KungFu vs Karate
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2021
- There are several kinds of martial arts forms, and Kung Fu and Karate stand out as two of the most popular in the world. To the untrained eye, Kung Fu and Karate might look the same, no thanks to the thousands of martial arts movies that have graced our screens over the past decades.
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Kung Fu vs Karate?
cool
I'm still your biggest fan
I've literally been waiting all day for your post. That's how much I'm dedicated.
kung fu wins all day
Kung Fu is a fluid art of relaxation and power controls.
Karate is a hard devastating power and defense of anger or tense.
The Winner is the Martial Artist.
As my taekwondo teachers used to say: there is no superior martial art, only superior martial artists.
I like to think its an 80/20 difference 80 percent mental and 20 percent physical use both to the best and you've hopefully won a match or protected yourself
#FACTS
Very well said. As my instructor used to say is. I know people in every style and everyone of them will hurt you bad.
@@Ryooken yes sir they sure will..im 34 yrs old now i lost my mom at the age of 17 she was an over protective mother she never let me take any kimd of self defense classes..i want to learn traditional karate to the best i can and greco Roman wrestling...i think those two put together would be a very effective combination
@@adamhawkins3036 Should be pretty good combo. I am almost 54 years old and my father started training me when I was 7. I studied Kenpo, Tae Kwan Do, and Tai Chi Chuan.
What Bruce was talking about is ----- avoid separation. Learn the techniques from everything - and use the skills from them all where needed, and where effective.
False Bruce only wanted the best most effective moves.
@@dustincobb5718 I can understand 'effective'. But 'best' requires definition - because it will depend on circumstances and situation. And in problem solving, there sometimes may be various moves which are all equally effective for a particular situation or condition.
@@southpark4151 right some moves are just trash.
@@dustincobb5718 'trash' also requires definition - so a particular move used in a particular situation needs to be considered. Depends on what that 'choice' or move is.
Not all moves are needed when your formless like water and always evolving one style is gonna have a better move vs another styles for different situations is what Bruce was saying he was going pick the best move for that situation.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." Mike Tyson
Or none, once they get their ear chewed off.
If only you knew how many times I’ve (and I’m sure many others) have seen this plastered on RUclips comment sections….
Now there's a good answer 😂😂😂
Surprisingly deep for Tyson. I assume he heard someone corrupt the military "plans only survive until first contact." True enough though.
Straight fact lol, I've done it once in mid school, I don't even try to dodge, simply just tanking and swinging like a mf
I trained in Lau Gar Kung Fu for 7 years from the age of 5 to 12. It was more geared to responding and stopping your opponent rather than hurting them. It definitely helped me through school, in some cases I had to use it and managed to fend off the bullies.
However, despite being trained I knew there were some kids I wouldn't be able to beat if things kicked off. Thankfully they avoided me after seeing I could defend myself.
Just luck, one day you will face a bully and it wont go down like the bs you have been fed, because this bully perhaps likes to fight, does so regularly, doesn't care if he gets beat up, wont stop cause he just likes to fight. Its not the win or lose, Its that you make the stand that matters, have this in your head, so when the bully wrecks you one day, you wont be wrecked mentally afterward.
@@sword-and-shield It's funny because the bully you describe is pretty much every bully I dealt with. Nothing lucky about using my combat knowledge to counter the enemy. That "bs" you speak of stopped me getting bodied.
As for you though, I'm getting the impression you got pretty spanked as a kid. Maybe if you stopped calling things "luck" and "bs" you'd start handing some ass back.
@@stef2090 What is funny is you think because something works against some mutt it means its golden. So that bs I speak of, is bs, doesn't mean it wont work against some mutt. Absolutely got spanked, AND kicked ass, grew up hanging with an older crowd, hell I took an ass kicken just to play backyard football with em and get crushed even more. Grew up street fighting, regularly, and I was a bouncer in rank bars for 10 years. You got nothing to enlighten me with kid, I was trying to help.
Hey dude where did you practise Lau Gar at?I am a Hung Gar practisioner
And also know some Lau Gar forms etc that my Sifu was taught by some dude in the Lau family lineage living in Hawaii I think it was but dont remember his name.But he really changed the whole understanding of how to use and link your whole body in every blow and technique,specially with staff.Its a really cool style and has alot of similarities with Hung Gar.
There is no better fighting skill, there is only better fighter.
Yeah, sure.
That's why all these tai chi / kung fu / other esoteric bullshit VS muay thai / wrestling / MMA ends with 50/50 wins. ROTFL :)
exactly! Is only a westerner belief that one martial art is better frome one other! the omportant thing is the training and the experience of the fighter on a battle field
my gung-fu instructor said it like this. he said there is no form better than another. he said what makes the difference is that in martial arts which is gung-fu (not kung-fu or karate) is that movements are superior. And that is bc true martial arts which is PaQua kuntao style from Southern China royal blueblood who inherit and protected it with each destruction and rebuilding of the Shaolin temple's many destructions.
I understand your "better fighter" (from my perspective as a martial artist) perception bc if anyone practices a punch, kick or whatever, they are going to be able to use it if needed. So the better fighter trained more, would you say as a point of agreement? I remember when I met my gung-fu instructor at 18 yrs old. He was 16 yrs old. He was the first in the entire history of martial arts that was promoted by the grandmaster to a master prior to 12 years of consecutive training.
The rule of entry from ancient Shaolin tradition is 6 yrs old. Upon acceptance he must train 12 consecutive years to be a master. that way there are no masters of gung-fu in the LS golden royal gung-fu federation that is below the age of 18. My instructor was the first and a black man. I wrote the first book on what happened to bruce lee and his son entitled "What (really) happened to Jun Fun Lee?" Init I explain what martial arts is. If you would like a copy then follow me and I will let you know when it is released. I plan on shocking the world with it.
