Mary Harrington, along with Louise Perry, Helen Joyce, and Kelly-Jay Keen-Minshull, is one of the four horsewomen of British contra feminism. Always excellent listening, any time any of them are interviewed. Sharp. Incisive. Practical. Human.
The most enjoyable interview with Mary Harrington I've listened to. It covered all the dilemmas of my fifty odd years of adulthood, the last 18 years as a caregiver. It's helpful to see it as part of the work of marriage, especially for women, who have a longer life expectancy, not something to grit your teeth through.
This was awesome! I always love hearing from/reading Mary. I especially appreciate your touching on the topic of "assisted dying." I use a wheelchair. MAID is murder.
This was lovely. I happened across this interview after listening to Coleman's interview with Mary Harrington and feeling aligned with her perspective, appreciating the intelligent way of expressing it. But I was even more impressed with this interview. Tammy Peterson has a Feminine silent presence that I admire. Yet when she speaks, a beautiful voice shares worlds of wisdom. I'll certainly be following. Her last paragraph was on target. Many thanks.
As a human, woman, mother and feminist, I find myself often very torn between the two views or thought currents that Mary Harrington postulates as "feminism of care" and "feminism of freedom (or of rights)" and don't really understand why we cannot have a feminism of care and freedom, being as they are both extremely important either to our personhood and to our families and comunal systems. When I became a mother (to two boys, no less), I felt profoundly hurt and heartbroken by the marxist radical feminism I was brought up in because it completely overlooked the challenges, specificities and demands of mothers and of our children and the challenges they posed to the idealized unisex lifestyle of modernity, to emancipation, in short. There was the underlying sense (seldom overtly spoken but always present in the attitudes towards women that were also mothers) that pregnancy, breastfeeding, attending to children and all those feminine (though not necessarily feminist) endeavours were really an embarassement if not an outright betrayal to the cause of feminism, hence to all women. That "repugnance" towards motherhood and maternal feminity was everywhere, including within myself, to the extent that my feelings towards becoming a mother were very much ambivalent - and that was very hard to navigate indeed! I felt like an embarassement, a traitor, an untouchable, almost an outlaw. Completely invisible and unheard. So, for the reactionaries, a single mother was a shame, but for the progressives any mother was a shame (particularly if married). So one is damned if you do and damned if you don't, there's no getting it right, is there? However. However, it is, I think, intelectually dishonest to demonize feminists, ignore the imense benefits the women's movement brought about either to men, women and children, to deny the widespread repression, suppression and oppresion of women and to pretend that those radical positions of second wave feminists just fell out of the sky, like there were no valid motivations for opposing the stuctures of societies as they were. I am Portuguese and my husband is Italian. In my country, up until 1975 (I was born in 1977), women still could not vote, work outside of the home, travel abroad or marry without a male relative's authorization. Female teachers and nurses were not allowed to marry (it would be disgraceful for their husbands to have wives that had to spend that many hours outside the home and could therefore not attend properly to husbands and children). The honour homicide was still comprised in the law, meaning that husbands could murder their wives based in the mere suspect of adultery. In my husband's country, up untill 1978 women could be compulsively commited to a "manicomio" (mad-house) for getting pregnant outside of a marriage or merely for talking back at their fathers, brothers, husbands or really for any kind of non submissive behaviour. So, patriarcal, masculine oppression was (and still is in many parts of the world) an extremely real thing in the world second wave feminists grew up and lived in. They did not need a bias to theorize an opposition to male domination, they only needed to be a traumatized woman living in the 1960's, really. Thank you for the discussion though. I learned some valuable things and for that I am grateful. Yours truly, Gabriela Santos.
Good discussion. Its exhausting to be constantly fighting about roles. God created man and woman. We’re different. We need to accept this to be truly happy. I am totally OK with saying and believing women are the weaker sex. The women’s movement in the 60s ruined women, families and society. The family is the main unit of society! When that falls apart, society falls apart. Congratulations on your book! God bless you both💜
Are you content with a lower status than men? As a woman you should not strive to be any more than a homemaker? I cherish home and family too but I have interests that I want to pursue. Interests that would take me away from being an angel of the hearth. If you accept that as a woman your only role is that of homemaker. I appreciate her argument though. I just cannot accept that there is nothing more to me than the traditional role
@@manaloola2018 for me personally yes. Also I do not believe that being a mother and home maker equals lower status to men simply a different one. We are superior care givers and home makers and men are superior in their ways, building hunting etc. It saddens me greatly that the value of a mother at home is so easily tossed aside and degraded. The gift to society at large of children raised lovingly with a parent in the home is incalculable. I cannot think of many things more honourable than that or high status.
