @electricfutures5850
    @electricfutures5850 6 лет назад +56

    They filmed the scenes over my place of work. So we regularly rushed out of the office (well I did) to see the show overhead.
    I knew it was Spitfires even without looking out of the window, the Merlin is unmistakable.
    Great stuff to witness.
    The trouble with CGI is that you get creative young folk making the scenes and they don't have a clue about the physics of flying, so any CGI scene would look unrealistic. Apart from that the director would put pressure on the CGI people to put in ridiculous shots. So all in all live action will always look more realistic.

    • @kaneda7368
      @kaneda7368 3 года назад +3

      "all in all live action will always look more realistic" Well, yeah, it's live action. It looks realistic because it _is_ real haha

    • @davebob2884
      @davebob2884 3 года назад +4

      I hate CGI ww2 dogfights with a passion. Look at midway (2019) it was awful. An absolute disgrace. Dunkirk has its faults (5 hour glides and a lack of aeroplanes which for some reason are fighting at 500ft) but one can suspend their disbelief because the fighting and flying is authentic. I am willing to forgive its shortcomings due to the fact Nolan went to the effort to make sure that it was live action and not just some bullshit CGI.

  • @TheArsenalgunner28
    @TheArsenalgunner28 6 лет назад +289

    Watching the movie, I couldn't actually believe some of the shots in the dog fight, nice to see such passion put into a film at this current time in cinema. I only hope Ridley Scott considers a similar approach with the Battle of Britain remake

    • @annoyedsabahan
      @annoyedsabahan 6 лет назад +11

      There is going to be a remake??

    • @zoisback28
      @zoisback28 6 лет назад +4

      Dave Gunner there's a new one?

    • @monkey363
      @monkey363 6 лет назад +13

      knowing ridey scott there will be a lot more cgi than actual aircraft

    • @annoyedsabahan
      @annoyedsabahan 6 лет назад +12

      This is what scares me...the CGI's will kill the film. And I hope there are no love stories like Pearl Harbour.

    • @MrLazyslug
      @MrLazyslug 6 лет назад +15

      Well if they do a remake let's hope the Poles get full credit for the role they played. They were outstanding and treated disgracefully after the war.

  • @patriotsquill
    @patriotsquill 6 лет назад +33

    100% agree that it was worth it. "The Battle of Britain" is probably my favorite movie of all time, so the aerial sequences in Dunkirk sent chills up my spine. And having Michael Caine do a little voice acting for the radio chatter sequences almost brought a tear to my eye!

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 лет назад

      I liked that bit as well. It was just perfect.

    • @scottcowie6411
      @scottcowie6411 4 года назад

      Thought it was Michael Caine's voice my brother argued with me for days, it was a nice touch though

    • @PicanteAtlas
      @PicanteAtlas 3 года назад

      We need another battle of britain movie directed by the same guy who directed dunkirk

    • @billy4072
      @billy4072 2 года назад +1

      @@PicanteAtlas Hitler?

  • @Chasing100
    @Chasing100 6 лет назад +190

    Christopher Nolan knew that the Messerchmitts shouldn't have had the yellow noses, but said unfortunately it made it too difficult to tell the planes apart for average viewers. So the yellow stayed.

    • @rodparsons521
      @rodparsons521 6 лет назад +1

      Which was BS anyway since before the later use of yellow under nose and wingtips on the Russian front and later on the Invasion front in Schlachtgeschwadern (or of white on the African/Mediterranean front) as a measure against friendly ground fire, by late 1940 a particular nose and numeral colour would be applied to only one Staffel in each Gruppe, as for example the identifying colour for the first, fourth and seventh Staffel of a Geschwader of three Gruppen with Gruppe I consisting of the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Staffeln, Gruppe 2 of the 4th, 5th and 6th, Gruppe III of the 7th, 8th & 9th.
      Yellow was never the exclusive identifier of all 109's or of an imagined "yellow nose" ace unit as popular opinion and mess gossip of the time would have had it.

    • @TheDutchMitchell
      @TheDutchMitchell 6 лет назад +34

      Well it definitely looks damn awesome. I don't have a problem with it

    • @RedStarRogue
      @RedStarRogue 6 лет назад +21

      It ultimately wouldn't be that much time (months) until they did start painting them yellow, so not hugely inaccurate. Let's just be glad Hollywood isn't painting Patton tanks with iron crosses anymore.

