Let's Visit the Minoan Palace Complex of Knossos - History Tour in AC: Odyssey Discovery Mode
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- We visit the island of Crete to cover the history of the Minoan civilization and delve into the depths of their most famed Palatial Complex of Knossos. I am joined by Josho Brouwers, an archaeologist and editor of Ancient World Magazine: www.ancientwor...
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Here is an article published by the archaeologist, Josho Brouwers, providing more details on the Minoans and Knossos: www.ancientworldmagazine.com/videos/assassins-creed-odyssey-exploring-knossos/
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Thanks! Will read it!
Instablaster...
Thebes next, the most ignored Greek Hegemony.
Yeah because Thebes got reduced to ash before the Romans came along.
Maybe because it lasted barely a few years before being crushed by the Macedonians.
Sparta!
@@Talematros Overrated .
@@Alexpascu2785g6 perhaps, but the five villages and such, there is more there than meets the eye imo :)
I really want to see someone digitally restore that whole complex. Like a mod that cleans it up and rebuilds, and refurnishes it.
Me tooooooo!!!! But evans ducked it up!!
Since Asassins Creed Infinite has multiple settings Id love the final setting to be either peak Minoan or Mycenean civilization with a Crete island with much more prevalent Isu artifacts.
I literally live 10 minutes by foot from the palace. I used to go there every weekend by myself when i was a uni student, since its free for students. It has a diffent aura. If relaxed me, i guess.
are there really that many buildings / ruins that remain? or did they add that in as a recreation?
@@marialadoucer9405 not many buildings are left standing today. Still worth visiting. Just take a ferry from Athens
Cool. I’ve been to the Palace with my family once.
I thought it was beautiful. We try to go to Crete ever year for holiday.
We have a lot of friends over there. We know two Billy’s, both that live in Stalis.
One owns a pub called the Red Lion and the other own a hotel called Filia, run by Crazy Billy.
@@marialadoucer9405 if you like to see the best of Minoan civilization go to the museum in Heraklion.
It's one of the best museum displays i have ever seen.
Isn’t most of the site s recreation/restoration?
i do wish there was more known to us about ancient Greece, it's such a fascinating section of the world, even when you remove the tales of gods, monsters and heroes.
Apparently their diet mainly consisted of giant octopus.
Charybdis only became a myth after the Minoans threw one too many sushi buffets...
They are still eating it today. I saw them hanging on lines by the beach
I visited Knossos, it’s really beautiful. They have a nice balance of the original ruins and some reconstructions.
I hope to visit too...
I visited Knossos at least four times, it’s amazing
What do you do lol
Daplin1 basically revisit the same places and fantasize about how they lived there. Then I start to think about our future and how probably someone is going to visit our ruins in two or three thousand years and wonder about the same. I easily get lost in my thought ;D
@@sangay9361 do you asume that the internet will be lost or that humanity will evolve so far that its no longer able to read whats written there now? :o
seel fire i assume that 99.99% of all documents we now consider important, won’t exist in 3000 years. By then they will only have kept the most important bits. I mean, “digging” up memes is good and all, but they won’t care for such stuff then
Sangay Dude, we get excited over receipts and invoices on cuneiform tablets. future archeologists will flip over memes
Good work, as for your comment at the beginning:
2013 archeogenetics study compared skeletal mtDNA from ancient Minoan skeletons that were sealed in a cave in the Lasithi Plateau between 3,700 and 4,400 years ago, to 135 samples from Greece, Anatolia, western and northern Europe, North Africa and Egypt.They found that the Minoan skeletons were genetically very similar to modern-day Europeans-and especially close to modern-day Cretans, particularly those from the Lasithi Plateau. They were also genetically similar to Neolithic Europeans, but distinct from Egyptian or Libyan populations.
A 2017 archeogenetics full genome sequencing study of Minoan remains published in the journal Nature concluded that the Mycenean Greeks were genetically closely related with the Minoans, and that both are closely related, to modern Greek populations.
