Universal Basic Income Trial | Good Morning Britain
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2023
- Thirty people could be paid £1,600 a month without any obligation under proposals for the first trial of a universal basic income in England. Researchers are looking to run a two-year pilot programme to see how it would change the lives of the group, with participants drawn from central Jarrow, in north-east England, and East Finchley, in north London. Supporters say schemes can simplify the welfare system and tackle poverty - but critics say it would be extremely costly and divert funding away from public services. So, would the scheme demonstrate that hard work doesn’t pay off?
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I have to admit her saying "tax the rich" while rolling her eyes triggered me. We've had austerity for years and while most ordinary people's living standards have dropped the gap between the rich and poor just gets bigger and bigger. People like her couldn't give a shit about poor people or people who are struggling. No wonder she didn't want to let him finish speaking
We’ve never had austerity. Debt and borrowing has grown higher and higher. Living standards have dropped during the pandemic but overall have grown and inequality is roughly the same as it was in 2010. Poverty has actually fallen. Yes of course she’s rolled her eyes when he said tax the rich, because that isn’t actually telling us how the money will be raised. It’s all a dream.
@@Dave25892 we never had austerity? what are you talking about. Funding was cut for multiple public services. that's austerity. The middle class has shrunk. more people pushed into poverty.
he didn't get a chance to say where the money would come from because she kept interrupting. All the while the rich get richer
@@Dave25892 what you smoking bro? Could do with some of that mind numbing shite. It's consensus at this point that austerity happened and it killed shittons of people. Anyway, here's some actual statistics for your lazy self that can't be arsed to look for them
> 3,100,000 children in working families would be below the official breadline in 2018, a million more than in 2010. About 600,000 children with working parents became poor due to the government's benefit cuts and public sector pay limits, the report by the consultancy Landman Economics stated. The research found that the biggest increase in child poverty among working families would be in the East Midlands, followed by the West Midlands and Northern Ireland
> Between 1998 and 2012 the number of children living in "relative poverty" in the UK had fallen by approximately 800,000 to a total of around 3.5 million. Following the introduction of the Welfare Reform Act 2012 the number of children in "relative poverty" increased, with the total by 2019 around 600,000 higher than it had been in 2012. During those seven years the number of children obtaining food from the food banks of The Trussell Trust more than tripled
> The use of food banks almost doubled between 2013 and 2017. Research by The Trussell Trust found that the use of food banks increased more in areas where Universal Credit was introduced
> The number of people sleeping rough on any one night across England had more than doubled between 2010 and 2016. during 2016 the rate of homelessness increased by 16%. By 2018 the number of families living in bed and breakfast accommodation was almost 50,000, and there were many more "hidden homeless" people living on the floors and sofas of friends and acquaintances. An article in The BMJ regarded this as a "neon sign that something is fundamentally wrong" with how society is being run, noting that "homeless women die on average at 43 and homeless men at 47, compared with 77 for the rest of us"
> In 2017, the Royal Society of Medicine said that government austerity decisions in health and social care were likely to have resulted in 30,000 deaths in England and Wales in 2015. A study published in BMJ Open in 2017 linked austerity to 120,000 extra deaths in England, primarily as a result of a reduction in the number of nurses. Another study put it at 130,000. By 2018 figures from the ONS were showing a fall in life expectancy for those in poorer socioeconomic groups and those living in deprived areas, while average UK life expectancy had stopped improving
@@Dave25892you know the RICH isn't the people working a job, it's the people who own the businesses and the landlords and house flippers. They don't work and grab all the money to a extreme degree. Tax was cut by the Tories, but only towards the rich. Because the tories are rich. Ignoring that a UBI would allow people to have a place of living which lets them work. You then tax them on that and make your money back. We have sold almost all of our nationalised industries and now we have a shit show. China isn't doing poorly, quite the opposite with there incredible infrastructure, they still have super rich people but they have a higher amount of people that are middle class and above than here. That's saying something
@@Dave25892 We quite literally have austerity right now. I am personally unable to work directly as a result of easily treatable mental health problems. However the NHS has received budget cut after budget cut to the point where I have to wait years (I'm up to 4 now) to receive a consultation, living on £600 a month of your tax money in the meantime, and that's not even including the hundreds the NHS has to spend on the avoidable physical health problems I've developed as a result of my easily treatable mental health issues. When I could be working as a programmer earning thousands a month myself. But I can't afford to get seen privately for my issues and the institution that's supposed to help me can't directly because of this austerity you claim doesn't exist. As well as this I personally know 10+ people in the exact situation I find myself in. So lets hope I or another one of my friends dont end up killing themselves prior to getting healthy, thus eliminating any possible value that could have gone back into the economy from your tax money.