@@dorozina or Bruce lee jee kun do?
Exactly.
I've done karate on and off for a couple of years throughout my life, I'm pretty much a complete beginner, but I did learn a bit. The main thing about karate seems to be optimization of movement. You keep your hands far out so you can block hits, you stand in a way that makes you able to dodge, punch or kick with a single movement, the techniques are designed to be as fast, un-telegraphed and interchangeable as possible, and rather than using your strength to impact, you coil yourself like a spring to strike using the torsion of your body, or you direct your entire bodyweight into your strike. A twelve year old child can send a grown man stumbling with one of these punches if done correctly. A huge disadvantage I found is that karate is usually taught as a sport, rather than a self defense martial art, which means that it only really works if your opponent fights in a comparable way, you can't really beat a guy at chess if he's playing bowling. If you fight somebody who's gonna punch you, karate is a pretty nice advantage. If you fight someone who's gonna tackle you, you're done when he gets closer than your arm length. There is really no grappling in karate. I always envied those aikido users, who can break your arm and make it look like an allemande
U should watch this tuber- jesse enkamp- , he breaks down some misconception this same video makes. Also maybe u ll like - Martial Arts Journey - , an ex aikido instructor who talks about his experiences with it. Hope u enjoy em as much as me.
I studied Taekwondo for a bit and it's similar to Karate. Anyway, you can definitely use both forms for self-defense.
Also, don't rely only on what you've been taught; fee free to improvise and cherry pick from other disciplines. In a fight to defend your life or the life of a loved one, you will use whatever you have.
The last thing you want is to put some drunken wreck in a coma because you kicked him or punched him too hard and get done for manslaughter. This is why grappling is more probable as self defense. Not only are you protecting yourself from harm, your also protecting the drunken wreck from his head bouncing of the concrete like a basketball. Martial arts is considered a weapon and must be used with precautions. In MMA no martial art is better, but some are more probable.
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You say " If you fight somebody who's gonna punch you, karate is a pretty nice advantage. If you fight someone who's gonna tackle you, you're done when he gets closer than your arm length. There is really no grappling in karate. I always envied those aikido users, who can break your arm and make it look like an allemande"...If you actually believe this, then keep it off the street and in the dojo, because reality is far different, and the street separates the bs very fast.
I did Karate for 20 years and kung fu for 30 days. Definitely I found kung fu more complicated. However if I stayed with kung fu longer I might have been able to achieve a lot more with it. Nice conclusion. Both have merits and you cant say one is better than another. nice doc
Me karate 3 years i tink. Kong fu 3 days i tink. But i tink i didn't complete kong fu.
lol.
Kung Fu is better just because the fact - it's not a martial art.
Kung Fu is "skill"
and being generally skilled is way better than just karate.
Also 7000 years of brains and experience vs 200 of just chasing power.
But YES it's true that fighters define it TOO. Yet it's Kung Fu more worth of anyone's attention.
Asking which martial art is best is like asking which colour is best. What is best is what fits the fighters build, age, fitness, flexibility, personality. If it works for you that's your style.
There is no better martial arts.. Just better fighters!.. My father taught me Wing Chun and Shito-ryu Karate, ever since I was old enough to walk.. I'm a 105 pound Japanese girl.. I have since went on to learn Thai Kickboxing, Jujitsu and now learning MMA with a local school that broadcasts locally.. My father always said "Always be willing to learn anything that teaches you to defend yourself, no matter where it is from".. He was the most amazing fighter, a legend in Tokyo, then Vancouver.. He inspired me to embrace every style I can, and create my own fighting style, just as he did.
RIP Dad!!.. You were a legend!
God bless you, and best wishes for your bright future
🔱 JAI SHREE MAHAKAAL 🔱
@@lordkhalifaaa1562 Thank you!
@@lunamaria1048 ✨💛⚡
It depends on the person skill and intelligence. The one who is stronger mentally and is fearless will come out on top.
agreed ....styles mean nothing. It's about the individual
Great answer
@@jameswilliams0605 contrary and typically speaking it takes 5 forms to make a style in order for it to be martial arts. (tiger, leopard, crane, dragon and snake) Those 5 forms are Shaolin-style animals that were really never in Northern Shaolin but southern Shaolin. They took the place of the original 36 chambers (forms, weapons, etc) of Northern Shaolin before martial arts was banned from Northern Shaolin and China. that is the only reason it is still standing after many demolitions. Each animal form contains several forms (sometimes dozens of forms since each animal takes a lifetime committment to learn) It takes 3-6 years to learn any karate system of self-defense bc it is not gung-fu that takes 12 years to reach master status and never learn everything
The one who is wise, will come out on top. There's no better teacher than experience.
@@tylerlandrum1297 that is not true. experience is definitely not the best teacher bc it strictly involves trial and error. No, a mentor is the best teacher bc knowledge reigns over error. The norm is error.
In MA/Gung-fu/WuShu the movements are superior and they win out every time. But with kung-fu and karate, the winner is the one who practiced the most.
But these guys don't know martial art so wisdom has nothing to do with it since without the knowledge of chi it's just exercise for the time you do it. Chi (by zen) is everlasting but weight training wears the body down after a while
When Chinese martial arts were introduced to Okinawa, Okinawa was an independent "Ryukyu Kingdom".
It is said that the ancient Okinawan martial arts "手=hand" was fused with the martial arts introduced from China to become "唐手=karate".