I'm really interested in Mary's framing of the move to working outside the home with the industrial revolution that meant mothers had to choose between full time child work (not economically active) or work with outsourced child care / not becoming a mother in the first place. I wonder if anyone has explored the role of men, because although some men have always worked outside the home before the industrial revolution (and a bigger proportion compared to women who worked outside the home), the majority of men were agricultural labourers and that meant for most of the year working within a few miles of your home, returning for meals, working with your children in the fields when they were old enough. I wonder what impact there has been on children to be raised without so much input from fathers when they went into the factories for 12 hours a day?
Mary is a brilliant academic and also a lovely person. She sent me a really kind email following a general substack offer for her readers to guest post. I’ll always remember that!
As a child reading the story of Mary and Martha in the gospels helped me with the clearing the table dilemma. I knew I was a Mary, so it pleased me to see that Jesus considered learning more important than clearing the table.
Not suggesting your point is all wrong in my opinion but I wonder if it is more than merely learning. I read it as being with Jesus is being in the presence of God. Stop busting yourself and just embrace the moment and "be" and that's where we will find God.
What’s strange is, how the sky can be filled with black clouds and a rainstorm can start with a thunderclap so loud, but no more lightening or thunder afterwards- just rain. Storms have changed after my 60 years on earth.
The pill also saved many women from abortions.when people say have your k child why do the churches and sporting step in to help people. I know personally 2 people thrown out of families for being prevent the men ran away. One in the 19 90s one in the 2000s. It still happens. All the best to all women🎖
Go Tammy and Mary. Please keep banging that drum for giving men back their spaces. From boy scouts (not gate keepers of power, surely?) all the way to The Garrick in London. And then get men out of my spaces - especially women's changing rooms, toilets and sports! Grateful to you both. Heartfelt thanks from the daughter of a father, the sister of a brother, the mother of a son and the wife of another of the good men :)
Yes. Having the vote forced on us by a handful of women, and governing bodies of men, was the worst thing that happened to women. Let us be women, maidens, mothers, and matriarchs, again. Leave men's spaces, including politics, and let us go home!
I normally discuss my ballot with my husband anyway. I've only voted differently a few times on county and state issues, and I've honestly regretted my choices. The one time we were both wrong was voting in favor of reintroducing wolves into Colorado, and I was the one that convinced him. I find that most women think with their personal feelings first before logic (others never even touching logic at all). It can be beneficial when trying to help the underdog, but even so, I've noticed men give more chances and opportunity than women because women are generally vindictive, especially towards those they consider evil or superior/powerful compared to themselves. This is why men favor providing equity and women favor providing equality. You can see this play out in modern politics. Ideally, there's a balance, but there's often a preference towards either equity or equality.
In terms of tenderness, softness and kindness women will always have the edge. As soon as they value these qualities again, their happiness will come back, and with it, men's happiness.
So mad!!!!!!!. My mother came from family of 10 chidren. She washing last when her mother was45. So strangely was my mother in law. The older children had kids same ahead the youngest daughters
No offence to you husband or daughter I love their talks on every level I'm even on the lion diet but I've never sat through a whole interview in one sitting but Tammy's always are so interesting the guests are awesome 👌👏🙏 Mary was very interesting she really has thought a lot about this I look forward to reading her book
WE CAN do something about the real embodied and semiotic social structures: (1) Make them Visible (2) Allow free agents to adopt, change, or not for themselves alone the terms of those that are Identity Structures (3) Teach all of these to be forgiving and accepting, supportive and kind.
The pill has undoubtedly hurt women, and in many ways has brought about a culture wherein life is more difficult for women rather than less. But it doesn't stop there. The pill, and contraception in general is at the root of the demise of the family. In the U.S., 40% of children are born into single parent homes, the vast majority of those single parents are single mothers. We are watching the boys and young men in our lives become increasingly confused, amotivated and miserable. We are at a point in our society where we are even claiming there is no male and female. This shows a fundamental societal problem with the understanding of sexuality, what makes for a healthy society, and what is best for our children. Children have become commodities in many ways. And with our low birthrate, across most of the western world, we are not replacing ourselves. How has this all happened so rapidly over the last 60/70 years? Contraception has become almost universally used in that time, and the resulting 'contraceptive mentality' is ripping our societal foundations apart. As a society, we need to discuss this! It's a tough discussion, but for the future of our society, for the health of families and of male/female interaction, and for the best for our children, this elephant in the room needs to be addressed. ❤
Feminism is history! No one pays any attention to 21st century feminism, except for Conservatives, who blame it for all society's problems, so they can exonerate men.