The tragedy is there will be millions of people - probably a majority who would benefit from this quite sensible reform - who will side with Michelle Dewberry despite her having no evidence and just repeating insults. Tragic - but people get what they want.
The person who continually talks over the other person and never allows the person to answer their questions is the one who has no logical argument to rebut the person they are asking the questions. It’s so transparent it’s embarrassing.
The " ubi" advocate doesn't have a case. How do you fund? The ubi advocate simply wants to steal money from the wealthy and give to the lazy. Yeah he's deluded
It's people like her that stops progress, always blocking never trying to help out bad situations in life.
@lsukglobalmusicentertainme8262 it's more like people like her with common sense
A UBI would significantly raise taxes and ultimately lower the standard of living
She has common sense and STATED facts! He knows he is WRONG….so he tries to block her for talking!!
@@dougking5703 where is your evidence? "common sense" is not a valid argument and you have not understood what is being discussed.
The presenters on this show are just horrendous. Imagine not wanting to just help people out. All I hear them say is "paying people to sit on their asses and do nothing" without taking a single person's circumstances into account
Its simple. Make big business pay the tax they owe, do not involve children on the UBI, replace traditional welfare benefits with UBI. The average welfare claim was around £20k per annum anyway so it wont affect them negatively and itll boost those who are providing to society.
I'm currently on ESA and know people on Universal Credit, outside of London. Including rent it's around £10000 pa. I'd love to meet someone on benefit who gets double that and find out how they managed that. Benefits are not as generous as you seem to think, most of us have to watch every penny. If the government was more efficient and caught those fraudsters with several identities, all claiming, they would find they had more money which no doubt they'd use for our dinghy diving guests because they rarely, if ever, put their own first.
Once on benefits it's not easy to get off, willing to work but in receipt (at that time) of child benefit I had an opportunity to start a business but because of receiving child tax credits the minute I started I had to give up all benefits. Those who were on the course with me who had no children would be allowed to trade for 6 months while keeping their benefits, at the end of that they could either continue trading or give up and remain in the system. So for £80 per month the government ensured that all single parents remained in the system. Thanks Ian Duncan Smith who at the same time paid more for a breakfast than benefit claimants were paid for a week, almost double for some claimants.
@@susanm8669 I was on benefits for 4 years so I do have some understanding. You need to remember that the £20k average also includes housing benefit, energy payment discounts, council tax discount (if you're a single person) etc. You'd be surprised how much it adds up to. At my last place it was £800 in rent that housing benefit covered entirely plus my £500 from ESA.
Also I wasn't saying you would lose out, you'd be getting £1600 but you wouldn't be able to claim any other benefits, you've admitted yourself you know people who don't get that much so £1600 would be better for them, they just have to sacrifice any benefits they are currently claiming.
Business pay more in taxes which then lead them to pay their employees lower wages...ya great idea..
@@neeleshnunkoo8133 they dont pay any employee higher wages when they have less taxes they just take all the money and put it in their pocket. no matter what you do you wont be able to inrease the wages of regular employees
@@photoluke1499 We dont get another £10000 in energy discounts, council tax credit is less than £500.00. I worked in accounting so I know how to add and what to include. You may get £20000 in London but unless you have your own tribe of kids it's nowhere near that elsewhere. If they introduce the Universal Credit it wiĺ probably be on a sliding scale across the country they've already said the £1600 is just for the trial.
