Yes, it is! And it's not even close. I would be very happy to have a bath like that, in lieu of a normal dry bath, in a larger rig that normally has a dry bath.
The Ram is front wheel drive, which has no business on van conversions. The traction going uphill on curvy slippery wet roads is awful because all of the weight is shifted to the rear end.
I really like this EKKO and with the amazing storage, I could definitely do full time. However, I am quite old, and I don't think I could handle the weight of a full cassette to empty it. I only have to dump my black tank every 7 to 10 days. Since you still have to find a dump station to empty the grey water tank, then I really see no benefit to having a cassette toilet. However, I guess it works for some people and I know it is very popular in Europe. Love the mods you did on this rig.
Don't discard the MOLLE. MOLLE is easy to attach and remove. There are THOUSANDS of MOLLE bags, pouches, and additional ways to connect MOLLE to non-MOLLE items. The attachment system is threading two straps in and out of webbing and then attaching it back to the original pouch with snaps. Very easy to undo, unsnap and pull up slowly. It just prevents the pouch or item from coming off accidentally. There are so many sizes of bags and pouches available. For that MOLLE grid in that cargo area on the EKKO I could see attaching a first aid bag, bike repair bag, and a pouch with spare RV items like hose gaskets, duct tape, propane manifold connector, tire gauge etc. The options are unlimited. And yes you could put a net on it for your bike helmets and gloves. For a good search on Amazon try: MOLLE, MOLLE pouch, MOLLE bag, MOLLE attachments, MOLLE net, MOLLE first aid, MOLLE repair.
I have to give Winnebago credit where credit is due. That bathroom is just amazing and ingenious. I hope it holds up for you and that it is as functional as it seems to be.
You guys really do a good job putting educational and entertaining videos together. Hopefully everything gets back to normal next summer and I’m able to see one in person. The 24c and the wonder Rtb are at the top of our list as we look towards an active retirement of 3 to 5 week trips. Love the all weather prep. Keep the vids coming. Stay safe - enjoy life’s adventure.
Oddly similar to my renovated ambulance which I’m very happy with (huge deisel gas tank at 50 gal, etc). Looks like they are listening to the off-grid customer. Excellent choice. Congratulations
As a long time solar installer (30 years) it's nice to see the RV crowd using it, and the manufacturers have caught on also! Good install, lot of air under the modules, many leave no space underneath, and a module will put out less power when hot. Lithium batteries, a game changer! Looks like an aerodynamically clean rig, at least the frontal area.
I am always amazed at how far some people will go to complain about something. I doesn't seem to matter about what it is, some people go out of their way to grip and complain. If you don't like what you see--move on! Allow those folks who like this product the ability to enjoy it, rather than subject us to your nit-picking! There is NO PERFECT RV. (unless the naysayers design and build it). They, of course, will get it perfect. Kudos to Winnabego for building this unique RV.
Yes, just reading through... Embarrassing these contrarians and eeyore’s who find some nit or fault. Also those who can’t google info or bitch about $ or want a diamond for a cost of a stone. Entertaining, but their lack of awareness has me pity them. Great video 🙏👍
Finally, Euro rear garage layout and four season insulation makes it to this side of the pond. AWD gives it expedition vehicle vibe. IMHO that wrap around shade sticks out like a sour thumb. Good job Winnebago.
Saw both videos. It looks very nice. The Bathroom is very European. That swing wall for the shower is very popular. Which would also explain the cassette toilet, since those are very popular in Europe. In fact, that entire Small Class C looks very European, including the large garage in the back, the closets under the beds, even the fridge. Which is great, because I love the European RVs. Let's hope more manufacturers bring over European designs. I'll even put up with a cassette toilet.
I just watched a couple videos in the new Ford F-150 hybrid powerboost. One video shows the truck powering two travel trailers simultaneously including heating, ac and microwaves... I know you are not interested in a pickup but the tech is a game changer for camping if all kinds... instead of spending a ton on upgrading trailers and class c and class b units it solves the issue nicely. The next step is to bring the hybrid tech to the Transit. All electric camping is becoming a real possibility. Recharging bikes and electronics such as cameras and computers... especially for camping but also small travel trailers such as airstream basecamp units and teardrop trailers. The manufacturer could buy cutaway hybrids already set up for electrical generation and include original ford warranty on the systems instead of aftermarket warranty and service issues.
Hi ya’ll. Looks like a very practical and comfy new adventure. Two things that caught my eye. Lithionics behind an outer door that will need a heavy duty lock, catch the drift, and venting/ temp considerations. The other is the exposed propane tank that even with mud/rock guards could receive a wayward projectile on the road. Looking forward to your mods and improvements. Thanks for the thoughtful and lighthearted presentation.
hello... just a idea. Remove the rear car seats, and install a 2 person bench in place of it. This will allow you to choose the right height to put the cat box, and cat storage under the bench. Then you would still have your his and hers closets. Safe travels, :)
Hello from FRANCE, step by step, you transform your RVs like a European RV: Cassette, propane tanks, garage. Soon Winbago will be able to sell its production here. Good road to you with your new acquisition
Wonderful! Thank you. I’m shopping too! This is something to consider. I have a pleasure way ascent and and ready to make a change for something bigger. Thanks guys! Can’t wait to see you guys drive it and review it!
On that molly system I would use big climbing/ lanyard hooks and then hang gear off the hooks like my backpack, water bladder, damp bike, climbing, ect. Shoes.. harnesses, ropes and so on..
As soon as I saw it during Winnebago’s live event I new this was your next rig; & then they announce you both‼️ 🚐🚲🚲🐱👍🏽👍🏽 Seems to check all of your boxes ✅ ✅ ✅
Like the EKKO; Wish they would offer a bench seat option to replace two front passenger seats. Also a table with more multi-purpose (fold out, swivel capability).
Great vid!! Was thinking about the Revel cause I"m single & about ready to retire after 40 yrs of teaching science!! Got my 2 daughters in college & it's paid for! The vehicle I choose will be the one I live in full time! Never seen this EKKO! Damn...got me re-thinking again!!
