FAQ About Transformer™ Breather System for Harley's
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Frequently Asked Questions about the Revolutionary Transformer™ EBS (External Breather System) for Harley Motorcycles. Will it Fit My Air Cleaner & More???
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hey guys , thanks for using my question !
Thanks man, appreciate it. 👍
I got this Transformer EBS in the other day along with the 606 air cleaner. I went with the 90 degree and routed the line up under the tank to the front of the frame attaching the catch can to the oil cooler hard line. I painted the spacers to match the heads. Having the raw aluminum Transformer in between the gloss black back plate and the spacers I painted gloss black. It just makes the whole system pop when you want to show it off to your friends. The 606 air cleaner system is awesome. The endless customizations with intake covers. Keep up the great work.
Sounds awesome! We appreciate your business & support! Ride safe!
Thank you for all the videos you have produced so far. I have learned so much regarding EBS and your Outlaw air cleaners. Both are in my near future for my 19 Limited. As for this video, you guys have the patience of a saint. You guys answered the what if I, can I do, and how about this questions like true professionals. I’m still binge watching your previous content and looking forward to your new products and information. Thank you again.
Thank you for the kind words. We appreciate your business, and are happy that you are finding the videos useful. 👍
Truly a fine and functional product that I will consider purchasing in the future.
Thank you! 👍
You guy make a great team. I missed the first video on the transformer going back now and check it out. My winter project is a 2003 100th anniversary softail with a numbered paint job Cholo build show bike. Have been concerned about putring the DK custom up greads on it like I have on the 131 trike. Im going to order one of these units and a air cleaner. Love the work you guys do. Thanks.
Thank you for the good words, and for your business. We appreciate it. 👍
I think you will be well pleased with it.
You guys are awesome! I really look forward to this product!
Thanks man! 👍
Thx for going over the details guys. I have your 828 already on my bike with breather bolts. Ordered the Transformer last week and looks like it shipped today. I will call if I run into any issues during install. Thanks.
Thank you for your business, I believe you are going to be well pleased with it. 👍
I'm glad you guys did this video and have an Arlen Ness backing plate in it. When I bought my bike it had the Big Sucker 2 on it. I can't stand how much it sticks out. When I can afford it I'll be upgrading to your Transformer and the naked 606 kit.
Good plan, I think you will be well pleased with that set up.
Appreciate the kind words. 👍
Thanks for this video. I didn’t understand before that the transformer goes behind the back plate.
Thank you for the feedback. 👍
We should have done a better job on the first video.
I am impressed with DY Customs so far. I bought the tank lift kit. Haven't installed it yet but it is beautifully finished. Wrote in with questions, Dwayne wrote back the same day. Excellent service. I just want to know where you are based because on Google Maps it looks like you are in the middle of the forest!
HAHA! 😂
We kind of are in the middle of the forest or the middle on no where.
We are in North Mississippi our address is:
198 McMullen Rd Hickory Flat, MS 38633
Thank you for your business and for commenting! 😎
Installing mine on the sporty today. Im going to need two transformers for my TC103 TBW bikes when they become available.
Very cool, we appreciate your business. 👍
The TBW version should be available soon.
Like it, solutions for all.
Thanks!
I really want one for my 2014 Electra Glide
We have the Transoformer available by itself at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/transformertm-external-breather-system-ebs-for-harley-twin-cam.htm
You would need to email Support@DKCustomProducts.com a picture of your backplate and air cleaner to make sure that it is compatible with your setup.
or
You can get it for a discounted price if you buy it with one of our air cleaners that you can see at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/air-cleaner-intake-c10-389.htm
If you have any questions feel free to contact our customer service team;
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
Great info. Thanks!