    • @Jared_Wignall
      @Jared_Wignall 6 лет назад +12

      Rod Parsons most people don’t know the history of planes, let alone planes used in war. The average person doesn’t care about the color of the nose of the plane at all. It’s done to tell which planes apart as many might think they’ll begin to look the same, as many are shown from a distance in the film.

    • @mike74em
      @mike74em 6 лет назад +2

      CianFit average viewers .... a.k.a. Americans.

  • @GoGreen1977
    @GoGreen1977 5 лет назад +6

    My dad took me to "Battle of Britain" in 1969. He was an air traffic controller, had been one during WW 2, so I was probably one of the few girl teenagers who knew all about Spitfires, Hurricanes, P-51 Mustangs, and other fighter planes of that era. I loved the movie and the music. Always good to hear it again. I wish my dad was still around so I could have shared Dunkirk with him. I love the Hans Zimmerman score, too and I'm not concerned about a few historical inaccuracies. The movie made a lot of people aware of a major event during World War 2 and as a result, history of the world.

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  5 лет назад

      I aalso did one on the making of the Battle of Britain, ruclips.net/video/Wn6W7lXCN3k/видео.html

  • @waterboxer87
    @waterboxer87 6 лет назад +61

    Real 70mm film and no cursed CGI--loved it! As for the historical inaccuracies? Who cares! It's a movie, not a college classroom.

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 6 лет назад +4

      waterboxer87 You base a film of history it's gonna be historically accurate. And on the mvie's part it has a satisfying amount of historical accuratness

    • @ArnoldTohtFan
      @ArnoldTohtFan 6 лет назад

      any good aspects of the movie are nullified by the fact that they used that BASTARD teal-and-orange colour grading yet again.

    • @bertrandvaudeville2272
      @bertrandvaudeville2272 6 лет назад +3

      as a teacher, I personnally disagree. You just respect History if your aim is to tell a real or reallooking story and not a comedy or a "film de genre"...

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 5 лет назад +1

      It is fine to respect history but if you have 2 dozen Spitfire Mk IX's and only 1 or 2 Spitfire Mk I's it is probably better to use what you have rather than nothing. As long as the film tells the truth that is the main thing, so often Hollywood make changes for no good reason, sometimes just to make the US look good.

    • @vstar7196
      @vstar7196 4 года назад

      This is where you’re totally out to lunch. Most peoples’ perspective of history comes from film, not actual documentaries or honest to goodness books. So the criticism that Hollywood uses too much artistic license to entertain rather than tell a true story is valid.

  • @petermoyes8766
    @petermoyes8766 5 лет назад +3

    i am 70 yrs old ,,i had the luck to watch the battle of britain fimed,,my dad was working close to the airfield ,and i went with him ,,then had beers with german pilots in the pub ,,,no phone cameras then ,,,the camera plane was amazing ,piles of tires on fire for effect ,,planes screaming over ,,bloody thrill of my life ...thanks dad

  • @Themightystuka
    @Themightystuka 6 лет назад +58

    One of the spitfires was happily provided by the Biggin Hill Heritage Hangar, the spitfire in question was ep122 an early mkV, which you can see there today. Loved working on her for the time I worked at the hangar.

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад +3

      That is wonderful

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 лет назад

      Lucky you.

    • @WolfsH0ok
      @WolfsH0ok 6 лет назад

      My uncle flew spitfires after the war
      They were used for training

  • @motherofdragons7048
    @motherofdragons7048 6 лет назад +11

    Thank you for this video!! I knew the aerial scenes had to be practical, knowing how little cgi Nolan wants to use in his films, but couldn't quite work out how. Thank you

  • @bilbobigbollix7318
    @bilbobigbollix7318 6 лет назад +1

    What a lovely little piece. Really enjoyed it. Thanks very much for posting it.

  • @roniget
    @roniget 6 лет назад +10

    Love the Battle of Britain music. lol nice touch mate.

  • @stevejjd
    @stevejjd 6 лет назад +40

    Dunkirk was a really great film. They did a great job. People who complain don't realize that making a movie is a miracle

  • @corymcgrath5652
    @corymcgrath5652 6 лет назад

    The sound track for another amazingly well shot film in the background. Nice touch.

  • @challyho6375
    @challyho6375 4 года назад +8

    Got to say the scene with the spitfire flying low over the beach with the engine off choked me up felt proud to be British and how brave all the soldiers where at such a young age

  • @fkerpants
    @fkerpants 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks so much for this video. I'm happy to have learned how they did much of this. I'd love to know more about scenes like these in other films if you like doing them.