Wow this could be it! Roomy, cassette toilet, relatively short and nimble, lithium system (second alternator), outside storage, great solar, all wheel drive! Awesome! We joined your Facebook page for the Ekko! Thank you for your work! 🤙
Oh, man, the EKKO is like the Wonder RTB's bad-ass twin brother separated at birth! Perfect for you. The thing about the RTB (besides the real DOOR and the garage) was that it had those drop-in closet holes. EKKO has that, too. But so much more! it's really made for a more active lifestyle. Stefany: The first thing I thought when I saw your T-shirt was that it was what I got my husband for Christmas. (He's a Pluto fan and was very sad when it was demoted to dwarf planet): smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WQ5QB83/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&customId=B0752XJX9Q&th=1&psc=1 Scott of Go Small Live Large did a thing from Spain a year or two ago and showed an innovative RV bathroom just like the EKKO's. I was thinking when I watched it that we would never see anything like that over here because, well, pedestrian, lowest common denominator tastes. And here it is! Bravo, Winnebago! Many people want innovative euro-styled caravans and white & gray instead of the dreaded brown/beige, etc
OK. "the Wonder RTB's bad-ass twin brother" I'm going to use that. Hope that's OK with you! lol. And I'm still calling Pluto a planet, so tell your husband he's got company!
@@Thefitrv I won't even charge royalties. Hah! The thing with the Wonder RTB is it it's for people my age - old. Or let's just say "more sedate". (I am almost 75, the love of my life just turned 80 on Monday 😱 ) The bad-ass EKKO is for hard charging travelers like you. But we'll stick with our 2020.5 Travato G for now. Despite what James said, I think it's a noticeably smaller profile all around, IMHO. We like to explore towns & communities as much as getting out there and enjoying nature. It's more nimble. Not to mention that the EKKO will definitely make it easier for the underpants gnomes! PS, there is a wonderful book on Pluto, "How I killed Pluto and why it had it coming." Or something like that. Very entertaining, written by the astronomer who axed the poor lonely little hunk of rock out there.
Loaded with a lot of features, nice RV. I like the fact that its a compact Class C. Class B is too small, Class C is too big. This is just right. The tire pressure monitoring system and cab perks are very nice. The garage is like the Euro models, so glad that Winnebago is copying that pattern finally! The garage is the single best thing about this RV!!!! Love the beds, and bathroom, and nice compact two extra seats for passenger or kids. For the Cat litter box, you might consider a passage way into the garage from the bedroom. This was an excellent tour, and I saw everything I wanted to see, thank you both!
A quick search on RUclips for videos about RV's that burn to the ground during propane refill will show just why I LOVE that propane solution. I trust myself to hook up a cylinder waaayyyy more than a bored dude on minimum wage who passed a typical USA industry 'training course' on how to put explosive gas into my vehicle.
Glad that you kind of followed on my small recommendation on looking at a European rv like for example a Hymer, everything of that rv is 100% Europe. We don't have those huge highways you have there so our rv,s are though for smaller places and at the end everything is fit to the millimeter and at the end everything is more practical, like it very much
Looks like you found a winner! I wasn't expecting a Winnebago that small to have a garage, but I guess American RV companies are already slowly adapting some of the European RV trends as well if the garage and the shower is any indication. If you don't want that generator, you can always have them install more battery banks as well as another slab of solar panels on the rails on top. Makes me wonder how hard it is to tinker that rail into a variable geometry solar collector where you can raise the solar panels and point it out to the left/right direction depending on where the sun is to get the most out of it.
I don't watch network TV but use my RV TV as a computer monitor via a COMPUSTICK win10 version, USB hub and a wireless keyboard/mouse works great plus you can stream from your phone, justification for keeping the TV. Why no fans/skylight in the shower/lav? I like the outdoor cooking option you won't stink up your cabin while cooking. Good review.
What we discovered is that Winnebago doesn't do a good job with extra holes...which means mice!! We have found our RV which is a Vista 32T has so much easy access for these critters. We are forver finding and plugging up seams, holes anywhere there is a gap for mice to get in and still they get in. Winnebago should be a more aware of their workmanship because it lacks. The cash you fork out for an RV you would think they would be more vigilant. This is our 2nd RV but our 1st Winnebago. We are forever mice proofing also with traps, scents..you name it we have done it. Your lucky to bring a cat.
Used to have a pet mouse and kept it in a guinea pig cage. Mouse kept getting out, and, me, being the youngest kept getting blamed for letting it out ... until, we all watched it escape. As long as a mouse can get its head through an opening, it will contort its body to squeeze through. They are patient, so make sure all holes are sealed up. I find using steel wool with some spray foam works well.
You guys did a great job showing all the best features of the Ekko. Purely from what I have seen in this video, it is gone to the top of my list of RV's being considered for purchase.
Great review! Pro tip on using a tape measure for inside distance; a tape measure case is a certain length (let's say 2"). Extend the tape with the case against the inside opening of what you are measuring and add the length of extended tape plus the length of the case.
23' x 87" is perfect size but would much prefer two rear-facing all-day comfortable seats mid-ship that feet rest on while sleeping with panoramic view out sides and back (like a van) while lounging with feet optionally on bed as daytime ottoman
Gotta say I’m excited to see the EKKO evolve. I see myself in James, ALWAYS fiddling, fixing and “improving”. Stef, I think wants stuff that make life easier, REALLY easier, otherwise, why bother. So a convection/microwave and induction cooktop for sure, end it. OTOH I see years of new content for James’ ideas, lol TheFitRV lives and that’s just great.
You guys did a better tour then any other video here… and I’m pretty sure one of the other videos I’ve watched on the EKKO was you guys also. Thanks for showing the entire bathroom like that, that’s a first in any video
I like the RV and would consider buying one except for the lounge chairs. They look like airline seats and are too close. You couldn’t even sit in the middle of the two to have a comfortable meal. The Heimer has a much better front lounge choice - just isn’t the RV the echo is. If I bought an echo I would have to remove the lounge airline seats and replace them with a sofa.