Thanks, glad to see you're finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍
Having the Transformer EBS and the 606 on my 2009 triglide for a few months now has gotten the attention of my older coworker with his 2016 "wet head" triglide he bought from copart salvage, we threw DKCustom parts all over it as I did mine he done the works on cooling mods , fast forward to the point I'm making about the EBS, we purchased a tune license for the mods installed from fuel moto and finally started the bike for the first time in 3 years , and did a cold start to water pump fan kick on tune session and I would bet over that 12 minutes of idle with love jug cooling fans on and watching the engine temp which never exceeded 240° around 2 Oz of something came out the hose which was just lying on the floor at this point and my Ole coworker looked at me and said " Damn that shit would have went right into my Throttle body and into my motor and I shook my head in silence as he sat smiling at the hose on the floor, thanks guys for another bike that will last a little longer while looking great with this setup 😀
Wow, great & informative comment. Thanks for sharing.
We do appreciate your business and glad you you and your coworker are getting benefits from the parts.
Very cool. 👍😎👍
Would like your external breather kit for a 2020 street glide with an Arlen ness big sucker stage I kit(no tuner), Mutazu megaphone slip ons, a vented oil dipstick With a breather filter run up on top of the throttlebody from A1 cycles as per instructions, and a 1 1/2 tank lift kit already installed.
You can call or email the shop to order, or you can go to the following link and order. www.dkcustomproducts.com/diy-external-breather-systems-408.htm
Appreciate your business.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
Your products are well made and great looking. The EBS catch can actually enhanced the look of my '04 Fat Boy. It is a conversation piece also when people ask, "what is that ?" I'll soon be going with your Transformer on my '07 Road King. Along with Torque Thrust Inserts and some other of your fine products.
PS, any idea about another open house in the future ?
Thank you for the good words. We appreciate your business and it is good to hear you are enjoying the parts.
We are looking at the 1st weekend in September for an open house...should be much better weather than the last one. 😀
I want a Transformer for my '23 M8, but I also want to keep the OEM air filter.
No can do.
You CAN run the Transformer on your '23 M8 and keep the OEM air filter cover!
Check out this link with photos of the stock cover with a HiFlow Intake- www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-complete-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-harley-milwaukee-eight-dk-ac606-nk-m8.htm
@@DKCustomProducts Awesome. Thanks.
@@DaveM111 You're welcome! Thanks for watching our videos. Ride safe!
Dwayne when you shortened your Barb length did you just take a hacksaw and cut it off shorter and how much.
Yes, a hacksaw to cut off a little more than 1/4" off the barb coming out of the Transformer™.
My 71fx engine has a 4 1/2 inch S&S stroker internals, branch flowed modified heads from a 72 shovelheads and I need your air cleaner system and what breather do you have for the engine, thanks for your good information
We don't have any air cleaners that fit the OEM 71FX, however, if you contact Dwayne (ask for him specifically) at Support@DKCustomProducts.com or 662-252-8828
He may be able to get one of our A/C's to fit.
He can also let you know which External Breather System will fit your ride.
Thank you for the comment, and good to hear you are finding the videos useful. 👍😎👍
Do you need a tune when you do an external breather...Assuming that Harley did factory tune accounting for breathing back into fuel injection system?
What year and model bike do you have?
Just bought a 2023 FXBBS 114.@@DKCustomProducts
You do not need to retune your M8 when adding and EBS. Here is a video you may find useful- ruclips.net/video/Lb_57Z_Ipms/видео.html
good job guys!!
Thank you! 👍
I got the transformer on my 2018 Ultra Limited the other day. I installed a 606 air cleaner on the transformer. It works fine. I checked the 6 screws on the back of the transformer before I installed it. 3 of the screws were loose. I took all the screws out and checked out the inside of the transformer. After checking it out, I used a little blue loctite and attached all 6 screws hand tight. One issue I did run into after installing the transformer was the engine warning light came on. I checked the codes and they were for the EMC front and back O2 sensors. I cleared the error codes and went for a ride. After about 30 minutes the engine light came on again. This time only for the rear O2 sensor. I cleared the code again. Road another hour and didn't have any issues. I'm guessing the EMC adjusted itself for the 606 high flow air cleaner. With the 606 air cleaner comes an attachment to use the original air cleaner cover. It makes the cover stick out an extra inch. It's noticeable and makes the ride a little uncomfortable. Not that I can't get use to it but I'm looking into getting another cover that would get rid of the attachment. Will the smooth chrome bobber cover fit over the 606? Does the smooth chrome bobber cover attached to the center hole in the air cleaner or do I have to use the attachment?
