Buntaro Pleads with Mariko to Share His Fate - Scene | Shōgun | FX
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- During an emotional tea ceremony, Buntaro makes a desperate plea to Mariko to give themselves true freedom. FX’s Shōgun is all new Tuesdays. Stream on Hulu.
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“It was only for you.”
HI. do you know the title and composer of this song? 1:00
@@paciuzzI’m looking for the same
Hi guys. Any news about this song? 0:58
The song is called The Scent of the Plums Detached from the Branch. Its in the official soundtrack volume 2 composed by Atticus Ross, Leopold Ross and Nick Chuba
When she said “I struggle to remember clearly”! That told us all we needed to know!
Ha, it was before that. He said "we were happy" and she blinked once. Which clearly said "You're delusional, mate, haven't you noticed that I keep wanting to stab myself to get away from you?"
I know dude, that was her cue to him to stop himself before he wreck himself.
"Mariko, maybe this wife-beater-style green tea matcha will make you remember"
Tell me that you don't love me without telling me you don't love me. Mariko: I would sooner live a thousend years than die with you like this. EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Buntaro .. " well.. I guess I was wrong on that one..."
That's emotional CRITICAL DAMAGE!
Future generations will only speak in memes
The worst she can say is no
Devastating scene. No warrior could overcome Buntaro -- he even survived certain death. Only to be cut down by Mariko with just a few well chosen words. This show is incredible.
This is one of my very favorite scenes, it’s so powerful. Beautiful, dramatic, painful, overwhelming and yet made within such a calm and peaceful set up and choice of words. I understand Buntaro is one of the best of the best samurai’s, but he wasn’t a good husband, he was cold, harsh, aggressive, she was never happy with him, her words “I struggle to remember clearly” just tell us everything about their relationship.
But after this, I think Buntaro reflects on himself and even made peace with Anjin. He became a stronger person than he had ever been, thanks to his late wife.
After he had to kill his dad in the same episode and told to live and know denial, that dude looked like he needed a hug.
Hats off to Shin'nosuke Abe (and to his makeup crew) for bringing these parts of Buntaro to life.
japanese doesnt hugt they are weird
He didn't kill his dad. Seppuku, if you read the actual accounts, is extremely painful. The second who hacks the head off is there to give relief to the pain.
“you will now know what it is to be denied” heavy 😲
"Mariko, how do you like my wife-beater-style green tea matcha?"
This was sincerely, a stunningly beautiful scene. The tea ceremony was performed so precisely. From the flower arrangement to the calligraphy on the wall. Then for Mariko to offer a verbal slash to the jugular. To a warrior who could not put up a defense, for he knew he was wrong. This is his find out moment. They both delivered a powerful performance.
No bloodbath, no physical torture. But it makes a man silently cry with despair and broken.
I feel like you're the person when they say it as a poem, and you come back with your comment.... sugoi/cool.
They cut the part when Buntaro broke down and cried in this clip. I agree with you though, a woman like Mariko sure knows how to break a man without violence.
@@ryumidori000Yeah, she's pretty terrible.
@@vincentdc211 She was married to him against her will and he beats her. How is she terrible?
“Oh no, my wife whom I physically abused and maltreated since the day we married says she would rather live a thousand lives than die with me. Why would she say such a thing?”
Two actors did phenomenal in this scene, especially Shinnosuke Abe
This is one of the most heartbreaking scenes that i've ever seen.
Buntaro's actor is really superb, most of this show's actors are.
No swords, no kills, no violence, but you feel like your heart was crushed watching this.
If you feel bad for Buntaro then you completely misunderstood the way he treated Mariko
@@kingjayburner I felt bad for both.
This scene was brutal with some incredible acting!
When Mariko's words cut deeper than a seppuku, she is like the verbal Shogun
her words could light so many bonfires
A scene that will go down in television history as an all-time classic! Take a bow, writers, actors, directors, producers, costume and set designers!
日本人です。納得です。近年、日本の映画・ドラマで、ここまで、描写・再現するシーンは、残念ですが少ないです。茶道の作法・心得・客人に対する接し方が上手く描かれてると思います。奥が深いです。
I loved this scene. This is superb acting and writing, so much emotion and depth was conveyed with the close up of just facial expressions.
‘And I would sooner live a thousand years…than die with you like this.’
Man 🥶
How could I forgot. The second time Buntaro tries to do the honorable thing, but even an elegant cup of green tea 🍵 cannot repair the years of abuse Mariko has endured. He could have given her a new life years ago, but he did not fill the empty in her heart. So in spite of their current rather dire circumstances, the gap between them is far too wide to bridge.