LOVE THIS CONCEPT! I'm so glad to see you guys release this hot on the heals of the extraordinary ARV BBOX. WHAT I LOVE! Size/form factor... it's perfect. Garage... I think this is a must on an RV, room for the expensive bikes to be stored/secured inside. The bathroom is ingenious. WHAT I DISLIKE! Mismatched/unbalanced mix of colors on the exterior. The hard black outlines of all the doors against the cream background on the box. Awings... why do all RVs have awnings!?!?! The two extra passenger seats, it's a two person RV and you've got four seats? That space could have been used for something else. This last one above just makes me think that there cold be a way better overall design of this if they committed to this being a two person RV. I hope to see more of this model in the future!
This has the potential to be a nice rig. Did you see any tripping hazards in the floor design? Many campers have those. Overall, many great design choices made. However, it looks like there are plenty of pictures of wood in there, as well as stick and staple cabinets? Same here, no interest in outdoor kitchen. Would greatly prefer a convection microwave. If they stick with the propane cooktop, you could always add an Omnia stove-top oven to your gear and bake in that instead of in the microwave. Wow, pantry is teeny. Love the fridge, though, very nice. We do like the Lagun counter extension idea. We do not like the curtains that separate the cab from the rest of the unit. In any "B," the cab is critical part of the real estate inside the rig when camping. They should offer insulated blackout shades for side windows and windshield. We are not fans of above-cab TV's. We didn't watch much TV anyway when camping, and not even when we were full-timers. I need to see you turn those cab seats around to face the rear! Overall, we like the Transit as a choice as long as it's got ecoboost, 4x4, the extended chassis and all those nice options you mentioned. :)
The cab curtain is very handy from the aspect that it can be used to keep the dash A/C in the cab in very hot climates when it is not capable of cooling the entire insides. I used the curtain in my View for just that, and it worked great.
Have you ever looked at Truck Campers? We've had two over the 20 years we've been RVing. Both were from Lance. In this video you mention modifications you would make to this Winnebago, but many if not all of those mods plus what the Winnebago already has are all available in Truck Campers. Plus you have the ability to tow more and separate the truck from the camper to go on trips.
Some of the truck campers are pretty amazing. But an unstated requirement from Stef is that she could get up and go to the bathroom while I'm driving. Not so easy in a truck camper.
Put it on a Sprinter 4x4 chassis and I'll buy it. The box on a chassis approach was pioneered by Advanced RV, and they are using Sprinter Chassis. Sprinters are hard to find for the manufacturers, but chassis cabs are not.
The sprinter is much harder and more expensive to service. You can service a Ford anywhere but there are often long waits to get in for service on a sprinter. Also you lose power at altitude on a sprinter vs ecoboost Ford. Overall more power on tap with Ford by quite a lot.
I, for one, prefer the EcoBoost gas. Glad they avoided the sprinter. Also the box on chassis is a typical class c build. Nothing new here except the size of the box.
I was gob smacked with delight when seeing the new Advanced RV B Box (so advanced) until I saw the price $380,000! OMG. But, after watching this video on the new EKKO, I think I have a realistically priced option that is closely similar. I still have to find out the EKKO price, but as it is a mass produced product as opposed to the bespoke B Box, it must be a lot more affordable. I am looking forward to hearing more about the EKKO once it is put to a real-world test. Thank you for your very useful tour. Your videos are very enjoyable and educational.
I was sold on Ekko until I discovered the crash rating on the 2020 Ford Transit, 3 stars overall and 2 stars for front passenger. Unacceptable!!! What in the hell is Ford thinking?
The steps on my 1993 Fleetwood Bounder are still working. Praying that's true forever. Trade you for your beautiful new rig. Killer bathroom for a class C. Great counter in kitchen. Is that an airplane seat and table? 😊
You guys did an excellent job on the video footage. I like the motorhome. It looks well made. If the pipes are not exposed, is this camper well suited for winter travel?
Love some of these ideas - removable gas bottles is huge! The garage with 3 access doors is amazing. Love all the small details like the L track, etc. Proposed price is a challenge though - it's pretty expensive for this kind of RV.
Well, it’s ugly as sin, but it look to be very practical. You have tons of solar, a DC to DC charger and a ton of lithium battery power, so I’m not sure why you need a generator. The RV has one foot in old school and one foot in new school. Winnegago should just go all in on a new generation RV without a dang generator.
They explained in the video that this is a protype so they installed all the available options including the upgraded Lithium and the generator. The generator is an option you don't have to get.
The thing about the molle boards, there are tons of things out there that will connect to it, but you can also Velcro strap, bungee and zip tie things to it, like your helmets, bike pumps, power cords, hoses, etc..
Just watched the Winnebago announcement, this is certainly going to be a "Game Changer" that people talk about. I am sure it is going to be a great seller.
Sorry, can't get overly excited Ekko. Nice - yes, but way over priced which Winnebago has a habit of doing. Very few others to compete with due to lack of transition to the new Ford Transit chassis that has enhanced capabilities to proir generation, but equally as nice on the same Transit chassis, Winnebago succeeded in making Leisure Travel Vans appear inexpensive. With the STARTING MSRP at $163662 for the Ekko, the rear twin bed floorplan of the LTV Wonder may start at $125710, adding EVERY option, including AWD, 400w solar with lithium upgrade and generator upgrade, plus some options like macerator not available on Ekko, increases the final build price to $147721. The chunky "hardy" utility box design vs the smoother rounding/streamlining is more marketing than functional.
LTVs have a lengthy wait, and are selling for MSRP. Check your dealer for EKKO pricing. Adding a sliding tray for the bikes is very simple. We'll be doing that.