  • @haffoc
    @haffoc 6 лет назад

    They did a fantastic job on the aerial sequences. For my money, they made the movie. My old man was a fighter pilot in WW2. I grew up watching gun cam films, and I've watched many more on YT. Also my old man played some of the combat flight games that started coming out in the 90s. He told me they were surprisingly realistic. What you see in Dunkirk is consistent with this. Well done, guys.

  • @gregorygiakoumidis7149
    @gregorygiakoumidis7149 3 года назад

    Thanks so much for this video mate

  • @Jensway1
    @Jensway1 6 лет назад

    Fantastic. Well put together with good info! Thumbs up

  • @xmanhoe
    @xmanhoe 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the upload

  • @boatingforbeginners7949
    @boatingforbeginners7949 5 лет назад

    Great work, thanks for sharing the details

  • @ferris5150
    @ferris5150 6 лет назад

    really interesting video! thanks for making it!

  • @rundoetx
    @rundoetx 4 года назад

    Great info. Thanks Max. Loved that movie

  • @wntu4
    @wntu4 6 лет назад

    Thanks for this info. I was completely smitten with the aerial shots in the movie and grateful that Nolan made this kind of effort. Sadly the day will come when none of these aircraft are flyable and we will be left with only CGI.

  • @papaske3375
    @papaske3375 6 лет назад

    Great movie!
    I looked at it as historical entertainment, which captured the feel of the time.
    Loved the air scenes. Details overlooked.

  • @johnevans7261
    @johnevans7261 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the informative video, much appreciated. HMS Daedalus at Lee-on-Solent, Gosport was the ex-Royal Navy airfield used during the filming of 'Dunkirk', just a few miles from the one at Fort Grange where the great Smith-Barry taught the world to fly at the RFC School of Special Flying in 1917. I was born about three miles from Grange as the Avro 504K flies. American viewers might like to know that Grange was the airfield to which Charles Lindbergh flew 'The Spirit of St Louis' in 1927 for crating up prior to its return by sea to the USA after his transatlantic flight. I enjoyed the film very much and cheered like a good'un when the Little Ships emerged from the mist - my great grandfather's cousin skippered the barge 'Tollsbury' to Dunkirk and got away with it.

  • @cessna17269
    @cessna17269 6 лет назад

    I loved your work

  • @idontknowwhatiamdoinganymo1615
    @idontknowwhatiamdoinganymo1615 6 лет назад +9

    I got to be a extra in Dunkirk and seeing the aircraft in costume at the REAL Dunkirk it automatically puts you in character you don't know why but your mind just goes from 15 year old kid in a little costume to a British soldier fighting for his life, his friends, family, country, and freedom.

  • @terrasprite
    @terrasprite 6 лет назад

    Such an enduring and inspirational soundtrack! Makes my British bones quiver.

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish 6 лет назад +1

    The flight along the beach was superbly shot.

  • @clarkmartin5998
    @clarkmartin5998 6 лет назад

    i saw the movies. Thank you for sharing this information. Most interesting.

  • @melancholymelon5316
    @melancholymelon5316 4 года назад +2

    The scenes of the stuka flying down with its siren were chilling

  • @dougcastleman9518
    @dougcastleman9518 6 лет назад +1

    I appreciate the use of the theme from 1969's Battle of Britain movie, still my all time favorite aviation movie. Love this theme as well.

  • @barrierodliffe4155
    @barrierodliffe4155 4 года назад +4

    The Spitfire is one of the aircraft that looks as good as it flies. The old saying "if it looks right it is right" and I am sure someone will correct me if I do not have the saying quite correct.

  • @George-jv5cf
    @George-jv5cf 6 лет назад

    LOVE THOSE OLD PLANES---GREAT JOB!!!

  • @triplex2912
    @triplex2912 6 лет назад

    What a fantastic job! Congratulations and well done to
    everyone concerned.

  • @TheDarkSinner11
    @TheDarkSinner11 6 лет назад

    This movie was done beautifully and perfect.loved it

  • @christopherfisher6293
    @christopherfisher6293 6 лет назад

    My uncle Ronald ,my mums brother, was at Dunkirk. Only found out from my gran, Ron's mum, what happened. He never spoke about it.Served in the Fire Service with a senior officer who wept when he spoke of Dunkirk.