How about letting the man talk? Attacked by both Michelle and Ed he couldn't get a word in sideways. The way they were going at him you'd think that they had achieved way more success than they have.
One of the biggest problems behind the wage issue is how over the last few decades, executive management has been allowed to pay themselves hugely disparate salaries compared to the rest of the staff. It used to be about 10 times the lowest paid employee and now it can be thousands of times that. They are supposedly hired for experience and what they can bring to improve the company and spend a lot of time 'networking' at the expense of those who actually work all day, if the company collapses under their guidance they simply move on to the next target with their golden handshake payout leaving their staff jobless with nothing. How many of these top executives actually do more than a few hours of work a week instead of socialising with their counterparts is anybodies guess. One London Charity in 1998 had a Managing Director on half days at £50000 per year and we rarely saw them, the PA worked through lunch and overtime every day to keep up with the work, answering letters she often had to compile herself- all for £16000. When she wanted to buy a home and was struggling instead of getting an increase she had to get a second job.
The biggest problem with poverty in first world countries is due to allowing this to continue, not reigning the executive level in to a fairer system, overpaying for the talking heads on TV doesnt help either.
Very well said and could not agree more this is indeed what happens and why the rich keep getting richer and the poor poorer we live in a very unfair and unequal society.
OK that's a great point about nothing to do with ubi.
So how is ubi paid for?
@@generaldisarray6147 Who knows, but if they'd let him talk he might have enlightened us. The government can always fund money for their pet projects, maybe if they stopped sending £2 million missiles to Ukraine they could put a dent in the UBI bill.
Exactly! Even if you think if it’s right or wrong what’s the point of having him on
@@generaldisarray6147 By taxing the rich more. I mean, are they REALLY going to use all those millions? Couldn’t they be better used elsewhere?
No surprise that we are here, UBI will be inevitable in my opinion. I think capitalism may have gone too far to the extreme in the UK. The upper and government classes as well as employers have extracted so much wealth generated by the worker class over the last 15 years or so years. A fair day’s work no longer commands a fair day’s pay, and after many years it is any wonder productivity has gone down if you are not paid enough in work to pay for your basic needs (food, energy, housing), spending all your bandwidth worrying about how you are paying your bills next month will not make you productive at your job or take risks to start a business to solve a problem or retrain for a skill this country will need in the future like software development and cybersecurity.
I agree UBI may mean some people will not work if rolled out nationwide, however there are people that are lazy, not ambitious and have bad money management on a council estate all the way up to Downing Street (Boris Johnson taking a loan from a mate 😅). We wouldn’t say don’t pay someone at work whom spends all their money a week after being paid on going out drinking or buying cigarettes. I think the criticism should be at the door of big employers in the public and private sector for not paying employees fairly for the work, instead what most employers do is try to employ people for the least amount that they get away with.
I would encourage people not to take jobs with low quality employers whom purposely decide to be wage lagers rather than wage leaders in their industry.
It's also about the definition of 'work'. Caring for children and parents or ill/infirm relatives and friends is work, volunteering is work, being a local councillor is work, cleaning up a local area is work, taking care of neighbours homes and pets while they are at work or on holiday is work, learning new knowledge and skills is work etc. These are all activities that many more people will have more time to do with UBI.
Silly woman!
Let's all live in a socialist society - or should I say communism. Because this is what this basically is.
No one will own anything and you will only have what the government say you can have.
The issue is governments have been printing money for the last 20 years. It suppresses wages and drives investment into unproductive assets.
ubi is a trap. It will be digital and used to enslave the people. Reject it
This would of been a great idea if they had a trail like this for unpaid carers. How much they struggle day to day.