This is MY next RV, too! I overlooked the obvious pre-production gaffs, such as the covering ripples on the inside of some compartment doors, less-than-usual-Winnebago wiring in the battery compartment, etc --the only thing I'd modify, as a solo RV'er, is to place a queen-sized bed crossways in the back in place of the twins. Maybe it will be a future option. Or I'll do it myself...
I don't think that's planned (most people don't totally dig having to climb over their partner to get out of bed), but it would be easy enough to do yourself.
@@Thefitrv actually this rig does at least has the option for the crosswise/sideways queen. full size queen too, not a rv queen. it doesn't block the hanging closets either. they show this on the Winnebago website for the ekko
I am in the process of looking and this unit looks interesting. Curious why they did not include the Volta System as in the Travato (newer one looks like 12kwh) and just went with basic Lithionic batteries. Also, don't class Cs suffer from water intrusion into the box? That was my main reason for looking at Bs and their full, factory metal body. What is the box made from? Is it just plywood cored and insulated aluminum skin? I actually liked the changes in the new Travato GL, but the Dodge chassis without AWD or 4x4 gives me some pause - still researching reliability. Best of luck!!! Gerry
Looks like a really nice coach. Certainly, the garage is going to fit your lifestyle perfectly. I wouldn't get too jazzed up about the 31-gallon fuel tank as your range is likely going to be the same or less than your Travato for 2 reasons 1) Ford EB engines are notoriously thirsty and 2) This coach is likely heavier than the Travato as well as the dual rear wheels so I would expect somewhere around 10MPG at 60mph. It's going to be a nice upgrade from what you have though. Good luck and enjoy every moment with it.
Speaking of vans, and slamming the sliding cargo door in a campground with neighbors nearby at night; most (if not all) of the new vans can be optioned with electronic sliding doors, which are very quiet. Not sure, but I think that is now a standard feature on the Revel.
Finally, Euro design made it across the pond! Jeez, took 30 years, but we'll take it.
The fact that you're finally allowing comments on your YT videos is worth a comment in and of itself. Kudos, y'all! :-)
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The wet bath design is the best I have ever seen
We agree. It feels good when you step in. And with 50 gallons of water, showers need not be quite so conservative!
In a way, it reminds me of the Rialta’s convertible bathroom..
Yes, it is! And it's not even close. I would be very happy to have a bath like that, in lieu of a normal dry bath, in a larger rig that normally has a dry bath.
The Ram is front wheel drive, which has no business on van conversions. The traction going uphill on curvy slippery wet roads is awful because all of the weight is shifted to the rear end.
A small window in the entry door would be nice. Would like to scan the area for zombies before I step out.
Not a bad idea. We can bring it up with Winnebago when we get a chance.
A camera there would be a nice substitute
I really like this EKKO and with the amazing storage, I could definitely do full time. However, I am quite old, and I don't think I could handle the weight of a full cassette to empty it. I only have to dump my black tank every 7 to 10 days. Since you still have to find a dump station to empty the grey water tank, then I really see no benefit to having a cassette toilet. However, I guess it works for some people and I know it is very popular in Europe. Love the mods you did on this rig.
There is dry toilet.
I am thinking of replacing it.
Don't discard the MOLLE. MOLLE is easy to attach and remove. There are THOUSANDS of MOLLE bags, pouches, and additional ways to connect MOLLE to non-MOLLE items. The attachment system is threading two straps in and out of webbing and then attaching it back to the original pouch with snaps. Very easy to undo, unsnap and pull up slowly. It just prevents the pouch or item from coming off accidentally. There are so many sizes of bags and pouches available. For that MOLLE grid in that cargo area on the EKKO I could see attaching a first aid bag, bike repair bag, and a pouch with spare RV items like hose gaskets, duct tape, propane manifold connector, tire gauge etc. The options are unlimited. And yes you could put a net on it for your bike helmets and gloves. For a good search on Amazon try: MOLLE, MOLLE pouch, MOLLE bag, MOLLE attachments, MOLLE net, MOLLE first aid, MOLLE repair.
I have to give Winnebago credit where credit is due. That bathroom is just amazing and ingenious. I hope it holds up for you and that it is as functional as it seems to be.
Actually European motorhomes of the same style have had bathrooms like that for years.
I think you two made an excellent choice and found a genuine 4 season, AWD ride with improved Solar and a huge garage!
You guys really do a good job putting educational and entertaining videos together. Hopefully everything gets back to normal next summer and I’m able to see one in person. The 24c and the wonder Rtb are at the top of our list as we look towards an active retirement of 3 to 5 week trips. Love the all weather prep. Keep the vids coming. Stay safe - enjoy life’s adventure.
Thank you!
I truly, truly hope that Winnebago makes this available for the public!! It is absolutely amazing and perfect!!
Count on it. It's on their website now!
That bathroom is pure genius!
We just love you two. Our lives got better the day we met you. Your true friends and fans at Lithionics Battery.
Steve - It's good to finally be able to talk about this!! Can't wait for our next visit to Lithionics!
Steve, congratulations on a fantastic assembly for the Lithionics battery! I hope you are very proud!
@@Thefitrv YES, you need a 3rd battery.....960 amp hours!! Can't wait to show you the new factory!! We need to satisfy Stef's thirst for power...
@@stevetag6572 Can you get three batteries in the Ekko?
Oddly similar to my renovated ambulance which I’m very happy with (huge deisel gas tank at 50 gal, etc). Looks like they are listening to the off-grid customer. Excellent choice. Congratulations
As a long time solar installer (30 years) it's nice to see the RV crowd using it, and the manufacturers have caught on also! Good install, lot of air under the modules, many leave no space underneath, and a module will put out less power when hot. Lithium batteries, a game changer! Looks like an aerodynamically clean rig, at least the frontal area.
Well said!
I am always amazed at how far some people will go to complain about something. I doesn't seem to matter about what it is, some people go out of their way to grip and complain. If you don't like what you see--move on! Allow those folks who like this product the ability to enjoy it, rather than subject us to your nit-picking! There is NO PERFECT RV. (unless the naysayers design and build it). They, of course, will get it perfect. Kudos to Winnabego for building this unique RV.
