Just because one struggles at a specific climb it doesnt make it harder than it is graded. Everyone has a style and anti-style, strengths and weaknesses. Just bevause you climb at a X grade, doesnt mean youre entitled to doing every climb graded X. 8c+ is still absolute elite level of bouldering that takes double digit amount of sessions for the best climbers out there.
@@ksof1this. So many people say that alphane should be downgraded just because there have been many repeats, however most people agree it’s harder than 8c+. I’m sure there would be more repeats of Teranova if, and let’s be honest, the boulder was easier to access and was more inspiring. There’s a lot more nuance to grading than just “who has done it.”
@mrmonsterhunter808 I think it's beyond that many people have done it, Shawn did say he thought of giving it 8C+, and Will has said in some interviews he thought Alphane might be more Hard 8C+. So lots of doubt has been expressed about the grade. Nonetheless Alphane is a cool impressive ascent. Time will tell what the grade ends up at, plenty of 8C+,8B/+ have been downgraded. As more 9A come along it will be more clear.😊
A second ascent, which is expected with almost as much excitement as Will's at BOD. As far as the grade is concerned, we will probably need more ascents. At least we already know what a solid V17 is for Will (…will send🤞)
Thanks for watching! :) it’s actually about 45 degrees but the rock bulges a lot so a lot of the holds aren’t on bits that steep but it feels steep to climb
Hey will please if u do sleepwalker can u keep going and try return. I see so many people do sleepwalker and then waste all the muscle memory by not carryng on with the v17 while the have the v16 wired
@@ksof1 I think that beta is called 'be tall'. I'd be surprised if Zander's downgrade sticks, and even he was saying that it made absolutely zero difference to the 17 start which remains absolutely fucked
@bilbobaggans8398 the problem is that Return is really, really fucking hard. Nate Williams sent the stand fairly quickly and has since spent two entire seasons trying the sit with no luck. Jimmy Webb spent a season on Return, and gave up because it was too hard. According to Drew ruana the sit moves themselves are super hard, and linking the thing is insane. Basically, V17 is fucked hard and most climbers aren't at a high enough level to send it
I wonder if there are some V17's with lots of beta on the internet that could swap grades with Terranova? There has to be something to how much beta exists on the internet that makes a grade more or less hard. Will, so curious of your thoughts on this!
Can't comprehend what's the driving force for Will to revisit the crag for this boulder problem. There are hard climbs that are purely inspiring just to observe. Aesthetics gone down the drain...
Well I was in Arco but as the weather was terrible there and most other places this seemed like a good choice as its dry here! More importantly its actually really fun to try and could quite possibly be the hardest boulder in the world. :)
I reckon the most important thing is how much fun he's having. We get the privilege of watching whatever that happens to be. Personally, I'm grateful, no matter what the rock or background looks like.
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Anybody else secretly hoping that Will upgrades this to 9A?
Just because one struggles at a specific climb it doesnt make it harder than it is graded. Everyone has a style and anti-style, strengths and weaknesses. Just bevause you climb at a X grade, doesnt mean youre entitled to doing every climb graded X. 8c+ is still absolute elite level of bouldering that takes double digit amount of sessions for the best climbers out there.
@@ksof1 Chill... I think you might have misunderstood my comment. I didn't say that Will should upgrade it to 9A.
@@ksof1this. So many people say that alphane should be downgraded just because there have been many repeats, however most people agree it’s harder than 8c+. I’m sure there would be more repeats of Teranova if, and let’s be honest, the boulder was easier to access and was more inspiring. There’s a lot more nuance to grading than just “who has done it.”
Adams a sandbagger
@mrmonsterhunter808 I think it's beyond that many people have done it, Shawn did say he thought of giving it 8C+, and Will has said in some interviews he thought Alphane might be more Hard 8C+. So lots of doubt has been expressed about the grade. Nonetheless Alphane is a cool impressive ascent. Time will tell what the grade ends up at, plenty of 8C+,8B/+ have been downgraded. As more 9A come along it will be more clear.😊
Very inspiring to see you climb hard and always keep on a big smile!
