Three things: 1- The parents are the ones who gave consent. As a child you are normally too young to make such decisions, so your legal guardians (in this case, the parents) are the ones where all the blame lies. Nirvana have not done anything legally or morally wrong. 2- We associate such basic human anatomy with such taboo that it's insane. Approximately half of the world looked like that at one point, and half have a penis. We put so much shame to such common and mundane things that we all share. It's ludicrous. 3- If you think that's child pornography ... you have led an extremely sheltered life. That is not child pornography, and it insults those who are actually victims to such a horrific thing. This case should be thrown out the door and he and his parents should seek therapy, because something else is really going wrong here.
Been begging for this band on this channel for a while. Thank u! That kid turned out to be just like he was on the album. Chasing that dollar. The irony. If that cover is co than so is every other piece of art with nude babies.
"It violates his privacy" Damn, so it hasn't changed? Seriously tho, the picture wasn't meant to be shown in a $exual manner and if he wants somebody to be mad at its his parents whom concented for him and the cover.
He's hurting his own business before it even gets off the ground. People will give him a wide birth seeing as he screws people over just for cash payout. Would anyone trust him in the business after all this win or no win?? If he had actually been paid for being on this album cover he would be telling everyone how great he thinks it all is. There's pictures of me in my parents photo albums butt naked and playing out in the garden ect and I couldn't care less who sees them cause I was just a baby anyways. If i became famous I still wouldn't care either.
As per his own words, he got upset that Dave and the others didn't agree to help promote his art show, and decided to sue. He was just trying to use his connection to Nevermind to milk for money. Also. Is he blonde, or did he dye his hair to look more like Kurt?
"Child Pornography" .... is a bit much. His case would be better served if he stuck to the use of his image. Here's a question : is the photographer making royalties or receiving any continuing income from the Album Cover...?
Its literally just art, and aint no way a BABY can give consent like, what? lol. eIf bro wants to sue someone, he should sue his parents instead cuz they the ones that gave consent. It is not Nirvanas fault at ALL
My thoughts on the controversy are; he needs to get over it. Overall, he may be entitled to some change for the use of his image. The rest of it, he needs to get over. What happened to him at the time was his parents responsibility. Maybe the band or the album designer had some blame but he honestly just needs to get over it. It almost seems like a grab for money. Maybe he's entitled to some, idk. Nobody is holding his appearance on the cover of the album against him. Get over it.
How the fuck is he ment to consent to his photo when he probably couldn't even talk and is a child so even if he could only his parents or legal guardian had that right and because they approved it it should be his parents filing a lawsuit not him and he has somewhat garnered experience as a result of this photo and the only reason he would have found out is because his parents told him look I'm almost 23 years old and I can't remember anything from my childhood before the age of 4
It's definitely about the money, your average guy doesn't care to show himself naked these days, if they paid him a trillion dollars for this a long time ago he wouldn't have cared and not even be suing
Naked baby pictures were a common, almost traditional, thing parents used to make and show their friends and neighbors--right up until everyone decided that everyone else is probably a pedophile. The prudishness of the 50's has returned, at least for the far left and the far right.
My first reaction is this guy is just trying to get money. And that offends me. So, has he not made money or been given gifts at ANY time since the first picture was taken? I guarantee he has been paid & paid well for his subsequent photographs. Ultimately, I have to be a little empathetic. Maybe it has caused him problems. But did his parents legally give consent for the photograph on the album cover? We’re they given money from the picture and/or the royalties of the album? Did the band dot all their I’s & cross their T’s regarding every legal aspect of the photograph taken? See, there’s a lot not being said about all that. Which is likely why no one has responded from the companies he is suing. Ultimately, Americans (I am American so can say this) are too uptight about nudity. It seems everything is made into something sexual. Nothing is artistic or educational about nudity in America. That’s sad & ridiculous. Having been a victim of child porn, let me say this just can’t be the same experience for this guy. It is far from it, I am certain! Finally, I want to express an opinion about experiences in life. We can’t change the past. We have no power over what happened when we were kids.You have to find the good things in your past & hold onto that. As for my experience being photographed naked as a toddler, I find that I have greater empathy for victims of all kinds of sexual and other kinds of abuse. That is my positive. What is this guys positive? Where do I begin?! He’s on the cover of an iconic part of rock, rock history & history in general. This is an incredible thing to have been a part of. I truly think I would be grateful. It’s much better than being terrified, plastered in a collage of other vile pics of naked babies for pedos to get their rocks off to & to make money. I mean, seriously!
Such a disgusting act by a creep looking for a quick payday in the slimiest way possible Kurt Cobain would have been heartbroken just for the insinuation
So sad when chasing after big money is more important than respecting great artists. Also sad when all nudity is “pornography” by definition, and “can’t *possibly* be artistic”. Maybe if this guy wants to make big money he should try writing and selling songs as good as Kurt’s…?
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 Shows what you know. John Lydon, Steve Jones and Paul Cook were anti fascist and far from being modern day nazis and Sid may have worn a shirt with a swastika on it but that was for shock value. As Johnny said, "Sid was a moron." Music is subjective so if you don't like the Sex Pistols then congratulations but at least get your facts right.