At least Buntaro learned from this and became a changed man.
Buntaro: We were happy
Mariko: I don't have any recollection
The boys: The worse thing she can say is No
Mariko: I would rather live thousands of lives than die with you
The development for this two characters is really good . Both actors gives strong performances in every scene . I can't wait to watch the final two episodes of the series , is going to be sad and awesome ⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️ .
He obviously did love her but one kind gesture doesn’t make up for years of abuse and denying her the death she wanted. A shame he didn’t have more scenes, he was perfect for that role. The most beautiful scene with him was the interaction between him and Toranaga in episode 3 when Toranaga escapes Osaka. WOW! 👌
I think it's a testament to how men think that it was both yours and mine. We find beauty in loyalty and death where women don't. They would gravitate toward a scene between John and Mariko I believe.
What an incredible insight to Japanese culture. Loved every single detail in this scene. Thank you Shogun team.
This was absolutely BRUTAL! One of the most savage things I have ever heard. She broke that man on all levels...
worse than Lisa Simpson turning down Ralphie on Valentines day
@@greg.peepeefaceI choo choo choooooose you
That man beat her, the only weapon she had to fight back was withholding her love.
@@nunyabusiness3516 He didn't treat her worse than any other husband would at that time. Also it was a public secret she was banging the Anjin. Everyone knew. Just nobody said a thing about it. And she humiliated him. It's not that the beating made her hate him. She hated him for not allowing her ritual suicide. And when she finally got to hear it wasn't actually him but her father through Toranaga she still wouldn't budge her position.
@nunyabusiness3516 It's implied that the abuse was a reaction to years of her cold indifference and disdain towards him. Also her having a rather public affair with a foreigner. Doesn't make it ok to resort to violence, but his anger is not at all unwarranted.
Shinnosuke Abe is soo good. For making us feel empathy to a wife beater.
Wife beater was probably the standard for that time, or even the centuries after that.
Mariko is hardly a defenseless waif. She has used all her cunning and guile for years to make his life a living hell.
This is soo Japanese.
Mariko deserved it, Buntaro is based the dude is clearly an incel and redpilled on the WQ
@@DrCruelMariko never wanted to be with Buntaro at all, she only did it because her father deemed it so. They never really had a choice then.
@@Patti326 Chickens are birds. Does a hen have a choice whether to lay eggs? What if a chicken wants to fly like a falcon?
*Caine:* _"Old man, how is it that you hear these things?"_
*Master Po:* _"Young man, how is it that you do not?"_
Tea Ceremony is always so deep, so ethereal. I've received tea ceremony twice during my time in Japan. Both times, the ladies who performed it were elegant, graceful, wonderful!
That's not Emotional Damage that's Emotion Beyond Repair.
"The worst she can say is 'no' " lololol
😂😅 she said no and some more!
rather live be suicidal and live a thousand years than to say yes😂
He got hit with "I would rather live than die with you". One can never recover from this lmao
Episode 8 was an emotional experience. It was deep on so many levels and the title was poignant. The refusal from Mariko cut Buntaro deep and his fathers call for denial cut him even further. The way of Bushido was carried out in a total act of loyalty to ones lord. This is, without a doubt, one of the best depictions of feudal Japan in an historical context.
Hiromatsu wants to save his son from further anguish, but Lord Toronaga is wiser. This is why Toronaga tolerates the relationship and even acts to aggravate it by introducing the gaijin barbarian. Mariko utterly despises Buntaro, and uses Anjin-san as a tool to torture him mercilessly. This unending misery aids Buntaro in his quest along the bushi-do, by making him eternally furious and longing for death. Thus he becomes a formidable samurai warrior.
So sad the writers decided to kill hiro-matsu instead of a « noname » samurai like in the book.
This tea scene was great, in the book she refuse more because of is duty for her lord (toranaga asked her to go to Osaka.) and it make the scene better. In this show scene she seems mean.
@@jejelerider3278 I think both changes serve to impact the audience deeper than what the original story does, to be honest. You feel empathy for Buntaro in this scene, it gives both characters more depth.
Buntaro: This is all for you (Masterclass Tea Ceremony performance)
Mariko: You think that a cup of tea is going to change my mind! Like, really sir??!
