As an architect who used both sketchup 3dsmax rhino renvit arhicad, it is assumed that the sketchup and cad combination can produce drawings other than modeling only for CG. I think this is because the revit archicad requires more time than the cad to create drawings used in the actual construction site. This is only the idea of a practitioner, and it is a part where thoughts and environments can be different.
@@vinay97579 I don't know about Corona Renderer because I've only used it for testing, but I think Vray is the best in terms of quality. The latest version of Vray also renders faster. I think Lumion specializes in video. I don't think the still cuts are as good as Vray's.
@@vinay97579 1. Vray: best quality, faster than Corona, slower than lumion, the most difficult to learn 2. Corona: best quality, slowest, easier to learn than vray 3. Lumion: not as good as vray or corona in term of quality, the fastest, easiest to learn
well i admire the 3ds max and prefer 3ds max but most of the time companies required a fastest work which can present and done by easily with help of sketch up but 3ds Max really a good option for professional designer , because i'm not good in sketch up and it's plugins that's why i loved to work in 3ds max and used to it
My purpose of learning 3DS Max is to create realistic rendering for marketing and website of our products. I start out in Autodesk Inventor because typically I need to create parts, parts engineering drawings, assemblies, assembly drawings, Bill of materials and all that, then I open the Inventor file in 3DS Max, apply finishes, lightning, background, maybe some extra stuff. So far I'm at importing the Inventor files, that's all I got accomplished, that's why I'm looking for tutorials.
see, it depends on industry. If you are in Interiors making things like Kitchen Wardrobes etc you need to learn Sketchup. if you are in modeling, animation or some complex architectural designs you need 3dsmax. but majority of companies recommending to learn both.
3d max move and rotate tool is worse compared to Sketchup.. When you move, it just slides and drags everywhere so randomly you cant even type a given value. In sketchup, if you stop pressing the mouse scroller to type some fixed value in measurement box while move tool is active..evrything works smoothly.. it will give you spacing and distances you need.. you can even multiply and divide objects with fixed spacing you need.. In max, you need more buttons to accomplish a basic job other cad software can do.. Newer 3ds max has array and spacing tool but it is useless to use for windows with different distances...
I'm 100% agree with you dude, 3Ds is better in modelling and rendering. But it's only better for me now when i have a stable job, a decent PC then i switch from SU to 3Ds. When i was a student, i had no choice but to use Sketchup because of my PC. Imho: nothing is better than other, we just use what suit us for the moment we use it :D
Sketchup is popular because it's free, it's not anything a professional would use. Autodesk and other professional design software is expensive. I remember Sketchup was a free Google tool, maybe it has gotten better but not anything for creating serious engineering or Architectural drawings. It's more like a side hobby software.
Before even rendering or presenting a building, an architect should know how to design it. If I were an architecture student, I would spend my time and money learning a real design software as Revit or Archicad.
I used to do that but it would give me a hard time if the project is big because it's not that well optimized for 3ds max so I switched to the modeling is 3dsmax or revit. But in small project it works yes!
@@karlkallassy coz u have better knowledge in max, Im using sketchup with proxies and can now do large projects without any hiccups . I dont want to see people move away from 3dsmax, if it happens the sketchup will become expensive, so , I love to see peoeple doing max .
@Oro Chi first know the basic tools of 3ds max. wathc the videos in youtube example how to make a cube or sphere with textures.day by day you will notice that your skill is getting better and to know more tools..take a note that focus on creating animation. to be followed by creating 2d perspective.
and so. dear colleagues!...no serious Architect will use any Sketchap in his office. 3ds Max is also not a design program, but possibly a visualization and rendering program...End. Period!... yes, Sketchap can be of some help, but it's not a major design program. and for this purpose - ACad - Architektur, Revit or Archicad are used. BUT!! BUT!! - Sketchap is a great program, I think #1 in the world, for creating various 2/3D plans, such as apartment plan, garage plan, garden plan, (already existing!!) creating architectural ideas, initial plans, etc. plus This is the program and I use it for this purpose. On the other hand, 3ds Max is not a program for any design .... it is a 3d program for programmers and creating various games (e.g.: Witcher), film studios, advertising studios (here it is most used), for architectural visualizations, or simply for lovers and fans of this program (for a lot of money)....who likes to create in 3d Max (or free BLENDER) has unlimited possibilities in 3ds Max. greetings to everyone from Austria. 🙂🙃🙂
maybe you to lazy enough to find free model for 3ds max. 3ds max have more free model/ scene then any other 3d platform . yes I know SketchUp users are most laziest people
I agree in every single word but sketch still have a layout where u draw a 3d house and get sections plans..... Quick and easy un like 3dsmax I wish if 3dsmax find way to connect to autocad like sketch up sections
@@karlkallassy but 3dsmax is perfect for rendering. 👍 hi karl, i want request one tutorial how to use and make bump material in Vray 4 for Sketchup 2020.