Therefore the theory that they were pre-Greeks seems to hold major scientific water.
Indeed. And the claim that Linear A must be something else other than Greek- supported by plenty of lazy academia- is not based on any hard evidence or thorough linguistics. They simply haven't identified the language and yet insist on claiming that it isn't Greek. For 50 years many lazy scholars claimed Linear B was not Greek, again without any evidence, until Michael Ventris in the 50's proved Linear B is Greek!!!
@@gs032009 no area of science is without its localized biases or theories barely holding it together just because they are convenient (looking at the big bang in astrophysics for instance or the convenience of the umbrella term ''Phoenicians'') but its important to move on.
Remember it wasn't long ago Scandinavian anthropologists insisted on all sorts of white supremacy ..uhm...feces .. as the valid racial truth for instance.
Meh they probably were semites either north western or south western even the representation of their gods are pretty identical with the gods of semites who lived in the same time period
@@AMR_k400 you mean Phoenicians? Semites had not fully emerged yet. In any case, they compared dna with people from that geographical area as well as various groups from Egypt and Anatolia and there were no matches.
@@Biopunked modern anatolia is nothing similar to the ancient one neither did i claim anatolians are semitic and native Egyptians are not semite but hamite
These videos are so good. The AC footage, while not necessarily to scale or always accurate, really helps one imagine what things looked like.
No one was dressed like Minoans.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 indeed...trying to imagine the fine female attire that had the breasts exposed. Their culture perhaps saw human anatomy distinctly different from 21st century values.
@@edoedo8686 They are censoring everything these days!
@@edoedo8686 And also implied they were a matriarchal society.
For anyone interested on a more detailed description of Minoan society, they should read Phoenician Secrets by Sanford Holst
I've always wanted to go to Crete. AC Odyssey just made me want to go more
I live there!
Take a ferry from Athens
@@worldcitizeng6507 ferrys in greece are way too expensive. Plane only takes 40 minutes and better views and way cheaper
I’ve been to Crete lots of times.
I strongly recommend going.
Best Island. Go there in the spring, April/May when all the wildflowers are in bloom. The sights and smells....divine.
Its really nice that he just goes pointing out all the little details while you walk around. Its nice to see him aknowledging the games details even for its over exagerations.
I've been there! Beautiful remains. I think it's the best conserved painted walls of the ancient Greek architecture.
Sad. I was really sad when I found out it’s not original. Evans did it.... and I feel like he did a very shitty job. He imagined most of the stuff we see, that’s the vibe I’m getting/
Just south of Knossos there is a very old wine area. Archanes. They started making wine 2500 bc. And they still make wine there. Good wine!
This was amazing! Make more videos like this with archeologists please if possible! :)
Thanks! I'll definitely be looking to explore more areas. Any suggestions?
@@InvictaHistory Well... how about Thera then? :) If I remember there were also some ruins there. Or maybe the island of Naxos?
Hislarik/Troy, Sparta, Alexandria/The Pharos lighthouse?
I love these kinds of videos! I am a huge fan of the AC games although they're sometimes not quite historically accurate. Perhaps they should bring in more historians while making the games :D
Kudos to Mr. Brouwers for giving a very accurate account of what is currently believed historically regarding the Minoan civilization. Not Mr. Brouwers but I'd like to see a complete separation of Greek lore (Minator, etc) from Minoan descriptions. Greek methodology is Greek mythology, lets not try to find things in Minoan civilization based on Greek methodology with zero historical basis unless a bull painting constitutes proof of Greek lore.
4:18 but also..... OPIUM.
Okay.... lol
Very glad Josho Brouwers was able narrate this. Excellent and illuminating knowledge.
I really love this series, its very nice to just listen to while doing other stuff
EXCELLENT idea. Way to bring it to life. I hope you make other tours like this one.
Impressive, no way a traditional journalist could handle playing a game while also conducting a live interview
Lol, cuphead
Honestly Invicta, I can sit back and watch your videos for hours. Absolutely one of the best history channel’s out there. Your passion really shows through the quality and effort you put into your videos. Always highly educational and entertaining. The AC videos are some of my favourites, a perfect balance of fiction with historical fact.