Thank you for your comment. 👍
I am very sorry three of the screws were loose. We will be changing our assembly process to include a double check on those 6 screws.
Yes, the ECM was making adjustments for more air flow. Here are a couple of videos on the subject where we talk about how this works.
ruclips.net/video/0vbTkRvFa80/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/aWW-nt7-fzA/видео.html
Regarding the cover. The only cover that needs that special HD attachment is the stock cover. You can use any of the other covers, including the smooth chrome bobber cover without that attachment, so it will not stick out nearly as far.
TBW...TBW.. waiting for the date to drop.
It's coming! 👍
I think people are asking if they can bolt the big sucker air filter and cover to this instead of using AN backplate. That’s what I was thinking I could do instead of buying your 606 backplate and EXB system but it looks like it’s smaller diameter than the base of my air filter for AN big sucker.
It would just be a cleaner look if it were possible.
You can use the 606 backplate with your filter element and cover, and the Transformer™ goes between the 606 backplate and the Carb or Throttle body.
The Transformer™ is an EBS, it is not designed to have any filter go directly against it.
So what is the purpose of this and what’s the benefits of it? Thanks
The purpose & benefits of any External Breather System are outlined in this video- ruclips.net/video/EfDeFZblMck/видео.html
The Transformer™ External Breather System gives all those benefits, plus the following:
1. It is a much cleaner looking set up than the traditional EBS's
2. It can be "transformed" to be EPA compliant, should a person want to do that, or should a person be compelled to do that by some local authority.
I have an S&S stealth air cleaner 170-0354B . Do you have a breather kit that works with this. Love your videos and want to support your business.
Yes, we do have a few options that fit that A/C. You can see them at the link below-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/diy-external-breather-systems-408.htm
Always feel free to email or call with any questions.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
I'm late on this one, what does this do?
You can see a video explanation at this link- ruclips.net/video/klM7XAAlkAE/видео.html
And a written explanation at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/catalog/product/view/id/1949/s/transformertm-external-breather-system-ebs-for-sportster-bt-evo/category/17/
Just changing the subject, in Australia we have about 65% of all our roads are dirt, gravel, when you get into the outback areas just about all roads are dirt, Is it possible to fit a Diff Locker to my Trike to help with steep inclines on dirt roads. All of our 4WD vehicles come with Diff Lockers as standard equipment.
Interesting question. That would definitely be interesting to have a diff lock on the HD Trikes.
Unfortunately we do not know if there is a way to do that. Never thought of it, nor heard of it. Does not mean it could not be done.
If you do figure it out, please let us know.
Also, if you figure it out, unlike on a 4WD vehicle where the downside to leaving it locked on a hard surface is a broken axle (bad) on the Trike it would greatly increase the possibility of tipping over (worse).
@@DKCustomProducts Yes, it can be done and I will do it. I will be doing lots of dirt roads on my trip around this huge island continent starting in about six weeks. Diff locks are common place here and are pretty easy to fit, just need the diff specs and a locker to match, should be easy. On our outback roads we have what we call bull dust, you cannot see it till its to late and it can be 6 inches deep or more and it is easy to roll your car, and that would be bad, i figure with a diff lock and a set of max trax I will be fine. I will let you know how I get on.
The design is great for the purpose. Wouldn't those tiny passages restrict the ventilation of the crankcase causing loss of power?
Thanks! 👍
No, the passageways are larger than some of the passageways in the engine as the crankcase ventilation heads toward the outside. No restriction in the Transformer™ at all.
Was just wondering if not evacuating the crankcase causes any power loss? If the pistons have to push all that trapped air through those tiny galleys it might
cause ring flutter at high rpms.