  • @colinstarford5544
    @colinstarford5544 6 лет назад +13

    When facts are more entertaining than fiction! Great video!! Great planes! Great music!! Great history!!

    • @blitzkriegazteca642
      @blitzkriegazteca642 6 лет назад +1

      Colin Starford ....NOT great movie

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 6 лет назад

      Movie TRYED to be historically accurate but yea...facts are better than fiction.. I am now waiting on a movie about the battle of castle lttrr

    • @ShizukuSeiji
      @ShizukuSeiji 6 лет назад +1

      No, the movie did not try to be historically accurate, Nolan attempted to portray the experience of war for individuals, making it a story of personal terror, fear, heroism, cowardice and so on. The historical accuracy was purely secondary.
      Even then it was considerably more historically accurate than crap like Red Tails, Pearl Harbor and similar rubbish.

  • @gerhardusvanrooyen6663
    @gerhardusvanrooyen6663 6 лет назад +2

    Wonderful movie and will go down in history as a classic!

    • @blitzkriegazteca642
      @blitzkriegazteca642 6 лет назад

      Gerhardus Van Rooyen ....what the hell are you talking about? This piece of shit sucks ass. Its a dark ages we are living on, and its affecting movies and music, and the worst is that people like this bullshit. Be my guest and give this shit your money, just stoo calling it great, its a scam of a flick, its a film that i will never have in my personal collection. Im out

    • @ShizukuSeiji
      @ShizukuSeiji 6 лет назад

      He can call it great if he wants and you can call it crap if you want, your opinions are your opinions but you're just wrong to disagree with someone's opinion.

  • @Hangar101
    @Hangar101 5 лет назад

    Great job, it's an amazing movie.

  • @bakewell7284
    @bakewell7284 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the insight maxsmodels, I was wondering about the Stuka for one! , ps, you are right it was so refreshing not to see cgi especially for this film!

  • @CorsetGrace
    @CorsetGrace 6 лет назад +4

    Using the "Battle of Britain" music was epic. Good choice.

  • @larrybomber83
    @larrybomber83 3 года назад

    Thanks for the look see! Nice video.

  • @terryofford4977
    @terryofford4977 3 года назад

    The efforts involved in this film of the world shaking WW2 Aircraft and the actions in which is /was invovled are brilliant and all thanks should go to the producers of this important replication of WW2 Spitfire.

  • @tazman8697
    @tazman8697 6 лет назад

    Hats off to all the people involved in this movie. It really is a good movie and I strongly recommend watching it in an i-max theater

  • @jagdpanther9RCaircraft
    @jagdpanther9RCaircraft 6 лет назад

    awesome stuff max ! really neat to plug in this info after watching the air combat scenes a few times. do you have ANY info on the next movie from Hanks and Speilberg "The Mighty 8TH" masters of the sky? all i can find is it is years behind schedule and there is a 800 million dollar budget. Thanks! =D

  • @randycheow5311
    @randycheow5311 6 лет назад +22

    This make me wanna get a spitfire model kit

    • @warrenchambers4819
      @warrenchambers4819 6 лет назад +2

      I strongly encourage you to get one. I'll even suggest a couple good kits. If your new to model kit building (If not pardon me) you can't go wrong with the Airfix 1/72 Spitfire Mk1 its a small kit but builds up nice and you won't spend 3mos building it. And it looks like those of the Dunkirk time period. If you prefer something bigger I'd go with the new release of Revells 1/32 Spitfire Mk1a it has great detail and is still a simple build. Both of these kits are under 25 bucks. Good luck hope you join the hobby. My next Spitfire will be a Durafly 1400mm R/C Mk1a. Beautiful aircraft and loads of fun to fly. One can never have to many spits.

    • @randycheow5311
      @randycheow5311 6 лет назад

      I've been doing it since 11 and I haven't had a spitfire model, but does tamiya has a 1/72 scale spitfire

    • @JaredHardstyle33
      @JaredHardstyle33 6 лет назад

      Warren Chambers I know nothing about model kit building so I have a question. Are there any sort of special tools needed for model building or does the kit come with them or are they not needed at all?