I find it weird that whenever anyone dares speak negatively about porn, it's always about the victimized adult women. What about the millions upon millions of children (particularly young boys) that porn has been pushed on via the internet for at least the last 15 years? I'm from the first generation that's had instant access to unlimited free porn. The sex workers even go to online places like gaming websites where underage boys congregate so that they can advertise their porn to them. Sorry, i see those sex workers as predators, not victims. If taken seriously, this is the largest child sexual exploitation scandal in history
Yeah. Don't try beating that drum with a feminist, they don't care about, and have active contempt for, boys and men... and yes, even boys. I've tried making that argument before and they will actually get offended that SOMEONE ELSE dares to give a damn about boys.
Agree, when one see sex is the way to earning for living then one not a victim at all. They’re becoming a black hole to suck all the goodness of God in people’s soul. But woe to those who pushed people into this kind of work
Young girls too. Desensitized to some really dark sexual concepts from far too young to understand none of what they watch is real or normal. No wonder they don’t see any harm in their marketing strategy to young gamers. There’s always been one main demographic who drives it with their internet traffic. Let’s not disregard that, even if the practices have swung in a different direction. Far too many sons are introduced to hardcore porn from their fathers, during their custody time. There’s a subject that needs exploring.
@@GraceHarwood88 That is such bullshit. Plenty of sons don’t even have fathers, and it definitely isn’t common for the ones who do to share porn with their fathers. Gross.
@GraceHarwood88 that's why I said children because it's young girls too. But I said particularly young boys because thats who make up the majority or porn consumption, that's just a fact that a much higher % of men watch porn and an even higher % of porn addicts are men. It forms in our friend groups at an early age, in my case as early as 8 years old. By the time I was 13 every one of my friends were regularly watching porn. It's funny to joke about, but we were being sexually exploited. As for father's introducing their kids to porn that's an insanely small % of perverts. I grew up with a single father who had custody of me, absolutely never did he do that. I did have a female basketball coach when I was in middle school who talked to me and my other guy friends about us watching porn. She told us what cum tasted like. She was 35 we were 12.
Why a lot women still be not treat respectful by men, and even by others women. And by this women always stand up and fight for equally between man-woman? Because, the father of Lies wanted to destroy humanity from within oneself, and leading them to denial their Identity, and after all, denied God
@@grannyannie2948 From the moment when old Adam, parent of all humans, listened to the father of Lies, rather than the Father of Truth and Life, then their generation are we humans has gone to a fight against themselves to listen and obey to our God Almighty until the end of time. May The Holy Spirit lead us to Christ 🙏 May Jesus Christ, the Truth, the Light of Life lead us to everlasting Life 🙏
Ang my kindle going a bit strange!!! They had granddaughters same age as daugters. This Wed usual women where. chained to having one child after another , no. Common birth. C.ontrol amongst working class people, until the pill this saved so many shotgun weddings and lifetimes of unhappinss.
1:03 - what are these pure male spaces that were never gatkeeping power, or involved misogyny that women should get out of? Like football clubs? Being football fans? Being a football fan is a public thing, nobody should be excluded based on sex. Golf clubs?
@@awsambdaman that’s a really good example. But I do think mixing the sexes a bit in scouting is fine. I suppose the problem with mixing sexes in spaces isn’t just the mixing it’s that when spaces are mixed the standard changes to the female standard and norms. It would be OK if women joined male spaces, but adhered to their norms instead.
@@umwha as a kid, playing with other boys was one thing and playing the same games with girls was a completely other thing. women can be disruptors of a myriad of processes, whatever they are, going on between men alone. p.s. yeah. i just remembered the only time i fought with my best childhood friend. we were playing football and a girl showed up. he instantly transformed into a moron. we stopped talking for a year.