@@DKCustomProducts if the engine is sucking on the crankcase through a metered orifice it's understandable. Take away the PCV effect it creates, and now it's trying to vent through that same orifice without assistance. Personally I'd want some PCV action on a big inch Twin seeing high R's.
@@andrewbecker3700 No, the circulating theory of needing vacuum from the intake for better ring seal is just that, a theory. No tests or evidence as been posted showing that to be true.
The holes in the tubes in the intake (and subsequent passageways back to the crank case) are so small that the vacuum created in the intake takes the path of least resistance, pulling in thru the filter element.
btw, I've seen a couple of videos of folks trying to measure that phantom vacuum thru the venting system. They were both honest in disclosing that they could not get any measurable reading.
@@andrewbecker3700 No, the circulating theory of needing vacuum from the intake for better ring seal is just that, a theory. No tests or evidence as been posted showing that to be true.
The holes in the tubes in the intake (and subsequent passageways back to the crank case) are so small that the vacuum created in the intake takes the path of least resistance, pulling in thru the filter element.
btw, I've seen a couple of videos of folks trying to measure that phantom vacuum thru the venting system. They were both honest in disclosing that they could not get any measurable reading.
I want the air cleaner that was shown on the red Harley at 2.49 min. into your video. What is it called? Thank you.
That is an 828 w/ a Chrome Speed Fin Cover, Transformer and Billet Catch-Can. You can see it at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/chrome-speed-fin-complete-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-milwaukee-eight.htm
Ok, I have a 2016 SGS other than the Transformer what EBS do you recommend that will work with m S&S 170-0039 A/C.
TIA
Thanks for looking at our parts.
Any of them EBS's at this link will work- www.dkcustomproducts.com/diy-external-breather-systems-516.htm
How does it compare on a dyno vs just a backing plate. Such as a 606 with and without the transformer
Very little difference, not enough to feel the difference seat of the pants. It is a 1-3% increase with the Transformer™
What air cleaner & Cover is on the red bike ?
That is the Outlaw 828 w/ the Chrome Speed Fin Cover. You can see details on it, and more photos, at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/chrome-speed-fin-complete-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-milwaukee-eight.htm
Does a gasket go between the Transformer and the 828 outlaw backplate?
It does! The gasket that comes with your 828 goes between the 828 and the Transformer. There is another gasket that comes with the Transformer and goes between it and the throttle body.
Here is a video of an install of the Transformer that you may find useful- ruclips.net/video/1MfFCTu8w4M/видео.html
Here is a link to the details on the Transformer, and one of the tabs at this link is the installation instructions- www.dkcustomproducts.com/transformer-external-breather-systems.htm
Thanks for commenting! MB
@@DKCustomProducts perfect thank you! I got it installed last night along with the TTI, and deluxe 1.5” tank lift. Ran like a champ this morning. I’d like to purchase your PV tuner but unfortunately I’m in California. Thank for all the well thought out products you put out. You guys are the best!
Glad you are well pleased with all the products. Thank you for your support, business and for commenting! MB
I got my EBS and outlaw air cleaner today and I have to say very good quality….but, I wasn’t able to install it. The breather bolts and spacers don’t fit my 103.
Man, I am sorry about that. I see you sent an email in. Someone will be calling you shortly to get this resolved for you quickly. Again, my apologies.
I did send an email. Mistakes happen. Everything else lines up perfectly.
@@Stangmanjay I appreciate your patience, Melissa told me she talked with you and got everything taken care of.
Again, my sincere apologies.
@@DKCustomProducts Melissa was fantastic. She made the whole process very easy and I received the parts this afternoon. Top notch customer service.
@@Stangmanjay Thank you!
With this Transformer EBS with an Outlaw 587 setup work with my ported HPI 62mm TB and intake on a 2019 Triglide with M8 114?
Unfortunately it will not fit your set up! If you are looking for an EBS for the air cleaner you have now you can email our customer service at support@dkcustomproducts.com a picture of your Air Cleaner and backplate and they will help you pick out the correct one! Thank you for your comment!