😅
Buntaro trying to use the British method he learnt off of Anjin! “A cup of tea cures all woes” 😂
I like how they only had Buntaro bring up sepoku after asking Mariko if she still had feelings for John to emphasize how jealous Buntaro truly is. That the sepoku offering is not out of love, but out of the fact that he couldn’t live to watch his wife have eves for another man
Ouch that hurts 😭 never thought I'd feel bad for Buntaro. I wish there were more interviews with Shinnosuke, What an amazing scene
"Japanese is a language that doesn't have any L's, but this man Buntaro keeps on taking them" - someone on Reddit
she dealt a blow that cut so deep which no enemy could ever give him
I think why this offended Mariko so deeply is that she likely longed for a happy relationship or her own death for long before blackthorn came into her life. So, to see buntaro only offer her respite as a way to control her probably really drove her mad. He asks first about blackthorn, and upon hearing her silence, he offers death. It was the last control her had over her. She saw it for what it was.
In a show where a man is boiled to death...slowly... This is one the most brutal scenes
Denied fate, denied love, denied death. My guy is going THROUGH it!
Friends: You should ask her out, the worse thing she can say is no.
Her: I would sooner live a thousand years than be your girlfriend.
There are no curse in Japanese, Portuguese, or the tongues of Latin for the amount of Ls this man is taking.
Lmao best commet
Jeeze Fangorn, all of those years and still beyond counting.
The saying "Enough to make a grown man cries" fits perfectly here 😂
To me, this was one of the saddest scenes of the series so far. So much bitterness and hopelessness in their "marriage." I do think Buntaro is culpable for all the abuse he put Mariko through: he is an oddly competent jackass. But I also felt pity for him here.
Yah there’s something so tragic about them. He does love her, but shows it in all the wrong ways, if at all. She resents him for his actions, but deeper than that, she resents the marriage itself and lack of choice. Doomed from the start.
Buntaro is how he is because of Mariko. She never loved him and let him know every day of their marriage by having a stone cold face all the time. She hated him because of her own inability to see why her father made sure she was sparred. He became how he is acts towards now because of having a no love wife constantly ask to be allowed to kill herself but now it’s oh your too stupid to see I just wanted to be rid of you. This episode is the first time I finally feel bad for buntaro and now hate how self centered mariko has been this whole time. Very tragic writing and believe even John deserves better than her.
文太郎の涙は、妻にしてきた態度と行いを悔いてるでは！
@@左近-u8i Japanese has language for apologies: Sumimasen!
@@andrewalvarez4975 Okay Buntaro maybe deserves a little pity, but lets not forget that he did physically abuse her. Meanwhile she had no choice in the marriage and never wanted it to begin with, so I don't see how she's "self-centered" for not being in love with him.
she was brutal. sharper than any sword.
I'm so glad we got a tea ceremony. This show is amazing.
This was like watching a single swordsman being mowed down by a heavy cavalry charge
More like a gd mini gun.
This scene is so tragic because this just sets in how broken and hopeless this marriage is. A possessive and abusive husband whose ego over years kept denying his wife the only desire she ever wanted and a wife who was never interested in her marriage.
I’m kinda glad they took this approach with Buntaro’s character because if he was exactly like his book character, I’d have been advocating for someone to slit his throat every episode.
She is also a adulterer
I think they are made for each other. They both know how to create pain for each other like no one can.
Wow . How well done . Both of them . She is so beautiful. He played it great. I have a 3 day stop over in Tokyo this winter on my way to Bangkok. It will be amazing. 😊
Him crying was actually heartbreaking!
I love that he shows classic abusive husband / domestic violence aspects throughout this show. They characterised him VERY well. Hes not one dimensional, though they could have easily portrayed him that way. I thought they did a great job with his character and i hope it helps other women in DV situations to recognise their situations and take courage to get out.
The acting in this show is so good, both Shinnosuke Abe and Anna Sawai completely disappear into their characters.
Perfect scene
This scene was subtle yet intense.
The link verse poetry Buntaro and Mariko recited to each other, and the music here are soooo good! 🥺💗💗💓
That tea making was asmr 😮
That scene, was probably the most hard for me, mainly because of the way that acting was done in this scene. Big props to the actor that played Buntaro, that was a top-notch acting, even if you hate that character throughout the show, at the end you cant hate him, you feel his pain and the actor made sure that we would feel it as well.
0:06 The kanji (Chinese characters) on the scroll hanging on the wall reads “柳绿花红”, a Chinese expression that translates to "willows are green, flowers are red." This phrase is used to describe the vibrant and colorful scenery of springtime when nature is in full bloom.
The idiom has its roots in classical Chinese poetry from Tang dynasty poet Wei Changban, where it has been used to evoke the splendor of nature and the rejuvenation associated with spring. It reflects the appreciation for the changing seasons and the beauty of the natural world.