Amen!
Ditto!
Yes, just reading through... Embarrassing these contrarians and eeyore’s who find some nit or fault. Also those who can’t google info or bitch about $ or want a diamond for a cost of a stone. Entertaining, but their lack of awareness has me pity them. Great video 🙏👍
Finally, Euro rear garage layout and four season insulation makes it to this side of the pond. AWD gives it expedition vehicle vibe. IMHO that wrap around shade sticks out like a sour thumb. Good job Winnebago.
It's about time they start building on a Ford chassis instead of those uber expensive to buy and maintain MB sprinters
Saw both videos. It looks very nice. The Bathroom is very European. That swing wall for the shower is very popular. Which would also explain the cassette toilet, since those are very popular in Europe. In fact, that entire Small Class C looks very European, including the large garage in the back, the closets under the beds, even the fridge. Which is great, because I love the European RVs. Let's hope more manufacturers bring over European designs. I'll even put up with a cassette toilet.
I just watched a couple videos in the new Ford F-150 hybrid powerboost. One video shows the truck powering two travel trailers simultaneously including heating, ac and microwaves... I know you are not interested in a pickup but the tech is a game changer for camping if all kinds... instead of spending a ton on upgrading trailers and class c and class b units it solves the issue nicely. The next step is to bring the hybrid tech to the Transit. All electric camping is becoming a real possibility. Recharging bikes and electronics such as cameras and computers... especially for camping but also small travel trailers such as airstream basecamp units and teardrop trailers. The manufacturer could buy cutaway hybrids already set up for electrical generation and include original ford warranty on the systems instead of aftermarket warranty and service issues.
Hi ya’ll. Looks like a very practical and comfy new adventure. Two things that caught my eye. Lithionics behind an outer door that will need a heavy duty lock, catch the drift, and venting/ temp considerations. The other is the exposed propane tank that even with mud/rock guards could receive a wayward projectile on the road. Looking forward to your mods and improvements. Thanks for the thoughtful and lighthearted presentation.
I've already raised the issue with Winnebago about door locks on both the battery compartment, and on the garage (where we'll have nice bikes stored).
@@Thefitrv wait, I thought the twisty handles were locks, did I miss something?
The propane tanks are no worse, probably better, than a hard mounted ASME tank on the frame with zero protection from anything on the road.
hello... just a idea. Remove the rear car seats, and install a 2 person bench in place of it. This will allow you to choose the right height to put the cat box, and cat storage under the bench. Then you would still have your his and hers closets. Safe travels, :)
Already planning it...
OH MY MY MY!!!!! WINNEBAGO YOU HAVE HIT A HOME RUN!!!! TAKE MY ENTIRE 401K!!!! I'M ORDERING THIS ASAP!!!!
Sort of feel the same way!
Hello from FRANCE, step by step, you transform your RVs like a European RV: Cassette, propane tanks, garage. Soon Winbago will be able to sell its production here. Good road to you with your new acquisition
Hi Bruno! We'd love to actually bring an EKKO to France. It would be a blast!
Wonderful! Thank you. I’m shopping too! This is something to consider. I have a pleasure way ascent and and ready to make a change for something bigger. Thanks guys! Can’t wait to see you guys drive it and review it!
You are so welcome!
On that molly system I would use big climbing/ lanyard hooks and then hang gear off the hooks like my backpack, water bladder, damp bike, climbing, ect. Shoes.. harnesses, ropes and so on..
As soon as I saw it during Winnebago’s live event I new this was your next rig; & then they announce you both‼️ 🚐🚲🚲🐱👍🏽👍🏽
Seems to check all of your boxes ✅ ✅ ✅
Right on!
Like the EKKO; Wish they would offer a bench seat option to replace two front passenger seats. Also a table with more multi-purpose (fold out, swivel capability).
Great vid!! Was thinking about the Revel cause I"m single & about ready to retire after 40 yrs of teaching science!! Got my 2 daughters in college & it's paid for! The vehicle I choose will be the one I live in full time! Never seen this EKKO! Damn...got me re-thinking again!!
I know we would appreciate the extra room and increased tank sizes over the Revel if we were going full time.
$163,000 leaves me out. Beautiful but I doubt I’d even get $163,000 for my house and then couldn’t afford the gas to go anywhere!
Wow this could be it! Roomy, cassette toilet, relatively short and nimble, lithium system (second alternator), outside storage, great solar, all wheel drive! Awesome! We joined your Facebook page for the Ekko! Thank you for your work! 🤙
Oh, man, the EKKO is like the Wonder RTB's bad-ass twin brother separated at birth! Perfect for you. The thing about the RTB (besides the real DOOR and the garage) was that it had those drop-in closet holes. EKKO has that, too. But so much more! it's really made for a more active lifestyle.
Stefany: The first thing I thought when I saw your T-shirt was that it was what I got my husband for Christmas. (He's a Pluto fan and was very sad when it was demoted to dwarf planet): smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WQ5QB83/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&customId=B0752XJX9Q&th=1&psc=1
Scott of Go Small Live Large did a thing from Spain a year or two ago and showed an innovative RV bathroom just like the EKKO's. I was thinking when I watched it that we would never see anything like that over here because, well, pedestrian, lowest common denominator tastes. And here it is! Bravo, Winnebago! Many people want innovative euro-styled caravans and white & gray instead of the dreaded brown/beige, etc
OK. "the Wonder RTB's bad-ass twin brother" I'm going to use that. Hope that's OK with you! lol.
And I'm still calling Pluto a planet, so tell your husband he's got company!
@@Thefitrv I won't even charge royalties. Hah! The thing with the Wonder RTB is it it's for people my age - old. Or let's just say "more sedate". (I am almost 75, the love of my life just turned 80 on Monday 😱 ) The bad-ass EKKO is for hard charging travelers like you. But we'll stick with our 2020.5 Travato G for now. Despite what James said, I think it's a noticeably smaller profile all around, IMHO. We like to explore towns & communities as much as getting out there and enjoying nature. It's more nimble. Not to mention that the EKKO will definitely make it easier for the underpants gnomes!
