131 C.I. Stage 4 Screamin' Eagle Road King Special Harley-Davidson Test Ride
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Stage 4 Screamin' Eagle Stage 4 kit installed on a 2020 Road King Special. Kraus Inverted front forks using Olhins Suspension are a feature as well on this performance bagger Harley-Davidson. Matt Laidlaw goes into detail on the parts installed on this bike. Other features include factory 47 bars, CFR Exhaust, LED lighting, "End Game" foot control collection, etc. Matt takes it for a ride down the 10 Freeway.
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What is this bike over $40,000.
djjmplus3 guys paid that and more 14 years ago for some stupid 300 tire chopper! That you could not ride for 75 miles! These hi powered m8 bikes are cheap!
3XR5 yep with a Wood cam in it! 225hp is here in the near future! Go look at Gardner Racing in Maine and their builds!
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If you want to go fast, don't buy a HOG. Go buy yourself a crotch rocket instead of a cruiser [traditionallly known as standard] motorcycle. Harley guys are hilarious.
Matt you’re the REAL DEAL. You were upfront about buying the 131 kit and the bike still having a governor set @ 111-112 mph. That’s a lot of money to do the same top speed as stock
True. But you get to that top speed much faster
Top speed is over rated, acceleration is best.
If you want high speed get a sport bike of some flavor. I have a 2018 triumph rocket 3 and it is also limited (125 ) but for a big heavy bike that is fast enough for me. I like how the bike gets there in a hurry.
Matt, I just install a 131 Kit on my 2020 Street glide S, It is the first bike in Honolulu to have the SE 131 Kit install on Street glide S. Cycle City Hawaii install the kit. You 100% Correct the horsepower and torque is unbelievable. My twin cam engine motors are no comparison to M8 131 engine. Your video are very informative . I enjoy your channel.
Road King Specials are IMHO the most under appreciated bike in the Harley Line. Agreed on the factory brakes. Those new wheels look sharp. Ride Safe Bro’s 🤙🏼
I have a 2019 Road King Special with the generation one, stage 4 kit. It gets up and moves. It’s taken a little getting used to bopping around town. The throttle is sensitive and there have been moments where I think my wife has been holding on for dear life riding two-up. What it excels at is highway cruising, long days, big miles where it effortlessly runs at high speeds and always feels like it has more to give. It’s an amazing engine. I went from a torque stage 2 on my FXDWG to this and honestly the stage 4, in my opinion, feels comparable to that. My son rides the FXDWG now and we’ve done a little friendly stop light, quarter mile and while he gets off the line a little faster, it’s not by much and the the 117 gets him every time. I know that is really a bit of apples to oranges but my point is, I don’t really feel like you’re giving up too much low-end torque on the generation one stage 4. Certainly what you do gain, as Matt mentioned, is a TON of high-end cruising and passing power. If you have a chance to give one a spin (stage 4 bike, that is) I’d recommend doing it. The sensation and feel are difficult to describe; it’s just immensely powerful. And if you take a passenger, a standard sissy bar is strongly recommended (that’s from my wife). Happy riding and be safe out there.
PS- what was the rise on those handle bars? They look amazing. The stock Road King Special bars are terrible.
Nice thing about the 131” is that because it’s a big motor it pulls down low too.
Great review as always Matt! I've been watching your videos since I bought my first M8 when they first came out (late 2016, wrecked that 17 in 2019) and I always appreciate your in site and honest reviews. I am on my 2nd M8 bike now and this time when I went shopping the 131 had been out for about 6 days so I jumped in and went with a 131 for this SGS and you are right, it is an absolute beast!! I love everything about it except the governor (why so slow too :'( )... I am actually on the 2nd 131 motor in my bike now, the first one blew up in less than 200 miles (not beating on it either, grey case silicone ended up getting through the system and plugging the rear lower oil jet causing a melt down on the rear cylinder). But, thankfully Harley 100% backed everything and with the help of my local dealership I am back up and ripping (127HP and 139FT/LBS)!! I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for insane, seemingly endless (up to 108-110mph) power! The bikes already do ride like a dream, but adding this motor puts a BIGGER permanent smile on your face when you ride it!
LOVE THIS 131 Road King Special BUILD!!! Great job Jim! Both Matt and Jim give great feedback about the build. I will add to it in hopes it gives you more useful information in deciding to upgrade to this kit or not.