Whenever I hear the "No sex work because some people violate consent" all I see is "Nobody can be allowed to drive. Drunks and speeders exist." I say if you want no maid, make life worth living for everyone. I say get the government out of the death business. Private sector Futurama telephone booths instead. I often point to the nets outside the Foxconn factory. That could have been prevented with decent working conditions and better pay, but no way that will happen. Gotta milk the plebs for all the oligarchs can get.
Guest speaks very quickly such is difficult for me to keep up. I did not keep up with all the talking. Switching topics; I also noticed her breathing through her nose and it was very distracting. Her message is lost in her rhythm of speaking.
I noticed it. I have autism and I notice all sounds. I have had to discipline myself to gradually tolerate sounds and tune them down where I only pay attention to what is being said. The same is true for intrusive thoughts because I also have OCD. Going to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy has helped me a lot with the noise problem and intrusive thoughts. I used to hate eating out because I heard the chewing and smacking and coughing. It still bothers me but now I can accept it as background noise most of the time. It won’t happen overnight. My progress has been incremental.
This is a very special INFJ women Tammy Love her the most Shes worth listening to cuz thats jordans wife lol Can u imagine how much non sense she has endured lol..in a good way Really Excessive rationalizing with pillows to the face lol....
Not sure why you didn’t call out your lazy father and brother. You didn’t analyse or explain why you saw an injustice and abusive behaviour and did nothing.
They probably didn't whine and call out the "injustice" and "abusive behavior" of the women sitting around while the men mowed the lawn, took out the trash, fixed the cars, replaced the toilet, washed the dog, built the hen house, changed the light bulbs, installed the smoke detector, dealt with the leaky faucets, shoveled the snow, cleaned the gutters, replaced roofing tile, installed the antenna, killed the spiders, etc.
@@nunyabizness3777 Thank you, yes! Exactly this. Choosing to serve your family is noble, builds character, provides meaning and deepens relationships. There is nothing abusive about it.
@@nunyabizness3777 Yes, I sometimes think of what happened on the Titanic. "Women and children first!" And most of the men knowing there weren't enough boats to save them. What an extraordinary testament to male nobility! It wouldn't happen today, not necessarily because men are less noble, but because women would be 'offended' by it. God help us! 💔
I remember Christmas day at my grandparents. After dinner the men would all head for the living room, whilst the women and girls washed millions of dishes (well it seemed that way) I never resented this, as the men did hard physical work. But when my younger brother copied them I saw red. The solution was buying my grandmother tons of disposable plates and cutlery every year.
Mary Harrington, along with Louise Perry, Helen Joyce, and Kelly-Jay Keen-Minshull, is one of the four horsewomen of British contra feminism. Always excellent listening, any time any of them are interviewed. Sharp. Incisive. Practical. Human.
I agree with the sentiment (except Helen Joyce is Irish)!
Thank you for mentioning those others.
The most enjoyable interview with Mary Harrington I've listened to. It covered all the dilemmas of my fifty odd years of adulthood, the last 18 years as a caregiver. It's helpful to see it as part of the work of marriage, especially for women, who have a longer life expectancy, not something to grit your teeth through.
Tammy you're on fire of late. So many great guests. You're giving your husband a run for his money! Keep it up. Loving it.
This was awesome! I always love hearing from/reading Mary. I especially appreciate your touching on the topic of "assisted dying." I use a wheelchair. MAID is murder.
This was lovely. I happened across this interview after listening to Coleman's interview with Mary Harrington and feeling aligned with her perspective, appreciating the intelligent way of expressing it. But I was even more impressed with this interview. Tammy Peterson has a Feminine silent presence that I admire. Yet when she speaks, a beautiful voice shares worlds of wisdom. I'll certainly be following. Her last paragraph was on target. Many thanks.
I love Mary Harrington!
Her insights are gold!
As a human, woman, mother and feminist, I find myself often very torn between the two views or thought currents that Mary Harrington postulates as "feminism of care" and "feminism of freedom (or of rights)" and don't really understand why we cannot have a feminism of care and freedom, being as they are both extremely important either to our personhood and to our families and comunal systems.