PS, there is a wonderful book on Pluto, "How I killed Pluto and why it had it coming." Or something like that. Very entertaining, written by the astronomer who axed the poor lonely little hunk of rock out there.
Loaded with a lot of features, nice RV. I like the fact that its a compact Class C. Class B is too small, Class C is too big. This is just right. The tire pressure monitoring system and cab perks are very nice. The garage is like the Euro models, so glad that Winnebago is copying that pattern finally! The garage is the single best thing about this RV!!!!
Love the beds, and bathroom, and nice compact two extra seats for passenger or kids.
For the Cat litter box, you might consider a passage way into the garage from the bedroom.
This was an excellent tour, and I saw everything I wanted to see, thank you both!
Glad you liked it!
This is really beautiful! I absolutely love the bathroom!!!
A quick search on RUclips for videos about RV's that burn to the ground during propane refill will show just why I LOVE that propane solution.
I trust myself to hook up a cylinder waaayyyy more than a bored dude on minimum wage who passed a typical USA industry 'training course' on how to put explosive gas into my vehicle.
Safety during filling. Another benefit to this propane solution. Thanks!
Thank you for finding my next RV
Any time! ;-)
Glad that you kind of followed on my small recommendation on looking at a European rv like for example a Hymer, everything of that rv is 100% Europe. We don't have those huge highways you have there so our rv,s are though for smaller places and at the end everything is fit to the millimeter and at the end everything is more practical, like it very much
I absolutely LOVE that shower!
Looks like you found a winner! I wasn't expecting a Winnebago that small to have a garage, but I guess American RV companies are already slowly adapting some of the European RV trends as well if the garage and the shower is any indication. If you don't want that generator, you can always have them install more battery banks as well as another slab of solar panels on the rails on top. Makes me wonder how hard it is to tinker that rail into a variable geometry solar collector where you can raise the solar panels and point it out to the left/right direction depending on where the sun is to get the most out of it.
I don't watch network TV but use my RV TV as a computer monitor via a COMPUSTICK win10 version, USB hub and a wireless keyboard/mouse works great plus you can stream from your phone, justification for keeping the TV. Why no fans/skylight in the shower/lav? I like the outdoor cooking option you won't stink up your cabin while cooking. Good review.
I love it! I also love cassette toilets! Wow! I will need to take a closer look at this model once it is out. CONGRATS to you both!
What we discovered is that Winnebago doesn't do a good job with extra holes...which means mice!! We have found our RV which is a Vista 32T has so much easy access for these critters. We are forver finding and plugging up seams, holes anywhere there is a gap for mice to get in and still they get in. Winnebago should be a more aware of their workmanship because it lacks. The cash you fork out for an RV you would think they would be more vigilant. This is our 2nd RV but our 1st Winnebago. We are forever mice proofing also with traps, scents..you name it we have done it. Your lucky to bring a cat.
Used to have a pet mouse and kept it in a guinea pig cage. Mouse kept getting out, and, me, being the youngest kept getting blamed for letting it out ... until, we all watched it escape. As long as a mouse can get its head through an opening, it will contort its body to squeeze through. They are patient, so make sure all holes are sealed up. I find using steel wool with some spray foam works well.
Almost perfect! One thing I can suggest is to make the right chair slide sideways
I hope you review the 24C variation soon. That has a separate shower and a black tank toilet considering you’re not cassette toilet fans.
You guys did a great job showing all the best features of the Ekko. Purely from what I have seen in this video, it is gone to the top of my list of RV's being considered for purchase.
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
Just found y'all, never thought I could do a wet bath, but I think I could do this. Can't wait to see after you have used it for a bit. Love this.
Welcome!!
AWD❤️. I like the grill and off road aesthetic. That garage is a game changer!
We agree!
Great review! Pro tip on using a tape measure for inside distance; a tape measure case is a certain length (let's say 2"). Extend the tape with the case against the inside opening of what you are measuring and add the length of extended tape plus the length of the case.
Most folks just throw a couple small caribeaner clips onto the Moly mounts to hang a backpack or bike helmets, works great!
23' x 87" is perfect size but would much prefer two rear-facing all-day comfortable seats mid-ship that feet rest on while sleeping with panoramic view out sides and back (like a van) while lounging with feet optionally on bed as daytime ottoman
Gotta say I’m excited to see the EKKO evolve. I see myself in James, ALWAYS fiddling, fixing and “improving”. Stef, I think wants stuff that make life easier, REALLY easier, otherwise, why bother. So a convection/microwave and induction cooktop for sure, end it. OTOH I see years of new content for James’ ideas, lol TheFitRV lives and that’s just great.
I would rather see one of the combo propane/induction cooktops for the flexibility.
Love the RV, love your enthusiasm, and I'd love to see you pull the arm of your slot machine
I've had that in my office for years! It's the only slot machine I can feel good about playing... I'm the house!
The shower is genius, what a great idea.
Has a charming, ‘I live in a taco truck’ look :P
You guys did a better tour then any other video here… and I’m pretty sure one of the other videos I’ve watched on the EKKO was you guys also. Thanks for showing the entire bathroom like that, that’s a first in any video
I like the RV and would consider buying one except for the lounge chairs. They look like airline seats and are too close. You couldn’t even sit in the middle of the two to have a comfortable meal. The Heimer has a much better front lounge choice - just isn’t the RV the echo is. If I bought an echo I would have to remove the lounge airline seats and replace them with a sofa.
Yes I agree
LOVE THIS CONCEPT! I'm so glad to see you guys release this hot on the heals of the extraordinary ARV BBOX.
WHAT I LOVE!
Size/form factor... it's perfect.
Garage... I think this is a must on an RV, room for the expensive bikes to be stored/secured inside.