I ride a 2017 SGS that started off as a 107. Want to first start off by saying I use all Harley parts to keep my warranty and extended service plan. After purchase of the bike and riding for 10,000 miles, I did a Stage 1 using HD Pro Street Tuner and Smart Auto Tuner, then at 15,000, bumped up to Stage 2 Performance cam. After 30,000 miles, I upgraded to the 128 kit with upgraded oil pump and Screaming Eagle clutch and springs.
After the break-in of 500 miles/2,500 rpms, I finally was able to start getting into the throttle and this is a TORQUE beast!! It is manageable to ride around town in normal riding conditions but once you get into the throttle and the engine hits 3,500 rpms, hold on! Takes off like a rocket. You will get to 100 quick and I would say 0 - 60 a little bit around 3 seconds. The clutch is going to be stouter; Jim compensated for it as Matt describes at 8:55. I went with the Oberon adjustable clutch (and break) levers which work out great and I don't void my warranty/ESP.
I have learned to hold onto the left grip tightly before I throttle on. After I rode for 1,700 miles of all types of riding conditions, I went back to have the data from the Smart Auto Tuner downloaded into the ECM and what a huge difference it made!!! This is a lot of power to respect. Both the 128 (121hp/126trq) and 131 (121hp/131trq) have very close hp/torque numbers that you can’t tell the difference. You want to pass a semi on the highway, no problem. You want to pass a car, no problem. You want to get to 100 quickly, no problem. I did spin the back tire going from 4th to 5th passing a group of cars on a two-lane straight away so I just keep it in one gear when passing.
Keep your distance from any other vehicle/motorcycle in front of you because a twist of the throttle and you will be on them before you know it. I ride in the very back in group riding now because I can keep a further distance. If I lead, I tend to leave the group behind without realizing it. Riding the motorcycle for these distances between factory and upgrades, you will notice you will have to ride the motorcycle different than previously before. Matt and the folks at Laidlaw give straight up honest reviews of these upgrade kits in previous videos, just depends on what you want, riding style and budget. Stage 2 torque or performance cam with HD Pro Street & Smart Auto Tuner is most bang for the buck keeping warranty and ESP. Anything beyond that is more power/torque according to your riding style.
With the 128/131 kit, you are running a lot of torque and thus have to adjust going into different types of corners but coming out and giving it throttle is an absolute blast. Meaning you have to find out what gear and speed to be in before going into a certain type of corner and how to throttle out of it. They say the M8 engine is designed to perform in the upper rpm range so you just have to be willing to ride it there. Don't buy a Stage 2 Performance cam, Stage 4 or Big Bore kit unless you are willing to ride in the upper rpms otherwise you are just wasting your money. The engine is powerful and torqued so to me putting this in a softail frame is probably why Harley isn't offering it. I think you need the extra weight of the touring frame for the engine kit and the ability to cool it. I would look at getting a super sport if you want to go lighter and faster.
There are those who will say “this or that” company makes better “this or that” parts better but I don’t wrench, don’t care too, don't care to spend thousands experimenting, don't care to go above 110 mph, don't care to line-up and the warranty/ESP is important to me. This kit has all the power you need on the road. In my opinion, anything above it needs to be on a track to enjoy it. I don't care to Dyno for numbers because this is just FUN and a BLAST to ride and that's all that matters to me. For those who say why doesn't Harley just include this with a bike coming off the factory line, I would say not many folks need or have the experience for this much power. This way, you have options to buy whatever you want, whatever color, whatever options, whatever accessories and can upgrade the engine if you desire. It costs a bit more but not everyone needs this much power.
Now, if you made it this far, take into consideration the Dyno numbers of the kits. You can get a new Road King, Street/Road Glide standard with a 107 and do the 128 upgrade kit plus keep the 2 year warranty and ESP if purchased. Get it all done at the time of purchase. Very good deal for the budget minded buyer.
This is maybe the most beautiful road king special I’ve ever seen.
Wow. This is one of the best looking bikes I've ever seen; such great taste and execution!!
Seriously sick build. Performs as good as it looks from what you say. Great vid and hats off to Jim for letting us all get to see it on a run.
Can only try to imagine that ride, torque and handling. 👌
I eventually want a sport glide with that 131 in it once my dr bills are caught up after having pancreas issues . But for now my sporty does ok
Hope it clears up 👍
The first ten seconds should be a ring tone! Just awesomeness!!
Man, he went all out on that beast! Love to do that kit on my 114 Heritage! Thanks Matt!