When I became a mother (to two boys, no less), I felt profoundly hurt and heartbroken by the marxist radical feminism I was brought up in because it completely overlooked the challenges, specificities and demands of mothers and of our children and the challenges they posed to the idealized unisex lifestyle of modernity, to emancipation, in short. There was the underlying sense (seldom overtly spoken but always present in the attitudes towards women that were also mothers) that pregnancy, breastfeeding, attending to children and all those feminine (though not necessarily feminist) endeavours were really an embarassement if not an outright betrayal to the cause of feminism, hence to all women. That "repugnance" towards motherhood and maternal feminity was everywhere, including within myself, to the extent that my feelings towards becoming a mother were very much ambivalent - and that was very hard to navigate indeed! I felt like an embarassement, a traitor, an untouchable, almost an outlaw. Completely invisible and unheard. So, for the reactionaries, a single mother was a shame, but for the progressives any mother was a shame (particularly if married). So one is damned if you do and damned if you don't, there's no getting it right, is there?
However.
However, it is, I think, intelectually dishonest to demonize feminists, ignore the imense benefits the women's movement brought about either to men, women and children, to deny the widespread repression, suppression and oppresion of women and to pretend that those radical positions of second wave feminists just fell out of the sky, like there were no valid motivations for opposing the stuctures of societies as they were. I am Portuguese and my husband is Italian. In my country, up until 1975 (I was born in 1977), women still could not vote, work outside of the home, travel abroad or marry without a male relative's authorization. Female teachers and nurses were not allowed to marry (it would be disgraceful for their husbands to have wives that had to spend that many hours outside the home and could therefore not attend properly to husbands and children). The honour homicide was still comprised in the law, meaning that husbands could murder their wives based in the mere suspect of adultery. In my husband's country, up untill 1978 women could be compulsively commited to a "manicomio" (mad-house) for getting pregnant outside of a marriage or merely for talking back at their fathers, brothers, husbands or really for any kind of non submissive behaviour.
So, patriarcal, masculine oppression was (and still is in many parts of the world) an extremely real thing in the world second wave feminists grew up and lived in. They did not need a bias to theorize an opposition to male domination, they only needed to be a traumatized woman living in the 1960's, really.
Thank you for the discussion though. I learned some valuable things and for that I am grateful.
Yours truly,
Gabriela Santos.
The dislike of motherhood by feminists is a big problem tbh and plain weird of you think about it.
Good discussion. Its exhausting to be constantly fighting about roles. God created man and woman. We’re different. We need to accept this to be truly happy. I am totally OK with saying and believing women are the weaker sex. The women’s movement in the 60s ruined women, families and society. The family is the main unit of society! When that falls apart, society falls apart. Congratulations on your book! God bless you both💜
Agree 100%
That’s why God only rule in the Eden Garden is “Obedient “ to Him
Physically weaker maybe.
Are you content with a lower status than men? As a woman you should not strive to be any more than a homemaker? I cherish home and family too but I have interests that I want to pursue. Interests that would take me away from being an angel of the hearth. If you accept that as a woman your only role is that of homemaker. I appreciate her argument though. I just cannot accept that there is nothing more to me than the traditional role
@@manaloola2018 for me personally yes. Also I do not believe that being a mother and home maker equals lower status to men simply a different one. We are superior care givers and home makers and men are superior in their ways, building hunting etc. It saddens me greatly that the value of a mother at home is so easily tossed aside and degraded. The gift to society at large of children raised lovingly with a parent in the home is incalculable. I cannot think of many things more honourable than that or high status.
I'm really interested in Mary's framing of the move to working outside the home with the industrial revolution that meant mothers had to choose between full time child work (not economically active) or work with outsourced child care / not becoming a mother in the first place. I wonder if anyone has explored the role of men, because although some men have always worked outside the home before the industrial revolution (and a bigger proportion compared to women who worked outside the home), the majority of men were agricultural labourers and that meant for most of the year working within a few miles of your home, returning for meals, working with your children in the fields when they were old enough. I wonder what impact there has been on children to be raised without so much input from fathers when they went into the factories for 12 hours a day?
Mary is a brilliant academic and also a lovely person. She sent me a really kind email following a general substack offer for her readers to guest post. I’ll always remember that!
Mary is not an academic, which is why she is worth hearing. An independant thinker
Pallavi dawson whats with your name 😅 Christian or hindu or converted to Christianity
Pallavi dawson whats with your name 😅 Christian or hindu or converted to Christianity
Oooooo. A super pleasant surprise to see these two talking!!! When two worlds collide etc.
what a great interview. nice work to the both of you. Thank You!
I love how I feel like I'm getting mentally challenged by the guests on the show! Truly strong feminine figures :) I bought the book!