Thank you Okinawan people to giving the right answer :). I traveled one time in Okinawa (Naha, and around only), and Loved it. People are great there, music and food too :). If only all the police of the world know the origin of their "tonfa" they would probly know a little more about this archipelagos and ancient Kingdom and culture.
It's really hard to tell which style is the best. It all mainly depends on how high you mastered the style you practise
"In the real sense of the word, 'kung fu' refers to any individual achievement that is cultivated, nurtured or gained by sheer hard work." Thank you for saying/stating this here clearly [and for the whole amazing job creating this video and sharing so much knowledge with a wider public! All the best & greetings from Wroclaw, Poland :)
'If you're more interested in inflicting pain...' YES!
Some Wu shu techniques were used in war and are lethal. Just saying.
Including yourself by broking your joins with Funakoshi (shotokan) modern karate ^^. happily traditionnal ryukyuan karate is nearer from other chinese and indian martial arts and take care of pactitionner
Appreciate your take on the Chinese and Japanese martial arts. I have extensive martial arts experience [more than 50 years as a practitioner and teacher, including substantial training in Japanese, Chinese and Korean martial arts. I appreciate your clarification of "kung fu" as meaning "serious practitioner" rather than a specific style. The term "kung fu" itself doesn't specifically refer to martial arts, although it has come to mean that to many people. The term "wushu" is, in modern times, usually applied to tournament and competition practice, rather than applied arts. Karate is also a "common term" for all Japanese punching and kicking arts and tends to lump together Okinawan arts (like isshinryu and shorinryu) with mainland arts (like shotokan). I appreciate your distinction between circular and linear power, but when you start to extrapolate to ease of learning and power production, I think you are missing some important points.
Yes,very true. I did do Danzan Jujitsu that Bruce Lee learned off of Wally Jay, Hakuakai Karate from Soke Bernard Edwards, 7 Stars Mantis from my Uncle Brendan Lai and Kuntao and Silat from The De Thaours Brothers. I did a little Choy Li Fut but the instuctor was not giving the objectives and only forms and never really the concepts behind the forms. Plum Blossom ring a Bell. Anyways I am no expert at these but I am proficient enough to kill with them. I have seen better and worse. The only thing I can tell you is that the outcome of any battle is not predictable when strategy is involved. Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge.-Lao Tzu. ALL war is Deception-Sun Tzu. Kung Fu to me and from my experience is very deadly and faster than Karate and Judo and many jujitsu because they can stop root movements and break fulcrums quickly to instantly and have many deadly submissions. I served in MARSOC and they use concepts and no longer name the systems. The US military uses Ninjutsu mixed with Jujitsu and Silat. Known as MCMAP in the US Marines or MACP in the US Army. LINE was Kung Fu and was used by the Green Beret up until and was retired in 1997 by Ron Donvito. However, Ninjutsu is already in the Syllabus of many Ancient Chinese Martial Arts as is Jujitsu that also came from Chin Na Fa and Chin Na In. Jujitsu is a poor substitute when all things are equal. Today the US Navy SEALs use SCARS concepts and they are based on Ninpo tai jutsu or whole body evasion but Peterson seems to use some other elements as well. I will not say more since it is classified and people in our group can look and recognize what they are doing before they even do it. Peace Favor Your Sword. Kung Fu means to FOLD Space and Time. That is something we do not have a lot of. thank you for the clarifications as many are not aware IF not Osu? Nice metting you Mrs Martin.
I’ve taken a few styles of karate over the years (never got to black belt level) but I have to admit, I love the way Kung Fu looks.
This clip is spot on. I have been a Martial Artist for four decades. I started off with Karate, then moved to Judo, Wing Chun, Aikido, Tae Kwon Do and finally Hapkido. All of them were fundamentally the same but you learn various "skills" with the different styles of Martial Arts. The one style I wanted to learn however is hard to find a classes is Hwa Rang Do, but my personal preference is Karate
As for which style is better?? None!! It is all about the individual fighter rather than the "style" of Martial Art they do. If you are a good fighter, then it matters little which style of Martial Arts you do
Entonces ya eres un chaolin sin darte cuenta tienes el kunfu sin querer.
Hello sir!! I want to do Judo, should I do karate or Judo? For self defense? I want to learn both but I want to learn Judo.
@@menzerroku4708 If your personal preference is Judo then go for it; as it has some very good self defense techniques
Thank you!! I think I want to learn grappling.
Isn't Aikido BS?
Both are good if you can master them. In fact, it is not the final product but the way if you can go through it..
@Peter Evans A single example, ruclips.net/video/pP0-IpDEUGU/видео.html
I believe the constant practice of any martial art creates a high level of confidence. This confidence seems to generate a "vibe" that other people can sense either consciously or subconsciously. Bullies look for easy victims. This vibe of confidence seems to cause them to look for an easier target. Of course there are exceptions but for the most part I believe this to be true.
One thing I feel like you forgot to mention, is that to achieve total mastery over a martial art such as Kung Fu, training begins at a very young age. Research suggests that some Chinese children begin their Kung Fu training between the ages of 4 and 10 years old.
What a pathetic excuse... what exactly 4 years old kid is able to learn that 14 years old can't?
If there is any real knowledge that you can learn then you can learn it at any age.
Stuff like you just said sounds like an excuse for a bad martial art teacher.
Wow this is great explanation. I do Shoto Kan karate myself. Indeed, it is correct to say that the excellence in either Karate or Kungfu depends on the individual. Therefore, they are both equally important.
Me: performs a fatality
The karate teacher: 😐
😂legend
I think killing the other students maybe frowned upon. I mean how will they ever make a living cause noone wants to be killed day 1. 🤔
A Combination of Both would be Very Good
Kung Fu is a way of life, Karate is a martial art.