@@cuppusekali I don't think it is necessary you just get the bump map from the internet and plug it in the bump section and if it's a normal map change the input to normal (it 's much better) and if you want something specific you can use photoshop to create it in black and white accordingly.
You are not wrong sir. I'm sketchup user and I know it's easy but same time limited or have to learn a lots shity plugins. I'm also thinking to shift on 3ds max 😀 but when it's come to Architectural basic modelling so I think it's very slow bcoz have to create wall by tracing lines or have to use box that's why I don't switch but I will try in future. 😀
Sketchup is good for solid model and fast visualize without render..but not good enough for Render, even if u use Vray engine Render, sketchup need another software like Lumion for a better Render Visualize.. i agree with you..
Are you kidding sketchup vray4,5 are enough powerful to do good rendering even skp+vray can beat lumion but you have to learn on advance level instead of using others preset settings... But It's true skp+vray+lumion can't beat 3ds max+vray, corona in rendering 😎
3DS max to Sketchup is same comparison as comparing Adobe Photoshop to Microsoft Paint. If you are going to 8nvest in yourself and your time, learn 3DS Max, the professional level software that can be used as leverage in your career growth. Imagine going to interviews and bragging about being very good at using Paint 😂
time loss video , note: skp modeling is too easy for arch students and 80% time saving , and skp can sync with lumion, d5, twinmotion teatime / live rendering and animation .
It's a great free open source software, but I don't exactly know how it fits with architecture 3d modeling. I guess it's the same principle but I barely know how to use it... I hear it's good though.
I do not agree, I work in both programs and I really know that in the field of architecture it is better to know Sketchup, you and I can compete in creating things and experiment, you want? ))
Blender is very good and it's free. It can also render with vray. On the long term I think blender can overtake 3dsmax but right now 3dsmax is more professional for architectural work.
3dsMax has more options and is more advanced so it delivers better quality if we're talking on a professional level. But if it's on the beginner level they basically deliver the same.
hi karl how are you I find your channel very attractive. May I ask you for a tutorial on how to make the color material look denser like the bump? I'm always waiting for your new videos
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As an architect who used both sketchup 3dsmax rhino renvit arhicad, it is assumed that the sketchup and cad combination can produce drawings other than modeling only for CG. I think this is because the revit archicad requires more time than the cad to create drawings used in the actual construction site. This is only the idea of a practitioner, and it is a part where thoughts and environments can be different.
Sir which render is fast and high quality
Vray or corona or lumion?
@@vinay97579 I don't know about Corona Renderer because I've only used it for testing, but I think Vray is the best in terms of quality. The latest version of Vray also renders faster. I think Lumion specializes in video. I don't think the still cuts are as good as Vray's.
@@vinay97579
1. Vray: best quality, faster than Corona, slower than lumion, the most difficult to learn
2. Corona: best quality, slowest, easier to learn than vray
3. Lumion: not as good as vray or corona in term of quality, the fastest, easiest to learn
@@honhatquang598 What? Is there a slower, more crash-prone renderer than V-Ray?
Modeling on sketchup and rendering on max using corona or vray
Which gives faster result sir
Vray or corona
well i admire the 3ds max and prefer 3ds max but most of the time companies required a fastest work which can present and done by easily with help of sketch up but 3ds Max really a good option for professional designer , because i'm not good in sketch up and it's plugins that's why i loved to work in 3ds max and used to it
My purpose of learning 3DS Max is to create realistic rendering for marketing and website of our products. I start out in Autodesk Inventor because typically I need to create parts, parts engineering drawings, assemblies, assembly drawings, Bill of materials and all that, then I open the Inventor file in 3DS Max, apply finishes, lightning, background, maybe some extra stuff. So far I'm at importing the Inventor files, that's all I got accomplished, that's why I'm looking for tutorials.
As an architect you need Revit more 3ds Max for modeling. And you can youse 3ds for Rendering.