I am mother of 3 and grandmother of 3 ...mary is articulating in a wonderfull way what ive thought for many years ...wow ❤
WoW great talk you had there! Thanks for that and I wish you both all the best.
The answer to your unresolved dilemma is, there is joy in taking care of those you love.
As a child reading the story of Mary and Martha in the gospels helped me with the clearing the table dilemma. I knew I was a Mary, so it pleased me to see that Jesus considered learning more important than clearing the table.
Not suggesting your point is all wrong in my opinion but I wonder if it is more than merely learning. I read it as being with Jesus is being in the presence of God. Stop busting yourself and just embrace the moment and "be" and that's where we will find God.
What’s strange is, how the sky can be filled with black clouds and a rainstorm can start with a thunderclap so loud, but no more lightening or thunder afterwards- just rain. Storms have changed after my 60 years on earth.
What a great interview! Thank you both!
The pill also saved many women from abortions.when people say have your k child why do the churches and sporting step in to help people. I know personally 2 people thrown out of families for being prevent the men ran away. One in the 19 90s one in the 2000s. It still happens. All the best to all women🎖
Go Tammy and Mary. Please keep banging that drum for giving men back their spaces. From boy scouts (not gate keepers of power, surely?) all the way to The Garrick in London. And then get men out of my spaces - especially women's changing rooms, toilets and sports!
Grateful to you both. Heartfelt thanks from the daughter of a father, the sister of a brother, the mother of a son and the wife of another of the good men :)
My goodness she is a powerful communicator
What a wonderful interview. I loved it. I guess I’ll get the book.
Yes. Having the vote forced on us by a handful of women, and governing bodies of men, was the worst thing that happened to women. Let us be women, maidens, mothers, and matriarchs, again. Leave men's spaces, including politics, and let us go home!
I normally discuss my ballot with my husband anyway. I've only voted differently a few times on county and state issues, and I've honestly regretted my choices. The one time we were both wrong was voting in favor of reintroducing wolves into Colorado, and I was the one that convinced him.
I find that most women think with their personal feelings first before logic (others never even touching logic at all). It can be beneficial when trying to help the underdog, but even so, I've noticed men give more chances and opportunity than women because women are generally vindictive, especially towards those they consider evil or superior/powerful compared to themselves. This is why men favor providing equity and women favor providing equality. You can see this play out in modern politics. Ideally, there's a balance, but there's often a preference towards either equity or equality.
I think Tammy & Jordan should offer the following training…..
How to Find a Spouse
How to Be a Spouse
How To Parent
In terms of tenderness, softness and kindness women will always have the edge. As soon as they value these qualities again, their happiness will come back, and with it, men's happiness.
So mad!!!!!!!. My mother came from family of 10 chidren. She washing last when her mother was45. So strangely was my mother in law. The older children had kids same ahead the youngest daughters
Ive heard alot of women be very suprised at how their feelings change when they have a baby.
Your feelings also change completely when your mother dies...
Love you Tammy!
No offence to you husband or daughter I love their talks on every level I'm even on the lion diet but I've never sat through a whole interview in one sitting but Tammy's always are so interesting the guests are awesome 👌👏🙏 Mary was very interesting she really has thought a lot about this I look forward to reading her book
thanks for having the guts to tell the truth
This is great!
Haha, when my mother used appliances that fuzziness would happen to the TV or the radio as well 😂
great discussion
WE CAN do something about the real embodied and semiotic social structures: (1) Make them Visible (2) Allow free agents to adopt, change, or not for themselves alone the terms of those that are Identity Structures (3) Teach all of these to be forgiving and accepting, supportive and kind.
The pill has undoubtedly hurt women, and in many ways has brought about a culture wherein life is more difficult for women rather than less. But it doesn't stop there. The pill, and contraception in general is at the root of the demise of the family. In the U.S., 40% of children are born into single parent homes, the vast majority of those single parents are single mothers. We are watching the boys and young men in our lives become increasingly confused, amotivated and miserable. We are at a point in our society where we are even claiming there is no male and female. This shows a fundamental societal problem with the understanding of sexuality, what makes for a healthy society, and what is best for our children. Children have become commodities in many ways. And with our low birthrate, across most of the western world, we are not replacing ourselves.