Yes, very sympathic. I'm also really enjoying your calm explanations. Great video again
A second ascent, which is expected with almost as much excitement as Will's at BOD. As far as the grade is concerned, we will probably need more ascents. At least we already know what a solid V17 is for Will (…will send🤞)
Oh man, the noise of a dry fire that harsh is like nails down a blackboard and really makes me whince. Not long before Will completes this 🤞👍
Thanks for taking us along on the journey will! how steep is this thing?
Thanks for watching! :) it’s actually about 45 degrees but the rock bulges a lot so a lot of the holds aren’t on bits that steep but it feels steep to climb
love these session videos.
Love the simplicity and candor. Great videos, Will! Keep it up.
Yes, I hope too that he upgrades it in the end 😁
"its still extra moves, but its less. Which is good." Ode to a Boulderer.
Will suddenly 10 years younger without big beard
I would love to see will projecting another V17. Either Megatron or Return of the sleepwalker.
Im planning on trying sleepwalker this winter! If i send ill try megatron next year when the snow melts :)
There is a supposed new beta for sleepwalker that makes the crux easier so it might be downgraded
Hey will please if u do sleepwalker can u keep going and try return. I see so many people do sleepwalker and then waste all the muscle memory by not carryng on with the v17 while the have the v16 wired
@@ksof1 I think that beta is called 'be tall'. I'd be surprised if Zander's downgrade sticks, and even he was saying that it made absolutely zero difference to the 17 start which remains absolutely fucked
@bilbobaggans8398 the problem is that Return is really, really fucking hard. Nate Williams sent the stand fairly quickly and has since spent two entire seasons trying the sit with no luck. Jimmy Webb spent a season on Return, and gave up because it was too hard. According to Drew ruana the sit moves themselves are super hard, and linking the thing is insane. Basically, V17 is fucked hard and most climbers aren't at a high enough level to send it
thanks for the videos hyped for some excalibur
Thanks for watching and a properly made Excalibur video hopefully coming soon :)
Gwan Will! 🔥🔥🔥
I love how "gwan" translates as weak 😂
@@babsds0 good ole Weak Will 😂
Love the quick video update, awesome to see you making progress!
Omg those dry fires 🤢 im whincing just hearing them. Good luck for the send 👍
Looking strong, mate! You didn’t need me to tell you that though!
Sick video! Editing was chefs kiss
So cool to see you out there again on Terranova! Thanks for uploading your session shortly after it happened… almost as good as a livestream 😁
Looks like it will go next session!
Looking good Will!
Crushing it!
I wonder if there are some V17's with lots of beta on the internet that could swap grades with Terranova? There has to be something to how much beta exists on the internet that makes a grade more or less hard. Will, so curious of your thoughts on this!
Oh and great thumbnail 😁
Will how hard do you reckon Terranova is these days? and are you planning on trying Megatron?
nice little climb there bud
Hi William
How on Earth you manage boldering with your specks on? Take care. May God bless you. Matti
Should you wonder who I am, ask your Dad.
Very good holds...
it sounds so nasty when you lose grip on that crimp, how does that feel?
Will . I looked at the video of the his send in 2011 . Your beta looks really different?
Yep! Adam’s beta is really crazy, so I’ve been working out my own for some of the moves :)
what model of pants is this? :)
What he calls a hold i call wall texture
I can’t be the one questioning if this is a V17 Adam sandbagged 😂😂😂
The sound of his fingers coming off tho…😬
C’mon Will!
You boulder like a sport climber. Lots of tries and very little resting.
propper attempts
Can't comprehend what's the driving force for Will to revisit the crag for this boulder problem. There are hard climbs that are purely inspiring just to observe. Aesthetics gone down the drain...
Well I was in Arco but as the weather was terrible there and most other places this seemed like a good choice as its dry here! More importantly its actually really fun to try and could quite possibly be the hardest boulder in the world. :)
@@WilliamBosi Can your share your thoughts on how it compares to BODs and alphane?
I reckon the most important thing is how much fun he's having. We get the privilege of watching whatever that happens to be. Personally, I'm grateful, no matter what the rock or background looks like.
@@themanissam1will hopefully do a live stream this week where I’ll answer questions 😁
@@WilliamBosi Awesome. Looking forward to it. Good luck with terranova
Can AI cut out people saying Come On or Allez in climbing videos?