    • @stevelester4188
      @stevelester4188 6 лет назад

      A company called Durafly make beautifully finished 1100mm wingspan electric radio control Spitfires, at reasonable prices. They make a Mk1a version complete with scale three blade prop, correct 'split' flaps and retracts. The shape is virtually perfect and the attention to detail, colours and markings are spot on. I fly a later version Mk5b and it is an absolute joy to perform scale-ish manoeuvres and low level passes, the shape and sit in the air looks just right. They are not for beginners though, as with the real aircraft, they don't behave so well on the ground and are a high performance fighter, so need to be flown as such! Absolutely brilliant to fly

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 6 лет назад

      I also recommend looking into Electric RC Models. RC airplanes have come along way in just the last few years. They are easier and quicker to build, are more scale looking and cheaper than it was before. In my option FlightlineRC makes the best RC MK.IX Spitfires currently available in either the 1200mm or 1600mm wingspan size. Check out this review of one of them. ruclips.net/video/69MH0n5OGlk/видео.html

  • @BungSpoot
    @BungSpoot 6 лет назад +2

    These scenes we're the shit I swear, I love it

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 6 лет назад +1

    how did they do the gliding scene w/ dead prop?

  • @jeyapaulsamathanam7057
    @jeyapaulsamathanam7057 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. Now we know how it was done. And, it wasn't easy!

  • @MrSameeg
    @MrSameeg 6 лет назад

    Thanks !!

  • @milano61
    @milano61 6 лет назад

    Thanks for this video. Good explanation of the amount of effort put into the flight scenes. I thought the movie was melodramatic crap and I was very critical of some of the flying combat. But now I appreciate a bit more.

  • @jammerman0101
    @jammerman0101 6 лет назад +4

    Liked the movie and I do know there are people who's sole sense of self worth is to be a critic of doers while doing nothing of their own .

  • @timothylyons5686
    @timothylyons5686 3 года назад +2

    The spitfire that was torched by Ken Hart was recovered and was restored to flying condition. I believe that was the aircraft used to simulate the landing on the beach 70 years after it first did it.

  • @davehornet6
    @davehornet6 6 лет назад

    I work for a company in the U.K called GateguardsUK.
    We built 2 replica mk2 spitfires for this film, made of fibreglass (GRP).
    We sent them out in just grey primer for the film art crew to paint so they would match the real spitfires used for a lot of the aerial scenes.
    We fitted out both aircraft with replica instruments and cockpit fittings.
    The propellors that you speak of were just screwed and glued onto a blank panel on the nose. We were NOT asked to build replica engines. We did however make a spare cockpit section, tail unit, main wing and set of rear wings.
    The cockpit section was put on a gimble to film a lot of the flight scenes with the actors in as obviously they would not be flying a real multi million pound aircraft.
    One of the spitfires was sent to the USA for filming in a pool/tank. The other was sent to the Netherlands to be launched from a barge for the crash scene.
    If you look at the Dunkirk advertising poster, the nose of the spitfire (from the windscreen to the propellor) droops downwards slightly.
    It is not supposed to. Some of our guys messed up a bit when building the front section but were told it would be fine as it was only for the crash scene!
    I can't believe they used it for the dam poster! We all had a laugh about that

  • @GlitchedBlox
    @GlitchedBlox 4 года назад

    Massive respect for not using a lot of cgi.

  • @harrykeel8557
    @harrykeel8557 6 лет назад

    I can usually pick apart a war movie , that's why I don"t watch them. But this movie from the beginning had a tone that submerses the viewer and keeps it and allows all the "fudge moments" to slip by, and it was spellbinding to say the least. Awesome movie of an equally challenging moment in the history of World War 2.

  • @TheNick179
    @TheNick179 6 лет назад +2

    Nice Video - what is the Name of the Music @ the End ?

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад +1

      Battle of Britain soundtrack

  • @tvguide4khv
    @tvguide4khv 6 лет назад

    Thanks! Will name this video for myself as: The Making of Dunkirk's (2017) Aerial Scenes with Yak and Pros.

  • @pascalchauvet4230
    @pascalchauvet4230 6 лет назад

    What a wonderful application for the fantastic good old Ted Smith /Piper Aerostar!!!

    • @mr-lm9cd
      @mr-lm9cd 6 лет назад

      Yes, I miss flying Aerostars. A really hi performance aircraft, 300 HP a side, but hard to slow down; too clean an airframe. Some later ones had an STC for flight spoilers. ATC liked them too, you could descend clean at 250 knots . I had a lot of time on Cessna 402s, so transition to the Aerostar was easy. I would love to fly one again, someday..Movie "American Made" apparently has some Aerostar flying scenes.