How has this all happened so rapidly over the last 60/70 years? Contraception has become almost universally used in that time, and the resulting 'contraceptive mentality' is ripping our societal foundations apart. As a society, we need to discuss this! It's a tough discussion, but for the future of our society, for the health of families and of male/female interaction, and for the best for our children, this elephant in the room needs to be addressed. ❤
That was beautiful ☺️
Main thing is too many
refuse to admit they
swallow the scam
of the enemy of
their happiness
Great interview! I’m a feminist but nothing about modern mainstream feminism reflects my beliefs or desires
Feminism is history! No one pays any attention to 21st century feminism, except for Conservatives, who blame it for all society's problems, so they can exonerate men.
I find it weird that whenever anyone dares speak negatively about porn, it's always about the victimized adult women. What about the millions upon millions of children (particularly young boys) that porn has been pushed on via the internet for at least the last 15 years? I'm from the first generation that's had instant access to unlimited free porn. The sex workers even go to online places like gaming websites where underage boys congregate so that they can advertise their porn to them. Sorry, i see those sex workers as predators, not victims. If taken seriously, this is the largest child sexual exploitation scandal in history
Yeah. Don't try beating that drum with a feminist, they don't care about, and have active contempt for, boys and men... and yes, even boys. I've tried making that argument before and they will actually get offended that SOMEONE ELSE dares to give a damn about boys.
Agree, when one see sex is the way to earning for living then one not a victim at all. They’re becoming a black hole to suck all the goodness of God in people’s soul. But woe to those who pushed people into this kind of work
Young girls too. Desensitized to some really dark sexual concepts from far too young to understand none of what they watch is real or normal. No wonder they don’t see any harm in their marketing strategy to young gamers.
There’s always been one main demographic who drives it with their internet traffic. Let’s not disregard that, even if the practices have swung in a different direction.
Far too many sons are introduced to hardcore porn from their fathers, during their custody time. There’s a subject that needs exploring.
@@GraceHarwood88 That is such bullshit. Plenty of sons don’t even have fathers, and it definitely isn’t common for the ones who do to share porn with their fathers. Gross.
@GraceHarwood88 that's why I said children because it's young girls too. But I said particularly young boys because thats who make up the majority or porn consumption, that's just a fact that a much higher % of men watch porn and an even higher % of porn addicts are men. It forms in our friend groups at an early age, in my case as early as 8 years old. By the time I was 13 every one of my friends were regularly watching porn. It's funny to joke about, but we were being sexually exploited. As for father's introducing their kids to porn that's an insanely small % of perverts. I grew up with a single father who had custody of me, absolutely never did he do that. I did have a female basketball coach when I was in middle school who talked to me and my other guy friends about us watching porn. She told us what cum tasted like. She was 35 we were 12.
If the topic of feminism can result in a discussion and critique of culture like this, then Viva Feminism. It is coming into its own.
Blessed are those who desire to seek pleasure in God, for they will be filled with joy, pleasure, and find true happiness.
Plenty of people tried it, got no ROI, and went atheist as a result.
Why a lot women still be not treat respectful by men, and even by others women. And by this women always stand up and fight for equally between man-woman? Because, the father of Lies wanted to destroy humanity from within oneself, and leading them to denial their Identity, and after all, denied God
We live in societies where every abomination to God is legal and glorified.
@@grannyannie2948
From the moment when old Adam, parent of all humans, listened to the father of Lies, rather than the Father of Truth and Life, then their generation are we humans has gone to a fight against themselves to listen and obey to our God Almighty until the end of time.
May The Holy Spirit lead us to Christ 🙏 May Jesus Christ, the Truth, the Light of Life lead us to everlasting Life 🙏
@@nhung-huynguyen7839 Amen
Ang my kindle going a bit strange!!! They had granddaughters same age as daugters. This Wed usual women where. chained to having one child after another , no. Common birth. C.ontrol amongst working class people, until the pill this saved so many shotgun weddings and lifetimes of unhappinss.
Have a potential partner take a personality test. Men need their separate spaces back. Another great conversation!
Younger people are having difficulty w socializing and finding relationships ( friendships , non romantic and romantic ones )
Im a fan of Mary's.
1:03 - what are these pure male spaces that were never gatkeeping power, or involved misogyny that women should get out of? Like football clubs? Being football fans? Being a football fan is a public thing, nobody should be excluded based on sex. Golf clubs?
Working men’s clubs?