@@DKCustomProducts I decided to give the Transformer EBS a test fit on my 2019 Triglide with an HPI 62mm throttle body and intake with the Outlaw 587. Luckily for me it fits perfectly with zero issues in @1500 miles of riding! I don't see a way to post a picture here, but if you would like one let me know.
I am so sorry that I miss informed you. Please send an email with pictures to Support@DKCustomproducts.com so that we can see the set up and make fitment notes for the future!
I am glad that is works and that you are liking it.
Thank you for your business and for letting us know! @@davidheder
I want to use the transformer but keep my classic S&S air cleaner cover, do I have any options? I have no problem changing my a/c and backing plate but I just want to continue to use my S&S cover!
Yes, you can use the 587 air cleaner with the Transformer, and your S&S Teardrop cover, will fit onto the 587 cover with you drilling and tapping that 587 cover to affix the S&S cover over it. We have quite a few Customers that have done that.
You don't say what year and model bike you have, but here is a link to the Twin Cam 587.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/complete-hiflow-587-air-cleaner-sano-black-for-harley-twin-cam-dk-ac587-blk-tc.htm
Always feel free to email or call with any questions.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
I have a 2016 SGS
Is this available for different size throttle bodies or is it only for the standard size throttle body for the M8?
It fits the standard size throttle body on the M8.
Every test we have done, all the way up to a 131, shows that more torque is produced with the standard size rather than a larger.
We have even dyno'd a couple of bikes with the larger throttle body, then put a standard size air cleaner on that larger throttle body, and it produced more power.
💪🇦🇺💪 THANKYOU ❣️
Thanks for the comment! 👍
Will this work on a 103 with a Kuryakin Hypercharger Pro air cleaner?
Yes, the back is flat with no ears, so it will mount up to the Transformer™. You will Not need to use the support bracket that comes with the Hypercharger.
I installed a Check m8 trans vent after a stage 2 upgrade (Cam, new oil pump) last year. I just installed your discrete EBS system with a filter....will this setup cause issues with loss of needed vacuum having both Check m8 and EBS? Thanks!
Many of our Customers have the trans vent installed and are still getting oily, hot, oxygen depleted air venting into their intake, which is a power robber AND makes the engine run hotter. So they have installed an EBS also. The EBS eliminates all of the oil and oxygen depleted air with only good results.
The recently circulating theory of needing vacuum from the intake for better ring seal is just that, a theory. No tests or evidence as been posted showing that to be true.
The holes in the tubes in the intake (and subsequent passageways back to the crank case) are so small that the vacuum created in the intake takes the path of least resistance, pulling in thru the filter element.
btw, I've seen a couple of videos of folks trying to measure that phantom vacuum thru the venting system. They were both honest in disclosing that they could not get any measurable reading.
@@DKCustomProducts Great response....thank you!
will a screaming eagle heavy breather work with your backplate?
If you have a Heavy Breather like the one pictured in the link below, the Transformer™ takes the place of the piece in the lower left of the photo and then it will work.
www.harley-davidson.com/content/dam/h-d/images/product-images/parts/batch-2/29400285/29400285_TT.tif?impolicy=myresize&rw=700
If you do not have a Heavy Breather yet, I would suggest looking at the 636v, it out performs the HB and has a similar look. Here is a link to where you can see them- www.dkcustomproducts.com/outlaw-hiflow-636v-air-cleaner-complete-systems-c125.htm
On a 07 dyna twin cam
@@gerrybubenzer5677 I am not seeing that Harley has any Heavy Breathers that fit a 2007 Dyna Twin Cam. I may be missing it.
The 636v will work. www.dkcustomproducts.com/outlaw-hiflow-636v-air-cleaner-twin-cam-complete-system-dk-ac-636v-tc-cs.htm
Or if you already have a Heavy Breather on your 07 Dyna, send a photo of it, or the part number to Support@DKCustomProducts.com and we'll let you know.
I just want to know 1 thing. Does it fit on the 2021 fxbbs 114. Yes or no.... cause i want to buy it.
The Transformer is not compatible with any OEM air cleaner on a M8.