I had to deliver dialysis for my mother with ZERO COMPENSATION while the dialysis unit made $750,000 for nothing. These are all just fraud and ponzi schemes and getting the herd use to the idea that workers are redundant and will be sent to the knackers soon.
ubi is a trap. a scam. the money will be digital and used to enslave people
Absolutely, even the NHS stuff they could have trailed it on first, too. That would bring a relief to their daily financial struggles.
We already have government money for unpaid carers in the UK. It's called carers allowance.
@@themincingninjapoofsawayli898 yes I know it is, but can you live off that? Do you even know how much us carers get? With that comment I doubt you do!!
Good idea! It would help people to maintain some kind of decent standard of life
Shouldn't people be able to maintain a decent standard of life without the government's help?
@@v3ck1n are you knew around here? or are you some sort of alien trying to understand human life?
ubi is a trap. It will be digital and used to enslave the people. Reject it
@@v3ck1n what world are you living in Jake? Without the governments help corporations would pay us what they pay sweat shop workers in countries where the government doesn't have the same protections for its citizens.
@@v3ck1n why
scientist: "I have a cancer drug what May cure all cancers I'm testing it now"
that woman "how are you going to pay for it your deluded wine wine wine wine "
That is not an accurate comparison.
get a job dole scum
How are we going to pay for it? oh let's turn the country into a communist state because that's what it will be it UBI was in place. You wont be getting £1600 a month and your salary, that will be your salary, there wont be any reason to strive to earn more as there wont be any more...lol and then where's all the money come from to pay you.
Because the next step will be that you don't serve any purpose in society, there is no money to have kids as everything will go up to match the free money, there will be no small businesses, no way to get out of the position you are in, no big houses, or car's. no nice holidays.
@@generaldisarray6147 UBI could save people from poverty and poor poeple die a lot quicker than rich people. So UBI would be saving lives. How is that not a good comparison?
@@5hif7yx86because he’s making the scientist look like he’s giving miracle cure when the guy presenting the UBI is not delusional
The woman who didn’t let him talk is deluded
this is the death knell of a woefully inadequate financial system. If the government hadn't made money worthless, bandaids like this wouldn't be necessary
UBI could replace every other welfare program. Perhaps it would encourage some people to leave the workforce but that's really a good thing considering how many workers are being underpaid and exploited under capitalism. The workers that do remain, especially the essential workers, will have to be treated better and given a larger share of the pie.
good point
I hope that when you got divorced from reality, your settlement was as good as mine!
@@paulclothier2583 We're still happily married thank you.
It will encourage people to start their own businesses and become entrepreneurs. It will also encourage people to go back into education to gain qualifications for jobs that they actually really want to do.
@@jujutrini8412That sounds like a free market under Capitalism
"How will you fund that?" Don't worry as it won't be money coming out of your tax dodging pockets
She’s rude taking over him 😂 who’s she to scrutinise him that’s laughable , yeah you may not see the idea is effective but it’s a idea nonetheless I don’t see an opposing solution , and doubt she would be that quick to snap at MP’s lining pockets
Don't forget she was a winner on the apprentice so she will have had one to one mentoring from Mr Sugar himself who knows more than anyone about avoiding paying tax, that's why she's totally non empathetic to ordinary people's situations
@@George-hs2zm very true the levels of entitlement is horrendous from them they don’t think the poor can breath the same air
Dining on other peoples money. Please explain us how did Amazon earned billions and payed zero tax?
I mean we also have the PFD here in Alaska which was 3k last year. But only once a year, its really nice and takes a weight off a lot of peoples shoulders.
If the opposition wont let them talk, it means the suppressed is correct
I think it's a good idea.. if I earned an extra 1600 a month I would consider starting my own business. I imagine another of people might think like that
They're not earning it though
Hahahahaha REALLY. There are countries who have started the same thing and are bankcrupt BECAUSE the working force makes out 7% of a country where there is a population of 87million of which 47million are receiving stategrants the rich have all left the country GO FIGURE!!!
@@v3ck1n Do you have to labour in order to deserve to exist?
So how is ubi paid for?
@@pw3858 evidence?