How about Boy Scouts???
Or all men’s gyms
@@awsambdaman that’s a really good example. But I do think mixing the sexes a bit in scouting is fine. I suppose the problem with mixing sexes in spaces isn’t just the mixing it’s that when spaces are mixed the standard changes to the female standard and norms. It would be OK if women joined male spaces, but adhered to their norms instead.
@@umwha as a kid, playing with other boys was one thing and playing the same games with girls was a completely other thing. women can be disruptors of a myriad of processes, whatever they are, going on between men alone.
p.s. yeah. i just remembered the only time i fought with my best childhood friend. we were playing football and a girl showed up. he instantly transformed into a moron. we stopped talking for a year.
Why is it ok for a political movement to be tought as a field in Uni?
9:51 *floats by waving*
Wonderful conclusion.
I’ve never participated
A lot of the things Marry Harrington speaks about seem obvious, but she acts like she's reinvented the wheel.
Whenever I hear the "No sex work because some people violate consent" all I see is "Nobody can be allowed to drive. Drunks and speeders exist."
I say if you want no maid, make life worth living for everyone. I say get the government out of the death business. Private sector Futurama telephone booths instead. I often point to the nets outside the Foxconn factory. That could have been prevented with decent working conditions and better pay, but no way that will happen. Gotta milk the plebs for all the oligarchs can get.
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Their belated apostasy notwithstanding, both Ms Harrington and Louise Perry would both be called 'drips', if they were men. And rightly.
Jesus is the only emancipation there is. He is the only way.
The funniest part of this is that neither of these birds could be online chirping about hating feminism without feminism! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Am I trippin? I thought she died?
Guest speaks very quickly such is difficult for me to keep up. I did not keep up with all the talking. Switching topics; I also noticed her breathing through her nose and it was very distracting. Her message is lost in her rhythm of speaking.
Slow the video speed down or add subtitles.
She speaks like a strict school mam. Her rhythmic tone forces me to pay attention 😂
I didn't notice her nose breathing until I read your comment, and now I can't not hear it! It's bothering me 😅🙈
I didn't notice her nose breathing until I read your comment, and now I can't not hear it! It's bothering me 😅🙈
Interesting. I'm watching this at 1.5x speed since it takes her so long to unfold the argument.
I noticed it. I have autism and I notice all sounds. I have had to discipline myself to gradually tolerate sounds and tune them down where I only pay attention to what is being said. The same is true for intrusive thoughts because I also have OCD. Going to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy has helped me a lot with the noise problem and intrusive thoughts. I used to hate eating out because I heard the chewing and smacking and coughing. It still bothers me but now I can accept it as background noise most of the time. It won’t happen overnight. My progress has been incremental.
This is a very special INFJ women
Tammy
Love her the most
Shes worth listening to cuz thats jordans wife lol
Can u imagine how much non sense she has endured lol..in a good way
Really
Excessive rationalizing with pillows to the face lol....
ChatGPT AI generated avatars have come so far😂. so stilted and unemotional..Alex, please tell me the weather..
Not sure why you didn’t call out your lazy father and brother. You didn’t analyse or explain why you saw an injustice and abusive behaviour and did nothing.
They probably didn't whine and call out the "injustice" and "abusive behavior" of the women sitting around while the men mowed the lawn, took out the trash, fixed the cars, replaced the toilet, washed the dog, built the hen house, changed the light bulbs, installed the smoke detector, dealt with the leaky faucets, shoveled the snow, cleaned the gutters, replaced roofing tile, installed the antenna, killed the spiders, etc.
@@nunyabizness3777 Thank you, yes! Exactly this. Choosing to serve your family is noble, builds character, provides meaning and deepens relationships. There is nothing abusive about it.
@@nunyabizness3777 Yes, I sometimes think of what happened on the Titanic. "Women and children first!" And most of the men knowing there weren't enough boats to save them. What an extraordinary testament to male nobility! It wouldn't happen today, not necessarily because men are less noble, but because women would be 'offended' by it. God help us! 💔
@@nunyabizness3777Well said.
I remember Christmas day at my grandparents. After dinner the men would all head for the living room, whilst the women and girls washed millions of dishes (well it seemed that way) I never resented this, as the men did hard physical work. But when my younger brother copied them I saw red. The solution was buying my grandmother tons of disposable plates and cutlery every year.
I love the way men are playful and pragmatic together.