You've been on fire with the videos lately. Fantastic work
Brilliant video! Upvoted. Please do more AC Odyssey with these historians. Do the daily life and other tours!
I was there a few days ago. Fascinating place, but the sun was BRUTAL. The guide asked our tour group if we wanted to stand in the sun in a long line to see the throne room or move on. We all wanted to move on, so we missed that. Bring water, wear sunscreen and buy a hat.
Exactly a year after I needed this type of information for school, this is uploaded.
Still gonna watch it tho. No pressure for good grades now.
You did this in school lol?
@@lindleytrueblood5413 Yep
@@vuxigeck5281 wow lucky
I am glad the "grade" game did not kill your love of learning...
@@vuxigeck5281 what grade
Amazing video and great “interview”, mister Brouwers definitely knows a lot. I would love to see more of these kind of “fact/representation check” videos and I look further to more cooperations between you and the guys from ancient world magazine
Thank you so much for this!!! We're doing a project at my art school in which I'm illustrating the first book of the Aeneid and this is going to help so much for colors and architecture! I know Minoan and Mycenaean culture isn't exactly the same, but they are very similar. So again, thank you!!
Ahhh, this is beyond good! Excellent conversation and visuals, the game is ok, but the locations are spectacular.
720p again, I guess it's a pattern.
Again though very interesting. I've been studying a lot about this era and it is very interesting to see it represented in 3d.
Titan Quest was the first game that enabled me to visit the palace digitally. The overall design, even though it wasn't that accurate, gave me the feeling, goosebumps and nostalgia of that ancient era. Games can be very effective for exploring the past.
these videos particularly the harbor one made me buy a ps4 and asscreed odyssey it's a damn good game
Listening to this while walking around the site 🙌 perfect combo
These videos are amaaaaazing! I love these!
This is amazing ! I am studying history now and what is stated here and explained was highly true and match with almost with other websites and what we studied in university.
Visited Knossos this summer, breathtaking place. Loving the videos!
*I truly love these let's visit videos!*
That was great! very enjoyable format
When I played the game this was one of the highlights.
Amazing, Ubisoft have done an amazing life on LITERALLY bringing history to life
I love Cretan history.
Thank you for these videos!
I love this. It really takes me there.
I would like to suggest a reason for the erection of walls at a later stage of settlement: Other Cretan centers arose, and these regional centers started to raid each other.
Let me know what you'd like to see next! Here is a link to the rest of our history tours in the Assassin's Creed series: ruclips.net/p/PLkOo_Hy3liELnL_0p7__5gj6EzsNFLhgJ
I don't know enough about Assassin's Creed, but it's so cool looking at history through the video game, which is so well developed. I never knew. I think you would know better. I mean, me personally, I would love to know what Mesopotamia looked like if it has that.
Nice 👍🏼 Bronze Age Crete is my favorite ancient civilization!
Beautiful. If only we could know more about the Minoans 😭
How many generations lived in that Knossos palace?
Great video man! I miss your online total war battles though haha
Part 2 of roman evolution of legionaries we are waiting for 2/3 years now
never expected to have to watch an AC Oddysey game to study for my Archeology exams for my university :DD Thanks for the vid
Ive literally just got back on the coach after visiting the palace
Would recommend it to anyone
What a clever way to teach history so far it seems accurate I enjoy this thank you for sharing
Very interesting presentation. Even though the graphics are "Hollywood style", with quality guidance, there is enough real stuff to make it possible for us to imagine their world.