What’s deluded is thinking you have the right to attempt to “interview” the person in the same position as you…. 👀
I will take the money stop working and start do my volunteer work .
Felt like I was watching GB news for a minute there!
She keeps asking questions but doesn’t let him answer 🤦🏾♀️
So 30 rich kids are going to get richer? 177 people own everything in the UK - they're gaining countless currency, without lifting a finger. What's different. They were born in to the wealth.
Someboby is afraid of finally getting the tax rate they deserve...
UBI is needed and is coming I can’t wait for this to come.
(((Copeland)))
You'll be waiting for a very, very long, long time, young chap.
@@dm95422 well you say that but labour will win the next election and I think there pretty likely to implement it so maybe next year!
@@dm95422might take 5-10 years but it will come with AI getting more advanced it will have to come. otherwise there will be a massive break down in society with living standards
@@gazzz-yz7xc Did you say massive breakdown ??? It's already happening FFS !!! Homelessness in record numbers. Food banks empty...and governments does not give two f^^ks about it !! Wake up !
Really heartened by all the positive comments for ubi
"what's your evidence for that assertion thought?"
"iTs BaSIc CoMmOn sEnSe!!!11"
I would have liked to listen to what he had to say, instead all I heard was how deluded he was! I would have liked to make my own mind up. I don't think it is deluded from what I was allowed to hear. It makes sense to take away the stigma for people on benefits and making sure people's basic needs are met so that they feel able to work. I should imagine the amount given on basic income would be much less if it was to be rolled out. I look forward to hearing more about the trial.
I've been watching a few debates about UBI and this lady has been the most obnoxious person I've come across.
It's an interesting concept and she has done little to help either side.
The hosts were weak and terrible at chairing a basic discussion.
£1600 is about £400 more than I earn per month as someone who works 20 to 30 hours per week depending on demand. To be fair, even with the recent rise in the 'National Living Wage' (it's a minimum wage - not a living wage), what I earn doesn't go as far as my old wage before prices went crazy so this scheme would make my life a lot easier, possibly making up the short-fall if it went national.
How do you expect to live off of only working 20 hours a week? Oh yeah that's right, the government can pay the rest for you
@@v3ck1n He said 20-30 hours, which is about average I think. We also don't know if this individual has obligations/responsibilities besides work, like childcare.
ubi is a trap. It will be digital and used to enslave the people. Reject it
@@v3ck1nit's hard as hell to find a full time job. Most jobs are part time. And finding two part time jobs with hours that work well together is very difficult too.
@@TurokAgihell as the rich businesses realize they can do zero hour contracts they'll do that more and more to bugger us over
Classic corporate media. 3 to 1 and drown out the 1. Pathetic.
As someone on a ZHC it would be helpful and motivating as I would be able to enjoy my job and not worry about lack of money as I work in childcare where childcare isn't well paid
We have a record number of job vacancies at the moment. Most of them are full time positions. Surely wanting guaranteed full time hours is enough to motivate you to get a full time job?
@@Dave25892 and where's your proof of this? Believe me I'm motivated. I work more than the usual full-time hours
Everyone want's to stop poverty untill it means a rich person has a to pay a few of there millions in tax. Because they "worked" so hard for that money. So much harder than the people on the front line that deserve shit all in a pay rise.
It is too bad that only the guest against UBI monopolized the interview without letting the pro-UBI guest finish answering. Saying that common sense trumps the pilot testing of UBI based on basic accounting is a fallacy.
I love how she gave him a chance to answer her questions...
She really piss, she thinks it gonna come out of her pocket 🤣😂😅
If I was getting £1600 a month, because the job I do is not around anymore but need to re train to do something else I have that money to help me fund and also maybe to support me. This woman and Ed ball and basically the rich don't care about anything but themselves.
If i were to think of an image of a person who would be your picture-perfect stereotypical gas lighter, Michelle Dewberry would be it.