  • @pheasantpluckersson2138
    @pheasantpluckersson2138 4 года назад +1

    They also used a spitfire cockpit on a rotary platform on a coastal cliff in order to get some of the close up scenes of the actors in the dog fight scenes
    It’s shown on the extras part of the dvd

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels  5 лет назад +2

    RC model. You can see it at time mark 4:48

  • @barnabyg6808
    @barnabyg6808 6 лет назад +7

    So when the spitfire ran out of fuel, did they actually cut the engine or was that added later, that would have been quite risky to do with an actual spitfire with an actually dead prop

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад +7

      Tankieguy Lol unknown for certain but they did land one on a prepped strip on the beach . I believe they used CGI to exchange the turning prop for a static one BUT the same effect can be duplicated by matching the correct film speed with the current RPM which I think is somewhere around 60fps to 1320 rpm. It is similar to when wagon wheels seem to be rotating backwards on film but you have to very exact. There is a RUclips video somewhere of a Russian helicopter flying but the blades look stationary because the frame rate and rpm are perfectly synchronized so that each frame catches blades in the exact same spot. Probably changes depending on how many blades you have.

    • @barnabyg6808
      @barnabyg6808 6 лет назад

      maxsmodels ok thank you for such a detailed response, that makes a lot of sense, I feel it’s unlikely that they would have risked damaging such an iconic aircraft should it require a go around by cutting off the engine, thanks again max

    • @barnabyg6808
      @barnabyg6808 6 лет назад +2

      Karm Asutor, very easy to understand, your English is very good. There is no brake on the prop, just the momentum required to turn all 12 cylinders of the engine with the gearing and other things. It can be started again but that would take a good couple of seconds for the engine to warm up and be ready, plus the fact that he had supposedly run out of fuel. I agree the risk of stalling is maybe not negligible but as the plane if only a few feet off the ground, the affects certainly would have been negligible.

    • @Twister051
      @Twister051 4 года назад

      @@maxsmodels Wouldn't work. Even if it showed the prop "stopped" the blades would be the wrong pitch angle: relatively flat instead of feathered.

  • @nickdawn3985
    @nickdawn3985 6 лет назад

    Informative, and thank you for not using a computer voice!

  • @dominicrobertson7626
    @dominicrobertson7626 6 лет назад

    When my dad was in the RAF in the 1980's they helped do repairs on an old spitfire as they still had all the tools lying around in the hangars from the war

  • @Zarastro54
    @Zarastro54 6 лет назад

    With all that attention to detail, it still baffles me why the dorsal gunner of the Heinkel sounded like a bloody cannon.

  • @vandanayadav1340
    @vandanayadav1340 4 года назад +9

    Imagine if a WW2 veteran saw those spirfires and 109s fly outside his house.

  • @motorcyclestig6941
    @motorcyclestig6941 5 лет назад +1

    You covered everything except the one question I have and that is when he belly landed the spitfire on the water... How did they do that. Because you can see what looks to be a spitfire and clearly see a person in it. Did they make a fake knock off like a kit plane or.... lmk if anyone knows. Thanks

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  5 лет назад

      MOTORCYCLE STIG I do believes they used both models and a full scale mock up.

  • @stevelester4188
    @stevelester4188 6 лет назад

    Richard Darlington, the foam Spit suggestion was to people who want a relatively quick, easy and cheap route into flying a Spit model or other warbird. The Hangar 9 and Topflite models are obviously superb, but on a whole different level of aero modelling/flying! Flying foam warbirds is still "doing it right", just a lot easier, smaller, more convenient and cheaper for those that are content at that level. Or indeed relative warbird beginners

  • @tylersharpeboi8748
    @tylersharpeboi8748 4 года назад

    Something else I’ve thought of, did they use a model spitfire for Collins crash landing on the water (The moment of impact) because I know that the aftermath of the crash was a built cockpit set for the actor, but yeah the moment the spitfire belly lands on the water, was that a model?

  • @michaelnaven213
    @michaelnaven213 2 года назад

    Great movie!

  • @bullranderman
    @bullranderman 6 лет назад +5

    Why no mention of the Blenheim , flying as an F1, out if Duxford , the only one of its kind anywhere?

  • @carsonhaught9934
    @carsonhaught9934 6 лет назад

    Enjoyed your video but left the cinema undecided about Dunkirk. Two scenes had me troubled, how long did that Spitfire pilot really have before his ditched plane sank? And how long can a Spitfire glide like in the movie? Last, I have seen quite a few Spits land and the adopt the curving approach not like in the movie.... But very impressed with the lengths they went to to bring this to the screen after the insulting Red Tails thing.