I first became interested in the Minoan civilisation through the works of the Ramones who were wrote a couple of songe about bronze age Cretan culture
Ramones>romans
"Having their breasts exposed"
*Insert lenny face*
I learn more than I knew in this video
I think I will stand a bit more on the connection between Minoans and Greeks. Although Minoans are not considered "Greeks" so to speak by many people, on the other hand Greeks have a good claim when they say they are their descendants (even dna wise). In the end the Greeks (especially in Crete) adopted many of the customs of Minoans and really incorporated them into their culture. That's why we consider them part of our history and not something foreign and there are many things that support that like the fact that even their alphabet was modified for the first written Greek language or that they appear in many tails of mythology, sometimes even as part of the Greek identity. So yes, they were not originally considered Greeks as with many other tribes but they eventually are part of what created the Greek identity (similar to many other instances of such close peoples) and they are thus part of our rich history.
Όχι φιλε, δεν έγινε έτσι, οι Μινωίτες σκλαβώθηκαν απο τους ερχόμενους Μυκηναίους, και όσοι μείνανε, πήρανε τα βουνά σε απόμερα οχυρωμένα σημεία, που τα φτάνουν μόνο οι γύπες. Πχ ο οικισμός της Αζοριάς, η Δρήρος, ο οικισμός στο Καρφί, το Βρόκαστρο κτλ κτλ (το Καρφί πχ, το εγκαταλείψανε κοντά στα 750 πΧ, και είχενε 3000 κατοίκους στο ζενίθ του)
didn't the Greeks actually write very negatively about the Minoans? They pretty made them out to be monsters who fed young Athenian men and women to a giant bull-man (the product of a bestial affair the queen had with Poseidon's bull) that was imprisoned beneath their palaces. The Greeks made the Minoans out to be blood-thirsty, power-hungry heathens who were _enemies_ of Greece (and in power over them). What do you say to that?
@@Red_Leviathan I'd say that, that is completely incorrect. We can see that from Thucydides's (probably botched the spelling there, I always do with ancient names) mythological/real accounts of their period, that even long gone, their memory somewhat existed through myth and legend.
He states, that king Minos, created a great fleet and army, with which he cleared the Aegean from piracy, and threw away the people of Karia from the islands colonising them for themselves, finaly bringing them to stability, peace and prosperity. Plus, only the fact that Minos himself, was son of their head God, and also head judge of the dead in the underworld, is enough to show how much he was appreciated, and how much powerfull he really was. After all in his supposed reign, the Island prospered. He built great palaces and monumental structures (Labyrith, Knossos Palace), brought peace and prosperity to the whole Aegean through his great fleet, had personal relations with the gods, since we know that every a certain time, Minos supposedly went to the Dictaion Cave to recieve the laws with which he would govern his Kingdom from Zeus himself (he was his son after all), and had a giant bronze robot to protect his island from attack, Talos, made by the chief smith god, Hephaestus.
The case of the bull, was after all only a Hubris occasion, something that happens all the time in ancient greek Mythology with great and powerfull rulers, and even more with people descended from gods, (since he refused to sacrifice that white bull his wife f*cked, to Poseidon, causing the sea-god to make the wife want to f*ck it in the first place, because Minos pissed him off with that action, and which led to the birth of Minotaur. So it actually isnt even just his fault, but rather Poseidon as well, who started it and caused it. After all the bull incident, happened because Minos wanted to show how close his relations were with the gods, that asked for Poseidon to send him such a bull to sacrifice, which he then didn't though, but Poseidon replied. Something no other king of the era could boast, such a personal relationship with the gods). As for the youths the Minotaur ate, that again a way to showcase Crete's power in the mythological era, and that Minos did what he wanted. And thats not even something dark, there are Greek kings in the mainland that did even worse and darker things in Mythology. And again Minos was one of the Judges of Hades after death, so again, litteraly the most respected rurel of Greek mythology, and basicaly a god-king.
Plus, how can the actions of an arrogant and divine ruler correspond to the people themselves?
As for the enemies of Greece, let me remind you, that Minos's grandson was Idomeneus, the Cretan warlord who fought alongside Agamemnon and Odysseus in the Trojan war, so thats pretty much enough to show that werent only just friends, but basicaly Greeks. Only Greeks sided with the Greeks in the Trojan war.