If you don’t live in an emissions state just do an aftermarket camshaft and head pipe. Will make the same power as the 128. Here is a dyno of a 114 and 117 with a camshaft upgrade other than harleys.
imgur.com/gallery/70cFO3c
I ride a Stage 2 Road King Special, but it a'int nothing like that! That is the best sounding Harley I have ever heard. As close to perfect as one can get.
Just my opinion as expensive as new Harley-Davidsons are most of this should come standard there's a lot of good bikes out there
Just my opinion. Don't ride a Harley then
None as good as the new Harleys!
2020 Special
@@rawdawgg_ wrecked 🤣🤣🤣
@@rawdawgg_ true but it is annoying lol
good bikes as in the ones you aren’t riding? Ain’t nothing better than a Harley. Don’t try to justify your lack of one
One Bad Ass Roadking!! Long live the KING!!!
He went all out. Super clean and sleek from front to back. Very well done.
Watching that speedometer climbing in the intro,
BLEW MY MIND.
finally! somebody did a RK up exactly the way I would want it
Nice job! Just purchased the 2021 Road King Special in Deadwood Green yesterday. Would love to see the customer's build spec list on this bike sometime (although you do a good job of identifying all the components verbally very well). Thanks for always producing and providing such high quality and informative videos. We appreciate you here in Northern Colorado, Matt. With respect, Kevin F.
I'm glad you explained that was the camera clipping the audio. I thought there is no way in hell I could ride that thing, but once you got the audio sorted, it sounded fine.
I'm a chrome guy buy this bike is awesome!
Matt, Good thing it’s governed at only 111 mph. From the look of your camera lens, I thought you where going to be separated from the bike hitting all those pot holes. We have the same problem in Chicago Illinois, super high taxes and super bad roads! Actually, It’s a shame that beautiful bike is only governed at 111 mph.... my old 1976 750 Honda topped out at 115 mph 44 years ago! And my current bone stock 80 inch 1993 EVO Lowrider can top 111 mph! It must be very frustrating to spend all that money on that beautiful road king only to achieve a governed 111 mph! To each his own I guess. Thanks for the video’s you produce, very much appreciated.
The owner definitely went all in, haha. He's the man.
Matt - kudos to the editor for the skilled blurring on the speedo for those nice pulls on the section of the 405 that passes through Mexico… 😉😉
like the way the speedometer grays out as the speed gets crazy and those highway bumps now and then and lane splitting - all so gutsy.
I've got the 117 stage 4 kit and I love it just back from a 700 mile round trip to Cornwall in the UK had a ball may upgrade to a 131 next
It’s awesome. Power everywhere. Eats gas though.
This bike is wild I can not believe the power they are getting out of this engine buuut I can not see buying a bike for 20+ thousand than sinking another 15-20 thousand to get to this point.
Its only money, and its his money !! Same could be said with many cars, buy hey, if you cant see the point, stick to your scooter @@
This guy may have spent that much altogether, suspension and whatnot, but... You can do just a motor build Way cheaper than that. Honestly, on a m8 a stage two can get pretty good numbers. Beyond that, handlebars and rear suspension are all you need to change. So $1-2k and a person can be sittin pretty happy.
How long will that 131 last? 🤣
@@mixalis6168 Sorry I expressed my opinion KAREN your probably one of those that dont care and in debt up to you eye balls!
I have a 2019 street glide special, but my favorite bike will always be a road king with ape hangers.
Truth
The minute you fixed the audio was the very minute that I was starting to type a message that the audio is screwed and all I could hear was teenage mutant ninja cartoon crap. LOL Glad you fixed that!
You have a beautiful bike I had a 2017 with the 107 and liked it very much. I think you built the perfect Road King. Congratulations!
100%! Absolutely stunning. Olins were a great choice. Nice job Laidlaw’s. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.
Nice ride, Harley concept is good. I personally voided my warranty 30 days after purchase d it. A long list but now I am not worried about something shattering or. Plastic breaking.
Awesome build!! I have a 2020 Street glide special with a 131.......It is worth EVERY penny.
It’s nice that you waited. You can not look at the 128 build instead of the 114 and no longer have to choose between Stage 3 or 4.
This is it, this is my dream bike I hope on day I could buy this bike and lend my credit card and bike to him and build this exact model
This bike has almost $20k of upgrades. No expense spared. Absolutely sick!!!!
North of 20k brother. Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻👍🏻
HI I LIVE IN QUÉBEC CANADA...AND I WANT TO BUY THE SAME BIKE LIKE THIS WITH YOUR MODS... CAN YOU WRITE THE LIST OF ALL ARTICLES FOR THIS SET UP...PLEASE!!!! Or its possible for you to prepare the same bike and ship at the dealership in my town? SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH I SPEAK FRENCH
Absolutely beautiful motorcycle! I bet she rips no problem!! I did some calculating... woo... hope you're sitting down!