If I got it I would open my own business
Amazon , Elon Musk and Bill Gates, could fund this, by themselves. 3 Human Beings, able to feed and cloth, 66.8 Million people. Now is that fair?
You know that the people interviewing the dude who talking about UBI did not do a single research. They don’t even understand that it’s a pilot
Tories really are unbearable.
DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS, CONSUME PRODUCT, COMMON SENSE SAYS THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS, DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS, THERE IS NO NEED FOR RESEARCH, OUR SYSTEM WORKS FINE, DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS
translating this woman = I'm good so f anybody else
what are we going to do when most of the jobs can be done by robots?
let 90% of the population die off?
or do we start taxing companies what use robots then slowly have a universal income as it ramps up
They were saying that in the 70's and it didn't happen. As some jobs get phased out or replaced with technology, so other markets open. Any workforce has to be adaptable to change, as much as some people do not like it.
@@djh29971 And they didn't have the internet 300 years ago .....Y'all missing the point: with enough A.I. and automation /robots, mega-companies will no longer need employees or customers for their owners to enjoy the high life .
I repeat, they won't need workers or buyers.
They will have an army of cyborgs or straight up skynet battle droids to do their bidding, and only produce products that are required for the company to function & maintain their mansions etc.
@@djh29971 If any job can be automated, then nobody will get new jobs, Mr. Einstein.
A lot of people forget that UBI in many models means getting rid of sick pay, maternity pay, child support and job seekers allowance amongst other paid state benefits, so the amount of tax vs. What goes out is useful to look at, but then you have to look at the savings to that tax bucket, too.
sure, but I had no sick pay, maternity pay, child support or job seeker allowance in 10 years, so what am I losing and what am I gaining?
I think ANYBODY who has worked for over a full year and in line with their usual income should be payed by the state if their job ends and they should be payed up to a total of three months of 80% of their normal wage (Just like Furlough) and if they fail to get work in three months then revert back to normal basic benefit levels of £400 per person plus rent payments.
But who'll do the rubbish jobs after that
"We're running a pilot to see how this system would work and identify any issues with it to see if it's a viable option"
"YOU'RE DELUDED! YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE! THE POOR DESERVE TO STARVE!"
A very balanced debate I'd say (sarcasm)
GWAN MICHELLE !!! 😂
"How" is the main question to fund to cater for All British? The guy couldn't even give a proper answer
Let him talk
Rich people will not support this idea because they feel they r rich... Power only because there r poor people.... If there is no poor people they r nothing... That's y they r against this idea
Would you let him actually speak? The hosts are not doing their job their prejudice to the idea is shining through. She has relevant and important questions. But when you never let your opponent speak👀 Methinks the lady the lady doth protest too much.
It’s just a pilot. Calm down.
Said the people in the Twin Towers...
Universal credit was a pilot scheme in Harrogate Yorkshire in 2019 before rolled out nationally.
Wow Michelle. What a beauty
Silly woman asks a question, and then just shouts 'deluded' over the answer. Very poor 'debate'. Do better.
My prediction is that this will eventually happen as the automation of jobs continue to increase greatly with ai and the job market shrinks, we will reach a point where almost all jobs will be done by ai and robotics in the future. Social unrest would occur and the governments would have to implement something like a basic universal income to keep the population healthy. We might not be alive to see it, but maybe a few generations down the road. It will simply become a necessity.
@@mel4856 retired people seem not to have problems finding things to do
i want to make part of this experiment .
Goverment need to make money first .
Who do they bring people on and not let them speak?
Giving people extra money makes them spend more....every time they spend they are taxed 20%, then the person they passed that money onto will pay 20% on whatever they spend the money on, and so on and so on..... so wouldn't the government get the money back fairly quickly.
Other countries manage it
Dewberry should stay on GB news what an annoying woman!
I want to be a part of this pilot! where do i apply?
This will ruin the economy if rolled out nationwide. Landlords will just increase rents to a minimum of £1600 if they know people get £1600 for free :)
Then the landlords need regulating. What a crazy way to look at it, "if we help people get out of poverty then other people will just scam them out of it so why both?".