The bathroom is ingenious.
WHAT I DISLIKE!
Mismatched/unbalanced mix of colors on the exterior.
The hard black outlines of all the doors against the cream background on the box.
Awings... why do all RVs have awnings!?!?!
The two extra passenger seats, it's a two person RV and you've got four seats? That space could have been used for something else.
This last one above just makes me think that there cold be a way better overall design of this if they committed to this being a two person RV.
I hope to see more of this model in the future!
We'd love an "awning delete" option as well.
This has the potential to be a nice rig. Did you see any tripping hazards in the floor design? Many campers have those. Overall, many great design choices made. However, it looks like there are plenty of pictures of wood in there, as well as stick and staple cabinets? Same here, no interest in outdoor kitchen. Would greatly prefer a convection microwave. If they stick with the propane cooktop, you could always add an Omnia stove-top oven to your gear and bake in that instead of in the microwave. Wow, pantry is teeny. Love the fridge, though, very nice. We do like the Lagun counter extension idea. We do not like the curtains that separate the cab from the rest of the unit. In any "B," the cab is critical part of the real estate inside the rig when camping. They should offer insulated blackout shades for side windows and windshield. We are not fans of above-cab TV's. We didn't watch much TV anyway when camping, and not even when we were full-timers. I need to see you turn those cab seats around to face the rear! Overall, we like the Transit as a choice as long as it's got ecoboost, 4x4, the extended chassis and all those nice options you mentioned. :)
There are steps between the bed area and the living area...kills it for us. Nice otherwise.
The cab curtain is very handy from the aspect that it can be used to keep the dash A/C in the cab in very hot climates when it is not capable of cooling the entire insides. I used the curtain in my View for just that, and it worked great.
Interesting. Never thought of leaving it up all the time...
Have you ever looked at Truck Campers? We've had two over the 20 years we've been RVing. Both were from Lance. In this video you mention modifications you would make to this Winnebago, but many if not all of those mods plus what the Winnebago already has are all available in Truck Campers. Plus you have the ability to tow more and separate the truck from the camper to go on trips.
Some of the truck campers are pretty amazing. But an unstated requirement from Stef is that she could get up and go to the bathroom while I'm driving. Not so easy in a truck camper.
@@Thefitrv LOL. My wife has the same, very strict, requirement...
@@Thefitrv Yeah, I get that. We travel with two toy poodles. When they go, we go :-)
Nice rig. I think it would look better if the box was the same color as the chassis.
LOVE IT LOOKS GREAT!! CANT WAIT!!! To see your new one!!!! Thanks and Cheers!
Jon
Put it on a Sprinter 4x4 chassis and I'll buy it. The box on a chassis approach was pioneered by Advanced RV, and they are using Sprinter Chassis. Sprinters are hard to find for the manufacturers, but chassis cabs are not.
The sprinter is much harder and more expensive to service. You can service a Ford anywhere but there are often long waits to get in for service on a sprinter. Also you lose power at altitude on a sprinter vs ecoboost Ford. Overall more power on tap with Ford by quite a lot.
I, for one, prefer the EcoBoost gas. Glad they avoided the sprinter. Also the box on chassis is a typical class c build. Nothing new here except the size of the box.
@@ChopperChad Yup ... Advanced RV did not pioneer the "box on a chassis."
Great! A B-Box! Finally.
I was gob smacked with delight when seeing the new Advanced RV B Box (so advanced) until I saw the price $380,000! OMG. But, after watching this video on the new EKKO, I think I have a realistically priced option that is closely similar. I still have to find out the EKKO price, but as it is a mass produced product as opposed to the bespoke B Box, it must be a lot more affordable. I am looking forward to hearing more about the EKKO once it is put to a real-world test. Thank you for your very useful tour. Your videos are very enjoyable and educational.
MSRP is on the Winnebago website. (And it looks to be less than half of the B-Box.)
Looks like the MSRP starts at $163,000.00 and goes up depending on options.
$168k base price
A dually....YES! Great presentation! I'm sold!!!!!
Right on!
BRING BACK THE BELL!!!!
LOL!!!
It is a very nice Euro styled B+ camper. Something I've been wanting to see for a long time.
I like my cassette toilet and I use white vinegar in it and have no smell issues
Just vinegar! That's good to know, we've never tried that. Would be much cheaper too. Thanks!
How heavy is it to empty?
@@Thefitrv Can you convert to a composting toilet. I think that will give you a much better off-grid range
If out in no mans land and your cassette is full where do you dump? New to RV’ing. Just doesn’t seem convenient. Any other tips?
It's practically the Panoramic RV but with more space and a funky bathroom.
Did good job but 165k is too pricey. I’m going to look small A class instead for this.
This is the best rv ive seen this year. I dont get why every other manufacturer insists bigger=better
Us too!
I was sold on Ekko until I discovered the crash rating on the 2020 Ford Transit, 3 stars overall and 2 stars for front passenger. Unacceptable!!! What in the hell is Ford thinking?
I Love This!!
Want that Bathroom!
Storage - Forget the outdoor kitchen and do an outdoor table.
Close but no Cigar. A ways to go to catch up to the Wonder.
Wonder is too big for us. You can take this places you couldn't fit a Wonder.
It’s this or the Wonder for me so far. Can’t wait to crawl around both and compare.
In many ways this is better than the Wonder. More advanced technology and way better insulation. LTV emphasizes their products are 3 season only.
The steps on my 1993 Fleetwood Bounder are still working. Praying that's true forever. Trade you for your beautiful new rig.
Killer bathroom for a class C.
Great counter in kitchen.
Is that an airplane seat and table? 😊
Those seats do look kind of airplane-y, don't they?
Is the Winnebago roof a rubberized fabric? Or is the roof made with the same material as the sides? For me, that is critical. Thx.
No rubber sheet roof. Fiberglass I believe. I walked on it.
Good to know! Thx!