And historicaly, it is the Myceneans that conquered the Minoans, not the other way around, so who are the bloodthirsty c*nts after all? (Though, truth be told, we did perform human sacrifices in the late Minoan Age, but in that period, the Minoans saw their empire collapse from natural disaster, and there was also the imminent Mycenean invasion. So they'd whould have surely thought, theirs gods were pretty much pissed with them, and that needed to be adressed drasticaly to appease them. So the Minotaur's diet might be a memory of that passed through myth, but I dont know. But they definitely didnt think of them as heathens, rather legendary status, world class god related superpower that could do whatever the f*ck wanted, since the only greater power than them in the mythological greek world, were the gods themselves.
The complex of buildings with different functions around a central rectangular court reminds me of similar multifunctions complexes from Mesopotamia (IIIrd millenium B.C.).
Society needs more people who are cultured and passionate about intellectual subjects such as these. So sick of stupid people who know nothing and are proud to be dumb.
I'm from Crete hehe What a wonderful place:)
But have you ever heard, O traveler, of the Minotragos? Legend says they've been walking into the same wall since the dawn of Kronos... and to this very day, in fact...
minotauros*
@@TheHunterOfYharnam watch the video... Did you catch at least one goat eternally walking into the wall? How... *tragoic*
@@MrCantStopTheRobot oh no i didn't watch it all
I hope rockstar makes a game set in ancient rome.
If this is how to get kids into great historical topics, it
Good
Thank you! I enjoy this videos so much:)
Cool, I live 5 kms from the palace ;) And the road next to me is named Evans ;p
Oh wow that is really awesome! I'd love to visit the site.
The Minoans were the 1ST Greeks and were Indo-European ancestors of Medes and Persians in Anatolia who moved into Crete and mixed their religion with ancient local religious beliefs
The Mycenaeans took over Crete to assist after the natural disasters , they were asked by Minoans to come and reestablish order
I love these ones so much :)
Is that a website where you can run through the site?
I was in crete last week, on friday i visited the palace
The minoans where greeks minos was a judge in the underworld they participated 8n the troyan war with the others greeks . Minos was a priest king he went up a mountain and came down with written laws.
I used to live very close to there. Further down, on the right near the Buffalo Wild Wings.
19:47 look at the goat lol
Is it just me or is the frame rate for this video stuttering and slow? I can't really tell, but stutter makes me dizzy, and this video seems to be doing that. >.
kind of funny, I think the original Tomb Raider used that exact same Dolphin fresco in the Neptune key challenge of level 5 "St Francis Folly"
what was interpreted LINEAR B tablet, in fact was an ancient form of GREEK language
Thank god I am not the only one, I skipped around and heard more bullshit, the creatans in no way were war like the size of the island and resources available couldn't allow that there wasn't enough man power. They were a trading folk with some naval dominance and next to impossible to invade from a logistical and geographic standpoint so people let Minoans do their thing. It was only after Thera started acting up and the island became destabilized by title waves and earthquakes and only then did the mycenae take over and even then they pretty much puppet stated them. Actually Minoan trading goods can be found as far as Babylon and the island was a trading centre. The stuff about minoan society and ladies was true but there was obviously a focus on Male energy with the bull leaping.
@@480yolofordonuts7 women also participated in bull leaping
@@480yolofordonuts7 is it so hard to accept that women had a pivotal role in their society? Fragile masculinity at its best. Go read and search more, and you'll find a lot of evidences that women were quite present in their society.
@@Historicaladdicted what do you mean? How is this by any means toxic? The bull leaping ritual was a practice they partook in to please what's suspected to be the mother godess. Probably with the female priests overlooking them. Clearly the male "energy" was valued in a once again suspected matriarchal society. Matriarchal or patriarchal every society needs a balance of both "energies"
@@Llloame really? Do we have historical record from the Egyptians, Hitties, or any other "civ" around that time claiming they saw it? Or is there art if them depicting it that I just missed? Can you send links?