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад +1

      Some of that was just eye candy. It is still a movie and the eye candy sells tickets.

    • @carsonhaught9934
      @carsonhaught9934 6 лет назад

      Agree and it was not as much of a stretch as some other movies yet when you insist on more authenticity (Nolan I mean) then these two parts had me less impressed.

  • @auerstadt06
    @auerstadt06 6 лет назад

    I saw the last Heinkel flying far above me back in '95 or '96 when I was in Mission Viejo California. The El Toro air show must have been going on.

  • @combatpig3435
    @combatpig3435 6 лет назад

    It’s my favorite movie but thought that shot of the side of the spitfire with the imax camera on the wing always looked off

  • @garygrandy9443
    @garygrandy9443 6 лет назад +170

    I disappointed than no one got a hole in their right wing

  • @morriganravenchild6613
    @morriganravenchild6613 6 лет назад +4

    Found the aerial combat scenes unconvincing compared to the original "Battle of Britain" movie (1969).

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад

      Morrigan Ravenchild Check out my video on the making of the aerial scenes of the original battle of Britain movie

  • @liamdemay4710
    @liamdemay4710 2 года назад

    Best dogfights in any aviation movie ever made holy

  • @richardjoganah1871
    @richardjoganah1871 6 лет назад

    Heroes of telemark is actually one of my favorite war films 😊😊

  • @marthavaughan4660
    @marthavaughan4660 6 лет назад

    was sad to hear abt. the HE111 crash in 2003. In 1993, I made the pilgrimage to the Champlin Fighter Museum in Mesa Ariz. There on the tarmac was the Heinkel, a gift from Hitler to Franco undergoing restoration. I walked up, stuck my head inside, and was greeted with a come on in. An amazing piece of history that. Too bad as the commentator said, she is no longer with us. To sit in the plane and smell the history was truly awesome.

    • @jdg6668
      @jdg6668 6 лет назад +1

      The He-111 belonged to the Arizona wing of the CAF not Champlin Fighter Museum the museeum was near to the CAF area which probably why the confusion. I spent much time in and around it. Also knew one of the two of the three crew that were killed in the crash.

    • @marthavaughan4660
      @marthavaughan4660 6 лет назад

      I didnt mean to intimate that the plane belonged to champlin- It just happened to be @ the same location. regardless, she was truly an icon

    • @marthavaughan4660
      @marthavaughan4660 6 лет назад

      Sorry-- look below

  • @radiobikini6429
    @radiobikini6429 6 лет назад

    Cool.

  • @rollingthunder4
    @rollingthunder4 6 лет назад

    Great background info - didn't realise the last 111 crashed 😕

  • @johnhaley6489
    @johnhaley6489 6 лет назад +1

    THE Flying sequences were real Boys Own stuff. THE best since Battle of Britain in 1969. EPIC.

  • @GordyCOD
    @GordyCOD 6 лет назад

    Saw them filming over Portsmouth

  • @FubarSir
    @FubarSir 6 лет назад +1

    Great vid!
    Your music intro and out are too long, however
    Keep 'em flying!

  • @williewideback
    @williewideback 6 лет назад

    Pretty interesting

  • @alteredbeast67
    @alteredbeast67 6 лет назад

    Im glad you mentioned they were not actually real Bf 109's. So many people seem to completely ignore this glaring error and it annoys me hugely to see those exhaust outlets at the top of the engine block instead of at the bottom as the Mercedes benz DB 600 series engines were inverted. In films and airshows everywhere they call them 109's when really they are just knock off Spanish copies....

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 6 лет назад

      They are the closest thing you will get today. So unless you want to bitch and whine about crappy CGI instead, deal with it.

  • @525Lines
    @525Lines 6 лет назад

    I thought it was all CGI. It looked great. Spotless, new canopies, too. Angels 1!

  • @EASYTIGER10
    @EASYTIGER10 5 лет назад

    What a beautiful bird the Spitfire is

  • @spitfire4206
    @spitfire4206 6 лет назад +1

    time to make another battle of britain movie great intro music

  • @sidekickmedia3256
    @sidekickmedia3256 6 лет назад

    5:28 Which pilot escaped? Fergis 1 or the actual pilot?

  • @MrMakinCupcakes
    @MrMakinCupcakes 6 лет назад +2

    Why didn't they use any RC models for the bf-109 scenes ?