There are 400 styles of kung fu from the very soft to the very hard. The words literally mean "hard work". the Chinese word for "martial arts" is "wu shu" but in modern China 'wu shu' refers to martial arts done for theater rather than combat. "karate" can mean either 'China hand " or "empty hand" in Okinawan and the masters said it meant 'empty' in the sense of being free of preconception , expectations or anger.
Karate is a mixture of Chinese art and native Okinawan "te" or "tode". Some karate styles such as Shotokan and kyukushinkai are straight forward , power oriented, "hard" styles. goju ryu is much more circular- lot of the 'softer' kung fu in it. That does NOT mean a good goju man can't hit like a cannon- he can. But they emphasize speed and mobility. There is a lot of emphasis on ki or chi , internal power, in goju. Styles like shuri ryu and shorin ryu are 'harder' and more linear than goju but softer than shotokan or kyukushinkai.
I have not studied shotokan in 40 years; some say it has become more mobility oriented than it was then.
Why you have explained too much about karate not kungfu?
Great knowledge drop my sifu often tells us that kung fu is working hard twords great accomplishments. Kung fu a life style as much as an art in that you must be the healthiest and strongest you can be and have "the kung fu mindset". I don't know if he was quoting but Bruce Lee once said "running water never grows stale". I know that perseverance is taught in all martial arts but the philosophy of kung fu is extremely important to training kung fu.
hi
Fun Fact: kung fu was actually created by a man from south india whose name was boddhidharman
@@85RZ bruce lee is the epitome of gong fu. he trains, conditions and learns gongfu all day long. he even dreams gongfu. he experiments with body building and styles etc to cultivate and perfect his art. real hardworking man in his art. of course many other less well known masters are too, but for the record, bruce is documented.
Chakie Chan said that Bruce Lee's films played slower because Bruce Lee was too fast. You couldn't see his hands or feet, Chuck Norris said he has never seen a person as fast as Bruce Lee who also trained so hard
his speed, accuracy and power are otherworldly. trained to surpass perfection.
From personal experience I would say it is how the style is taught rather than the style itself. In the UK most (that I've seen) karate schools tend to be focussed on slower movements, perfecting the action rather than the impact. The kung fu I've seen has been, by comparison, about being useful and effective in the real world. Putting that aside the linear movement of karate doesn't fair so well in close proximity or where the surround space is restricted while the kung fu styles I've worked with are pretty much dependent on it. Good to know both :)
Both are practiced unrealistically, generally. More than how its taught, is how its applied that carries the most importance.
Our Mauritian born Aikido Sensei, Joe Venghama, often invited teachers of other martial arts to come teach, from Europe/ Asia. I'm so grateful to him as it allowed us to could grasp other styles. Not missing the randoris vs 5 people with jo, tanto, bokken.
Kung Fu was better for my body. But my favourite was Yoseikan. To me, the most complete art, as it includes elements of multiple arts.
To be sincerely honest in my humble opinion without being sentimental of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view and without hiding any thoughts in my mind and without lies,to the actual truth with my clear open mind and clean heart,expressing what ever is embedded inside me for a long time which I didn't say just because I was nervous.But Today, by gathering all the courage and motivation, I just want to say that I actually feel and think that I have absolutely nothing to say🤸😁
@@youngstarskarateclub6263 Your lack ability to read his comment with understanding is not the same as "I have absolutely nothing to say".
In the introduction: "Kung-Fu has been practiced in China for more than 7000 yrs" 🤣🤣 My wife said, someone has skipped the high school history 🤣🤣
why?
@@johndoe8854 it started 1400 years ago
Straight linear movements is right ! I studied Okinawan Karate and the studied "Kung
Fu". Once I was sparing with my Sifu and I charged at him
pushing him back. He then leaped aside and then hit me with an iron forearm. He sent my back the 6 feet that I gained ! This was my first introduction to "iron forearm."
This was back in 1979' and I haven't forgot it, and I don't let him forget it either ! 😁
always respect your teacher
"Straight linear movements is right ! "....Sometimes? perhaps...Always? absolutely not.
In kungfu it has strength,speed, reaction speed, flexibilty and observation in their opponents
As for me, kolkhoz style is the most effective one. It's simple: you drink a liter of vodka or samogon and then just fall asleep. Battle is won. That's it.
That's best wake up next day have some pickle juice and ready for next round
This video has so many inaccuracy I don't even know where to begin. However Kungfu vs. Karate, it all boils down to the fighter, because both have hard and soft principles which all goes back to the birth of it all.
Tbh i cant think of a fair Situation where a kung fu practioner wins against a MMA practioner
Actually, professional wrestlers like Lou Thesz, or even Sky Low Low, would make mince meat of even the best martial artists of any stripe!
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Spot on, not even worth commenting on
@@sas6561 🤣🤣🤣
How is no-one mentioning his Ross Geller-style pronunciation of ‘karate’ 🤣
Yes, I have studied Unagi.
I think ultimately, the best fighting style is where your opponent cannot anticipate your next move or is not familiar with it. This is where personal creativity has to come in outside of what you learned after having learned the basics. You want the fight to be over in 1 minute, not 10 minutes.
In one Minute? No, in ten seconds or faster.....
Thank you for this video, which clarifies a lot for beginners. I might add, that Wushu also refers to any Chinese martial arts style. So the big term system of Wushu can be compared with the Japanese system of Budo, which also includes a lot of styles. What is mostly shown in movies is a modern, athletic Wushu, so In short, you may refer to modern Wushu simply as Wushu. Personally I found Wushu Training much more satisfying than my Karate training, because it fits me better at was more fun. I am no fighter but I had some situations of self defense - my Karate and my Judo sucked there, after I started Wushu (which also included Taiji Quan) I defended myself and others successfully with Taijiquan (which is also included in the big term of the more than 100 wushu systems). It luckily never had been a real frighting situation, things like defending from a pickpocket or some drunk guys.