I totally agree
see, it depends on industry. If you are in Interiors making things like Kitchen Wardrobes etc you need to learn Sketchup. if you are in modeling, animation or some complex architectural designs you need 3dsmax. but majority of companies recommending to learn both.
3d max move and rotate tool is worse compared to Sketchup.. When you move, it just slides and drags everywhere so randomly you cant even type a given value. In sketchup, if you stop pressing the mouse scroller to type some fixed value in measurement box while move tool is active..evrything works smoothly.. it will give you spacing and distances you need.. you can even multiply and divide objects with fixed spacing you need.. In max, you need more buttons to accomplish a basic job other cad software can do.. Newer 3ds max has array and spacing tool but it is useless to use for windows with different distances...
I'm 100% agree with you dude, 3Ds is better in modelling and rendering. But it's only better for me now when i have a stable job, a decent PC then i switch from SU to 3Ds. When i was a student, i had no choice but to use Sketchup because of my PC. Imho: nothing is better than other, we just use what suit us for the moment we use it :D
You're 100% right! I should have mentioned that in the video haha
Sketchup is popular because it's free, it's not anything a professional would use. Autodesk and other professional design software is expensive. I remember Sketchup was a free Google tool, maybe it has gotten better but not anything for creating serious engineering or Architectural drawings. It's more like a side hobby software.
Before even rendering or presenting a building, an architect should know how to design it. If I were an architecture student, I would spend my time and money learning a real design software as Revit or Archicad.
Agreed
i think SketchUp for architecture modeling and rendering in 3ds
I used to do that but it would give me a hard time if the project is big because it's not that well optimized for 3ds max so I switched to the modeling is 3dsmax or revit. But in small project it works yes!
@@karlkallassy coz u have better knowledge in max, Im using sketchup with proxies and can now do large projects without any hiccups . I dont want to see people move away from 3dsmax, if it happens the sketchup will become expensive, so , I love to see peoeple doing max .
100% agree! im a sketchup user but i switch in 3ds max.
@Oro Chi first know the basic tools of 3ds max. wathc the videos in youtube example how to make a cube or sphere with textures.day by day you will notice that your skill is getting better and to know more tools..take a note that focus on creating animation. to be followed by creating 2d perspective.
Any hint on RUclips channel with beginners course for 3dsmax?
and so. dear colleagues!...no serious Architect will use any Sketchap in his office. 3ds Max is also not a design program, but possibly a visualization and rendering program...End. Period!... yes, Sketchap can be of some help, but it's not a major design program. and for this purpose - ACad - Architektur, Revit or Archicad are used. BUT!! BUT!! - Sketchap is a great program, I think #1 in the world, for creating various 2/3D plans, such as apartment plan, garage plan, garden plan, (already existing!!) creating architectural ideas, initial plans, etc. plus This is the program and I use it for this purpose. On the other hand, 3ds Max is not a program for any design .... it is a 3d program for programmers and creating various games (e.g.: Witcher), film studios, advertising studios (here it is most used), for architectural visualizations, or simply for lovers and fans of this program (for a lot of money)....who likes to create in 3d Max (or free BLENDER) has unlimited possibilities in 3ds Max. greetings to everyone from Austria. 🙂🙃🙂
Thank you for the information. Very useful.
In 3ds max one full house design need 2 days but in Sketchup it need half of the day. As compared to fast productivity I prefer Sketchup
90% of your videos are sketchup work and now u make a video "dont lose time with sketchup" wtf
Air Max 90 haha! People keep asking me for sketchup videos so I just make for them! But I had a change of hearts a long time ago!
@@karlkallassy I come here after two years to say that you was right
You live and learn 😂
@@airmax9085 😂😂😂
the problem with 3dsmax, most of the model we have to buy, while skp model is free. BUT, the model not so good as 3ds max, that make me in dilemma.
maybe you to lazy enough to find free model for 3ds max. 3ds max have more free model/ scene then any other 3d platform . yes I know SketchUp users are most laziest people
@@MrStylorock thank you bro. your the best
3ds max is more manual and need more learning effort to master. sketchup is more user friendly
We use Sketchup+Plugins+Enscape~
Can Weng Everything can give decent result but my personal opinion is 3dsMax and Vray
I agree in every single word but sketch still have a layout where u draw a 3d house and get sections plans..... Quick and easy un like 3dsmax
I wish if 3dsmax find way to connect to autocad like sketch up sections
i use minimum specs desktop, so i used sketchup 😂
cupu sekali yeah I should have talked about that also 🤣 I totally forgot 🤣
@@karlkallassy but 3dsmax is perfect for rendering. 👍 hi karl, i want request one tutorial how to use and make bump material in Vray 4 for Sketchup 2020.