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  6 лет назад

      I would imagine for continuity. They wanted to have Flying scenes with real aircraft and the Spanish Buchons were the only BF-109 style planes available. If they had used radio control models in conjunction with them then there would likely have been a loss of continuity over to look at the film. This of course is just my best guess and it would be interesting to hear what the producers have to say.

  • @jamesfeuilherade3664
    @jamesfeuilherade3664 6 лет назад

    A remake of the Battle of Britain with the number of Spitfires, Hurricanes and other types flying today and with today's technology, is a very exciting prospect. Hopefully it will be done to to be an historically accurate an account. Also to accurately depict what people experienced at the time. The Buchon problem however, and Heinkel III engines is a difficult one. Somehow the Merlin engines of the Heinkels or CASAs doesn't seem so bad... but the Buchons are obvious. As I said, the inverted mounting of an Allison engine in a Buchon, in the USA worked brilliantly. If I owned a Buchon and a film company offered a chance to have it modified for a far more authentic Bf109 look, I would definately be interested.

  • @joylynablanida5806
    @joylynablanida5806 6 лет назад

    What is the name of the music

  • @tylersharpeboi8748
    @tylersharpeboi8748 5 лет назад +1

    What did they do for the scene were farrier torches his spitfire in flames, how did they do it?

    • @maxsmodels
      @maxsmodels  5 лет назад

      It was a mock up which has been criticized because of the obviously fake over-sized prop shaft that is visible. The prop on a Spit is mounted to the forward engine block, not a long stem.

  • @Shrike200
    @Shrike200 6 лет назад +30

    If I could change just one thing about the film, it would be the obvious model that was used for the ditching scene. I know they tried to avoid CGI, but that was just far too obviously a model that it broke the 'suspension of disbelief, it was that jarring.
    On the wishlist: A real DB-engined 109 (I know, getting any DB-engined E model 109 isn't going to happen easily), and the 'over the cowl' shots to be more plausibly from a Spit - the Yak's 'dress up' just wasn't quite there. A bit hard to make a radial look like an inline engine....the low relative speeds were a bit obvious to me (a sim nut), but the RC models were actually very good.
    That being said, I'd forgotten that they had to shoot all of this on an Imax camera, so they did really well given the obvious attempt to avoid CGI and go for real practical effects.
    A nice summary of the air work, thanks.

    • @FFND16N
      @FFND16N 6 лет назад +2

      There are actually a few 'Emil's in flying condition--possibly 3. One of them is over here in WA where I live..part of Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Collection & Armour Museum @Boeing Paine Field, Mukilteo.
      They've been flying 6 ships all week in preparation for a show today; all else aside, I'l be going to see their new Mossie as well.

    • @FFND16N
      @FFND16N 6 лет назад +1

      ...And that is DB-601 engined, mined you...

    • @billace90
      @billace90 6 лет назад +2

      Anton Allen
      I am not an aviation purist, but I think using the Spanish Buchón "ME-109's"
      was something that detracts from such a great movie.
      As you correctly say there are several authentic ME-109's airworthy, but did the producers really made the effort to use them in the film?
      We will never know.

    • @blitzkriegazteca642
      @blitzkriegazteca642 6 лет назад +1

      Shrike200 .....how about a goddamn dialog...!?

    • @gailraby1722
      @gailraby1722 6 лет назад

      +Guillermo Garraton
      I think the fact that the daily wave after wave of German bombers (every 20mins) missing from the film lets it down, Dunkirk was completely on fire, only the town hall was still standing but that wasn't shown, on June 3rd, 3 squadrons of Spitfire and Hurricanes met 120 bombers over Dunkirk at just after 9 in the morning and I would have liked to seen that included in the film, even if we just heard about it.. 26,000 men were removed from the beach on average most days, 1/3 of them were French but that was missing from the film too. . this film could have been good but they didn't bother with history and made a fictional film about an actual historical event. big fail, what a terrible film.

  • @mogaman28
    @mogaman28 6 лет назад

    The Buchón, the spanish version of the bf109 were made by Hispano-Aviación. That company was later absorbed by CASA. Hispano-aviación also made a version of the he-111. Both were produced in my hometown, Seville. The factory is now an Sport center.

    • @mogaman28
      @mogaman28 6 лет назад

      Correcting myself, the spanish version of the he-111 was made by CASA.

  • @guiguiferrand2296
    @guiguiferrand2296 4 года назад

    What is the music

  • @gloomsouls
    @gloomsouls 3 года назад

    So much better than CGI.