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 Came back to read some other replies and tbought I'd add that you accused the Sex Pistols of being "neo nazis" and then said "that didn't stand for anything". Well, wouldn't they "stand for something" if they were in fact "neo nazis"? You seem to be the one trying to be "edgy" as well. Thanks for the laugh. I remember being 12. 🤣
I appreciate you doing a video about my favorite band of all time I think the fact Paul McCartney stepped in Kurt Cobain's place for the Nirvana reunion was the ultimate honor feel would have placed him more
He was never asked for a consent cz he never deserved to be on that cover anyway. Who am I to judge… thanks for another great piece of information mate 👍
I think that it can be debated whether Spencer is suing for the "right" reasons however I do think this does raise the questions about consent and child exploitation personally I think he should turn more to his parents as they're the ones that agreed to the terms and consented on his behalf as well as child protection services to see why this was permitted in the first place as that is what would actually help children in similar situations.
Well, there was no intent for CP I'm sure, BUT he has not received any renumeration for his fame that others have profited off. This may be the only way to do it, and I think he is entitled to it.
After all these years, that baby is still chasing after that dollar.
Perfect
A better response isnt possible..perfect!
😂 and that’s about how much he deserves.
If he want to sue people it's his parents.
Three things:
1- The parents are the ones who gave consent. As a child you are normally too young to make such decisions, so your legal guardians (in this case, the parents) are the ones where all the blame lies. Nirvana have not done anything legally or morally wrong.
2- We associate such basic human anatomy with such taboo that it's insane. Approximately half of the world looked like that at one point, and half have a penis. We put so much shame to such common and mundane things that we all share. It's ludicrous.
3- If you think that's child pornography ... you have led an extremely sheltered life. That is not child pornography, and it insults those who are actually victims to such a horrific thing.
This case should be thrown out the door and he and his parents should seek therapy, because something else is really going wrong here.
The baby just wanted that money on the fish hook
The only reason he should complain about this picture is if "it" hasn't grown since the picture was taken.
Pennywise?
I say he promoted it for a long time and all of a sudden just wants to cash in a quick buck
Meritless lawsuit. Kids trying to extend his 15 minutes of fame.
Yeah I forgot this fucking dudes name a while back and just heard abt him in the news, what a NEET
We'll see what the High Court decides.
Been begging for this band on this channel for a while. Thank u!
That kid turned out to be just like he was on the album. Chasing that dollar. The irony. If that cover is co than so is every other piece of art with nude babies.
So True! Spot On
Hopefully, his mom doesn't have to forfeit her house when he has to pay the lawyer's fee and loses.
This might actualy happen..what an idiot
Its clearly for a cash grab plus if he's truly suing for being on the album cover and not for money then he need sue his parents.
I think that you should make a video about 10 interesting facts about the hollyhobs
Life imitates art.
Aha
Baby chasing money
"It violates his privacy"
Damn, so it hasn't changed?
Seriously tho, the picture wasn't meant to be shown in a $exual manner and if he wants somebody to be mad at its his parents whom concented for him and the cover.
He's hurting his own business before it even gets off the ground. People will give him a wide birth seeing as he screws people over just for cash payout. Would anyone trust him in the business after all this win or no win?? If he had actually been paid for being on this album cover he would be telling everyone how great he thinks it all is. There's pictures of me in my parents photo albums butt naked and playing out in the garden ect and I couldn't care less who sees them cause I was just a baby anyways. If i became famous I still wouldn't care either.
As per his own words, he got upset that Dave and the others didn't agree to help promote his art show, and decided to sue. He was just trying to use his connection to Nevermind to milk for money. Also. Is he blonde, or did he dye his hair to look more like Kurt?
"Child Pornography" .... is a bit much. His case would be better served if he stuck to the use of his image. Here's a question : is the photographer making royalties or receiving any continuing income from the Album Cover...?
I'm sorry but if the courts don't throw this out there's literally no justice.
agreed,this seems s*it if u look at it and he should be cool with it,hes on one of the best fucking albums of all time!
Its literally just art, and aint no way a BABY can give consent like, what? lol. eIf bro wants to sue someone, he should sue his parents instead cuz they the ones that gave consent. It is not Nirvanas fault at ALL
due to his adult behavior openly and continuously embracing the image, he does not have much of a case....and his parents gave consent.
I was gonna say something in this post but…nevermind! 😆
He has recreated it multiple times, money grab
Before the pandemic he was regularly at comic conventions signing his nevermind CD or vinyl.
Why don’t you upload man? 😭😭
Now...after 30 years? NOW he sues? He's obviously only after the $$$$.
My thoughts on the controversy are; he needs to get over it. Overall, he may be entitled to some change for the use of his image. The rest of it, he needs to get over. What happened to him at the time was his parents responsibility. Maybe the band or the album designer had some blame but he honestly just needs to get over it. It almost seems like a grab for money. Maybe he's entitled to some, idk. Nobody is holding his appearance on the cover of the album against him. Get over it.