RKS in Vivid Black is $22,999, plus $299 California emissions, plus $435 freight, plus tax, tag, title and dealer fee... 131 Kit is $3495 plus labor, so probably $5k total, Kraus front end kit is $5.9k plus labor, rear end kit is $1k plus labor, floorboards/highway pegs/shifter/brake peg/heated grips/derby cover/mirrors probably add up to $2k, bars were probably $1500-2k installed, pipes were roughly $800 plus install so $1k...
My rough calculation is around $44k all in... Not too bad... cheaper than a CVO!
The seat.... never underestimate the price of a seat lol.
I have to import seats for my Harley's as I live in the UK. I just got a le Pera for my road king and it was like £600 with import fees. Which is like $800. And it's less comfortable.....but looks amazing.
Your bike looks awesome. I'm not a big fan of the fairings so I'm partial to road kings. You built a winner in my book
I had a Road King and loved it . Bought a Street Glide Special and it feels like a much bigger bike even though it is the same frame . I think i am going back to the road king .Will see what they have for 2024 ?
Yes, without the fairing it does seem a bit small and it is about 35-40 lbs lighter.
Damn you for making me headbang to that intro music! My neck is already sore from headbanging at the Chaos & Carnage Tour 😭
I love this bike I got exact same RD-K with 131
Pretty sweet bike. I love those Road King Specials and making it more sporty seems like a great idea.
What a bike. Bars are ver😢good? The screen and handlebar set up is excellent. In ‘23 the paint job I like is the denim black.
I just like the idea that a Harley dealer is tested products and bikes!
Definitely a sharp bike! He’s rite about the Brembos it’s totally solid! The front fender bro WOW it makes the bike! Nice finished all around 👊 beast 👊
MATT
You hit every dang question I had! I was always torn between that stage 3 and 4. Front end torque vs top end Hp. Plus the governor question.
Thanks a bunch! Awesome vid. Still hardcore Legends fan myself. Had them all. Nothing beats Legend IMHO. Thanks again. Be safe!
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Jezuz, I thought the road surfaces were bad here in Edmonton Canada! Lovely bike!!! Love that 131
I love this bike! I know it sounds great with the CFR's!
the talk ends here.😏 H-D forever 🖤
That is a Beautiful bike. You did a great job! Enjoy it, ride safe.
Not sure if the owner is going to ride as fast as Matt did 😁😁
Awesome build though, loving the foot controls and those mirrors as well.
I am waiting for my granite 131 kit to ship , can’t wait for the install yes I am getting excited
Man that's one wild ride.
Nothing witty to say here. Just loving the he build. Thanks for sharing
Yo Matt ......hope you and the Laidlaw family is good.....been awhile.....love the bike.......Matt got me into buying a bike years ago from watching your awesome videos .....keep up the good work.....stay safe from FL....
Just about perfect! I love the build. If I was following that vision, I'd probably opt for the Stage III here in the Boston, MA area. Nice job Jim and great review as always Matt. Keep up the great work brother
Well, I just remembered this kit is only for M8 Touring, which I do not currently have hahah. No Stage III necessary on this new baby
yup touring M8 only. Thanks for watching and your comment as always. Enjoy your ride
That note is ballistic!!! Holy shit man, props on that build it’s the sickest I’ve seen that sexy doing it!!!
Wished you still did videos like this
I get why bikes are set up a certain way to allow for a blank slate for personalized customization. I think why i loved Victory, aside from a solid performance engine that rarely saw the light of garage save for maintenance, is that they gave you customized bikes that all you had to do was get loud pipes and a fuel tuner.
If Harley could do bikes like this road king and made a line of limited edition, i could be a customer for sure. Like the way you did the beach cruisers. More of that for a better price and you can definitely get my attention.
I feel like the cops theme song should be playing in the background. That’s one bad bike. Love the customer build videos.
Matt you can't hide your speed,man.I can tell you was up in the 110 limits.
I’d love to see this bike or any RK with the T bar set up.
The Endgame boards and foot controls are so dope
Have you seen the RK Shadetree has on loan from Bert's Barracuda?
best king and/or Harley i have ever seen
I like your style we have lot in common on what we like. An when you say your smiling while talking my friend it was very apparent you were i mean you were enjoying yourself an that's what its all about good luck not that you need it. Have great life Barry
Beautiful!! If I can make a suggestion, the Koso HD05 Speedo would be a nice addition to this build. Thanks for sharing!!!