@@cuppusekali I don't think it is necessary you just get the bump map from the internet and plug it in the bump section and if it's a normal map change the input to normal (it 's much better) and if you want something specific you can use photoshop to create it in black and white accordingly.
@@karlkallassy thanks karl, i want try it now.
If you want join the discord server, it’s easier I can go live and show you the steps if it doesn’t work with you
You are not wrong sir. I'm sketchup user and I know it's easy but same time limited or have to learn a lots shity plugins. I'm also thinking to shift on 3ds max 😀 but when it's come to Architectural basic modelling so I think it's very slow bcoz have to create wall by tracing lines or have to use box that's why I don't switch but I will try in future. 😀
ahh, You can model in SketchUp and bring them 3ds max for further work and renderings. btw, i am also skp user. Thanks
@@funviral3144 is it better to do exterior in revit and interior in 3ds max
This is what I do. I create the box with exact dimensions in Revit, save it as FBX, import and link it to 3DS Max for decoration and rendering.
and Railclone with 3ds Max is a plus also for say architecture projects
100% agree
May I ask what is your computer hardware Spec for 3ds max interior rendering use?
Sketchup is good for solid model and fast visualize without render..but not good enough for Render, even if u use Vray engine Render, sketchup need another software like Lumion for a better Render Visualize.. i agree with you..
hahahaa what?
Are you kidding sketchup vray4,5 are enough powerful to do good rendering even skp+vray can beat lumion but you have to learn on advance level instead of using others preset settings... But It's true skp+vray+lumion can't beat 3ds max+vray, corona in rendering 😎
3DS max to Sketchup is same comparison as comparing Adobe Photoshop to Microsoft Paint. If you are going to 8nvest in yourself and your time, learn 3DS Max, the professional level software that can be used as leverage in your career growth. Imagine going to interviews and bragging about being very good at using Paint 😂
i want to learn 3ds max but dont know how to start . any recommendation
Cool video!
Nice voice and explained video......thanks sir for such a useful video
time loss video ,
note: skp modeling is too easy for arch students and 80% time saving , and skp can sync with lumion, d5, twinmotion teatime / live rendering and animation .
3ds max also live sync
@@sibtulhassan3330 time is money .
Am using 3dsmax with keyshot as renderer, is that good
3D max waste software...all autodesk products not updating and very complicated time wasting software...don't choose any autodesk products
and i also use blender alongside max.
good bro.
any thoughts on blender?
It's a great free open source software, but I don't exactly know how it fits with architecture 3d modeling. I guess it's the same principle but I barely know how to use it... I hear it's good though.
I do not agree, I work in both programs and I really know that in the field of architecture it is better to know Sketchup, you and I can compete in creating things and experiment, you want? ))
We can arrange that but not at the time being since I'm very busy. I also work both programs.
You are creating a software war🤣
Hahahahahahah
How about blender 3D vs 3Ds max what is better ? I think 3Ds max it's not free right ???
Blender is very good and it's free. It can also render with vray. On the long term I think blender can overtake 3dsmax but right now 3dsmax is more professional for architectural work.
Thanks allot
may its over
Does Rendering in Vray differ in 3Ds max than Sketchup ? or both give same quality
3dsMax has more options and is more advanced so it delivers better quality if we're talking on a professional level. But if it's on the beginner level they basically deliver the same.
@@karlkallassy Thank you I am looking for photorealism and tbh not able to get it via SketchUp and Enscape
@@Argon369 I suggest 3dsMax with Forestpack and Vray but it's costly. There's Blender for free and it can deliver very good results too.
skp is too heavy when it come to project the more you input object the more it lags
DO U TEACH PEOPLE?
I can barely teach myself sir 😁
hi karl how are you I find your channel very attractive. May I ask you for a tutorial on how to make the color material look denser like the bump? I'm always waiting for your new videos
You can add a color correction for the material
@@karlkallassy can you make a video tutorial?
Yeah why not!
@@karlkallassy ok, i am waiting.. thank karl 👍👍
@@cuppusekali after christmas for sure 😛
Imagine having to pay for extensions and external render engine.
imagine having to complete 4X faster than a dedicated 3d modeling software.