How the fuck is he ment to consent to his photo when he probably couldn't even talk and is a child so even if he could only his parents or legal guardian had that right and because they approved it it should be his parents filing a lawsuit not him and he has somewhat garnered experience as a result of this photo and the only reason he would have found out is because his parents told him look I'm almost 23 years old and I can't remember anything from my childhood before the age of 4
It's definitely about the money, your average guy doesn't care to show himself naked these days, if they paid him a trillion dollars for this a long time ago he wouldn't have cared and not even be suing
Money grab, plain and simple.
Naked baby pictures were a common, almost traditional, thing parents used to make and show their friends and neighbors--right up until everyone decided that everyone else is probably a pedophile. The prudishness of the 50's has returned, at least for the far left and the far right.
I think he will lose or accept a nominal undisclosed amount to go away......
Money grab
Outrageously frivolous and stupid lawsuit. The cover is NOT CP.
My first reaction is this guy is just trying to get money. And that offends me. So, has he not made money or been given gifts at ANY time since the first picture was taken? I guarantee he has been paid & paid well for his subsequent photographs. Ultimately, I have to be a little empathetic. Maybe it has caused him problems. But did his parents legally give consent for the photograph on the album cover? We’re they given money from the picture and/or the royalties of the album? Did the band dot all their I’s & cross their T’s regarding every legal aspect of the photograph taken? See, there’s a lot not being said about all that. Which is likely why no one has responded from the companies he is suing. Ultimately, Americans (I am American so can say this) are too uptight about nudity. It seems everything is made into something sexual. Nothing is artistic or educational about nudity in America. That’s sad & ridiculous. Having been a victim of child porn, let me say this just can’t be the same experience for this guy. It is far from it, I am certain! Finally, I want to express an opinion about experiences in life. We can’t change the past. We have no power over what happened when we were kids.You have to find the good things in your past & hold onto that. As for my experience being photographed naked as a toddler, I find that I have greater empathy for victims of all kinds of sexual and other kinds of abuse. That is my positive. What is this guys positive? Where do I begin?! He’s on the cover of an iconic part of rock, rock history & history in general. This is an incredible thing to have been a part of. I truly think I would be grateful. It’s much better than being terrified, plastered in a collage of other vile pics of naked babies for pedos to get their rocks off to & to make money. I mean, seriously!
Lol the narrator called Kurt "the lead singer of Nirvana". He, obviously, was FAR more than just "the lead singer".
Such a disgusting act by a creep looking for a quick payday in the slimiest way possible Kurt Cobain would have been heartbroken just for the insinuation
So sad when chasing after big money is more important than respecting great artists. Also sad when all nudity is “pornography” by definition, and “can’t *possibly* be artistic”. Maybe if this guy wants to make big money he should try writing and selling songs as good as Kurt’s…?
Basically, a lawyer came to him and said he could make a lot of money. Typical American litigious behaviour.
Sept 2022 nirvana wins dismissal in this lawsuit.
He's a gold-digger. FOAD.
Load of Bollocks ... Literally
And what is the conclusion?
Only in it for the money.
Never mind the bollocks, here's Nirvana!
Sex Pistols suck. They’re just edgy neonazis that don’t stand for anything
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 Shows what you know. John Lydon, Steve Jones and Paul Cook were anti fascist and far from being modern day nazis and Sid may have worn a shirt with a swastika on it but that was for shock value. As Johnny said, "Sid was a moron." Music is subjective so if you don't like the Sex Pistols then congratulations but at least get your facts right.
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 nonsense
@@suryadas6987 Lydon's a Trumpist these days which is at least adjacent to facsism but the Pistols isn't just him and others are probably ok.
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 Came back to read some other replies and tbought I'd add that you accused the Sex Pistols of being "neo nazis" and then said "that didn't stand for anything". Well, wouldn't they "stand for something" if they were in fact "neo nazis"? You seem to be the one trying to be "edgy" as well. Thanks for the laugh. I remember being 12. 🤣
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Back up!
Meh.
I appreciate you doing a video about my favorite band of all time I think the fact Paul McCartney stepped in Kurt Cobain's place for the Nirvana reunion was the ultimate honor feel would have placed him more
He was never asked for a consent cz he never deserved to be on that cover anyway. Who am I to judge… thanks for another great piece of information mate 👍
RUclips had buried your videos for me. Nice to find you back!
I think Houses of the Holy is a bit more controversial
Ello from the Philippines!
When lawyers get on board.
Where’s the now and then John Lennon lost song at?
Epic
I think that it can be debated whether Spencer is suing for the "right" reasons however I do think this does raise the questions about consent and child exploitation personally I think he should turn more to his parents as they're the ones that agreed to the terms and consented on his behalf as well as child protection services to see why this was permitted in the first place as that is what would actually help children in similar situations.
Well, there was no intent for CP I'm sure, BUT he has not received any renumeration for his fame that others have profited off. This may be the only way to do it, and I think he is entitled to it.