Those characters are actually problematic as they are written in Simplified Chinese, which wasn't invented yet.
I would definitely bring Buntaro with the boys to Vegas after that!
Bro survived a whole army for this EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
I was wondering why the tea room looks very familiar. I just realized it looks very much like Sen no Rikyu's Taian in Kyoto.
The scroll on the wall would have been chosen by Buntaro to suit the occasion. It says 柳緑花紅, "the willow is green, the flower is red," which is a quote from the 11th century Chinese poet and intellectual Su Shi. The full quote is 柳緑花紅、真面目, which means more or less "The willow is green, the flower is red, things are they are is the truth," which is a perfect encapsulation of his attempt to be honest with her backfiring as she is just a honest with him. Things as they are, indeed.
best show 2024
Script-writing and cinematography at its finest
On one hand he’s a jerk but on the other hand dang that had to hurt.
Wish they would’ve kept that song/sound from 00:58 for the whole scene…….
my favorite scene of the whole series
Why did they cut the last shot of Buntaro crying? That was THE meme! Even though he was a despicable character, I feel sorry for him. That's how great the script was written and the actor killing it! #awesome
His model is Tadaoki Hosokawa. One of his descendants became Prime Minister of modern Japan.
(Morihiro Hosokawa)
Ancestors, you mean. But nice fun fact!
My god, Mariko, he's already dead. You annihilated that poor man.
這一段“茶道”的部分 看得出真田廣之 推廣日本文化的用心
他展示了日本幕府時代的武士們，不只會打戰殺人，還會茶藝，還會吟詩
用一小間的茶屋展示了日本“茶道”之美學，也展示了武士多才多藝的面向
This scene actually isn’t from Sanada. It’s from the original novel.
@@MorallyDubiousFrogBut he is producer of the show. 😅
Toda Mariko's best quote: "Do not be fooled by our politeness. Our bows, our maze of rituals. Beneath it all we could be a great distance away. Safe. And alone."
Buntaro had many faults no doubt, but not loving Mariko with is whole heart and soul was not one them..He failed to. understand her at the atomic level. The actor who played Buntaro was excellent, I cried to see his pain and confusion.
Does anyone know the name of the music playing in the background. It elevated and intensified the emotional weight of this scene so much, I keep coming back to watch it repeatedly.
The moment i saw her i was hooked on the show
She is stunningly beautiful
I read some fool saying shes pretty but not a good actress
I think she was a marvelous actress
I couldn't have liked her character anymore
So many people missed the entire point of why Mariko denied him his offer of performing seppuku together
It’s the same exact reason Hiromatsu instructed his son to stay alive
It’s because Buntaro is a prized samurai of Torunaga’s clan and his skills in battle will be absolutely critical in the coming fights. To lose him would be a devastating loss to Torunaga’s forces
You missed the point.
@@tomatodo375 did I? Care to enlighten me then?
Because trust me I’m completely up to speed on the varying reasons they resent one another..
Mariko's father was killed by Taiko , She wouldnt just killed herself like that She has a duty to avenge her father and her clan. and She is willing to be used by Toranaga even if it cost her life as long its for the purpose is to destroy Taiko's clan.
I also watched the 1980 version and also apparent in this series Mariko loves John Blackthorne , but she chooses her duty 1st.
a little background and spoiler
in the novel Mariko's death in Osaka caused division in the council and many daimyos switch to Toranaga's side.
and the novel is basically based in this novel a copy paste in fact of Japanese History specifically to the 3 great unifiers.
You’re one of those “many people” as you’ve completely missed the point of why she denied his offer of commuting Seppuku.
You know very well even the Sixth Heavenly King Oda Nobunaga will choose to be burned down in Honoji Temple, rather than getting wreck like this.