I don't see what people like about this speedo. I think it looks like it was designed by a 5-year old.
Ordered my kit today Matt , I feel like a kid at Christmas
My Christmas wishlist
Cool Road King! Jim did an awesome job putting that together. Once upon a time I dreamed of doing something similar to a denim Limited. Ride safe!
thanks for explaining that you do not need a stage 3 version, because the extra cubes make up the torque.
Beautiful bike. Love that Harley Davidson sound.
Matt you blurred out the the speedo at the end, but not the beginning, at least we know how well that engine works!
Sometimes the speedo fogs up
Matt Laidlaw such a nuisance 🤣
Sooo it also comes with a "blacked out" speedometer!? Sick sound and performance!!!!
This is the Darth Vader build to your stormtrooper build! Would be cool to see them side by side.
HAHA yup
Fuckin right!
@@MattLaidlaw
BTW, are you still crying those big snowflake tears over Indian Motorcycle Company (IMC)? Lmao.
Facts on facts !
@@Sig721Tau Indian literally has only 3 good bikes, the scout, the ftr, and the challenger. And harley is coming out with 2 new liquid cooled 145hp bikes, so shut up.
😍 thank You I think I found my next bike preferably in blue and white
I don’t comment on RUclips videosI couldn’t help myself here though, beautiful ride congrats! Love the bike
What is the budget for these upgrades? Absolutely stunning
I'm stage 2 torque cam and couldn't be happier
That is a bad ass RKS, I mean I’ve never seen anything like that! Nice review Matt!
Thank you!
OMG, 131 C.I what a beast and a beautiful bike 👌👍, thanks Matt top video.
I know this build goes back a while. I have a RKS and am thinking about doing something similar. Besides the mentioned clutch upgrade were there any other transmission or drivetrain upgrades done or can stock components handle all that extra go?
Hey Matt please open an HD dealership in NYC :) We need a guy like you! Awesome job bro
How long would it take a US HD tech to change pads and discs on a 2018 fat Bob Matt ???? I’d like a comparison to what they think in the uk . Thanks Rich.
Bad ass bike bro thank u for this from cali 🙏
Black gloss badges would be sick.....Maybe a 5-6”logo only...just a thought
Hey Matt ,
Where did get that shirt/jacket that you're wearing on the test ride !??
Thanks Brotherman 😎🤘🌴☀️
I feel like my roadliner is keeping up with this all day
Excelent with the öhlins and the inverted front end what a nice bike.One thing only why the "big" indicators ?
The only Negative I see is That the MoCo doesn’t offer a buyback or have a trade in policy for the un-needed 107/114. i don’t really Need a piece of HD kinematic sculpture as end table.
Stunning bikes! You got a great crew there too!
Muy bueno, Laidlawwww.....😎
Riding a customized '19 Special midnight blue...
Seems like a lot of vibration, as it shows in the beginning as you see the windshield really shake. I don't get that on my 2000 Heritage Classic.
Matt - love the videos but can I ask what might be a dumb question. I have had several H-D (Fat Bob, Fat Boy etc) from new and always follow the break in rules from the start. My current 3 month old Fat Boy is just getting a stage 3 upgrade which is essentially a new engine. If the break in period is so essential how come within minutes of the build completion its up on the dyno being red lined. Then I see guys (dealers and ordinary guys) riding bikes recently upgraded doing the same on the road. I'm not criticising anyone just trying to understand the process. I appreciate its has to be tuned but does this not compromise the break in? Thanks.
There have been builders add an aftermarket cam and tuner and make 150/150. The heads flow good.
Need to upgrade the speedo to a 250 MPH unit. Other than that, it's spot on.
This bike is definitely a dream build. My guy rides like a true socal biker though lol
Gorgeous king. I couldn't work out what the strap was at the front of the seat? Was it part of the seat or something for the audio/visual set up? I have the same windshield but powder coating the chrome fittings. Thanks for a great video
Well done composition of parts and accessories. Sounds great, too. Unfortunately totally illegal engine/exhaust where I live probably because it's too much fun
Those rear shocks need some serious adjusting. Matt's getting launched out of the saddle on the highway. Granted... an L.A. highway, but still. Definitely needs more preload and a firmer rebound setting for that kind of riding.
I have a 2018 RGS 107 Stage 3, with 120 TQ and 115 HP. That's plenty!