I have been practicing Wing Chung Kung Fu for over 40 years. One of the differences is that in Kung Fu you are prone to wait for the attack and then defend and counter where as in Karate it is more of an attack. It is like the spider waiting on the web for the prey to enter his space and then to form the attack.
because chinese martial arts are about defense first. but there are those trained for aggressive combats too.
oversimplification bro, look at Stephen Thompson. He uses Karate(kempo) at the highest level in the UFC (top 5 contender) and he sets up counters all the time and is considered to be one of the greatest strikers of his generation.
If you have been training wing chun for over 40 years you should know you should not wait for the attack. “If you have to stop and think it is too late”. When you have made the decision to fight you go in and end it as quickly as you can.
Legendary Bruce, Jackie and Jet ❤️❤️❤️
Jackie is so Legendary He has stuntmen to do the boring shit like walking or driving and only does the dangerous stuff.
And Donnie Yen!
@@gliptodonte_ I know Donnie Yen but Tony Jaa is better 🙌🏻
I took a few lessons in Marshal Arts (maybe 3 or 4 times) when I was in my 20's and in the very first bout, I could not help but kick my instructors behind in seconds and the 2nd instructor, it was in part that they made a grave error in their arrogant assessment and underestimating of me, a serious mistake to never make in fighting. I was a seriously (seasoned-in) experienced street fighter and faster than "greased-lightening" and I had that internal-power-force (Berserker) strength second to none! When I was in my 40's I gave lessons to my oldest Son when he was in the 1st grade of elementary school, because a bully was beating him up. I taught self defense and movements, how to strike a hard effective blow, but the very most important part was to teach and pass on to him, was the "Internal- Spirit" that makes a fighter/winner. Without this, it can all just be mental exercise and social status and build a little self confidence. I also had him read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. Well my Son came home with a good win and was never bullied again as was expected.
"The battle that is won without fighting, is always the most preferable."
Sun Tzu (more or less)
Mind power
Karate didn't exist when Sun Tzu was around, so I guess he'd vote for kung fu (also 'cuz he was Chinese)
Not relevant to a "fight" between two people at all. Battles are armies, or large groups and that is where that quote is relevant.
I am from China and have no idea how you get the number of 7000😂. As I know the writen history of China is about 5000 years for higher estimation.
Absolutely, kungfu master 1500 years back went to china from South India, and establish shoalin temple, he was master Bodhhidharma
We cannot know. So much of Chinese history is obscured. But we do know Chinese fighting prowess go back many generations.Original UFC somebody travels to another village to beat someone up (or lose) establishing local martial art.
@Lrony Yeo u might go to hell
@Lrony Yeo that was pretty aggressive ngl
@Lrony Yeo I don't want to be rude or bad. I just want to say Chinese people themselves believe that kung fu was invented in China by an Indian named bodhidharma. He was a bhudist priest. And he also taught for other bhudist. Well without knowing me or anybody can't speak. Soo we don't know. But I know I said that. Sorry for bad English
I practiced kung fu and it is harder to advance than in karate. In my school, if you don't know your forms and don't pass tests you will repeat the forms and skills until you know them then the sifu will pass you. Some karate schools are the same way. If you don't know the katas the sensei won't pass you for a higher belt. Teachers have a lot to do with the development of skills in each martial art in each student.
My Taekwondo school was like that- you had to know the katas as well as the attacks and blocks to progress.
@@davidm4566 the karate school I observed before choosing my kung fu school had junior black belts which is a sign it is a McDojo. I am not saying it can't be done but these black belts were as young as 9 years old and there were quite a number of them. I think a great majority of black belts in our schools are adults which makes them legit schools.
@@JeffreyKyleDin I agree that I think it's weird and sort of cheapens the whole thing when you have 8 year old "black belts".
I'm guessing it's some sort of jr. division and hope that they have to actually retest or something when they get older.
Take what they are teaching you, and experiment past it, on your own...always with any art or style.
As an ex-practitioner of both Karate and "Kung Fu", I feel obligated to say that both have equally powerful hand, foot and elbow strikes. The difference is _not_ in the power, but in the _way_ the power is _usually_ achieved.
The best is used by the winner. I can recall Master Ed Parker saying during a class, "Remember, no matter how bad you think you are, there will always be someone badder"
I took Tae Kwon Do for roughly a year and a half, but I only got as high as a green belt and of all the techniques I've learned, in what few physical altercations I've encountered, I haven't had to use anything more than just the odd block and straight punch. Well there was only one time I used a side thrust kick on someone but it wasn't very effective, it only stumbled him back a couple or so feet, but it was enough to make him think twice and retreat. But then I guess that's all that matters.
I am always a KF enthusiast but Karate? Not my style and I have the highest respect for all Martial Art Styles especially Karate which is a Hard style and not to be messed around with. Great system. It's not the style but the person wielding the Style. To all MA in the world, I salute you all.
Did a good job on point with the history and background of each root discipline and the forms thereafter. Good job
Nice video. I just love how in english we depict a practitioner as "artist", it really depicts the doctrine of self control and non-violence behind martial arts. The more trained the more a teacher will encourage you not to pick a fight. I live in Brazil, land of the BJJ and we often refer to it in portuguese as "arte suave" (the gentle art). The idea is to master self control and to be ready if confrontation is unavoidable.