詫びる。
茶道の作法では、わびさびの精神があります。小さな茶室にマリコ(客人)を正式に招待する行為は、詫びを入れる行為にもなります。不器用な文太郎は、今までしてきた過ちを悔いて、マリコへの償いと反省を込めて、誠心誠意お茶を作るシーンです。このシーンでの捉え方は人其々かと思います。
そうなんですね！
素晴らしい！
戦国時代は、公家を頂点に武士・凡下 ( 商人・農民・職人 ) の順に身分が分けられてました。妻 (女性・子供 ) に対する接し方も、階層によって異なると思います。特に、武家の家は厳しく、武士にとって家柄が大事で格式を重んじます。当時、戦に敗れた家の末路は悲惨です。家の根絶、又は、辱しめを受けたりと様々です。勿論、西洋の価値観は存在しません。ですが！妻や子供を想う心、愛情が無かった訳ではないです。妻・子供に対する接し方の違いだけ、宗教思想・文化思想・国の成り立ちの違い、何百年も重ねてきた人々の価値観、様々です。ドラマでは、文太郎の侍としての価値観、マリコのキリシタンとしての価値観の違いとの葛藤があるのでは？
"The worst she could say is no"
最近では少なくなった、文太郎の様な日本人、木訥な人、文太郎は、飾り気がなく、口下手で自分の思いを上手く表現できない、不器用だか意思が強く誠実で正直な人間。茶道のシーンが素晴らしい、茶をたてる様、両者が、今の想いを俳句で表現するところは、正しい日本人像を表現してると感じてしまう。
This is a very important aspect that some here in the comments section fail to see. The series is trying to depict the culture that was authentic to that period and it will not seem acceptable for modern (especially Western) society. While Buntaro had a lot of wrongs, he still did his duty to his Lord by staying loyal to him and his wishes.
日本語には、多種多様な表現が有り、西洋欧米人には理解出来ない所も有るかとおもいます。忠義とは、私利私欲を捨て誠をを尽くし主君や国家に仕えること。文太郎は、武骨なところがある反面、内面は心の優しい武士だと思う。
外国人にはやっぱりわからないだろうなぁ
@@コレット-j9bさん
日本語が世界で一番難しい理由は！一つの言葉に多能な意味があり奥深いです。海外の人には理解が出来ない場合がありますよね！
best scene together with Kiku explaining the willow world in ep 6
I felt his love for her. So strongly he wanted to protect her by dying together.💔
No he didn't want to protect her. It was a final attempt to keep her as his, to try and fix the damage but it was too late
マリコの厳しい一言は、死に急ぐ文太郎を守ったかもです。
Love? Lol. Yeah, you can also feel that love on the bruises on her face.
@@soldiers3v3nBullshit. He's the only likeable character with personality, and heart I've seen so far. The rest are self absorbed and cold.
@vincentdc211 I didn't say he had no feeling. Yeah I bet it did hurt to have the consequences of his actions. That's life yet seeing that he would continue in his suffering and eventually she may be his wife but she's not his and he knows it. So why not try to regain his honor and his wife by taking her to death with him. But it wasn't done for her. That's why she wouldn't. I don't fault him for trying tho.
should've been longer, missed the part where he cried
Thats why i choose coffee over tea. All the seppuku and bloodbath fights, this here, is deep brutal.
anyone know the OST while he´s preparing the tea?
shazam isn't picking it up
He was emotionally and verbally abusive to his wife.
And Mariko destroyed him in the most graceful and poetic manner. No crying, nor cursing, nor bitchy lines. Honestly one of the greatest scenes I've witnessed and most empowering ones, especially for abused wives.
Anna Sawai, if they don't give you awards... I'll be damned.
Name of the song? Please
Soundtrack ❤️
Do you knxow the track?
1:41 That tea bowl was not placed within Mariko's reach.
日本人です。茶道の作法です。
Buntaro zoned
高貴な夫婦喧嘩ですね! 品性高く文化的な夫婦喧嘩は恐れ入ります。
I dont love you. I never did
And just like that, a samurai who would brave thousands on the battlefield was savagely cut down by his wife
with all of the violence that this show displays, this was the one scene where I literally said out loud "man that's brutal".
An historical BURN 😈.
5,000 degrees of ice cold female cruelty.
Buntaro: Commit Seppuku with me
Mariko: HELL NAH
そんなに浅いシーンじゃないのになぁ
I feel so bad for Buntaro; give my man a break for God sakes. He's been through a lot.
Love the music for this scene, it’s not in the soundtrack, anyone know where to find it?
Good show
The most vicious act of brutality I've ever witnessed in any work of fiction is just a few words spoken in an utterly tranquil tone during a tea ceremony. Put this in Mortal Kombat as a finisher and call it "zengeance".
Even being targeted and killed by thousands of archers on the battlefield would have hurt him less.
The room just too big compared to the Japanese NHK drama😅
Other else perfectly presented how tea ceremony connected people involved 👍
Medic! We got man down here!
I can imagine that in a future fight he will hack his way through a swarm of enemies screaming "Why didn't you kill me earlier?"
A true samurai to the end..
Can anyone tell me the title of the song in this scene?
1:23
@FXNetworks please tell us the name of this song 0:58