Absolute CRAP. People's mental health is being destroyed. It breaks my heart to think I can't help my son the way I should, because what little savings I did manage to put aside has had to go on keeping a roof over our head and food and the means to cook it. While that A**hole Rishi was bragging about having 4 types of bread at home. I can't wait till there is a revolution in this country and this scum including royalty is swept aside.
1. The female guest says that her evidence is: "common sense". (Then she accuses the male guest of being at: "The hight of delusion".)
2. "Common sense" is not evidence.
3. She asked for the answer and then refused to hear it.
there's no dining out it goes on renting buying foods and basics
This has control all over it
Youd say that about anything that helps the poor
@@sunseeker9581 but this isn't to help the poor these people are being asked not to work. Do you know me if not don't write as if you do. Re: youd
A lot of people argue on their feelings not facts
You cant debate with someone who argues with feelings.
Im implementing UBI introductory model when i am a MSP
Daft and unhelpful conversation. MD began by making the fair point that a trillion quid would gobble up the entire UK tax take if it were to be rolled out across the country; then guest started saying it was just a pilot, there were other schemes, she had her facts wrong etc., became a pointless shouting match.
Funny how the news debate things that they know will happen lol
Sounds like another way to get the taxpayer to subsidise businesses who don't want to pay living wages.
ubi is a trap. It will be digital and used to enslave the people. Reject it
Universal basic income will come into play once artificial intelligence takes over , this is the real reason 😢
🤫 the sheep don’t know
In the form of a CBDC. You just need to have a digital ID, A social credit score and a health passport. The UBI won't be free it will come will a bevvy of T&C's for you to sign putting you at the complete whims of the goverment.
@@harveysymes5192 That's completely against current privacy laws.
How much is lost via corporate tax avoidance?
How much is lost via Tax dodging?
Theres half the funding for it right there
I don’t think she understand the concept of a pilot scheme. This isn’t his model either, pilot programmes are being tried all over the world to model the impact of UBI. The funding on a national scheme requires it’s separate research. Also, a UBI is probably inevitable, and we won’t have much choice as the current model of time for money ceases to be fit for purpose, in an age of AI and robotisation/automation. It makes sense that we do this research now to gain an understanding of the cost/benefits associated with a UBI. Better to have done the research and not use it then not to have done it at all, and need it. Although, by the current rate of development and trajectory of technology, I think we’ll need a UBI system by some time in the 2030’s/2040’s.
If the people on the trial are going to get more money than people would get if the scheme was rolled out nationally, then isnt the data they collect worthless?
I don’t think a sample size of 20 is going to prove anything anywsys.
The blond forgets money is made up end off .
i mean not having to worry about making rent would be amazing
I bet if this rolls out nationally, the social credit score will follow, and your amount of the UBI will depend on your score.
Kevin. Grow up man
@HMQ AWW DOES THE TRUTH HURT YOU.
how else will they afford to pay it?? Your regular credit score determines how much you pay in loan and mortgage repayments, if you can get a decent credit card rate etc etc.
@@kevinwake8789 Look at you. Absolutely fuming.
@@hmq9052 how am I fuming???? You don't know what a social credit score does to those in poverty areas.
Go look it up.
@@kevinwake8789 There's no such thing you fool. It's an imagined future.
Got money for war but can't feed the poor
Can't wait for inflation to skyrocket, when you can get 1600£ for nothing
The woman was so rude to the young fella. She looked stoked in old ideas and being just nasty and unpleasant shame on gmtv for having her on this segment.
At this point I would be in favor of scrapping the NHS to fund UBI. Waiting list to get scene on the NHS is a joke. The quality of NHS has dropped in recent years. More of anecdotal thing but based on my experience but I find NHS staff to be extremely rude and patronising...
Outside of scrapping the NHS, roll all of our benefits like UC and JSA into UBI too. Maybe have differing UBI rates based on age and/or based on household occupants.