In the UK we call slide door campers as ‘ Whosh Bangs’ cause that’s all you hear late at night and they never shut first time 🙃
Whoosh Bangs! Yes! You get it!
the microwave seems dangerously high..looks like you have to reach up quite a bit...I'd worry about soup spilling
That is what I notice too.... why the microwave so high?
The rear storage shelf in the bed area is for a CPAP machine. The round plastic cap is for the hose to pass through to the port.
You guys did an excellent job on the video footage. I like the motorhome. It looks well made. If the pipes are not exposed, is this camper well suited for winter travel?
This is best suited RV for winter camping that we have ever reviewed.
Love some of these ideas - removable gas bottles is huge! The garage with 3 access doors is amazing. Love all the small details like the L track, etc. Proposed price is a challenge though - it's pretty expensive for this kind of RV.
Well, they always sell for less than MSRP. Guess we'll have to see how it shakes out at dealers.
Well, it’s ugly as sin, but it look to be very practical. You have tons of solar, a DC to DC charger and a ton of lithium battery power, so I’m not sure why you need a generator. The RV has one foot in old school and one foot in new school. Winnegago should just go all in on a new generation RV without a dang generator.
They explained in the video that this is a protype so they installed all the available options including the upgraded Lithium and the generator. The generator is an option you don't have to get.
The thing about the molle boards, there are tons of things out there that will connect to it, but you can also Velcro strap, bungee and zip tie things to it, like your helmets, bike pumps, power cords, hoses, etc..
True. We'll give it a try before we rip it out...
I like it. Wish you would have mentioned price.
163,600 starting price
Pricing starts at $162k
Winnebago claims about $165,000.
Wow in that price range it competes with The Unity, which seems better.
MERCEDES ARE SO EXPENSIVE..4X4 VS ALLWHEEL? LOVE EKKO..BETTER STORAGE TOO! OFF GRID AND SOLAR!NICE REVIEW KIDS!👍HOW MUCH KIDS?
Winnebago's website lists the EKKO at MSRP $163k :)
Really was interested until I saw the $165K price quote. Not anyway even near that in value.
Just watched the Winnebago announcement, this is certainly going to be a "Game Changer" that people talk about. I am sure it is going to be a great seller.
We're first in line!
I find it interesting that it seats 4 but sleeps 2.
Love this rv very much, it’s the best I have ever seen so far
Hey that looks almost European 😀 😀 apart from the weight..
European like 30 years ago :-)
Just watched the Winnebago Ekko reveal. Very excited for you guys! It’s a cool rig.
Sorry, can't get overly excited Ekko. Nice - yes, but way over priced which Winnebago has a habit of doing. Very few others to compete with due to lack of transition to the new Ford Transit chassis that has enhanced capabilities to proir generation, but equally as nice on the same Transit chassis, Winnebago succeeded in making Leisure Travel Vans appear inexpensive. With the STARTING MSRP at $163662 for the Ekko, the rear twin bed floorplan of the LTV Wonder may start at $125710, adding EVERY option, including AWD, 400w solar with lithium upgrade and generator upgrade, plus some options like macerator not available on Ekko, increases the final build price to $147721. The chunky "hardy" utility box design vs the smoother rounding/streamlining is more marketing than functional.
I agree...I own the 2021 LTV Wonder and its far superior in my opinion..same size back bike storage BUT with a lg slide out for the bikes
LTVs have a lengthy wait, and are selling for MSRP. Check your dealer for EKKO pricing.
Adding a sliding tray for the bikes is very simple. We'll be doing that.
This is MY next RV, too! I overlooked the obvious pre-production gaffs, such as the covering ripples on the inside of some compartment doors, less-than-usual-Winnebago wiring in the battery compartment, etc --the only thing I'd modify, as a solo RV'er, is to place a queen-sized bed crossways in the back in place of the twins. Maybe it will be a future option. Or I'll do it myself...
I don't think that's planned (most people don't totally dig having to climb over their partner to get out of bed), but it would be easy enough to do yourself.
@@Thefitrv actually this rig does at least has the option for the crosswise/sideways queen. full size queen too, not a rv queen. it doesn't block the hanging closets either. they show this on the Winnebago website for the ekko
What kind of MPG you expecting
Thanks That I like to know
I am in the process of looking and this unit looks interesting. Curious why they did not include the Volta System as in the Travato (newer one looks like 12kwh) and just went with basic Lithionic batteries. Also, don't class Cs suffer from water intrusion into the box? That was my main reason for looking at Bs and their full, factory metal body. What is the box made from? Is it just plywood cored and insulated aluminum skin?
I actually liked the changes in the new Travato GL, but the Dodge chassis without AWD or 4x4 gives me some pause - still researching reliability.
Best of luck!!!
Gerry
It needs a convection oven.....
Looks like a really nice coach. Certainly, the garage is going to fit your lifestyle perfectly. I wouldn't get too jazzed up about the 31-gallon fuel tank as your range is likely going to be the same or less than your Travato for 2 reasons 1) Ford EB engines are notoriously thirsty and 2) This coach is likely heavier than the Travato as well as the dual rear wheels so I would expect somewhere around 10MPG at 60mph. It's going to be a nice upgrade from what you have though. Good luck and enjoy every moment with it.
I'm not making any assumptions about mileage just yet. But I do know that a 31 gallon fuel tank will get you further than a 25!
$169,000. Seriously?? Ya no thanks!
Y'all are a delightful couple, great video super detailed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
MSRP Starting at $163k ....no thanks....I wouldn’t touch it for half that price
Half that price? Really? Cone on. Every Class B van out there now has an MSRP of over $82k and they are FAR LESS CAPABLE than this rig.
I would for half 😉
Speaking of vans, and slamming the sliding cargo door in a campground with neighbors nearby at night; most (if not all) of the new vans can be optioned with electronic sliding doors, which are very quiet. Not sure, but I think that is now a standard feature on the Revel.
I do not think the electric sliding door on the Revel is available starting in the 2021 model.