Correction: Okinawa was a independent kingdom until it was forcefully ceded to Japan in 1879.
James you hit on it exactly. I would also like to add, China hand or Okinawate was practiced in secret. The Okinawans were not allowed to have weapons. Funakoshi was sent as a diplomat to ease the tension between Okinawa and Japan. He changed the name to make empty hand fighting styles Karate.
被你戳破了
"there are several types of martial arts"
brutal tv
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profound :D
The only intelligent sentence in the video
People always makes kungfu the hero side and karate the villain side In the movies.
Legend has it Jesse still wears his gi and not wash it 😂
The footwork and fluidity and internal training of Kungfu styles is unparalleled
Not only are they paralleled, but they are SURPASSED, by every martial art that actually incorporates full-contact sparring against capable Resisting opponents.
@@occamtherazor3201 those trained for combat, sports and lifestyle trained very differently under different regimes. ufc fanbois are too chauvinistic and narcissistic and this defeats the spirit of true martial arts. not so long ago, martial artists fought on the stage to the death. care to try? it was since outlawed and the aggressiveness dialled down alongside. but now combat sports such as mma is popular, it may bring 'mortal kombat' trainees back again.
@@alsetalokin88 You are 100% full of shit. Nobody ever fought on stage.to the death. That is some Frank Dux "Kumate" nonsense.
MMA "Fanboys" are "Chauvinistic" because they know that they are the only ones who are REAL. The men and women fighting in the Octagon today are the most effective unarmed physical combatants to ever walk the earth.
No amount of cinder block breaking or fake "No-touch-knockout" seminars will ever change that.
@@alsetalokin88 Oh lord what are you 12. 100% bullshido talk
@@occamtherazor3201 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lei_tai
I would say and recommend that KUNG FU is the most effective way of fighting techniques and the most flexible styles. And in my own opinion, I prefer KUNG FU and I love the body movements and flexibilities. And it is not just only fighting, it also includes meditations, and mind powers. There are more to it than just fighting.
I mean no disrespect, I’ve done traditional martial arts before and I got no problem with Kung fu guys, but if it’s the most effective fighting style as you are claiming here how come we didn’t see it in the early ufc days when it was no rules do so well? You might just want to rethink there my friend
Maybe at the higher levels Kung Fu is better, for the average person seeking basic self defense, karate might be better.
@@Spillers72 Basic MMA is going to prepare you better for the street, it just wont be "fun" like the arts.
Try using it against peak Mike Tyson at that distance you would die.
I think the Desert Eagle is the most effective style It can deliver devastating blows. The Desert Eagle is also unblockable, unless you live in the Matrix.
Underrated comment.
@@eclipse2966 Underrated it is indeed. No worries only time will tell :(
I get it now XD
I've done karate for 8 years now I started when I was 5 and now I am a black belt as a martial artist I love any other martial art equal they are all interesting and very powerful in their own way I can't explain my love towards Martial art
IT DEPENDS OF THE SKILL OF THE PERSON
Yes very true
This cannot be said enough
just true
But there are styles who are more grounded in reality
In any martial arts, it depends on the individual. It’s never about what style is better but who is the better fighter regardless of the style.
Miyamoto Musashi said the one who wins is the one that does not hesitate.
Very true
The Number 1 under the Sun. The Man that created the dual Katana style so popular in media. 1 of the greatest duelist and war veterans to live. Dying not in battle but instead in his 70s to Cancer.
Hesitation is defeat.
I want to China
Always being the one getting the first shot off, is the most important thing...on the street. So his statement rings true in that regard.
I find myself blending both and Tai chi also. I do remember the way it was first taught. After watching video 47 years and a few styles were taught at my school.I become innovative at kata and drills.weapons guide power and form..
*No martial art is better than the other, only the artists are.*
It all depends, if they're both really good, whoever gets the first good lick in will chance to be the winner.
So you hope that the the opponent tastes good and this motivates you to fight better?
Kung fu is a piece of trash. Fake masters everywhere. When the karate teachers are legit and im not a fan of either
BRUCE LEE said he preferred Kung Fu.
I'll trust his judgement
Bruce Lee's entire philosophy was against the idea of "forms" and "styles". He preached META, and he was right. So i don't know how you came up with that, other than you just made it up.
@@Papagiorgio153 I know that he was against form. I've studied theosophy and buddhism so I'm familiar with the concept of form. And he was asked directly which style was the best, he said there is no one ultimate style but if he had a preference, it was Kung Fu.
@@alfredocarrillo5922 Ok man, i understand, but ultimately the question is like asking a pro chef "do you prefer chopped onions, or chopped garlic?". Its an un informed question that shouldn't be asked. Rest assured knowing Bruce chose Kung-Fu because he started with Wing chun.
@@Papagiorgio153 The question is APPROPRIATELY uninformed because the man asking knows nothing about the fighting arts. If he did know, then his question wouldn't be "which fighting style is better?" He would probably have an opinion and would have asked something more along the lines of "I think this [fighting style] is better, do you agree Bruce Lee?" Right?
Bruce lee is overrated
Even within Karate there are major differences in systems. For instance, modern Japanese Karate is quite different than traditional Okinawan Karate.
A friend of mine learned the Japanese martial art of Jiu Jitsu, when we were in our late teens until he archieved his black belt. Later, when we were in college, he took leassons in Tang Lang Kung Fu ("praying mantis style") and he often talked about how different it was to Jiu Jitsu and that his experience with Jiu Jitsu didn't really make it easier for him to learn Tang Lang as even the way you're trained basic techniques is totally different in these two martial arts.
jiu jitsu is brazillian bte
@@worldmapping4895no. There’s two types. Japanese and Brazilian.