You can tell which one works along side Sir can’t you! And she ain’t sounding sweet!
COMMUNISM is the only answer folks.
any competitive monetary system will always result in massive inequality regardless of how hard everyone works.
By 2030 THIS MAN Idea for UBI will come to life.
The Digital Dream?
Typical Brexiteer screaming out her feelings and not evidence 🤦
I agree about her but not the Brexiteer part. You just like saying it.
i voted for brexit and support UBI (or NIT which is just a better version of it). it's entirely unrelated.
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@@oxenford539 come on ,you just wanted bendy bananas....
@@whocares264 if they're not bendy then they're not bananas dammit!!
She’s all for creative thinking but not for letting the other person talk,what a waste of an interview I actually wanted to hear what the man had to say
And this is exactly why she couldn't allow him to speak. She fears that he's right.
I’m no expert, but to answer the question “How will you fund it”, possibilities include:
- Increasing taxes on top income brackets *
- Financial transactions tax - very small tax on every electronic transactions - very progressive
- Taxing bad things such as coal, oil, gas - serves to drive up prices of bad things allowing the magic of the market to find better alternatives as well as raising tax revenue
I’m sure people can come up with more.
Michelle Dewberry opens with “I’m all for creative thinking and looking at how we can do things differently so no problems with any of that”. Frankly I don’t believe her.
* Top income tax levels have been continuously and dramatically reduced over many decades. Thus it has been proven much higher income brackets function - pretty sure the rich got by ok in decades past also
That women who kept talking was insufferable
In the future productivity is going to explode companies that automate jobs and use AI have to be taxed to assist the people
How come i wasn't selected for the tria?l 😢😅
why not just add the 1600 to low wage workers ?
OMG Karen, Ask the q and let him answer :) :)
That woman is so rude. Talking over him the whole time and using ignorant arguing. There is no way of knowing how that will work with such a small sample, but it will be interesting to see what the people do with the money and their lives. A real trial has to be done on a large scale over a long period of time, eg for a whole region for a year, to carry out a proper pilot, and a whole country to know if it works. The idea that we have to work in a job to live is a culture that wealthy aristocrats and business owners created to convince other people to work for them, initially through the churches and other cultural 'influencers' and now the media has that role. When social influence alone doesn't work they influence the government to remove people's ability to meet our basic human needs unless we work for someone else eg making food and essential goods too expensive. UBI is a great idea. It means a shift in power so that people can choose whether or not to work for someone else or live on the UBI amount and do something else with our lives. It would mean that employers have to improve their pay and terms and conditions to attract workers and it means workers don't have to worry about losing their jobs through redundancy or being fired. It would mean many more small businesses being created and people with money to spend which would improve local economies. It means people can take time to care for others and to take care of our physical health, and time for enriching interests to improve our mental heath. Socially it would mean people have time to volunteer and become local councillors. It would also mean less crime because people wouldn't need to steal or sell drugs or sex to create an income. It will help the national economy because people will have money to spend. It's win-win, and can easily be funded by fair taxation on high earnings, savings and investments. It would be a big shift in power and a big change in the way things are done, but we would quickly see what's really important to society and it will be better for it.
I think it’s a fantastic idea and I really do hope they can make it work sooner rather than later but tbf It’s all to do with ai and its inevitable that basic income will happen. the reason the panel are so triggered is because it’s them that are the wealthy.
Not a single person was afforded the opportunity to finish their sentence let alone communicating a complex concept like UBI. Not a great show you guys...
A very poorly conducted interview. Let the other side speak, I want to hear his ideas, even if I don't agree with them. Shame on GMB!
@@pw3858 The tax payer doesn't receive free money but gets vital social services and infrastructure from the government for their tax levies. The UBI is essentially an extension of this idea, I e. Redistribution of tax money in a time of increasing inequality. The feasibility of it can be discussed in a more nuanced and mature way than was conducted here.
Can’t listen to them talking over each other. Au revoir.