Πήγα στα konosos όταν έζησα στην Κρήτη πριν από περίπου 16 χρόνια. Η Ελλάδα είναι σαν το δεύτερο σπίτι μου kai Δεν έχω παίξει ακόμα τη δολοφονία των δολοφόνων
I like using game visuals to illustrate some real-world history!
Well in that case definitely check out the rest of the videos in this series: ruclips.net/p/PLkOo_Hy3liELnL_0p7__5gj6EzsNFLhgJ
Any chance of a video about the early Aegean civilization/temple complex recently discovered at the island of Keros? Edit: mistakenly labeled Keros as Delos
Justin Courtois
That would be nice as the the Cycladic Civilization was sophisticated for its time; with the Civilization starting between roughly ~3500-3200BC. It had stone buildings that were multi-storied, with impressive staircases and drainage systems. As well, they were metallurgically capable and were maritime seafarers that shipped huge quantities of building materials, and traded extensively. They produced pottery and beautiful, high quality abstract sculptures, some even life size ( ruclips.net/video/epwk71maFRc/видео.html ).
- “...architectural findings of Kavos on the island of Keros in the Cycladic Islands group confirmed the existence in Early Cycladic times of a complex, stratified and technically expert society.”
- “remains of the culture at the time include “impressive staircases, drainage pipes and stone buildings that reveal an advanced urban architecture without precedence for the specific period.”
- “The complicated, interlinked and multi-level architecture shows the existence of a well-organised and well-built settlement on a steep promontory,”
- “According to co-excavator professor Colin Renfrew, Daskalio shows that the building techniques that were applied, the existence of huge entrance gates, stone ladders and the drainage pipes throughout the island show that there must have been a specialist architect and a central administration to carry out the building programme. He said the complexity of the construction is only comparable to Knossos on Crete for the same early period, he said.”
( www.thenationalherald.com/241555/early-cycladic-society-on-keros-noted-for-architectural-wonders/ )
dear Josho, dont you write for Karwansaray Publishers as well?
I was looking for palace and those are ruins only :( Minoans are my favorite ancient culture.
Same. Shame they’re only ruins
why is it not in 1080p? Love the videos btw keep up the good work =)
Bethany Hughes did a pretty good documentary on the Minoans, I'd recommend anybody to go check it ut here on youtube if you're interested in that aspect of Greek history :)
This is amazing
Can you do one of Odysseuss’s palace
Weird that the AC folks got so much wrong in this game, given how accurate they were with much of what was seen in AC Origins in Egypt. I have heard that they got the Pyramids and other sites down really really closely to real life, from multiple archaeologists who have worked on or around the Giza plateau.
I've been lucky enough to visit Crete Via a ride from the navy and it was beautiful. And there was a small riot I guess they don't like Albainians on their Island people were throwing bycicals lol.
Please do one video on ancient Corinth.
Apparently the Dolphin fresco is represented in the game at Knossos but I can't find it😢
Since you are there could you cover the kidnapping of the german general in crete during ww2? That s a cool story! 🤗 More people should know about it
Οι έμποροι μας κατευθύνονται προς την Αίγυπτο.
as greek i never been at crete.i feel so ashame watching crete from a game :P
it's very probable they worshipped the bull because at that time they were in the age of taurus, if you go to egypt at that time the goddess isis also has a 'crown' of the bull horns and in between the horns is a circle wich represents the sun
Maybe the Cretan holes are for making dye?
The Minotavros' tail looks like a broom stuck to his bum...and he's trying to get it out. 😂😂😂😅😅
It's said by many that King Soloman was the REAL historical person they p[atterned King Minos after.
so the game is called, AC Odyssey?
The Minoans(ancient Cretans) were the Proto-Greeks
no they werent, mycenaeans were the proto greeks
4:18 that awkward pause lol
The Minoans(Μινωίτες) just like the Mycenaeans(Μυκηναίοι) where 100% Hellenes(Έλληνες)! Genetic research has confirmed that claim biologically as well during the last few years.