@@worldmapping4895u think the Brazilians would name it jiu jitsu🤣🤣
I hold a black belt in Hapkido, Taekwondo, Tang Soo do, and Taichi. The difference being to use the opponent's energy, weaken them out, and stop their attack. Karate requires muscle strength. Hapkido, Tang Soo do, Taekwondo and Taichi employs well learned skill and movements from hardened practice.
A black belt in Tai chi? It must be nice to have something that doesn't exist
@@lm1565 That was exactly my thought. And I'm not sure what "hardened practice" would be in Tai chi.
I briefly studied aikido, then some years later Kung fu, and then a few years later briefly studied karate. From my observation, kung fu masters seemed the most formidable. Being a master of either king fu or karate would be awesome and props to those who keep with it.
Very brilliant evaluative conclusion..In the final analysis, what it's about is not just the art, but more about the practitioner of the art; one's Character, Mind Set, Skill, Fitness, " Killer Instinct, and Dedication.....♡❤
Just replace the "Killer Instinct" bs with "experience" and your golden
For me I always wanted to learn Kung Fu after seeing movies of Bruce Lee and Jet Li. Only that Karate came to us first, so I have been practicing Shotokan karate for the past 33 years, Thank you for sharing. Most Japanese karate originates from White Crane Kung Fu in China Fujian Province
Correct,and if I were to add karate to my Kung fu I've studied for 40 years it would be Shotokan ,much respect for the art
@@joeyphillipssr.985 Try budo karate it explains body mechanism
I always thought that it depended on where the styles originated from. Colder climates had more stiffer movements because of the clothing worn
Thoughtful idea. I will ponder it.
Not necessarily true at All. Northern Shaolin, for example was developed in colder climates than the South of China, yet they are known more for high kicks and bigger movements, whereas Southern styles which were developed in warmer styles are traditionally known for medium and small ( closer range) movements with lower stances and more emphasizing fists... hence the famous phrase "Northern Kicks and Southern Fists".
No sir, origins mean nothing. What matters is damage and utility, which both these martial arts lack.
The one that runs away is the smartest martial artist.
Goe Bann, your comment is very funny, and often very true.
So Parkour
Kung Fu has picked up more baggage than Karate over the years that has continued to separate it from a combat form. I think, and what modern combat sports has shown, is that Karate is more effective because it's more efficient. That said, Karate has also been watered down through the years, and it takes finding a really good dojo to find the stuff that's really applicable.
Good morning my name is Alex.I have studied all forms of hand to hand combat and the fact of the matter is, once you learn the universal movement you can call it what ever you want.As long as it works for you.
"Empty hand" is a relatively recent translation of the original kanji words. Their ancient meaning was "chinese hand". The original karate stemmed from chinese martial arts.
YUP true that Kung Fu,or Hakka Kuen is the originator Karate was originally a very simplified version of Kung Fu.
You should google it friend martial arts are originated from India.
According to Wikipedia, Karate is a combinación of Wu Chun from China and already existent form of fight in Okinawa, so attributing the origin of Karate to Kung Fu exclusively is inaccurate.
@@ijansk just go to google and search Kung fu is originated by indian martial arts kalaripattu. And bodhidharman tought Kung fu so keep your Kung fu panda in your pocket.
@@ijansk it's not really from okinawa, a name created after japanese invasion of this archieplagos ~1870 it's from ryukyu kindom instead.
To quote a line from Bruce Lee's Enter the Dragon..."I practice the art of fighting without fighting". But when it counts, I'll use anything that comes to mind to keep from getting my arse kicked lol
He also said a 1-year grappling novice would beat a lifelong kung fu practitioner
There's always a horse that can't be ridden, & there's always a cowboy who can't be thrown.
The way he says Karate just kills the video
i've trained both karate and kungfu and it is extra rewarding combining the linear as well as the circular movements to challenge myself.
im impressed,you should be teaching
@M Garner you whould be paying attention
I am an old judoka, If I had my time over, I would have done kung-fu and judo because of the fluidity
That is the right way to think. If you taking outside the dojo, a strong ground game better be in the skill set as well.
*lol* "... 7000 years ago ..." this period was called the Neolithic Age - nobody developed kung fu there.
Watch me kung fu kick this mammoth in the face
Read mine!
So there was no hand to hand fighting in that age?
Kung fu just means "something done with skill."
Gordon Ramsey for example in the kitchen is doing kung fu.
Lots of people in the Neolithic had great kung fu, in many different areas of life.
Wu Shu is the Mandarin way of saying Kung Fu from Cantonese. There was no greed in omitting some moves to the Japanese.
The most obvious difference in my opinion is the much closer fighting distance in Kong fu. This is the style for defnding oneself on 30cm distance and going in close as quickly as possible, thus making a plethora of techniques from other styles not applicable/ forcing the opponent to be 100% defensive if there is even time for that reflex. Karate feels more like being centered around standing steady in a broad, low stance,as a means of being defnsive in the first place, while Kong fu/kung fu are spending more time in the dojo with just hitting fucking hard and fast. I have trained both.
it's about how you use the suitable technique in the right moment every martial art have its benifits
So... KUNG FU :')
Karata takes a shorter time and easier to achieve the required skills of self-defense and combat, while Kung Fu takes longer. I took Kung Fu at the age of 15 and I am still learning how to fight and defend myself. I am 68 now.
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That's not true at all. The Real art karate is lost to us. It stopped being taught a while ago. It was originally a mix of jiujitsu, judo, kyokushen and kick boxing. It was intended to be a style that could flow through multiple different styles all in one
The only place that's even comes close to that is Tiger Schulmans.
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kung fu gives the vibe that u gotta stay secluded in the mountains of himalayas hunting what food there is to hunt whilst training kungfu by beating up rocks and climbing up and down with each limb per day. and only then do you get the blackest belt of them all the grand master of all black belts
Karate is extremely good! But Kung Fu is just
2 GOOOOD!!!!!!
Same here 👍
@@muadhfaris212 yassss! Finally someone who understands
Uechi Ryu Kara Te draws attacks from animals: Tiger, Crane and Dragon. And includes circular movements.
Goju Ryu Kara Te includes grappling with striking. And it's both a hard & soft art.
All traditional Okinawan Ryu Kara Te is practical and focuses upon practical self-defense training and strengthening the body for that purpose.
Starting with karate and concluding with kung-fu can really be deadly.
how so and to who?
you said it dude. On point. I break boards in Korean Karate at age 10. I do Shaolin tornado kick at age 15. Starting with Karate can prepare you for Kung Fu.
@@TaijDevon Then what prepares you for gung-fu? Bc it's starting on a lower level - karate (japanese, korean, filipino, white) and kung-fu which is Northern China considered "flowery forms" and gung-fu from Southern china golden royal gung-fu federation. (its only purpose is to maim, break bones and take life.
Tell me this. What is the difference btw a Taekwon-do kick that resembles your Shaolin tornado kick? BC anything that had to do with elements in Northern Shaolin were left there by WuShu and always related to the Wind which represents in gung-fu the dragon who they see as breathe.
they say there is no life without breathe which refers to zen and chi which is the true yin and yang. (the 1st is last) I might be a little too heavy for you. You might want to go and get your teacher. (messin' with' you!)
@@ddmound you are clearly very educated in martial arts. I would say my airborne tornado kick is much more surprising than a roundhouse. Few people (other than you) expect the maneuver. I would like to think fully airborne the torq my 240 lbs body generates would smack the shit out of someone. Butterfly kick very hard to land. But tornado I can knock a guy out.
Dragon somewhere lurking in the mists. You very terrible woman to bring that up. I very happy to ignore Dragon.
And Shaolin too just athletics. I want to learn Bau Gua to really smack people.
Personally, I love Taekwondo and think it depends on what everyone likes best and of course it depends on your own abilities, which in turn depend on the time you have available to train.
they're both fake jiiiiii
Good for health and movies but in self defense, its better than not knowing anything
@@JuanCruz-mf5de stfu
@@JuanCruz-mf5de Tell it to Lyoto Machida
@@JuanCruz-mf5de Get back kicked
7000 years ? The earliest proto-writing systems would be all we have from 7,000 years ago and I doubt that they mention Kung Fu.
This sort of thing used to be decided by people talking about movies. Now, it's decided in UFC.
Some minor details were questionable in my opinion, but I suppose different sources would have it told differently. Overall an amazing video.
Thank you for the time and dedication to making this video.
The question is not simple, because even if one would be more "powerful" than the other at a very high level (because we always tend to compare fighters of a very advanced level), the "weaker" of the two can very well be more powerful at a low, medium level.
learn more of every style,until black belt ,learn another style until black belt oor equilent,its about harmony ,the opponent is is you,once you have mastered yourself you win ,you make people stronger through you
@@calvinfriesen5741 understood, sensei.
Karate + Ti Kondo+ Reasling + Street fight = Super dude ..
Karate is easier as when we get older as does take more effort in kung fu
I think it comes down to each practitioner, each style has strengths and weaknesses.
I agree. It really depends on who is fighting who. I used to watch Denis Alexio and many others in the 80's and 90's and most of them would knock all of these kungfu artists out. But , you know how it is for individuals fighting and how it's really who vs who. The fight itself is dependent upon where it is. Is it in the ring or is it self defense? In other words the purpose of the particular martial art chosen is also very important.
Take for instance the taekwondo practitioner. That is someone that you would never want to try and jump. Those guys are lethal when it comes to multiple attackers. It's almost like they get better in thug situations. Whereas in the ring they might not be as good because 1vs1 fights are different. So every fighting location or situation has a martial art that would be better for it over another martial art.
Then it comes down to who is training you. Depending on who it is., They could turn a nobody into a somebody or unfortunately the one that is the trainee could get worse if the trainer you have is not nearly as experienced as the trainer your opponent has, Take for instance. Cus d'amato in boxing. That man was literally training warriors and each of his fighters had a significant advantage over other fighters with trainers who were far worse and that's most of them in comparison.
BS, striking arts lose to grappling arts in ACTUAL fights 95% of the time, with fighters of equal size & equal level of skill.
unless your have 2 or more attackers,both are recommended,akadio,or hipkado
@@babykllersarenotheroes.4295 then explain why there are more knock out wins than submission wins in the ufc.
@@Paul-rf8xs if u cant handle a 1 v 1 u cant do gang unless ur very lucky. In gener for self defence the martial arts to avoid are: aikido, wtf taekwondo, sport karate or mc dojo, and most kung fu. Most of these dont work in real life
Kyokushin karate and Praying Mantis Kung Fu, good combo..
Kickboxing, boxing and wrestling or jiujitsu, then guns.
@@lonniebeal6032 just nuclear weapons, no questions, else you can just speak and dring a beer, that's more surviving friendly ang generally works.
I’ve always wanted to learn Kung Fu
Kungfu is the best of all time
I won't say any one is better but the two are bodacious and awesome
...........sweet
I've always been a fan of Karate and I like the power punches and kicks behind it.
Nice I like Kung fu , wing Chun specifically. I like quick and agile strikes and powerful kicks
Whatever discipline it takes a Master to walk away 🙏